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Sunday, December 27, 2015

Science fiction's smiling sociopath

One of the things that has always bothered me about John Scalzi's bizarre public confession concerning his sexual predilections is the same thing that has caused many people to ask the question: why on Earth would John Scalzi openly confess to being a rapist who enjoys sexually assaulting women?

On the one hand, if he was a genuine rapist, why would he ever publicly admit to it? On the other, if he was not, how could he seriously think women would find it funny to hear him declare, in his self-styled "satire": "I'm a rapist. I'm one of those men who likes to force myself on women without their consent or desire and then batter them sexually."

Who could possibly think that is either clever or funny? What sort of person writes that in the first place? Well, now we know, thanks to Cory Doctorow, who after 12 years of acquaintance with Scalzi has warned the public that the Tor Books author is very far from neurologically typical. Scalzi simply doesn't care about anything; in Doctorow's terms, he has absolutely "zero fucks to give". John Scalzi just doesn't care that you know that he's a self-admitted rapist.
John is limbically atypical. Having watching him mix it up online and face-to-face, I think he's just wired up different. I think that he really, actually, no-foolin' gives no fucks at all. All our human traits are arrayed on a bell-curve, I think, from the length of your fingers to your autonomic nervous system's response to jerks. John is a four- or five-sigma outlier.
This explains a lot that is confusing about the man's behavior. I've heard from numerous people who have encountered Scalzi about his tendency to engage in socially inappropriate behavior towards others in public, whether it is leaping into the arms of someone who barely knows him to playing "hail-fellow-well-met" with authors he has repeatedly and virulently attacked. I've also heard from reliable sources that he goes from overly warm to dead-eyed cold in an instant, depending on whether he believes the person to whom he is talking is of immediate use to him or not.

At various conferences, attendees have reported that Scalzi was "weird", prone to laughing at his own jokes, and totally unable to talk about anything but himself, even when he was supposed to be discussing the work of others. This is five-sigma narcissism, not necessarily malignant narcissism, but certainly a pathological form. And there is a word to describe a narcissistic outlier who lacks empathy: sociopath.

A reporter from the New York Times appears to have subconsciously picked up some signs of this in his interview with Scalzi, as he delicately described the Tor Books author as being prone to smiling and giggling and "someone who is comfortable with the business of promotion", even as Scalzi blatantly lied about his site traffic in the interview.

Psychology Today lists the signs of a sociopath, and it's quite clear that even in the eyes of his friends, Scalzi fits them like a glove, like a glove custom-made in Ohio from the tanned flesh of missing teenagers:
  • Superficial charm and good intelligence
  • Unreliability
  • Untruthfulness and insincerity
  • Lack of remorse and shame
  • Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
  • Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
  • Pathologic egocentricity
  • General poverty in major affective reactions
  • Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
We already knew about the first seven traits. We knew that Scalzi is a habitual liar, that his egocentricity reaches pathological levels, and that he is unable to learn from experience. But we did not know about the two latter traits. And yet, what are "wired up different" and "five-sigma outlier" other than the layman's way of describing "general poverty in major affective reactions" and "unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations"?

It was clear that the time Scalzi spent in a wheelchair in his youth had a significant effect on his socio-sexual development, but now it is apparent that the wheelchair, plus the absent father, also affected the way in which he developed psychologically. The question now may not be whether science fiction's smiling sociopath is another abusive sex criminal in the mode of Walter Breen, Ed Kramer, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Gian Gomeshi, and Samuel Delany, just to name five of whom we are already aware, but rather, how many bodies are buried somewhere underneath that broad expanse of Ohio lawn?

And the gift of an empty mason jar is particularly troubling, as it can only make the astute observer wonder what sort of ghastly little trophies are intended to go inside it.

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Blogger David of One December 27, 2015 8:07 AM  

On the basis of how he obsesses over the posts at his blog to the extreme ... it would appear that he gives a fuck about something ... namely himself in the least.

Blogger Jeffrey Quick December 27, 2015 8:13 AM  

"he really, actually, no-foolin' gives no fucks at all."
Which is why it HAD to be McRapey vs. VD?

Blogger David of One December 27, 2015 8:36 AM  

We are talking about a gamma with "five-sigma narcissism" correct? Surely you are not ingratiating this conniving self-indulging SJW butt-frother as an alpha in sigma clothing?

Blogger VD December 27, 2015 8:40 AM  

We are talking about a gamma with "five-sigma narcissism" correct?

Scalzi is definitely a gamma, the question is how far his gamma delusions go, and how much omega-rage he is concealing behind his veneer of superficial affability. But his lack of empathy is, in retrospect, obvious. That's why his behavior is so weird and his characters all speak with his voice; he literally can't imagine how all the not-Scalzis on the planet think and feel.

Now, not all sociopaths are violent, but then, most of them don't talk openly about how they rape and batter women either.

Blogger Mastender December 27, 2015 8:44 AM  

Jimmy Savile, infamous necrophiliac, child rapist and likely serial killer, openly boasted of his crimes in his writings and interviews. At the time folks thought he was joking or trying to shock in the service of some tangential argument, but no he meant every word.

Blogger Salt December 27, 2015 8:55 AM  

I suspect Scalzi polishes his Hugos more than Ilk clean their guns.

