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Friday, December 18, 2015

Disband the Republican Party

Rush Limbaugh is railing against the Republicans in light of their most recent cuckservative betrayal.
Blasting the Republican-led Congress over a $1.1 trillion omnibus bill that, among other things, fully funds Planned Parenthood and has the White House declaring victory yet again on fiscal fronts, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh said Thursday that the GOP should be disbanded.

“There is no Republican Party!” Limbaugh said. “You know, we don’t even need a Republican Party if they’re gonna do this. You know, just elect Democrats, disband the Republican Party, and let the Democrats run it, because that’s what’s happening anyway.”

Limbaugh recounted how American voters “showed up in record numbers” and “defeated Democrats down the ballot” in order to get Republicans to stop runaway spending and President Barack Obama’s agenda.

“And now the Republicans have the largest number of seats in the House they’ve had in Congress since the Civil War,” he said. “And it hasn’t made any difference at all. It is as though Nancy Pelosi is still running the House and Harry Reid is still running the Senate. ‘Betrayed’ is not even the word here. What has happened here is worse than betrayal. Betrayal is pretty bad, but it’s worse than that.”
He's not at all wrong and one would certainly like to take him at face value, but it's hard not to look at his past record and conclude that in six months, he'll be calling this "the most important election ever" and urging listeners to vote Republican or else!

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Blogger Krul December 18, 2015 8:07 AM  

“There is no Republican Party!”

I like that.

"Vote Republican, you say? Why, whatever do you mean? There is no Republican party. There is only the Democrats and the Other Democrats.

Didn't you get the memo?"

Blogger dc.sunsets December 18, 2015 8:21 AM  

In our debased times entertainment dominates.

What is more interesting is the evidence that the Narrative is weakening. This latest Business-As-Usual on Capitol Hill has a Blow-off Top feel to me, in light of the fact that Interest Rates are creeping upward and rapidly pulling forward the time when Wizard of Oz accounting will no longer mask the US Treasury's empty pockets.

Anonymous WillBest December 18, 2015 8:22 AM  

Well if Trump is the nominee, he won't be wrong with his most important election ever. Trump is the hail mary.

Gotta say it is pretty great to be proven right about Paul Ryan within a couple months of being chastised about him being an unacceptable "conservative" choice for speaker.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 18, 2015 8:22 AM  

The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened. It would have been far better to have allowed Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to continue unfettered. The resulting catastrophe would have been laid at their door.

As it is now most of Obama's policies do not take full effect until 2017. If the GOP controls White House, Senate, and House; who gets the blame for the economic downturn?

Bring back the Whigs.

Blogger Melampus the Seer December 18, 2015 8:23 AM  

The members of the party lack common cause. Disband it.

Blogger FALPhil December 18, 2015 8:24 AM  

Limbaugh aside, the GOP has not been our friend for a long, long time. Even Reagan had his warts, despite the protests to the contrary.

For 15+ years, it has been evident to anyone without blinders that we have a one-party political apparatus with two wings, and this is what drives the USA's empire behavior.

I guess what is so distressing to me is that we are no longer, "land of the free, home of the brave." We have become land of the chickenshit, home of the wimp. Our favorite pastimes have become navel gazing and whining.

Anonymous bw December 18, 2015 8:27 AM  

It's in the process of being exploded as we speak, having started with the Tea Party, continuing now with the Trump and SJW and Cuck nation.
The irony is that the breakup - and what else may come of that - is what has all political pundits and MSM crapping themselves in unabashed unity against it. The Cucks are being shown for what they are: marxist, liberal "democrats".
The angst from the bi-factional banksta globalist party concerns the nationalist/racialist sheep leaving "one of" the folds, which is, as we've long noted around here, simply, "the fold".
What shall those particular sheep now become? Explode the sh*t out of it.

Blogger FALPhil December 18, 2015 8:33 AM  

Skylark Thibedeau wrote:
The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened. It would have been far better to have allowed Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to continue unfettered. The resulting catastrophe would have been laid at their door.


I am with you on that. This is the first step in what I call, "hitting the reset button." Its like pulling a tooth. It is all over much more quickly when you go ahead and yank it out, than if you try and tug on it over a prolonged period. It is going to be painful either way, but we can get it over with quickly and start rebuilding. This is much more preferable to me than watching the slow, cancerous decline of prolonging the agony.

Anonymous FriarBob December 18, 2015 8:43 AM  

No FALPhil, you're wrong. 50 years ago the tooth could have been pulled and then get on with the rebuilding. Probably, that is.

Now? Waaaaaaay too late for that. Not that we won't try. We will. And it will look OK at first. But it won't be.

It's going to take an absolute blasting to the bedrock before things finally get straightened out.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2015 8:48 AM  

My own view is that the Tea Party was a needful growing step.

The base had to have its face rubbed in the fact that the Establishment holds us in utter contempt. The Establishment did it's part, now we have to do ours.

Blogger John S December 18, 2015 8:51 AM  

The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened. It would have been far better to have allowed Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to continue unfettered. The resulting catastrophe would have been laid at their door.

Who would be "laying it at their door"? The reliably leftist media? Limbaugh et al already do that, for all the good it does...

Submitting to your rapist in the hopes that the rest of the gang will shame him about it isn't a winning strategy...

Blogger Nate December 18, 2015 8:54 AM  

He probably will flip flop Vox... never the less... today... he's speaking the truth.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 18, 2015 8:57 AM  

Had Kerry won in 2004 who would have gotten the blame for the collapse in 2008?

Blogger Nate December 18, 2015 8:58 AM  

"The members of the party lack common cause. Disband it."

The establishment and leadership of the GOP hate the base. and the Base hates them.

That's because the Base of the party... is actually a bunch of defected democrats.

Blogger Phillip George December 18, 2015 9:03 AM  

It's "do they stand for Jesus?". That simple.
Secularism is the Exocet missile that flew under the religion radar, but is every bit a religion. It's axioms are all faith.

Deoxygenate them. In a wax museum they are quite harmless.
I'm stating the obvious bluntly because that's how much time is left now I reckon. Christians are the only intellectuals. Full stop.

4G warfare intelligence community shadow government doesn't necessarily equate with sane. And at the end of the day all the sophistry of satanists is crazy. In irreducibly complex systems it is impossible to know enough to make informed decisions. So Jesus. One goes to the source as the only sane option.
I have no doubt Caligula, Nero had a good intelligence community working 24/7. Rome fell. cheers.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 18, 2015 9:11 AM  

The House Majority Leader explains why it's urgent to fix "the current and projected H-2B worker shortage" in this bill.

