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Wednesday, November 25, 2015

The war in Sweden

There are signs that it is already beginning:
A tranquil Swedish village is being torn apart by bitter tensions after the arrival of 20 refugee families. Tärnsjö, 150km north of Stockholm, has become a hotbed of resentment where migrant children as young as five need a police escort to get to school. Residents and newcomers have exchanged insults, thrown rocks and set fire to cars, leaving many on both sides scared to leave the safety of their homes.

In the last few months, with 10,000 asylum seekers arriving a week, the country has reintroduced border controls and the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats has become the second largest party in Sweden, opinion polls show.

Instead Tärnsjö, a relatively small village with a population of 1,200, is a snapshot of those places where bubbling anger has spilled over into violence and arson.Protesters have set fire to 17 immigration centres in the past two months – and the authorities have warned it is only a matter of time before someone is killed in the race-hate arson attacks engulfing this once-peaceful nation.

The problems are said to have begun in September when migrants started throwing stones at locals' cars, and residents retaliated by throwing them back.

The fires were further stoked on social media - and eventually locals, thought to be teenagers, began organising 'events' where a gang would gather to throw stones at the block of flats which has been turned into a makeshift migrant centre.
I've been reading a book on the history of Carthage, which has been surprisingly relevant in this regard. One thing the historical events make very clear is that if a society is not willing to expel or kill the invaders, the invaders will conquer in the end.

We in the West are the softest generation in human history. As a result of the merciless brutality of our forebears, we have enjoyed 60 years of peace, technological advancement, and wealth, and we are now at risk of losing 2,000 years of civilization due to the ideologies that have arisen as a result of that softness.

The humane thing would have been to keep the invaders out and help them in their own lands. Now, thanks to the European multiculturalists and the rich liberal Democrats who are the only ones who support settling Muslim refugees in America it is going to be war, the brutal sort of war that not only slaughters women and children, but targets them.

You can argue about the fairness and the theology of it all you like. History doesn't care. That is exactly what is going to happen. And if you wish to be a martyr for multiculturalism, well and good, but don't think that you will be rewarded in Heaven for it. We live in a fallen and evil world, and events will take their predictable course.

Both Breivik and Lundin-Pettersson should be seen as a warning. I strongly suspect that it is the children of the invaders who will be targeted first by the militant nationalists.

And before you start accusing me of being bloodthirsty or something, let me remind you that I have been WARNING everyone of it for at least ten years specifically because I did NOT want it to happen. It could have been avoided. But now it is too late.

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182 Comments:

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 25, 2015 12:57 PM  

EDITED:

VD, what's really funny about the poll results you linked is thateven a good chunk of the Democrats don't want them. So they aren't *all* insane, just the liberal ones.

Anonymous Wyrd November 25, 2015 1:03 PM  

What's title of the book on Carthage, VD? After completing Durant's The Renaissance, I need a break from him before heading into The Reformation but would like to stick with the subject of history.

Anonymous Alexander, #10 November 25, 2015 1:08 PM  

@2

Even the ones that do want them are not really on board. Sure, the absolute elite who want to rule the United States of Brazil are fully in, but take someone like Scalzi. I guarantee he's in the pro-refugee faction... up until his lily-white Ohio town is selected for enrichment. And he already knows this.

Blogger Sean November 25, 2015 1:10 PM  

Which book are you reading, Vox?

Blogger Markku November 25, 2015 1:12 PM  

Sean, see the "Current Fiction:" and "Current Non-Fiction:" on the right-side margin.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 25, 2015 1:14 PM  

It is Scalzi's fault

Blogger Robert What? November 25, 2015 1:24 PM  

Honestly, I didn't think there were enough young natural born Swedes left to mount a meaningful resistance.

Blogger kmbr November 25, 2015 1:25 PM  

This is a sign of health. It does not surprise me it is coming from the youth and the smaller communes. They have been getting hit the hardest with invaders for years. In fact, you can go months and never see a muslim in Stockholm city center and certainly never in the wealthiest suburbs. Take the trains out on certain lines and get out, you will swear you are in Islamabad or the like.

This blog is A+, btw--just discovered via Red Ice.

Blogger White Devil November 25, 2015 1:26 PM  

Remember, fear mongering is what bigots do. We, who are not afraid, are really the strong ones.
Why are you learning to fight friend? That's violent. Are you planning on hurting people?
Why do you want guns? Are you planning to shoot your wife and children?
Why do you want an army? Armies make wars happen.
Friend? Friend?
Comrade?

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 1:26 PM  

Honestly, I didn't think there were enough young natural born Swedes left to mount a meaningful resistance.

(facepalm)

Look, Americans. There are something like 6 times more Hispanics in the USA than Muslims in Europe. When we were in Rome last summer, the Minnesotans we were with commented that there are more Muslims in Minneapolis than in Rome.

Blogger JartStar November 25, 2015 1:29 PM  

If this does turn into a continental war then perhaps The Great Migrant War is a good name. Or just Migrant War.

Blogger LP999 November 25, 2015 1:30 PM  

Poor Sweden, refugees do not intend upon returning to their respective lands.

It is too late, natives are under enough stress. We are seeing a calculation play out, diversity plus proximity equals chaos.

Blogger Markku November 25, 2015 1:31 PM  

Two interesting pieces of information my parents told me:
-They have been told by credible sources that the current 18-year olds presently in the army are more fanatic about the military than ever since the Winter War. Completely different attitude than when I was in the army, when most people just wanted to get it over with.
-Twelve thousand people have joined the Lutheran Church recently. Nobody knows why (officially). For many, many years the news were only that they have lost so and so many thousands of people. Now, a complete 180 degree turn. And there were never this many people leaving as have now entered.

Now, I'm under no illusion that the Lutheran Church is anything other than a complete sellout. But this tells you something about the social climate.

Anonymous smedley butler November 25, 2015 1:31 PM  

"I've been reading a book on the history of Carthage, which has been surprisingly relevant in this regard. One thing the historical events make very clear is that if a society is not willing to expel or kill the invaders, the invaders will conquer in the end."

Yes, we are Carthage not Rome. We became financial and commercial, whereas Rome was predominantly agricultural. Further, like Carthage we slaughter children en mass.

Anonymous smedley butler November 25, 2015 1:33 PM  

"Residents and newcomers have exchanged insults, thrown rocks and set fire to cars, leaving many on both sides scared to leave the safety of their homes."

Perhaps the refugees should refugee out of Sweden.

Blogger Gaiseric November 25, 2015 1:35 PM  

OT: On a Thanksgiving Day SJW Narrative debunking post, Lowder With Crowder referenced the "feather, not dot" meme. Does he read here, or has that spread beyond?

Blogger pbuxton November 25, 2015 1:36 PM  

http://nypost.com/2015/11/24/austrian-jihadi-bride-beaten-to-death-after-trying-to-escape-isis-friend/

Color me surprised this new life did not work out.

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 1:40 PM  

Does he read here, or has that spread beyond?

No, that's an old one. Also "reservation, not 7-11".

Blogger kmbr November 25, 2015 1:42 PM  

**Honestly, I didn't think there were enough young natural born Swedes left to mount a meaningful resistance.**

Maybe too little, too late but they are having kids. I have spent a lot of time in Sweden and last I was there (2 years ago) there were kids everywhere. Little Swedish kids, not invader kids.

My friend told me the trend is to have 4 kids. She lives in a planned community called Hammarby Sjöstad and she said they are all crowding into their apartment blocs there. She seemed annoyed by it, I was thrilled to hear it.



Blogger Sevron November 25, 2015 1:48 PM  

"Residents and newcomers"? It would be interesting to learn how much the Left's obsession with speech-policing has contributed to the coming bloodshed.