Blogger OGRE December 27, 2015 8:56 AM  

Scalzi has always given off that "Jared" vibe. I'm sure some law enforcement agency would love to get a look at his hard drive...

slightly off topic, but why is it that the people who always post those "No Fucks Given" things are the ones who bitch and moan about everything the most?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 27, 2015 9:00 AM  

So they naturally gravitate to the SJWs. If only they could have this weakness exposed and flipped upon them. How long could these basket cases endure their personal mind blasting from a rhetorical phase plasma mind blaster?

Blogger Giuseppe The Kurgan December 27, 2015 9:03 AM  

I think this whole post should form an appendix to The Left Hand of Darkness. Forewarned is forearmed after all...and if it saves just one child-girl....

Blogger bub December 27, 2015 9:25 AM  

Only 4-5 Sigmas? Literally?
What an underachiver.
He needs help.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 27, 2015 9:26 AM  

Hasn't the Cuckservative strain been about norming the sociopaths of the Left?

It seems anyone who writes for the Left is a damaged person, fragile as hell and yet the Cucks are there to shift focus away from the damaged person and turn any issue or debate into the usual abstract jibber jabber that they then can peddle to the masses as intellectual conservatism. It pays the bills I suppose and the Cucks get a smart badge from the sociopaths, we get a steaming pile.

Anonymous jSinSaTx December 27, 2015 9:47 AM  

Could you expound on this some? As a gamma he cares enough to wield the ban hammer and keep tabs on what is said about him. As a sociopath, as described in the quoted piece, he really doesnt care. What hybrid is he?

Blogger jSinSaTx December 27, 2015 10:02 AM  

Would you expound on this a bit more? He is a gamma who cares enough to wield the ban hammer and look for comments about himself, or he is as the quoted piece indicates, a zfg sociopath. Is the quoted piece incorrect in the zfg and rather it is a lot given about himself and zero about others?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 27, 2015 10:11 AM  

"Well, now we know, thanks to Cory Doctorow, who after 12 years of acquaintance with Scalzi has warned the public that the Tor Books author is very far from neurologically typical."
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What?! He's not neuro-typical? Only adaptionics can save him now!

Scalzi simply doesn't care about anything; in Doctorow's terms, he has absolutely "zero fucks to give".
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Divide by 0 error.

OpenID denektenorsk December 27, 2015 10:12 AM  

McRapey certain does give many, many fucks. Afterall he had a beautiful tale of unrequited love banned from Amazon.

The phrase "he can dish it out but can't take it" springs to mind.

OpenID elijahrhodes December 27, 2015 10:14 AM  

Narcissistic Personality Disorder tends to be the narcissistic variant of sociopathy.

Anonymous kfg December 27, 2015 10:25 AM  

"The phrase "he can dish it out but can't take it" springs to mind."

Right. It isn't that he actually has zero fucks to give, it's the pathologically anti-social pattern of what he does and does not give fucks about.

He gives a good many fucks about whether his lawn impresses you, but none at all about stabbing you in the back.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 10:27 AM  

I doubt we'd find evidence of serious violence. I think what we're seeing is related to his juvenileness, his underdeveloped face, and also psychopathic epigenetic triggers during childhood. Obviously he also has a severely underdeveloped amygdala.

The rabbits are ugly creatures. It's not what's there, but what's missing.

Anonymous Ain December 27, 2015 10:27 AM  

Narcissists want adoration, not criticism. They want to be loved by all without having to care about anybody.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 27, 2015 10:32 AM  

@7 OGRE

slightly off topic, but why is it that the people who always post those "No Fucks Given" things are the ones who bitch and moan about everything the most?
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So true. If you are ZFG, then you DGF enough to mention it.

Anonymous kfg December 27, 2015 10:32 AM  

"Narcissists want adoration, not criticism. They want to be loved by all without having to care about anybody."

Exactly. In fact, he probably feels that stabbing you in the back gives him the moral high ground, because by allowing yourself to be stabbed in the back shows weakness, and weakness is due to a lack of moral fiber.

Ergo, his behaviour is not treachery, but merely giving you what you deserved.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 27, 2015 10:40 AM  

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath

"In addition to their commonalities, sociopaths and psychopaths also have their own unique behavioral characteristics, as well."

"Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard, disorganized and spontaneous rather than planned."

"Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature."

From these it seems to me the psychopath is the ZFG, not the sociopath. But the rest of the sociopath fits, so I am suspecting that the ZFG is BS.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 10:42 AM  

Juvenile effeminate soulish capacity with psychopathic affect trendlines, an adult midwit intellect, and heavy anterior cingulates development at expense of amygdala. Resentment and envy > threat recognition. Occipital dishonor-flat TM. Medium or high DR. Gamma max.

Nice pelt.

Anonymous Coal Fired Brisket December 27, 2015 10:42 AM  

After reading this, Scalzi's latest post is absolutely chilling.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 10:47 AM  

The classic psychopath/sociopath has narrow eye spacing. Scalzi doesn't; it's a different trait constellation. One would expect testosterone markers for violence; remember that one of the three preconditions of violence is belief in capacity to succeed.

I see him as a shallow-affect juvenilized intelligent psychopath in the rat mold of Glenn Robinson, except faggier because he's into watered-down sci fi instead of MMA with black guys.

