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Saturday, December 12, 2015

Mailvox: we are all Spartacus

An anonymous reader shares his experience with SJW attacks:
I've just finished reading your book "SJWs Always Lie" (great book, thanks for that!). Like you, I was following GG from when it was still #burgersandfries.

Even though I'm no longer a gamer (I was a pretty hardcore gamer a decade ago, but work got in the way), pretty soon I recognised the importance of what was happening (overt censorship on 4chan of all places!) and found myself switching from observing to supporting the movement on IRC and the image boards, as well as funding & helping 8chan cope with the influx of users that were jumping the 4chan ship.

Eventually I resumed using my Twitter account as the action moved there.

Since I've never had a problem standing by my opinions I've always used my own name on the Internet. And it's not hard to find where I live from a simple search on my name, so I've never had to worry about doxxing.

This changed when [a major SJW went after him] and eventually it became apparent to me that the best course of action would be to discontinue using twitter under my own name and not respond at all to whatever the charge was. Luckily this all blew over in a few weeks.... I absolutely hate that I had to back down. I feel strongly I shouldn't have had to back down. Anyway, now I'm as "unfragile" as one could get: independently wealthy, no care for reputation & ready to kick some SJW ass.

PR-hungry SJWs are setting up one scam "anti-abuse" "support" organisation after another, with the clear purpose of getting to people in a fragile and/or vulnerable state of mind to indoctrinate them into the cult of SJ. One telltale sign of this is that they invariably start by isolating their "clients" from any pre-existing support structure.

I was thinking it might be a good idea to counter by setting up a support organisation for SJW targets. A real anti-abuse organisation.

If we can get to targets with practical and legal advice (Cernovich maybe?) before they shoot themselves in the foot by publicly apologising or even resigning we could severely limit the impact these attacks have. This could easily be structured 1:1 on the strategies in your book.

And with a big enough, partly or mostly anonymous, support network of sympathetic employers we could perhaps even get people new (possibly even better) jobs in the event they're still fired. That would completely take away any "power" these offendotrons have and effectively declaw and defang our common enemy.

I'd be willing to fund & support such an endeavour if we can get a critical mass of allies together. I'm terrible at PR though, but I figured you may be up for it.
I am indeed. I'm still getting my head around how to tackle these various projects; the wargame one is the first one that we've consciously set up but there are some other independent offshoots by various Ilk that have begun taking shape. This is something that requires Brainstorm discussion, however, so I'm going to invite the emailer, and the heads of the various offshoots, to participate as panelists.

Is this something we should do before or after Christmas? Brainstorm members, share your thoughts, but do so anonymously. Due to recent attempts to target the Dread Ilk on Facebook, I want EVERYONE who comments here regularly to shift to using anonymous names and/or numbers. 

VFM can identify by their numbers. Note that I'm going to issue new numbers soon since too many of the old ones are connected to personal identities. I'll do the same for Brainstorm. Everyone else, start using names unrelated to your personal lives and interests. It's not a joke. There are active attempts, by SJWs and Republican politicos alike, to "map the Alt Right topology". They are doing this because they want to identify as many of you as they can and then expose you in order to put social pressure on you, which includes disemploying you.

You've seen what they've done to me, what they are still doing to me on a daily basis. But not only do I not care about social pressure, their attempts only make me, and others like Mike Cernovich, more popular. So, they are starting to switch from the hard public targets to the softer targets of our supporters.

What we're going to do is render those attempts useless. Note that when you are commenting with your new handle there is ZERO need to point out that X is really Y; we will recognize the thoughts and styles soon enough. But if you are not a genuinely hard target, you should be setting up alternative Twitter and Gmail accounts now, don't kid yourself into thinking that you are more antifragile than you are. Unless you can legitimately afford to walk away from your job tomorrow due to badthink, please go to the trouble involved. Some of you are already doing this, but I want all the Dread Ilk to do so.

This will also permit the use of drive-by commenters as virtual shields, as they'll be the only ones who are readily tracked down and most of the SJWs activities will be consumed in futile misdirection. Misdirection is always the better part of valor.

This isn't a cultural war we've chosen, but it is one that the SJWs have thrust upon us. And we are all Spartacus.

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Anonymous Deep Fried Brisket December 12, 2015 7:51 PM  

Vox, I work in the political world and would love to help out with something like this. I'm not going to elaborate here but I've had to deal with this first hand. There is a definite need to help prevent more politicians from becoming cucks and to give them advice when they get in this situation. If I email you could you pass along my email address to Spartacus?

Blogger VD December 12, 2015 7:53 PM  

If I email you could you pass along my email address to Spartacus?

Absolutely.

Anonymous tristan December 12, 2015 7:57 PM  

I suggest the session occur before the new year; whether before or after Christmas, I am indifferent.

How confident are you that Brainstorm is safe?

Blogger Alien December 12, 2015 8:01 PM  

Like my new handle?

Blogger maniacprovost December 12, 2015 8:04 PM  

I suppose the parallels between an open source code of conduct and a cellular organizational structure are obvious.

I'll think about going dark, but my efforts are primarily in real life networks, not online. Anonymizing innocuous non sequiters is not that critical.

Blogger VD December 12, 2015 8:05 PM  

How confident are you that Brainstorm is safe?

Reasonably, so long as people choose handles that are unrelated to them. Identification is entirely optional. There are always SJW spies at the open ones, of course, just as there are reading here.

Blogger Hammerli280 December 12, 2015 8:06 PM  

Thank Goodness I don't use Twitter. One measure I'd also suggest is using different handles to comment on different sites.

Blogger Durandel Almiras December 12, 2015 8:10 PM  

I'd prefer the Brainstorm after Christmas rather than before, but no matter the date I will definitely attend.

Blogger VD December 12, 2015 8:11 PM  

I'll think about going dark

It's not going dark. Think of it as going... shadow.

Anonymous Faceless December 12, 2015 8:13 PM  

It's good to break with the old pre-minion identity so that we can fully cleave to the new identity.

Blogger Caedryn - VFM #54 December 12, 2015 8:20 PM  

I'd prefer after Christmas, personally, and can offer what i know about being a half-savage digger.

Blogger newanubis December 12, 2015 8:25 PM  

Another excellent idea, Spartacus. I'd certainly like to be on the mailing list of directives and perhaps a decent way to ferret out infidels may be to review x's comments right here over the years. Shouldn't take all that long to ascertain ideological loyalties.

Blogger newanubis December 12, 2015 8:25 PM  

Another excellent idea, Spartacus. I'd certainly like to be on the mailing list of directives and perhaps a decent way to ferret out infidels may be to review x's comments right here over the years. Shouldn't take all that long to ascertain ideological loyalties.

Anonymous weka December 12, 2015 8:31 PM  

Noted. Have removed facebook links from my blog and google as well as I link at times to here am changing handles.

Anonymous Laz December 12, 2015 8:32 PM  

They can try to disemploy me, but my boss would just laugh at them.

Anonymous Agent X December 12, 2015 8:34 PM  

The earlier the better. We should also have multiple offensives. Start meaningfully targeting SJW leaders. Like the one who cost Tim Hunt his job. Let's cost her her job.

Anonymous Applesauce December 12, 2015 8:44 PM  

Test

Anonymous Diego Destiny December 12, 2015 8:49 PM  

I am reasonably anti-fragile, but I will comment here with a different handle just in case. This is an excellent idea for those who are not. I await the details on the Brainstorm and look forward to it.

Anonymous Nxx December 12, 2015 8:57 PM  

I was thinking it might be a good idea to counter by setting up a support organisation for SJW targets. A real anti-abuse organisation.

