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Tuesday, December 01, 2015

Grow up or get out!

A Christian university president's message to SJWs:
This past week, I actually had a student come forward after a university chapel service and complain because he felt “victimized” by a sermon on the topic of 1 Corinthians 13. It appears that this young scholar felt offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him, and his peers, feel uncomfortable.

I’m not making this up. Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic. Any time their feelings are hurt, they are the victims. Anyone who dares challenge them and, thus, makes them “feel bad” about themselves, is a “hater,” a “bigot,” an “oppressor,” and a “victimizer.”

I have a message for this young man and all others who care to listen. That feeling of discomfort you have after listening to a sermon is called a conscience. An altar call is supposed to make you feel bad. It is supposed to make you feel guilty. The goal of many a good sermon is to get you to confess your sins—not coddle you in your selfishness. The primary objective of the Church and the Christian faith is your confession, not your self-actualization.

So here’s my advice:

If you want the chaplain to tell you you’re a victim rather than tell you that you need virtue, this may not be the university you’re looking for. If you want to complain about a sermon that makes you feel less than loving for not showing love, this might be the wrong place.

If you’re more interested in playing the “hater” card than you are in confessing your own hate; if you want to arrogantly lecture, rather than humbly learn; if you don’t want to feel guilt in your soul when you are guilty of sin; if you want to be enabled rather than confronted, there are many universities across the land (in Missouri and elsewhere) that will give you exactly what you want, but Oklahoma Wesleyan isn’t one of them.
You will notice that unlike Missouri president Tim Wolfe, who resigned in the face of SJW pressure, Mr. Piper will be keeping his job. About the only thing that could possibly have been better is if he announced that he had expelled the SJW student who complained. And talk about sticking the rhetorical landing!

"This is not a day care. This is a university!"

As the brand name universities succumb to social justice convergence, the Christian universities will rise in both educational value and social cachet. Which is why they need to set policies in place to defeat SJW entryism now. 

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61 Comments:

Blogger Chent December 01, 2015 8:08 AM  

Such a beautiful message. Thanks for sharing

OpenID paworldandtimes December 01, 2015 8:08 AM  

Would you consider overnighting a copy of "SJWs Always Lie" to Dr. Piper?

PA

Blogger Chent December 01, 2015 8:12 AM  

Such a beautiful message. Thanks for sharing

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 01, 2015 8:25 AM  

Good on him.

Although if you read Mike Adams's column on Townhall.com, some Christian universities have been just as bad as secular ones in kowtowing to these assholes.

Blogger Salt December 01, 2015 8:26 AM  

The world has no use for SJWs.

Blogger Matthew Peak December 01, 2015 8:27 AM  

I'll venture a guess that attendance at OKWU will rise and that will raise the ire of gaytopianites.

Blogger Krul December 01, 2015 8:38 AM  

I like this bit:

"We don’t believe that you have been victimized every time you feel guilty and we don’t issue “trigger warnings” before altar calls."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 01, 2015 8:41 AM  

I would send my sons to this university for several reasons. This letter from the president of the university. Second, the women there will be almost as good looking as the women in Texas. Third, this university is in Bartlesville, OK. The R&D center for Phillips 66, Emerson, ConocoPhillips, etc. I guarantee the STEM program will be top notch, with the accompanying internship and networking opportunities.

Anonymous Poli_Mis December 01, 2015 8:44 AM  

I had decided that college was really something I would actively steer my kids away from but since this university is relatively nearby and eschews cultural marxism, I will be reconsidering.

Blogger KCFleming December 01, 2015 8:49 AM  

Expel the little snot.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 01, 2015 8:52 AM  

I guarantee the STEM program will be top notch

Unfortunately not, I just looked at their catalog and they're awful to the extent they even exist (no T or E, no computer major beyond web front end work, no physics beyond the first year, calculus based physics not required for the science majors (!), Analysis is taught "infrequently", more specifics on request). The science degrees would set you up for life as a lab tech, but without taking serious initiative getting into a grad school, especially one of any worth, would be difficult to impossible.

Blogger Nate December 01, 2015 8:53 AM  

I am more and more convinced that this whole childish mindset is a result of the millennial natural collectivist tendencies and the unintended consequences of the anti-bullying crusade.

its difficult to communicate just how omni-present the anti-bullying crusade is. Everywhere you look there is some anti-bullying message somewhere... and everything you can imagine has been defined as bullying.

