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Thursday, December 03, 2015

So where is the third shooter?

All the early reports talked about three shooters, the police scanner discussed one suspect being detained, and the two killed in the SUV have been identified as Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik. But there has been nothing more about the reports of the 28 year-old Qatari named "Tayyeep Bin Ardogan" who was also identified as a shooter, although the name seems more than a little dubious as it is very similar to the name of the Turkish prime minister and Ardogan/Erdogan sounds Turkish, not Qatari. And yet, it appears the age is right.
A man who identified himself as Farook’s father told The New York Daily News his son worked as a health technician inspecting restaurants and hotels.

“I haven’t heard anything. He worked in a county office,” he said. “He’s married and has a kid. We’re estranged because my wife got the divorce, and they are together. She doesn’t want to see me.”

He added that he had not seen his son for some time.

“He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”

Farook's name first emerged after the two masked shooters opened fire at the party. Over a radio transmission, an officer could be heard telling a dispatcher that Farook was "acting nervous" and had walked out of the party 20 minutes before the shooting began. Other reports suggested he had been asked to leave.

The attackers were armed with handguns and rifles, and were dressed in camouflage clothing.

Meredith Davis, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, told NBC News: "With my experience with other mass shootings, there are indicators that this was well planned out.

"It was to be violent in nature. They were in tactical gear, I don't know if they had ballistic protection... And had several several magazines full of ammunition fashioned to their bodies. So they were ready for a gunfight should that occur."

There is currently scant detail about Tashfeen Malik, the second shooter, but San Bernardino police chief Jarrod Burguan said she was 27 years old.

Mr Burguan said: "We're pretty comfortable that the two shooters that went into the building are the two shooters deceased on San Bernardino Avenue."

"The first one is Syed, Rizwan, last name Farook. He is 28 years old. I am told that he is US-born. The person that was with him is a female. Her name is Tashfeen, last name Malik. She is 27 years old."

Malik and Farook were husband and wife, according to the Los Angeles Times newspaper, while the police would only say they were "in a relationship".

However, Farook's colleagues at the Inland Regional Centre - where 14 people were shot dead and another 17 were wounded - told the LA Times that he had gone to Saudi Arabia and returned with a new wife, whom he had met online. An unnamed family member identified the wife as Malik.
One can't help but notice there is a Saudi connection again. In any event, I'm sure we can all agree that Anthropogenic Global Warming/Climate Change is to blame and we all have a responsibility to ensure the Senate passes the Paris accords.

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94 Comments:

Anonymous disambiguated December 03, 2015 4:55 AM  

Yet again, nobody rushed the shooters while they reloaded (they weren't disciplined enough to maintain continuous fire by alternating their reload cycles), nobody tried to interfere by throwing objects, etc.

The only shooting incident in recent memory where the attacker was foiled was the one on the train in France. It was US servicemen who subdued him.

In addition to all the negative social effects of having a 'professional' military set apart from the citizenry (out of sight, out of mind; far easier to launch wars of choice), the end of conscription means that the vast majority of the citizenry have no conception at all of how to defend themselves.

Going up against an active shooter unarmed is something that most people who haven't received training and conditioning simply haven't the intestinal fortitude to contemplate. All these 'active shooter' drills - like the ones which reportedly took place at the San Bernadino shooting site - are essentially 'cowering-in-place' exercises, and are as wrongheaded and harmful as pre-9/11 airline hijacking institutionalized submission and conciliation on the part of airline crews and passengers.

And I will point out the obvious; if only one or two citizens in that facility had been armed (no security guards?), this massacre could've been cut short.

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 4:58 AM  

I noticed the CAIR "frontlash"...i.e. don't condemn Muslims for the act of this single disturbed...blah, blah, blah...I wonder how anyone can listen to this any more. But then I listen to colleagues talk and it's as if the last fourteen years never happened. I have begun by replying, "Let's not condemn all of the Nazis for the crimes of a few. I mean, it isn't as if every last one of them was hustling people into the ovens at Auschwitz. Why do you want to blame the rest for the crimes of a few. Every group has bad apples in it." The effect is predictable.

Anonymous The Kurgan December 03, 2015 5:08 AM  

"Let's not condemn all of the Nazis for the crimes of a few. I mean, it isn't as if every last one of them was hustling people into the ovens at Auschwitz. Why do you want to blame the rest for the crimes of a few. Every group has bad apples in it." The effect is predictable.