From a strictly meta-political perspective SJW mob persecutions are anti-democratic because they encroach on the state's monopoly on violence.

In theory, in a democracy the state is the sole agent empowered to punish people without their prior consent.

In theory, the democratic state's use of violence is legitimate because we, the subjects of violence, have a say in the state's governance. Arguably, we consent to the state's use of violence against us.

And yet, here we have non-state private entities (SJW mobs) who impose on people what they can and cannot say, what they can and cannot do. Those who disobey are subject to violence, i.e., punished via economic strangulation.

The SJW mobs, and persecution networks in general, are sharing the monopoly of violence with the state, but, unlike the state, nobody voted them in. They self-appointed themselves the power to create rules and the power to punish. No consent was asked for and no consent was given.

We therefore live not in a democracy but in a democracy-tyranny hybrid where the monopoly on violence is a duopoly held by two entities; the formal democratic state whose violence people consent to and the informal tyrannical persecution networks whose violence is inflicted without consent.

Blogger Neanderserk December 12, 2015 8:59 PM  

The Ilk are indeed fortunate to serve a Dark Lord who condescends to testudo towards his quick-spawning minions.

Still, the deterioration from Leonidas to Spartacus is disturbing. One hopes the progression halts well short of Andy Dufresne.

Blogger Lukas Brunnor December 12, 2015 9:00 PM  

Like my Grandpa always said, "the best defense is an offense so vicious that it makes your enemies wish their mothers had swallowed the load that created them." Yeah... Grandpa was crazy but he makes a good point.

Blogger The King's Man (0007) December 12, 2015 9:07 PM  

Once I'm issued a new VFM number I can make a new email address to go with it and maybe a new Twitter account (I think they might be requiring phone numbers for new accounts now). But I'm wondering how far it's reasonable to go in trying to stay anonymous. I'm not sure that any new identity would be harder to trace to my real one than the pseudonyms I use currently without doing things like using Tor. Would using Tor be a reasonable precaution? What about other precautions?

Blogger IM2L844 December 12, 2015 9:07 PM  

My footprint is too long and wide. The best I can hope to do is compartmentalize my vulnerabilities. Besides, people need to be able to discover it's customary to present me with offerings on the anniversary of Lepanto.

Blogger Lukas Brunnor December 12, 2015 9:08 PM  

Thanks for the heads up Vox. I have changed who I comment as several times since I began reading here, and this current handle is related to a pen name I created for my blog. That said, how much mis-information a name generates can also be a useful metric for choosing it.

Anonymous VFM #0189 December 12, 2015 9:08 PM  

I'm more interested in jacking up their stupid maps than protecting myself, just because I love the counterattack.

Blogger VD December 12, 2015 9:14 PM  

My footprint is too long and wide. The best I can hope to do is compartmentalize my vulnerabilities

It's not all about straightforward protection. It's about misdirection, sowing confusion, and so forth. For example, I find it rather remarkable that people consider me to be so prolific and to require so little sleep... and never consider the possibility that there is more than one Vox Day.

Blogger VD December 12, 2015 9:15 PM  

That said, how much mis-information a name generates can also be a useful metric for choosing it.

Perhaps everyone should choose Twitter names based on SF SJWs. That would be pretty damned amusing. Who wants to be Steven Gould? Who will be Mary Kowal?

Blogger The King's Man (0007) December 12, 2015 9:16 PM  

Vox, you might consider having the text at the bottom of the VFM logo centred relative to the edges of the red circle if you're going to reissue it with the new numbers.

Blogger Markku December 12, 2015 9:19 PM  

I've got an even more amusing idea: Let's misdirect all the SJW's to Nate's citadel.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 12, 2015 9:19 PM  

Vox: "They are doing this because they want to identify as many of you as they can and then expose you in order to put social pressure on you, which includes disemploying you."

And here people thought we anons were just being paranoid all along...

Blogger Neanderserk December 12, 2015 9:22 PM  

"never consider the possibility that there is more than one Vox Day."

Belike thy foes are terrified of the numerical implications, and thy followers of the theological.

Anonymous Minion #414 December 12, 2015 9:24 PM  

I have already taken some steps to deter the most casual snooping. Nothing more to be said.

Blogger Salmiakki 62 December 12, 2015 9:24 PM  

You can easily change your Blogger profile name regularly. Bookmark this link:

https://www.blogger.com/edit-profile.g

Anonymous Charles Martel December 12, 2015 9:27 PM  

Need pointers on creating an anonymous gmail.

Anonymous Agent X December 12, 2015 9:27 PM  

Belike thy foes are terrified of the numerical implications, and thy followers of the theological.

Demons do port other demons onto the material plane...

Anonymous 144 December 12, 2015 9:31 PM  

Already started the process... Vox, is the opposition credible enough to warrant not using ID'd mobile handsets for VFM posting activities?

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx December 12, 2015 9:32 PM  

26. VD
... and never consider the possibility that there is more than one Vox Day.

And xir real names are Samuel Clemens.
Brainstorm after Christmas, please. It's too much brainshift right now, and what a great way to begin the New Year.
Gonna miss the old faceless face.

Blogger Melampus the Seer December 12, 2015 9:32 PM  

Done as Dasein.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 12, 2015 9:33 PM  

Salmiakki 62 @33: "You can easily change your Blogger profile name regularly."

I'm not sure that will work -- the profile is linked to a number, after all. For example, yours is 03223931423148258501. And even though the profile details are hidden (good on ya, for that), the number will still serve to identify the various names -- unless that, too, changes with the name.

I don't have a Blogger account to verify that, so if somebody else can confirm or refute.......?

Anonymous Spartacus No.0029753 December 12, 2015 9:33 PM  

Wow, a trio of Vox's. A veritable trinity of DarkLordness. Bind Moggled. I mean, Mind Boggled.

Yeah, I can see why the SJWs would balk at considering that possibility. They knew cloning was bad, but that sort of fear is nothing short of apocalyptic. Or is that apoplectic? eh, whatever.

Blogger White Devil December 12, 2015 9:34 PM  

A great feature of anonymous culture is that you can't prop up your opinions with your social status (or vice versa.)

On the other hand, nothing encourages you to exercise like a Four AM "visitor." Scout motto, etc etc.

Blogger IM2L844 December 12, 2015 9:34 PM  

consider the possibility that there is more than one Vox Day.

Hmmmm, all this time I just thought you were moody.

Anonymous Patrick Nielsen Hayden December 12, 2015 9:35 PM  

SF SJWs, you say?

Blogger Man of the Atom December 12, 2015 9:35 PM  

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Anonymous Aussenseiter December 12, 2015 9:36 PM  

But I like my number...


Well, I guess being a serial lurker helps me out here, but if they want a fight, that's what I signed up for.

Anonymous Patrick Nielsen Hayden December 12, 2015 9:37 PM  

Have I mentioned I eat babies?

Blogger Markku December 12, 2015 9:37 PM  

As for me, my side projects are expendable, and I'm not about to get kicked off Castalia House.

So, come at me, bro.

Blogger automatthew December 12, 2015 9:37 PM  

I'm not sure that will work -- the profile is linked to a number, after all.

Depending on your level of need, changing the obvious name may suffice.

Better opsec would be to maintain several LiveJournal, WordPress, TypePad, and Blogger accounts, because we may have to shut down Name/URL comments again, and you can't give up commenting here.

Anonymous Man of the Atom December 12, 2015 9:38 PM  

Clumsy on the mouse tonight.

Completed as directed, Dark Lord

Blogger Rusty Fife December 12, 2015 9:38 PM  

@34 Charles Martel

First I opened a dead-end account with a paid service. Here are some Scandi ones that I just looked up under 'privacy'. http://www.computersolving.com/computer-tips-tricks/best-paid-for-premium-email-providers/

Second, I opened a google account with the dead-end account as the ID.