Anonymous Swed November 25, 2015 1:53 PM  

Each day Sweden takes in more invaders than Swedish children are born.

Blogger haus frau November 25, 2015 1:53 PM  

According to the article the refugees started off the hostility by throwing rocks at the natives and their property but, naturally the refugees are victims of racism when the natives return the gesture. Typical multi-culti double speak.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 1:55 PM  

@11 JartStar

If this does turn into a continental war then perhaps The Great Migrant War is a good name. Or just Migrant War.
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How about Crusades 2000

Blogger chris November 25, 2015 1:57 PM  

It is only Thanksgiving in the USA, guys. Have a good day. You are blessed to live in a very rich country that can still afford to be stupid.

But your federal government is bankrupt, bleeding the legions in foolish wars, and is being Pwned by people who understand realpolitik. You may not be rich for much longer. When you are poor, stupidity is lethal.

On the topic, I note that the vibrant minority starting throwing stones. Assuming that they could intimidate.

Vikings.

The stupid must be strong in them.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau November 25, 2015 1:58 PM  

Hey Markku You every read Finnish artist Minna Sundberg's Scandanvian Dystopia Webcomic "Stand Still, Stay Silent"? It's pretty good with a couple of the characters being Sissi/Mages.

Blogger David-093 November 25, 2015 2:03 PM  

"There are something like 6 times more Hispanics in the USA than Muslims in Europe."

I'd take 50 million Mexicans over 8 million Muslims any day. They arent even close to the same, which is why Americans have been so slow in waking up to the problem.

Blogger Phat Repat November 25, 2015 2:06 PM  

From the article: "...it is going to be war, the brutal sort of war that not only slaughters women and children, but targets them."

I have been considering the purchase of the 4GW book that VD recommended. Is this something that's discussed in the book?

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2015 2:06 PM  

It seems like we've gone from no one paying attention to demographics to many taking "demographics is destiny" far too literally and fatalistically. Birth rates change, both up and down. Migration patterns change. Sometimes both change pretty quickly.

Blogger gunner451 November 25, 2015 2:10 PM  

The west seems pretty much toast to me, they've stripped themselves of any sort of religious beliefs and embraced a secular humanism that celebrates just about any conceivable evil that you can think of (feminism, socialism, Sodomy, hedonism, sexual promiscuity, drugs, etc.) then add in a self loathing hatred for their own culture's past accomplishments and you've constructed a civilization that could be conquered simply by emitting a few "feel bads" in their general direction.

Vox seems to think that at some point the White Europeans will rise up against the onslaught of dark skinned Muslims but I kind of doubt that. If the men of Sweden can't even pee while standing up how do you expect them to have the stones to actually start an ethnic cleansing? The west is ruled by their women and I expect that they will look in contempt at their feminized men and lust after some darker masculine men as seems to be happening all over Europe. I expect the police to drop the hammer on the few that seem to be doing something to resist which will quickly pacify the rest (which weren't up to more than speaking mild rebukes while their daughters whore themselves out to the new alpha's).

Eastern Europe may be the last bulwark against the Muslim hordes, just like they were 500 or so years ago, maybe because they were never weakened by the Roman civilization influences like western Europe was and have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to them as shown in how Poland is reacting to the invasion versus France.

Blogger Lovekraft November 25, 2015 2:11 PM  

Would love to see a poll now versus ten years ago of the average Swedish woman as to whether she thinks feminism has benefited her. Of course this won't happen, but we all know the answer.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2015 2:12 PM  

Each day Sweden takes in more invaders than Swedish children are born.

Until it doesn't.

Blogger James Higham November 25, 2015 2:13 PM  

The humane thing would have been to keep the invaders out and help them in their own lands.

As we've been on about to those who would not listen.

Blogger JartStar November 25, 2015 2:20 PM  

@29 Sweden isn't Europe. It may become Muslim, but that doesn't mean France and Germany will.

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 2:20 PM  

The west seems pretty much toast to me

Because you don't know anything about history. Nothing proceeds in a linear fashion. You would have thought Rome was pretty much toast a dozen times before they finally razed Carthage.

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 2:21 PM  

I expect the police to drop the hammer on the few that seem to be doing something to resist which will quickly pacify the rest (which weren't up to more than speaking mild rebukes while their daughters whore themselves out to the new alpha's).

Let me guess. MGTOW?

Your position doesn't even make sense. The feminized Swedish police without stones are going to drop the hammer?

Blogger Markku November 25, 2015 2:22 PM  

Me, I am bloodthirsty. I understand how Vox might not be - he's a smörgåsbord of ethnicities, living in none of his. I'm a Finn and this is my country.

I thirst blood.

Blogger Alexander November 25, 2015 2:22 PM  

@28

Indeed.

It's not the ideal way to do it, but a decade of babyboom can undo 50 years of decline.

I'd also point out that once-upon-a-time, Blacks were an absolute majority in Mississippi. Curiously, it was not a particularly good time to be black in Mississippi.

Demographics may determine the future, but the future hasn't happened yet.

Blogger Alexander November 25, 2015 2:24 PM  

@36

Already planning out how you will pose frozen kebabs in the snow?

Blogger OneWingedShark November 25, 2015 2:26 PM  

From the article: "As a result of the merciless brutality of our forebears, we have enjoyed 60 years of peace, technological advancement, and wealth, and we are now at risk of losing 2,000 years of civilization due to the ideologies that have arisen as a result of that softness."

While I certainly agree with the thrust here, I would argue that there is only one central thought to all these ideologies and one central goal: the central thought, the common thread is a push towards collectivism (more accurately an anti-individualism; as evolution devalues human individuals by reducing them to merely a collection of atoms), and the single goal is Statism where, like Mussolini said, "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

If we look at it through the lens of St. John's Revelation, where we see the statements like "no man could buy or sell, save him with the mark" fairly clearly indicating if not a single world government, then at least a single common and all-pervasive system... and that would require that all extant governments embrace the underlying ideology.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 2:30 PM  

@36 Markku
Me, I am bloodthirsty. I understand how Vox might not be - he's a smörgåsbord of ethnicities, living in none of his. I'm a Finn and this is my country.

I thirst blood.
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May I suggest that you position the bodies in a goat humping conga line near your borders?

Blogger So Meh November 25, 2015 2:40 PM  

the idea of Eastern European countries stitching together the old Warsaw Pact to protect themselves from the Western Euro Muslim invaders would have been beyond fantasy...now after watching Angela Merkel's reverse Children's Crusade...not so much. the other meme I'm still trying to get a handle on is the Euro Christians are now the 1930 European Jews. Amazing depressing times. Happy Virtue-Signaling Thanksgiving Everyone.

Blogger gunner451 November 25, 2015 2:41 PM  

Vox,

"Your position doesn't even make sense. The feminized Swedish police without stones are going to drop the hammer?"

Not exactly what I said, I said that the men (in a general sense) were too feminized to resist, the police are to a large extent feminized (just look at how many women are on any particular police force) but are still a powerful arm of enforcing state policy. They still have the resources and power to keep the relatively passive Swedes in line. But seem to generally lack the ability to effectively police the invading hordes (as seen in France where there are no go zones that the police generally don't go into unless in a large force for a short period of time).

Also I'm not a MGTOW, though I understand the reasoning behind it I view it as a symptom of the disease, kind of like the grass eaters of Japan and yet another confirmation that the west is in the process of collapse. It might actually be the collapse that saves the west as the primary reason most of these people are rushing into Europe is the hope of freebies, and if the welfare state collapses under the weight of all these new freeloaders they may just decide to go home.

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 2:44 PM  

But seem to generally lack the ability to effectively police the invading hordes (as seen in France where there are no go zones that the police generally don't go into unless in a large force for a short period of time).

