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Sunday, December 06, 2015

A message from Russia



The message of tomorrow's release is much the same. The world has changed. The rules have changed. If you do not change with them, you will lose your nation and your posterity.

The politicians and governments will not defend you. They have no intention of defending you. They have made this world of cowardice, fear, and cringing in the dark, waiting to die.

You don't have to believe the Russians are good guys to understand that they have already been through their dark night. They have already survived their great test of godlessness. The West, on the other hand, is only beginning its time of trials.

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168 Comments:

Blogger Markku December 06, 2015 4:13 PM  

Yep, take it from me, the Russians aren't the good guys.

But their interests align with us, and the interests of Western governments are opposed to us.

Anonymous Wyrd December 06, 2015 4:14 PM  

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/donald-trump-the-scum-terrorists-dont-want-to-die-theyre-chickenhit-video/

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 06, 2015 4:21 PM  

But isn't President Erkel going to assuage our fears tonight? Of course the Cuckservatives will soft peddle the fact that the left is largely responsible for those collapse, they make good money for that

Blogger stevo December 06, 2015 4:23 PM  

Wow. Do you know who made this video?

Anonymous Godfrey December 06, 2015 4:27 PM  

A significant portion of the populace of everyday people view the Western ruling classes as a loving parent that will nurture take care of them. The reality is very different. The ruling classes view them as a virus. They look upon humanity as a problem. They seek not to just drastically reduce our numbers, they seek to impoverish, control & enslave those of us who remain.

If you don't already have class consciousness, then you better some quick. There is an exclusive club and we're not members.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 06, 2015 4:28 PM  

I don't understand the appeal of these videos where they go to a different person every two seconds. It's discombobulating. Presumably the effect is supposed to generalize the opinion so it looks like many different people believe it.

Anyway, I'd trust a Russian as far as I could throw him, but I would take one ally over zero allies.

(But I've read Solzhenitsyn and I know that only cockroaches survived Stalin. Russia is like Somalia- nothing good is left. Should I be surprised when a cockroach gives birth to a cockroach?)

Anonymous Godfrey December 06, 2015 4:30 PM  

@1

It's a matter of who's the bigger threat. And the answer is that it isn't the Russians.

Blogger Sherrie December 06, 2015 4:31 PM  

In the late 80s/early 90s, I was a journalism major at a Midwestern University. The editor of Pravda came to speak to our class. At that time, the Soviet government was oppressive, but rapidly losing its grip, which is why the editor was able to speak fairly freely to us.

At that time, Russian people admired America, it's culture, its freedoms, its system of government. It's funny and sad how much has changed. Now, WE have the oppressive government, and our culture is being systematically destroyed.

This video is really inspiring. I hope it changes some minds.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 06, 2015 4:31 PM  

@5 Godfrey,

A significant portion of the populace of everyday people view the Western ruling classes as a loving parent that will nurture take care of them. The reality is very different. The ruling classes view them as a virus. They look upon humanity as a problem. They seek not to just drastically reduce our numbers, they seek to impoverish, control & enslave those of us who remain.

If you don't already have class consciousness, then you better some quick. There is an exclusive club and we're not members.


That is the best I've seen that written. But I think "virus" is a little too sterile. It's not just contempt. They view us with visceral disgust like bugs.

OpenID ar10308 December 06, 2015 4:46 PM  

What's amazing is that the West has more in common with the Nazis AND the Communists than it does with Islam. While both the Nazis and Communists left a wake of horror and destruction in their paths, they at least preserved the culture around them. Islam is a wholly alien beast. It has nothing in common with civilization. Wherever Islam has travelled, it has a left a wake of destruction, terror and darkness such that it has erased entire civilizations. It is a scourge of locusts upon this planet.

@2 Trump's words are firing on seriously K-selected terms. He wants Americans with guns to fight a clearly identified enemy. His bold speech in the face of terror is going to resonate further and further, like Churchill's during the Blitz. Especially put side-by-side with Obama's words of surrender and providing cover and comfort to the enemy, to the point of denying that they are an enemy.

Blogger Kallmunz December 06, 2015 4:52 PM  

Three cheers for the Russians (never thought I'd write that, but glad to do so!) We are on the path to destruction, perhaps that Russians can show us a better way.
I doubt this is happening in Russia: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/72-dhs-employees-on-terrorist-watch-list/

Blogger Phillip George December 06, 2015 4:52 PM  

"in the pursuit of tolerance you have lost God.//// /////// tomorrow there will be no more you"

the separation of church and state was always a myth, God has never stopped believing in Theocracies.

the myth is killing you.

Peter calls you a royal priesthood. ie. King and Priest, like Melchizedek, to whom Abraham offered tithes after his battles with heathen dog anti christs. Jesus is King of Kings. ie. for Him to be your King you should think and act like a sovereign in the nations bringing them to heal. Ruling over children, the mentally incompetent and the plain batshit crazy.

the separation of Church and State is killing you.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 4:53 PM  

Utterly disgusting. People at the square where they still revere Lenin and Zhukov (they guy who masterminded the largest mass rape in the history of the world) telling us they stand with Europe.

Blogger eharmonica December 06, 2015 4:58 PM  

Those chicks are pretty hot. Even the fat one.

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 4:59 PM  

Anyone here speak Russian? I don't trust the speech matches the captioning. Sorta like those non-Asians who get tats of Asian characters that don't always translate to what they were told.

Blogger Phillip George December 06, 2015 4:59 PM  

Here is precisely, exactly what Europe was built on:

To fear God and maintain His Church
To serve the liege lord in valour and faith
To protect the weak and defenceless
To give succour to widows and orphans
To refrain from the wanton giving of offence
To live by honour and for glory
To despise pecuniary reward
To fight for the welfare of all
To obey those placed in authority
To guard the honour of fellow knights
To eschew unfairness, meanness and deceit
To keep faith
At all times to speak the truth
To persevere to the end in any enterprise begun
To respect the honour of women
Never to refuse a challenge from an equal
Never to turn the back upon a foe


of course it only works if your precepts are Christian. otherwise, as the Russian says, tomorrow there will be no "you"

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 06, 2015 5:03 PM  

Well, this video has been a long time coming. They haven't been playing tiddlywinks with the Chechens. A long, hard road to hoe. With treason right in front of our faces.

Anonymous A. Nonymous December 06, 2015 5:13 PM  

We may finally be looking at the Third Rome...

Blogger VD December 06, 2015 5:16 PM  

I don't understand the appeal of these videos where they go to a different person every two seconds. It's discombobulating.

It's really not. The appeal is that the changes maintain your attention in a way that a single person droning on would not.

Blogger Kallmunz December 06, 2015 5:17 PM  

Here is precisely, exactly what Europe was built on:

"Was" being the operative word.

Anonymous cheddarman December 06, 2015 5:22 PM  

The slavs are our Christian brothers. I have met russian christians who kept the faith under communism. They are lions of the tribe of judah.

OpenID simplytimothy December 06, 2015 5:39 PM  

"The Vampire Lestat" was my thought at 1:43 in.

Anonymous BGS December 06, 2015 5:41 PM  

I don't understand the appeal of these videos where they go to a different person every two seconds.

At least there is actual diversity in the video, with whites you have a choice of blond, redhead, brunette, dark & different eye colors.

Anyway, I'd trust a Russian as far as I could throw him I don't trust most people as far as I can throw them.

Sorta like those non-Asians who get tats of Asian characters that don't always translate to what they were told.

That might have been someone using a pickup line on you.

Anonymous Wyrd December 06, 2015 5:42 PM  

"The Vampire Lestat" was my thought at 1:43 in.