The rat knows how to scrabble, and so far Scalzi is still paddling furiously, head above water.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 11:01 AM  

Of the five sex offenders listed, Scalzi most resembles Marion Zimmer Bradley. Given his low testosterone, we should expect that if he raped anyone, it's a child, probably a relative.

Frankly I don't think he has the balls or entitlement for that, but under the right conditions... the victim would need to be helpless.

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 27, 2015 11:11 AM  

But from the original post by Cory Doctorow regarding Scalzi's gift jar the guy has a wife. What the hell kind of dynamic is going there between them as husband and wife given the discussion here on the Scalzi within? My God, think of the home life. And yet his peers, Cory openly in the article, applaud it. Where do people like that come from? Born or raised, or both based on a couple of former acquaintances of mine.

Anonymous kfg December 27, 2015 11:23 AM  

@26 Doug Cranmer:

A picture paints a thousand words:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3797/9665086819_cfde3c7835.jpg

Blogger S1AL December 27, 2015 11:28 AM  

Wouldn't surprise me to find that he falls into one of the categories, as his behavior appears to be within the range of a couple of different major personality disorders. Or maybe he's just a general narcissist... it's hard to tell with how broad the classifications are these days.

Blogger Keith Glass December 27, 2015 11:37 AM  

20-odd years ago, I ran into Scalzi at DisClave. I have no idea whether he actually WAS on the ConCom, but he certainly acted like he was.

Immediate impression: self-important asshole.

In the intervening 20+ years, I have seen exactly zero evidence to change that initial impression. . .

Anonymous Susan December 27, 2015 11:45 AM  

I screwed up my courage and went to his website. Some things you just cannot unsee.

Coal fired brisket is right, that was an absolutely chilling 2 minutes of reading. They could make a whole season of episodes on American Horror Story based on his life, it is that bad.

That daughter is a toxic pile of malignant just warming up.

Is Scalzi even married to that woman named Kristine? The google bio I found doesn't call her his spouse, she is considered his "romance".

Blogger Chent December 27, 2015 11:45 AM  

"It was clear that the time Scalzi spent in a wheelchair in his youth had a significant effect on his socio-sexual development, but now it is apparent that the wheelchair, plus the absent father, also affected the way in which he developed psychologically"

Man, I never thought I was going to feel pity for Scalzi. I even prayed a little prayer for him. Love the sinner, hate the sin and fight against the sinner with everything you got. Good job, Vox

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 11:57 AM  

Looking at the five, two are significantly nonwhite males, one is an high-test low-humanity uberfeminist, and two are a-neurotypicals white males who exhibit significant perv face and juvenilization.

Sexual misconduct, as with violence, depends on proximity, confidence in capacity, and grievance. That adequately explains the uberfeminist. The two nonwhite males are explicable by psychopathic aggression. The two white males are explicable by by acting out of juvenilized perverted auto-eroticism.

Thus we can explain Scalzi's mysterious "I'm a rapist" post. It is what he says it is: He's honestly putting himself through the minimum degrees of psychological shift necessary to enter the mind of the classic male aggressor rapist.

All he would need to get there is a reduction in ?-flatness, and/or an increase in testosterone markers.

Thus the post was an attack on ?-hierarchy and testosterone, which he views as the font of rape and all evil.

However, what he's inadvertently revealing is his shallowness of affect, psychopathy, and small juvenilized soul. He cannot conceptualize of a testosteronized, hierarchical personality WITHOUT low-rapist tendencies. Hence why he constantly labels Vox as evil - a miscomprehension based on projection.

Based on this, I don't strongly suspect Scalzi of sex crimes. Sure he'd be capable, if he had grievance - but his warren ideology isn't compatible. Rather, his archetype is the eunuch cuck, secondarily the homosexual submissive. His prime areas of dissonance vulnerability therefore should be the expected extensive sexual histories of his wife and daughter.

Look at the pictures of Scalzi's wife, Kristine Blauser Scalzi, and you can immediately see that he has selected accordingly. His wife is narrowspace, classic psychopathy indicator, and very wide masculinized facial breadth in the cheekbones and also chin. There can be no doubt who wears the pants in that relationship. Yet she also has some ?-flat indicators.

This pic says it all, except for how ugly his wife is. The Scalzi's sure do love photographic trickery.

Needless to say, their daughter is similarly unappealing.

There, that should be worth a floppy ear at least.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 27, 2015 11:57 AM  

I had the sociopath thing about him, pegged a while back.

It was the strikingly inappropriate moments that were the tell. With hard core science fiction fans there is a strong tendency to be on the ASD scale, so clueless socially inappropriate behavior is far from uncommon. In the case of someone who is a little Aspie its often attempt to reach out to someone. It's not a failure of empathy, just comprehension.

But Scalzi's inappropriate moments were different. When it comes to empathy he is a clearly a script kitty. When he gets it massively wrong socially, it's because he pulled up the wrong script. He has memorized responses to external stimuli.

He appears to be a high functioning sociopath and I doubt if he has ever killed someone.

But if he ever does he could sit right down next to the rapidly cooling corpse and eat a ham sandwich.

Blogger Dexter December 27, 2015 12:02 PM  

So there's a "good" kind of ZFG and a "bad" kind of ZFG...

Blogger Dexter December 27, 2015 12:03 PM  

Not sure I believe his wife actually gave him an empty jar for Christmas, but personally I would NOT interpret that as a great compliment.

