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Monday, December 07, 2015

Reconquesta 2.0 is coming

Donald Trump's proposal is a good start, but it is only a start:
Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump on Monday called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States," the most dramatic response yet to the string of terrorist attacks that have Americans increasingly on edge.

Trump released a statement citing polling data he says shows "there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population."
This isn't the first time that the West has had to deal with the challenge of Muslims invading the West. There are two choices, the Bosnian way or the Spanish approach.

Pick one.

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131 Comments:

Anonymous Til (#385) December 07, 2015 6:53 PM  

See that Overton window moving?

That's what makes me convinced Trump isn't doing some super left wing plot to divide the election.

The left is all about narrative. They would never approve a plan such as this. The guy is moving discussion like you wouldn't believe.

Blogger Salt December 07, 2015 6:58 PM  

The cucks are all over this on Twitter.

OpenID simplytimothy December 07, 2015 7:04 PM  

I am assuming that the Muslim immigration numbers to

Israel
Japan
China
Russia

Are near zero as I confront the usual suspects. I don't have a source except hearsay. Anybody know?

Blogger Stingray December 07, 2015 7:04 PM  

HIllary tweets that this makes us less safe. What is the thought process with that one? I suppose its some sort of variation that words hurt. Wah.

Blogger White Devil December 07, 2015 7:04 PM  

Only Trump can defeat Trump, but he's not going to do it until the media leaves him alone.

All that's left is for Obama to come out and denounce Trump as an existential threat and declare a third term for himself for reasons of national security.

Blogger haus frau December 07, 2015 7:14 PM  

The Christians are commit acts of terrorism crowd is out in full force. A person posing as a Christian on a MIchael Berry FB thread pulled out
Luke 19:27
""I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. 27"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.""
and Mathew 10:34
Matthew 10:34:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
Both of these verses used as evidence that Jesus exhorted his followers to kill unbelievers....see! Just like Islam. These people are shameless. I wish them all to suffer under the diversity to foist on others. There will be no Spanish way in the US. Europe on the other hand, hopefully.

Blogger CubuCoko December 07, 2015 7:18 PM  

Vox, what confuses me is that the only way the "Bosnian way" could be contrasted to the Spanish approach is if you were referring to the *actual* events (the which I've lived through), as opposed to the media version of it.
One of the great ironies about that conflict is that one group of Christians got screwed for trying to use the Muslims to their own ends, and another's attempts at a fair divorce got labeled genocide, and all so that the Muslims would cheer the US/NATO as their white knight. Not surprisingly, rather than being eternally grateful, the Muslims actually felt cheated that US/NATO deprived them of a "final victory" in their jihad, and proceeded to send recruits to AQ, ISIS and other "holy wars" ever since...

Anonymous Fisk Ellingon Rutledge III December 07, 2015 7:19 PM  

Substitute "nonWhite" or "Lively, vibrant, third-world savage" or "anybody but Whites" for "Muslim" and I think we're getting somewhere. I think the terms "total, summary deportation" and "forcible repatriation" might also be added, at a minimum. At this point, I'm looking for Obonzo and his Stalinist pals to try and pull something desperate, high-handed and completely illegal and immoral.

Blogger Krul December 07, 2015 7:19 PM  

@4 Stingray "HIllary tweets that this makes us less safe. What is the thought process with that one?"

She and her ilk ARE less safe. Their continued success depends on the ability to control the acceptable narrative through government and media.

What we have with the Trump phenomenon is the Fifth Estate breaking into the mainstream. It's a real existential threat for those who benefit from what may be called the "journalism-governmental complex".

Pat Buchanan has a column about it.

Blogger Hammerli280 December 07, 2015 7:30 PM  

Everybody is going nuts over this, but I think the electorate will love it.

Blogger Azimus December 07, 2015 7:36 PM  

I would never claim to be an authority on the Bible, but over the weekend I did an pretty extensive study on what the Bible tells us regarding how to deal w/refugees. A couple of the high points:

- The Bible does not use the word refugee anywhere. Since the word refugee is from Latin for "to flee again [and again]", I searched words that had to do fleeing, and foreigners, the most common word being stranger.

- Several well-known Bible characters were refugees, including Jesus, Jacob, Jonah (though his was self-imposed), Moses, etc., etc.

- The nation of Israel was described as a nation of strangers, and that they were to be kind to strangers

- Peter calls Christians strangers as well

- In the OT, God made it clear that the Law applied equally to Israelite and stranger alike. No Taqqiya for the unbeliever - interesting contrast.

- The stranger was protected by the law but not on the same plane as the Israelite - he could not be king, he could not partake in the Passover or eat Holy things, neither could a Jewish woman eat Holy things if she were married to a stranger. A stranger could be charged usury. A stranger was not forgiven his debt every 7yrs like the Israelite was.

- But the most interesting stuff I found was in the OT about "strangers" and sacrifices. Several passages in the Pentateuch describe procedures for sacrifice and how the sacrifice should be without blemish both for the son of Israel and the stranger. This implies, and this is the kicker for me, that the stranger was expected to participate in the worship of God in the Temple. Combine this with God's hatred for introducing idols into Israel, and you have a picture don't you.

And that picture would be, if you wish to live amongst our nation as a stranger, you better be willing to observe our religion and recant of your own. Applying this forward to 2015 Syrians, this would mean they could receive our protection in the US if A) they would convert to Christianity or B) already were Christians - you know, like the ones IS is wiping out.

That's what I learned anyway. I didn't cite the verses but it's all in there. I would find this as an acceptable alternative to what we're doing today, and it would move real Christians in war-torn parts of the world to the front of the line to escape murderous Islam. If that makes me a churchian instead of a Christian, I stand guilty. I would point out that the text I drew from is largely Jewish law, and the Jews seem to have been able to keep their civilization more or less intact.

I'd also be willing to be critiqued by the ilk on this, as long as it was based on scripture.

Anonymous Le Pen Loves Me December 07, 2015 7:38 PM  

Trumps Jewish Banker and Accountant and Son-In-Laws are telling.
Not what we are looking for. Damage Control. We don't care. Evict the Jews like Europe did for Christian Centuries. Trump is a gamma with money.
You ever seen him hit the golf ball? Yeah.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2015 7:44 PM  

@1 Til (#385)

See that Overton window moving?