Two guys, one coffin?

Blogger Positive Dennis December 06, 2015 5:43 PM  

Markku, is anyone the "good guys"?

Blogger Markku December 06, 2015 5:44 PM  

No.

Blogger Markku December 06, 2015 5:44 PM  

It's pretty much Game of Thrones now.

Blogger Billy December 06, 2015 5:45 PM  

The Russians suffered terribly under the bolsheviks. Like general Patton said before his mysterious death "we fought on the wrong side". Demographically the Russians came out ok. We're not going to be so fortunate.

Blogger Paul Widdecombe December 06, 2015 5:47 PM  

It's good, but not thIs good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryqrqeeTJek

(I assume everybody on this blog has seen this clip; worth reposting anyway as it should be mandatory viewing)

Love the way there are two translators & neither have the stones to translate what Vlad actually said. Worth digging around to try and find the full length clip with the question that prompted the response from an SJW reporter, if you've not seen it.

VP needs no lessons from VD on how to deal with SJWs (...also he was said to have expressed regret over his outburst)

Blogger bearspaw December 06, 2015 5:48 PM  

@15
The translation is essentially correct.

Blogger Paul Widdecombe December 06, 2015 5:48 PM  

#15 Dave - the translation is spot on.

Blogger Positive Dennis December 06, 2015 5:50 PM  

#6 Russians are extremely reliable, if you are thier друг. (Friend or good friend) if you aren't then you can go **** yourself. This is why Putin's apartently unscripted "stab in the back" comment is so significant.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 06, 2015 5:54 PM  

What's that old saying, we either hang together or hang separately?

Anonymous Yakov Smirnoff December 06, 2015 5:59 PM  

In Soviet Russia, drivers don't fail because loading Win-blows 10 new Trump news.

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 5:59 PM  

Thanks bearspaw and Paul.

BGS: no tats here, have several Asian friends who always amuse me when they point out people's tats that don't mean what they think

Blogger James Dixon December 06, 2015 6:11 PM  

> Utterly disgusting. People at the square where they still revere Lenin...

AT this point, there are fewer people in Russia who revere Lenin than there are in the US.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 6:15 PM  

36. James Dixon, that's only natural. Not unlike what's going on today, Russian Communism was made in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEVOIO4TbZs

Blogger Paul Widdecombe December 06, 2015 6:18 PM  

Друзя!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSn07j3SfSY

Diversity in россия:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrU1hZxSEXQ

Blogger Paul Widdecombe December 06, 2015 6:24 PM  

We'll have that one, thanks Antonio - Karl Marx spent his most productive years in a boozer in Tottenham Court Road, Central London.

In our defence, most publicans saw fit to bar him from their premises & most of the regulars were sensible enough to respond to his pseudo-dialectic with violence.

Blogger Floyd Looney December 06, 2015 6:28 PM  

Arrest your dissidents
Imprison or poison political opponents
Invade peaceful neighbouring nations
elect a tyrant tsar

this will make everything better

:p

Blogger The Kurgan December 06, 2015 6:34 PM  

I'll take living in Russia over living in the USA. For mental sanity mainly.

Anonymous Ain December 06, 2015 6:39 PM  

Civilized governments need to ally together against the 4GW beasts.

Blogger LP999 December 06, 2015 7:03 PM  

May the beautiful people prevail!

Anonymous Sensei December 06, 2015 7:06 PM  

It's embarrassing that some people's OODA loop apparently hasn't updated since the cold war. There is a difference between rivalry and enmity.

OpenID tz December 06, 2015 7:37 PM  

@Sensei
They don't do OODA, they do UDII:
Unobservant
Disoriented (occidentally?)
Indecisive
Inactive.
But they might not like Volga-rity.
https://vimeo.com/143538618

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 7:49 PM  

Trump's words are firing on seriously K-selected terms. He wants Americans with guns to fight a clearly identified enemy. His bold speech in the face of terror is going to resonate further and further, like Churchill's during the Blitz.

You're verging into "Trump is a Lightworker" territory.

Anonymous 11B December 06, 2015 8:11 PM  

Zhukov (they guy who masterminded the largest mass rape in the history of the world)

If you invade my country and cause the deaths of 25 million of my fellow citizens, then expect no quarter.

Anonymous John J December 06, 2015 8:19 PM  

I like Russia. We need Franklin Graham to go over there and negotiate with VP for some US Christian lebensraum.

Blogger Phillip George December 06, 2015 8:20 PM  

Paul Widdecombe, I question your motivation. Want to wave a diversity flag by any chance? Tell us Hillary is the lesser of all evils. That David Cameron is fighting ISIS from now on?
SJW's lie, Synogogue of satan lies, diversity lies, chrislam lies to you, taqiyya lies, revisionists lie, guilt trip self flaggelators lie, narcissists, soicopaths, virtue signalers lie, a pile of deal bones speaks truth

are the democratic party a death cult? - is a bit of today's rhetoric making the rounds.

In what way exactly is the USA not ISIS is an interesting point to debate?

Interesting perspective you uniquely brought to the table Paul. Looks professional infact.


Blogger Doom December 06, 2015 8:36 PM  

Hmm? Already survived? Hardly. They just learned how to die more slowly. It's... grotesque. They have been dying tortuously slowing since raping and murdering Anastasia, thus having to murder the others. They are far from survivalists. Vampires without any more blood to suck. They will be dead, as a people, before even Western Europe at the rate they are going. They are just as secular, and that is the poison in their food. The only thing they can teach is what not to do. If anything, the West seems to be trying to hurry up and follow along. Russia is dead, just doesn't know it, and worse than the West, even if the invasion continues. Bah!

You are a serious fanboy of the decidedly wrong side. While the West is truly imploding it is doing it half so fast as Russia, even now. What are they now, economically, Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa? I just don't get you sometimes. Russia is deader than the West and in more of a hurry to finish it.

We aren't neighbors, and never will be. Actually, I would bet Zero is more on their side than he should be... just as he is on islam's side. Neither any better or worse. Tyranny of one sort or another is simply not the American way. It is the European way, however. At least you are European so will fit in. Though you should know you will need to leave God behind to move forward into that new secular European world. I wish you well. Though I thought you understood better. God or socialism/communism. Can't server both.

OpenID ar10308 December 06, 2015 8:38 PM  

@46 You're verging into "Trump is a Lightworker" territory.

In a world that is saying that Hitler will just be happy if we give him Poland, the one stating the simple fact that we have an enemy and should fight that enemy becomes a revolutionary.

Trump will not stop the imagined rise of the oceans, nor heal the Earth destined to be consumed by the Sun in a few billion years.
He is speaking about turning away the tides of shit-tier humanity that swarm our shores and aim to flood your neighborhood to displace you.

Donald will make America K again.

Anonymous bw December 06, 2015 8:46 PM  

They have no intention of defending you VD

Indeed. They're the ones (the "faces") who've done it to you. Through "law", nonetheless, for those who still profess belief in such.

I lift some Smirnoff to my spiritual friends (uncertain of who they really might be or are)

#28 Like general Patton said before his mysterious death "we fought on the wrong side". Demographically the Russians came out ok.

Very much this. Billy, Get Your Guns.

Blogger Hammerli280 December 06, 2015 8:47 PM  

@44 Sensei:

Good point. A lot of older (40+) conservatives are so accustomed to the Soviet threat that we have to force ourselves to remember that the USSR ceased to exist a quarter-century ago.