That is probably not enough for talented folks to track me down.

Anonymous VFM 360 December 12, 2015 9:38 PM  

Damn, I like my number. Do we have to change?

Anonymous Dr. J December 12, 2015 9:39 PM  

Due to recent attempts to target the Dread Ilk on Facebook, I want EVERYONE who comments here regularly to shift to using anonymous names and/or numbers.

Fuck...them

OpenID radicalsuburbanite December 12, 2015 9:41 PM  

Vox I have never gotten an official VFM#. Do I email you to request one?

Blogger automatthew December 12, 2015 9:44 PM  

radicalsuburbanite,

Yes, that is how you get one.

Blogger Unknown December 12, 2015 9:45 PM  

A new name you say?

Blogger Lukas Brunnor December 12, 2015 9:46 PM  

As for me, my side projects are expendable, and I'm not about to get kicked off Castalia House.

So, come at me, bro.


Sometimes you guys make me wish there was a like/thumbs up button on comments here.

Blogger automatthew December 12, 2015 9:46 PM  

Cuckservative is now autocompleting at Amazon.com. I think that's more important than it's various rankings.

Blogger Vox IV December 12, 2015 9:47 PM  

A new name you say?
Trying again

Blogger automatthew December 12, 2015 9:47 PM  

You should all change your commenting names to Tad.

Blogger White Devil December 12, 2015 9:47 PM  

Any if anyone is especially keen to muddle up twitter, remember that some letters look the same in the twitter font - Lower case 'L' and Upper case 'i' for instance.

Blogger IM2L844 December 12, 2015 9:49 PM  

I think they might be requiring phone numbers for new accounts now

Pretty easy to get a free voip number covertly.

Blogger maniacprovost December 12, 2015 9:52 PM  

Five years ago, a young moderator began assisting Vox Day. After a few months, VD transferred all of his social media accounts to the moderator and said, "Thou art the NEW Vox Day. Go forth and explode the heads of the left wing, and if you find anything inside let me know. It is time for me to retire to Sicily."

The young moderator said, "But sir! How can I carry out such a charade! I'm nothing compared to you, the real Vox Day, a nationally syndicated columnist!"

The elder Vox chuckled. "I'm not the real Vox Day either. You see, five years ago I took over to spice up the WND column. The real Vox Day moved to Italy twenty years ago and was never heard from again."


The moral of this story is, there is no point in creating anything super secure, encrypted, or using anonymized entry points at this point in time, mid December 2015. The organization needs to develop a tick, and then the anonymity can develop another tick. In my opinion, as a purely neutral observer.

Anonymous Difster December 12, 2015 9:54 PM  

I've used the name Difster here almost since the beginning of my blog. My Twitter handle is also Difster (but the account is @LibertyAlerts). Though not as well known, I've never really tried to hide my true identity. In a recent Twitter exchange, someone thought they would be clever and call me by my real first name.

I'm self-employed and I'm Dread Ilk. I am anti-fragile.

Back at the height of gamer-gate I was trying to build a double-blind job board where employers could connect with employees and have fine grain control over how much information was revealed to the other party. Sadly, my actual paid projects got in the way and it never got done. It was intended to be a gamer-gate job board. I had purchased a job board WP theme but it was immediately overwhelmed with bogus signups so I needed something with more control. Then it seemed to die down for a while and I never completed it.

The good news is though, I'm still working on the crowdfunding competitor to GoFundMe, but myself and _______ have both had a massive increase in workflow. So it's still in process, just much slower than we'd like. Standby.

Blogger Kevin Blackwell December 12, 2015 9:54 PM  

I don't understand why you don't just make all the free money off people who lie about you. A man who writes for a newspaper has no interest in something private, and if he brings it out into the public, you just hold him liable for printing false stories about you.

Blogger Donald J. Trump December 12, 2015 9:56 PM  

@39 WaterBoy

I'm not sure that will work -- the profile is linked to a number, after all. For example, yours is 03223931423148258501.

---

Where did you find that number?

Anonymous Vox Night December 12, 2015 9:56 PM  

Patrick you're a dick.

Anonymous X is really Y December 12, 2015 9:58 PM  

Good hunting. I am a hard target and intend to get harder.

Anonymous Julian Savulescu December 12, 2015 10:02 PM  

@62 maniacprovost,

The moral of this story is, there is no point in creating anything super secure, encrypted, or using anonymized entry points at this point in time, mid December 2015.

I blame the schools for this comment. Somebody really ought to burn them all to the ground and salt the earth.

That's right everybody, it's your favorite aspietard :-D.

Blogger Geraldo December 12, 2015 10:05 PM  

Blogger does keep the same ID even when switching names.

Blogger Vox IV December 12, 2015 10:07 PM  

I just created a new account on google. No phone required, no attachment to my old one.

Anonymous Julian Savulescu December 12, 2015 10:08 PM  

I'm going out on a limb here...but I'd say 99% of the people claiming they are antifragile are out of their goddamned fucking minds.

Thought experiment: your mother calls to tell you the teevee is saying you're a convicted pedophile. Do you profit from this increase in negative attention?

Fucking retards.

Blogger Jerk Earnest December 12, 2015 10:09 PM  

Maybe it would be easier to switch to name/url here, and then use the blogger acct whenever VD turns off name/url.

Blogger Markku December 12, 2015 10:10 PM  

I recommend using some service, preferably OpenID. It decreases Blogger's tendency to auto-spam your comment.

Anonymous Linda Graham, your next President of the United States December 12, 2015 10:11 PM  

Easy as Goblin Pie

Anonymous Julian Savulescu December 12, 2015 10:11 PM  

It's like the "Sigma" thing all over again. No, you aren't a Sigma.

Blogger White Devil December 12, 2015 10:12 PM  

99% of the people claiming they are antifragile are out of their goddamned fucking minds.
Or they're just used to being unpopular. Kinda like how some people never felt self-conscious on a stage, even when the audience was transitioning to a mob.

Blogger Jerk Earnest December 12, 2015 10:13 PM  

Hmm - ok. It's kind of late now so I will dig into this further tomorrow.

Blogger Gerry Tork December 12, 2015 10:14 PM  

@34 @50 Buy a burner cellphone... maybe one of those Nokia Microsoft ones. Set up FB, Twitter, PayPal (with gift card visas or masters paid for in cash preferably in another state). NO FRAUD, just never use your real name or number or handle.

Do what the pros do: make a legend. Birthday, place, answers to password challenges, etc.

Follow this back and you'll find a tablet paid for in cash advance an account created two states away with a burner phone to 'verify.'

$75 is cheap (including gas) for peace of mind.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 12, 2015 10:14 PM  

automatthew @48: "Depending on your level of need, changing the obvious name may suffice."

Confirmed.

Unknown @55: "A new name you say?"

Confirmed. Again.

Donald J. Trump @65: "Where did you find that number?"

Hover over the displayed name on your comment, W-P.

Blogger automatthew December 12, 2015 10:15 PM  

OpSec has levels.

If you comment on a WordPress.com blog, the owner of the blog, no matter how technically savvy, can see your IP address. There are numerous tools online that can tell you the likely geographic area that IP is from.

Take away: don't comment on any WordPress.com blog whose owner you do not explicitly trust.


Blogspot.com doesn't provide IP addresses to the blog owner. So non-technical owners can't get your IP. But that is no protection. I have done a certain and unspecified number of clever things to this particular blog so that we can hunt trolls.


Any other domain name on the interwebs? You must assume that the server admin has your IP.