You don't understand how these things work. They have the ability, they are ordered not to do so. Once the police lose confidence in the state and start serving the people, the power equation changes. This will not happen for ideological or class reasons, much to the dismay of the Marxists. It will happen for ethnic reasons. The situation is simply waiting for the right spark.

Blogger Kirk Parker November 25, 2015 2:45 PM  

Meanwhile the "king" of Sweden frets about bathtubs vs showers.

I'm sure if my Swedish ancestors could see the place today, they'd join in burning it down.

Blogger justaguy November 25, 2015 2:47 PM  

When I think of the West, I think that the US versus Europe are two separate entities with separate futures. Europe went off the rails after WWI when they lost too many of their leadership class. The US never faced with the loss of their best and brightest in the fields of Flanders, stayed the course. I see Europe and US diverging greatly in culture, ethnicity, and most certainly religion. While Europe looks like it is close or has reached the point of no return, I don't think that the US has yet. Europe, with large internal muslim populations, and the only ones really breeding, seems to be doomed to the assimilation Islam has sought for centuries. The US has a different immigrant population without the same background, religion, or culture--hence a different outcome.

For the US, I subscribe to Codevila's class scheme, with much of our leadership class having been corrupted by the effects that occur when a society has lost touch with their religion and culture--they are adrift and increasingly ineffective and trapped by their own pathologies-- look at the ivy league campuses. But the majority of the US is still Christian, conservative, and currently outvoted by recent immigrants from the 1965 turn America into a Third-World Hellhole Act by Ted Kennedy. I don't think that we are past the point of no return yet. Close, but not yet. The majority are looking for a turn to the cultural past--hence Trump popularity-- he seems to represent to much of America as leader from the past and not the the effete leadership class. He is an example of why I don't think that the US is at the same point as Europe. We are still basically Christian and even our latin american immigrants are mainly Christian.

Russia is still very much separated from the rest of Europe and hopefully will stay that way for our sakes (avoid the European corruption.) I don't know if Russians have changed enough from their communist foray to emerge as a viable civilization capable of fighting Islam. The jury is still out, but Putin is acting like a great Czar and seems to have a better strategy than anyone else. Whether or not he can lead his people out of the morass I think has more to do with the religious and moral components than the structural ones, but who knows...

Blogger gunner451 November 25, 2015 2:52 PM  

Vox,

"Because you don't know anything about history. Nothing proceeds in a linear fashion. You would have thought Rome was pretty much toast a dozen times before they finally razed Carthage."

I'm a true believer in Christ and his revelation which pretty much requires that the Roman empire not completely go away and that it will be revived in the last days. But who is to say it won't be the eastern "leg" of that empire that revives, which if you look at it is pretty much the Muslim world. Rome tottered along for centuries after it's fall for the simple reason of there not being any civilization that could or wanted to take over. The Babylonian empire fell to the Medes and Persian empire which fell to the Greeks which fell to Rome, there simply wasn't anything after that in the European/near east part of the world.

Blogger JartStar November 25, 2015 3:02 PM  

I was thinking today that since the safest places from terrorists are Mafia controlled, then you take 4GW + Global Depression + Migrant War = a massive decentralization of most countries into enclaves controlled by powerful groups, some bad, some not so bad, where people segregate themselves.

Blogger gunner451 November 25, 2015 3:06 PM  

Vox,

"You don't understand how these things work. They have the ability, they are ordered not to do so. Once the police lose confidence in the state and start serving the people, the power equation changes. This will not happen for ideological or class reasons, much to the dismay of the Marxists. It will happen for ethnic reasons. The situation is simply waiting for the right spark."

Yes I fully understand how things "work", the police will do the bidding of whoever pays them which is whoever is in power. But the police are as I stated before are feminized which means that they can and do police the relatively docile white population of Europe but it remains to be seen if they have the ability to effectively police a population that is willing to take quite a bit more abuse before crying uncle. With the white guys all it takes is a few being made examples and the rest fall in line, with the Muslims the examples are martyrs with a ticket to heaven and inspire more of the same. There was a reason the people like Saddam were so brutal and I don't believe that the police as they are right now in most of Europe can or are willing to do what Saddam had to do to keep things under control. Also, as these populations metastasize into their host country they also infiltrate the police and so form an effective second front against policing their own kind.

Anonymous Geoff November 25, 2015 3:06 PM  

I thirst for blood - Markku

You also thirst for a white Christmas.

And snow would be nice, too.

Anonymous Elija November 25, 2015 3:08 PM  

You aren't fooling anyone, Vox. You don't regret the wR you think is coming. You crave the prospect of any and all non white blood being spilled. And not because it's "invader blood" but because it's non white and non Christian blood. Try to deny it, but you've demonstrated over and over again that any Jewish, Hispanic or black blood spilt is just fine with you.

--face palm--

Keep eating your own.

Anonymous ST November 25, 2015 3:10 PM  

A "men" like Scalzi are to blame. They have blood on their hands.

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 3:33 PM  

You aren't fooling anyone, Vox. You don't regret the wR you think is coming.

First you laughed and said I was a crazy bigot when I warned that it was coming. Now that you can finally see it too, you lie and claim I wanted it from the start.

Anonymous kfg November 25, 2015 3:37 PM  

"With the white guys all it takes is a few being made examples and the rest fall in line . . ."

Right up until the time the equation suddenly reverses and a few of the police are made examples of.

Blogger Danby November 25, 2015 3:38 PM  

Try to deny it, but you've demonstrated over and over again that any Jewish Hispanic or black blood spilt is just fine with you.

Vox, i didn't know you were a cutter.

Blogger Danby November 25, 2015 3:41 PM  

With the white guys all it takes is a few being made examples and the rest fall in line,
Which is why the king of France rests secure in Versailles. And the greeks knuckled under to the German army. And the Irish enjoy the blessings of English rule to this day.
Do not mistake patience and forbearance for passivity.

Anonymous kfg November 25, 2015 3:42 PM  

" . . . Scalzi. I guarantee he's in the pro-refugee faction... up until his lily-white Ohio town is selected for enrichment."

How many tents can you pitch on a 5 acre lawn?

Blogger Student in Blue November 25, 2015 3:43 PM  

@VD
When we were in Rome last summer, the Minnesotans we were with commented that there are more Muslims in Minneapolis than in Rome.

Americans miss the whole "Proximity" part of the Proximity + Diversity = War equation.

Also "reservation, not 7-11".

Tipi, not IT.

@Markku
Now, I'm under no illusion that the Lutheran Church is anything other than a complete sellout. But this tells you something about the social climate.

NALCALT. And at the very least there are competing synods that vary so wildly that they're practically different denominations.

Blogger Markku November 25, 2015 3:44 PM  

I mean the Finnish Lutheran Church, which is a state church. We have a state religion, you see. No establishment clause here.

Blogger Rusty Fife November 25, 2015 3:50 PM  

@40 Were-Puppy

So as to enrage them; perhaps posing them as goat-humped would be more effective.

You don't want to encourage them.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 25, 2015 3:51 PM  

I wish my European friends luck. My salutations and wishes for good fortune in your upcoming struggle for your civilization are with you.

But we've got our own problems and they are waaaay worse than Europe's. They just aren't as obvious yet. The Europeans at least have a gene's deep tribalism to fall back on.

Our genetic drive is quite a bit different. I've said it before, Americans are born Rebels and that's not hyberbole.

For the first century or so we got the people with a gene's deep drive to strike out on their own. A genetic behavioral trait that constitutes perhaps 05% in the rest of base populations but here it works out to about 45% of the base population.

Our drives are unique to us.

And for the moment they are being channeled peacefully enough. Just about everyone I know is figuring out a way to hang out a shingle for whatever skills they bring to the party. We are clearly in a Deflationary economy at this point.