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 8:47 PM  

In a world that is saying that Hitler will just be happy if we give him Poland, the one stating the simple fact that we have an enemy and should fight that enemy becomes a revolutionary.

Because no one has been saying that?

Blogger MidKnight (#138) December 06, 2015 8:51 PM  

@36 James Dixon
AT this point, there are fewer people in Russia who revere Lenin than there are in the US.

All too likely true.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 8:53 PM  

I've been watching Trump rallies.

I have this nasty feeling that he is just the establishment trolling Reps with the wall and ending terrorism just as Obama trolled the Dems about closing gitmo and all the other lies. I'm surprised there aren't more conservatives smelling a rat here. It's interesting how he scolds the public for not having gone out and voted for Romney.

Blogger FP December 06, 2015 8:53 PM  

Just saw Rubio on Fox news replying to odumbo's speech and the terrorists in San Berdu. He wants the NSA spying restored and called Snowden a traitor.

"Agents who access data unlawfully will be fired and prosecuted."

Just like in Fast n' Furious and the IRS?

Anonymous The OASF December 06, 2015 8:54 PM  

Where is the "Cukies, Unite!" video? Oh wait it's not Monday yet.

Blogger Markku December 06, 2015 9:01 PM  

They will be dead, as a people, before even Western Europe at the rate they are going.

The tide is turning, and the growth rate is already ever so slightly on the positive side

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 9:02 PM  

I have this nasty feeling that he is just the establishment trolling Reps with the wall and ending terrorism just as Obama trolled the Dems about closing gitmo and all the other lies. I'm surprised there aren't more conservatives smelling a rat here. It's interesting how he scolds the public for not having gone out and voted for Romney.

Why don't you want to Make America Great Again?

OpenID paworldandtimes December 06, 2015 9:07 PM  

Confirming that the English subtitles match the spoken words.

Notice the swipe at Murka's foreign policy, spoken by the bearded guy with glasses, beginning at 1:20.

Russia is offering Europe an alliance alternative to its post-WWII bond with Europe.

PA

OpenID paworldandtimes December 06, 2015 9:08 PM  

... post-WWII bond with USA.

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 9:26 PM  

I like Russia. We need Franklin Graham to go over there and negotiate with VP for some US Christian lebensraum.

That is exactly the opposite point of the video.

Russia for Russians. Not Americans.

OpenID ar10308 December 06, 2015 9:29 PM  

@54 Because no one has been saying that?

SJWs always lie, like you. Who actually has been saying to build a wall and deport invaders? The Cuckservatives?

@56 It's interesting how he scolds the public for not having gone out and voted for Romney.

Trump: 'Don't give me advice when you choked in 2012.'

Anonymous Quartermaster December 06, 2015 9:33 PM  

Russia is in more trouble than many think. Their institutions are still extractive, rule of law doesn't exist, and they are economically, once more, close to collapse. They are about like West Virginia, and declining.

If Russia wants any help, either economic or military, then get out of Ukraine (that includes Crimea)and quit threatening your neighbors.

OpenID paworldandtimes December 06, 2015 9:38 PM  

negotiate with VP for some US Christian lebensraum.

Somebody didn't read my post, No Permanent Sanctuary in the East

PA

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 9:49 PM  

@66 thanks for that link!

Anonymous Whitey McWhite December 06, 2015 10:07 PM  

This is a good path forward.

White people hanging on to our old national grudges against each other is only a path to a mass grave for the white race.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:08 PM  

"SJWs always lie, like you. Who actually has been saying to build a wall and deport invaders? The Cuckservatives?"

Hey there... Noob... if you can't maintain a coherent thought process... shut up. This isn't youtube.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:09 PM  

Is it just me or have the comments taken a steep decline in the last month?

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:11 PM  

SJWs always lie, like you.

I'm not an SJW.

Bitch.

Who actually has been saying to build a wall and deport invaders? The Cuckservatives?

Did you even read the link you were applauding? He was talking about the Paris and San Bernardino attacks in the video.

You said:

the one stating the simple fact that we have an enemy and should fight that enemy becomes a revolutionary.

Plenty of people have said that radical Islam is the enemy and we should fight it. Which is, again, what that link was talking about.

Now, regarding your goalpost shifting:

Who actually has been saying to build a wall and deport invaders? The Cuckservatives?

Conservative talk radio has been talking about both for years. Most of the 2008 and 2012 republican presidential candidates talked about building a border fence. Vox has been talking about deportation since the Gay Mustache Incident.

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:12 PM  

Is it just me or have the comments taken a steep decline in the last month?

The Dread Ilk need to Make The Comments Great Again!

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 10:14 PM  

@70 Gay Mustache Incident, what's that?

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:17 PM  

"@70 Gay Mustache Incident, what's that?"

Jesus...

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:17 PM  

@70 Gay Mustache Incident, what's that?

A glorious early example of the fearsome dread ilk:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2006/06/pale-horse-tramples-michael-medved.html

Anonymous Whitey McWhite December 06, 2015 10:18 PM  

Were-Puppy: "What's that old saying, we either hang together or hang separately?"

We are bound together by a common fate: this one doom, the name of which I will not now utter.

I am not interested in recitations of our ancient wrongs against each other, why Gondor needs no kings, or why Dwarves say: "Never trust an Elf!"

Blogger Positive Dennis December 06, 2015 10:22 PM  

Russia will never leave Crimea. No leader of Russia will allow its only warm water ports to be in a NATO country.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:26 PM  

Hey ladies...

Crimea doesn't want Russia to leave.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 10:29 PM  

@74. Thanks!

Blogger Positive Dennis December 06, 2015 10:30 PM  

The vote was 80%. The Tartars are violently opposed.

Anonymous Godfrey December 06, 2015 10:32 PM  

@65
The USSA international police state is a threat to humanity.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:34 PM  

I swear we need to build a giant beautiful luxurious wall around the comment section... and some of you people... you're gonna have to go home. That's the way it is.

And I am not opposed to having a big beautiful door in the middle of that wall. (granted it will stay locked almost all the time) But the Wall has to be built.

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:37 PM  

Let's face it, Youtube isn't sending up their best commenters.

They're sending the trollers, the spammers, the aspies, the rapists...

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 06, 2015 10:37 PM  

81. we'll need an environmental impact statement, you know.

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:38 PM  

81. we'll need an environmental impact statement, you know.

The environment here is toxic. This is not a safe space.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:39 PM  

I mean look... we're being swamped with these new commenters.. they are basically barbarians. They don't know our history. They don't share our culture. They barely speak our language. Many don't.

I don't have a problem with barbarians being barbarians in barbarian places. But this isn't a place for barbarians.

This is VP. This is the home of the Dread Ilk.

BUILD THE WALL VOX!

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:40 PM  

BUILD THE WALL AND MAKE SCALZI PAY FOR IT!!!

Blogger HardReturn¶ December 06, 2015 10:43 PM  

@74 thanks for that great memory, Josh
RIP EP

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:43 PM  

"RIP EP"

amen brother.


amen.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:44 PM  

File 770 for the CHORFS. Whatever for the Rabbits. VP for EVERYBODY

Blogger ray December 06, 2015 10:44 PM  

Trial comes to the whole world.

It's always Thanksgiving, and you are Turkey. It's not the Ottoman Empire anymore and you are not exactly a global military power.

Do you, unprovoked, shoot down the airplane of a vast power surrounding your north and east borders. . . a power armed to the teeth? Not accidentally we are sorry mind you, but, Russia intruded on our airspace and we meant it?

Doesn't compute. Yes NATO, but Turkey/Erdogan are mooslims. Their flag is the crescent and star. So, this had larger purposes.

