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Saturday, December 05, 2015

Cucks show their true colors

What is the color for "anti-American" anyhow?
One of Florida’s biggest conservative Republican moneymen — and a billionaire backer of Jeb Bush — is so disgusted by Donald Trump’s candidacy that if he has to, he’ll do the unthinkable:

“If I have a choice — and you can put it in bold — if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary,” Miami healthcare magnate Mike Fernandez told the Miami Herald on Friday. “She’s the lesser of two evils.”

Outraged by Trump’s unimpeded ascent, Fernandez is taking on the GOP frontrunner himself. He purchased a full-page ad in the upcoming Sunday edition of the Herald calling Trump a “narcissistic BULLYionaire with a hunger to be adored.” He also likened him to some of history’s bloodiest demagogues.

“You have no idea how furious I am with my friends in the Republican Party who have embraced this guy,” Fernandez said.

Fernandez, who also plans to run the ads in Des Moines and Las Vegas newspapers on Dec. 14, said he didn’t notify the Bush campaign of his plans. Fernandez was the single highest donor to the political committee backing Bush, Right to Rise USA, as of the last financial disclosure report at the end of June. His contribution: more than $3 million.

“My frustration is really with that sector of Republican voters that are so blinded by the demagoguery” of Trump, Fernandez said. “I know the campaign — or any other campaign — is not going to say it.... This is not about Jeb. This is about us. This is about the voter.”
Yeah, tell us again how "conservative" you are. He's so conservative that he's become a billionaire by leeching off the federal government; that's the only way to make money as a "health care magnate".

But this sort of announcement should help Trump far more than it hurts him. After all, if the big money men in the Republican Party hate him so much, that's got to appeal to the working class vote in both parties.

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Blogger Danby December 05, 2015 12:01 PM  

There's a traditional American name for this type; Mugwump

OpenID Jack Amok December 05, 2015 12:02 PM  

I'm sure the liberals who rail against the Koch brothers will be attacking Fernandez any minute.

Blogger Maple Curtain December 05, 2015 12:03 PM  

These "conservative" billionaire rent-seekers who made their money from a symbiotic relationship with big government actually believe that: a/ they are "businessmen;" and b/ that what is good for billionaire rent-seekers is good for Americans.

The human capacity for self-delusion is boundless.

Anonymous Dan December 05, 2015 12:05 PM  

Fernandez must have been promised good things in a Jeb Bush presidency.

Blogger Dave December 05, 2015 12:05 PM  

You know when your own party starts the Hitler namecalling, you're message is getting through.

Blogger Krul December 05, 2015 12:07 PM  

"Fernandez" you say?

Anonymous 27 year old December 05, 2015 12:07 PM  

well that's funny senor taco, because if i have to choose between hillary and anyone other than trump, i'll be supporting hillary

Anonymous Fran December 05, 2015 12:08 PM  

im shocked

Blogger Krul December 05, 2015 12:10 PM  

OT: Vox, I see "Lord Valentine's Castle" in the booklist over there. If it's convenient, I'm curious to read your opinion on it.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 12:11 PM  

[sarcasm on]
He'll vote for Clinton... I'm shocked...I'm utterly and truly shocked!
[sarcasm off]

We're in a class war. It's time to gain class consciousness. It's the crony class (and their controlled dependent class) against the middle/working class.

The Cronies can't compete. That's why they rig the system to enrich themselves and to hold you down. The serfs will be prevented from rising above their station in life. The serf cannot and will not be allowed the ability to accumulate capital. No, their capital formation will be made as difficult as possible (taxes) and anything they do manage to accumulate will be debased (fiat currency).

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 05, 2015 12:13 PM  

It's quite true, as far as I'm concerned, that Trump is not reliably conservative in any sense of the term.

But...

Hillary? He might as well have said Sanders for all that it helps his credibility. This is not the way to go about this. If this guy was actually conservative, he ought to have looked for a Republican who might be able to match Trump's appeal. Like Cruz. But instead, he threatens to go for Hillary.

So I'm definitely with Vox on this: this guy has no business calling himself conservative. If anything, he's a liberal who doesn't think too hard about his politics.

I think Trump has strayed too near to European far-right hypernationalism on a few occasions, but I have noticed that reporters keep trying to recast much more justifiable things he has said this way. "Making a mountain range out of a couple of molehills", more or less.

I have no particular beef with rich people, but this is the kind of thing that is really hoping that Trump wins something in the Republican primary. I've said before that I'd really like to see a Cruz/Trump ticket, and this becomes a more appealing vision by the day.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 05, 2015 12:17 PM  

Thanks Leo you make me look that much better

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery December 05, 2015 12:17 PM  

Leo - Trump has strayed too near to European far-right hypernationalism

You can never be too rich, too handsome, or too nationalist.

Blogger Steve Sky December 05, 2015 12:17 PM  

And this is a surprise why? I read a couple of weeks ago that if Trump got the nomination, the GOPe would support Hillary, just like they do when a Tea Party candidate gets a Republican nomination in place of the GOPe candidate. He's merely stating personally, what was stated as GOPe policy.

4. Dan - Yes, and he's not the only one I believe that of.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 12:18 PM  

@11
Cruz is an opportunist. He's also pro-war.


Blogger Cecil Henry December 05, 2015 12:19 PM  

We have a grossly hostile elite. As if on cue, see this:

Loretta Lynch Vows to Procecute Those Who use ‘Anti-Muslim’ Speech That ‘Edges Toward Violence’ By James Barrett, Daily Wire, December 4, 2015

Let that sink in. The “greatest fear” of the nation’s chief law enforcement officer is not Islamic terrorism carried out against Americans.