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DJT doesn't realize there is an Overton Window as he tramples around like a wild bull, It's great!

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 07, 2015 7:46 PM  

I recently wrote this at ROK about the Reconquista:

http://www.returnofkings.com/74081/culture-war-chat-with-quintus-european-crisis-edition#comment-2370988865

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2015 7:46 PM  

@4 Stingray

HIllary tweets that this makes us less safe. What is the thought process with that one? I suppose its some sort of variation that words hurt. Wah.
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If you want to smack around Hillary supporters, mention that she is acting like GWB. How? The other day she said "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance." "Terrorism has nothing whatsoever to do with islam."

Sounds just like the crap GWB used to say.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2015 7:49 PM  

@6 haus frau

The Christians are commit acts of terrorism crowd is out in full force.
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If you want to smack this particular group of cupcakes around, do something like this:

A muslim commits a terror attack: NAMALT!

An imaginary white Christian NRA member is accused of a terror attack: OMG They are all like that!!

Anonymous A Visitor December 07, 2015 7:50 PM  

"The cucks are all over this on Twitter."

@4 You should've seen Krauthammer et. al. on Special Report tonight. What a bunch of *******!

"Everybody is going nuts over this, but I think the electorate will love it."

@10 It shows how far gone the elite are from the country's sentiment (kinda like French royalty right before the revolution).

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2015 7:57 PM  

What Trump is saying is really common sense. The over reaction of the media, Cucks, libs and rags is going to endear him further with Americans, who think the exact same thing.

Blogger Sam Lively December 07, 2015 7:58 PM  

Donald working in perfect conjunction with Vox's launch.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 07, 2015 7:58 PM  

This is great news I just got disappointed reading http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/04/new-firearms-bill-seeks-to-make-guns-as-difficult-to-get-as-abor/21278491/

Apparently this cunt didn't mean that minors will be able to buy guns without parental consent at taxpayer expense. I was looking forward to my taxpayer paid arsenal.

Blogger Krul December 07, 2015 8:01 PM  

@18 Sam Lively -"Donald working in perfect conjunction with Vox's launch."

A little *too* perfect, if you ask me... it's almost as if... ZOMG!

Donald is a sock puppet!

Blogger David December 07, 2015 8:06 PM  

draws sword, raises it high and shouts 'SANTIAGO !!! Matamoros!!'

The Spanish approach, por favor.

Anonymous BGS December 07, 2015 8:08 PM  

See that Overton window moving? It might as well be on a train.

A little *too* perfect, if you ask me... it's almost as if... ZOMG! Donald is a sock puppet!

Can anyone confirm Vox's and Red Eagles whereabouts during the "false flag" moslem jihad on Christmas party?

What if Mark Steyn said "Moslems fear tomorrows terror attack" the day before.

Anonymous Brain Death December 07, 2015 8:09 PM  

This does it. Trump has my vote.

Anonymous Minion #414 December 07, 2015 8:10 PM  

" It might as well be on a train."

And the train is just fine.

Blogger Sherwood family December 07, 2015 8:11 PM  

I suspect that this is part of the Donald's negotiating strategy: stake out an extreme position so that when bargaining time comes you can get what you want. However, if he does actually get elected and does get to put this policy in place, how he will craft a practical policy to do this. Shutting off all travel from the Middle East would be one way but would hardly be sufficient to achieve the goal he wants to achieve. Most Muslims who enter the country have to fly through somewhere else first. So do we quarantine flights from other countries and check to make sure no one with a Muslim name gets on or do we only allow U.S. carriers in to the country which can comply with new policies? That would blow up air travel as we know it and lead to travel to the U.S. and abroad becoming extremely expensive. I am not sure I can come up with a viable way to do it but maybe I am thinking about it incorrectly.

Anonymous Minion #414 December 07, 2015 8:12 PM  

This is a masterstroke really- Obama won't be able to help himself as he comes out IN DEFENSE of Muslims.

Donald will simply point at current events in California.

Stick a fork in folks, my money is on Trump raking in the chips.

Blogger James Dixon December 07, 2015 8:18 PM  

> At this point, I'm looking for Obonzo and his Stalinist pals to try and pull something desperate, high-handed and completely illegal and immoral.

Their standard playbook you mean? Yeah, sounds right.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2015 8:21 PM  

Israel has a wall. Israel has a stringent immigration policy. Israel isn't taking any refugees.

Is Israel racist? Or is it a matter of survival? What is the Cuckservative opinion on this?

Blogger DadOfTen December 07, 2015 8:22 PM  

Interesting to see that Cruz and Paul are submitting legislation to do what Trump said, only with PC language saying stop folks coming in from significantly jihadist countries. Follow the leader.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2015 8:22 PM  

Israel has a wall.

Anonymous Godfey December 07, 2015 8:23 PM  

Are the Cuckservatives angry about Israel's wall? If not, why not?

Blogger James Dixon December 07, 2015 8:24 PM  

> So do we quarantine flights from other countries and check to make sure no one with a Muslim name gets on or do we only allow U.S. carriers in to the country which can comply with new policies?

Have you never traveled overseas?

To enter most countries you need some documents. They're called Visas and Passports. They specify which country you're from and often the purpose for your visit and how long you can stay. They have to be presented on entry to the country.

Blogger Jourdan December 07, 2015 8:25 PM  

Heck, most Muslim nations' passports list the religion of the bearer. Easy-peasy.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2015 8:25 PM  

Israel has an interesting wall. Have you seen it? Do the Cuckservatives want to tear it down?

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum December 07, 2015 8:25 PM  

Trump is the only serious candidate the West has had since Charles Martel.

Blogger Eric Wilson December 07, 2015 8:29 PM  

The First Amendment is dead, long live The First Amendment!!!

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2015 8:29 PM  

Charles Martel could have used a wall. Maybe he could have used a wall like Israel's?

Anonymous A Visitor December 07, 2015 8:31 PM  

@32 Sherwood family is the blog of an American State Dept FSO. They change posts every three years. They've lived abroad, and then some.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 07, 2015 8:35 PM  

@37. He used a buffer state around the Pyrenees, the Hispanic Mark.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2015 8:37 PM  

@39
Do Cuckservatives consider buffer states racist?

