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Wednesday, December 09, 2015

Cuckservative at Return of Kings

Roosh introduced Cuckservative: How "Conservatives" Betrayed America, to the Return of Kings readership. If you've already read it, perhaps you might leave a comment there with your impressions for the benefit of those who haven't otherwise heard of the book. From the Prologue:

What is now taking place in Europe is a microcosm of what is happening, on a larger scope and timescale, in the United States of America. Although the European population of 508 million is larger than the U.S. population of 320 million, the 28 member nations of the E.U. fit into about half the land taken up by the 50 united States. Moreover, unlike the heterogeneous American “nation of immigrants”, the European nations are homogeneous and distinct, with long histories, traditions, and collective memories that stretch back for centuries. That is why a much smaller number of immigrants arriving in a much shorter period of time has triggered the powerful nationalistic response that is already overturning governments and will ultimately shatter the European Union.

That is why it is important to realize that the same divisive process is well underway in the United States, albeit at a larger order of magnitude. And one of the tragic ironies of American politics is that it is the very group of people who most proudly proclaim their loyalty to the U.S. Constitution and to the traditional values of America’s founding fathers, conservatives, who have helped lead the way to America’s decline and eventual collapse. They have done so by forgetting the central purpose of the very document they revere.

The Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America contains an extremely important phrase that is almost always ignored by those who appeal to it, or to the men who wrote it, in defense of immigration. It states:

    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


The key phrase is this: “to ourselves and our posterity.” The blessings of liberty are not to be secured to all the nations of the world, to the tired and huddled masses, or to the wretched refuse of the teeming shores of other lands. They are to be secured to our children, and their children, and their children’s children.

To sacrifice their interests to the interests of children in other lands is to betray both past and future America. It is to permit an alien posterity, like the newly hatched cuckoo in another bird’s nest, to eliminate our own, and in doing so, defeat the purpose of the Constitution. It is, like the cuckolded husband, to raise the children of another man instead of one’s own sons and daughters.

It is, in a word, cuckservative.

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66 Comments:

Blogger Mark Citadel December 09, 2015 3:22 PM  

Vox, did you hear that Lovecraft has been kicked out of the Fantasy awards by SJWs? The award will no longer be a Lovecraft statuette because he was a waaaaycis!

Blogger VD December 09, 2015 3:25 PM  

Vox, did you hear that Lovecraft has been kicked out of the Fantasy awards by SJWs?

That was posted here more than a week ago. So, yes. Please note that as a general rule, the comments are not the correct place to apprise me of what you think will be new information.

Anonymous T. Ferg. December 09, 2015 3:30 PM  

Double Jeopardy category "Hodgepodge" for $800 today: Puppygate was a 2015 scandal that rocked these awards for science fiction authors.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 09, 2015 3:34 PM  

I went there and clicked the VS ad, for the team of course

Blogger Stingray December 09, 2015 3:43 PM  

What was the highest ranking the book has received so far for Paid in Kindle Store?

Blogger Student in Blue December 09, 2015 3:48 PM  

I'd go there and comment if I weren't sure that work blocks RoK.

Blogger VD December 09, 2015 3:49 PM  

What was the highest ranking the book has received so far for Paid in Kindle Store?

132 overall. #9 in Nonfiction.

Blogger Student in Blue December 09, 2015 3:53 PM  

@VD
132 overall. #9 in Nonfiction.

#9 in Nonfiction sounds very impressive. By comparison, how did SJWAL do, at best?

Anonymous DT December 09, 2015 3:55 PM  

@4 I went there and clicked the VS ad, for the team of course

I went there and turned off my ad blocker to see "Xifaxan - indicated for the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome in adults"

The ad blocker is back on.

Blogger The Remnant December 09, 2015 4:01 PM  

Bravo. It remains to be seen whether enough of a cultural core remains in America to reconquer the entirety of its territory. It could very well be that too much salt has been sown in the furrows by now. Even if a reconquest is possible, it will likely have to start at the state and local level, with open defiance of renegade, treasonous federal policies.