He doesn't, however, explain why we gave his party a majority in the House such that the position of Majority Leader was open to him.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus December 18, 2015 9:11 AM  

I don't see why folks are so down on Paul Ryan. He and the GOP are just upholding their oaths of office:

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the contributors to my campaign against all enemies, Tea Party or populist; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the dollar; that I take this obligation to the highest bidder, without any concern for what 'the people' want; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the wishes of the Chamber of Commerce of which I am bought and paid for: So help me Tom Donohue."

Anonymous redsash December 18, 2015 9:12 AM  

Democrat or Republican one gets the same fricking policies. Why? Because they both are controlled by the same NWO GLOBALIST GOVERNING ELITE. Who are these people? Royalty (Queen Liz and her dolt son), other royalty, banking elite, heads of state, EU biggies, the Gates, the Rockefellers (the UN rests on Rockefellers land). What ties them together? They worship at the throne of Satan. They have been following the same game plan for 50 or more years. Weaken the nation state by bringing in people with different religions, race, language, customs. Create chaos. Usher in global governance.......line up to receive your Mark.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 December 18, 2015 9:13 AM  

He refused to endorse Romney. He didn't call the 2012 race the most important evah. All he did was (accurately) criticize Obama and the dems. I don't expect a flip flop. I expect him to continue the path he's on. He will endorse a Trump (with caveats about Trumps liberal positions on some issues) or a Cruz. Anyone else gets Romneyed or worse. Rush is more in line with Pat Buchanan than George Will. This is a testable prediction so let's bookmark it and revisit it once the primaries are over.

Blogger clk December 18, 2015 9:15 AM  

The biggest sell out .... the ending of the oil export ban..

Anonymous daddynichol December 18, 2015 9:15 AM  

Rush missed the obvious. The GOP is self destructing without any additional outside assistance, yet remain oblivious to what's happening. It's like a drug addict who insists that all is well yet others can see the rapid decline.

When the GOP hits bottom their recovery will be difficult and long if recovery is even possible.

Blogger David of One December 18, 2015 9:18 AM  

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Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 18, 2015 9:20 AM  

Tax collectors for the occupation regime

Blogger David of One December 18, 2015 9:23 AM  

OT - Adam Baldwin's Twitter account "locked" for criticizing SJWs. QUICK - How do we get a copy of "SJWs Always Lie" to this man?

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/17/bias-adam-baldwins-twitter-account-locked-after-criticizing-sjws/

Anonymous 334 December 18, 2015 9:26 AM  

@22. Adam Baldwin. Different cat, by a mile.

Blogger dienw December 18, 2015 9:26 AM  

6. FALPhil December 18, 2015 8:24 AMEven Reagan had his warts, despite the protests to the contrary.

No one said Reagan didn't have his warts.

Anonymous WillBest December 18, 2015 9:28 AM  

It would have been far better to have allowed Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to continue unfettered.

We are still waiting for all the hell that FDR unleashed to be laid at his door.

Blogger John S December 18, 2015 9:29 AM  

Had Kerry won in 2004 who would have gotten the blame for the collapse in 2008?

We would have been blamed, of course. Insufficient enthusiasm for commisar Kerry's wise policies.

Did you just discover politics this week or something?

Blogger Jourdan December 18, 2015 9:32 AM  

The good news for our side keeps on coming. The political system and government are losing legitimacy in the eyes of European-Americans at a pace that is startling.

It is precisely this loss of legitimacy that is a necessary first step for revolutionary action to be considered by the masses. (Comrades...)

Blogger David of One December 18, 2015 9:32 AM  

@25. 334

Absolutely ... light years even.

Anonymous Anonymous December 18, 2015 9:41 AM  

United States of America ceased to be 3 years ago. Look to within 10 years a government controlled police force that overrides local law enforcement. A one party system. Complete control of all news media. Strict controls over health care.These people running things now are not liberals, they are Marxist Socialists; the exact thing our great grandfathers fought during WW2. Elements of "Fascism" are on the ride. Yale university students are freely signing petitions to do away with the first amendment. That's how stupid the population has become. We are ripe for the picking. The middle class (within our lifetimes) will disappear. Its too late.Political correction rules. God help us. Dark days are ahead

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 18, 2015 9:48 AM  

In the midst of all this talk about "burning the castle down because we've got termites", I find myself asking where exactly we're going to be sleeping once we burn the castle down.

After all, the enemy still has his castle, termites and all, and I don't think any contractor in the world can build another castle before the next election.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 18, 2015 9:54 AM  

The Republican Party has been the Democrat Party, 25 years slower. Not any more.
Today, the GOP is the Other Democrat Party.

Anonymous karsten December 18, 2015 10:01 AM  

"the same NWO GLOBALIST GOVERNING ELITE. Who are these people? Royalty (Queen Liz and her dolt son), other royalty, banking elite, heads of state, EU biggies, the Gates, the Rockefellers (the UN rests on Rockefellers land). What ties them together?"

Hilarious. You're like Alex Jones and his duped controlled opposition. You'll name everyone... except the real ((( culprits ))).

Blogger bearspaw December 18, 2015 10:03 AM  

The GOP lost any claim to being a " conservative" organization when they stabbed Goldwater in the back. Ever since their candidates have been varying shades of RINO.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 18, 2015 10:04 AM  

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/18/paul-ryan-negotiated-exporting-oil-exchange-importing-syrians/


Apparently the story is that Ryan was willing to give up all the other things in order to get the oil export ban lifted.

Now, this is absolutely a good thing. But here's my question: if they had fought for this AND for the refugee thing, how exactly would the Democrats have explained to their constituencies their refusal to allow oil exports?

Why were the GOP so convinced that throwing everything else off the table in exchange for oil exports was necessary? Why couldn't we have both?

OpenID vilefacelessminion December 18, 2015 10:09 AM  

These 3 articles show why Trump is winning and not even having to try very hard at that.

What happened in Congress:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/16/paul-ryan-betrays-america-1-1-trillion-2000-plus-page-omnibus-bill-funds-fundamental-transformation-america/

His reaction:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/17/donald-trump-congress-threw-towel-budget-deal/

The mood of the country:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/17/pat-caddell-country-closer-to-revolution-than-ever/

Blogger Jourdan December 18, 2015 10:10 AM  

Speaking of a loss of legitimacy, let's not forget that even some sitting Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States are saying openly, in published opinions, that the Government has become lawless and unmoored from the Constitution.

Excerpt, Dissent, Obergefell v Hodges (__ U.S.__, 2015):

It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create “liberties” that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.