So the result is.. you have a bunch of people who are left totally incapable of dealing with even the most miniscule amount of adversity.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 01, 2015 8:56 AM  

Telling, that is really surprising. Oh well, what a wasted opportunity for the university. World class science, petrochemical industry and innovation in the same town and OKWU isn't taking advantage of that?

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 01, 2015 9:00 AM  

In other news, apparently Disqus is now flagging comments that use the word "Nazi". I have no idea why, since it allows "National Socialist German Worker's Party". Is Disqus based out of Europe or something?

Anonymous kfg December 01, 2015 9:04 AM  

"... and everything you can imagine has been defined as bullying."

Except, of course, the vicious bullying of the "anti" bullies.

Anonymous Hrw-500 December 01, 2015 9:08 AM  

Slightly off-topic, I saw this article from the Wall Street Journal about a smaller share of high-school grads are heading to college.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/11/25/a-smaller-share-of-high-school-grads-are-heading-to-college-especially-poorer-ones/

The folks of Conservapedia even interpret that article (and take it with a pinch of salt) then I quoted:"Setback for liberal claptrap: more people reject Obama's attempts to get them to go to college, and college attendance is declining rather than increasing as liberals want. Now that colleges are a liberal wasteland, should employers be banned from requiring college degrees?"

Anonymous CarpeOro December 01, 2015 9:14 AM  

"So the result is.. you have a bunch of people who are left totally incapable of dealing with even the most miniscule amount of adversity."

On a trip taken a couple of years ago to Napa visiting vineyards, I met a male of our species that had retired (can't be sure but I think from teaching). He was working in the shop for the vineyard, dealing with tours and general customers. He talked about how the stress put on the vines of very little water was one of the reasons for the quality of the wine. "Unlike people, the wines improve with adversity." My jaw just about dropped. Needless to say, his retirement to a place where people could drink alcohol and ignore him was a net positive for what ever previous organization of which he was a member.

Blogger Rabbi B December 01, 2015 9:24 AM  

A university president who sincerely cares about the well-being of his students enough to tell them the truth and stand by it.

Refreshing.

Blogger Red Jack December 01, 2015 9:30 AM  

Nate,
I got a lecture from a group of Army people that I was "Bullying" them.

I was talking about football.

When I pointed out their job literally required them to do things to either break things and kill people or help others do the same, they all shrieked. Not all were women.

Note, this wasn't all REMF's. There were some guys who were "in theory" front line tip of the spear types.

When the military is more worried about bullying than their job, your civilization is toast.

Blogger Gaiseric December 01, 2015 9:32 AM  

The military as an organization is toast. One of the key elements of our civilization was a mistrust of the FedGov, though—including the full time military. Citizen militias for self defense (which obviously need to spend more time on the southern border) would be a better deal for us anyway.

Blogger buzzardist December 01, 2015 9:33 AM  

While I greatly respect this university president for his message, most Christian universities are already full of SJWs. Some "Christian" universities have separated themselves from their founding denominations in all but name, such that they function essentially as secular institutions. These places are typically full-SJW in orientation.

Where churches still oversee universities, it's a mixed bag. To the extent that American churches have already given in to SJW entryism, those universities are already lost causes. SJW entryists flock to positions like university boards like flies to honey. As soon as they establish themselves in a church, SJWs will be looking to get appointed to a board, and then they will use this board to appoint SJW leaders. A lot of Christian universities are already lost to SJW entryism in this manner, too.

Even where denominations have remained true, kept the SJW hordes at bay, and appointed good university leadership, many Christian universities are still stock full of SJWs. The faculty are mostly the product of large, leftist graduate programs where it's not uncommon, especially in the Humanities and Social Sciences, to have 95 percent or more of the people in a department, faculty and grad students alike, identity as progressives. SJWs abound among the faculty at Christian universities because the hiring pool is made up almost exclusively of SJWs. Among many of the administrative staff, too, there are lots of SJWs. Oklahoma Weslyan seems to be managing to resist a lot of the calls for "diversity," but a look at a lot of other Christian universities, even some of the better ones, reveals lots with offices of diversity and the like.