Blogger Feather Blade December 07, 2015 8:38 PM  

@25 I suspect that this is part of the Donald's negotiating strategy: stake out an extreme position so that when bargaining time comes you can get what you want.

Well, it works for the Vileprogs... and you know what they say about success - look at was the successful man and find out what he's doing that you aren't.

Anonymous Jasper December 07, 2015 8:41 PM  

"The Bosnian way" includes re-fighting the religious wars every fifty years.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2015 8:44 PM  

A Jew builds a fence around his garden to keep the rabbits out. The Cuckservatives smile and say he's a smart man.

A Goy builds a fence around his garden to keep the rabbits out. The Cuckservatives frown and say he's an evil man.

Why is that?

Blogger James Dixon December 07, 2015 8:56 PM  

> They've lived abroad, and then some.

Then why ask a question they should know the answer to?

Blogger The Other Robot December 07, 2015 9:09 PM  

Send Trump a copy of Cuckservative!

Suggest it via twitter!

Blogger Mint December 07, 2015 9:13 PM  

@11 Azimus
....it would move real Christians in war-torn parts of the world to the front of the line to escape murderous Islam.

Would you propose to move African Christians, Chinese Christians, Vietnamese Christians and lots of other persecuted Christians to USA? At which limit will it stop?

I am a Christian living in the biggest but moderate Islam country which means I can worship with a degree of freedom compare to Christians in Saudi Arabia. I had been asked by well meaning Americans to live in USA in the past when I told them my life here. I am not fatalistic, but if you take out the light then all left is darkness in this land. The martyrs that came from West to spread Gospel died for a purpose here. To redeem nations, there is a price.

There has to be a way other than taking these Christians out of their roots.

Anonymous A Visitor December 07, 2015 9:15 PM  

@44 My guess is that their asking how would you do this specifically. What they're getting at (so I'm reading) is that the Moops are not longer limited to the ME. Many of them live in VWP countries. How do we deal with those individuals? Who do we have do the screening?

OpenID pancakeloach December 07, 2015 9:16 PM  

@11 Azimuth, your definition of "refugee" is far too broad. Not all people who flee for their lives qualify as refugees. However, the Israelites leaving Egypt were certainly refugees, and we know how well that turned out for the Canaanites, don't we?

On the matter of strangers within Israel, I too have noticed that they were expected to assimilate, and Israel was forbidden from accommodating their cultures.

As far as reconquista 2.0, I have not yet come up with a pithy rhetorical sally for FB, but I'm chewing on something along the lines of "Anyone living in America who desires sharia law is not an American, they are either a traitor or an enemy within our gates. I'm willing to be merciful and merely deport them all rather than execute them as befits traitors and foreign spies, though."

Anonymous MadisonMan December 07, 2015 9:17 PM  

There is a third way.

Blogger Sherwood family December 07, 2015 9:19 PM  

I know about visas, thanks. What I mean is, how do you propose to do something about Muslims from France, Belgium, Germany, etc? You can't just use the visa/passport scheme. But these are still large polities even if they are not significant percentages of their host country populations. There are enough British Muslims to keep the U.S. deep in jihadis for years. How are you going to deal with those? Especially if you announce that Muslims are no longer going to be allowed in the country. That's where the difficulties come in. And what do you do with folks from India? Not a Muslim country but home to a huge number of Muslims. This kind of policy would be very tricky to implement.

Blogger Sherwood family December 07, 2015 9:20 PM  

Screening is very important. Every time I fly in and out of Dulles it is like half the TSA are Muslims, so using the force we have to implement something like this is a non-starter but the implications of doing this get to be much more difficult.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy December 07, 2015 9:23 PM  

Godfrey: Your repeated repetitive repetition is getting to be about as entertaining and informative as Laguna Beach Fogey's was on the day he was told to STFU.

Blogger John Red Eagle December 07, 2015 9:24 PM  

A little *too* perfect, if you ask me... it's almost as if... ZOMG! Donald is a sock puppet!

Can anyone confirm Vox's and Red Eagles whereabouts during the "false flag" moslem jihad on Christmas party?


Crud, they're on to us!

That's right, Vox, Spacebunny, Trump, Cernovich and I are all sockpuppets. Possibly of the aliens. Oh, and Milo is just Trump in disguise, with only slightly more extreme hair, a fake accent and some really good makeup. If you wondered why a supposedly 'gay' guy exudes such potential as an alpha lady-charmer, that's it.

Blogger haus frau December 07, 2015 9:32 PM  

@53 "If you wondered why a supposedly 'gay' guy exudes such potential as an alpha lady-charmer, that's it."

Milo really is a sad waste of masculine potential. Damn that queer bug.

Blogger Cee December 07, 2015 9:37 PM  

@53 Milo is a sock puppet of a sock puppet?

WE HAVE TO GO DEEPER.

Blogger James Dixon December 07, 2015 9:56 PM  

> What I mean is, how do you propose to do something about Muslims from France, Belgium, Germany, etc?

There is no Constitutional reason you can't ask their religion upon entry. But just cutting out the travel from known Islamic countries makes the problem much more manageable.

Blogger pyrrhus December 07, 2015 10:01 PM  

Review posted of Cuckservative--a truly outstanding and scholarly work!

Anonymous Teufel hunden December 07, 2015 10:04 PM  

@ Euro Godfrey my man

I see you working it my friend. Carry on...
Godspeed

Blogger Curtis December 07, 2015 10:10 PM  

Just go to twitter and watch the lib-tards, SJW's, and cuckservatives flapping around like fish out of the water. Type "Trump's Muslim".

They have even found a new friend in Dick Cheney. The same guy who wants to bomb the living f**k out of Syria and Iraq.

Blogger David-093 December 07, 2015 10:11 PM  

Donald Trump's response to critics of his proposed ban on Muslims entering the US?

I don't care.

Is he a VFM?

Anonymous Martel December 07, 2015 10:12 PM  

Send Trump a copy of Cuckservative!

He's not what many hope and wish he is.
Trial Banker, Accountant and Family.
Next.

Anonymous PhuchU SE Asia and Drugs December 07, 2015 10:14 PM  

Tribal...Jewish..Cabbalistic Talmudic...
...fucking google and blog

Blogger rumpole5 December 07, 2015 10:16 PM  

Trump makes perfect sense. Islam is the swamp in which these snakes slither. Bamby may live in the swamp too, but if you want to get rid of the snakes you need to drain the swamp.