Unless you use something like a proxy or Tor. I cannot guarantee these approaches, but I can tell you that one of the VFMs helped me, about a year ago, to test my IP tracking system against his Tor-using computer. Every single visit by this VFM was recorded by my system under a different IP.

Will this help you against organizations that can coöpt or subvert Tor? No. But that's not the present enemy.

Will it help you against the morons in the front lines? Yep.

If you're going to comment on enemy blogs, wrap it up.

Blogger David Valentine December 12, 2015 10:16 PM  

I doubt i'm "anti-fragile" but hope to do something about it, and glad for this topic coming up.

Anonymous John Rabbit Scalzi December 12, 2015 10:17 PM  

I don't want to give up my VFM#

Anonymous Tad* December 12, 2015 10:18 PM  

You people are paranoid. Nobody cares about a low rent blog with white supremacist loonies ranting about persecution.

Blogger Gerry Tork December 12, 2015 10:18 PM  

Cash AND with an account created two states away with a burner phone to 'verify.'

Also get into the habit of data hygiene. I worked at a major multinational, some of you were in the military. Shred stuff, keep things locked up and secure. Don't get lax.

Anonymous Diego Destiny December 12, 2015 10:19 PM  

Vox, you might consider having the text at the bottom of the VFM logo centred relative to the edges of the red circle if you're going to reissue it with the new numbers.

THE TRAIN IS FINE.

Blogger SirHamster December 12, 2015 10:19 PM  


Where did you find that number?


Mouse over the name. If it's blogger based, there's a link in the form of https://www.blogger.com/profile/[ NUMBER ]

It's unique and would always link to that particular account.

Google isn't built to anonymize you and keep you secure in the Wild West Internets.

Blogger David Valentine December 12, 2015 10:20 PM  


@80 automatthew

Unless you use something like a proxy or Tor
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Now i'm curious to try the proxy thing out.

Blogger Gerry Tork December 12, 2015 10:20 PM  

@80 My OPSEC is excessive but I would be a nice scalp in their trophy case. I don'the crap where I eat.

Anonymous wannabe December 12, 2015 10:22 PM  

"Due to recent attempts to target the Dread Ilk on Facebook"
People need to realize how dangerous Facebook actually is. It seems like ever day you hear about someone getting fired. You shouldn't use Facebook, but if you do, at least use a pseudonym so people don't automatically know it's you.

Anonymous Vox Night December 12, 2015 10:23 PM  

Shut up Scalzi

Anonymous Julian Savulescu December 12, 2015 10:27 PM  

Thinking back, those comments were a little overboard. I blame the caffeine- it makes me all rage-y.

Anonymous Johann von Scalzi December 12, 2015 10:27 PM  

Great idea! Now I can claim another 5 million hits a year!

Blogger Markku December 12, 2015 10:31 PM  

Your comment got autospammed, Julian. If you have a tendency to get all ragey often, Google may have put extra spamminess weight on your ip/browser identity. I recommend the OpenID approach.

Anonymous Julian Savulescu December 12, 2015 10:39 PM  

@76 WhiteDevil,

Or they're just used to being unpopular. Kinda like how some people never felt self-conscious on a stage, even when the audience was transitioning to a mob.

You need to get it through your head that this isn't high school anymore. It is a 4GW military operation conducted by an unknown number of highly invested individuals. Maybe they're amateurs, maybe not. What the fuck do you know about what's going on?

I know it doesn't seem real to you yet...your amygdala will catch up. But you're giving bad advice. This cold war went hot months ago.

WAKE UP

Please note that I am shaming people on purpose. If you lack discipline your enemy will provide it, except the spirit of the thing will be less friendly.

Anonymous Kosh December 12, 2015 10:43 PM  

I have always been here

Blogger Flash December 12, 2015 10:45 PM  

Thanks for the privacy tips. This is my new handle.

Anonymous Dave Gerrold's Cabana Boy December 12, 2015 10:46 PM  

Agree on teh Facebook, I deactivated my account a while back. Don't miss it.

Anonymous Sugar Tits December 12, 2015 10:46 PM  

Please note that I am shaming people on purpose.

Whew...you had me worried there for a second.

OpenID juliansavalescu December 12, 2015 10:49 PM  

Your comment got autospammed, Julian. If you have a tendency to get all ragey often, Google may have put extra spamminess weight on your ip/browser identity. I recommend the OpenID approach.

Yessir, have done. Only when I drink sir.

Heh, spelled my name wrong. Speaking of retards...

OpenID denektenorsk December 12, 2015 10:51 PM  

@22 If you are concerned with drawing attention to yourself start with a VPN.

Blogger Doom December 12, 2015 10:52 PM  

I remember when people excoriated me for using a silly nom de plume. I don't really need it, but that wasn't the point. I then, and now, wondered if the self-namers (or so they said) were .gov hacks. Not that they aren't attacking, just that they can't fire me. They can attempt to murder me, but not fire me. And, yeah, they do consider and make the effort, in a round about way. But the ones who know can't be shielded from via a pseudonym.

Understand, it isn't just your job. These folks are into academia, medical, government (especially the bureaucratic nuisance types), community orgs, and have numbers and dirt on others with small to middling influence. Your job is just one area where they can and will attack.

Blogger Neanderserk December 12, 2015 10:53 PM  

Shadow mode: You're doing it wrong.

Blogger Flash December 12, 2015 10:58 PM  

How does one become a vile faceless minion?

Blogger Unknown December 12, 2015 11:02 PM  

There seem to be at least two of us commenting as ``unknown.'' Are we cloaked like Romulans, or does everyone but me know who we are?

Anonymous CitizenOutkast December 12, 2015 11:02 PM  

Is this something you'd advise for those of us who read daily/almost daily but comment only occasionally? I only use this name here and on WND. Maybe a couple of other places, and my real name is not attached to it at all.

Anonymous SS December 12, 2015 11:03 PM  

I've been off Facebook for over a year. Deleted my account. I am fragile and know it working for a fortune 50 corp. SJWs are heavily represented around me.

I stay on good behavior around anyone new for a time until I can read them. I've had mostly the same coworkers for about 5 years now so it makes life easier.

But being somewhat vulnerable limits what I am willing to do online so I don't comment a lot here or on Twitter. Especially don't talk anything personal if it can be avoided. Above is probably the most I've disclosed to people I don't know in the past decade.

Anxious to do anything I can to assist or be involved in this new op.

Anonymous Charles martel December 12, 2015 11:05 PM  

Thx. All set

Anonymous WaterBoy December 12, 2015 11:17 PM  

Unknown @104: "There seem to be at least two of us commenting as ``unknown.'' Are we cloaked like Romulans, or does everyone but me know who we are?"

*sigh*

No, you are not cloaked since you chose to use a Blogger account. You are Unknown #04802991559947782419; the other Unknown #17334279801586162832 (aka "Vox IV") also used a Blogger account.

Accountability = Traceability

Therein lies the paradox. Heed automatthew @48.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot December 12, 2015 11:23 PM  

No one will guess who I am

Anonymous VFM #187 December 12, 2015 11:23 PM  

I rather like my number, but if I must receive a new one I shan't complain.

I think Spartacus' idea is a very good one, especially the network of sympathetic employers. The enemy has plenty of people who are willing to get them a new job if they get fired, due to many companies being too sympathetic to the SJW cause for their own good. We currently have nothing like that, which leads many on our side to refuse to stick their necks out because they know they will get fired and have trouble finding a new job. Especially since many on our side have families, unlike SJWs who are mostly single people without dependents.

Anonymous SS December 12, 2015 11:23 PM  

Is comment moderation on? I posted and it showed up at first but after refreshing disappeared.