(Bonus--Everett Piper railing against SJW-defined diversity: http://www.okwu.edu/blog/2014/10/talking-points-president-piper-nakedness-nonsense/ )

At most schools, as at Oklahoma Wesleyan, a fair number of students are SJWs, too, to the point that they feel comfortable, as this student did, trying to throw their weight around. Imagine the shock for this wayward student when the tactic backfired on him! That was unexpected for him, probably because he's surrounded by friends and faculty who largely share his values.

So while I applaud Everett Piper and have no doubt he will keep his job, I'm not optimistic about Christian universities. Their cachet may rise somewhat as other universities slide faster into SJW oblivion, but most Christian universities are well on their way down the same slope. They will only look like better educational options because they're a decade or so behind the other universities in their suicidal slide. The ones that last longest will probably be the smallest, like Oklahoma Wesleyan, with fewer than 500 residential students and fewer than 1000 students total, including distance learning programs.

Blogger buzzardist December 01, 2015 9:36 AM  

Evidence for my pessimism about Christian universities? The flap in the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities (CCCU) this year when two members moved to accept hiring same-sex couples is all one needs. The CCCU has been the umbrella organization for committed Christian universities, but it dragged its feet in expelling these two member schools. Instead, the CCCU board tried to open a "dialogue" and wanted to move the two offending schools to "affiliate" status. The right move was to expel them outright. When the CCCU didn't do this, only two member universities left the organization. Oklahoma Wesleyan was one of them. In a multiple-option survey of CCCU university presidents, an overwhelming majority of CCCU member presidents favored either demotion to affiliate status (75 percent) or retaining full membership (20 percent). A quarter of the presidents were open to expelling the two universities that opened their doors to hiring same-sex couples, but precious few Christian university presidents were willing to unequivocally stand in favor of expulsion. So, yeah, that's where it sits. Based on their current leadership, 20 percent of Christian universities are utterly lost to the SJWs. As much as a further 75 percent are just shy of being completely lost. As few as 5 percent (at most 25) are nominally remaining true to Christian values. Only two were willing to resign to stand up for their values.

The CCCU was saved (for now) from this madness only when the two offending institutions opted to resign rather than cause further division. CCCU wasn't going to expel them, and this probably would have destroyed CCCU's reputation, but the organization was kept on life support on a technicality.

And so I fully expect most Christian universities to collapse in coming years, too. Their demise will be fast once conservative Christian parents realize how corrupted these schools have become. CCCU universities carved out a niche catering to conservative Christian families who do not want to send children to liberal institutions. When Christians realize that most CCCU schools are every bit as leftist as secular institutions, those universities will lose almost the entirety of their student base, as well as the support of a lot of their alumni. This threat, frankly, is the only thing keeping most CCCU universities from going full-SJW right now.

Anonymous WillBest December 01, 2015 10:07 AM  

So the result is.. you have a bunch of people who are left totally incapable of dealing with even the most miniscule amount of adversity.

I was at a dinner with a woman who was raving about how enlightened her son was for dealing with a person that said mean words by telling the teacher and how that was the best possible and most civilized response. I am not ordinarily one to get into it with other parents over raising their children, but having spent a good chunk of elementary and middle school being bullied, I have a soft spot for boys that are being abused by their mothers on this issue.

Blogger Gaiseric December 01, 2015 10:08 AM  

I'm more optimistic than you are. I think Christian Universities—at least some of them—will quickly regroup, to the extent that their parent churches to which they are attached aren't already lost causes themselves. People have a tendency to react relatively quickly to economic stimuli, especially when unburdened by ownership by committee and big bureaucracies. In this regard, Christian universities are in a much better place to respond to changing demand in their potential customer base than secular, state-funded universities.

Online based alt.universities are, of course, the best suited to deal with this relatively rapid change in demand.

Blogger Carl Philipp December 01, 2015 10:09 AM  

And the Christian universities that publicly stand up against the SJWs will swell and flourish, and people will notice. It will separate the wheat from the chaff in public, and that is a good thing.

My inside source at Hillsdale tells me they've publicly stood up against pressure before. Among other things, they got some really passive-aggressive treatment from the DoE because they don't actually keep track of the racial makeup of their students. They just... don't ask the students what race they are. They don't care.