Instead, her “greatest fear” is “anti-Muslim rhetoric” in the United States. That’s rather astonishing when you sit back and consider it.


The agenda is to destroy a nation #WhiteGenocide. ANYTHING that threatens that goal will be attacked, but nothing else. Evil

Blogger Ceasar December 05, 2015 12:21 PM  

This just shows that anyone in or relying upon the current government / establishment cannot be trusted to do the right [sane] thing. All of these chods will fight to the death to protect what they have and the deals they have made with other establishment types. Its a good part of the reason these losers keep pushing gun control to offset their fears of the 'regular' people finding out they and their tax money have been used to enrich them and will want their "reparations" or "payback" the old fashion way.

Blogger Crude December 05, 2015 12:22 PM  

These are the same people who demanded Republicans shut up and support candidates like Arlen Specter, because it's so important to put disagreements behind us for the sake of party unity.

OpenID paworldandtimes December 05, 2015 12:25 PM  

-- "if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary”

Heh. Before Trump came on the scene I was saying that I'll take Hillary as the lesser evil over jeb bush.

PA

Anonymous Mike December 05, 2015 12:33 PM  

Let's not badmouth actual conservatives. The reason for the popularity of the term "cuckservative" is that it reveals the Israel-First, pro-war, any-war, big-government Republicans for what they really are -- SJWs in conservative clothing.

Yes, they may think they're conservatives, and loudly call themselves conservative, but then, Rachel Swirsky calls herself a "writer."

Anonymous O.C. December 05, 2015 12:37 PM  

> What is the color for "anti-American" anyhow?

As in many species there is significant variation in coloration and patterning between individuals, ranging from flamboyant lavender, to solid red, and even sometimes to a deep cyanotic blue, but the consistent identifying characteristic is a broad yellow streak that runs from the back of the skull to the base of the tail.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 05, 2015 12:38 PM  

@15

Trump is an opportunist. And I have no problem with a pro-war President. When was the last time anything good happened under an anti-war President?


@12

Not sure what you mean.


@13

I don't mind rich or handsome, and I don't actually mind nationalist either.
Europe has a particular strain of nationalism that crops up occasionally that I don't like. By this I don't mean anti-immigration - while I don't think that's necessarily a good idea, I also don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to reduce immigration. You could definitely make the case that we've had a lot of immigration for a long time, so maybe now is a good time to stop "eating" and "digest" all the immigrants we've got for a while, before we let any more in.
I differ with Vox on the case for free trade, so Trump talking about ending NAFTA doesn't exactly endear me to him.

But, again, I'm definitely warming to the idea of "elect Trump just to piss off the PC crowd and the media". He would be a worthwhile petard to hoist them upon. And the fact that they are so flummoxed by all their own failed attacks on him is really warming my heart.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 12:40 PM  

Our only hope is class consciousness and populism.

The crony elites have opened the borders in an effort to destroy the global middle-classes. They're using the Mohammadians and Third World populations as storm troopers against native populations (just like they've been using the blacks for decades in the US). It's divide, rule, and plunder.

Anonymous 11B December 05, 2015 12:41 PM  

As someone who backed Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul and now Trump, I am getting tired of my side always having to pledge to back the eventual GOP nominee as proof of our bona fides. Yet the same leaders and talking heads who tell us we must all rally around the nominee openly state that if our guy actually wins the nomination, not only will they not support him they will actually vote against him.

It seems the GOP spirit of coming together to back the nominee only applies when it's their nominee. If that is the case, then why on earth would any Buchanan, Paul, Trump supporter even consider voting GOP, unless of course our guy was the nominee?

Blogger Shimshon December 05, 2015 12:43 PM  

He could have chosen to give to Clinton and keep his big mouth shut. Opening his mouth is going to backfire in his stated goal. Which means he is every bit the narcissist that he accuses Trump of being.

This election looks like it's going to much more entertaining than any election ever. And in some ways, the most clarifying.

Anonymous p-dawg December 05, 2015 12:47 PM  

The "lesser of two evils" is still evil. Voting for evil, for any reason, is evil.

Anonymous Scintan December 05, 2015 12:53 PM  

Anyone who tells you that Hillary is a lesser even in comparison to any current candidate who is even remotely electable is someone who's political opinions you can ignore in the future.

So add this guy to the list.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 12:53 PM  

@22 "When was the last time anything good happened under an anti-war President?"

Surely you jest. When has the deaths and maiming of young men in war not been in vain? I'm sure any seriously considered and compiled list would be a short one indeed. Furthermore, you seem to possess a curious definition of "good". I would think that the mere absence of "bad" could be considered a "good". And war is more than just quite often a "bad".

Best of luck in your service to your country. Where are you stationed?

Anonymous Scintan December 05, 2015 12:54 PM  

Post 27 should read lesser evil, not lesser even.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2015 12:55 PM  

I notice that he doesn't complain about any of Trump's actual positions, but just calls him names.

Presumably a devout Republican would have voted for any of the other Republican candidates over a Democrat. He might have his preference, but when it came down to the general election, he'd throw his support behind the party's choice. That's just how it works with the party faithful.

So what has Trump said or done that puts him so far outside the pale, that you could be satisfied voting for Bush, Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Paul, Fiorina, or many others, but not Trump -- and not even refuse to vote for him, but throw your support to the Dems?

There is nothing. Heck, most of what I see from anti-Trump commenters here says that he's too much like a mainstream Republican, and just pretending to be an outsider with radical views.

Mass immigration is really, really important to these people, even more than we realized before. It's one of the hills they're willing to die on.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2015 12:57 PM  

But, again, I'm definitely warming to the idea of "elect Trump just to piss off the PC crowd and the media".

If you ever declare your unreserved support for Trump, we'll know it's over for him.