But past a certain point the Carnivorous Eloi are going to have to give up draining our life blood and start drilling for bone marrow.

That is when the War of All Against All Begins.

We are not born Peasants. We are born Rebels.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 4:00 PM  

@27 Phat Repat
From the article: "...it is going to be war, the brutal sort of war that not only slaughters women and children, but targets them."

I have been considering the purchase of the 4GW book that VD recommended. Is this something that's discussed in the book?
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There is a little bit about it, and how it costs you the moral level.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot(Ret.) November 25, 2015 4:04 PM  

Just got back from the local Walmart.
Holy!... Saint Darwin.
It was an evolutionary freak show.
I just hope these second and third world countries,
Haven't sent over all of their good looking people first.

DannyR

Blogger OneWingedShark November 25, 2015 4:09 PM  

@55 "Do not mistake patience and forbearance for passivity."

I'm reminded of this poem:
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling


It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 4:10 PM  

@53 kfg
"With the white guys all it takes is a few being made examples and the rest fall in line . . ."

Right up until the time the equation suddenly reverses and a few of the police are made examples of.
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Or until the time they realize they have nothing else to lose.

Blogger Rabbi B November 25, 2015 4:13 PM  

"Now that you can finally see it too, you lie and claim I wanted it from the start."

Yep. This is often how a prophet gets treated in his own house.

Blogger Student in Blue November 25, 2015 4:14 PM  

@Markku
I mean the Finnish Lutheran Church, which is a state church. We have a state religion, you see. No establishment clause here.

I get what you're saying. You're absolutely correct on the Finnish Lutheran Church too - basically everyone in World Council of Churches is suspect.

There's still the synods on the International Lutheran Council, which while it has the usual cucks and etc, isn't subverted yet.

Anonymous Elijah November 25, 2015 4:21 PM  

It's only the blood thirsty who are hoping for ethnic cleansing and predicting war. The rest are caring for their families and living their lives. They don't have time for promoting death.

Blogger Student in Blue November 25, 2015 4:22 PM  

You don't have to be wishing for rain in order to predict it.

Blogger Dexter November 25, 2015 4:28 PM  

the other meme I'm still trying to get a handle on is the Euro Christians are now the 1930 European Jews.

The thoroughly annoying meme I keep hearing is that the Syrian refugees are the 1938 Jews who got on a ship, but then the Jew-hating USA wouldn't let them in, so they went back and the Nazis killed them all.

Which is false in every respect but hey, SJWs Always Lie...

Blogger Markku November 25, 2015 4:29 PM  

Your bloods are my noms.

Anonymous Anonymous November 25, 2015 4:38 PM  

"My son," said the Norman Baron, "I am dying, and you will be heir
To all the broad acres in England that William gave me for share
When he conquered the Saxon at Hastings, and a nice little handful it is.
But before you go over to rule it I want you to understand this:–

"The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite.
But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right.
When he stands like an ox in the furrow – with his sullen set eyes on your own,
And grumbles, 'This isn't fair dealing,' my son, leave the Saxon alone.

"You can horsewhip your Gascony archers, or torture your Picardy spears;
But don't try that game on the Saxon; you'll have the whole brood round your ears.
From the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf in the field,
They'll be at you and on you like hornets, and, if you are wise, you will yield.

"But first you must master their language, their dialect, proverbs and songs.
Don't trust any clerk to interpret when they come with the tale of their wrongs.
Let them know that you know what they're saying; let them feel that you know what to say.
Yes, even when you want to go hunting, hear 'em out if it takes you all day.

They'll drink every hour of the daylight and poach every hour of the dark.
It's the sport not the rabbits they're after (we've plenty of game in the park).
Don't hang them or cut off their fingers. That's wasteful as well as unkind,
For a hard-bitten, South-country poacher makes the best man- at-arms you can find.

"Appear with your wife and the children at their weddings and funerals and feasts.
Be polite but not friendly to Bishops; be good to all poor parish priests.
Say 'we,' 'us' and 'ours' when you're talking, instead of 'you fellows' and 'I.'
Don't ride over seeds; keep your temper; and never you tell 'em a lie!"

Blogger clk November 25, 2015 4:45 PM  

"I have been WARNING everyone of it for at least ten years specifically because I did NOT want it to happen. It could have been avoided. But now it is too late."

The quote --- "Somehow "I told you so" just doesn't just say it" seems appropriate right about now...

Blogger Harsh November 25, 2015 4:53 PM  

It's only the blood thirsty who are hoping for ethnic cleansing and predicting war. The rest are caring for their families and living their lives. They don't have time for promoting death.

Those of you who stuck their head in the sand when the problem was manageable without war and then started pointing fingers when the inevitable bloodshed began are the ones to blame.

Blogger rumpole5 November 25, 2015 4:53 PM  

Huh? Did you fall into a SJW cliche cauldron? Someone throw this poor fellow a lifeline before he chokes!

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2015 4:54 PM  

Thing is, if a lot of formerly secular people are showing up at churches right now, they aren't coming there for the usual lightweight kumbaya singing and "Jesus loves me" macaroni pictures. They're coming because they hope religion can give them something solid to hang onto, and if they don't find that at the first church they try, they'll keep moving until they do, or they'll take over and demand it.

Blogger clk November 25, 2015 4:54 PM  

It almost has a biblical, revelation sort of feel to this whole situation... we certainly are in the neighborhood of where the biblical Armageddon is thought to occur... where the heck is Wheeler when we need him.... somebody is going to have to take up the slack here...

Blogger Student in Blue November 25, 2015 4:57 PM  

Gonna have to start introducing myself as a Saxon-American.

Anonymous Eric Ashley November 25, 2015 5:01 PM  

The typical American's viewpoint of Europe is shaped by us having to rescue them thrice in one century. WW1. WW2, and the Cold War...

Given that a lot of Euros did their best to lose the Cold War, or were general punks about it, its understandable for an American to look at Europe and think...

Britain...tough but small.
Switzerland....really nice fortress.
France...have to take out their nukes before we issue ultimatum for surrender.
The rest....It'd take about two weeks to conquer them all. On the outside.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot(Ret.) November 25, 2015 5:13 PM  

THE VOX SAYTH
(and I'm talking that big booming burning bush voice we all had of VD in our head,before we heard him on the radio.)
THE VOX SAYTH:
Just as it is with Rock,Paper and Scissors,
So shall it be with Christians,Secularists and Muslims.

The Secularists (and pagans) beat the Christians,
The Muslims beat the Secularists (and pagans),
and the Christians beat the Muslims.
DannyR

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 5:14 PM  

@74 rumpole5

Huh? Did you fall into a SJW cliche cauldron? Someone throw this poor fellow a lifeline before he chokes!
---

Let them eat cake.*






*Forced Christian baked Wedding cake even.

Blogger Phillip George November 25, 2015 5:15 PM  

What makes invaders wrong isn't skin colour or language. Its muhammadan paganism, delusions of moral adequacy. Sweden had a church a variation of Lutheran. Luther had a gospel. The gospel has an author, representatives and a policy.
✠ In this sign conquer. Well Constantine did his bit. The rest is up to us.
How? 1. Halal is just another neo pagan blood letting ritual the Queen of Jordan tried unsuccessfully to get the West to reject. Think about that. A middle eastern Queen attempted to get the West to reject one single little foot in the door entryism of neo pagan blood worship. Just one little wedge sliver in the door.

Fiction writers couldn't make this up. POE's law says parody can't keep up with the actual descent into stupid.