Blogger Rabbi B December 01, 2015 10:19 AM  

@25 Carl Philipp

I have subscribed to Imprimis for years. They seem like a quality institution from what I have seen.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 01, 2015 10:21 AM  

Like individuals and other organizations, universities will increasingly be forced to choose sides. Most, including most with "Christian" in their name (including the prominent Catholic ones), are already lost, and will only be exposed as such. Some will pull back from the insanity, clean house, and be the better for it.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 01, 2015 10:33 AM  

Reading about stuff like this makes me glad I got my degree and started my career shortly afterwards. These limp-wristed faggots are better suited as suicide bombers in 4G warfare against the incoming Islamic hoard.

Blogger Nate December 01, 2015 10:35 AM  

"Note, this wasn't all REMF's. There were some guys who were "in theory" front line tip of the spear types. "

This is a primary reason I am not that concerned about the US military when Round 2 starts. What men-folk are left in the US military will be on our side. These weepy vaginas will be on their side.

We could be outnumbered 100-1 and still have them out manned.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 01, 2015 10:44 AM  

The surprising thing is that the student went to church at all, he must have come from an MCC church.

Everywhere you look there is some anti-bullying message somewhere... and everything you can imagine has been defined as bullying

Many people don't understand that the anti-bullying is about victim (class) empowerment, not avoiding victimization. Dan Savage has used his taxpayer paid speaking engagements at public schools to bully Christians and STR8 people

In other news, apparently Disqus is now flagging comments that use the word "Nazi".

It seems intermittent that's why some people go with NOT SEE or knot sea.

When I pointed out their job literally required them to do things to either break things and kill people or help others

I tell people you should never expect soldiers to do anything well other than break things + kill people and I was a medic. There seemed to be a lot of bad medics & nurses in the military, the only medical training the military had that was designed to have people fail was the Expert Medical Field Badge.

Blogger Gaiseric December 01, 2015 11:02 AM  

These limp-wristed faggots are better suited as suicide bombers in 4G warfare against the incoming Islamic hoard.

I have it on good authority that the correct way to use the phrase is "slack-jawed faggots."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HayFxnfFgZk

Blogger kurt9 December 01, 2015 11:09 AM  

I think this is the detritus of helicopter parenting, the PC schools encouraging the expression of self-esteem totally divorced from any actual accomplishment, and perhaps vaccine injury.

Blogger kmbr December 01, 2015 11:20 AM  

**I had decided that college was really something I would actively steer my kids away from but since this university is relatively nearby and eschews cultural marxism, I will be reconsidering.**

It's Oklahoma, a relative bastion of normalcy. I am sure they'll receive a wave of thousands of "refugees" and "dreamers" in response to this sign of self preservation and sanity.

OpenID Jack Amok December 01, 2015 11:29 AM  

but having spent a good chunk of elementary and middle school being bullied, I have a soft spot for boys that are being abused by their mothers on this issue.

Yeah, I think it's the single moms (including some who haven't divorced their wedding party accessory yet) who are behind this. They're looking for government and society to take the place of the fathers who would teach their kids how to stand up to threats they can handle and would protect them from threats they can't.

Blogger buzzardist December 01, 2015 11:35 AM  

@24 What exactly do you expect Christian universities to do in order to "regroup"? Yes, the parent churches, if they aren't lost, may redouble efforts to rein in wayward universities by replacing trustees and firing presidents. They will keep in place firm Christian community standards for students and faculty alike.

But will they actually start clearing house, as in firing professors and possibly even expelling obnoxious students? I highly doubt it. Maybe a couple universities like Oklahoma Wesleyan will go this far, but most won't.

Here is the problem: a lot of faculty at a lot of Christian universities are SJWs. They keep their SJW beliefs very guarded much of the time because they know their universities won't approve. It's only around other faculty and select students whom they've come to trust that these faculty open up. That's how it was at the Christian university I attended in the 1990s, and I'm certain it's no better now. Of all the professors in my two majors, I can think of only one who was decidedly not an SJW (or at least deferential and accommodating to them)...and the other SJWs in his department conspired to deny him tenure on the charge that his scholarship wasn't good enough, which was essentially code for "you're too conservative for us."

Christian universities are full of such people. They lie on job applications about agreeing with community value statements and even faith statements because they are desperate for a job. They are warned early by other faculty to keep their heads down, so as not to flag themselves as SJWs to students, the university president, or trustees. They're embedded in these universities, and they stay hidden for their entire careers.