Beautiful.
I have to use that.

Blogger Phillip George December 03, 2015 5:38 AM  

Vox Im sure I'm not the first person to spot the connection but a lot of these stories have black SUV's with tinted windows in them. So the solution is to ban black SUV's with tinted windows. Anthropogenic climate change and terrorism all at once is thwarted.

I'm thinking whether this is black ops, false flag, or the real Muhammad, I don't care. Every mosque is a foreign embassy for non me, not us, not we the people. It doesn't matter if all these stories are hoax, drills, scenario training exercises, psy ops, gun agenda, political ploys, or merely actual war. All Islam, peaceful or militant is antichrist. Every Coran is antichrist. Every mosque it to a false god. It is all blasphemy in different shades of black. If Christians can't be offended they can't be defended.

Blogger bub December 03, 2015 5:42 AM  

It's almost like "Proximity..."
Nah couldn't be.

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 5:45 AM  

Yep. As Markku wisely put it in another post, religious freedom is a truce between rival Christian groups. Others were allowed to opt into the truce if they played by the rules. Somebody has forgotten that you only get the protections if you follow the rules. The time has come to help them remember.

Blogger Robert What? December 03, 2015 5:52 AM  

The inimitable Mark Steyn once posited a near-future newspaper headline: "Muslims fear backlash from tomorrow's terror attack.".

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 5:59 AM  

Robert, I had to read that twice to see what the joke was. The litany of Islamic attacks, followed by enablers soft-pedaling the murder of fellow citizens and telling everyone to leave the poor misunderstood Muslims alone, is so common place these days that I almost didn't see it when I read your comment.

Blogger Phillip George December 03, 2015 6:01 AM  

there's an upside to all this. Candle lit vigils are a really cool place to hang out and meet chicks. Like they're really awesome, twitter friendly. It's almost a festive mood. You should join in, Do a selfie and post it so everyone can see your empathy. There's one on tonight.

Blogger Lovekraft December 03, 2015 6:03 AM  

Leftist response using the first 3 rules of sjws:

It wasn't a muslim jihadist. It was an unbalanced young man, or if he did it it was because society doesn't address his needs. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Other cultures do violent things so let's not put this in context, apply trend monitoring to young muslim males

We need more gun control, aid to muslim countries so they won't hurt us anymore.

All b.s. All of it. Leftists are becoming collaborators in these massacres.

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 6:04 AM  

Phillip George, if you can point me to a torch-lit lynch mob I think that would be more my speed and style at this moment.

Blogger SteelPalm December 03, 2015 6:08 AM  

@10

"Leftists are becoming collaborators in these massacres."

Becoming? No, they already have the deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not millions on their head during the last few decades.

We need to address these fifth columnists/traitors/suicidal self-haters before the Death Cult itself.

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 6:10 AM  

I'd say it is well past Leftist becoming collaborators. The two groups are mutually parasitic and both are sapping the strength of the nations of Christendom. Muslims do the physical dirty work and the the Left blunts or undoes the natural national immune response. Then another dose of Muslim terror followed by another round of hand wringing about racism, xenophobia, bigotry. Then another attack...lather, rinse, repeat. We need to break the cycle by getting ahead of the narrative.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 03, 2015 6:10 AM  

Like I said yesterday, the immediate calls for more gun control were perfectly sensible. Because obviously terrorists can be stymied by an extra background check.

Anonymous Clay December 03, 2015 6:21 AM  

Blow Saudi Arabia to hell. Especially the Prince Sultan Air Base we gave them, one of the best in the world. They don't use the tanks & aircraft we gave them. They are camel-humping Bedouins.

We don't need their oil....we have plenty.

Anonymous Accordian guy December 03, 2015 6:24 AM  

Tayyip Ardogan has got to be a troll. Supposedly the third suspect was Farook's brother. If he is still alive they may be more cautious about releasing his name due to various legal issues

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 03, 2015 6:29 AM  

But the really important question here is, were these rifles compliant with California's assault rifle ban?

Did they buy them through the NRA Loophole and therefore have "a shoulder thing that goes up"? That makes a huge difference you know.

Blogger Hammerli280 December 03, 2015 6:32 AM  

@12
If we dispose of the quislings, whipping the terrorists will be easy.

Blogger Hammerli280 December 03, 2015 6:34 AM  

What I find obnoxious but predictable were the demands for more gun laws before the terrorists were even caught.