Anonymous Stingray December 09, 2015 4:07 PM  

Congratulations, Vox. It's didn't quite meet the goal you hoped, but it is still a huge achievement. Well done.

Blogger VD December 09, 2015 4:12 PM  

By comparison, how did SJWAL do, at best?

237, with about 60 percent the sales. I think the December Christmas sales made it a tougher challenge. Very pleased regardless. I very much appreciate all the enthusiastic support; I hope we met expectations.

Anonymous Huey December 09, 2015 4:13 PM  

Wow, you guys sure enjoy your echo chamber.

The mainstream does not think like you people.

Anonymous DT December 09, 2015 4:16 PM  

@13 - yes, the "mainstream" does not think like us.

Which is why Trump is at the top.

And why he is winning support among blacks and legal immigrants.

And why MSNBC was on suicide watch after seeing the results of their own poll "Has Trump gone too far suggesting we ban Muslim travel to the U.S.?" The overwhelming response was "no" ranging from 69% for white respondents to >90% for black respondents.

Yep, we're all just in one big echo chamber that happens to be shaped like the United States.

Blogger maniacprovost December 09, 2015 4:17 PM  

The mainstream consists of non-voters, immigrants, celebrities, and idiots. It is not a useful approximation of the opinions of people that should be listened to.

Anonymous Stingray December 09, 2015 4:18 PM  

The mainstream does not think like you people.

It cracks me up every single time that people think this is an insult.

Blogger Student in Blue December 09, 2015 4:20 PM  

How do you outgroup those who never belonged?

Anonymous shoeboy December 09, 2015 4:20 PM  

The mainstream follows a course defined by the banks on either side.

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2015 4:21 PM  

> The mainstream does not think like you people.

Go away, Tad.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 09, 2015 4:23 PM  

Wow, you guys sure enjoy your echo chamber. The mainstream does not think like you people.

Of course they don't Most People Are Idiots. The good thing is that mad moslem attacks will happen in soft liberal areas, not in places were even gays pack heat. A Garland TX beat cop killed 2 moslems wearing body armor with his service revolver, at an art show, but an Obama supporter on a packed train in DC was stabbed to death on the 4th of July with no one doing anything to help him. His last words where "Not All Blacks Are Like That"

Blogger Sherrie December 09, 2015 4:29 PM  

And why MSNBC was on suicide watch after seeing the results of their own poll "Has Trump gone too far suggesting we ban Muslim travel to the U.S.?" The overwhelming response was "no" ranging from 69% for white respondents to >90% for black respondents.

If this was a public interview, I'm betting at least some of those whites were lying to avoid being called racist and potentially losing their jobs.

Anonymous Ad Victoriam December 09, 2015 4:49 PM  

"They have done so by forgetting the central purpose of the very document they revere."

I must respectfully disagree with this. They do not revere it. They know exactly what they are doing: they just have a different vision of America. They are globalists with an Imperial vision, and they infest both parties.

The Roman Empire expanded in large part by co-opting elites of neighboring kingdoms after conquest. Roman citizenship was extended to non-Romans who contributed to the expansion and maintenance of the Empire. Examples include landowners whose stable collection of rents and inheritance was guaranteed by Roman military power in exchange for a cut, and non-citizen auxiliary soldiers who were granted citizenship after a long period of service (25 years iirc).