Anonymous Follow the Money and Drugs and Arms and Sex Slaves December 07, 2015 10:18 PM  

The Golden Triangle moves to Afghanistan...
Imagine That...Next there'll be a PBS special on Skull and Bones and Russell...

Blogger praetorian December 07, 2015 10:19 PM  

Is he a VFM?

Is the madman even human?

Blogger Sheila4g December 07, 2015 10:21 PM  

@28 Godfrey -
Since they're cucks, they will respond based on emotion rather than facts and reason. They have already repeatedly asserted that whereas Israel was specifically founded as an ethno-state, America has *always* been a *nation of immigrants.* A proposition nation has no native people or culture and anyone from anywhere can be a great American. Vox's book? Hatefacts and feelzbad with the wrong tone to boot. Not their sort at all.

Anonymous Scintan December 07, 2015 10:25 PM  

Everybody is going nuts over this, but I think the electorate will love it.

He needs to change his position with regards to those who are already citizens, because it's a stupid one. His position with regards to non-citizens is actually striking a cord even with the liberals I've talked to, although they fight the notion at first.

Anonymous Andrew E. December 07, 2015 10:34 PM  

Trump has talked before all this about Americans who go to fight for ISIS should never be allowed to come back. I think if Trump said (I didn't hear this myself) American Muslims overseas shouldn't be allowed back he probably had mind those who were up to dastardly deeds abroad.

Blogger Josh December 07, 2015 10:43 PM  

He needs to change his position with regards to those who are already citizens, because it's a stupid one.

Yup. Also consider what he said two months ago:

Donald Trump on Saturday responded to a question from CNN about whether Muslims pose a danger to the country, saying: "I love the Muslims. I think they're great people."

Blogger OneWingedShark December 07, 2015 11:15 PM  

@20 " was looking forward to my taxpayer paid arsenal."

That actually is one of the legitimate powers of Congress; from Art 1, Sec 8:
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, [...]

Blogger OneWingedShark December 07, 2015 11:24 PM  

@46 "I am not fatalistic, but if you take out the light then all left is darkness in this land. The martyrs that came from West to spread Gospel died for a purpose here. To redeem nations, there is a price.

There has to be a way other than taking these Christians out of their roots.
"

There is another way: bathe the middle east in blood. Not from war, but our own missionaries. -- If we do this, then they will be saved or at Judgement they will be without excuse, having heard about Jesus and His work.

Anonymous WillBest December 07, 2015 11:33 PM  

His position with regards to non-citizens is actually striking a cord even with the liberals I've talked to, although they fight the notion at first.

Deporting people we have already allowed in legally strikes most people as unjust, even if we did so stupidly, and they got a really good deal. You couldn't even manage it against ones you foolishly gave citizenship too unless you want to treat the Constitution with the same level of respect it is currently being treated.

Blogger ray December 07, 2015 11:40 PM  

The polling-data statement puts Mr. Trump in violation of the Attorney General's recent orders, unless I'm mistaken. In a very public way.

Blogger John Red Eagle December 07, 2015 11:49 PM  

Cuckservative is now at #185 out of all ebooks on Amazon, and ranked 1st in all three of its categories.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 07, 2015 11:54 PM  

@50 Especially if you announce that Muslims are no longer going to be allowed in the country.

I believe that brain-scanning technology is up to detecting if someone is familiar with certain stimuli, as well as distinguishing truth from lies and positive from negative reactions.  Expose them to things like the shahada while they're under the scanner.  If they are both familiar and positive and/or they lie about it, they use their return ticket immediately.

This kind of policy would be very tricky to implement.

Not if you're as careful about undeclared baggage as that which is X-rayed.

@53 Crud, they're on to us!

There's a reason I love this crowd despite the disagreements.  The sense of humor is just too much like mine.

Anonymous Bobby Farr December 07, 2015 11:55 PM  

If someone had told me five years ago that Donald Trump would be the last and best hope for the survival of WASP America...

Blogger Curtis December 08, 2015 12:16 AM  

Trump makes perfect sense. Islam is the swamp in which these snakes slither.

Always remember, it is but the tree in the forest. Your government is the forest. Burn the forest, and most of this crap will go away.

Anonymous backslider December 08, 2015 12:25 AM  

I hope this is the right post I read:

Duh... everyone knows to be careful with fools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tyg5SJDpiQ

I hate to think of the fool I was and am.

And actually he's an extremely white supremacist of the guitar! So take it and shut up you SJW's!...

And while I'm at it, so VD where you want this killin done?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNUTqDJJaI

Blogger Nate December 08, 2015 12:31 AM  

"There are two choices, the Bosnian way or the Spanish approach."

How about the Vlad Tepes approach?

Anonymous Wyrd December 08, 2015 12:37 AM  

LOL: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/oh-my-ralph-peters-calls-obama-a-total-pussy-on-live-tv-video/

BTW, VD, I enjoyed the new book immensely, especially the chapter on the history of cuckservatism.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite December 08, 2015 12:49 AM  

Vlad III Dracula did nothing wrong.

Also: #FreeBreivik.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite December 08, 2015 12:54 AM  

haus frau: "The Christians are commit acts of terrorism crowd is out in full force."

The Christian Menace is real but exclusively cuckservative. Cuckservative Christians have bloody hands because they open the gates to killers, but the main killers are Muslims.

Anonymous Discard December 08, 2015 12:55 AM  

71. WillBest: After 40-50 years of leftist Constitution twisting, why should we flinch from twisting twice as hard in the opposite direction? They've used the law as a weapon against us, and our reluctance to do the same will condemn us to defeat and slavery.
The country is broken. We are a defeated, occupied nation. Isn't forcing us to always play by the rules, as interpreted by leftists, a major part of the Alinsky playbook? Do you want to preserve all the decisions of the Supreme Court of the last 60 years, or do you want to survive?
Just as any excuse a slick lawyer could come up with has been good enough to let in the 3rd World, let it now be any excuse to deny entry be good enough. Just as the fear of clitoral excision has allowed African women to settle in and get free housing and food stamps, let's now make a drunk driving conviction enough to revoke naturalized citizenship. When Chinese bring their parents in, promising that that they will not become a burden, and then sign them up for government benefits, strip them of any legal status and send them out on the next plane. The world will piss and moan, but will recognize the basic fairness of it. I can't go abroad and jump on their gravy train, so there's no reason they should be allowed to jump on ours.
Actually, being a registered Democrat, the official White-hating party, should be grounds for repatriation. Any excuse will do.