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 03, 2015 6:48 AM  

@ 19 I am waiting for the day that a reporter actually asks " how would gun restriction have helped in this situation?" and then doggedly challenge any platitude spewed in response. Considering the continued rise in firearms ownership in the US I have to believe that day is coming soon.

Blogger Phillip George December 03, 2015 6:51 AM  

Clay someone here a week or so ago posited that the solution is simply to bomb Mecca to nothing. With no Kaaba, there's no Haj, no pillars, no religion. It actually fits in with the fatalism mindset of Islam as well. You know the biggest bastard must have the will of allah otherwise they wouldn't have succeeded in being the biggest bastard.
I don't have the launch codes. Heather Cole got relieved of duty and maybe that saved all our lives. It was the wrong target.
Anyway if 9nania is right we're in the last three weeks. If she's right.

Blogger DadOfTen December 03, 2015 6:51 AM  

"Anthropogenic Global Warming/Climate Change is to blame"

Very likely. Anthropogenic means: caused by anthropologists. What do anthropologist do? They study people and societies. They study societies where cows fart, burp, and cause global warming. And let's not talk about the goats and sheep. That's just gross. They also study western societies were we don't give away enough stuff to force people to have a high self opinion so they love and respect all people, living in cosmic harmony with everyone except Republicans and Southern Baptists, who are all anthropologists.

I rest my case.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 03, 2015 6:58 AM  

I would say with the severity of any actual control on sales of guns in this geographical construct called the USA this country would go tribal rather quickly. I think it kind of ironic that guns or the thought of the 2A allows us the fantasy of rugged individuals not nationalists or soon to be tribalists.

We are being driven towards a Yugoslavian ending, or beginning if you are an optimist like myself.

Go ahead Obama and you SJW fuckwads target old white men such as myself with your hateful rhetoric, double down assholes.

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 7:17 AM  

MantraMan, the problem in any civil war scenario is that there would be no surrender and thus no reconstruction or recovery this time. Whatever war took place would bog down into an endless series of reprisals as no side would be able to muster the cohesion and forces necessary for a clear cut victory. Once the genie of civil war is released from his bottle there would be nothing to stop once allied factions from breaking down over some point and fighting each other. The whole face of the land would be one continual round of murder and bloodshed.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 03, 2015 7:17 AM  

You are going to read it here first, assuming this massacre is related to work issues, I will say right now that Farook got his jihad on over a tiff with a female coworker or supervisor.

Anonymous 0007 December 03, 2015 7:19 AM  

This was obviously just another random lone wolf workplace violence attack incident that was undoubtably related to Farooks' obsession with climate change and caused by his inability to necessary effect changes to local enviro-law in spite of his AA position as a county enviro-Nazi... That's what the AP stylebook says anyway.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 03, 2015 7:22 AM  

#24 I can't game that far I would say when the reprisals begin the outside powers will rush to join sides, they might be able to force a conclusion, maybe even outright land grabs.

Who knows, but I do know that what constitutes "my" side is in fits and starts learning the importance of the moral level of war, the most important part of war.

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 7:27 AM  

MantraMan, yes. I can see the logic there. If it is sufficiently bad others may try to capitalize on it and that could force a conclusion. What would you say is the most important thing to take into account when it comes to the moral level of war? I had a back and forth a month or two ago in this blog with Vox about that. I am not sure I came to the same positions that he espoused but it is a topic I am very interested in and one that I am always eager to get others' take on.

Anonymous RedJack #22 December 03, 2015 7:34 AM  

The SJW's are already calling this domestic terrorism by white extremists. Oh, and we need to ban all guns in private hands to stop another attack.

I have friends who still believe this was an attack on a PP site by white Christian men.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 December 03, 2015 7:59 AM  

@redjack: just more "workplace violence" by "white" "Americans" of no particular race or religion. To their credit, Democrats have been trying to ban workplaces for some time now, so we can't blame them. Clearly the guns made them do it and, as "white" "Americans" of no particular race or religion, the murderers were only reacting to racist, xenophobic, bigoted hatred directed at them by white American Christians.

Blogger ncartist December 03, 2015 8:07 AM  

The shooters are ISIS and they are instruments of the regime:
When the identity was censored for hours, because it all sounded Muslim, looked Muslim, acted Muslim and was Muslim.
This is Obama ISIS, and if you happen to hashtag remember, the ISIS pages were taking credit for their three lions who did this. In other words, the story no one is reporting is that ISIS knew this attack was coming, meaning that Sayed Farouk was in direct contact with Obama's main terror group, which Obama had been funding and training.