Anonymous A Visitor December 05, 2015 12:57 PM  

@1 Thanks for teaching us a new world (not being sarcastic)!

I read his ad in its entirety. Among other things he mentions being an immigrant and serving in the military, probably an attempt to prove right wing bona fides.

He says, " I'm just a freaking immigrant so nobody will listen to me." Your butthurt and attempted shaming by immigrant sob claim is reason why first generation immigrants shouldn't be allowed to vote. I say that having an aunt who is first generation and a friend whose parents are refugees (Cold War era and now long since naturalized). All three vote Repub every time.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 05, 2015 12:58 PM  

@22 White Knight Leo #0368

How I solipsism much; let me count the 'I's'...

To quote a great philosopher, "we don't care".

Blogger Krul December 05, 2015 1:00 PM  

"Fernandez was the single highest donor to the political committee backing Bush, Right to Rise USA, as of the last financial disclosure report at the end of June. His contribution: more than $3 million."

This fucking idiot was so certain of Bush that he sank $3M into the campaign. Of BUSH.

I get why he's mad, but it's his own damn fault he bet on the wrong horse. Especially when the horse happened to be lame, blind, retarded, and drunk. How stupid do you have to be to think Jeb ever had a prayer, let alone betting millions of dollars on it?

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery December 05, 2015 1:01 PM  

Leo - But, again, I'm definitely warming to the idea of "elect Trump just to piss off the PC crowd and the media". He would be a worthwhile petard to hoist them upon. And the fact that they are so flummoxed by all their own failed attacks on him is really warming my heart.

I love guys like Trump - and Vox, and Roosh, and Milo - who make SJW's and cucks so upset they start angrily menstruating.

Do I agree with them on every pettifogging little wee tiny issue? Nah, but who cares?

Character is what counts.

Blogger tiarosa December 05, 2015 1:02 PM  

@15.

"Cruz is an opportunist."

Please elaborate.

Blogger Positive Dennis December 05, 2015 1:05 PM  

I can't think of an anti-war president.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 05, 2015 1:06 PM  

@28

Name an anti-war President under whose leadership America was actually in a good state.

Being pro-war is one of the President's jobs. It's okay for Congress to be anti-war, because they are the ones who authorize us to go to war. But the President is the one who has to lead our army. So an anti-war President is never a good idea.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 1:13 PM  

@36
It's difficult to explain the obvious to one who chooses to ignore it. I can only refer you to his ever evolving policy positions that tend to follow rather than lead the zeitgeist.

Anonymous karsten December 05, 2015 1:14 PM  

"I think Trump has strayed too near to European far-right hypernationalism on a few occasions"

That's his very best feature.

It's not that being pro-war that's the worst aspect of Cruz or all the other neocons (and let's face it, Cruz is ultimately a neocon and cuckservative). It's that their pro-wars on behalf of Israel.

This statement wins the thread:

"The reason for the popularity of the term "cuckservative" is that it reveals the Israel-First, pro-war, any-war, big-government Republicans for what they really are -- SJWs in conservative clothing."

Monday can't come around fast enough.

Blogger SteelPalm December 05, 2015 1:19 PM  

People on this blog talking up Trump over Cruz make me laugh.

Trump has the exact same positions as the Democratic Party in 1996, and was encouraged to run by none other than Bill Clinton. He has also waffled slightly on securing the borders.

Cruz is WAY more nationalist, anti-SJW, and hardcore than Trump is. He is also an extremely devoted Christian, which Trump is not.

Trump might be number two, but Cruz should be the number one candidate for readers of this blog by a country mile.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 1:20 PM  

@16 Cecil Henry

Loretta Lynch Vows to Procecute Those Who use ‘Anti-Muslim’ Speech That ‘Edges Toward Violence’ By James Barrett, Daily Wire, December 4, 2015

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Citizens, it is now time to dust off the pitchforks and torches.

Anonymous Homesteader December 05, 2015 1:21 PM  

My litmus test is now tribal-is it/them good/bad for the white stock that built this nation? Are they against immivasion? Are they for us, our families, our communities?

In this, I have become as nepotistic as our Ashkenazim brethren, as blood-minded as LaRaza, as taqqiya-minded as CAIR in the presence of our enemies.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 1:23 PM  

@37
A sad statement. However I would offer Harding, Coolidge, Cleveland, Buchanan, Pierce, Fillmore, Tyler & Van Buren as possibilities. We don't read much about them I suppose because historians tend to be bloodthirsty lot (IMO).

Anonymous BGS December 05, 2015 1:23 PM  

If anything, he's a liberal who doesn't think too hard about his politics.

If anything he liberally bribes republicans for big crony payouts.

He could have chosen to give to Clinton and keep his big mouth shut. Opening his mouth is going to backfire in his stated goal.

Its good to have stupid enemies but disappointing to see someone so stupid so high up the ladder in "healthcare", but then again is he more ethical than those that buy lists of Alzheimer's patients to call with sales pitches.

Cruz is WAY more nationalist, anti-SJW, and hardcore than Trump is.

Nationalist =/= More H1B visas, which one is married to a GoldManSacks VP wife?

Blogger SteelPalm December 05, 2015 1:26 PM  

@40

I love how you would vote for a worse candidate that embodies far less of what you want just because the other candidate (horror of horrors!) supports Israel.

Even in the midst of the jihadi threat and invasion, dipshits like yourself can't let go of their Jew hatred. Didn't go so well for all the Jew-haters in Allied countries who were fans of Hitler (tens of millions ended up as corpses, far more than the number of Jew corpses, in fact), and won't go so well for the nationalists who hate "the Jooos" more than they hate and are concerned about Death Cultists.