A virtue signalers, fig leaf wearers are pig ignorant of the most rudimentary elements of gospel. Churchians are pig ignorant clueless about their own church.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/mideast-princess-in-plea-to-rudd-on-animal-slaughter-20091101-hrkx.html

This is real politic. A member of the Jordan ruling royal family appeals to a nominally Christian National leader to not make entryism concession to Islam because it will lead to "death":

A fiction writer couldn't make this up,,


Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 5:16 PM  

@76 clk

where the heck is Wheeler when we need him.... somebody is going to have to take up the slack here...
---

Isn't he the one who would somehow make Turkey shooting down a Russian plane part of a freemason plot hatched by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?

Anonymous kfg November 25, 2015 5:17 PM  

"They don't have time for promoting death."

And boy are they going to be surprised when it finds them.

Anonymous kfg November 25, 2015 5:19 PM  

@64 Were-Puppy:

The two states have a remarkable habit of occurring simultaneously.

Blogger Gaiseric November 25, 2015 5:21 PM  

@26 I'd take 50 million Mexicans over 8 million Muslims any day. They arent even close to the same, which is why Americans have been so slow in waking up to the problem.

I agree; not all Third World peasants are equal, and the Hispanics are an order of magnitude less barbarous than the Saracens. Add to that the fact that we now own through right of conquest and/or treaty a large chunk of land that was previously part of Mexico and New Spain before that. Although of course there's been a huge spike in Hispanic numbers in the US ever since the traitorous Immigration Act of 1965 was passed, and the modern American welfare state established, there's always been an ambient level of Hispanic population in the US going back to the settlement of Texas, Florida and the southwest. We shouldn't have no Hispanic population.

We should have no Saracen population, though. Not a single one of the adherents of the barbarous false prophet Mohamed should live in America without repenting and renouncing that vile ideology.

Blogger Rabbi B November 25, 2015 5:22 PM  

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Anonymous Swed November 25, 2015 5:22 PM  

The Swedish police have to deal with the vibrancy every day, are overworked, underpaid, saddled with cowardly leaders they hate and humiliated by the powers that be. I don't think the state can count too much on their loyalty.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2015 5:27 PM  

Swiss banning burquas now ?

Blogger FP November 25, 2015 5:33 PM  

"Isn't he the one who would somehow make Turkey shooting down a Russian plane part of a freemason plot hatched by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?"

Don't forget the Spartans.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 25, 2015 5:46 PM  

problems are said to have begun in September when migrants started throwing stones at locals' cars, and residents retaliated by throwing them back

In leftist this means its the Swedes fault for replying in kind.

Twelve thousand people have joined the Lutheran Church recently. Nobody knows why (officially). For many, many years the news were only that they have lost so and so many thousands of people. Now, a complete 180 degree turn

In the US Lutheran and Catholic groups are the biggest names in refugee resettlement.

If the men of Sweden can't even pee while standing up how do you expect them to have the stones to actually start an ethnic cleansing?

Tell them women get wet for true Viking men, then list how many women write letters to Breivik. Is there a count of how many marriage offers he got divided by his kills? Swedes will be out beheading moslems with axes to get the best girlfriend.

Yes I fully understand how things "work", the police will do the bidding of whoever pays them which is whoever is in power

I am pretty sure the Baltimore cops were not told to guard donut shops after heroine dealer Freddie's death, but their ignoring of crime has lead to record level murders. Maybe someone on San Fran city council should tell cops to stop blacks from bashing gays/Asians

@40 Were-PuppySo as to enrage them; perhaps posing them as goat-humped would be more effective...You don't want to encourage them.

Perhaps a few strategically placed steel jaw traps in snow goats would help with the moslem population.

Elijah It's only the blood thirsty who are hoping for ethnic cleansing and predicting war. The rest are caring for their families

If the pendulum was not about to swing we would be somewhere that you could get Chinese delivery at 3am. How would you feel if us puffs survived and your kids didn't? I should work on my guide to surviving the Nigapocalypse

Blogger AdognamedOp November 25, 2015 5:54 PM  

Ghosts of Cannae is a pretty good read, for whoevers interested.

Blogger SciVo November 25, 2015 5:56 PM  

@ Gaiseric & VD:

Also "casino, not convenience store."

Blogger TheRedSkull November 25, 2015 6:08 PM  

The Aztec doth protest too much
Whilst fingers stone age dagger clutch;
But every zoist libtard felt it:
He who smelt it must've dealt it.

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 25, 2015 6:15 PM  

The elites overplayed their hand. Creeping gulag was working - gradually transitioning from a community of free natives to a nationwide slave camp/charity hospital through constantly increasing taxes, regs and immigration. They tried to transition from waves of migrants to a tsunami and woke up the natives.

Blogger Darth Toolpodicus (#144) November 25, 2015 6:19 PM  

"Or until the time they realize they have nothing else to lose."

This. Guy. Gets. It.

The only thing keeping a lid on is the fact that people have jobs needing kept, houses needing tended, and families needing fed. Take those things away and the equation changes overnight.

Anonymous Godfrey November 25, 2015 6:22 PM  

@94
It's simply a matter of human nature. Establishing a totalitarian hellhole takes patience, but the elites want to enjoy the evil results within their lifetime. So they rushed things.

Anonymous DT November 25, 2015 6:28 PM  

A tranquil Swedish village is being torn apart by bitter tensions after the arrival of 20 refugee families...Residents and newcomers have exchanged insults, thrown rocks and set fire to cars, leaving many on both sides scared to leave the safety of their homes.

Wait a minute...is there something wrong with Sweden's dirt???

Anonymous WillBest November 25, 2015 6:43 PM  

@85 I don't know what the land used to belonging to X has anything to do with it. If you conquer it, buy it, or discover it, and you can hold on to it, its yours.

Mexicans have no more claim to the Southwest than the Chinese or Russians. Or that would be true under normal circumstances. Now Mexico has a claim to the American southwest because 20 million Mexicans live there. As America has allowed this, it is quickly (historically speaking) headed towards a "who wants it more" moment.


Anonymous Godfrey November 25, 2015 6:43 PM  

I think rationalism is based on personal observation, reason and rational deduction.

Observation:
1 ISIS miraculously has food, clothing, housing, weapons, ammunition, new shoes, new trucks, money, the tech/ability to produce and transport oil, etc.
2 ISIS is somehow able to transports oil long distances unhindered
3 The military might of ISIS grows and the West is powerless to stop it.
4 The West cannot even prevent ISIS from selling oil on the "black market"
5 Russia intervenes in Syria and bombs ISIS
6 Suddenly within a short couple of weeks ISIS is on the run and a young military age male migration crisis into Europe (through Turkey) follows
7 A Russian commercial flight to Egypt is "mysteriously" blown out of the sky
8 A Russian bomber is shot down by a NATO member Turkish fighter for a minor border violation


Obvious Conclusion:
The West is and has been actively and/or indirectly supporting ISIS as a proxy army
against Syria.

Anonymous Old Man in a Villa November 25, 2015 6:48 PM  

@99

Pretty much, yeah.

Blogger VD November 25, 2015 6:57 PM  

Take those things away and the equation changes overnight.

Precisely. I laughed when I saw that they fired the German security guard who talked about a revolution in two years. I'm sure he's a lot LESS revolutionarily-inclined now, right?

OpenID elijahrhodes November 25, 2015 6:59 PM  

Elijah, you pathetic creature of darkness. How ironic, given you share a name with a great prophet who warned that there would be punishment if the people did not turn from the sin of idolatry. Not only do you dishonor your namesake, you embody his warning.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 25, 2015 7:03 PM  

@59 Dog-humped.  Or pig-humped.

@93 It's not Kipling but it'll do.

I'm just waiting for the next step in the pushback.  I recall a newspaper quote to the effect of "some old person dies and the next day they move 8 migrants in" (to an apartment, presumably).  Just how vulnerable are these invaders in apartments to sneak attacks assisted by other residents?  Very, I'd assume.