Blogger ncartist December 06, 2015 10:44 PM  

If [America] wants any help, either economic or military, then get out of Ukraine (that includes Crimea)and quit threatening your neighbors.

Gee, that works better.

OpenID ar10308 December 06, 2015 10:50 PM  

@Nate, @Josh, Follow the numbers. The second part of my comment @10 was in response to the link posted @2. It was mostly related to r vs K selection, and how Trump's words are appealing to and creating more K-selected individuals.

Then Josh came in with the false equivocation of Lightworkerness. Because if the Cuckservatives are blocked from nominating a Jeb! those who block their agenda are automatically guilty of idol worship.

VFM #429

Blogger Hunsdon December 06, 2015 10:50 PM  

@29 Subtitles are accurate. Voice translation, not so much.

Blogger Nate December 06, 2015 10:51 PM  

"Doesn't compute. Yes NATO, but Turkey/Erdogan are mooslims. Their flag is the crescent and star. So, this had larger purposes."

**sigh**

Pipeline.

Its all about the pipeline.

Turkey and qatar and the EU and America want the pipeline.

Russian and Assad don't.

and that's all you need to know to understand everything.

The US created ISIS to overthrow assad so the pipeline could be built through syria, through turkey, into the EU... wrecking the Russian monopoly.

Blogger Hunsdon December 06, 2015 10:51 PM  

@6. Umm, nope. Maybe I should call you a cuckroach?

Blogger Josh December 06, 2015 10:52 PM  

Then Josh came in with the false equivocation of Lightworkerness. Because if the Cuckservatives are blocked from nominating a Jeb! those who block their agenda are automatically guilty of idol worship.

No moron. Because you compared Trump to Churchill.

Blogger Hunsdon December 06, 2015 10:56 PM  

I can vouch for the accuracy of the translation subtitles in the original post. There was only a place or two where I might quibble, and then it was a matter of phrasing, not anything of substance.

Blogger Hunsdon December 06, 2015 11:00 PM  

@50. Dear Doom: ha ha ha ha. You do know that Russian Orthodox priests are being trained as paratroops so they can bring the Word to Russian soldiers when they're forward deployed? No? I've thought you were an ignorant buffoon in the past. These comments have confirmed it.

Anonymous Claymore December 06, 2015 11:07 PM  

Pretty ironic that tonight I was cleaning an old SKS (made in Romania). It’s a good gun. Then the POTUS came on TV and a visceral disgust came over me. I was struck by the fact that I was cleaning a communist gun, which I believe is a good investment or good survival gun, and I can’t stand to hear my own president speak. I don’t have any confidence that what he says will be in my nation’s best interest. Then I hear these communist kids talk in a language I don’t understand, and for some reason their speech seems to ring truer than anything I’ve heard tonight.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot(Ret.) December 06, 2015 11:24 PM  

Trump needs to announce he'll remove America from NATO (mission completed sucessfully)
and announce a new alliance with Putin and middle European Christian countries and The Eastern Orthodox Church for the great Christian and Muslim war of the 21st Century

DannyR

Anonymous Whitey McWhite December 06, 2015 11:34 PM  

So the translation is correct. Good. I like this message.

Anonymous kfg December 06, 2015 11:34 PM  

"The appeal is that the changes maintain your attention in a way that a single person droning on would not."

It also serves to give the impression that this is not just the opinion of a single whack job, that the ideas being promulgated have some broad support.

OpenID ar10308 December 06, 2015 11:47 PM  

@96 "No moron. Because you compared Trump to Churchill."

So Churchill was a "Lightworker"? Why are you comparing Churchill to Obama?
You've just shifted your argument.

Anonymous A Visitor December 06, 2015 11:49 PM  

@1 I'll make this crystal clear: I do not like Putin, I do not like his authoritarian grip on Russians and his twisting of Christianity for the low information crowd here stateside. Having said that, we need to work with the Ruskies and kill these motherfuckers.

@13 Having spent six months in your beautiful country, and knowing what a pain in the ass PSOE and CC. OO. are, I feel ya. Still, see what I wrote Markku above.

@24 Did you really have to go there?

@28 We (as in those of us on the Right who are traditionalists) shall be fine.

@29 Had not seen that, thanks for posting.

@33 Indeed, that's attributed to Franklin (dk if he actually said it).

@35 Gotta little story for ya: sometime near my 22nd birthday, I was eating at a BW3. The waitress had 不死 tatted on her neck. (Having taken at that point four semesters of Mandarin, would go on to take two more before graduating) I asked if it was Mandarin, as I spoke it. I said if it were, it meant, "Don't die." She claimed it was Japanese and looked embarrassed as hell.

@37 I begrudgingly admire the SVR. Why? Their propaganda is damn good! Never underestimate your enemy.

@41 Give me my 2nd Amendment, my ability to worship as I see fit, and speak as a I see fit without the state coming down on me any day of the week. I remember as far back as grad school ('10-'12) Putin was referring to his rule as "controlled democracy" (I hate democracy, a fan of republics if they can be kept).

@50 I am not a Russian expert by any means but (and anyone who really is i.e. you're a native Russian who's ancestors have lived there since time immemorial or if you're a former member of an intel agency (does not matter what nationality) and tracked Russia) feel free to correct me if you're an expert, I've always wondered about the long term damage the Communist revolution did to Russian society (beyond the USSR's collapse in '91). Have they always favored strongmen?

@56 He may very well be. At least he is touching the untouchable third rail of American politics. Out of curiosity which autonomous community do you hail from?

@57 This kind of settles the whether Snowden is a traitor or not. Never worked in the CI field myself but was involved in a not too dissimilar field. The good the man did (showing our 4th Amendment rights being systematically violated) was outweighed by all the shit he took that Americans without a need to know do not really need to know. As I've said before, had he just left it at the 4th Amendment, he'd be a hero in my book.

@60 He's a Spaniard. He may very well not have a dog in this fight.

@69 I don't think so. It's just normal ebb and flow, kinda like the market (minus the Fed's involvement, heh).

@76 It's not much but that's one of the reasons they're backing Assad.

@83 Shh...

@86 LOL

@99 I have one too. They're great! Family was sitting in the same room I was and asked what Dear Leader was saying (showed what an impact he was having, none).

Blogger Josh December 07, 2015 12:02 AM  

So Churchill was a "Lightworker"? Why are you comparing Churchill to Obama?
You've just shifted your argument.


No retard.

The train is fine.

Blogger Student in Blue December 07, 2015 12:08 AM  

Now Nate and Josh, I don't agree with you re: Trump... but you're killing me with the parodies. I'm loving it.

Anonymous kfg December 07, 2015 12:18 AM  

@104: "Have they always favored strongmen?"

Due to their geographic situation they have never been able to exist without them, and the long term damage was done by the Tatars.

Blogger Josh December 07, 2015 12:19 AM  

Now Nate and Josh, I don't agree with you re: Trump... but you're killing me with the parodies. I'm loving it.

That's a terrific comment, a very classy comment, just a great comment.

Together we can make the comments great again.

Blogger Dave December 07, 2015 12:37 AM  

What a contemptible fraud!

That was Vox expressing his outrage towards the Gay Mustachio almost 10 years ago. If this happened in the present I wonder what rhetoric would Vox be slinging today?

Blogger Nate December 07, 2015 12:40 AM  

"Now Nate and Josh, I don't agree with you re: Trump... but you're killing me with the parodies. I'm loving it."