Blogger Danby December 08, 2015 1:03 AM  

Great comment about Trump by Ace over at Ace of Spades HQ:

And then that gets us to the problem we're faced with, in which a man who is palpably unqualified by experience or temperament to be the president of the United States is simultaneously the only person of any prominence capable of brushing aside the cheap, insipid religious dogmas of our secular priestly castes and speak a (stupid, rude form of) the truth about things.

Blogger Sherwood family December 08, 2015 1:14 AM  

A multi-pronged approach is best: 1) Limit any travel from Islamic countries. 2) Register obvious Muslims from other countries (i.e. Western countries) who are travelling to the U.S. so we know who is coming in 3) create a buy-out offer for Muslims citizens already in the U.S. i.e. a financial incentive to deport themselves and give up U.S. citizenry. This last suggestion I think would be similar to compensatory emancipation for slaves, i.e. a buy out option that is a lot cheaper than a civil war.

Anonymous Scintan December 08, 2015 1:16 AM  

Deporting people we have already allowed in legally strikes most people as unjust, even if we did so stupidly, and they got a really good deal. You couldn't even manage it against ones you foolishly gave citizenship too unless you want to treat the Constitution with the same level of respect it is currently being treated.

It took me ten minutes to change the mind of the first opposing liberal I spoke to. It took less than five minutes for each of the next seven.

It's an easy case to make, and it's got historical backing.

Blogger vashine December 08, 2015 2:03 AM  

Thank God for Trump. Now he needs our help. Get loud, get organized. Be ruthless against any liberal or cuckservative friends or family. Mock them incessantly and call them out on the evil they support. Do not give them a pass. Take Vox's rhetorical lessons as a guide. "You support Muslims, so you support sex slavery/slavery/pedophilia/rape culture in America." Simple, easy, and preferably done in public, at the Christmas parties, anywhere and everywhere. Whoever rules 'the commons' eventually rules the nation. Call them out for being the ignorant, shallow, narrow-minded, brainwashed fucks they are. Remember, they are dangerous and are causing the deaths, rape, and suffering of millions of innocents. They already have gallons of blood on their hands. Let them know it.

Make sure they lose face, which they are deathly afraid of, more than anything really. Make sure their ego hurts, which is very good for them in the long run, no matter how many crocodile tears they may shed. Make sure they know that real adults still exist, with strength of mind and body, and those adults will hold them accountable, at every turn, for their dangerously childish and shallow ideologies and thought processes. Make sure they know they are choosing a side, and it's the side of jihadists and musloids. Do not let them get away with shit.

Educate and reach out to every military serviceman, any veteran, and every local or state law enforcement person you know, get a Robert Spencer book in their hand, start educating them and telling them why Islam is evil and Muslims must never be respected or tolerated in any decent community or nation.

It's our nation. If we don't claim it, own it, the Muslims will. They are already saying that they own it and will rule it.

Momentum is important. Trump is working hard for you, for us, now do the same for him and for your loved ones, for posterity, for your community and nation.

Anonymous TroperA December 08, 2015 2:11 AM  

They have already repeatedly asserted that whereas Israel was specifically founded as an ethno-state, America has *always* been a *nation of immigrants.* A proposition nation has no native people or culture and anyone from anywhere can be a great American.

ALL nations were Proposition Nations filled with immigrants at one time. But at some point during their development, they found themselves having to band together and form villages, cities, then eventually states and nations. Land and resources do not last forever- eventually they fill up. Only Crazy Cat Ladies and Democratic Politicians are crazy enough to think you can flood a finite space with charity cases and not have it end with doom for all.

Blogger ray December 08, 2015 2:12 AM  

"Donald Trump's proposal is a good start, but it is only a start"


Ole Chain-he even manifested to denounce the trumpster. Lots of reasonable denouncers emerged. It was like Old Home Week ... like Junior was in office again and I was breaking furniture. Good times.

I thought Dick was on the ranch somewhere blasting lackeys with his shotgun? But nope here he is, being patriotic again when we most need him.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 08, 2015 2:28 AM  

@66
You are not reading very well... Trump's stated position specifically did not include moslems who are already citizens.
However, step by step Trump is finally getting to the heart of the matter, i.e. islam is the problem, not just "islamic terrorism". I wholeheartedly applaud the guy, because someone finally has the intestinal fortitude to tell the whole truth (wherein symbols match reality) by sticking it right in the face of cuckservatives, progressives and their lapdog media.

Personally, I believe the next step should be a declaration by the government that the peculiarities of islam make it 80% a political system and only 20% a religious belief. That would put islam on the same legal footing as Communism, which therefore could be used to not only prevent entry of its adherents, but also require a loyalty oath of those already here. The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and Sharia means death to the Constitution.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 08, 2015 2:34 AM  

@66
You are not reading very well... Trump's stated position specifically did not include moslems who are already citizens.

However, step by step Trump is finally getting to the heart of the matter, i.e. islam is the problem, not just "islamic terrorism". I wholeheartedly applaud the guy, because someone finally has the intestinal fortitude to tell the whole truth (wherein symbols match reality) by sticking it right in the face of cuckservatives, progressives and their lapdog media.

I believe the next step should be a declaration by the government that the peculiarities of islam make it 80% a political system and only 20% a religious belief. That would put islam on the same legal footing as Communism, which therefore could be used to not only prevent entry of its adherents, but also require a loyalty oath of those already here. The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and Sharia means death to the Constitution.

Blogger John Wright December 08, 2015 2:55 AM  

"I believe the next step should be a declaration by the government that the peculiarities of islam make it 80% a political system and only 20% a religious belief. That would put islam on the same legal footing as Communism, which therefore could be used to not only prevent entry of its adherents, but also require a loyalty oath of those already here. The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and Sharia means death to the Constitution."

Hear, hear.

Anonymous Scintan December 08, 2015 3:06 AM  

You are not reading very well... Trump's stated position specifically did not include moslems who are already citizens.