Arch-globalist Paul Ryan was recorded as saying "America is a thing that doesn't stop at our borders." They don't have any problem with extending American citizenship to illegals and as many 3rd-worlders as they can, as long as their labor increases the profits of the transnationals. They would make everyone in the world an American citizen if they could get away with it. They also co-opt the elites of other nations into their Empire by getting them invested in and profiting from the network of transnational corporations that work incessantly to break down national barriers to the flow of capital and labor. The personal success of local elites is thus tied into the success of Empire, rather than the shared success of the nation in which they live. They get angry when willing elites are prevented by nationalists from solidifying their hold on the reigns of power. (post-Yeltsin Russia)

While Trump's success is largely because he is making his candidacy the national referendum on multiculturalism and open-immigration we have never been permitted to have, it should also be noted that it is a referendum on whether we remain (or restore) a republic or finish our transformation (utterly without the informed consent of the American people) into an Empire. late thought: also a referendum on whether we shall return to having a nationalist capitalist system of the kind that used to bring prosperity to the majority of Americans or whether we will be locked into an internationalist capitalist system which will impoverish most of us

The ultimate fate of the other European peoples (in the cultural/civilizational rather genomic sense) will certainly be tied at least in part to our own. A triumphant American Republic under Trump might remove the State Department jackboot I suspect rests on the face of European nationalism.

Blogger Phillip George December 09, 2015 4:53 PM  

If Islam is a race I'm a racist. Your call. You're free to make the call and be wrong about it. We can be magnanimous with useless nomenclature.

I'd rather dodge epithets than bullets.

Blogger Student in Blue December 09, 2015 5:01 PM  

@VD
237, with about 60 percent the sales. I think the December Christmas sales made it a tougher challenge. Very pleased regardless. I very much appreciate all the enthusiastic support; I hope we met expectations.

I was expecting an improvement in sales over SJWAL, but not quite that much of an improvement. Congratulations.

Blogger Giuseppe The Kurgan December 09, 2015 5:01 PM  

Reading it now...even though I am familiar with most of the points it still has a crystallising effect. The section on HBD especially, mostly because it's so taboo to even mention it. What interests me is how would you structure a society if HBD facts were accepted. I do think your answer, separate nations with clearly defined nationalities is the most humane, but thinking in SF terms I can't help but project that forward a few hundred years in a what if? way. It's interesting.

Blogger The Other Robot December 09, 2015 5:05 PM  

We need to see some more buying action. Cuckservative is slipping back in Amazon rankings.

Blogger BunE22 December 09, 2015 5:07 PM  

@13

Mainstream

Blogger VD December 09, 2015 5:10 PM  

I was expecting an improvement in sales over SJWAL, but not quite that much of an improvement. Congratulations.

Thanks, but it was you all who did it. We just wrote it.

We need to see some more buying action. Cuckservative is slipping back in Amazon rankings.

No worries, it is bound to do so. It was easily Castalia's most successful launch to date. The best thing is that it was done without any book bombs or even any support outside of Instapundit. This is a very positive development; the mailing list continues to grow and become more effective.

Anonymous map December 09, 2015 5:12 PM  

Exactly. America is not a free clinic, or a learning annex or a job board for the rest of the world.

Blogger MidKnight (#138) December 09, 2015 5:15 PM  

Xifaxan - indicated for the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome in adults

Drug names - even a couple years ago they had a fake-latin name that sounded vaguely tied to something concrete or an activity.

Shit like "Xifaxan" - now they're just making shit up, and not bothering to hide it.

Blogger LibertyPortraits December 09, 2015 5:16 PM  

I am halfway through the book. It is very insightful, and maybe it's just me because I've been reading this blog for over a decade, but, I haven't found anything to be offensive. I usually find Vox Day's writing style to (and I understand this other gentleman also wrote in this) be much more toned down than he could otherwise be. Maybe VD has learned how to overcome his Warrior Gene, but I could never keep my cool for as long as he has given the enemies he has and the topics frequently discussed. Anyway, you're just a fool if you don't bother read the book.

Anonymous tiarosa December 09, 2015 5:17 PM  

OT, but "Puppygate" was just now part of a Jeopardy clue.

Anonymous Drew_Deuce's December 09, 2015 5:27 PM  

Seeing the name "Godfrey Elfwick" in chapter 2 brought a smile to my face...

Anonymous Wyrd December 09, 2015 5:27 PM  

OT, but "Puppygate" was just now part of a Jeopardy clue.

By any chance was "this movement made sci-fi SJWs cry like little girls with skinned knees" the answer?