Most students aren't perceptive enough or don't get close enough to these professors to realize the extent of their progressive beliefs. But the professors nonetheless teach a radically liberal, culturally destabilizing agenda. They don't do so as openly as at secular universities, and they mask the teaching in gospel language. But, in the end, it's still cultural Marxism, no matter how one dresses it up.

At plenty of Christian universities, even ones that outwardly seem thoroughly solid in their faith statements and community standards, you'd be lucky to find a single professor in an English department or Sociology department who didn't fit the above description.

Blogger buzzardist December 01, 2015 11:56 AM  

I am sure they'll receive a wave of thousands of "refugees" and "dreamers" in response to this sign of self preservation and sanity.

The federal government has been using the Office of Refugee Resettlement for decades to slowly reshape demographics and politics in America. Refugee numbers are never very high, but several hundred refugees a year in mostly rural, heavily conservative, strongly Christian states has an effect over time. An eventual voting bloc of 10,000 people or more all settled more or less within a few zip codes of each other can make a big difference.

Blogger Matamoros December 01, 2015 12:13 PM  

@4 Take a look at this, as a for instance: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/30/church-of-england-appoints-nudist-bishop/

OpenID sigbouncer December 01, 2015 12:28 PM  

19 - Military

Rhadi Ferguson has a great line on complaints from the Military from his Coffee With Rhadi 10/21/10 Part One: The Pussyfication of NFL and other rants by Rhadi Ferguson. Rhadi's entire rant/dialogue is well worth listening to.

But if you wanna just skip to his rant on Military complainers it starts at the 2:52 mark of the youtube video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K39DuHIImjY

Blogger Beau December 01, 2015 12:29 PM  

They don't do so as openly as at secular universities, and they mask the teaching in gospel language.

That is why vigilance, articulation of the gospel, courage, and stick-to-it-ivesness are required of students whose allegiance is to Christ. How can one effectively stand as a pastor unless trained to overcome scorn and deceit from false friends? Such training comes when moved by the Holy Spirit a student begins the process of raising his hand to object.

Blogger Sithicus December 01, 2015 12:33 PM  

We need chaplains like these ones:

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Chaplain

Blogger Daniel December 01, 2015 12:36 PM  

Wheat and chaff. If a chaffy SJW can't spread his disease at your school, that is the best Jesus says you can hope for.

Blogger kmbr December 01, 2015 12:43 PM  

** An eventual voting bloc of 10,000 people or more all settled more or less within a few zip codes of each other can make a big difference.**

True. I live in AZ. Where did they resettle all the Hurricane Katrina victims? Here and Texas. Hopefully many left as our welfare system is not very generous, comparably. Though many stayed and via chain migration multiplied.

Blogger Beau December 01, 2015 12:50 PM  

If a chaffy SJW can't spread his disease at your school, that is the best Jesus says you can hope for.

What's with the defeatism? How about the public conversion of a popular progressive professor? A shift from hubris, "I haven't preached on atonement in 13 years because it's such a bummer of a doctrine." to humility, "What you say is different than what I've been saying; but, obviously - it works. Let's go with what you've said." Classroom confrontation of ideas. Will you bear witness to Christ?

Blogger Lovekraft December 01, 2015 12:52 PM  

My standard response to liberal/sjw co-worker bleeding hearts lately is to say "you obviously haven't been paying attention."

This either gets them razzled, which is fun, or opens the door to alt-right manosphere blogs.

OpenID paworldandtimes December 01, 2015 12:59 PM  

"you obviously haven't been paying attention."

That's pretty good. I've already had to listen to SJWish middle-aged women at work snark about Trump. My way of silencing them while winning the audience is to accuse them: "You're talking so much about him I'm starting to think you have a crush on him."

PA

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 01, 2015 1:02 PM  

These limp-wristed faggots.... correct way to use the phrase is "slack-jawed faggots."

The slack jawed faggots usually have well defined abdominal muscles.

Blogger buzzardist December 01, 2015 1:09 PM  

@39 That's a nice sentiment, Beau. I certainly don't want to discount the importance of prayer, determination, vigilance, and willingness to act. But the reality is that most students aren't going to be trained in ivory-tower theories like cultural Marxism before heading off to college. Even those who are carefully brought up in biblical teachings will struggle to recognize a leftist theory, especially when that theory is coded and shrouded in the language of the gospel and taught by a purportedly Christian professor. Secular-leftism-as-heresy just isn't taught in today's churches. One would almost need to go through several years of college-level teaching in order to be prepared to recognize it.