The nationalists who are more reasonable (albeit possibly still disliking Jews), like Vox himself, will fare better.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2015 1:26 PM  

Crony Capitalist Cigar-American Cuck threatens to throw in with the Lizard Queen when Emperor Trump ascends to The Golden Throne? On the heels of Trump telling the jewish GOP power brokers to keep their money? On top of this?

STOP IT, TRUMP. IT IS BEGINNING TO HURT.

Blogger SteelPalm December 05, 2015 1:28 PM  

@45

Cruz has sought to limit H1B visas, not increase them. You're confusing him with current establishment shill and cuckservative Rubio. Granted they both have Cuban roots, but that's where the similarities end.

And I would be more worried that longtime limousine liberal and billionaire Trump will expand H1B visas...

Blogger Jack Ward December 05, 2015 1:29 PM  

I'm not furious with this person. Just filled with disgust. Heath care magnate, eh? I may have to look up his company[ies] and religiously avoid them.
We here, and many other places, are honored by the diversity [sarc] and vibrancy [sarc] of our many enemies. Enemies both domestic and foreign. Domestic in the form of our own government at most levels and our own suppose home party in the Republican 'cuck' establishment.
Bring it on Mike and, if its a fair election, watch us, hopefully, rejoice in a solid, meaningful, Presidency with Mr. Trump in the oval and, maybe, Ted Cruz just down the hall.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2015 1:31 PM  

Trump might be number two, but Cruz should be the number one candidate for readers of this blog by a country mile.

Please, ShillyPalm, tell us more about how we should think.

Anonymous 11B December 05, 2015 1:34 PM  

Name an anti-war President under whose leadership America was actually in a good state.

Dwight Eisenhower.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 1:38 PM  

Trump is now treading into Rock Star territory:

Trump signs womans chest

Anonymous um December 05, 2015 1:38 PM  

"When has the deaths and maiming of young men in war not been in vain?"

Whenever a country is invaded, the defending soldiers are not fighting in vain - even if they lose.

Anonymous Discard December 05, 2015 1:39 PM  

37. Positive Dennis: William McKinley for one. Opposed making war on Spain, but lacked the spine to face down the jingoists.

No doubt there were others, but who makes the history textbook for avoiding war?

Blogger BunE22 December 05, 2015 1:40 PM  

Link on Drudge: Liberty University President Urges Students to Arm Themselves

Heads must be 'splodin.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 05, 2015 1:42 PM  

Conservative, liberal, who cares?

He's an enthusiastic congregant of the Universalist Cathedral, in part because it's made him wealthy. His parasitism fuels his insulation from seeing reality.

If you use this lens to examine people's actions it really helps explain things.

Everything mainstream is committed to defending Cathedral Dogma. Only heretics embrace reality.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 1:43 PM  

@40 karsten

It's that their pro-wars on behalf of Israel.

This statement wins the thread:

"The reason for the popularity of the term "cuckservative" is that it reveals the Israel-First, pro-war, any-war, big-government Republicans for what they really are -- SJWs in conservative clothing."
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I got into a minor argument with someone in a comment section about Trump going to Israel sometime in the near future. I was saying, He needs to stay here. They were going on - Israel is our best ally in the region, blah blah blah.

I said, He's running for president of the US, not Israel. He needs to stay here.

*que the hamster wheels*

Maybe that was a Cuckservative.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 1:44 PM  

@41 SteelPalm

Trump might be number two, but Cruz should be the number one candidate for readers of this blog by a country mile.
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Oh yeah? What's a country mile in Canada or Cuba these days?

Blogger dc.sunsets December 05, 2015 1:47 PM  

This clown is an oligarch in an industry so closely connected to the Federal Government that it is essentially nationalized. Truly, he is the poster child for crony capitalist.

Any suggestion that he favors a less insane public policy regime is a rolling on the floor laugh.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) December 05, 2015 1:49 PM  

I can't think of an anti-war president.
Wilson, prior to being re-elected.

Anonymous BGS December 05, 2015 1:50 PM  

If you ever declare your unreserved support for Trump, we'll know it's over for him.

Bernie Sanders is now offering a free bag of dicks in every pot, I guess the PPGATE videos didn't faze him.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2015 1:55 PM  

Trump signs womans chest

Was signing my breast part of your plan?

Anonymous JI December 05, 2015 1:57 PM  

Fernandez is a Spanish surname. As a believer in Vox's theories regarding cultures other than the Enlightenment era English culture that created the United States, I am not at all surprised that someone of that culture puts Amnesty Uber Alles. I believe that is what he hates the most about Trump - the Fernandez's dwelling within the US put tribe over the country that has taken them in and encouraged them to profit.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 1:58 PM  

@61 praetorian
Trump signs womans chest

Was signing my breast part of your plan?
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YES!

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 05, 2015 1:58 PM  

Huh, a rent-seeker named Fernandez? Sniff Sniff. Yep, its conflict of interest alright.

I'll offer these guys a pro-tip. Free since I was once when I was very young a Limbaugh Republican.

All those people you are deriding and so afraid of are 3/4 of your base. You have done so little for this country, even the Donald who at least offers a little hope, probably false hope is better than you.

if you want to sit in the big chair and not have your party fall apart from inside, shut up and join up. Put your money with our mouths and between us we in fact might save America.

We might fail too but you'll go down swinging and not like a little bitch.

Of course you'll never see this advice but if you did, you wouldn't read it and if somehow you did, you won't do too it. As Upton Sinclair famously said "You can't teach a man something his job is not to know"

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 2:03 PM  

@46
The horror of horrors is actually criticizing - even in the most simple of ways - "Holy" Israel. I fully expect that all candidates have or will make the required trip Israel.