But what really astounds is the hubris reflected in today’s judicial Putsch. The five Justices who compose today’s majority are entirely comfortable concluding that every State violated the Constitution for all of the 135 years between the Fourteenth Amendment’s ratification and Massachusetts’ permitting of same-sex marriages in 2003. They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a “fundamental right” overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds—minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly—could not. They are certain that the People ratified the Fourteenth Amendment to bestow on them the power to remove questions from the democratic process when that is called for by their “reasoned judgment.” These Justices know that limiting marriage to one man and one woman is contrary to reason; they know that an institution as old as government itself, and accepted by every nation in history until 15 years ago, cannot possibly be supported by anything other than ignorance or bigotry. And they are willing to say that any citizen who does not agree with that, who adheres to what was, until 15 years ago, the unanimous judgment of all generations and all societies, stands against the Constitution.

* * *

Putsch.

When a Justice says a Putsch has happened, well, now, that is a game-changer.

Blogger FALPhil December 18, 2015 10:12 AM  

@26 No one said Reagan didn't have his warts.

No one here at Vox Popoli said Reagan didn't have his warts. But cuckservatives everywhere else conveniently forget about them. you will rarely hear about all the bad things Reagan did to the American people in most of the conservative political organs.

Anonymous EliteRope December 18, 2015 10:19 AM  

WKL, re: castles with termites.

I'll gladly drop everything I'm doing to build a new castle. No need for contractors.

Anonymous YIH December 18, 2015 10:25 AM  

@8 FALPhil:
I agree with Friar Bob, your 'bad tooth' analogy is flawed. The tooth is now heavily abscessed, just 'yanking the tooth' very well could expose a massive bacterial infection directly to the bloodstream - with fatal results.
Typically the infection is cleared up with antibiotics before the tooth is pulled, just for that reason.
The Tea Party was manufactured by talk radio, complete with both local and national hosts declaring themselves ''The leader of the Tea Party''.
With a few exceptions (some small localized 'TEA Parties') it was designed to 'rally the troops' to the GOP. And in 2010 it worked.
Trouble is, when it came to domestic issues it couldn't deliver the goods, nor did it even care. It's goal was to promote the same 'United States of the World' globalism that began under Reagan, accelerated under Bushdaddy and continued aggressively by Bill Clinton (NAFTA/GATT/WTO) where the 'remake the world in Israel's, err, America's image' (Yugoslavia, Russia under Yeltsin, ect) push began.
Which was stepped up by Shrub post 9/11 (Iraq was the real beginning of ''the Arab spring'') and continued awkwardly by 0bozo.
it's hard not to look at his past record and conclude that in six months, he'll be calling this "the most important election ever" and urging listeners to vote Republican or else!
Bank on it. I suspect Rush is hoping the GOP somehow devises a way to push out Trump and he runs third party.
Then he'd be free to fire at will at Trump (he can't now, he has his #1 position to maintain) just as he did with Perot - until he ragequit.
Post '92 Mr. Oxycontin started his ''Clinton lost because Bush+Perot!'' nonsense, that (plus his ''free trade'' cheerleading) was where he started to lose me.

Anonymous redsash December 18, 2015 10:35 AM  

Kirsten: Condemnation w/o investigation is ignorance wed to arrogance. You mate are deep in the matrix and haven't a clue where you are, much less how to escape the bloody thing.

The earthly PTB are or are controlled by the princes of the air, demonic entities, Satan himself. Read Daniel. Read Revelations. Read this very site.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot December 18, 2015 10:43 AM  

Even Reagan had his warts, despite the protests to the contrary

Did he say "trust but verify" before or after the amnesty for a wall deal?

OT - Adam Baldwin's Twitter account "locked" for criticizing SJWs. QUICK - How do we get a copy of "SJWs Always Lie" to this man?

If I wanted to stay active on twitter I would have to burn through burner phones faster than a mosque

Had Kerry won in 2004 who would have gotten the blame for the collapse in 2008?

Barney Frank for passing the law that said not giving loans to non Asian minorities with bad credit be racist

Now, this is absolutely a good thing. But here's my question:

Higher energy prices in the US is a bad thing. At least before I could hold out hope that we used up all the middle easts oil before hitting ours hard then repudiating the debt.

But what really astounds is the hubris reflected in today’s judicial Putsch.

Maybe Trump will go after the Wise Latrina & the jewess that should have recused themselves for performing gay marriages. It didn't even take a month before the first gay divorce law firm opened.

Blogger praetorian December 18, 2015 10:46 AM  

Vox, we need an econ thread. Markets are breaking down, Yellen is melting down, Bernanke is talking about negative interest rates.

How can I hold all these happenings?

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 18, 2015 10:50 AM  

@43

Higher energy prices in the US is a bad thing

Our frackers need to stay in business. Expanding their markets makes it more likely that they will hang on long enough to destroy OPEC.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot December 18, 2015 10:51 AM  

Part of me wants to go to a movie theater with my open borders=disease sweatshirt around the times Star Whores the Affirmative Action Force Awakens is showing. I have a gift card for a store an hour away that expires in a couple days.

Anonymous GreyS December 18, 2015 10:51 AM  

“There is no Republican Party!”

Yes-- There is! Get it through your heads-- THIS IS WHO THEY ARE. People always use that acronym-- "RINO" as if some interlopers came and are secretly working against the poor, pure-hearted Republican politicians. Wrong-- there is no magical, pure Republican existing anywhere except inside your head. These people are not betraying the party-- They ARE the party.

Blogger Elocutioner December 18, 2015 11:03 AM  

"The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened. It would have been far better to have allowed Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to continue unfettered. The resulting catastrophe would have been laid at their door."

No. The right finally had enough and sent people to DC to fix things. They got co-opted. Then 2014. They got co-opted. Now we have an outright rejection of the GOPe and a dominant Trump seven years later. Much more of the base is finally clued into what we're really against now than if the Tea Party had never happened. That was the opening shot where very rational people who were fighting for a central tenet of the supposed conservative platform - taxation and bailouts - and were suddenly being called vile names and othered by the supposed moderates in their own party. And it's been nothing but a precipitous slide since. Without the Tea Party we would have a Cruz/Rubio showdown this year and amnesty would have been fait accompli in 2014.

As it is Rubio's Gang of Eight amnesty, which passed the Senate despite all of Ted Cruz's and Rand Paul's supposed objections (but oddly no holds...), was already whipped and had the votes to pass the House - they were literally two or three days from passing it.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/17/just-how-close-was-the-2014-amnesty-vote-heres-the-back-story/

Blogger Beau December 18, 2015 11:07 AM  

OT

You are the light of the world, a city set on a hill cannot be hidden. Matthew 5:14

Heavenly Father, the greatest election ever is not this next one again, it is when a hopeless, hardened sinner surrenders to the King of Kings and believes the gospel.

Awaken your bride so that we may be ready when the cry goes out. Usher in the end of the Age of the Gentiles. Thank you for the work and words of Rabbi B, a morningstar of the restoration.