Rather than doing things one apartment at a time, the other way for the traitors to go about it is to clear out entire buildings for invaders only.  Then the nationalists simply blow the entire building, since there are no friendlies there any more.

Combine this with taking out the traitors in police and government and the invaders probably couldn't get out of the country fast enough.

Anonymous Nxx November 25, 2015 7:06 PM  

@ 67 Elijah

It's only the blood thirsty who are hoping for ethnic cleansing and predicting war. The rest are caring for their families and living their lives. They don't have time for promoting death.

Translation from SJW to english:

If you persist in seeing reality as it is instead of vocally demanding that it be something else, you will cause reality to become real thus making it your fault.

Blogger Darth Toolpodicus (#144) November 25, 2015 7:21 PM  

I'm sure he's a lot LESS revolutionarily-inclined now, right?

I don't see this guy passing the time sitting on his ass complaining about the food being unfit for women or dogs.

Idle hands...

Blogger TheRedSkull November 25, 2015 7:31 PM  

@103
Kipling can't exist today
Colonialism has gone gay.
Now the fellow's James LaFonde
Slumming in a negroid pond.

Blogger ray November 25, 2015 9:40 PM  

'We in the West are the softest generation in human history. As a result of the merciless brutality of our forebears, we have enjoyed 60 years of peace, technological advancement, and wealth, and we are now at risk of losing 2,000 years of civilization due to the ideologies that have arisen as a result of that softness.'


Soft, spoiled AND ungrateful. Not good.

Boom Boom out went the lights and that was it for the Imperial Dragon for a spell. Otherwise no Special Special America.

Oh! Why couldn't you have killed it nicer? So typical of patriarchal abusers. If WOMEN had been in charge we'd have talked some sense into it!

etc

Blogger Hunsdon November 25, 2015 10:17 PM  

Our host should use the Kingsley Amis' suggested title for Robert Conquest's book reissue as the title of this post.

"I Told You So, You Fucking Fools"

Blogger SciVo November 25, 2015 11:16 PM  

@ WillBest: As America has allowed this, it is quickly (historically speaking) headed towards a "who wants it more" moment.

I find myself curious. I think I know, but the proof is in the pudding.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite November 26, 2015 12:18 AM  

In Germany:
* "It cannot be that offenders continue to fill the police files, hurt us physically... and there are no consequences. ... We are losing control of the streets." — Tania Kambouri, a German police officer.

White people must and shall survive, despite all the harm our brilliant enemies have done us and are continuing to do to us.

Anonymous Wyrd November 26, 2015 12:33 AM  

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/wow-psychotic-swedish-minister-cries-before-cameras-because-country-cracks-down-on-migrants-video/

As Archie Leach says in A Fish Called Wanda, "Are you totally deranged?"

Blogger Phat Repat November 26, 2015 12:41 AM  

@Were-Puppy
"There is a little bit about it, and how it costs you the moral level."

That's what I surmised and thus gives me pause to purchase.

Considering we are battling an immoral barbarous cult, it would not be possible to defeat them using the "professional" soldier's TTPs.

Anonymous Anonymous Something November 26, 2015 12:59 AM  

Breivik for king. All hail King Anders the First!

Anonymous ze Swede November 26, 2015 1:16 AM  

"This is a sign of health. It does not surprise me it is coming from the youth and the smaller communes. They have been getting hit the hardest with invaders for years. In fact, you can go months and never see a muslim in Stockholm city center and certainly never in the wealthiest suburbs. Take the trains out on certain lines and get out, you will swear you are in Islamabad or the like."

The only true part of the above is the last sentence. There are plenty of browns in the center of Stockholm and I doubt you could go more than a day even in Djursholm without seing a brown.

I commute through central Stockholm every single day it's as brown as a dirty asshole

A few years back when I came back from a vacation in portugal I realized Bromma airport had more darkies in the arrival hall than I saw in central Lisbon. Made me want to puke.

Ja, jag är svensk. Den andra snubben: not so much.

Blogger astrodominant November 26, 2015 1:22 AM  

@18 VD

We use red dot, no feather. My wife told that to an Indian (sub continent) guy she works with and he likes it much more than your more common one. And he uses them both freely.

Anonymous Anonymous Something November 26, 2015 1:32 AM  

The Russian Orthodox Church has historically sometimes referred to Russia as the "Third Rome" (i.e. successor to the fallen Second Rome, Constantinople), both theologically, as the leader of Orthodoxy, and politically, as the Russian royalty married into the family of the last Byzantine Emperor, and so by their rules (if not the pseudo-Republican ones he had claimed to follow) were his heirs. (I haven't actually checked whether the final version of the Romanovs can trace that line, but it wouldn't surprise me.)

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 1:34 AM  

@VD
The feminized Swedish police without stones are going to drop the hammer?

They'll certainly have the guts to drop the hammer on white Swedish girly men. It will be almost too easy.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite November 26, 2015 1:54 AM  

Anonymous Something: "Breivik for king. All hail King Anders the First!"

Hail!

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 2:57 AM  

For people who only want to remove "refugees" you are strangely bloodthirsty. You also make the mistake of believing that everyone is like you. Lots of people are a lot more tolerant than you are of aliens.

To put it this way, I think before people are in favor of violence, they would be in favor of closing the borders as in, an elected leader would come in and make it so. To claim that natives want to spill blood while right wing parties are still utter minorities is far fetched. A guy that like to kill foreigners wont have a problem voting far right. The paucity of such votes makes me doubt your claims.

I also wonder how mujahideen are less capable than drug cartels. What is the cause for this opinion?

Anonymous Wyrd November 26, 2015 3:05 AM  

Tommy Hass sez "accept violent muslims before you apply login, reason, and stuff!" Sorry, Tommy, we have our own leader spewing the same shit at this moment. Try again later.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 3:36 AM  

Oh stfu. I'm saying that if people were nearly as fed up and ready to kill people as you claim, far right parties would gain more than 20% of votes and politicians would close the borders on their own.

I've seen too many shitlibs wanting MOAR refugees and spoken to much more resonable anti refúgee people to believe your claims.

In other words: the "Saxon" only goes full retard when he has to. He doesn't have to here, which is why he probably won't. Capiche?

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 3:37 AM  

Btw, they gonna put 2000 "invaders" to where my dad used to work for decades. Fucking scumbag pols. :'(

I know this is not my country, but it's still painful. It's so unnecessary...

Blogger VD November 26, 2015 4:16 AM  

Oh stfu. I'm saying that if people were nearly as fed up and ready to kill people as you claim, far right parties would gain more than 20% of votes and politicians would close the borders on their own.

Sweden Democrats are approaching 30 percent. The Swiss People's Party are over 30 percent. When AfD hits 30 percent, you might want to seriously consider a return to Turkey.

This isn't stopping, Tommy. It's only going to get worse. Europeans are still in shock. Once they realize that they have been betrayed and it will never, ever be the way it was before, they are going to be very, very angry.

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 4:21 AM  

@Tommy Hass
I'm saying that if people were nearly as fed up and ready to kill people as you claim, far right parties would gain more than 20% of votes

That's a valid point. Electoral support for nationalist parties is still pitifully meagre. When nationalist parties start getting close to 50 percent of the vote I'll believe there's an actual pushback.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 5:09 AM  

Remember that Vox predicts showers & ovens only in a few decades. And Nationalist parties had way less than one percent support just ten years ago. The trend is looking right for the prediction.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 5:21 AM  

" When AfD hits 30 percent, you might want to seriously consider a return to Turkey."

Um, am I a retard for voting for them? I thought, the earlier they get to have a say the less likely it is to have extreme measures.

I mean, it's not like there are 20% Muslims, which would make repatriation/what we did to Armenians GENUINELY unavoidable. Now, if a nationalist party is in power, the reaction would be like a tooth extraction compared to an amputated arm.