Blogger Ron December 27, 2015 12:24 PM  

@VD

Im really curious, have your interactions with that evil man helped you with crafting villains for your writing? Or with understanding the nature of evil in general? For that matter, have you seen anything in him that men of conscience must be careful to save themselves from?

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 12:25 PM  

@33

I think his small soul capacitance means he would cause a freak out, or else enter some kind of affect-exhausted rat calculation mode. Probably the first followed by the second. That was the pattern Glenn Robinson showed, and it is classic Anonymous Conservative.

However the script kiddie concept is very good. So when Scalzi claims Vox lacks social skills, he means Vox is using the wrong scripts - in the same sense that a script kiddie might criticize a real programmer: "You're going to break the server!"

It's always very interesting to translate what these half-men say into something comprehensible across the psychological gulf.

So much of the moralizing boils down to, "If I removed x moral or psychological constraint, I would be an horrific person. You don't have x constraint. Therefore you're an horrific person."

Thus inadvertently revealing the glaring deficiencies of their natures.

In a way, it's better than the self-conscious predator, who's aware that he's different, and therefore strives to hide. By contrast, the holier-than-thou ones are so busy shouting their morality, they never realize they're accidentally broadcasting their impoverished inner nature.

Anonymous Nate2ofX December 27, 2015 12:32 PM  

_Frankly I don't think he has the balls or entitlement for that, but under the right conditions... the victim would need to be helpless."

He'd have to be out of his wife's purview as well. Maybe that's why he is always so eager to announce his travels. Or maybe that's why he married her, because he wants to stay controlled, mimicking his younger years of being under his mom's skirt.


"Immediate impression: self-important asshole."

He tries to play the "Normal guy" who isn't egotistical, but that's a veneer. "I'm no better than anyone else, but if you imply you're better than me, you're a dudebro asshole". Total projection.

Anonymous JI December 27, 2015 12:38 PM  

To what is Vox referring with this? A serial killer in Ohio at some point?
"...like a glove custom-made in Ohio from the tanned flesh of missing teenagers"

Blogger Scuzzaman December 27, 2015 12:55 PM  

Ron

The Star Wars episodes 1 to 3 were instructive. The whining petulant envy of the young Anakin, indicating how unfair life had been to him, is pure projection.
The SJW cannot imagine that men naturally love evil, that the natural man enjoys it, and indulges it for its own sake. That it brings ttemporal rewards men naturally crave. That refutes their tabula rasa bullshit model of human nature.
So they have to pretend to the logical absurdity that all evil is learned behavior, a consequence of poor child-rearing, instead. In short, they all have daddy issues, which also links to the obsession with real men, whom they desperately need in their lives but fear and thus hate.

Anonymous Anonymous December 27, 2015 1:02 PM  

@27 kfg:
In the infamous Oprah interview (it's on YouTube), the man admits his future wife approached him in a bar/club and initiated the relationship. Truth, or misguided bragging, it's still revealing. Who knows what *her* issues are.

Blogger Scuzzaman December 27, 2015 1:03 PM  

They are strongly implied by her own choice of mate.

Blogger VD December 27, 2015 1:04 PM  

have your interactions with that evil man helped you with crafting villains for your writing? Or with understanding the nature of evil in general? For that matter, have you seen anything in him that men of conscience must be careful to save themselves from?

No, because I don't really do villains per se. Yes, they have helped me understand its roots in pathos, pain, and inadequacy. Yes, it has stressed the importance of accepting the ugly truths about life and reality.

Blogger bob k. mando December 27, 2015 1:08 PM  

21. Were-Puppy December 27, 2015 10:40 AM
From these it seems to me the psychopath is the ZFG, not the sociopath. But the rest of the sociopath fits, so I am suspecting that the ZFG is BS.


not all psychiatrists draw a distinction between psycho- and socio-pathy.

and, of course, the ones who do draw distinctions, don't all draw the same distinctions.

that's why Wall Street / bankers do personality assays looking for "high functioning sociopaths" to turn into their executive officers. they are NOT looking for stupid, hair trigger, violent cretins to head their companies.


that's why the dictionaries usually list socio / psychopathy as synonyms for each other AND list 'violence' as a characteristic of psychopathy.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath?s=t

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/psychopath
"a tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure to feel guilt for such acts"




37. Neanderserk December 27, 2015 12:25 PM
That was the pattern Glenn Robinson showed



no idea who you're talking about. the NBA player? the Blackzillian owner? somebody in SFWA?



39. JI December 27, 2015 12:38 PM
To what is Vox referring with this?



probably a reference to Cheesehead Ed Gein, who is the inspiration for numerous Hollyweird horror movies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

OpenID krauserpua.com December 27, 2015 1:37 PM  

That jar is filled with all the memorable fucks his wife received from him since they met.

Blogger Kallmunz December 27, 2015 1:47 PM  

It's amusing to see Doctorow refer to the cow as Scalzi's "amazing" wife. Have you ever seen a woman referred to as "amazing" or "awesome" that wasn't a complete bore? In years past we would have said that she "has a nice personality" now it's "amazing."

OpenID Jack Amok December 27, 2015 1:53 PM  

So there's a "good" kind of ZFG and a "bad" kind of ZFG...,

The "good" kind of ZFG is really zero unwarranted fucks given. The bad kind is ZFG, even when you should.