We continue to pray for the re-unification of the Korean peninsula under the banner of Christ. Reunite them in peace so the world may see the glory of the Lord.

Thank you for sparing us from the plague of Ebola entering the United States. Give those who fight it wisdom and courage, that is our work on Earth.

Be with our brothers and sisters in Christ who flee genocide. Only you can protect them.

Let Mayor Ed Lee call upon the sheriff of San Francisco county to issue concealed carry permits. Let this lead to the end of this city's infatuation with perpetual adolescence. Be our potter, remake us into men and women of thoughtful mien; no longer wicked, but seated and clothed and in our right minds.

Lord Jesus, our sins are piled up to the heavens. Deliver us from evil. Thank you for your few laborers in the fields still, add to their number.

Bless you, Father. Amen.

Blogger FALPhil December 18, 2015 11:07 AM  

@41 So, YIH, how do we get their attention? How do we get them to fear our wrath? Right now, they do not consider "the people" to be a credible threat to their right to rule.

Personally, I am not opposed to a reconfiguration. I am extremely willing to carve off a piece of the continent, preferably the Northeastern US, build a wall, and throw all the leftist/collectivists over that wall. I would even concede SoCal to the Aztlan nation along with Hollywood and Los Angeles.

Like VD, the map is not sacred to me; the nation is the people, and our nation needs a house cleaning.

I would also correct the gaps in the law of the land. Particularly:

1. No one can spend more than 8 years in elected office at the national level. No one can spend more than 12 years in the employ of the national government in an unelected capacity. No lifetime appointments for anyone. States can make their own rules regarding elected office and unelected office.
2. The national navy must keep its assets within 200 miles of the national border except in the case of the national legislature declaring war.
3. No standing army. A training cadre of no more that 2 divisions would be allowed. Army reserves would be encouraged, and states could be levied in time of war.
4. No restrictions on individual weapons. Anyone advocating such would be immediately escorted to one of the new nations mentioned above with extreme predjudice.
5. The national army may not engage in conflict except in the case of the legislature declaring war.
6. Naturalized citizenship requires 12 years of continuous residence plus proficiency in the English language with other tests approved by the legislature. Caps on immigration by country of origin with preference given to first world countries. No other preferences may be offered.
7. No monies could be transferred to foreign governments by the national government for any reason. Charity may come from the States or individuals. The emphasis in foreign policy would be with trade, not force.
8. The interstate commerce clause could only be used for regulating interstate commerce in the strictest sense.
9. There could never be anything remotely like the 16th amendment. The national government would have to fund itself with excise taxes for specific purposes as originally intended.
10. The legislature would meet for only 90 days per year starting the first Monday after New Year.
11. Every national law passed by the national legislature will be null and void exactly 20 years from the date it becomes law. To extend the law would require re-passage according to the process for the original law, and omnibus re-passage of laws would not be allowed.

Anonymous Faceless December 18, 2015 11:13 AM  

Given that our last win in the White House was Coolidge, we're pretty used to being sold a bill of goods by the GOP.

Anonymous Faceless December 18, 2015 11:15 AM  

And clearly the party boys hated Coolidge, that's why they teed up Hoover. To a lesser extent, they did the same with Reagan and Bush -- Hoover hated Coolidge for being too hands off; Coolidge hated Hoover for thinking he was able to central plan the US.

Anonymous Philalethes December 18, 2015 11:17 AM  

@6: For 15+ years, it has been evident to anyone without blinders that we have a one-party political apparatus with two wings, and this is what drives the USA's empire behavior.

Actually more like 50+: The last time the Republicans nominated "a choice not an echo" for president was in 1964. That didn't work (though apparently the Party power structure themselves did what they could to torpedo his chances), so the GOP "learned its lesson" and since then has cooperated with what they believe (or are paid to believe) is inevitable.

So far as I can tell, the only truly Republican president (in the sense of being sincerely in favor of small government) in the last 100 years was Calvin Coolidge. Maybe way back, say before 1860, there were some real differences between the major parties (did anybody beside Thoreau object to the aggressive war against Mexico?), but the Imperial United States has been a partnership for most of its history.

@4: The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened.

The "Tea Party" was a shameless ripoff of the sincere (though ultimately fruitless) hard work of Ron Paul supporters in 2008. It deserved to fail.

Blogger Jack Ward December 18, 2015 11:20 AM  

Unless the legislator is an exceptionally good one then vote them out each primary and try again. If nothing else this 'rinse and dry' may keep the worse of the lot from becoming part of the woodwork.

Blogger Nick S December 18, 2015 11:26 AM  

Never apologize and never vote for an incumbent if there's a practicable alternative. Kick the bums out.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 18, 2015 11:30 AM  

I'll repeat my 1-note:
The "Reagan Revolution," the Tea Party and every other attempt at political reform has utterly failed since at least WW2 because the prevailing zeitgeist didn't want reform, it wanted a huge party to celebrate "'Murica, _uck Yeah!"

For a very long time Americans have been polluted by pathological beliefs and the political economy arose to give them what they wanted, no matter how self-destructive.

No reform can fix that. It has to come from a New (presumably less harmful) Idea sweeping the populace. The ideas choose the leaders, not the other way around.

That New Idea will not dominate until the old one gets buried, and that won't happen until the related mania in credit-based hyperinflation of asset values is visibly over.

Blogger Sherrie December 18, 2015 11:34 AM  

Never apologize and never vote for an incumbent if there's a practicable alternative.
Normally, I'd agree, but blanket statements like this have their downsides. For example, my incumbent U.S. Senator is Richard Shelby -- one of the few Senators who's looking out for actual Americans.

I love the idea of throwing the bums out. But the good guys, rare as they are, need our support.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 18, 2015 11:36 AM  

The main toxic belief of the West is that the state is an Earthly God whose agents' job is to ameliorate all physical, social and moral ills [as defined by innumerable (self-)interest groups.]

That a monopoly agency of coercion should be seen this way by people professing to be of good conscience is one of life's great, unexamined mysteries. How the Left-collectivists ever once occupied the High Moral Ground is inscrutable.

Blogger pyrrhus December 18, 2015 11:40 AM  

Given that our last win in the White House was Coolidge, we're pretty used to being sold a bill of goods by the GOP.

And Coolidge was definitely the best President of the last century, and hated by the bankers and apparatchiks because of his non-interventionism...

Blogger Nick S December 18, 2015 11:42 AM  

I love the idea of throwing the bums out. But the good guys, rare as they are, need our support.

Hence the "practicable alternative" qualifier.