"I don't like what you say. I can't say what I don't like or why I don't like it, but this pricking in my heart tells me something is amiss." This is about the best I could have managed in college in response to the leftist theory that my professors peddled in coded language, wrapped in the gospel. And that's not much of a challenge, certainly not one that will bring down the weight of the church, trustees, or university president onto a professor. And, frankly, I was more conversant in these theories than 99 percent of my undergrad peers. For me, I was several years into grad school in a secular institution before I was able to recognize the depth of the SJWism among my undergrad professors. Plenty of my intelligent, but less intellectual peers have never figured this out, and more than a few fell for the deception.

Christian universities rely largely on leftist, secular institutions to staff their academic ranks. The vast majority of people coming out of these institutions, especially in the Humanities and Social Sciences, are SJWs. These professors view it as their mission to recast leftist, secular, progressive, SJW ideas as Christian ones, and they do so persistently and subtly.

As long as this situation exists, Christian colleges are in peril. To save themselves, these universities need to clean house, but the purge would leave most schools without any professors to teach in scores of departments. To rid themselves of SJWs, these universities would have to cease being universities. That's how pervasively SJWs have taken over academia, even at Christian schools.

Blogger buzzardist December 01, 2015 1:18 PM  

@43 And, Beau, it's not defeatism. This is recognizing the field of battle that we are on and what the enemy's position is. If people keep walking into most Christian universities thinking that they are on friendly ground, Christians are going to keep getting eaten up by secular, SJW thinking. Know your enemy.

I also don't think it's defeatist to say that it's time to abandon a lot of these Christian universities. They are rife with leftist professors. There is no way for the universities to purge all of the professors and restaff themselves with non-SJWs who have the credentials to allow the universities to keep their accreditation. So maybe it's time to stop sending Christian kids to such universities. A very rare few are probably still O.K. Oklahoma Wesleyan certainly seems to have a solid president, and if he is a reflection of the faculty, then it's one of the few worth saving. But my alma mater? I wouldn't feel too badly at all if conservative Christians stopped sending their kids there at all. There is still some good there, but I suspect we'd be better off letting the infected institution destroy itself, while we build something new and strong.

Anonymous Discard December 01, 2015 2:55 PM  

Choose another path. Read good books on your own. Learn a trade. If you're is smart enough to belong in college, then you're smart enough to do well at a skilled craft. If college is the road for you, work and save until you're 22 or so. You'll be less vulnerable to the SJW Narrative by then, if you've been out in the real world.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 01, 2015 3:06 PM  

@19 Note, this wasn't all REMF's. There were some guys who were "in theory" front line tip of the spear types.

So when they come up against a citizen militia that is not afraid to kill to protect themselves, their families and their communities, they'll likely fold up like a cheap suit.  Good to know.

Blogger Sheila4g December 01, 2015 3:34 PM  

@48 Buzzardist -
Your points about Christian universities apply equally to all levels of Christian schools. The problems are almost identical = almost all their teachers originate from the same source as those who end up at public school, i.e. university education departments. They imbibe the same SJW theories, the same "teaching" techniques, and utilize the same language. We began home schooling our younger son when his Christian school hired a large number of new teachers, all of them purportedly Christian young women, all with strong SJW tendencies. Most of the older teachers were fine, and some were superb, but the younger ones were universally awful.

Add to this Christian textbooks which, over the years, have added massive quantities of retconned history, page after page regarding numinous Negroes, plus mothers whose main concern is being "nice," and you end up with a very expensive, slightly more select version of public schools, with fewer violent non-Whites. Of course, all their custodial staff will be illegals, and they'll increasingly add Negro scholarship students, and then the Chinese come looking for a more challenging academic environment, and soon the only difference is the uniforms (and the girls push the limit with those as well).

Blogger Beau December 01, 2015 5:02 PM  

That's a nice sentiment, Beau.

No. It was a victory, hard fought over the course of a semester. I learned how to stand up for Christ. Victory is possible when we forsake the safe spot of acceptance and open our mouths. The gospel stated puts the lie to all it's counterfeits.

Blogger Beau December 01, 2015 5:18 PM  

And, frankly, I was more conversant in these theories than 99 percent of my undergrad peers.