Example: if I'm backing out of a parking spot and carelessly hit a parked car and bash in the door, I should give a fuck about that and do what I can to make it right with the car's owner. OTOH, if I'm getting into my truck and some global warming enthusiast starts yelling at me about my carbon footprint, no fucks are warranted by that situation.

Recognizing proper and healthy social relationships, as well as cause-and-effect, are the difference. Leftists don't understand cause-and-effect. SJWs have serious difficulty with both.

Anonymous Jill December 27, 2015 1:56 PM  

Oh, brother. The scifi/fan world has some strange bedfellows. Reason I'm not climbing in.

Anonymous DreadPirateTimothy December 27, 2015 1:56 PM  

And yet another piece of evidence on the lack of creativity for the rabbit warren. Scalzi copies an old meme, updating it (my fucks are in a jar!) and passing it on to his audience as some brilliant literary device.

Blogger bob k. mando December 27, 2015 2:08 PM  

come on in, Jill, the trainwater is fine.

just imagine, you could be friends with Samuel Delaney.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogg_%28novel%29

Blogger LP999 DUNE no Doom December 27, 2015 2:16 PM  

Same format, different design. Same person, still disturbing.

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 27, 2015 2:27 PM  

"It's amusing to see Doctorow refer to the cow as Scalzi's "amazing" wife. Have you ever seen a woman referred to as "amazing" or "awesome" that wasn't a complete bore? In years past we would have said that she "has a nice personality" now it's "amazing.""

It's Cory Doctorow and boingboing.net in general. It's an interesting site in much of its content but it's a weird space to be in for long. Much like Salon I feel like taking a shower or just go lift after reading some of its articles and follow on comments.

Blogger LP999 DUNE no Doom December 27, 2015 2:41 PM  

New details are helpful in understanding John.

Is it possible McRape changes into a persona but its misunderstood as to change one's countenance in a flash? More sinister than Machiavellian in that its in line with Nicc to only keep people around if they serve a next dish purpose.

McRape is not frightening or that smart.

And he owes everyone a 2015 apology. I will never support Tor.
(The trainwaster, train-water was not fine. The firewatervodka was spiked. Both are the same, both are not fine. Today the pool water was so-so sufficient. I'm not funny but over a month later the joke is still funny when done right.)

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 27, 2015 2:47 PM  

@45. krauserpua.com

That jar is filled with all the memorable fucks his wife received from him since they met.

He has in the past, gone on about 'attending to her needs...feminized

I'll wait for you to stop shuddering in disgust.

...

Yes, she's a feminist. Shocking I know.

Usually you can't have kids doing that so I assume they tried something else at least once. Unless that something else was Paulo.

Blogger BriarRabbit December 27, 2015 2:53 PM  

Whoever this Scalzi guy is, he sure is doing an excellent job getting a lot of attention. Maybe if folks stopped writing articles 'bout him and talkin' 'bout him he'd go away. Seems like this guy says and does things to get attention. Standard female-type attention whorin' perhaps.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 2:58 PM  

@44 Glenn Robinson is the dishonor-hierarchical version of Scalzi.

Blogger Ron December 27, 2015 3:37 PM  

@VD

Maybe those truths are actually beautiful. I mean the "tragic" vision of humanity. Without tragedy, we would have no means of striving. Without lack, we wouldnt even know how to pray for our needs, I mean our real needs, the spiritual ones. Because we can pray for our material needs that we can allow ourselves to pray for the spiritual ones. Otherwise who would dare?

What is this guy? Is he lacking a soul? Or does he just like evil? Does he at least recognize how fucking crazy he is? I mean, I know Im out of my mind, I suspect most of the people here realize how seriously fucked up we all are. What is it, what makes these guys tick?


Blogger Ron December 27, 2015 3:38 PM  

@Scuzzaman

There is something incredibly funny when one honest man uses that shitty ass trikogy as an example of true evil.

Naturally, I loved it that you did that.

Blogger Achilles December 27, 2015 3:54 PM  

Scalzi cloaking himself in social justice reminds me of Ted Bundy wearing a fake cast. Gets them closer to their potential victims.

Anonymous Grassley88 December 27, 2015 4:05 PM  

It's not often that something flies so far over Vox's head. Take some time off good man.

Anonymous Grassley88 December 27, 2015 4:15 PM  

And by the way, who would you rather have standing next to you and your kid in an elevator? The guy who satirically mock men who defend rape or the guy who admired he would slay children given the right voice in his head?

Blogger Geir Balderson December 27, 2015 4:15 PM  

A few questions about this Scalzi person.

Has any of the Ilk crafted a character from what we know about him?

Is he a Christian? But, I suppose with his behavior I rather doubt it.

If all that is said here about him he is one to be pitied or ignored. He has nothing that would make real folk want to friend him. He sure wouldn't be one you could lean on in a pinch.

Anonymous kfg December 27, 2015 4:38 PM  

"It's not often that something flies so far over Vox's head."

Oooooooooh, the irony.

Anonymous Jill December 27, 2015 4:41 PM  

Scalzi is too humdrum for me personally to write about. I mean, he's a writer, right? Metafiction has its place, I guess.

Blogger Chris Nelson December 27, 2015 4:56 PM  

"Oh, brother. The scifi/fan world has some strange bedfellows. Reason I'm not climbing in."