Anonymous Boobs December 12, 2015 11:25 PM  

Trump sucks, go Rand Paul

Blogger The King's Man (0007) December 12, 2015 11:26 PM  

THE TRAIN IS FINE.

So witty. And totally appropriate.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot December 12, 2015 11:27 PM  

maybe a new Twitter account (I think they might be requiring phone numbers for new accounts now).

Buy a cheap burner phone but wait until all the moslems restock after San Bernardino

Blogger Markku December 12, 2015 11:27 PM  

I released it, but I'm just about to be off. Moderation is in normal settings, but I'm guessing Google's algorithms have gotten suspicious of the sudden changes in commenter names.

Again, using any service for "Comment as" decreases probability of getting autospammed.

Blogger The King's Man (0007) December 12, 2015 11:38 PM  

If you are concerned with drawing attention to yourself start with a VPN.

I'm not much concerned, but this post has me wondering whether I should be. I know my way around VPNs and Tor, but I haven't been motivated enough to bother with either of them routinely. Wondering whether I should start.

Blogger OneWingedShark December 12, 2015 11:39 PM  

@62 "Thou art the NEW Vox Day. Go forth and explode the heads of the left wing, and if you find anything inside let me know. It is time for me to retire to Sicily."

No, no, no, it's obviously:
"Good night, Westley. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

Blogger Markku December 12, 2015 11:40 PM  

Look at it this way: You may not be preventing them from learning your identity eventually, but at least you'll be wasting a lot of their time.

As for me, too late. I've already been on national television and the biggest newspaper, on centerfold. (NO, NOT THAT KIND OF CENTERFOLD!)

Blogger Jean Scalzi December 12, 2015 11:40 PM  

And it seemed like a good idea ("Jean Scalzi") but by the time I'd set up all the false trails to support the ID, and made sure I didn't appear as "Unknown" I see I'm preceded by two fellow imposters!

The target that worries me a bit is Castalia House. I seem to recall that Vox, true to his medieval approach, uses a Windows XP machine; I assume Castalia's server is a little bit more of a hard target?

..Jean

Anonymous Vox Trump December 12, 2015 11:46 PM  

Changing handles is annoying

Blogger White Devil December 12, 2015 11:48 PM  

Julian Savulescu missed my earlier comment.

KoranBurningFaggot
maybe a new Twitter account (I think they might be requiring phone numbers for new accounts now).
Use too many hashtags together early on or at random and you'll be vulnerable to spam reporting. If you're caught as spam, you'll need to use a number or make another account. I chose to use new accounts until one "stuck."

Blogger The King's Man (0007) December 12, 2015 11:48 PM  

Buy a cheap burner phone but wait until all the moslems restock after San Bernardino

Can't do that in my country without providing ID, but I'll look into IM2L844's VOIP suggestion.

Anonymous Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan December 12, 2015 11:58 PM  

For all we ought to have thought, and have not thought
All we ought to have said, and have not said
All we ought to have done, and have not done
I pray thee God for forgiveness.

Anonymous weka December 13, 2015 12:00 AM  

Thanks for the hints on how to change blogger. It still links to my Google profile (which is huge as I have used the Google phone infrastructure for years) but it is now not available to be seen, and the handle is no longer my email or name.

As the host said, it is about making life difficult for the slaves of the left. Who model themselves on the Sparticus movement of Berlin, 1919.

And we are all Leonidas.

Anonymous NothingToSeeHere December 13, 2015 12:05 AM  

"Good night, Ilk. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely ban you in the morning."

Blogger weka December 13, 2015 12:09 AM  

If anyone is using an XP computer, run, do not walk, to crunchbangplusplus and get something more efficient and more secure: and if (like this weka) you dislike the social justice weenies who seem to infest debian, go instead to Korora and install the xfce or cinnamon flavour.

No one in the evil league of evil should use Windows, for security vulnerablities if nothing else. Apart from John Ringo, but he needs the penance.

Anonymous Geretrudis December 13, 2015 12:10 AM  

Since Vox's update, and after reading "Loki's Child" I am feeling averse to all social media and most online venues. I am in the process of dumping all things windows, google, FB, twitter,yada yada. I covered the cameras and microphones with duct tape a long time ago, so it's probably time to get super serial.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx December 13, 2015 12:13 AM  

@109. KoranBurningFaggot

No one will guess who I am

Nope, not a chance.

There is a bottleneck- the various fine mensches can activate large for clemens, but not the other way around. That's impossible. They could activate for each other in various ways as cells, but that currently requires going through the same impractical bottleneck, a clunky exercise we've seen used a couple times. If the mensches were backstopped somehow by autonomous subsets of each other, they could become more... socially active. That is similar to part of "the emailer's" thinking. Think about online ways, short of setting up an entire alternate economy, to help out your ilken when they come under attack without yourself becoming a target.

Anonymous Goodnight December 13, 2015 12:14 AM  

CitizenOutkast, I've been reading VD since the WND days and have all of his books but have only commented a couple of dozen times a year. Even so, I changed my handle and started reading through a proxy in the last year. Unfortunately I have a sensitive job so I'm as fragile as a champagne flute. YMMV.

Anonymous NickNyberg December 13, 2015 12:15 AM  

Everyone just use excessive ellipses, so we can throw them off the trail

Blogger Vox IV December 13, 2015 12:34 AM  

@Unknown
The previous unknown was detritus from setting up a new account. Blogger asks for a nick when you try to post, if you haven't set one. It sets the nick, but only after it posts the comment.
--The unknown Unknown, not Unknown you know?

Blogger Vox IV December 13, 2015 12:36 AM  

Everyone just use excessive ellipses, so we can throw them off the trail

But... I just... and you just didn't... so how come... and then he...
You bastidge.

Anonymous BoysMom December 13, 2015 12:42 AM  

So, of possible interest to those who understand these things: I've always used BoysMom here. It's not linked to my name in any way I know of. My browser is Pale Moon and deletes history and cookies. I use noscript.
When I set up on Facebook a couple years ago, I used a brand new email address. Since my Facebook presence is 3/4 professional, it uses my name. This new email address was also not linked to the email I use for Vox Popoli Homeschoolers. About six months later, Facebook decided I ought to know Spacebunny and recommended her (I recognized both name and picture) as a friend. I boggled. Facebook persisted for about a month in suggesting her. Sometime later, figuring everything was no longer compartmented, I started using my android for browsing both here and Facebook.
I have no idea how that connection was made, but made it was, so there's a data point for you all who are trying to secure yourselves.

Anonymous Carter December 13, 2015 12:56 AM  

Two immediate thoughts that I'd like to bring up.

Serious alt-right actors need to begin organization now- well before any problems arise. The diffusion of the alt-right is strength and weakness. I have no real life resource, and seeking out people with our views has consequence.

We need real life organization and the beginnings of general org charts. Of course, real names....real risk. Heinlein cut the knot with an AI on the side of the underground. I think we can cut it with OpSec.....and trustworthy people.

We need people we can trust. As thing gets worse, alt-right documentation will be a target. We need someone who, when the Stasi kick in their door, is willing to burn the documents and damn the consequences. The technical side is near-elementary. Almost *universally*- the failure of secrecy is personal, not technological.

We need publically “out” alt righters with influence and balls. The first two names that came to mind were Vox and Richard Spencer.

Second: lots of excited talk about second twitters, and new handles. Very good to see.

But remember- All wars are won on the moral level. Cultural wars are entirely moral level.

Gamergate’s greatest asset was that they started off with the moral highground. Gamergate’s greatest defeat was when some SJWs were able to honestly report that they’d received death threats that ‘drove them from their homes.’