Blogger Josh December 05, 2015 2:07 PM  

It's not that being pro-war that's the worst aspect of Cruz or all the other neocons (and let's face it, Cruz is ultimately a neocon and cuckservative). It's that their pro-wars on behalf of Israel.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/when-it-comes-to-jewish-ties-no-gop-candidate-trumps-trump/

“I have a Jewish daughter. This wasn’t in the plan, but I’m very glad it happened,” Trump said at the event, held in Manhattan. On Israel, he said, “We love Israel. We will fight for Israel 100 percent, 1,000 percent. It will be there forever.”

Blogger Josh December 05, 2015 2:09 PM  

Name an anti-war President under whose leadership America was actually in a good state.

Calvin Coolidge, Grover Cleveland, Eisenhower...

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 2:09 PM  

@40

Well stated. However expect to be attacked and vilified.

Israel is a Jewish state with a wall to keep people out. Interesting isn't it?

Anonymous Philalethes December 05, 2015 2:10 PM  

@59:

I can't think of an anti-war president.
Wilson, prior to being re-elected.


Also Roosevelt (FDR), prior to his re-election in 1940.

Why do politicians lie? Why not? It works.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 2:14 PM  

@66
A candidate always has to kiss up to the most powerful constituency if he wants to be a US President.

Blogger Tom K. December 05, 2015 2:16 PM  

Interestingly, Ross Perot was NO Donald Trump. Perot made his billions off of federal contracts just like Fernandez.

Blogger Josh December 05, 2015 2:17 PM  

Interestingly, Ross Perot was NO Donald Trump. Perot made his billions off of federal contracts just like Fernandez.

How much money has Trump made off of eminent domain?

Blogger Tom K. December 05, 2015 2:20 PM  

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Blogger Robert Coble December 05, 2015 2:25 PM  

"This is about us. This is about the voter.” - Mike Fernandez

(Another missed opportunity: He could have said that it is about the "Chillrin.")

I guess that would be the only group of "voters" recognized by the GOPe - the 1% of the 1% who control who gets the nod to be the next Republican Presidential loser.

¿jeb? is NOT the 'droid we are searching for. I am encouraged that ¿jeb? is now down to 3% and sinking. How much longer can the cuckservative GOPe support this dolt? Oh, sorry, it seems obvious that having billions of dollars in personal wealth extracted from the "little people" with the aid and complicity of government is no impediment to stupidly continuing with "Stupid."

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 05, 2015 2:27 PM  

@Steelpalm= deaf and DUMB...eskimo

In other news, israeli settlers sue for health damages caused by......Bedouins aspiring to the european baking championships

Blogger Dexter December 05, 2015 2:34 PM  

Ross Perot was NO Donald Trump. Perot made his billions off of federal contracts just like Fernandez.

And the Clintons promised Perot many more contracts if he ran and split the GOP vote so that the Clintons could win.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 05, 2015 2:35 PM  

"...if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary,”

That's fair. I'd sworn if Jeb was the candidate I was voting for Hillary.

Admittedly, I can afford to be smug. There is now very little chance I will have to put my money where my mouth is now.

Poor Jeb! backers. Always the Bush they were never going to have.

Anonymous Dave December 05, 2015 2:45 PM  

@33 Rusty

How I solipsism much; let me count the 'I's'...

To quote a great philosopher, "we don't care".



I know, right?

Anonymous Dave December 05, 2015 2:59 PM  

@77 Cataline - "That's fair. I'd sworn if Jeb was the candidate I was voting for Hillary."

Just taking a guess here; one difference being you aren't a GOP establishment cuck throwing around $millions in campaign donations and buying full page ads against your own party.

Anonymous Rolf December 05, 2015 3:02 PM  

It other words, he's being open about the fact that he's interested in buying access, control of policy via donations. Well, that's good to know. They must be scared if they are willing to show their colors like that. And it's a campaign spot that writes itself for Trump.

I don't want Trump as president. But I don't want him less than I don't want all the "bought and paid for" others.

Anonymous A Visitor December 05, 2015 3:04 PM  

"Trump is now treading into Rock Star territory:

Trump signs womans chest"

Not making this up...she looks exactly like this Italian blogger I knew!

Anonymous HammerSix Actual December 05, 2015 3:14 PM  

Trump is drawing the disaffected, the folks of both parties who believe the country is off-track.

This is bad news for the bi-factional mafia - they are loosing control of the narrative.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-forges-new-blue-collar-coalition-among-republicans-1449272326

Anonymous totenhenchen December 05, 2015 3:15 PM  

It's interesting that of all the criticisms I have heard about Trump, being "out of touch" is not one of them.

Blogger haus frau December 05, 2015 3:32 PM  

Being pro-war is one of the President's jobs. It's okay for Congress to be anti-war, because they are the ones who authorize us to go to war. But the President is the one who has to lead our army. So an anti-war President is never a good idea.


Congratulations Leo. That's one of the most mind numbingly stupid things I've read in a long time. War for war's sake destroys lives and nations....for instance our nation now, being destroyed by pointless wars.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2015 3:37 PM  

Being pro-war is one of the President's jobs

Leo, would you mind getting into the oven to clean it?

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 05, 2015 3:39 PM  

Trump isn't conservative.....okay by me. Which "conservative" hasn't offered fellatio to Obama? Very few......so few in fact, that the Republican Party is actually dead, imo. I've voted R all my life......but it's difficult to tell the difference anymore.

Trump is a white nationalist. Straight up, in your face. That'll work. After seeing conservatives lined up on their knees, time after time, well, golly, they just might be bent that way.

So, here's the choice, as I see it. Cruz is my Senator, here in Texas. Thing is, he's no showman. Boring as shit. Ain't electable. Smart fellow, but he's not what the country needs.