Blogger RobertT December 18, 2015 11:45 AM  

That's a fair assessment of Rush Limbaugh. But right now he's doing what's right, and he's influential with a certain segment of Americans who generally agree with everything he's saying. I think the chances of something coming of this uproar befuddling the media & elites is much stronger with Rush on our side than sitting on the sideline like Glenn Beck.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 18, 2015 11:46 AM  

@50 FALPhil:

The national navy must keep its assets within 200 miles of the national border except in the case of the national legislature declaring war.

It would be cheaper just to abolish the Navy; the above precludes it being a blue water navy, that is, it would be ineffective if ever put to the test. That includes the SSBNs, confining them to such tight waters makes them significantly easier to find, and their Trident II missiles have finite ranges.

The prescriptions for national defense are sorely lacking without a big commitment to ballistic missile defense and civil defense.

OK, you aren't mentioning the national government getting money from tariffs, but that would be largely precluded without some entity keeping the sea lanes open. During the history of the US that was first the Brits and then US. I don't see anyone waiting in the wings to take up the slack.

Perhaps whomp on expeditionary things like carriers, and emphasize a brown shoe blue water navy including most especially submarines?

Blogger rcocean December 18, 2015 11:49 AM  

Vox has Rush's number on this one. Come Feb or March, when we have a winner in the repub primary, Rush will will be telling everyone to fall in line and support Candidate X, because no matter how bad they are, they're better than Hillary. As shown by the election of Ryan to speaker, and McConnell's behavior - there is no difference. The problem is conservatives simply will not put in the effort to primary these RINO's.

Blogger Keith Glass December 18, 2015 11:49 AM  

This is why I quit the GOP years ago. And yet they continue to send my pleas for fundraising.

I've occasionally taped one of their business reply envelopes to a spare brick, and mailed it to them.

They still don't get the hint.

That's right friends, the RNC doesn't even listen when hit with a brick. .

Blogger rcocean December 18, 2015 11:52 AM  

If you want to know why conservatives lose and we get guys like Ryan, just read the comments. Vox brings up the betrayal and the commentators start talking about Jesus, or Rand Paul, or political theory, or how we need a 3rd party. IOW, everything except how to actually change things in 2016.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar December 18, 2015 12:07 PM  

You shouldn't bash Rush. He's the guy that got this ball rolling. back when he started his AM show, he was the lone voice in the wilderness that swam against the torrent of Bullshit for the Dinosaur media. Their virulent hatred for him is he started the snowball that destroyed them when everyone realised he was right and all the others were lying. He has to limit his criticism because he's in their media studio. But without him none of this would ever have happened. he was the first to point out the endless lies and BS of the now doomed Dinosaur media who are going extinct and selling themselves to Billionaires for $1.

Blogger Robert Coble December 18, 2015 12:15 PM  

I was just looking at the photo of Speaker Ryan et all, self-congratulating on passage of the $1.8 TRILLION spending bill, and had a strange thought (for which I am infamous):

Is Speaker Ryan doing the "Muslim chic" facial hair solidarity thing or was that just his normal "shit-eating" grin?

Blogger Stilicho #0066 December 18, 2015 12:19 PM  

@63 then why didn't Rush do that in 2012? The fact is, the GOP establishment has lost Rush. I'd suggest you quit taking shots at your own side just because you don't agree on everything.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot December 18, 2015 12:20 PM  

Some good news, German school kids are no longer affected by holocaust programing
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/schoolchildren-attack-refugee-classmates-horrific-7007505#ICID=sharebar_twitter

"Rioting teenage children attacked and seriously injured refugee classmates invited into their school in Germany.

Police in Leipzig said a mob of German children, aged 13 and 14, attacked the refugees. "

Here I thought the Madame Secretary show rewrote history too much. New Orleans to get rid confederate statues.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/12/confederate_monuments_lee_circ.html#incart_big-photo

Swedish TV cant say immigrant http://www.eutimes.net/2015/12/swedens-top-public-broadcaster-bans-use-of-the-word-immigrant/

Anonymous patrick kelly December 18, 2015 12:23 PM  

@32 WKL: "the enemy still has his castle, termites and all, and I don't think any contractor in the world can build another castle before the next election."

A castle without a proper King is just a fancy flop house for rats and cockroaches.

OpenID Jack Amok December 18, 2015 12:24 PM  

The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened. It would have been far better to have allowed Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to continue unfettered. The resulting catastrophe would have been laid at their door.


You are incorrect in your strategic assessment. We already knew Obama, Pelosi, etc. were corrupt morons. What they Tea Party did was give the GOP the chance to definitively show what it was. Now we know they're not the answer either, so we can move on to Plan B.

If it hadn't been for the Tea Party, we'd still be talking about whether Bohener and McConnell were the answer, and we'd just be four years later getting starting on something that might work.

Blogger Chiva December 18, 2015 12:30 PM  

@49. Amen brother.

OpenID jsolbakken December 18, 2015 12:37 PM  

The problem is the New World Islamoid-Marxist Order, which has been able to completely capture the DemonicRat party, and also the Republican party at the national level. Down-ticket, grass roots Republicans are not all so rotten to the core like the national office holders in Washington DC are, nor are they as rotten as the Republican National Committee is. It is still reasonable to consider voting Republican in your state and local elections, but it is obvious to all that voting Republican for Congress or President is not enough.
Thing is, Republican voters are pretty effing stupid not to have realized a long long time ago that they have been voting for the WRONG EFFING REPUBLICANS!!!!
For example, WTF is Juan McLame doing representing Arizona in the US Senate? Are the Republicans of AZ brain dead? Yes, they must be. And WTF is wrong with the voters of North Carolina doing sending back that POS Lindsey Graham to the US Senate term after term after term? WTF??? Republicans have nobody else to blame besides themselves and their own brain dead gullibility, include Rush Limbaugh.

OpenID sigbouncer December 18, 2015 12:38 PM  

"For example, my incumbent U.S. Senator is Richard Shelby -- one of the few Senators who's looking out for actual Americans."


Wasn't Shelby one of the main supporters of Biden's '91 Crime Bill that wanted a federal ban on all semi automatic firearms?

Blogger FALPhil December 18, 2015 12:39 PM  

@62 That Would Be Telling:

Navies are big and slow targets these days. Technology has reduced their effectiveness dramatically. When you have a bomber flight that can launch 20 nuclear-tipped cruise missiles in standoff mode that can fly under radar, what's the point of SSBNs?

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 18, 2015 12:40 PM  

@47. GreyS
Yep

The GOP is returning to its roots -- the party of Clay's pupil, Lincoln.

There was nothing wrong with the original Tea Party. Then, it jumped into all other political issues when it was co-opted.