Good enough reason to avoid it. There's some good stories and some interesting ideas in the genre, but most of it is like any other form of formalistic entertainment.

I've tapped out on the genre, and the squabbles of the industry are just a reflection of great social and moral issues present in the Western world. Except for a peek occasionally at the revelations of our host, I need to focus on other matters at hand. I can't refuse a calling in order to jump in the mud with the fellows.

Currently the interesting times we live in require more focus on reality and the physical world can be more attractive than life inside "The Box" that is fandom.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 5:14 PM  

@64 Skimming your decent blog, it appears much of human social behavior is mysterious to you, much less rhetorico-cultural wargaming.

Not that that's a a bad thing.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume December 27, 2015 5:32 PM  

Vox,

I've been catching up on Daniel's Safe Space as Rape Room series at the Castalia blog and it is very worthwhile (and tangentially related to this). I think it needs to be hyped more. And possibly nominated for some kind of award.

Anonymous JI December 27, 2015 5:53 PM  

Wow, there are so many creeps in the sci-fi world. Am glad Vox is opening the windows and airing out the room. Fresh air and sunlight are bad for germs.

Blogger Chris Nelson December 27, 2015 6:19 PM  

"Wow, there are so many creeps in the sci-fi world."

It's not that there are so many creeps, it's that there are also so many knowledgeable others that don't condone their despicable behaviour. How can they claim any morals when Delany and other pederasts were rewarded instead of being shunned?

Instead of the Vulcan IDIC, one wonders if the philosophy being followed isn't IPIC, Infinite Perversity in Infinite Combinations.

Blogger VD December 27, 2015 6:21 PM  

I think it needs to be hyped more.

No worries. It will be, at the appropriate time.

Anonymous Man of the Atom December 27, 2015 6:26 PM  

@48. Jill (December 27, 2015 1:56 PM)

"Oh, brother. The scifi/fan world has some strange bedfellows. Reason I'm not climbing in."


@50. bob k. mando (December 27, 2015 2:08 PM)

"come on in, Jill, the trainwater is fine.
just imagine, you could be friends with Samuel Delaney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogg_%28novel%29"


Tangential:
Daniel is doing outstanding work with his "Safe Space as Rape Room" series at Castalia House's blog to highlight authors such as Sam Delaney and their relation to the SF/F mainstream. The most recent episode features Delaney's works and is NOT for the faint of heart, but it is very important to read if you have kids who attend these conventions.

Beware the "older mentors" who love SF cons.

Safe Space as Rape Room: Science Fiction Culture and Childhood’s End (Part 4 of 5)

Anonymous Man of the Atom December 27, 2015 6:32 PM  

@67. Emmett Fitz-Hume

Whoops! Missed your comment, but seconding your recommendation on Daniel's work.

Anonymous Jill December 27, 2015 6:40 PM  

Man of the Atom, I couldn't get through that post on Delaney. It made me sick to my stomach. I've been reading the series, though. the pedo-culture is fandom's dirty little secret, except it isn't even secret. It just exists. And it's vile. And why? Why? I think it has to do with the embracing of weirdness and exploration. I used to write detective fiction and be apart of various mystery groups, and this element didn't exist there (as far as I know) because detective fiction had a satisfying way of dealing out justice for perverse behavior. The world is set right again when the perps are discovered and nabbed.

Blogger Neanderserk December 27, 2015 6:49 PM  

I think they don't attack the pedos in their midst because they understand them. They dare not ostracize what too closely resembles themselves. They are much more comfortable attacking the wolves.

Blogger tz December 27, 2015 7:03 PM  

Scalzi's sociopathy... He may be a brutal rapist, but according to "I'm a rapist" post, he refuses to use a condom or get a vasectomy. He doesn't just care about his own pleasure, but wants to impregnate women and force them to bear his children. But that is only a bonus. A gamma ghoul serial rapist.
(eugenics is looking better... slap! I feel better - returned to my senses).
He even celebrates his 97% chance of NOT going to prison for rape.
You really need to reread his sick post:
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/10/25/a-fan-letter-to-certain-conservative-politicians/
He even wants to be a deadbeat-dad!
I've not read any of his works. I don't think I want to even to see how dark his abyss is.

Anonymous Man of the Atom December 27, 2015 7:05 PM  

@73. Jill (December 27, 2015 6:40 PM)

"Man of the Atom, I couldn't get through that post on Delaney. It made me sick to my stomach. I've been reading the series, though. the pedo-culture is fandom's dirty little secret, except it isn't even secret. It just exists. And it's vile. And why? Why? I think it has to do with the embracing of weirdness and exploration. I used to write detective fiction and be apart of various mystery groups, and this element didn't exist there (as far as I know) because detective fiction had a satisfying way of dealing out justice for perverse behavior. The world is set right again when the perps are discovered and nabbed."


Probably one of the reasons why many of the SF/F masters are being demonized today as well. Space Opera and mainstream SF/F from pre-1990 often had a moral thread where the bad guys and the morally corrupt came to a "deserved fate", meeting with the justice they earned at the hand of the protagonist.

The SJW crowd wants nothing to do with that judgmental BS -- they are far too "advanced" for such pedestrian concepts as a universal morality, or that someone might have to answer for their actions.