Blogger MendoScot December 09, 2015 5:33 PM  

@13. Huey

Wow, you guys sure enjoy your echo chamber.

Hi Ralph! Thanks for the diced carrots.

Blogger Dave December 09, 2015 5:38 PM  

the mailing list continues to grow and become more effective.

It's a two way street; we customers get informative, topical, entertaining, and well written books for a very reasonable price plus free bonuses. You'd be crazy to pass on that deal.

Vox, I've been wondering if you're noticing much crossover from Cernovich's audience/ following/ book buyers?

Blogger MidKnight (#138) December 09, 2015 5:51 PM  

@Huey

Wow, you guys sure enjoy your echo chamber.

The mainstream does not think like you people


And the train is fine.....

Anonymous Shut up, Australian Tad December 09, 2015 5:57 PM  

It is interesting reading Vox’s Cuckservative posts.

I note his comment that he no longer does political predictions.

That’s just as well, because doing so might help him understand the reality that Donald Trump has next to no chance of becoming the next President. I wouldn’t say zero chance. But close to it.

Blogger Dave December 09, 2015 5:59 PM  

I like it Wyrd, but we don't know what the category was. What if the category was "George Rape Rape Martin"?

"Alex, I'll take Rape Rape for $250"

Alex: "For $250, what is the name given to the Hugo ballet controversy in 2015 by George Rape Rape Martin?

Anonymous tiarosa December 09, 2015 6:23 PM  

Not sure of the category. Puppygate was mentioned in the clue, and a contestant correctly answered "Hugo Awards."

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 09, 2015 6:47 PM  

Xifaxan - indicated for the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome in adults

Drug names - even a couple years ago they had a fake-latin name that sounded vaguely tied to something concrete or an activity.

Shit like "Xifaxan" - now they're just making shit up, and not bothering to hide it.


It's not inconsistent with a bunch of weird trade names for recently developed antibiotics, work backwards from the end of Wikipedia's timeline of antibiotics and see for yourself.

Blogger LP999 December 09, 2015 6:53 PM  

Awesome! Congratulations Vox and CH Staff!

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2015 7:32 PM  

Perhaps not coincidentally, the term cuckservative was used in todays's Day by Day

Blogger Chad December 09, 2015 7:47 PM  

Just put a review up on Amazon of the book - SJW's lie, cuckservatives cry.

Thanks for the book and gathering the facts together, adding in a good serving of hot rhetoric, and giving it to the minions.

- an unnumbered minion

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 09, 2015 8:08 PM  

Moderators: if http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/12/no-there-will-be-no-debate.html?showComment=1449708669358#c3887261982529226496 which briefly appeared before going poof wasn't due to a blogspot.com glitch I'd appreciate some feedback about what line I'm crossing.

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2015 8:40 PM  

Huey @13: Wow, you guys sure enjoy your echo chamber.

Actually, one of the things that I like about this place is the vigorous debate. Please feel free to present your countervailing data and reason, if you have any.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 09, 2015 8:42 PM  

@45 That Would Be Telling

I've lost a bunch of comments myself. As I understand it, if you refresh too fast or some such, they disappear.

Just copy the comment, and roast if lost.

Anonymous Godfrey December 09, 2015 8:43 PM  

Israel HAS A WALL.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 09, 2015 8:46 PM  

@48 Godfrey

Yes, it is a yuge wall. Can you see it from space? I expect it is fine.

Anonymous Randall December 09, 2015 8:54 PM  

"Cuckservatives" was linked from the Oathkeepers FaceBook page today.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 09, 2015 8:54 PM  

@48 Godfrey

Of course, methinks it isn't well maintained. When I went there, people were shoring it up by stuffing paper in it.

They really should have the government look into condemning it and taking it over from the current occupants. Maybe build a butcher shop in its place.

I hear it was a dump when Mohammed visited it last on his magic donkey, Baraq.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2015 9:21 PM  

@13 Huey

Wow, you guys sure enjoy your echo chamber.
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How could someone trapped in a bubble even be aware of an echo chamber?