OpenID jsolbakken December 18, 2015 12:41 PM  

oops, Lindseed Graham Cracker misrepresents South Carolina, not North Carolina. I always get my Carolinas mixed up, as I do my Dakotas and my Virginias.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 18, 2015 12:41 PM  

@62 "but that would be largely precluded without some entity keeping the sea lanes open."

The US should keep pirates beat down in the Western Hemisphere. But if the Chinese want to keep shipping us their crap, let them police the South China Sea.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 18, 2015 12:45 PM  

@66 Rush was good as the scrappy underdog during the regime of Clinton. Once Bush the Lesser was elected, Rush became the water boy for the Republicans. He is now part of the dinosaur media. I will say though, he isn't as bad as Hannity.

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2015 12:51 PM  

> The problem is conservatives simply will not put in the effort to primary these RINO's.

When they do, the establishment backs the opposition. That's happened several times.

> I've occasionally taped one of their business reply envelopes to a spare brick, and mailed it to them.

I wonder why I never get those. :) I'd send them a check for my $0.02 with it, of course.

> IOW, everything except how to actually change things in 2016.

OK. We're listening. What's your solution?

Blogger Sherrie December 18, 2015 12:58 PM  

"For example, my incumbent U.S. Senator is Richard Shelby -- one of the few Senators who's looking out for actual Americans."

Wasn't Shelby one of the main supporters of Biden's '91 Crime Bill that wanted a federal ban on all semi automatic firearms?


I'm an idiot. I was thinking one thing, but typed another. I MEANT to type Jeff Sessions. Not Richard Shelby. Sorry for that confusion.

Blogger Nate December 18, 2015 1:03 PM  

"I'm an idiot. I was thinking one thing, but typed another. I MEANT to type Jeff Sessions. Not Richard Shelby. Sorry for that confusion."

Jeff Sessions.


Roll Tide.

Anonymous The SPY December 18, 2015 1:21 PM  

"You're like Alex Jones and his duped controlled opposition. You'll name everyone... except the real ((( culprits )))."

You're insinuating it's the Kosher Mafia, but look behind the Mafias veil and what do you see? Ahh, yes, the Roman Office of Inquisition. Yes indeed, those pesky Jesuits of which Ryan and Boehner are both members.

Behind every Jew is a Jesuit screaming to get out.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 18, 2015 1:22 PM  

@75 FALPhil:

Navies are big and slow targets these days.

Which might be why I emphasized submarines so much. They're still, to our knowledge, well neigh undetectable before they take action.

But I mentioned the black shoe navy (sorry for saying brown previously (black, surface ships, brown, aircraft crew)) because, despite the above problem, they're predators rather than prey when it comes to putting down pirates.

Do you agree that the sea lanes need to be kept open by someone?

Technology has reduced their effectiveness dramatically. When you have a bomber flight that can launch 20 nuclear-tipped cruise missiles in standoff mode that can fly under radar, what's the point of SSBNs?

Because it's excruciatingly difficult to pull off a successful first strike against the Triad; specifically, in the case of those putative bomber ferried cruise missiles, suppose the bombers never make it to their launch points? In addition, it's important to have more general redundancy in the system, especially since we aren't even pretending to test our nukes to see if they still work anymore.

Adding a serious ballistic missile defense would allow us some slack there, can't have a successful first strike with Cold War, let alone the current Russian inventory, if a random selection of your warheads don't make it. (Not to pick on the Russians, it's just that right now they're the only ones even possibly close or within reach of a first strike capability against us.)

Getting back to my most important detailed point, how do you propose to maintain a capable navy using the continental power fleet in being approach?

Blogger Gapeseed December 18, 2015 1:25 PM  

There have been so many strange sellouts over the Obama years that I can't help but think that his secret to rule is systemic blackmail, leveraging the power of spycraft to lean on key people in the legislative, judicial, and media branches.

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2015 1:26 PM  

You know, if things follow through the way it's looking now, Hillary should offer Jeb the VP slot. Then the establishment GOP would have a real reason to vote for her.

Blogger Thordaddy December 18, 2015 1:30 PM  

Let's cut to the "cuckservative" chase and realize that a "default elite" batting from both sides is actually just protecting a small racket of "white" homosexuals firmly ensconced within the MRKN bureaucracy.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis December 18, 2015 1:32 PM  

The national navy must keep its assets within 200 miles of the national border except in the case of the national legislature declaring war

Why would we or should we, ever try to put such an absurd restriction on the Navy? I mean Mr. Limited Government himself, Thomas Jefferson, sent, justifiably I might add, a US fleet to deal with the Tripolean pirates. Having Navy that can span the globe and strike potential enemies before they can strike us is not only entirely constitutional, it's simply fucking prudent. Or would you rather leave the 291 flagged US commercial vessels, and the 794 American owned ships under different national flag, defense entirely to other nations? I would accept the argument that the American owned ships flying another nations flag being on their own but for the US civilian ships flying a US flag, it is entirely their right to expect the Navy to protect them as that is, outside a state of war, the entire reason for the navy in the first place! The US began building naval frigates in 1794 when they realized expecting other nations, or pirates, to not attack their ships as being an entirely divorced from reality.

Blogger dienw December 18, 2015 1:36 PM  

@ 69. KoranBurningFaggot

I thought Katrina drove out the dindus, at least enough to make NO a white majority city. I guess I was wrong.

Blogger OneWingedShark December 18, 2015 1:39 PM  

@4 "The Tea party movement in 2010 was the worst thing that could have happened."

I predicted as much.

@9 "It's going to take an absolute blasting to the bedrock before things finally get straightened out."

I think that going back to acting like the Constitution's limits matter would do a lot to return liberty to the people.

Blogger dienw December 18, 2015 1:43 PM  

75. FALPhil
We um gottum lasers (the evil eyes of light) and titanium inertial rods ( very heavy clubs) in space; whatum we um need obsolete things like planes, boats, tanks, armies, and trains? We um safe. We um can go back to teepees and hunt buffalo.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis December 18, 2015 1:55 PM  

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Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis December 18, 2015 1:56 PM  

@75

Because SSBNs are harder to detect? I mean look, everyone talks about how drones are going to revolutionize air to air combat but how many people have considered the implications for SSBNs or attack submarines. We have always had a much more difficult time tracking items under the sea than in the air. You could develop a fleet of drone SSBNs about the size of whales, or perhaps even smaller, and have them move about in the migratory pattern. Or just develop certain SSBNs to park just on the continental shelf of a potential enemy and lay dormant until the time that they are needed as stationary objects are harder to track than objects in motion.