For example- writing Mrs. Stasi about her gun article, both in direct communication and discussion on the blog. It’s mildly amusing to rant about it. But if she publishes that,(“Fascist blogger’s followers threaten my life with Nazi rhetoric” is a good headline that’s been used before) it gives her arguments weight out of their class.

Fighting in the culture wars? You’re the good guys. Public standards are our bread and butter. Vox is the perfect example-his attacks insinuate, insult, and degrade- but on a carefully calculated line. Want to publically advocate our beliefs? You aren’t Vox- he’s the smart man on the far flank, not a dumbass. You’re the good guy- let them lose morally by attacking you.

This is the reason Occupy and BLM fall apart; diffuse organizations, they can generate large amounts of attention, but have no means of controlling it. The BLM protestors who took Bernie’s microphone did more damage to their movement in five minutes than all the arguments on all the internet put together. Any dog can bark and nip. Wolves have discipline.

Blogger Nate December 13, 2015 1:01 AM  

"Even though I'm no longer a gamer (I was a pretty hardcore gamer a decade ago, but work got in the way),"

note how this person knows that he onces was a gamer and now isn't.

I have great respect for that sort of self-awareness.

Anonymous Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan December 13, 2015 1:45 AM  

The free VoIP number approach doesn't seem so easy. Most services are paid, and the few free services require an email address to get one. But the point of the unused VoIP phone number in the 1st place is to get a new email address and other accounts - so that email to email link seems like a weakness.

Is the only real option the burner phone, per @78? Or is there another tip or 2 you can share? Trying to modify my online sword here...

Blogger Vox IV December 13, 2015 1:45 AM  

@134 Carter
For example- writing Mrs. Stasi about her gun article, both in direct communication and discussion on the blog. It’s mildly amusing to rant about it. But if she publishes that,(“Fascist blogger’s followers threaten my life with Nazi rhetoric” is a good headline that’s been used before) it gives her arguments weight out of their class.

That follow-on headline was written before the article was, and would have been published regardless of response. Probably the death threats and rape threats were written beforehand too.

You seem to assume honesty in their attacks, like, I dunno, an anti-GGer wailing that he was forced from his home, in a video recorded in his home.

They can, will and have made up the attacks they need to push the narrative they want to push.

Blogger SciVo December 13, 2015 1:48 AM  

How can I use the phone calls to witness? What should I say?

Anonymous Goodnight December 13, 2015 1:54 AM  

We need someone who, when the Stasi kick in their door, is willing to burn the documents and damn the consequences.

By the time they kick in the door, they probably have all they need on the person and know exactly which pressure points will turn them. And they would rarely even have to go that far.

An enormous amount of SJW power is exercised through local government via implied threats and "coincidences". Most people who aren't inside that world have no clue it's even happening, but an activist can quickly find his free time and disposable cash sucked up making it hard to deal with anything else. If they are kicking down your door then either the other methods haven't slowed you down or you've really seriously pissed off someone with some power (or their friends).

Blogger John Scalzi December 13, 2015 2:11 AM  

@134
I have no real life resource, and seeking out people with our views has consequence.

That's unfortunate. You should have at least a few friends to throw around racial slurs with.

We need real life organization and the beginnings of general org charts.

Real life organization is useful in that a mixture of different communication channels is less fragile. For example, it makes it harder to connect cells if they act online and communicate offline. I do not, however, see the need for org charts. We have the technology to operate as a leaderless movement, which is less fragile.

SJWs were able to honestly report

Do you see your mistake?

-1337kestrel

OpenID Jack Amok December 13, 2015 2:13 AM  

Carter,

Bullshit.

You are operating with an outdated set of assumptions. Or else you want us to operate on an outdated set of assumptions. Either way, shut up. Nothing you're writing here is helpful. We ani't your father's right-wingers.

Blogger Double E December 13, 2015 2:45 AM  

If they expose me to my employer I'll try not to buckle under the pressure and fire myself

Blogger Phillip George December 13, 2015 2:50 AM  

#JeSuisSpartacus

Anonymous Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan December 13, 2015 2:58 AM  

@141 Jack, there's decaf too, you know.

Yeah, org chart is very unwise. Cell structure or nothing. But "nothing useful" is not so. Morale is very important, and the moral level is the decisive one in 4GW. The fact that enemies will lie about it just shows some level of understanding re: its importance. I get that the tone could come off as lecturing, may not have been intentional.

4GW is, by nature, a war of connections. Hence the importance of the "strategic corporal." Motivated friends compound your network, but false friends poison it.

It's a high wire act, for sure. Poison is serious. On the other hand, the power of compounding is very grew, and too many false positives for poison will really add up over time. The KGB used that immune response to destroy a few movements, in their time.

Something to think about, if we're going to be strategic VFMs.

Anonymous MarkoffChaney December 13, 2015 3:04 AM  

I have abandoned my old identity and reentered the fray with a new twitter handle and email address. Do we need to email to request a new VFM number or will it be automatic for those who already have one?

Blogger VD December 13, 2015 3:44 AM  

Changing handles is annoying

Losing your job is even more annoying.

Blogger VD December 13, 2015 3:45 AM  

When I set up on Facebook a couple years ago, I used a brand new email address. Since my Facebook presence is 3/4 professional, it uses my name. This new email address was also not linked to the email I use for Vox Popoli Homeschoolers. About six months later, Facebook decided I ought to know Spacebunny and recommended her (I recognized both name and picture) as a friend. I boggled.

Usage patterns are individual and very recognizable. So much so that FB has automated them.

Anonymous Dead Dog December 13, 2015 3:51 AM  

@133: Facebook trawls your browser history and makes suggestions based on that. I suspect it also trawls 2nd degree connections, like LinkedIn.

Blogger Groot December 13, 2015 4:08 AM  

I am Groot.

I remain Groot.

Groot abides.

Independently wealthy, continuously inventing self-employment.

Brass balls. Great. Big. Brass. Balls. Come get me, bitches. Double-dog dare you. VPN over TOR, via proxy. Plus, it's fun.

Blogger ray December 13, 2015 4:17 AM  

This is some skeery stuff all right. I'm glad I don't comment on this blog.

Anonymous Carter December 13, 2015 4:31 AM  

@139: "By the time they kick in the door."

Actual rebellions/4GW/Civil wars show the opposite- they’re defined by poor understanding and utilization of intelligence. Intelligence gathering in Iraq and Afghanistan is a prime example.

Overestimating your enemy is as bad as underestimating them-and state/local intelligence resources are going to be geared for other things. CIA or NSA isn’t getting into the culture war. Politicos won’t get federal resources on a peaceful political movement. KKK and Neonazis draw resources due to their constant violent threats.


"An enormous amount of SJW power is exercised through local government via implied threats and "coincidences".

Yep- that’s why they need to be "out". But we could go more cloud based as well.


"If they are kicking down your door then either the other methods haven't slowed you down or you've really seriously pissed off someone with some power (or their friends)."

Yes. But ot the KGB, or the SS- people who shove bamboo under your fingernails.

For the forseeable future our issues will range from something like the police raids on Conservatives in Wisconsin to the Black and Tans in Ireland, not the Lubyanka basement.

Very basic electronic protections can conceal information from widespread data collection. This means that physical data confiscation is the only option. The Wisconsin raids already raised a hell of a fuss with no one pushing it,

Consider what the extremely tech and media savvy new right could do with that. To be honest, that sort of open attack would be the best thing a fledgling political movement could hope for.


“least a few friends to throw around racial slurs with.”