Oh yeah, Rule 3: SJWs Always Project

Blogger Markku December 09, 2015 9:27 PM  

That Would Be Telling

You had one comment autospammed. I released it. If the comment you refer to didn't appear, then it was probably specifically deleted. Not by me, and otherwise I wouldn't know.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2015 9:29 PM  

@39 Dave

Alex: "For $250, what is the name given to the Hugo ballet controversy in 2015 by George Rape Rape Martin?
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I don't know if this was intentional or not, but this is hilarious!

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2015 9:35 PM  

Finished the book a while ago. It's really something, I'll be sharing it with others after I read through it again.

One question I have is the idea of a nationalist movement. Is there anything like that now? Or are we hoping that Trump and such will drive the Cucks into the Democrat party?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2015 9:35 PM  

Woops, meant nationalist party, not movement.

Blogger Dave December 09, 2015 9:38 PM  

Unintentional auto-correct. Rape Rape dancing for the Hugo Ballet; o the horror!

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2015 9:44 PM  

Ad Victoriam @22: The ultimate fate of the other European peoples (in the cultural/civilizational rather genomic sense) will certainly be tied at least in part to our own. A triumphant American Republic under Trump might remove the State Department jackboot I suspect rests on the face of European nationalism.

Could be genomic too, although it looks like they might take their fates into their own hands at that point.

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2015 9:49 PM  

Oh wait, I thought you meant genomic fate. My bad, still not used to thinking of us as not being a genomic European people (and that could still change back with some effort).

Blogger Carl Philipp December 09, 2015 10:23 PM  

Saw the first one-star review just now. Congratulations! Word is spreading!

Anonymous Godfrey December 09, 2015 10:42 PM  

@51
Yes it's fine. It's working as designed in keeping the Palestinians out... well at least those left after the latest aerial bombing campaign.

Interesting we didn't hear the "compassionate" cuckservatives complain about Israel bombing refugees did we? And yet they say Trump is evil.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare December 10, 2015 12:12 AM  

I've never commented here before (only started lurking during SP3) but I have to ask for a link to this! Seriously, that is freaking delicious... Is there a video, or an article? I googled several versions of the question, searched on msnbc's website, and didn't find anything. A link would be great, but if that's unavailable, what show was this on? I thirst for the tears of brainless tranzi progs! Oh, by the way, hi everybody. *ducks*

Blogger chris December 10, 2015 3:44 AM  

Got. Even though I live in NZ. Because causing SJW tears is a righteous act.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 10, 2015 9:54 AM  

@62 Bibliotheca Servare

I've never commented here before (only started lurking during SP3) but I have to ask for a link to this! Seriously, that is freaking delicious... Is there a video, or an article? I googled several versions of the question, searched on msnbc's website, and didn't find anything. A link would be great, but if that's unavailable, what show was this on? I thirst for the tears of brainless tranzi progs! Oh, by the way, hi everybody. *ducks*
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Hi, welcome. If you want a link to Cuckservative, you can go to Amazon and find it easily.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 10, 2015 11:30 AM  

@25 What interests me is how would you structure a society if HBD facts were accepted.

https://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 10, 2015 4:12 PM  

@53 Markku: You had one comment autospammed. I released it.

That was it, although by the time you released it, going on @47 Rusty Fife's advice I'd already resubmitted an improved version.

I can see why blogger would insert it into the comment stream, it needs some place to put it, but I can't see why it would make it visible for a few seconds before the spam filter marked it as such and made it invisible, I'd rather think it would wait for the spam filter to bless it before making it visible.

Then again, Blogger is in Google maintenance mode, right? And the above flow would allow for various heuristics and spam filters to mark comments as such, or for them to crash before finishing preventing harm to the comment flow. Still....

If in your experience it seldom if ever loses comments once they show up, I'll be patient in the future. Thanks for your reply, and your work to keep this forum running.

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