Well....

Trump, in a formal statement from his campaign, urged a “total and complete shutdown” of all federal processes allowing followers of Islam into the country until elected leaders can “figure out what is going on.” Asked by The Hill whether that would include American Muslims currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.’ ”

Trump spokesperson doesn't seem to agree with you

You might want to take that up with Trump's staff, if they're lying, with Mr. Trump if they're not, or with The Hill if it made up the part about the email, because my reading is fine.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 08, 2015 3:20 AM  

@88...
As per the link in @80, Trump's stated position is the following:

"But Trump explained Monday on Fox News that his proposal would not apply to Muslim Americans and Muslims already living legally in the United States."

I couldn't care less about what his staff may or may not have to say.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 08, 2015 3:22 AM  

mmmmmm.... my mistake, make that the reference in post @60...

Anonymous Scintan December 08, 2015 3:48 AM  

I couldn't care less about what his staff may or may not have to say.

So he walked it back. Smart move. Interesting that I didn't see any coverage of the walk back on the TV while I was out and about tonight.

Anonymous YIH December 08, 2015 4:20 AM  

What does The American Cuckservative say about Trump's idea?
This is disgusting. I believe that it is reasonable to be restrictive about Islamic immigration to the US, and I despise the way the mainstream media has always gone out of its way to avert its eyes from domestic Islamic radicalism. But there is nothing reasonable about banning travel to the US on the basis of religion. What kind of respect does Trump have for religious freedom? It’s a relief to know that should Trump become president and try to implement such a plan, the Supreme Court would shoot it down in a heartbeat. Still, that a leading presidential candidate would take such a stand is profoundly disturbing.
Just as you'd expect him to. Myself, by the time the Bush Family (who of course also thinks Trump's idea is disgusting) started openly sucking up to the Saudis, I started saying ''the US should be 'off-limits' to moslims'' - including as tourists as in, ''Sorry Saudi princeling, no Disney World for you! Your fellow moslims ruined it for you''.

Blogger Sherwood family December 08, 2015 4:24 AM  

We live in interesting times. If Trump can get the nomination, and if he can win the general elections it will be interesting to see what he does with the entrenched bureaucracy that hampers efforts to get things done. The people where I work would largely lose their collective minds should he end up being the POTUS. While that would be funny, it is also a problem because of the principle of malicious compliance. All leaders rely on the assent and obedience of followers. In the federal government this takes the form of following lawful orders in the military and carrying out policies from the POTUS and Congress in other agencies. If they refuse to do it, or "work-to-rule" then the leader is effectively limited unless he can impose his vision on those below. This is why in the past federal positions were part of a spoils system with new administrations sweeping out the personnel of the old. The civil service reform changed that but it also brought in an entrenched group with the means and often the motive to stymie reform.

I will be interested to see if he can maintain momentum and sell the people who work for his campaign enough to get the kind of support he would need to clean house should he get into office.

Anonymous Jake-the-Rake December 08, 2015 4:50 AM  

@87

Indeed. Years back during the cold war, my mother landed a short gig as interpreter for a delegation of visiting Italian socialists. That got her a couple of visits from the FBI. Those were socialists, commies instead simly were not allowed in.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 08, 2015 5:13 AM  

@Scintan

We don't care, neither do the Burmese or Cambodians.

Anonymous YIH December 08, 2015 5:28 AM  

Of course, Sailer weighs in.
[NYT quote]“Rooting our nation’s immigration policy in religious bigotry and discrimination will not make America great again,” said Rabbi Jack Moline, executive director of Interfaith Alliance, putting a twist on Mr. Trump’s campaign slogan.

Mr. Trump made his remarks a day after President Obama delivered a national address from the Oval Office urging Americans not to turn against Muslims in the wake of the terrorist attacks.

Experts on immigration law and policy expressed shock at the proposal Monday afternoon.

“This is just so antithetical to the history of the United States,” said Nancy (((Morawetz))), a professor of clinical law at New York University School of Law, who specializes in immigration. “It’s unbelievable to have a religious test for admission into the country.”

She added: “I cannot recall any historical precedent for denying immigration based on religion.”

[Steve] I can: Soviet non-Jews.

In fact, I knew a Russian who was trying to fake being Jewish so she wouldn’t be kicked out of the country for not being Jewish.

Back in the 1990s, I knew one of the first of the great wave of Russian blondes to make it to the U.S. There was always a lot of drama revolving around whether or not the INS would kick her out of the country because her tourist visa had run out. Her boyfriend wasn’t interested in marrying her, so she was always on the lookout for a fake husband to scam the INS with. But when that angle petered out, she moved on to assembling genealogical records from back home to prove she was Jewish and therefore could get asylum in the U.S.
[Me] To me, Rod Muncher's argument that allowing islam free reign due to the 1st Amendment 'freedom of religion' clause is no different than 'free speech/freedom of press' advocates claiming ''kiddie porn is free speech'' - something that the same Supreme Court that found a right to abortion hidden in some penumbra couldn't accept.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Blogger James Dixon December 08, 2015 8:27 AM  

> He needs to change his position with regards to those who are already citizens, because it's a stupid one.

It's not necessarily a stupid one, but due process must be followed for citizens, so it would be a lot more work.

> Actually, being a registered Democrat, the official White-hating party, should be grounds for repatriation. Any excuse will do.

No need for that. A 50% income tax surcharge will do (they're the ones arguing we're not taxed enough after all), and then just watch how fast the ones with the wherewithal run for the border.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 08, 2015 8:39 AM  

@84 Only Crazy Cat Ladies and Democratic Politicians are crazy enough to think you can flood a finite space with charity cases and not have it end with doom for all.

This.  Need I point out that the solution is the same?  If we weren't feeding SS Africa, the projected population explosion there would not happen.  What we need is a spay-and-neuter program for third-worlders, starting with the ones in the West.

@86 Hear, hear!  Though I'd go further:  Muslims should be declared non-citizens and given a firm deadline to relocate to the Dar al Islam.  They would lose voting rights immediately, so the problem like the takeover of Dearborn would reverse itself.

@97 Closing all mosques and a program of third-worlder control would get that problem tamped down even without deportation.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 08, 2015 8:43 AM  

I think if Trump said (I didn't hear this myself) American Muslims overseas shouldn't be allowed back he probably had mind those who were up to dastardly deeds abroad.