Blogger veinarmor December 03, 2015 8:12 AM  

The jew works tirelessly to infest your countries with hordes of feral, sub-80 IQ, goat fornicating turnips, while simultaneously working to strip you of any means of protecting yourself from said turnips. The jew is at war with white people. Make no mistake. The proof is unassailable and easily found.
Expel the jew, experience peace.

Blogger paradox December 03, 2015 8:12 AM  

The first shots of WIII we're fired in Paris, three weeks ago.... let's pray the first shots of the 2nd American civil war didn't start in CA yesterday.

Blogger Gaiseric December 03, 2015 8:17 AM  

@28: "In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children."

Blogger bob k. mando December 03, 2015 8:25 AM  

heard on the radio this morning that there was a police 'training exercise' going on just around the corner from this shootup.

you don't say?

why is there almost ALWAYS cops 'training' right next door when these things go down?

Blogger ncartist December 03, 2015 8:30 AM  

16. Accordian guy
If he is still alive they may be more cautious about releasing his name due to various legal issues

Tell that to the "Boston Bombing" brothers.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 03, 2015 8:37 AM  

Hashtags. More #'s would have stopped them.

If the Peaceful Wahabis shot up a Christmas party(I assume if it was a Kwanzaa party we would have already been told) there is proof of a real war on Christmas.

Blogger Floyd Looney December 03, 2015 8:45 AM  

Reports that the shooters had Go-Pro cameras attached to them when they were killed....

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 03, 2015 8:53 AM  

It's not ISIS.

It was a lone wolf op but an interesting one.

This guy appears to have been radicalized in Saudi Arabia. The Mabahith has kept actual ISIS cells out of Saudi, yet their preferred choice of weapon (assuming it was) the AK-74 indicates a certain level of low level, low brow tactical training. An AR-15 variant is just a lot easier to get ahold of in this country.

Also he and wife(?) could not have bought them legally in California.

Regardless the press is continuing to use the magic words, "Mass Shooting," instead of "Terrorist Attack."

The Opposite of Truth is Narrative. SJWs always lie.

Anonymous joe doakes December 03, 2015 9:13 AM  

Picture a pleasant California town with bright, clean streets and cheerful workers. One young man from a troubled family is just smart enough to get a local government job but has marginal social skills and can't get a girl, perhaps because of his extreme religious views.

A friend shows him a mail-order-bride website, he makes a quick trip to Saudi Arabia where he meets a Pakistani woman eager to bed him, and he brings her back to America as his wife. Immigration is not a problem.

Wife? or Handler? Was this a match made in Heaven or a honey-trap to build a sleeper agent?

Some time later, he attends the company Christmas party and learns the stupid bi**h in charge has ordered ham dinner for the party, which he can't eat. He comes home furious, "wife" can't calm him to stay on mission, so they improvise and kill everyone in sight before fleeing.

But her senior control realizes that if captured, they'll blow the entire ring of sleeper agents so he phones in a tip, which results in police killing the fleeing suspects in a shoot-out.

Tom Clancy, call your office.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 03, 2015 9:31 AM  

#39 " Also he and wife(?) could not have bought them legally in California."

It is even doubtful that they could have bought them legally in any state. Most states require in state gun dealers selling long guns to out of state residents to follow the state law of the buyer's home state. Illinois residents who buy a long gun from a dealer in Kentucky are not allowed to take their weapon home for 24 hours, the same as the Illinois waiting period.
Since the firearms are banned in California it is doubtful a FFL dealer would sell to them. Person to person sales across state lines are illegal according to the ATF.

Anonymous Legatus December 03, 2015 9:32 AM  

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/604
According to this, the culprit is pork sausages and bacon, being "an insult to Islam". Solution, ban pork. This will result in a lot of excess pork which can then be used as a weapon.

Blogger LES December 03, 2015 9:34 AM  

Not trolling. Seriously. The plan was to destabilize all the Muslim countries near Israel.
As far as those Muslims are concerned, "Christian" America is out to destroy them, their countries and their religion. I'm sure if you just go by body count the US is winning; we have killed way more of them than they have of us. We bomb them back to the Stone Age and use drones to take out weddings and funerals.

Blogger JN December 03, 2015 9:37 AM  

@43 We bomb them back to the Stone Age

What's that, like half a bomb's worth?