There’s a fundamental difference between buddies I can make off color jokes with and useful people I can trust. And an even larger gap between those buddies and someone I’d trust to be able to handle their shit if we ended up like those PUA tools in Asheville.

If you’re mistaking guys who make a black joke at the bar for an ally all the one time pads in Christendom won’t help. That’s the weak spot in your opsec.

“We have the technology to operate as a leaderless movement, which is less fragile.”

And useless. There’s a quote from Snow Crash: “it's the first function of any organization to control its own sphincters”.

Leaderless movements don’t go. Any effective social movement had an immense degree of centralized control.

Rosa Parks wasn’t some random broad who took a stand. She had been carefully coached. The guys sat at lunch counters had training sessions beforehand. Occupy- huge movement, media support- nothing. Because they had no actual goals. Whenever someone tried to make it more centralized, they were shouted down.


Membership allows you to *disavow* people. BLM got the Bernie rally morons because they had no border control. Nothing they could point to in defense.

What’s our goal? “Roll back modernity”? Great. Should we play the long game of going after educational entry, or push for more homeschooling? Some of these things we can pursue concomitantly, but we need to prioritize. ‘Burn it all down” is not a viable plan.


“Do you see your mistake?”

Do you think that in a heavily trafficked issue on the internet, they faked all, or even most of the death threats? I got two or three death threats the other day for mild disagreement on Reddit. Don’t overestimate your enemies or your allies.

“You are operating with an outdated set of assumptions….

K.

@144: Cell structure has advantages for illegal activity- but, we aren’t planning that. Even EU laws would be an *incredible* cultural shift, and we wouldn’t be breaking any of those. We’re unpopular, not illegal. We don’t want isolation, but connectivity- with security. I’m open to suggestion. We want to do a better version of what pot dealers do- utilize social networks to spread knowledge of what we’re doing, safely.

Blogger SciVo December 13, 2015 5:59 AM  

I repeat: if I'm doxxed, I'd like to use that as a witnessing opportunity for Christ. I don't expect to remain anonymous; I don't think it's possible over the next few years. So what should I say when some stranger calls me up to cuss me out?

Anonymous 0007 December 13, 2015 6:22 AM  

Having the number I use as my handle on the creds that I was issued back in 2000 by the agency I worked for, and having never registered on any social media sites, I 'll just keep on keeping on. That handle is recognized by long time non-partisan .gov friends who are so far up the chain they ain't got no place left to go. And if my I have enemies, what are they going to do, retire me twice? My friends know me and anyone else? I. don't. care.

If that's okay with the owner here of course.

Anonymous 0007 December 13, 2015 6:26 AM  

Oh, yeah, I forgot, and I'm in so many .gov data basees that I sometimes get a delay when my dealer calls in a new 4473, heh, heh, heh.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 6:37 AM  

@152 SciVo

There is a bible passage for that. Matthew 10:16-20.

Anonymous Anonymous December 13, 2015 6:42 AM  

I'm X. I'm #XXXX. If any SJW wants to get in touch with my ~employer, contact me and I'll inform myself of your concerns. That is all.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 6:42 AM  

@151 Carter

I expect that IRL meet-ups with local ilk would help create more resilient cells.

Blogger Festus December 13, 2015 6:47 AM  

Secret agent Festus reporting for duty.

Anonymous Anonymous December 13, 2015 7:03 AM  

I love Groot.

Blogger Kyle Searle December 13, 2015 7:20 AM  

One helpful trick is to use seperate browsers for normal vanilla you, and another one for the pseudonym. This way you have less shared history in the browser itself and less likelihood to accidently fuck up.

I use Chrome, in all its data mining glory, for the online staid, boring, unpreposing 'real' me and Pale Moon for the pseudonym. Chrome doesn't know that my pseudonym accounts exist, and vice versa. Then I have a VPN and some anti-cookie/Javascript tools for the browsers, namely uMatrix for Chrome and NoScript for Pale Moon. Some sites (Breibart is a good example) are actually really horrible in terms that they will spread your identity around everywhere with all the JS. Keeping a non-threatening online presence for your real identity is probably better than removing all traces, IMO.

Anonymous Laz December 13, 2015 7:24 AM  

#122. The King's Man (0007)

"Can't do that in my country without providing ID..."

Unless you have to have ID to activate it just buy one from China off of eBay.

Anonymous Laz December 13, 2015 7:29 AM  

@151. Carter

‘Burn it all down” is not a viable plan.

I have a feeling the people here would survive much better than the general population.

Blogger Mint December 13, 2015 7:34 AM  

This will add a twist in my reading habit.

It takes some time to know this handle means a bucket of acid wrap in retoric, that name means high dose of sarcasm in a paragraph etc... *sigh* learning and adjusting time anew.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 13, 2015 7:35 AM  

@151: Carter:

Very basic electronic protections can conceal information from widespread data collection. This means that physical data confiscation is the only option.

As our host sometime says, "You literally have no idea what you're talking about," OPSEC on the net is much harder than you think it is.

For example, while you can make it hard or perhaps impossible for your browser to give up this info, "Browser fingerprinting] works by collecting information about your browser configuration, such as add-ons and the fonts installed, the browser’s version information, or even its clock setting. The combination of these properties is unique for the vast majority of browers." That's a half-decade old technique.

Cell structure has advantages for illegal activity- but, we aren’t planning that.

I wonder if you've been really reading anything our host has said in this discussion, our adversaries don't have to use the legal system to severely damage a bunch of us. And it's been noted before that they are quite willing to use it to destroy people. Linus Torvalds doesn't avoid being alone with a woman at technical events only because of reputational threats. And what's legal today isn't a good guide for what's going to be legal tomorrow as our adversaries get more desperate.

Anonymous RedJack #22 December 13, 2015 8:18 AM  

I have old college acquaintances that work in the political serviced industry. What Vox said is 100% correct. I have not been posting here as often because of family stuff, but I did have one of them mention to me in passing that they were trying to "lock down" alt sites.

He mentioned the rise of the nationalist party in France as something they are trying to stop in the US. Which honestly made me wonder if Trump isn't a stalking horse to smoke people out.

Still, I am known to him and others by my views. I will go deeper (as requested), but I am sure my former fraternity brothers know where and what I am.

Blogger Kyle Searle December 13, 2015 8:39 AM  

@164 That Would Be Telling:

Using different browsers for different activities already makes you fairly difficult to track. Self-learning algorithms can be spoofed if you break their most important weighting signals. It's not like there's some person on the other end tracking you, it's just an algorithm that looks for shared information to apply clustering algorithms on.

If you want to be more sophisticated, use virtual machines (such as Virtual Box) loaded with Ubuntu with Pale Moon or another minor browser installed. This way, even if some company tries to install spyware on your machine, 1.) it's linux, 2.) its firewalled within the virtual machine. If you need to shred the VM image, it's one file.

You must have a VPN installed and tested, of course. Your IP is the #1 thing to mask.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 13, 2015 8:52 AM  

I would suggest that when you register your avatar accounts on Facebook and Twitter that you use another state or even another country as your residence.

I use my Battlestar Galactica role playing character as my Avatar. I registered on Facebook as being from Brachyura City Canceron back when they didn't require it be real. I had to update B.C. to British Columbia now I get Trudeau and Conservative Party Spam.

Blogger James Dixon December 13, 2015 9:04 AM  

> I'm not sure that any new identity would be harder to trace to my real one than the pseudonyms I use currently without doing things like using Tor. Would using Tor be a reasonable precaution? What about other precautions?

For here, Tor is a reasonable precaution, but keep it mind that it does bring NSA attention.

> Who will be Mary Kowal?

Now, Vox, that's Mary Robinette Kowal to us lowlifes.