What most don't get is I don't actually have an anti trump position. I am deeply skepitical of the man but no more than most other politicians. And yes... he's a politician.

my problem, and I know at least some of this is josh's problem too, is that trumpsters are completely incapable of thinking critically about the guy and why they support him.

For example... almost all trumpsters think they support him because of immigration. In reality that isn't true. If it were true... there are other candidates that are just as good as Trump if not better.

I mean I am not a Trump guy, and I understand more about his appeal than most Trumpsters.

That's embarassing.

And here's the actual appeal. Its that he stood up to the SJW media. He got called racist and sexist and didn't cower. He didn't back down. He stood up to the crybullies.

Could've been guns. Could've been any thing. It happened to be immigration.

Blogger Josh December 07, 2015 12:44 AM  

my problem, and I know at least some of this is josh's problem too, is that trumpsters are completely incapable of thinking critically about the guy and why they support him.

For example... almost all trumpsters think they support him because of immigration. In reality that isn't true. If it were true... there are other candidates that are just as good as Trump if not better.


This is correct. Trump has essentially become a blank slate on which they project their hopes and dreams to Make America Great Again.

Also, they tend to say things about Trump that are at odds with what Trump himself has said.

Blogger Rambam December 07, 2015 12:55 AM  

So much propaganda out there right now. Choose your friends wisely and sit with your back to the wall.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop December 07, 2015 1:00 AM  

@106. Student in Blue
Now Nate and Josh, I don't agree with you re: Trump... but you're killing me with the parodies. I'm loving it.

Nate. Josh. Thunderdome. Gofundme. Let's make it happen.

Blogger Curtis December 07, 2015 1:14 AM  

Cruz and Trump are now spouting moar-war since Obama no-speech. We ought to just let Putin and Russia take care of business and leave Assad and Syria alone.

The whole propaganda package deal from the Baltic Sea all the way down to the Arabian Sea is just unbelievable... I am really surprised that most of you are missing it. There is more here than Syria and ISIS, and it goes all the way to PNAC. Including The Pentagons New Map of bringing the Gap into the Core, not because of dumbocracy, but global "you are our bitch" resources.

The mind-f**k is strong if you follow the various State Dept., White House, and USOSCE flunkies on Twitter.

https://youtu.be/xbz7SyyXbGM

Anonymous 11B December 07, 2015 1:23 AM  

What are they now, economically, Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa? I just don't get you sometimes. Russia is deader than the West and in more of a hurry to finish it.

#50

What does economics have to do with whether or not they will survive? If I am not mistaken most of the top economic nations on Earth are being swamped by third worlders. At least the top economic ones that are white/European.

It's the vibrant nations of Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and parts of Asia with crappy economies that are exploding and sending their surplus populations North.

Maybe if more Western nations were like Mississippi third worlders might not be so keen on coming. For example, the recent rush of muslims seem content with just passing through Greece and the other Mississippi-type countries of Europe and heading straight for the wealthy ones. So maybe if Germany weren't as wealthy, it might not be attracting flies.

Russia has problems. But saying that it is because of economics is not necessarily true. I'd rather have a lower standard of living if it meant the immivasion would cease.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop December 07, 2015 1:37 AM  

@110. Nate December 07, 2015 12:40 AM

What most don't get is I don't actually have an anti trump position. I am deeply skepitical of the man but no more than most other politicians. And yes... he's a politician.

my problem, and I know at least some of this is josh's problem too, is that trumpsters are completely incapable of thinking critically about the guy and why they support him.


Read The Art of the Deal. Trump knows how to structure and cut a complex deal like nobody, how to schmooze, and, different from the others, how to present on TV. It's like he's been grooming himself all these years. Maybe he turns out to be a stalking horse like Teddy or Perot, maybe not. He is at least more authentic than Ron Paul (and of course his little boy whatshisname). Alleged 'voters' pick up on that. There appears to be a factional war going on in the upper tiers, so this alleged election is harder to call: but was he invited to Davos? Maybe he ends up pulling a Ron Paul, only this time obviously without stiffing his funders. Maybe he catapults the election, and all that free publicity, into a new brand on something else. I'll bet he comes out net up regardless, and I want 10% for that.

Anonymous cheddarmanI'm December 07, 2015 1:41 AM  

Putin could really stir some shit up in the US by supporting southern independence

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 07, 2015 1:51 AM  

@104. I don't dispute that the West (at least Europe) would better have Russia on its side. But I see a lot of enthusiasm for Putin's machoflash attitude and the pious Rodina's resurgence, and it doesn't match my experiences in Russia.

Still, to begin with, neither the West nor Russia are serious against Islam yet--they are both using it as a proxy, a foil, a pawn in a game of interests.

Also, I think the West should have learnt that very serious mistakes were made in the previous Anglo-Russo alliance. So I suspect we'll go from the present cartoonish pro-Gay anti-Putinism to a reenactment of a short-sighted, blind-faith alliance with the Kremlin. That is, the official line will move from being anti-Russian for all the wrong reasons to being irresponsibly pro-Russian.

About Trump, indeed he is breaking taboos, both in essence and in style. Yet, I think that is not necessarily a good thing if it is all a strategy to defuse the issue, and that's exactly what I think Obama did, for instance with his promise to close Guantanamo. He's doing to Rep hopes exactly what Obama did to Dem hopes. But maybe I got too cozy and too jaded with the heuristic "think shit of a politician and he'll still manage to disappoint you"... I don't remember it ever failing me before.

You're right, I'm not a US citizen. I do think that your nation has the potential to be greater than ever. I think that potential is way bigger than even the most hard-core patriots assume (because they misidentify national strengths). Yet, preposterously un-American as it may sound, I don't think that greatness will come through an election.

I was born on a small piece of land that was a part of the British Empire on three different occasions and was where the US Navy's first admiral's father was born. Then I lived for many years in Catalonia (I recently wrote about that here http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/10/mailvox-catalonian-independence.html).

Anonymous Forrest Bishop December 07, 2015 2:00 AM  

@117. Antonio From Spain

@104. I don't dispute that the West (at least Europe) would better have Russia on its side. But I see a lot of enthusiasm for Putin's machoflash attitude and the pious Rodina's resurgence, and it doesn't match my experiences in Russia.

I'd 'vote' a Trump-Putin ticket any day, or Putin-Trump, or just Putin for alleged-US alleged-president. What is your take on Russia? Your past Catalonia comments are "best of", thank you.

OpenID iparallax December 07, 2015 2:49 AM  

What is the context of this video? An official Russian gov't publication? A formal political party? Some other movement?

Just curious. It's interesting all on its own, but knowing who's behind it would likely make it even more so.

Blogger Shimshon December 07, 2015 2:54 AM  

Russia may not be a good guy in this fight, but it is on the right side.

From where I sit, it seems like there is a more than a bit of mutual back-scratching between Russia and Israel.

Blogger Rambam December 07, 2015 2:59 AM  

For what it's worth, Ted Cruz' s wife works for
Goldman $aches

Blogger GJ December 07, 2015 3:36 AM  

This is correct. Trump has essentially become a blank slate on which they project their hopes and dreams to Make America Great Again.
Change we can believe in!

Blogger SciVo December 07, 2015 3:38 AM  

@ A Visitor: As I've said before, had he just left it at the 4th Amendment, he'd be a hero in my book.

Well, I disagree, since in order to make sure that our representatives are following our morality, we need to know what they're doing. It would be different if they were moral, but it turns out that they're authoritarian sociopaths, so we need to know everything.

Anonymous map December 07, 2015 3:39 AM  

Trump is an oligarch who wants to wage war against the other oligarchs. Maybe he is tired of not having his wealth capable of simply moving from place to place.