You're not supposed to think rationally about what he says and put it into context with reality and his other statements and figure out what it would mean in practical terms. That's no fun at all. You're supposed to interpret each statement as radically as possible and then run with it. Since he speaks entirely in rhetoric, you get new material every day that way.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 08, 2015 9:14 AM  

We live in interesting times. If Trump can get the nomination, and if he can win the general elections it will be interesting to see what he does with the entrenched bureaucracy that hampers efforts to get things done.

Yes. If you think Trump is too extreme, be comforted by the fact that the entire apparatus of the state will fight him on any action he attempts to take on migration and borders. Someone posted recently how many Muslims/foreigners work in the TSA. That's unsurprising, since it was used as a patronage payoff to Democrat clients who couldn't get real jobs. But it means it's not going to be as simple as giving the order to start the deportation roundups and flights. He would have to clean house first, from top to bottom.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 9:39 AM  

@32 James Dixon

To enter most countries you need some documents. They're called Visas and Passports. They specify which country you're from and often the purpose for your visit and how long you can stay. They have to be presented on entry to the country.
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I've heard that in Israel they have these small interviews and they ask simple questions. They are looking for nervousness and some other tells that help them determine if someone is a terrorist.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 9:41 AM  

@34 Godfrey

Israel has an interesting wall. Have you seen it? Do the Cuckservatives want to tear it down?
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I would love to hear their answer to that question. It would be waaasssciiistt to criticize the jews. But it would be equally as such to build a wall :P

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 9:43 AM  

@36 Eric Wilson

The First Amendment is dead, long live The First Amendment!!!
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Vox put a topic up about this sometime this year. And at the time I thought, "Naaa, kind of over reacting".

But now I think it's a good idea to go after it solely on the press aspect to hold them accountable for their lies, propaganda, twisting of the truth, etc as news organizations. And this is solely in response to their continual attacks on the 2nd amendment. I don't think it would actually work, but it would put the F'ers on defense.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 9:45 AM  

@40 Godfrey
Do Cuckservatives consider buffer states racist?
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They'd consider selling their souls to the devil if it would mean they were never called racist.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 9:49 AM  

@45 The Other Robot
Send Trump a copy of Cuckservative!

Suggest it via twitter!
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That's a great idea ! If Trump picked up on the "posterity" argument, it would be unstoppable.

I was posting it a few times here and there to get folks thinking about it.

Also, having read the magic dirt chapter now, I'm throwing that one out a lot in forums.

I've seen a couple others using magic dirt to make a point, so the idea is getting out there.

I even saw someone link to Cuckservative on Brietbart yesterday.

Sometimes convergence is good :P

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 9:55 AM  

@59 Curtis

They have even found a new friend in Dick Cheney. The same guy who wants to bomb the living f**k out of Syria and Iraq.
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Yeah I noticed that last night. Someone was telling me that Cheney mom gave him an appropriate name. But apparently he wasn't the evil Darth Vader puppet master of Bush. He was just the convenient lightning rod to draw off a ton of criticism

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 10:03 AM  

@64 praetorian

Is he a VFM?

Is the madman even human?
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Even people who go after Trumps hair are DOOMED! Ask Vince McMahon

Trump is a Winner, even in wrestling
bahahahahaaa

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 10:05 AM  

@66 Scintan

He needs to change his position with regards to those who are already citizens, because it's a stupid one.
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You mean citizens like Farooooq who came back with a terrorist side kick?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 10:07 AM  

@68 Josh

Donald Trump on Saturday responded to a question from CNN about whether Muslims pose a danger to the country, saying: "I love the Muslims. I think they're great people."

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They're great at unwittingly helping him become the next president

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 08, 2015 10:18 AM  

@101 I've heard that in Israel they have these small interviews and they ask simple questions. They are looking for nervousness and some other tells

It takes an IQ well over affirmative-action levels to do that.  OTOH "failure of retraining" would be one way to purge the AA hires from TSA.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 08, 2015 10:19 AM  

@93 Sherwood family

I will be interested to see if he can maintain momentum and sell the people who work for his campaign enough to get the kind of support he would need to clean house should he get into office.
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Even though he isn't talking much about it, I believe there is a chance he might eliminate some of the useless departments.

This is going by his comments about how much everyone else is spending, for such little results. And how little he is spending, for much better results.

Blogger CM December 08, 2015 10:33 AM  

This is going by his comments about how much everyone else is spending, for such little results. And how little he is spending, for much better results.

He does seem to be the kind of guy who would cut his losses and fail faster than continually throw money to make a problem go away...

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 08, 2015 10:40 AM  

I've heard that in Israel they have these small interviews and they ask simple questions.

What do you think of this picture of MoooHammmAd blowing a pig?

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 08, 2015 10:42 AM  

Just have a moratorium on all Immigration and you don't discriminate against anyone.

Blogger Azimus December 08, 2015 11:04 AM  

Mint December 07, 2015 9:13 PM
Would you propose to move African Christians, Chinese Christians, Vietnamese Christians and lots of other persecuted Christians to USA? At which limit will it stop?


Hey Mint - no, I'm not proposing this. I am proposing that people who apply for refugee status in a Christian nation, biblically, should be offered that refuge but they would have to agree to convert to Christianity. This would mean that Christians who applied for refugee status would move to the front of the line from whatever war-torn nation they are fleeing. This is not an immigration policy, but a refugee policy.

I am a Christian living in the biggest but moderate Islam country which means I can worship with a degree of freedom compare to Christians in Saudi Arabia. I had been asked by well meaning Americans to live in USA in the past when I told them my life here. I am not fatalistic, but if you take out the light then all left is darkness in this land. The martyrs that came from West to spread Gospel died for a purpose here. To redeem nations, there is a price.

I am not proposing the gathering of all Christians into one place (except maybe heaven).

There has to be a way other than taking these Christians out of their

We should all be willing to die for Christ, and you are a braver man than I for following him where you do (I believe you're from Indonesia somewhere?). But fleeing murder and destruction is not the same as denouncing Christ, and it is particularly unwise to remain if wiping out Christians is the stated purpose of the murder and destruction. The Lord sent angels and earthquakes to break his Apostles out of prison, after all.