> You should all change your commenting names to Tad.

I couldn't be a Tad. Not even a Beezle. Maybe a Bearded Spock?

> note how this person knows that he onces was a gamer and now isn't. I have great respect for that sort of self-awareness.

I haven't been a gamer in something like 20 years. I pretty much abandoned gaming when it went Windows only. And now that Steam is finally moving the Linux, the reflexes simply aren't there any more.

I'll have to think about this. My recent unemployment demonstrated that I'm not as anti-fragile as I would like, and won't be for at least another 5 years. My current employer is about as non-PC as you can get this side of Trump, but I don't want to cause them problems either. Probably once the the VFM numbers come out, I'll simply use it for posting and wait out any Name/URL problems. It's a shame, as using my Google account has been very efficient.

Anonymous Been there once... December 13, 2015 9:10 AM  

You know what pisses me the most? Now, I can't just cruise through the comments picking out the commenters I usually read. Now I have to read everyone of those damn things. F---.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 9:13 AM  

I wish there was a samizdat paper on privacy. It's one thing to wave around the phrase "get a VPN and test it" vs. actually doing it.

I'm not computer illiterate; but still don't expect to catch all the holes.

I took a photo once, used a regular camera that didn't have gps information on it, and still when I looked at the meta data it had file data that named the computer.

I'm not sure if that is transfered as part of the file or lost when resaved.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 9:26 AM  

@169 Samizdat privacy

Heck, write a book and sell it at CH.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 13, 2015 9:29 AM  

I would suggest that when you register your avatar accounts on Facebook and Twitter that you use another state or even another country as your residence.

I use my Battlestar Galactica role playing character as my Avatar. I registered on Facebook as being from Brachyura City Canceron back when they didn't require it be real. I had to update B.C. to British Columbia now I get Trudeau and Conservative Party Spam.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 13, 2015 9:36 AM  

Maybe some of the work by the FreeFor types such as Samuel Culper would be of some use. FreeFor generally being centered around WRSA and the place to start poking about.

Anonymous tz December 13, 2015 9:42 AM  

4g culture war.

The SJWs like to carpet bomb. Even when they destroy their own.

But that doesn't work with insurgents scattered across the landscape.

Anonymous Release the Wheeler December 13, 2015 9:43 AM  

Can't spell Spartacus without Sparta

Blogger Nick S December 13, 2015 9:55 AM  

If anyone is using an XP computer, run, do not walk, to crunchbangplusplus and get something more efficient and more secure: and if (like this weka) you dislike the social justice weenies who seem to infest debian, go instead to Korora and install the xfce or cinnamon flavour.

Tails

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 9:59 AM  

@175 Nick S

Does will Tails run on Android?

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 10:13 AM  

@176

Answering my own question. It looks like it would have to boot off an external drive. Tough to do with an Android phone methinks. Might be a good aplication for a Raspberry PI.

Blogger Nick S December 13, 2015 10:20 AM  

Orbot...for the time being.

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis Fulminata December 13, 2015 10:21 AM  

And here I was thinking about changing to my real name. :(

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 10:24 AM  

@177

Further looking; nope Tails runs on x86 processors only.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 10:27 AM  

@178 Nick S

Sweet!

Blogger James Dixon December 13, 2015 10:30 AM  

Rusty: http://www.dailydot.com/technology/tor-anonymous-os-tails-freitas/

Short version, it's being worked on.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 10:32 AM  

I did find that x86 tablets are available. I haven't seen where someone has booted one off an external drive.

Blogger Nick S December 13, 2015 10:40 AM  

And orWall

and Orweb

Blogger Nick S December 13, 2015 10:45 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcf5sh99ze0

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 11:21 AM  

@185 Nick S

Good stuff. Keep it coming.

Anonymous Seanan's Left Cankle December 13, 2015 11:29 AM  

The elder Vox chuckled. "I'm not the real Vox Day either. You see, five years ago I took over to spice up the WND column. The real Vox Day moved to Italy twenty years ago and was never heard from again."

If Vox is real, how come he can spread terror to thousands of SJW's in a single night?

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 11:35 AM  

http://www.b3rn3d.com/blog/2014/01/22/burnerphone/

Interesting website

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 11:41 AM  

Dammit. Didn't see this the last time I set up a fake ID:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2476288,00.asp

It is about anonymous and burner email accounts.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 11:46 AM  

Please correct my proposed procedure:

1. Load Tails on USB and reboot x86 computer per @175
2. Set up burner email address @189
3. Create Google profile with burner email address.
4. Never access VP or the Goole profile outside of Tails.
5. Repeat periodically.

Did I miss something?

Anonymous GRRM December 13, 2015 11:46 AM  

You Cowards, I have recently been inspired to a new character. His name is Moohamad, he leads a group of goat raping savages, until one day he gets raped by a wild boar(male pig) and discovers the love of all things porcine, causing him to leave his 6yo wife Aisha.

Blogger Nick S December 13, 2015 12:10 PM  

There is only so much you can do to maintain anonymity online. The safest thing to do is to assume they (whoever "they" are) already know who you are and are all up in your business. Make your real life as unassailable as possible. Think ahead.

The battle lines are becoming more clearly defined everyday. The media has dropped all pretense of objectivity. It's time to choose a side and prepare for worst case scenarios. I've chosen to side with the intrepid Dread Ilk.

Anonymous Neutronium SnowFlake December 13, 2015 12:14 PM  

Well, the Vile Minions are supposed to be Faceless, right?

There seems to be strategic value in being Faceless in this war. When the SJW's don't know who is doing it to them, their paranoia factor has to go up. It's like Sun Tzu said, war is deception. If we are far, we appear to be near; if we are able to attack, we appear unable. If the enemy is at rest, we harass him. If our enemy tends to be choleric, we try to provoke.

Blogger Rusty Fife December 13, 2015 12:17 PM  

@192 Nick S

Agreed. However, the objective of the OP was to get the ilk to armor up for battle. Sure, if you never taken a hit; you fear the impact.

This armour will instill confidence to those on the bubble.

Blogger Nick S December 13, 2015 12:20 PM  

Well, the Vile Minions are supposed to be Faceless, right?

Right, but it's a tactic; not a strategy.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot December 13, 2015 12:28 PM  

If you’re mistaking guys who make a black joke at the bar for an ally all the one time pads in Christendom won’t help.

The worse things I ever heard said about blacks in work/public environments came from Hispanics.

Blogger Duke of URL VFM#391 December 13, 2015 12:42 PM  

"Due to recent attempts to target the Dread Ilk on Facebook, I want EVERYONE who comments here regularly to shift to using anonymous names and/or numbers."

No sir, although I obey you in all campaigns, I will NOT be pressured by ANYone into hiding behind a false front. If any SJW wants to attempt to attack me, it is welcome to try. I am retired, so I'm immune to employment attack. I put 22 years in the world's largest and finest Navy, (including 2 years in-country Nam - I'm used to being shot at) holding TS clearance (and code-word jobs) for most of that time, so any SJW wanting to go after me on "morality" is welcome to try.
I have a wide circle of friends, most of them also using FaceBook - these range from Michael Z to a dear lady on the Left Coast who battles me over abortion occasionally. NONE of them are the sort to sit quietly by, while some outsider went after me, no more than I would tolerate an attack on them.
I am who I am, and I will not permit anyone to force me into hiding.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 13, 2015 12:51 PM  

Phone number required to setup new gmail accounts? How is if verified that it is you phone number?

My wife has a facebook account, tied different email account. I scrbbed and deleted my facebook account over 3 years ago.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 13, 2015 12:57 PM  

I still remember my old land line number. It is used as an ID in some old accounts.

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