He sees the right-wing populism as a way of gaining power for that.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit December 07, 2015 3:55 AM  

@117

Yes. Jonah Goldberg had an excellent breakdown in one of his G-files on all La Trump's vileprog positions prior to his recent presidential campaign. They're sufficient that when one includes his Friend of Hilary status, I can't but think he's doing the Clinton's a favor. Perot got Clinton pere elected in the first go-round.

For my money, no candidate can be trusted until he's gone head-to-head with a Democrat ledislature (and complicit judiciary) and not folded or imploded. Which is why I am - or was - a Jindal/Walker gal.

That said, Mr. Trump has forced all the candidates to grow a spine, or pretend to long enough to make the campaign interesting. So, go, Trump.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite December 07, 2015 6:18 AM  

Perhaps modern Americans are too inward-looking to pay much attention to the Russian message.

It is to be hoped that Europeans respond differently.

Anonymous Quartermaster December 07, 2015 7:51 AM  

@91
Whatever floats your boat.

Blogger Nate December 07, 2015 8:14 AM  

"Read The Art of the Deal. Trump knows how to structure and cut a complex deal like nobody, how to schmooze, and, different from the others, how to present on TV."

Yeah I keep hearing what an amazing negotiator he is. From him.

And what I see... is him getting his ass handed to him in negotiations with CNN.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 07, 2015 8:32 AM  

Trump has essentially become a blank slate on which they project their hopes and dreams

Good thing that doesn't happen with other politicians.

Anonymous kfg December 07, 2015 9:24 AM  

"Trump is an oligarch who wants to wage war against the other oligarchs."

As the other oligarchs are waging war against The People, The People will either need a leader and a champion, or they're going to have to bloody well take up the fight entirely on their own behalf.

Which scenario do you think is the more likely?

Something to think about: at the time of the Boston Tea Party, the biggest tea dealer in the Northeast was . . . John Hancock.

Anonymous A Visitor December 07, 2015 9:30 AM  

@107 Thanks.

@117 Having never been to Russia, I'll take your word for it. Agreed about the previous alliance, as eastern Europe paid for that one for the next 40+ years and western Europe had the scourge of Communist terrorism and influence on it. I wouldn't say you got coy. There are some yuge similarities between Trump's campaign and Dear Leader's. Thanks for the compliment. It's hard at times to still believe we could carry on better than before (I chalk that one up to nearly 8 years of Dear Leader, his flagrant violations of the Constitution, and old Soviet agitprop tactics being used against us coupled with a lapdog media). Thanks for telling me a bit more about yourself. I lived in Madrid but did make it to Catalonia one weekend (Barç). One of my good friends that I shot archery with at Complutense was Catalan but had long since left the region for obvious reasons.

@123 We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't dispute your comment about how they're socipaths but much of what he took indeed deals with our legitimate intel capabilities vis a vis our country's adversaries.

Blogger Student in Blue December 07, 2015 9:32 AM  

@Nate
What most don't get is I don't actually have an anti trump position. I am deeply skepitical of the man but no more than most other politicians. And yes... he's a politician.

[...]For example... almost all trumpsters think they support him because of immigration. In reality that isn't true. If it were true... there are other candidates that are just as good as Trump if not better.


It's okay to be skeptical. As for him being a politician... eh, if he's really a politician by heart (by heart, because arguing whether or not he's involved in politics whatsoever is pointless) I'm doubtful because he wouldn't be saying even half of the stuff he says. He's a personality, not a politician.

But seriously, *who* else has built almost their entire platform on immigration and stopping it, and has talked it up so heavily besides Trump? You speak as if Trump hadn't been there, there would still be a plethora of politicians talking about immigration. That's ridiculous.

Seriously, who are these people you're talking about which are just as good on immigration?

Blogger Markku December 07, 2015 9:39 AM  

The question is, is Donald America's trump card?

...or mere trumpery?

*drumroll*

Blogger Nate December 07, 2015 9:48 AM  

"But seriously, *who* else has built almost their entire platform on immigration and stopping it, and has talked it up so heavily besides Trump?"

That's just it. Trump didn't do that. Trump to one contraversial position, and it was only contraversial with the media, and then stood by it when the crybullies showed up to call him racist.

until that moment he was nothing. He was a side show.

I mean at this point you're reduced to the levels of a Ron Paul fan. Would we be talking about sound money if it wasn't for Ron Paul?

Look at yourself. have you looked at yourself? look at yourself.

Trump says something stupid... you ignore it and say "only immigration matters."

X candidate is better than trump on immigration... you ignore it and say "he can't win so it doesn't matter."

So you literally contradict your own stated dogma.

The fact is you like Trump because he pisses off the people you don't like.

And that's it. That's the whole of it.

Blogger Student in Blue December 07, 2015 10:25 AM  

Nate, that wasn't a rhetorical question. Who *else* is as anti-immigration as Trump?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2015 11:02 AM  

@53 Hammerli280

Good point. A lot of older (40+) conservatives are so accustomed to the Soviet threat that we have to force ourselves to remember that the USSR ceased to exist a quarter-century ago.
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I admit this is a big problem for me. So at best, a wary consideration at this point.

Blogger lge December 07, 2015 11:34 AM  

Well, they're a little acerbic & sarcastic. But this is talk from grown-ups, not from the fatuous nitwits who lead us and tell us what to think.

Once, we could have been friends with Russia. I always heard, "It's not the Russian people who are our enemy, it's communism." Then when the U.S.S.R. collapsed, our government went on being as intractable as ever, treating Russia as our enemy. No effort at rapprochement was made. Too bad.

Putin is a more normal person than Mussolini for Morons.

Blogger bob k. mando December 07, 2015 11:36 AM  

10. ar10308 December 06, 2015 4:46 PM
Islam is a wholly alien beast.




and there it is:
the conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories.

War of the Worlds was published in 1897. people at the inter/national level regularly wax rhapsodic about the possibility of "aliens invading" so that the world would unite against the 'other'.

http://business.time.com/2011/08/16/paul-krugman-an-alien-invasion-could-fix-the-economy/

Q - who has made importing all of these muslims a virtue signal?
A - Cultural Marxists

Q - who controls the Cultural Marxists?
A - the universities have been ideologically controlled by crypto-Marxists being issued orders directly from the Kremlin since at least the 1920s. that's why FDR's administration was rotten with Sov agents.

Q - so ... the 'chess move' ( the intellectual game most beloved by the Russ ) attack would be to artificially create an "alien threat", directed by the Soviet, to which the 'reasonable' alternative is a national leader who is ... a former member of the KGB?

remember, Islam has been at war with the world ( Dar al Harb ) for 1500 years. the current situation ( widespread importation of Islamics throughout the West ) is wholly artificial and COULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED without the overt participation of the globalists ... who are run by the marxists.


every. single. act. that Obama takes looks designed to make Putin look like the rational actor, the 'safe' alternative to America ... who is going to drone bomb your wedding party if you don't behave.

how insane does the US have to act ( creating ISIL, then pretending to fight ISIL, then allowing allies such as Turkey to commit acts of war against nations [ Russia ] which actually are damaging ISIL ) before it becomes socially acceptable to the rest of the planet to nuke the fuck out of us?


how many shipping containers arrive from China to the US every day? in every ocean port? on all coasts, from the Pacific to the Atlantic, from the Gulf to the Great Lakes?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2015 12:41 PM  

@136 lge

Putin is a more normal person than Mussolini for Morons.
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Putin was also KGB. That's hard to forget.