WI'll Trump go off the deep end? Probably. But a man knows he's going to do the best for this country. Civil war is coming here, and Obama is hoping to b take advantage of that. This is my opinion.

Anonymous Minion #414 December 05, 2015 3:51 PM  

Nothing else matters if the border isn't closed and a wall erected.

Trump is the only choice.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2015 4:00 PM  

Cruz has sought to limit H1B visas, not increase them.

In 2013, Cruz submitted an amendment to the Gang of 8 amnesty that would have increased H-1Bs five-fold. He was still boasting about that as part of his strong support for legal immigration in April of this year. He appears to have come around quite a bit since then -- his grade at Numbers USA (where you can get details on those facts) was C+ the last time I checked it 3-4 months ago, and is now A-, the same as Trump's.

So, under pressure from Trump's campaign, a guy with bankster connections in the family and a history of pushing for more guest workers is claiming to have had an awakening on immigration even fresher than Trump's. Do you believe him, and think he won't soften back to his previous position, the one pushed by all his party's donors and elites, as soon as he's elected?

Or: if you don't believe Trump, why would you believe Cruz?

Blogger IsMishe December 05, 2015 4:12 PM  

Unexpectedly Trump rises in the polls.

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 05, 2015 4:13 PM  

I belive the whole H1-B visa situation is a way to get past all the worthless affirmative action graduates that are being produced. Would you hire a black woman to meet a quota? Perhaps someone on this list can explain it better.

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 05, 2015 4:13 PM  

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Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 05, 2015 4:45 PM  

White Knight Leo thinks the president is pro war because he's the guy that executes when war is joined.

Leo, I just want you to know I check up on what I need to think about every morning by reading your comments here. Gets me properly oriented for the dwy.

Anonymous Yes, we can elect trump December 05, 2015 4:49 PM  

Unexpectedly Trump rises in the polls.

Yes, we can!

Blogger David December 05, 2015 4:57 PM  

No more Bushes!! Or shrubberies, either.

"Ni !"

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2015 5:13 PM  

> Whenever a country is invaded, the defending soldiers are not fighting in vain - even if they lose.

So, the last war you would have supported was in 1812, I take it.

But from the comments from the GOP establishment, I take it that if Trump is the nominee this won't, in fact, be the "mostest important election evar". Wow, that would make it the first once since at least 1988 that wasn't.

Blogger Doc Rampage December 05, 2015 6:35 PM  

There is a difference between the neocon pro-war position and the conservative one. The neocon see the US as the world's policeman and a force for positive change. They want the US to go to war to do good.

The conservative position is that we should stop growing threats while they are still small. When the Russian empire was growing by inciting communist revolutions all around the world, the conservative position was to stop them indirectly by supporting the anti-communists forces.

Today the conservative position is that Islam is a growing threat and our response should be to try to stop it while it is still stoppable, and do so in other countries rather than our own.

You can see the difference in Egypt, Libya and Syria, where the neocons wanted to support the revolutions and the conservatives wanted to support the dictators.

We conservatives may have made a mistake over Iraq. We were angry about 9/11 and pissed off at the anti-war movement and France and we may have (probably did) supported a bad strategic decision there. But there is still a big difference between neocons and conservatives, and those of you throwing stones indiscriminately at anyone who supports Israel against the Islamic states are shooting potential allies in the back.

Unless your primary purpose is Jew-hatred. In that case then no, conservatives are not your allies.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2015 6:43 PM  

The conservative position is that we should stop growing threats while they are still small.

No. The conservative position is to stay out of the worlds business.

We conservatives may have made a mistake over Iraq.

What do you mean "we"?

Unless your primary purpose is Jew-hatred. In that case then no, conservatives are not your allies.

Ah, got it.

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 05, 2015 7:01 PM  

The thing I really like about Trump is that he's confident. Down here, we'd say he's got a real set of huevos. After having listened to way more Republicans than is good for me, there's only two who appeal......Trump and Cruz. That's it. If Bush had been the nominee, fuck that noise.

Anyways, I'm going with Trump. I reckon that this is going to be the last major election for the Republicans. Can anyone say "Calling the party of Whig?" I reckon that the electorate will swing hard right. With the whole "Obama is clearly a closeted Moslem" thing going on, imo.

Cruz is an intelligent man, but he doesn't have any snap, is the best way I can put it.

Blogger Doc Rampage December 05, 2015 7:26 PM  

@97 "No. The conservative position is to stay out of the worlds business."

You are confusing conservatism with isolationism. Isolationism is just as foolish and ignorant as leftwing peacenikism. It's based on the absurd idea that if we leave them alone they will leave us alone.

It's the idea that if there is a growing gang in your neighborhood that has started invading homes, murdering and raping then you should just protect your own home instead of joining with others to eliminate the gang. Sure, it will work as long as you are the strongest one, but eventually the gang is going to be strong enough to take you on. The right move is to wipe out the threat before it gets to that level.

Anonymous rienzi December 05, 2015 7:32 PM  

@95.: > Whenever a country is invaded, the defending soldiers are not fighting in vain - even if they lose.

"So, the last war you would have supported was in 1812, I take it."


Well, no, that would be 1861. DEO VINDICE!

Blogger Groot December 05, 2015 7:42 PM  

Trump says his pro-abortion sister would make ‘phenomenal’ Supreme Court justice

Maryanne Trump Barry, a federal judge, wrote a "heated judicial decision in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion."

Blogger Josh December 05, 2015 8:08 PM  

Trump says his pro-abortion sister would make ‘phenomenal’ Supreme Court justice

Maryanne Trump Barry, a federal judge, wrote a "heated judicial decision in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion."


Killing babies will only Make America Great Again

Blogger Lovekraft December 05, 2015 8:23 PM  

No one can double down like an sjw. Picking the champagne crowd over his own roots.