I wasn't, and I still won. Our host here called me a slowpoke a few years back, and so I am. What wins? Declaring the gospel in dark places. It is a decision within the grasp of each believer.

Blogger Bradford Walker December 01, 2015 6:34 PM  

I find the similarity between SJWs and Jihadis interesting. Both groups win by entryism. First stage is by stealth, playing nice and lying to the rest of us until they build a critical mass of population in a targeted area. Second stage is the Victim Politics stage, where they decry the rest of us as being against them and therefore justifies their violence (rhetorical and literal) against us in an attempt to attain majority status in the area. Third stage is Domination; they openly tyrannize, purge, and worse to homogenize the area that they just conquered and use it as a staging group for the next push.

Interesting. Now the seeming incoherence isn't so incoherent; they are both moved by the same guiding spirit.

Blogger Michael Maier December 01, 2015 9:54 PM  

What wins? Declaring the gospel in dark places. It is a decision within the grasp of each believer.

Good words,sir. I hope that any and all believing Ilk will live up to them, no matter the cost.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 01, 2015 11:14 PM  

Telling, that is really surprising. Oh well, what a wasted opportunity for the university. World class science, petrochemical industry and innovation in the same town and OKWU isn't taking advantage of that?

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 02, 2015 7:12 AM  

@56 World class science, petrochemical industry and innovation in the same town and OKWU isn't taking advantage of that?

If your fundamental orientation is anti-science, you will not be able to construct science departments and hire competent faculty.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 02, 2015 7:34 AM  

@57: Their problem is that they're tiny, at 500 residential students. The smaller you are, the less you can offer, see for example the world's top science school, CalTech, with an undergraduate student body only twice the size. It has the usual engineering departments, some well respected, including a legendary aerospace one, but doen't offer undergraduate degrees in that or civil engineering. And without graduate STEM programs, OKWU is also lacking a lot of the funding and manpower that enables undergraduate programs.

It's clearly a decision to not try to be everything to everyone, hence their not even trying with physics, just the complementary subjects of biology and chemistry, and of course math.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 02, 2015 7:59 AM  

One other issue OKWU has with STEM is that without a body of graduate programs in the US that at least tolerate conservatives and Christians, their students simply aren't going to be able to get into grad schools. It's already bad enough when you don't have graduate programs yourself, the most important consideration for acceptance into a graduate program is the ability to do research, and next to having a professor tell the department to accept the application of a particular student, the best is having a professor at the undergraduate school known and trusted by one of more professors at the grad school vouch for the student's ability to do research.

So, realistically, the STEM undergraduate majors at OKWU are going to tend to be terminal degrees, setting up the students to be lab techs, K-12 educators, or simply people who've gotten a degree in a hard subject and are therefore better equipped for the real world of business than someone with a generic "business" or liberal arts degree. As it is, overall in the US right now most students with an undergraduate STEM degree don't formally do STEM work, and anyone with a clue will also notice how the government has since the '80s been furiously importing permanent and temporary STEM foreigners to keep the price it pays for STEM work down. Note how only in the last week or two that Ted Cruz switched from proposing to quintuple the annual H-1B visa quota from 65K to 325K, and call for a fatuous 6 month moratorium.

When it comes to science and math, nowadays only natives for whom that's a calling should play that game, and technology and engineering can be very iffy.

Blogger Desiderius December 02, 2015 8:52 PM  

Beau,

"What's with the defeatism? How about the public conversion of a popular progressive professor? A shift from hubris, "I haven't preached on atonement in 13 years because it's such a bummer of a doctrine." to humility, "What you say is different than what I've been saying; but, obviously - it works. Let's go with what you've said." Classroom confrontation of ideas. Will you bear witness to Christ?"

Yes.

The Lord works in mysterious ways. We are commanded to call Nineveh to repentance. If they heed the call with true repentance, we are called to mercy. To do less is a failure of faith in Christ's redeeming power.

The vast majority are followers. God is fully capable of converting the leaders if such is His pleasure.

Blogger Akulkis December 03, 2015 1:39 AM  

Ehhhhh... Warhammer....and in fact, pretty much all of Fantasy Flight Games is the gey.

How in the fuck can anyone screw up Cosmic Encounter????

Yep... they managed to over-price and under-deliver on one of the simplest-to-produce yet otherwise sophisticated games ever.

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