Blogger Danby December 07, 2015 12:50 PM  

@136 lge
Once, we could have been friends with Russia. I always heard, "It's not the Russian people who are our enemy, it's communism." Then when the U.S.S.R. collapsed, our government went on being as intractable as ever, treating Russia as our enemy. No effort at rapprochement was made. Too bad.

It's worse than that. When the Soviet state finally collapsed, along with the soviet economy, the begged us for help. They had no-on who knew how to build a market economy.
So we sent them ... Jewish business and economics faculty from Harvard and Goldman Sachs. Who promptly collapsed the economy, sold the natural resources off to their friends for centimes on the Krugerrand, plundered several billion dollars for themselves, bond the country in economic misery, and left.
You ever hear of the Russian Oligarchs? The Russians wouldn't let the whiz kids sell Russian resources to non-Russians, so they sold them to the most vile, contemptible sort of government operatives that Russia had, most of them Jewish.
Hell, at one time Yukos had both Kissinger and Rothschild on the board of directors.
So, when they asked for help, we robbed them, raped them, and sold them in slavery to the worst possible sorts. People were literally dying of starvation in Russia in those years, but we must make sure that Lord Rothschild gets his cut.

Anonymous Quartermaster December 07, 2015 1:07 PM  

@76
Russia had already come to terms with losing the Crimean ports. Construction of a Naval base had begun at Novorossiysk. Maintaining the Crimean bases was not the issue.

There are signs of oil and gas beneath the Black Sea bade around Crimea and exploration contracts were being let. Russia couldn't afford to allow it's economic colony to obtain domestic sources for oil and gas.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 07, 2015 1:57 PM  

@118 Forrest Bishop To begin with, I disagree with Vox’s idea that Russians “have already been through their dark night. They have already survived their great test of godlessness.” BTW, I am not claiming that they have a monopoly in nastiness.

Like I said above, symbols about that aberrant era are still prominent in the most public places in Moscow. The lyrics to their anthem has changed, but not the music. Aeroflot today still uses the hammer and sickle. The photograph of the abusive spouse still presides the living room, the victim hasn’t even begun healing. Russians are most definitely not over their “great test of godlessness”. Russia’s sad, long, and lonely “dark night” of nightmares has merely begun, if that. They have not acknowledged what they did to Eastern Europe, let alone themselves.

An anecdotic minority in the West have gone to the extreme of public humiliation over white guilt, Russians en masse are at the other extreme. They are in paralyzing denial. Some in the Game community use the concept of alpha ghost to refer to the long-lasting effect of an encounter with a harsh character. If only the bad boy would come again and just add a few shades of grey to this postmodern angst… Many in the West interpret this hero-worship as a sign of vigorous self-confidence. I don’t.

You don’t just close down an oppressive regime the way you close down a business. It leaves deep nasty scars. The idea that these scars can be washed away in a mere quarter of a century is dangerously mistaken. A single individual who was methodically traumatized does not get over it in two decades. A nation that was methodically traumatized over three generations needs generations to heal. The Russians have not even started. In the West it’s been a long, long time since we last thought about a generations-long national process, so we are blind to what Russia is facing.

Far more importantly, in the West we have no personal experiences that come close to the enormity of that intimate trauma. It doesn’t register because the closest we’ve seen is by reading some literature and watching some childishly watered-down movies. (And the Obamista pretension that they should get more gay-friendly and let our fiat economy fuck them over only exacerbates their inclination to raise their shields and ramp up the anti-Western rhetoric.) And so the issue remains unaddressed. Few things could be worse than methodical trauma, but society-wide unaddressed methodical trauma is one of them.

Second, I don’t agree with this idea that Russia is on the right side. The Western leaders support one subset of Islam, the Russian leader another. Even if one of these two leaderships were to change sides, it would still be a de facto alliance with a subset of Islam. And it’s the same old story again, and again. We arm them, we protect them, we finance them, they grow and learn about our weaknesses, then they strike… against us.

Third, one may say “I know they are messed up, but still the enemy of my enemy, right? And that doesn’t mean I need to like them.” Very true, but you need to trust them to some very significant degree if an actionable plan of alliance is to be implemented. Understand your enemy is something we haven’t quite mastered yet. Understand your ally is something we love to overlook. To begin with, because we say “ally” but we mean tool, not brother-in-arms. We haven’t gotten to understand the Russians as would-be allies because we’ve never cared to understand Russians at all to begin with. And that’s because we don’t care about them, of which they are painfully aware (which does not mean that they understand us much better than we them).

Fourth, an alliance with them, as I said above, may very well be in our interest. But that requires a serious understanding of them which right now is absent among both Obamistas and Western Putinists.

Profound mutual misunderstanding is “deadly terrain” on which to build an alliance, even if we’re really hoping for just a quickie.

Blogger Danby December 07, 2015 2:11 PM  

Shorter Antonio:
"We must always be at war with Eastasia." We can never be at peace because they are demons and always will be.

And when did Eastern Orthodoxy become a sect of Islam?

Blogger Danby December 07, 2015 2:13 PM  

Besides, you know, Antonio, it wasn't much longer ago, only about 8 years, that Spain was still ruled by the Fascists. Are we ever allowed to get past that and start treating the Spanish as allies?

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 07, 2015 2:35 PM  

@142 Hahaha, so "an alliance with them, as I said above, may very well be in our interest" is translated as "We must always be at war with Eastasia."

That's some shit level trolling.

Blogger bob k. mando December 07, 2015 2:46 PM  

142. Danby December 07, 2015 2:11 PM
And when did Eastern Orthodoxy become a sect of Islam?



he's not talking about the Orthodox Church Danby, he's talking about the Communist proxy states in the Middle East ... which, of necessity, have a large muslim component.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party

Blogger Danby December 07, 2015 3:21 PM  

Fair enough. I guess my eyes glazed over about halfway through the 1000 word screed. Seriously, Antonio, try some rhetoric sometime.
No-one is saying "Trust Putin." They are saying "Putin is much more trustworthy than the people who run our countries." And we should be allying with Putin, or at least Russia, which these days amount to the same thing.
for a look inside Putin's thought, I can recommend "In the First Person".
What came through for me was that Putin is a man who genuinely loves his people and his country and wants to make them great and prosperous. Would that we had people who felt the same leading anywhere in the West.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 07, 2015 3:45 PM  

@146.

Obama's attitude towards ISIS is pretty much Putin's towards Hamas. Putin is siding with one group of Islamists. Obama with another. They are mirror images much like most main parties in the West are two sides of the same coin. Agreeing on which Islamist to support is not a real solution. It's the same old kicking the can of the proxy war. It's the Taifas all over again, we've been there before. There are few examples of successfully pushing back Islam, that is not one.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop December 07, 2015 3:51 PM  

@141. Antonio From Spain

Thank you, Antonio. The value add is in your different perspective, regardless of whether Danby and I agree with it. Your description of Catalonia reads more like 15th Century Venice than Libertopia.

From here, Putin looks like Marcus Aurelius compared to the alleged US president whatsitsname. (I've tried to get him on the US ticket since 2008 even though he's from Russia, not Kenya.) There isn't ever going to be a god-like philosopher-king in this world. We have to accept what is possible.

Blogger Doctor Awesome December 07, 2015 3:55 PM  

I'd like to reiterate @4's and @119's questions: does anyone have more context for this? Who made it? Is it just on the internet or has it been aired on TV anywhere?

I tried following the logo at the beginning. Searching "c#tb" (which I think is incorrect anyways) gives me a Russian film company, CTB (http://ctb.ru/en/). I don't think that's them as they use a different logo. A google image search of the logo turned up nothing useful.