OpenID richard1j December 03, 2015 9:40 AM  

Could it be that the third shooter has diplomatic immunity?

Blogger LES December 03, 2015 9:45 AM  

Not trolling. Seriously. The plan was to destabilize all the Muslim countries near Israel.
As far as those Muslims are concerned, "Christian" America is out to destroy them, their countries and their religion. I'm sure if you just go by body count the US is winning; we have killed way more of them than they have of us. We bomb them back to the Stone Age and use drones to take out weddings and funerals.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 03, 2015 9:46 AM  

@41 Just annoyed myself by reading CNN.

According to them, the weapons were bought pre-ban. Still illegal to possess them but even Cali hasn't been crazy enough to try and enforce that.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 03, 2015 9:52 AM  

Ok, how does a devout Muslim up and take a trip to Saudi in the spring/earlier in the year and come back with a wife, then have a 6 month old baby with that same wife?

The accounts I have read make it seem like this spring trip was the first time he had met the woman. Was he shuttling back and forth to Saudi?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:05 AM  

@1 disambiguated

Yet again, nobody rushed the shooters while they reloaded (they weren't disciplined enough to maintain continuous fire by alternating their reload cycles), nobody tried to interfere by throwing objects, etc.
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How do you know this? I gave up after that ridiculous lame police press conference around 1:00am EST, and it started late on top.

Blogger Tom K. December 03, 2015 10:08 AM  

That is GOLD! Mark Steyn is my favorite undocumented journalist.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:08 AM  

@2 Sherwood family

I noticed the CAIR "frontlash"...i.e. don't condemn Muslims for the act of this single disturbed...blah, blah, blah...I wonder how anyone can listen to this any more.
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Yeah, maybe if Trump or Cruz gets in, then CAIR can be shut down, all those foreign infiltrators within can be hanged or deported, along with all associated mosques they are part of.


I have begun by replying, "Let's not condemn all of the Nazis for the crimes of a few. I mean, it isn't as if every last one of them was hustling people into the ovens at Auschwitz. Why do you want to blame the rest for the crimes of a few. Every group has bad apples in it." The effect is predictable.
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That's a really good one :P

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 03, 2015 10:09 AM  

The accounts I have read make it seem like this spring trip was the first time he had met the woman. Was he shuttling back and forth to Saudi?

Quite possible. Getting a legal entrance visa for a foreign spouse isn't that easy.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:11 AM  

@4 Phillip George

Vox Im sure I'm not the first person to spot the connection but a lot of these stories have black SUV's with tinted windows in them.
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This is also very popular with the BLM thug life. If you look back at a lot of the reports for rappers, football players, etc. Slasher Ray Lewis was in one when they murdered someone in Atlanta.


I'm thinking whether this is black ops, false flag, or the real Muhammad, I don't care. Every mosque is a foreign embassy for non me, not us, not we the people.
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Yes, this is true. There is no integration to be expected, and at this point, even wanted.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:20 AM  

@10 Lovekraft


We need more gun control, aid to muslim countries so they won't hurt us anymore.

All b.s. All of it. Leftists are becoming collaborators in these massacres.
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Oh yeah. I can't quite figure of Obama was calling for more gun control right before this, or after it started. Felt kind of choreographed.

And the endless amount of media scrubs somberly whining about gun control.

Maybe we should make it clear to these useless f*cks that if they keep going after our 2nd amendment, we will start going after the part of the 1st amendment regarding the press. They should start being held accountable in a severe way for lying, planting lies, feeding propaganda, and all their horseshit, unless it is clearly indicated as opinion.

If the 2nd amendment doesn't matter to them, then the rest of the Constitution shouldn't apply to them either.

Blogger The Other Robot December 03, 2015 10:21 AM  

It is no accident that the Muslims tried this in CA, which is essentially one large gun-free zone.

Blogger The Other Robot December 03, 2015 10:24 AM  

RT in an article on the guns used in the Muslim Rampage in CA implies that they were AR-style rifles, but The Conservative Tree House claims they were AK-74s (based on a shot of a spent cartridge.)

It is interesting that the Muslim Maniacs (but I repeat myself) could only kill unarmed people. Once they faced the cops they seem not to have scored a hit.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:25 AM  

@24 Sherwood family

The whole face of the land would be one continual round of murder and bloodshed.
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Isn't it already like that, without a civil war?