Blogger Chris Nelson December 27, 2015 7:22 PM  

The genre is to the point that I don't make recommendations of books and authors any more. And that's after 40 years of reading on my part. I don't want to explain the non-recommendations and the buried history.

I'd rather encourage the exploration of history and science, or passtimes that may do more than just stimulate the nucleus accumbens.

Blogger bob k. mando December 27, 2015 7:55 PM  

74. Neanderserk December 27, 2015 6:49 PM
I think they don't attack the pedos in their midst because they understand them. They dare not ostracize what too closely resembles themselves.



there was a police dept. which noted that, in a significant majority of their pedo cases, Star Trek paraphenalia ( in particular ) was found in the pedo's home.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-ladowsky/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857.html


considering the lauding of Chip Delaney, Marion Zimmer Bradley and others, this is not really a surprise ...

Anonymous Sledge Fisthammer December 27, 2015 8:16 PM  

Daniel's series is excellent and in a just world would be nominated for a Hugo next year. It needs more promotion here. In fact, all of CH blog needs more promotion. I've been catching up lately because it's all good stuff.

Blogger Anachronda December 27, 2015 8:23 PM  

@67 I've been catching up on Daniel's Safe Space as Rape Room series at the Castalia blog and it is very worthwhile (and tangentially related to this). I think it needs to be hyped more. And possibly nominated for some kind of award.

Best Related Work nomination?

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume December 27, 2015 8:32 PM  

@80

In a just world. Daniel's work is, like I said before, worthwhile. It needs wider dissemination, just so those that would claim ignorance have a chance to pick a side publicly.

Anonymous Jill December 27, 2015 8:38 PM  

I enjoy the CH blog. I love classic scifi. In fact, I really enjoy Heinlein. Too bad he was also a pedo enabler. Libertarianism just does not work w/o a moral backbone.

Blogger VD December 27, 2015 9:01 PM  

In fact, all of CH blog needs more promotion. I've been catching up lately because it's all good stuff.

We have taken steps to grow the CH blog in 2016. They will be announced soon.

Blogger Thucydides December 27, 2015 11:03 PM  

Rather curious to see if LE has taken an interest in a self admitted rapist. The high level of scrutiny that he is exposing himself to is almost an invitation for someone to come and start doing some serious forensic investigation....

Blogger Nick S December 28, 2015 12:19 AM  

If Scalzi...nah, I just don't care.

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Anonymous Boris December 28, 2015 12:36 AM  

I don't get it. Are you pretending not to understand satire or do you not actually understand satire? I'm almost positive it's pretend, so...what's the point? Making yourself look dumb is an odd sacrifice to make in order to insult an enemy. So I guess you are not worried about looking foolish, which means either you expect your readers to not understand satire or trust them to catch onto the game, such as it is. I don't see the endgame there, but maybe it's just a team-building exercise.
Of course then it comes off as a pathetic attempt to try to get under Scalzi's skin, a guy so bad that you have to pretend he is an admitted rapist for lack of anything substantive? And then the furtive grasping at a psychological diagnosis?This whole thing smacks of trying too hard.
Well they can't all be gems. We'll see how Scalzi responds. If he doesn't respond at all that makes the trying too hard look a fair sight worse. Too bad.

Anonymous VFM #0189 December 28, 2015 2:05 AM  

I think Safe Space is the first topic to garner a trigger warning from CH.

Yes, it is that bad.

Blogger Nick S December 28, 2015 2:11 AM  

I don't get it.

Tru dat.

Blogger bob k. mando December 28, 2015 2:35 AM  

87. Boris December 28, 2015 12:36 AM
I don't get it.
...
I'm almost positive it's pretend,



you already told us the essay was beyond your comprehension level. it's really not necessary that you, you know, demonstrate beyond a doubt that you have no idea what's going on.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 28, 2015 3:33 AM  

Boris, do the research. In the wider context of his other actions, lack of action and his close allies, Scalzi's pronouncements come across as an arrogant admission of a demi-man who feels untouchable by the morality of society, not satire.

Of course, these people always get away with it because they surround themselves with fellow deviants and moral cowards and those most despicable of men who refuse to condemn evil even when it is happening before their eyes.

Boris, why do you need to defend a self-confessed rapist and alleged pedophile enabler? What dark secrets lurk in your own past? Are you a regular SF conference goer? Did you participate or is it just your own lack of action to protect kids that weighs so heavily on you? Do you have kids? Did you let them attend?

Let us pray for Boris.

Blogger Scuzzaman December 28, 2015 3:48 AM  

Hi Ron

Thanks for your kind words. The thing for me, as an observer of human nature and aspiring writer, is to recognize what kind of villain you're trying to write. MOST peope, by far, are cowardly opportunists when it comes to crime, let alone acts of great evil. In this case, pretty much all of us are "mundane svil" - a petty evil waiting for an easy opportunity for expression.
Of the relatively few people with both ingrained evil habits AND the power to effect great evil (i.e. the opportunity), still the great majority are mundane evils who have achieved power by successive compromise of the principles they were raised with. These people dominate politics everywhere, constantly persuading themselves that they are doing good, constantly searching for more and better rationalisations for their evil, so as to preserve their self image as a good person. (I'd argue even those rat bastards Cheney and Blair - both war criminals- fit this profile.)