Blogger dfordoom December 07, 2015 4:10 PM  

@65. Quartermaster

If Russia wants any help, either economic or military, then get out of Ukraine (that includes Crimea)and quit threatening your neighbors.

Saying that Russia should get out of the Crimea is like saying the US should get out of Texas. Crimea became part of Russia in 1783. That's about 60 years longer than Texas has been part of the US.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian December 07, 2015 4:13 PM  

@85 I mean look... we're being swamped with these new commenters..

Usually the rule for that is to haze the hell outta 'em.

Just means it is getting target rich around here.

Anonymous Quartermaster December 07, 2015 4:27 PM  

@150
Crimea was turned over to Ukraine because the Russians didn't want to mess with Tatars anymore. To compare Texas and Crimea is a comparison beyond stupid.

As I pointed out, they had already come to terms with the loss, but the possibility of oil and gas under the Black Sea inspired the theft.

Blogger Danby December 07, 2015 4:32 PM  

@Antonio,
Putin is playing the Game for the benefit of Russia and the Russian people. Who is "our" side playing for the benefit of? I'm pretty sure the Spanish government and the EU are not interested in the benefit of Spain, and I KNOW that the US government policy has nothing to do with benefiting Americans.

Blogger Danby December 07, 2015 4:46 PM  

@152 Quartermaster
Crimea was turned over to Ukraine because the Russians didn't want to mess with Tatars anymore. I'm not sure how you could be more historically or demographically illiterate.
Virtually no Ukrainians live in Crimea, only about 20% of the population. It's mostly Russians with a few Crimean Tartars. The Crimean Tartars were actually expelled to Uzbekistan during WWII, and essentially did not exist in Crimea at the time of the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine. They were only allowed to return in the '70s, and even today only make about 10-15% of the population.

Blogger rumpole5 December 07, 2015 9:55 PM  

ROW to hoe. As in taking the weeds out of a row of corn (with a hoe).

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 2:05 AM  

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Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 2:06 AM  

@50 Doom

You haven't been to Russia since the Warsaw Pact broke up, have you....

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 2:11 AM  

@55

On my visits to Russia, I was surprised to find that the most popular political figure among the populace of St. Petersburg is none other than Ronald Reagan.

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 2:48 AM  

@100

Those kids aren't Communists. They utterly DESPISE Communism to the very marrow of their bones.

The destruction of nations and national borders is part and parcel of Communism, AKA INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM. They were born under Communism, they've heard all of their older relatives talk about how terrible it was, how there were constant shortages of everyday goods, leading to binge buying of things you didn't even need, just because they might not be available when you did need them, which perpetuated the binge buying even once steady supplies of household items were coming in from the West....

Go VISIT Russia sometime, and educate yourself. I suggest during June. Yes, rates are higher, but believe me, you'll learn more about Russia if you go during June.

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 3:00 AM  

@105

Concerning Russians and strongmen.. the Russians have a saying which explains much:

"It is good that our leaders are so harsh on us, because they will be cruel to anyone who attacks us."

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 3:16 AM  

@110 @111

Really? Trumpsters don't know why they support him, other than vague feelings about immigration?

Among those who are still in the race, who has stated that he wants to stem the flow of immigrants, and has stated concretely what do do about it?
Who else has stated that border infrastructure must be built and can be built and that the only reason it hasn't been built is lack of will (i.e. deliberate fiddling on Congress while Rome burns).

And who else has specifically talked about deportation, and reviving Operating Wetback?

Answer: NOBODY.

I support Trump PRECISELY because he is the ONLY one who has talked about the problem in a concrete manner, and about SOLUTIONS in a concrete manner.

What does Cruz offer? Bland platitudes about illegal immigration being bad, mmmkay...

Rubio ... part of the Gang of 8 amnesty plan. Paul... Libertardian open borders (with no stipulation that the open borders idea can't possibly work in a country which offers welfare, especially overly generous welfare like what we have.)

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 3:41 AM  

@143

Novorossisk? Not nearly as good, temperature-wise, as the Crimean Peninsula. Crimea has only 3 months of below-0 C temps, whereas Novorossisk has 5.

Blogger Akulkis December 08, 2015 3:52 AM  

@155

"Crimea was turned over to Ukraine because the Russians didn't want to mess with Tatars anymore. To compare Texas and Crimea is a comparison beyond stupid."

Wrong. Crimea was turned over to Ukraine because Kruschev was an idiot. How much of an idiot? So much of an idiot that even the Politburo couldn't hide his idiocy any longer, and ran him out of office. He is the ONLY leader of the Soviet Union who didn't die in office or (as what happened to Gorbechev) discover that the Soviet Union had been dissolved while he was asleep [irony: while he was on vacation in the Crimea!]

Anonymous The Kulak December 09, 2015 4:13 PM  

Akulkis already covered the Crimea waterfront fairly well in jousting with Quartermaster, who sounds like an old Cold Warrior whose grasp of Eastern European history is essentially 'Germans but especially Russians robbing, raping and pillaging leaving nothing behind.' I was pleasantly surprised to see the Russia hate seems to have cooled considerably, now that reality has sunk in with the Russians display of high tech firepower in Syria that if they'd wanted to be in Kiev by now, they could have, but they clearly don't.

But here are a few questions for my Finnish, Polish and other friends:

1) While the 'Christ between two thieves' narrative of modern Polish history is firmly rooted in truths, do Poles learn about the interwar dictatorship of Józef Piłsudski and his successors signing a non-aggression pact with Hitler before the USSR did? How about taking that little chunk of Czechoslovakia as part of the Munich agreement? Do Poles learn about how the government locked up Ukrainian nationalists to which the OUN responded with terrorism and later, ethnic cleansing and the mass murder of 80,000-100,000 Poles? Do all Polish patriots believe the Kiev regime's glorification of UPA killers ought to be swept under the rug for the sake of a united front against Vlad the Bad and being good NATOist vassals today? Because somehow I don't see that, I see a growing number of Polish nationalists who recognize without the EU(SSR) there would be neither the German pressure to settle large numbers of Muslims in their country nor the neo-Banderite problem and influx of desperate Ukrainian illegals from the oh so proud (and once Polish) region of Lvov on the other side.

2) Markku and other Finns -- no doubt your ancestors had the right to kill Soviet Red Army invaders coming into their country, which was conceded independence by the 'good Tsar' Alexander. But do Finns know that their army helped Hitler starve to death over a million and a half Leningraders, including Vladimir Putin's older brother and nearly starved mom?

3) Quartermaster and other Cold Warriors -- do you guys know that the vast majority of Ukrainians fought for the Red Army or with Soviet partisans against the Nazis, while the current Ukraine regime backed by the U.S. glorifies the Nazi collaborators and promotes the bulls--t myth that the UPA 'fought both the Nazis and Soviets'? Or do you think that's all 'Soviet propaganda' and the Polish Catholic historians who documented Ukrainian Banderite crimes were all on the KGB or post USSR SVR payroll?

In short, the version of Eastern European history that absolves all the peoples between Germany and Russia of agency and glosses over a lot of inconvenient details (particularly if you care about mass murder of Jews and Poles during WWII by non-German actors or Ukrainian Nazis) matters.

Blogger Mindstorm December 10, 2015 9:38 AM  

@10 ar10308 wrote:
While both the Nazis and Communists left a wake of horror and destruction in their paths, they at least preserved the culture around them.

Oh, really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pabst_Plan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jaxa_Brakteat.JPG
Two examples to the contrary.

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