Blogger OneWingedShark December 08, 2015 11:07 AM  

@79 "They've used the law as a weapon against us, and our reluctance to do the same will condemn us to defeat and slavery."

I agree; one of the things that irks me is that there's none on the "right"* willing to "play dirty" -- that doesn't mean breaking the law, but instead using the law in an "ungentlemanly" manner.

For example, we could crush the NSA by having every agent/employee of the NSA charged with Conspiracy Against Rights for their ignoring the 4th Amendment. We could charge judges in divorce courts with Deprivation of rights under color of law because the courts deny the right of jury trial to the people getting divorced, even though the 7th Amendment guarantees the right in all civil cases where the value in controversy exceeds $20.

Heck, we could do the same to the USSC: they declared in Roe v. Wade that there was a Constitutional right to privacy (between doctor and patient) which prevented any laws restricting abortion -- well if that's a Constitutional right, then the Affordable Care Act's requirements to expose medical records to the government is a violation of that Constitutional right. (i.e. force the USSC to choose between their precious abortion or their dear socialized medicine.)


* I prefer using a Individualist/Collectivist scale rather than right/left because so many think of the Republican party as "the right"... which is ludicrous considering how they stand for nothing of what they claim to be for.

Blogger Azimus December 08, 2015 11:08 AM  

pancakeloach December 07, 2015 9:16 PM
@11 Azimuth, your definition of "refugee" is far too broad. Not all people who flee for their lives qualify as refugees.


Agreed. I studied something like 400 verses and gave a message in our bible study that took 45 minutes to deliver - I was trying to hit the high points, and etymology is always something I study when doing a topical study. In the case above I used it as a starting point to search for verses, not as a definition per se. For example, the vast majority of verses about fleeing involved soldiers being routed from a battle, and I agree with you these certainly did not qualify as refugees.

Blogger Tim Hansen December 08, 2015 11:10 AM  

The western world needs more leaders like Trump.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 08, 2015 11:17 AM  

@114 What, don't you agree that White people are a scourge on the earth and need to be turned brown By Any Means Necessary?  HATER!

</sarc>

Anonymous Athor Pel December 08, 2015 11:33 AM  

"58. Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 08, 2015 8:18 AM
As a data point crude oil has crashed below $36 fiat. Me thinks that will be a factor in the radical appeal from the Gulf. "



The Saudi's overproduction helping to lead to this low price was meant to constrain US fracked crude production but it is also a direct attack on Russian revenue.

Two birds, one stone.



"76. Blogger Nate December 08, 2015 9:18 AM
Attention.

You will all be happy to know that I have used my amazing negotiating skills to make the comment section great again.

I have completed my negotiations with Josh... and he has agreed to go along with all of the Trump deportations and travel bans. And to drop his slippery s lope legality objections.

All I had to do was agree to allow travel bans and deportations on yankees next.

So there ya go.

you're welcome."



Which is sneaky because for deportation to mean something yankeeland must be a separate polity. Slipped secession in there almost without anyone noticing. Not that I'm objecting, oh no, I applaud this underhanded move.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 08, 2015 4:28 PM  

I am proposing that people who apply for refugee status in a Christian nation, biblically, should be offered that refuge but they would have to agree to convert to Christianity.

The Spanish Inquisition happened, in part, because people falsely claimed to convert to Christianity and then went about proselytizing for their true religions and trying to unconvert Christians. Christianity says it's wrong to lie about your faith and deny Christ to help yourself out. Other faiths don't have that restriction. How do you filter out the ones who are willing to swear falsely?

Blogger Matamoros December 08, 2015 4:42 PM  

How about the Catholic military approach to infidels.

When, during the Albigensian Crusade, Catholic forces had the Albigensian city of Beziers invested and were preparing to assault.

The Albigensians had a goodly number of Catholics held in the city as "protection" against this.

Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux and military leader of the Cathar Crusade was asked how the soldiers could tell who is who in the assault.

Sounds like modern muslim tactics does it not?

The Abbot's reply was "Kill them all, God knows His own."

"The Song of the Cathar Wars" has:

The Cardinal from Rome proclaiming
That death and slaughter must lead the way,
And that in and around Toulouse
No man shall remain alive,
Nor noble Lady, girl or pregnant woman,
Nor any created thing, no sucking infant,
But all must die in the burning flames.

So the evil was rooted out and destroyed tooth and nail.

One website I found about this states:


<&quote>The idea of "Killing them all" and leaving it to God to sort out the souls of the dead is a popular one among traditionalist Christians. Indeed it is characteristically Christian. It only makes sense to those who believe in heaven and an afterlife. The phrase would be meaningless to an atheist. It is not difficult to find Christians today who espouse such views. Devout believers in US military units including Marines, Army Rangers, and Special Forces favour a slightly different formulation "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out." This phrase is found printed on T-shirts sold on military bases - The phrase even serves as an unofficial motto for some organizations in the US police and military. A Google search on 11 December 2006 for "Kill 'em all T shirt" returned 1,230,000 matches - many for the sale of these tee-shirts.

Blogger Matamoros December 08, 2015 4:46 PM  

@21 draws sword, raises it high and shouts 'SANTIAGO !!! Matamoros!!'

I could go with this one also. It is a variant of the above.

Blogger Matamoros December 08, 2015 4:48 PM  

@25 So do we quarantine flights from other countries and check to make sure no one with a Muslim name gets on or do we only allow U.S. carriers in to the country which can comply with new policies?

We are already using biometric data in passports. Include their dna info as well, and will tell if they are from the middle east.

Blogger Antonio From Spain December 08, 2015 6:11 PM  

@121 you are right about the origins of the Inquisition. About your question "How do you filter out the ones who are willing to swear falsely?"

I propose these examples, the first is also from Spain:

Spanish people developed a huge pork industry. Neither Jews or Moors would touch the stuff. For a time some faux-converts made public displays of eating pork and some even became pig farmers. Which greatly harmed the internal cohesion of the minority. But eventually if it quacks like a duck... they were assimilated by the social pressure of pork. In Mallorca, for instance, these people were called "xuetas" which could be loosely translated as "little bacons".

Rory Sutherland mentioned in one of his speeches that when Ataturk wanted to effectively ban the burqa he knew that he could never succeed with a frontal attack so he decided to make its use compulsory for prostitutes.

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