Then there's the fee of the few, who are consciously evil, not in that they think of themselves that way, but in that they deny evil exists. For them, the end is all, and the means are irrelevant since life has no meaning for them which is not self generated. IOW, everything revolves around self for them, and other people are not real.

Blogger Ron December 28, 2015 5:24 AM  

@Scuzzaman

I think sometimes people make others "not real" because its inconvenient to care. No one wants to be the one to ruin the party.

Blogger Ron December 28, 2015 5:27 AM  

@Scuzzaman

Just to be clear. For example, the way the family court tears fatehrs apart, or the destructive impact of the public school system. no one cares, because it is inconvenient to care.

Blogger Scuzzaman December 28, 2015 6:17 AM  

Ron,

yes, I'd agree with that. Unfortunately, as our host accurately observes, we now live in a system that is actively rewarding that kind of casual evil. Actively suppressing good and encouraging sins of all kinds. Promoting evil.

How many of those people who "work" in family courts would stand up to a man in person, and try to take his children from him, without such a system of violent coercion backing them up?

Very few.

Which relates to another point someone made earlier, about how many people are open to change. This is true, but it is actually not always a good thing. Too many of us live without principle except for what is convenient to us personally. Too many are simply moved by the current rather than swimming in any particular direction of our own choosing.

The good news and the bad news, both, is that this is true of our evil and of our good.

This very strongly emphasizes our host's point that we desperately NEED to build a culture and a power structure that actively inhibits evil and actively rewards good; because the majority go with whatever they are convinced is the majority position. With whatever they think they can get away with.

Japan and Singapore have low crime because they have, culturally AND legislatively, a very low tolerance for crime, approaching zero.

We indulge and reward crime/sin, culturally and legislatively, and therefore we have a lot more of it.

Not rocket surgery in principle, but writing believable villains is hard precisely because most people want to deny our own nature, and do not want to see ourselves in the villain. Hence the popularity of the "psychopath" trope, the mentally damaged, and the backstories filled with childhood abuse. It is all really about ignoring our own innate impulses to evil. That kind of realism doesn't sell well.

Anonymous Not Scalzi December 28, 2015 7:02 AM  

Did everyone not read the disclaimer at the end of his essay?

"John Scalzi says:
OCTOBER 25, 2012 AT 6:19 PM
Caveats begin here. Read before posting.

1. For those of you who didn’t figure it out earlier, this is satire. However, just because it is satire, does not mean it’s intended to be funny."

The satire is pretty obvious. The piece begins with the title "A Fan Letter to Certain Conservative Politicians." It is pretty obviously intended to be a diatribe against a certain extreme anti-abortion mindset, specifically that which would disallow abortion even in cases of rape. The fictional narrator of the letter -- and that is exactly who the character is -- is supposed to be an anonymous rapist. The "I" of the piece is clearly NOT Scalzi himself. Is this not obvious?

Blogger Spencer Rathbun December 28, 2015 8:10 AM  

Actually, there is a class of narcissism that includes sociopathy. See wikipedia for details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

These types of narcissists have enormous egos that are terribly fragile. They need validation from outside sources, and they latch onto people to provide a "supply". It's an extremely weird set of conflicting personality traits. I would suggest any of Scalzi's "friends" realize he's just using them to support his own emotional instability. He doesn't actually care about them, and the only option they've got is to disengage.

Blogger The Kurgan December 28, 2015 8:15 AM  

2016 will be a rather ... Vinagry year for certain brands of awards...

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 28, 2015 11:11 AM  

@87 None of the characters in The 120 Days of Sodom were called Marquis de Sade. What's your point? (apart from being an web surfing apologist for a self-confessed deviant, of course)

Anonymous Boris December 28, 2015 11:18 AM  

"Is this not obvious?"

Well, yeah, it's obvious. I assume calling Scalzi a "self-admitted rapist" and "McRapey" is just chatter that reinforces the group. But then a lot of commenters here seem to be taking it seriously, which is amusing.

Blogger Anthony December 28, 2015 11:18 AM  

So Scalzi is a sociopath? That means, that with the correct opinions, he could go far in politics.

Most successful politicans are some level of sociopath. The system selects for them. Pretty much every political decision is going to hurt someone, and a politician who can't block that out will be ineffective. Even St. Ronnie seems to have had some of that in him - I've seen a description of meeting him describing the eyes going cold.

It's possible the only non-sociopathic president we've had since the 30s was Carter, which would explain his completely ineffectual nature (even if you share his politics, he didn't actually do much, he just reacted to events). I'd guess that the best we can hope for is a not-too-sociopathic president who actually has good ideas.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 28, 2015 11:28 AM  

@97 not 87
(2 to 1 "Boris" is also "Not Scalzi")

Anonymous Boris December 28, 2015 12:31 PM  

"Boris, why do you need to defend a self-confessed rapist..."

I'm not interesting in defending anyone. My interest is in your inability to grasp a rudimentary rhetorical strategy--or what value you get from pretending not to grasp it.

Anonymous Jill December 28, 2015 2:32 PM  

Oh, it's obviously satire. It's really bad satire with muddled thinking. Does Scalzi really think that the best way to deal with violent sexual assault is to abort away the genetic/biological consequences that can result from it? Frankly, I don't trust a man who thinks in that way. My satire would run the opposite direction--having a rapist thank politicians for the convenience of abortion. But then, I've never been very nice in my satire.

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