Anonymous YIH December 18, 2015 1:57 PM  

@66 Joshua Sinistar:
You shouldn't bash Rush. He's the guy that got this ball rolling. back when he started his AM show, he was the lone voice in the wilderness that swam against the torrent of Bullshit for the Dinosaur media.
The problem is he (like the Faux News he paved the way for) is now 'the Dinosaur media'. Try calling him (even on 'open line Friday') the odds you'll get on the air are about the same as winning the lottery.
His screeners filter out hundreds of calls per hour - mostly to pick out 'audio fan mail' at random. Same with twits and email.
His function is to read and distill WSJ to the dittoheads - he has become 'the voice of the GOP' and when the time comes, from midsummer of an election year he will step up and do his duty for ''The moastist importantist erection evaaarrrr!!!''

Blogger Chris Mallory December 18, 2015 2:09 PM  

@88 "but for the US civilian ships flying a US flag, it is entirely their right to expect the Navy to protect them "

Let Lloyds, or who ever issues the insurance policy, pay to protect them. If the ships need protection, then there are plenty of private security options they can hire on their own dime.

The only purpose we should use the US military for is to defend the borders of the United States.

Anonymous DT December 18, 2015 2:10 PM  

but it's hard not to look at his past record and conclude that in six months, he'll be calling this "the most important election ever" and urging listeners to vote Republican or else!

Doesn't he support Trump? If he does, and if he holds to that, then I'll give him a pass on "most important election evah!" This time.

I just hope Trump is being truthful and holds to what he is preaching right now. Don't get me wrong, I give him the highest odds of being truthful and faithful. But a fundamental flaw in our system is that no politician is held accountable if they promise A and then do NOT A, even if it is discovered they planned not A the entire time.

Also: the problem with the Republicans right now is that half are traitors and the other half play like losers. And none of them understand Trump is winning because he plays like a winner.

Blogger praetorian December 18, 2015 2:26 PM  

The only purpose we should use the US military for is to defend the borders of the United States.

I could kiss you on the mouth, you magnificent proddy bastard.

Billions for a wall, not one grunt for Israel.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 18, 2015 2:29 PM  

And then, he went full Buckley.

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2015 2:31 PM  

> Doesn't he support Trump?

I don't believe he's supporting anyone yet. But he is telling folks why Trump is being successful and speaking of him in favorable terms. I'm sure he'd be happier with Cruz or even Paul.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 18, 2015 2:49 PM  

All of you would do well to heed Beau's words.

Blogger dienw December 18, 2015 2:58 PM  

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Anonymous RamBam Thank You Ma'am December 18, 2015 3:04 PM  

You're insinuating it's the Kosher Mafia, but look behind the Mafias veil and what do you see? Ahh, yes, the Roman Office of Inquisition. Yes indeed, those pesky Jesuits of which Ryan and Boehner are both members.

Behind every Jew is a Jesuit screaming to get out.


You got that backwards. Behind every Jesuit is a scheming (((YKW))) pulling the strings.

Look who bows to whom:

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2015/09/pope-francis-shows-whos-boss.html

Blogger dienw December 18, 2015 3:06 PM  

@ 95. Chris Mallory

Let Lloyds, or who ever issues the insurance policy, pay to protect them. If the ships need protection, then there are plenty of private security options they can hire on their own dime.
The only purpose we should use the US military for is to defend the borders of the United States.


This. Is. why. Libertarians. Are. Idiots.

Why don't we apply this policy domestically: there is no need for any police force except to defend the city buildings and limits; everyone else should just depend on their insurance company to protect them: life insurance companies for their daily lives out and about and house insurance companies for their homes.

If you cannot afford insurance or you miss a payment...well...tough luck.

Blogger jay c December 18, 2015 3:12 PM  

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Anonymous Ain December 18, 2015 4:18 PM  

@18, I'm with you there. But it goes back at least as far as the French revolution, and likely centuries before that.

Blogger ray December 18, 2015 4:22 PM  

Traitors and liars. Whine that they are powerless because they don't control Congress. So when they control Congress, they do nothing. Except strut around and fill their accounts with money. And no, Rush Limbaugh does not have what it takes to dislodge them.

Yes, Nancy Pelosi (and her friends, of all political persuasions) DOES rule the United States. Rush and the Repubs can't face that truth, either. If you tried to stand up to her, he and his pals would be right there with The Beatdown, too.

Even after seeing the evidence of what Planned Parenthood really is, the Cuckpublicans happily pour more money into the purses and pockets of these slavering, grinning predators. The 'conservatives' fund the very persons who torture and murder the next generation of Americans, who ensure those kids never enter the world. Why? Because it's A Woman's Choice. And protecting A Woman's Choice is sufficient reason to legalize and fund any and all manner of evil, and call it good.

You build a wall around your country, all that does is pack the evil in more tightly. It's the White Woman that subjugates you, from the legislatures and television studios and court-chambers. Not brown types cleaning motel rooms.

Blogger Jon M December 18, 2015 4:44 PM  

But wait, there's more! One thing always mentioned, but never discussed it the timing of the expiration for this deal. It only funds the government through September 2016. Think about *that* for a minute. The deadline for passing the next fiscal budget falls right smack in the hottest part of the election cycle - just four weeks before the presidential election. So not only did Ryan roll over and show his belly on this deal, he gave Obama all the leverage on the next deal too.

There isn't a thumbs-up emoticon sarcastic enough...

Blogger luagha December 18, 2015 4:50 PM  

By the by, the Post Office will no longer send back bricks by paid-reply-mail. They'll just toss them out.

What you do is fill the paid-reply-mail envelope with as much paper advertising filler of the sort you also get in your mail. You should be able to get a few ounces in, more than enough to take them over the limit of the standard reply-cost. If it's filled with paper and not too heavy, the Post Office still charges for it.

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2015 5:04 PM  

> Why don't we apply this policy domestically: there is no need for any police force except to defend the city buildings and limits; everyone else should just depend on their insurance company to protect them...

I think an argument could be made that this largely the case in many cities now.

> By the by, the Post Office will no longer send back bricks by paid-reply-mail. They'll just toss them out.

What if you put the brick in a box so they can't tell what it is and attach the envelope to the box?

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2015 5:09 PM  

> What you do is fill the paid-reply-mail envelope with as much paper advertising filler of the sort you also get in your mail. You should be able to get a few ounces in, more than enough to take them over the limit of the standard reply-cost. If it's filled with paper and not too heavy, the Post Office still charges for it.

But yes, that's what I always did with Handgun Control, Inc. back when I was on their mailing list. That was the first time I put the $0.02 check concept into practice. The first time they asked me more money I wrote them a letter telling them what I thought of them and sent the check along with it. They cashed the check and kept me on their mailing list for a least two years. Every other letter went back with every bit of their paperwork in the envelope.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 18, 2015 5:38 PM  

@107 Jon M:

But wait, there's more! One thing always mentioned, but never discussed it the timing of the expiration for this deal. It only funds the government through September 2016....