Blogger Danby December 05, 2015 8:31 PM  

@27 Scintan
Anyone who tells you that Hillary is a lesser even in comparison to any current candidate who is even remotely electable is someone who's political opinions you can ignore in the future.

Depends. Does Bush count as "electable"?

Blogger Danby December 05, 2015 8:51 PM  

Perhaps someone on this list can explain it better.
H1Bs are all about, and only about, keeping IT salaries low.
That's why they are so insisted on by Silicon Valley, etc. Hindis and Chinese will work for less, and importing them keeps downward pressure on wages. Since wages are virtually the only cost (something like 80%) in the software business, driving down wages is the only effective cost control.
They tried offshoring in the '90s, and found that they quickly lost control of the projects because the local managers would lie relentlessly and unashamedly about the status of the project. Virtually every large software project that was offshored was a complete, abysmal, and often company-ending failure.
So instead, they want to bring the cheap workers over here, with American and Americanized managers where they can keep an eye on everything.

Personally, I'd support H1B visas, if there were a provision that they must be paid 2x the going rate for American workers, plus double payroll tax. See how popular the program is then.

Blogger The Other Robot December 05, 2015 9:08 PM  

H1Bs are all about, and only about, keeping IT salaries low.

I have come to the conclusion that this is correct.

Moreover, many of them seem to think that throwing more bodies at complex problems will get things done quicker.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 9:21 PM  

@88 Cail Corishev

Or: if you don't believe Trump, why would you believe Cruz?
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One of the best things about Trump, he doesn't need their money.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 9:34 PM  

@101 Groot

Trump says his pro-abortion sister would make ‘phenomenal’ Supreme Court justice

Maryanne Trump Barry, a federal judge, wrote a "heated judicial decision in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion."
---

Are we not just a wee bit suspicious this is coming from Ramesh Ponnuru, an Indian Cuck at National Review?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2015 9:38 PM  

@106 The Other Robot


Moreover, many of them seem to think that throwing more bodies at complex problems will get things done quicker.
---

Yep. Throwing bodies is how they think they can reach their quarterly goals. And all most of them think about is the next quarter, which is another big issue with IT management.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 9:38 PM  

The two issues that are most important for the survival of our economic class:

1 End the Fed/establish sound currency or free market competing currencies
2 Close the borders and reestablish a rational immigration policy


The crony wealth global elites are opposed to both for obvious reasons.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2015 10:07 PM  

The unwashed multitudes are no threat to crony politically connected billionaires like Fernandez. But they are an economic threat to the honest working man.

Want to prevent a vote for Trump Fernandez? My price is a mere $5 million. You can afford that I'm sure.

Blogger ray December 05, 2015 10:27 PM  

He's pleased to send the nation from Obama to Hillary. Out of group-identity spite and some sort of personal inferiority, it appears. Comparing hairstyles and accounts to Trumpster?

Fernandez instead of funding repugnicants aren't you supposed to be trimming the hedges? . . . motor pool.

Barack Hussein's comments on Sunday should be educational.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2015 10:35 PM  

It's the idea that if there is a growing gang in your neighborhood that has started invading homes, murdering and raping then you should just protect your own home instead of joining with others to eliminate the gang.

It's an obviously fallacious metaphor: you are describing a local problem. When you scale that thinking up naively, you get things like the war on drugs: ineffective, horribly invasive for average citizens (banking laws, etc.) and an excuse to grow leviathan.

I mean, it is the stupid party and all, but would it hurt to read some Taft and Kirk?

Anonymous IncoherentM December 05, 2015 10:37 PM  

Eagerly awaiting the Monday email. Having just finished the excellent Grow Or Die, I'm ready for another Castalia release.

Anonymous IncoherentM December 05, 2015 10:40 PM  

Eagerly awaiting the Monday email. Having just finished the excellent Grow Or Die, I'm ready for another Castalia release. (Sorry posted in wrong thread).

Blogger clk December 05, 2015 10:51 PM  

This is all a numbers game --

Trump gets 20-30% of the republican voters because there is a minority of republicans that think like him; resonate with what he says. .. In a normal primary with 1-2 other candidates 20-30% would not be enough.. but with 10 other candidates, dividing the rest of 70% up -- its likely that Trump comes out on top at 30%. He gets a majority of a minority and wins the nomination.

But he ends up being a very weak candidate number-wise in the general election. Hillary obviously gets all the democrats - left and middle democrats , plus she picks up moderate republicans as well ... Why the moderate republicans too ? --- Hillary is a politician ..she is a known quantity and can be bought. Trump is a.. well something else which is harder to describe and much harder to control. ,... Give her enough money (or perhaps the Clinton Foundation) and she will find a way to give these middle of the road conservatives what they want. She did it as a senator in NY with Wall street. Hillary and Jeb are simply much closer in policy than Jeb and Trump.


For me.. I like Trump because of the chance .. he is a wild card .. I don't really know where he stands on most things other than himself (which he likes a lot) .. so there's always the possibility he will do something good (maybe for the wrong reasons) but good will come out of it .. and I think since we are not given a chance to choose "none of the above" .. Trump is the next best thing... a vote for Trump is statement of "fu" politicians ... and that's all we have left.

Anonymous Wild Bill December 05, 2015 11:19 PM  

People want to vote for Trump because:
1. Trump loves America.
2. Trump doesn't want your money.

Name any politician that meets those two criteria... Exactly.

Trump may say some stupid shit but it is NOWHERE near the level of stupid and deceptive shit that comes out of the current regime. At least if Trump makes a mistake you will not have to doubt his intentions and loyalty to the country.