I can imagine Europeans deporting aliens, but killing? That's possible, but never something you should/can count on. It's like a worst case scenario, but there is no reason to assume that such bloodbaths WILL happen.

Remember Operation Wetback? Not too violent.

Anonymous Wyrd November 26, 2015 5:23 AM  

"In other words: the "Saxon" only goes full retard when he has to. He doesn't have to here, which is why he probably won't. Capiche?"

Are you totally deranged?

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 5:25 AM  

I can imagine Europeans deporting aliens, but killing?

Because nobody here seriously entertains the option that the aliens will leave. They will fight, and then showers & ovens.

Blogger Shimshon November 26, 2015 5:28 AM  

Operation Wetback was not a European initiative.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 5:39 AM  

"Are you totally deranged?"

Why? I mean, it's not like the Western white man is backed into a corner. Almost all of his problems are self-inflicted, including the "refugees". Given what we know about the "Saxon", he's capable of great extremism, but usually when backed into a corner.

How can that be said about current Westerners?

"Because nobody here seriously entertains the option that the aliens will leave. They will fight, and then showers & ovens."

The recent aliens will absolutely leave, expecially if you don't make any posmises that you intend to let them stay, ESPECIALLY if they notice their kids getting exposed to western culture.

Guys like me MIGHT resist, but then, it's not people like that you need to worry about, I'm pretty "assimilated".

Also, my country has a history of ethnic cleansing and they never had to use showers or ovens. Why that when you have bayonets? You are overly pessimistic.

If you're honestly not in it to kill foreigners, you could even grease the skids by offering a small sum (silver or lead, as Escobar said it). Some might consider it humiliating to offer "invaders" money to leave, but it's minor compared to the meaningless expenses governments currently have AND you get to get your nation back without turning into a satanic person.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 5:50 AM  

If you're honestly not in it to kill foreigners, you could even grease the skids by offering a small sum (silver or lead, as Escobar said it). Some might consider it humiliating to offer "invaders" money to leave,

We are not in power. Those who want to destroy Europe, are. That's Vox's point about nationalists & ultras. There is no longer time to get moderate nationalists in power - not at this rate of the social mood turning. There was once, but now there isn't. It is always the extremists who are the best motivated. They are the ones who are ready to sacrifice their lives, and who are willing to give every waking hour to the project. When the majority has switched opinion. the extremists are ready with a solution that can be put into action immediately.

Blogger Shimshon November 26, 2015 5:51 AM  

Tommy, I don't think anyone here is advocating for showers and ovens. You are conflating statements of inevitability (because of a keen understanding of European nationalist tendencies and consequences) with advocacy.

It also doesn't matter that Western problems are "self-inflicted."

You're wrong. Just as the highly assimilated Western European Jews were wrong in the 1930s. Even if you are "assimilated," you will be caught up in the frenzy too, once it gets started in earnest.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 6:04 AM  

Perhaps you have still been too insulated from the mainstream culture, Tommy, to understand just how incredibly different it is that people are just casually small-talking genocide amongst themselves. For three generations this has been unthinkable. And now it's everywhere.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 6:07 AM  

Wasn't the whole Jew thing done by the government, pretty much in secret? I mean the gassing, not the propaganda against them. Then there's the fact that, with all due respect, Jews are notoriously obnoxious and always magically manage to piss people off. I don't think that even Muslims can reach that level.

But I shall keep it in mind.

I have nephews that are white as hell and not religious in the slightest. (one of them has even seemed "atheist" and he isn't even TEN! Brat...)

Them having to go from a place they would fit into pretty perfectly because of some brown Islamists that were imported basically because of retarded Western policies is tragicomic.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 6:10 AM  

Wasn't the whole Jew thing done by the government, pretty much in secret? I mean the gassing, not the propaganda against them.

It is my understanding that people were aware that Jews were being transported somewhere, with an intensity that made it obvious that the intent was to get rid of them all, but generally people assumed that Hitler had just figured out some plan to scatter them around. It apparently did come as a genuine surprise after the war for the common people that they had been killed instead.

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 6:12 AM  

@Tommy Hass
If you're honestly not in it to kill foreigners, you could even grease the skids by offering a small sum (silver or lead, as Escobar said it). Some might consider it humiliating to offer "invaders" money to leave, but it's minor compared to the meaningless expenses governments currently have AND you get to get your nation back without turning into a satanic person.

That might well prove to be the most likely outcome. It's something that even liberals will probably come to support, once they realise that immigration threatens some of their most cherished projects, such as feminism and the promotion of sexual depravity. If it comes down to a choice between the feminazis and homosexuals on the one hand and immigrants on the other then liberals will cheerfully throw immigrants under the bus. Liberals might be irrational but don't underestimate their understanding of their own self-interest.

And it's not like halting immigration will distract liberals from their objective to destroy western civilisation. They will always find some means to do that.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 6:13 AM  

As for yourself, I haven't even seen your picture, so I cannot tell how alien you seem to the majority of any particular country. My guess would be that moderate nationalists would have allowed you to stay, ultras will want your life.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 6:19 AM  

The fact that you would choose "hatred" for your obviously pseudonymous last name might perhaps tell me something.

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 6:22 AM  

@Tommy Hass
Wasn't the whole Jew thing done by the government, pretty much in secret? I mean the gassing, not the propaganda against them.

As I understand it it was done very secretly indeed, and with considerable care not to leave any paper trail.

In fact the original intention was simply to expel them. At one point Hitler was all for shipping them to Madagascar. Had it not been for the war they would have been expelled. Had Britain and France not foolishly declared war in 1939 the Holocaust might have been avoided.

Imagine if the Jewish homeland had been Madagascar rather than Palestine? So many subsequent nightmares could have been avoided. OK, it might not have been much fun for the Madagascans but it would have been better for everyone else. And from Madagascar it would have been a lot more difficult for them to invade their neighbours.

Anonymous Wyrd November 26, 2015 6:22 AM  

So, Tommy wants the West to cry like a little bitch because Christianity. It's that nice?

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 6:42 AM  

"As for yourself, I haven't even seen your picture, so I cannot tell how alien you seem to the majority of any particular country."

http://www.facity.com/faces/palermo/600/0355665078f0e9c5b23affc7bdb8b737.jpg

Except my beard is pathetic compared to his so I only have a moustache and a goatee and my hair is straight.

And I'm SLIGHTLY more handsome, I swear. :S

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 6:44 AM  

Well, it's somewhere at the edge of "that's pretty bad" as I expected. You could probably get away with pretending to be European if your hair weren't raven.

Blogger Shimshon November 26, 2015 6:45 AM  

If you look like that, my impression is that your skin is definitely paler, but you have distinctive Muslim features. I would not count on blending in.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 6:47 AM  

"The fact that you would choose "hatred" for your obviously pseudonymous last name might perhaps tell me something."

It's because of a German tennis player named Tommy Haas. Some people misspelled his name as "Hass" and it became an inside joke. When I created this account, I was following tennis intensely. Given my propensity to rage on the internet (against shitlibs and atheists, for the most part) I thought it was funny. I dunno.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 6:48 AM  

Now that we're sharing, This is me. The actual me, not a stand-in me.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 6:58 AM  

Lol, but that guy IS European.

Anyway, my father, with his red/auburn hair and freckles, wouldn't struggle blending in at all. I've got some reddish tinge in my hair but it's only REALLY visible under harsh lights.

Oh well.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 7:02 AM  

I don't know in which meaning you use the word European. The word that used to be Caucasian is now European. So, I don't know if your claim is genetic or geographic.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 7:04 AM  

Lol, you look a lot more normal/harmless than I imagined.