Ummm, that's because the Federal fiscal year ends on September 30th....

Better to ask why the Republican Congress took over 2.5 months past the deadline to pass a budget, and in the ostensibly stupid 2,000 page omnibus fashion.

In theory, there's no reason why they couldn't have the proper 12 appropriation bills for the next fiscal year done well before the election season gets red hot. Not that the post-Nixon budgeting system ever worked very well, but now the Congressional Republicans aren't even pretending to try, or to reform the process.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 18, 2015 6:19 PM  

@17 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

So help me Tom Donohue."
---

And the Democrats can say exactly the same thing, but replacing the above part with:
"So help me Phil Donahue."

Blogger Jon M December 18, 2015 8:19 PM  

@111 Understood. But hold on, because maybe I'm misunderstanding something here. I thought this was a short term budget deal designed to get the appropriations passed for 2017. Meaning that they left the door open for a September 2016 budget fight for the spending in FY 2017.

They could at least have held out for the 2017 budget and appropriations rolled into the deal to actually do that thing they claim will insulate them from media criticism: silence critics in the election season. This deal doesn't look like it will even give the Cuckservatives what little benefit they usually claim for immediate surrender.

Am I wrong there?

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 18, 2015 8:30 PM  

The problem is that thar there is an international agreement not to arm vessels. Commercial shios are more than capable to defend themselves from pirates. They are not allowed the tools to do so.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 18, 2015 8:31 PM  

The problem is that thar there is an international agreement not to arm vessels. Commercial shios are more than capable to defend themselves from pirates. They are not allowed the tools to do so.

Blogger Billy December 18, 2015 10:14 PM  

"Rush is more in line with Pat Buchanan than George Will."--Bullshit. Rush is a neo-con to the bone. I've heard him go on and on about the wonders of free trade, bomb the middle-east, Russia is evil, Putin is a tyrant. He is a magij dirt practitioner also. I actually heard him say that there is nothing special about americans. Its the constitution that makes them special. He blames a country such as Haiti poor conditions on "liberal Politicians'. Detriot poor state of affair's on "liberal Politicians". I truly don't know what he has up his sleeve right now, I suppose he stuck his finger to the wind and felt the conservative climate changing. Limbaugh has been superb at side tracking young impressionable minds towards the neocon camp, that is all he has done. Typically he has one default economic position, that is tax cuts for the wealthy. Basically he's an old school William F. Buckley Cuck.

Blogger Billy December 18, 2015 10:21 PM  

Damn, another thing that bugs the shit out of me. Whatever Zionist bullshit that jew queer Matt Drudge runs on his website, Rush is sure to drool it for 3 hours on his radio show. I'm like damn bro, can't you come up with your own shit, your own ideas. That not the only fucking news/ link site on the net.

Anonymous Hoss December 18, 2015 11:15 PM  

Republicans run for office to get the job, and democrats run for office to get the power. Republicans are more than content to sit back and say "gee, we did the best we could. If only you re-elect me and give us a republican everything, then we can really get something done. Promise."

Anonymous Colorado Confederate December 19, 2015 12:10 AM  

The Republican party has NEVER been that of limited, constitutional government. Founded by Yankees in 1854, that which is derisively called "The Establishment Republicans" has been the driving force of the party ever since.

The Republican party hated those among the ranks who were consitutionalists. Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater, and Ronald Reagan were ultimately despised by their own.

To myself and most of The Ilk, The Republican party is merely a means to an end (ordered peace and liberty) -- and that one of many. It is most certainly not "our party". Never has been.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 19, 2015 2:02 AM  

I haven't investigated this part of the Omnibus bill, however Karl Denninger seems to think that CISA will spell the death of what little free speech remains on the internet.

The Disqualification List For President

As per some of his commenters...
"The US Gov't NOW has the right to inspect EVERYTHING sent over the internet, and hold it as long as they want, for any future investigations. Nothing requires a warrant, and ALL can be used at any point in the future."

If true, that means that everything we say here will not only traced and saved, but it will then become the excuse for charging us with whatever and throwing us in jail. That should quickly shut down any commenting or blogging from anyone the left wants to punish.

But perhaps the ilk has some other take on it..

Blogger James Dixon December 19, 2015 6:57 AM  

> If true, that means that everything we say here will not only traced and saved, but it will then become the excuse for charging us with whatever and throwing us in jail.

That's been true since the Internet started. It's just that at first they bothered to hide it as a secret activity, since they knew it was unconstitutional.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar December 19, 2015 10:58 AM  

Rush is part of the establishment, but he started the ball rolling against it. The GOP likes to believe the donors and their stooges like Reince Priebus and Karl crapweasel Roverrated control the Party, but Rush crushes them at every turn and they have to follow his lead. Being they own the microphone there is only so far he can go, but Rush leads the Party now for all intents and purposes. He's an old Reagan guy and is not fond of the Bush NWo crap. He supports the TEA Party and Sarah Palin's Christian wing, and the GOP Dead Elephants are REALLY AFRAID OF HIM. I go to his site often. I don't know if he has insiders feeding him info or not, but Rush can tell you the next Dinosaur Media news cycle and the narrative at least a week before the Dinosaurs spit it from their tar pits.

Blogger SciVo December 19, 2015 12:12 PM  

Skylark Thibedeau @4:

You're wrong on two points.

One is that the Tea Party was good for showing us how hopeless it is, that there is no political solution, because the politicians do as the donors tell them to, not the voters.

The other is that while you're right about Obama kicking a can down the road, he would've done it anyway. How would the absence of the Tea Party have changed that?

Blogger SciVo December 19, 2015 12:29 PM  

daddynichol @21: When the GOP hits bottom their recovery will be difficult and long if recovery is even possible.

If and when it hits bottom, recovery will be instantaneous and probably renamed, since it's an organization made up of people that know how to organize, and its failure would be one of loyalty rather than competence.

Blogger SciVo December 19, 2015 3:21 PM  

WKL @36: Why were the GOP so convinced that throwing everything else off the table in exchange for oil exports was necessary? Why couldn't we have both?

Bingo. It was a fake compromise where the donkeys and elephants pretended to fight, so that the donor class could get everything it wanted without getting strung up from lampposts.

Anonymous Realist December 20, 2015 8:39 AM  

Gapeseed posted: "There have been so many strange sellouts over the Obama years that I can't help but think that his secret to rule is systemic blackmail, leveraging the power of spycraft to lean on key people in the legislative, judicial, and media branches."

You have hit the nail on the head. It's either bribery, blackmail or both but that's what we're seeing.

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