Blogger newanubis December 05, 2015 11:42 PM  

Wow is this obscure! Thanks for giving it the paddles. (Means reviving for you lurkers)

Blogger newanubis December 06, 2015 12:09 AM  

Wow is this obscure! Thanks for giving it the paddles. (Means reviving for you lurkers)

Anonymous American Spartan December 06, 2015 12:16 AM  

Mass immigration is really, really important to these people, even more than we realized before. It's one of the hills they're willing to die on.


They will...Mark my words, they will die on it, a long, painful, death that will make they rue the day they every blotted against us and as a server and graphic warning to all others who would are to commit such a act against us.

Blogger Pete December 06, 2015 12:38 AM  

I find it fascinating how people dance around the issue of race. Trump represents the beaten down gentile White demo. All the other other demos are against him because they are eager to retain (jews)/seize (hispanics) power. But everyone dances around this truth.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 06, 2015 12:43 AM  

@ 20. Mike

Let's not badmouth actual conservatives. The reason for the popularity of the term "cuckservative" is that it reveals the Israel-First, pro-war, any-war, big-government Republicans for what they really are -- SJWs in conservative clothing.

Yes, they may think they're conservatives, and loudly call themselves conservative, but then, Rachel Swirsky calls herself a "writer."


Or Rachel Dolezal calling herself black, or Bruce Jenner calling himself a woman.

Blogger Doom December 06, 2015 1:47 AM  

Amen.

Blogger Groot December 06, 2015 1:55 AM  

Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey v. Farmer, 220 F. 3d 127 - Court of Appeals, 3rd Circuit 2000
Is Google not available in your zip code, or are facile erucations just too damn facile to resist? Wipe your mouth. And your chin. And your shirt.

Blogger Groot December 06, 2015 1:57 AM  

@108. Were-Puppy:

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY December 06, 2015 2:07 AM  

'"Fernandez must have been promised good things in a Jeb Bush presidency."
YOU RECKON ?
"well that's funny senor taco, because if i have to choose between hillary and anyone other than trump, i'll be supporting hillary"
o damn lay !
"How much money has Trump made off of eminent domain?"
Not as much as you wish he did, you Vandy candy smarty ass. When you made his stack, talk. If you ain't done that, smarty farty until then, STFU . GOD DAMN YOU GONNA BE A WHINY PISSANT BITCH TO LIKE WHAT, 50 YEARS OLD ?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY December 06, 2015 2:37 AM  

Your god Rand Paul stands an ice cube in hell chance of being elected, Josh I get you are most butthurt over that. Grow the hell up,it will be alright. You will be a better man for it.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 06, 2015 4:02 AM  

@ Groot

That link....is just disgusting. It is Satanic/Talmudic in it's twisted, bloviating "logic". I feel like I need to scrub my brain and eyes with bleach.

Blogger Rantor December 06, 2015 5:41 AM  

Please, everyone, when referring to Jeb! this election cycle & forevermore use Jeb! Not Bush, not Jeb Bush, but Jeb! It is his chosen moniker. If you have the upside down exclamation point figured out, use that too. It is what he'd want. (Well not really) it is what Jeb! Deserves.

Blogger James Dixon December 06, 2015 8:26 AM  

> Well, no, that would be 1861. DEO VINDICE!

Well, the "United States" wasn't the one being invaded in 1861, so I discounted it. :)

Blogger Were-Puppy December 06, 2015 9:41 AM  

@117 Wild Bill

People want to vote for Trump because:
1. Trump loves America.
2. Trump doesn't want your money.
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These are the two biggest.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 06, 2015 9:43 AM  

@120 American Spartan

Mass immigration is really, really important to these people, even more than we realized before. It's one of the hills they're willing to die on.
---

Then we have to oblige them and let them die on that hill. They must be taught through all means the error of their ways on this subject.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 06, 2015 9:54 AM  

@125 Groot
@108. Were-Puppy:

Dear Groot, allow me to double down:

"Trump says his pro-abortion sister would make ‘phenomenal’ Supreme Court justice"

This was the headline taken from the following quote from the link:

"Donald Trump told Mark Halperin yesterday that his sister, a federal judge, would be a “phenomenal” Supreme Court justice. He also said that “we will have to rule that out now, at least.”"


I'm not saying she would make a great SCJ. I'm just pointing out Trump himself says it has to be ruled out. This is just another one of his throwing around of compliments, IMO. But the Cucks want it to be written in stone that he is going to fill the SC with family? What chance is there of that actually happening?

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 06, 2015 1:42 PM  

3PO has always been Gay and R2D2 identifies as a Woman.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 06, 2015 1:42 PM  

3PO has always been Gay and R2D2 identifies as a Woman.

Blogger James Dixon December 06, 2015 3:01 PM  

> But he ends up being a very weak candidate number-wise in the general election. Hillary obviously gets all the democrats - left and middle democrats , plus she picks up moderate republicans as well ... Why the moderate republicans too ? --- Hillary is a politician ..she is a known quantity and can be bought. Trump is a.. well something else which is harder to describe and much harder to control.

That's ot a given. The moderate republicans are more likely to stay home than vote for Hillary, and she has her own problems with disaffected democrats,as the Slate article linked to in the Open Source article from today confirms.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 06, 2015 4:05 PM  

@11, if you're not strongly nationalist, you're not conservative. End of story.

Blogger Groot December 06, 2015 6:02 PM  

@133. Were-Puppy:

You're so... forgiving. Of course he's not going to appoint an 80-year-old, but she'd be "phenomenal."

Oh, he's stepped out with "abortion, immigration, and single-payer health care, and his use of government to harass homeowners," but he's back home now, and he really, really loves you. After the wedding, he'll be so faithful.

Ironic, as Cuckservative comes out.

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