I mean, not that I thought you were Varg Vikernes or anything, but I thought you'd look a little less....teddy like, lol. (no offence)

I'd expect a Finnish dissident to look a little more like he is in need of sleep, or something. The eyes are classic Finn though.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 7:07 AM  

"I don't know in which meaning you use the word European. The word that used to be Caucasian is now European. So, I don't know if your claim is genetic or geographic."

He is from Sicily/Palermo, apparently, i.e. a Euro. I just googled "Sicilian man" and picked the guy that resembled me most.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 7:19 AM  

"Imagine if the Jewish homeland had been Madagascar rather than Palestine?"

I would stab out one eye, if I could make that happen, retroactively.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 7:22 AM  

But I _am_ harmless. Guys that look like me, are thinking this.

What are guys that look like Varg Vikernes thinking?

Anonymous kfg November 26, 2015 7:23 AM  

". . . I thought you'd look a little less....teddy like . . ."

He's a decent looking guy with good basic structure. If he dropped just a few body fat percentage points people might start to assume he waters his flower bed with motor oil.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 7:31 AM  

Yes, I did start lifting again after the photo was taken. I had stopped for about three years.

Blogger Shimshon November 26, 2015 7:50 AM  

By the way Tommy, the Jews were indeed hated, perhaps even justifiably so, as you say, but we never presented a clear and present danger to the very existence of European civilization the way that your brethren did and do.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 7:54 AM  

In fact, we should start a lifting/exercising accountability program among the Ilk. Everybody who is in has to turn in their daily exercise report, and there will be verbal abuse and shaming for skipping, unless a good excuse is provided.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 7:56 AM  

Reps for Civilization, perhaps.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 26, 2015 7:56 AM  

@135 You don't consider that depravity may not be an end, but a means.  The left is obviously willing to sacrifice gays and women's rights to bring in muslims; what they all have in common is that they corrode Western civilization.

Blogger E. Burke November 26, 2015 8:00 AM  

Hispanics are more or less accustomed to a subservient position to whites. This mass Hispanic immigration to the US is hell on the working class, but not much of a problem for the middle class and elites; we are just becoming more like Brazil. However, the Muslim must conquer or be conquered, and his presence in the West means war, now or later.

Anonymous rienzi November 26, 2015 8:09 AM  

@50.: "You aren't fooling anyone, Vox. You don't regret the wR you think is coming. You crave the prospect of any and all non white blood being spilled. And not because it's "invader blood" but because it's non white and non Christian blood. Try to deny it, but you've demonstrated over and over again that any Jewish, Hispanic or black blood spilt is just fine with you."


And the problem is?

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 8:11 AM  

@Mr. Rational 156
You don't consider that depravity may not be an end, but a means. The left is obviously willing to sacrifice gays and women's rights to bring in muslims; what they all have in common is that they corrode Western civilization.

Oh absolutely, of course depravity is a means to an end. It's a very powerful means. Just as feminism is a means to an end. What we see as the agenda of liberalism or of the SJWs is merely smoke and mirrors. All of it is just means to an end - keeping power in the hands of those who currently have that power. The fact that it appears to be a leftist agenda is an illusion as well - the Left as such no longer exists. It was hijacked long ago. Those who believe they are serving the Left are just useful idiots for the elites with the power.

My point is that feminism and depravity are tools for undermining western civilisation that are even more useful than immigration. If a choice has to be made then immigration will be sacrificed, at least temporarily. As useful idiots go feminists and sexual deviants are much too valuable to be sacrificed.

It's already happening. The liberals who are starting to waver on immigration are doing so because they want to reassure the feminazis and the deviants. That's why conservatives who think they can ally with liberals on this issue are living in a dream world.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 8:23 AM  

Oh hell, Markku has done it...

http://de.tinypic.com/r/2cpuxxd/9

I should cut my hair again/shave.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 8:24 AM  

"And the problem is?"

Was your first victim a cat or a guinea pig?

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 8:24 AM  

I would say that without any Allahu Ackbars at the wrong moment, you wouldn't be on anyone's targets except the ultras.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 8:29 AM  

Heh. Good to hear.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 8:55 AM  

Btw guys, how did you enjoy the beatdown of Rousey. OT: but probably vindicating for some of you.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 8:58 AM  

We mostly restricted our enjoyment to certain other community. Let's put it this way: there were memes.

Blogger Tommy Hass November 26, 2015 9:14 AM  

/sp/? Sherdog?

Blogger Markku November 26, 2015 9:19 AM  

Secret society, only for well-vetted Ilk with immaculate record in ilkdom and ilkishness.

Anonymous Bane (not THE Bane) November 26, 2015 9:24 AM  

Peace has cost you your strength.
Victory has defeated you

OpenID elijahrhodes November 26, 2015 9:25 AM  

When immigration levels are very modest, immigrants have no choice but to assimilate into the dominant culture. They might not have a deep connection to western values because their history is not western, but they are basically chill people who don't rock the boat.

However, when the floodgates open, there is no impetus nor time for the cultural assimilation to happen. People coming en masse bring everything but the dirt with them. That's where we are at now, both in Europe, and progressively in the U.S. since the 60's. Plus, there's an entire government apparatus designed to turn unassimilated immigrants into perpetual victim voters.

Here's the problem: Once the latter are deemed a big enough threat that society is willing to do what it takes to reestablish order, then the former will necessarily get caught up in the vortex. When the shit hits the fan, no one is going to ask whether you were an assimilated immigrant or a savage. People will align racially, and target anyone not in the group.

I grant that for that to happen things are going to need to get a hell of a lot worse. But the groundswell of discontent is now here. The soil is fertile. No one is willing to take up arms yet, but make no mistake, people are begging to think the unthinkable and prepare accordingly.

Blogger SciVo November 26, 2015 9:41 AM  

Oddly, I think I've become the nice guy here for advocating that we just send some of the people that we don't want to some African nation that can't stop us, until the rest self-deport. And I half-suspect that will become the "hey, I'm the nice guy" scenario for what actually happens in the real world, since so many people have their knives out.

Blogger SciVo November 26, 2015 9:44 AM  

rienzi @158: And the problem is?

Because it's false.

Blogger SciVo November 26, 2015 9:53 AM  

Markku @144: Now that we're sharing, This is me. The actual me, not a stand-in me.

I shouldn't be surprised since I'm a quarter Finnish, but we could be cousins except for your red hair, which I have very little of.

Blogger SciVo November 26, 2015 9:54 AM  

That is very little red. Plenty of hair. Stupid ambiguities.

Anonymous kfg November 26, 2015 9:54 AM  

" . . . so many people have their knives out."

Including, I'm afraid, the Africans.

Blogger SciVo November 26, 2015 10:23 AM  

kfg @174: Including, I'm afraid, the Africans.

But our immigrants are all so valuable that we should be grateful to have them! Why would anyone lay a hand against them? Say it ain't so!

Anonymous A. Nonymous November 26, 2015 2:35 PM  

Yes, we are Carthage not Rome. We became financial and commercial, whereas Rome was predominantly agricultural. Further, like Carthage we slaughter children en mass.

Which would, I suppose, make Russia the new Rome, appropriately enough.

Blogger rcocean November 26, 2015 4:45 PM  

"Imagine if the Jewish homeland had been Madagascar rather than Palestine? '

What about the Madagascans? What about their Rights?

Anonymous kfg November 26, 2015 5:03 PM  

#lemurlivesmatter

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 5:17 PM  

@rcocean
What about the Madagascans? What about their Rights?

I have every confidence that the Jews would have shown the same concern for the Madagascans that they showed for the Palestinians.

Blogger dfordoom November 26, 2015 5:20 PM  

@kfg
#lemurlivesmatter

All prosimian lives matter!

Anonymous kfg November 26, 2015 6:03 PM  

Well somebody has given up their chance to be King of the Lemurs.

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