Blogger dc.sunsets December 03, 2015 10:27 AM  

there's an upside to all this. Candle lit vigils are a really cool place to hang out and meet chicks. Like they're really awesome, twitter friendly. It's almost a festive mood. You should join in, Do a selfie and post it so everyone can see your empathy. There's one on tonight.

From the Chateau, for sure you should wear on of these, too:
https://www.zazzle.com/make_america_white_again_embroidered_hats-233490873457203218

Solution, ban pork. This will result in a lot of excess pork which can then be used as a weapon.

Solution: have all police (and interested proletarians) field with pork-filled Jacketed Hollowpoints, and make sure to spread that fact widely.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:27 AM  

@29 RedJack #22

I have friends who still believe this was an attack on a PP site by white Christian men.
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You need some better more intelligent friends...

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 03, 2015 10:32 AM  

@56: The thoroughly unreliable Conservative Treehouse also claimed you can't buy AK-74 pattern rifles in the US. Here are roughly 50 for sale through the GrunBroker.com site.

To my eyes it looked indistinguishable from .223/5.56 NATO, which it apparently was, either from the police or the shooters, who's AR-15 pattern gun models have now been publicized.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:32 AM  

@32 veinarmor

Expel the jew, experience peace.
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Is Obama a jew?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 10:33 AM  

@35 bob k. mando

why is there almost ALWAYS cops 'training' right next door when these things go down?
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Yeah. And notice how it also follows almost simultaneous with Obamas stupid comments on gun control. And it wasn't it maybe the day before he was jabbering about mass shootings only happen in the US?

Smells very fishy.

Blogger The Other Robot December 03, 2015 10:38 AM  

@60, having looked at their comparison again of the casings, the one from the scene has a beveled casing where it leads to the (rebated) rim. That seems to be the same as the 5.56 casing they show, not the other two.

Blogger Shimshon December 03, 2015 10:59 AM  

I don't understand how it was so easy for this guy to procure a wife and bring her with him back to the US. I know US citizens in Israel who have married non-citizens, and just the non-citizen spouse VISITING often entailed a great deal of paperwork, depending on their own origin. What I remember is the attitude at the consulate being one of, perhaps this is a marriage of convenience, and we don't buy your story.

Blogger pyrrhus December 03, 2015 11:05 AM  

@61
Yes, according to jewish law, Obama is a jew by matrilineal descent...

Blogger bob k. mando December 03, 2015 11:09 AM  

holy shit, look at this dumbass:
http://www.unz.com/isteve/san-bernardino-shooting/#comments
"The killer has a dating profile:
“religios but modern family of 4, 2girls 2boys I work for county as health,safety and envorimental inspector. Enjoy working on vintage and modern cars, read religios books, enjoy eating out sometimes travel and just hang out in back yard doing target pratice with younger sister and friends. ”

His literacy level is about that of a 7th grader. Maybe worse, using the word “religios” twice. He made $70,000 in his mid 20′s last year working for the local government, no doubt with some very expensive pension and benefit plan. While an environmental inspector of some sort, he also does not know how to spell “environmental.
”"


damn. it's good to be colored in Cuckmerica.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 03, 2015 11:23 AM  

42 https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/604
According to this, the culprit is pork sausages and bacon, being "an insult to Islam". Solution,


If this is true its even worse then when jooos complain that free food provided isn't marked kosher, because there was other alternatives at the party. The food is free. Not only that but most people couldn't bug out as fast as he came back with 2 other people in gear.

https://www.zazzle.com/make_america_white_again_embroidered_hats-233490873457203218

Like duck dynasty any liberal will find out people wont react as jewish lesbian gatekeepers think. I had a white privilege shirt made like someone else posted about and 95% of people willing to say anything to a 6' plus guy was favorable.

@56: The thoroughly unreliable Conservative Treehouse also claimed you can't buy AK-74 pattern rifles in the

That was in the comments section not article. I doubt you can buy them easily in CA. Was there as many 74s on before this brought attention to them?

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 03, 2015 11:24 AM  

Perhaps it was 'Sumdood Abu-Killah' or even our old standby 'Dindu Nuffins' along for the ride because he be outraged over climate change's creation of food deserts in the ol' hood. The one thing that Ministry of Truth will be sure to repeat is that it has nothing, nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, which as you've mentioned stands for nothing more than 'peace' (repeating the assertions of the greatest Islamic theologian of all time, Imam al-Duhbya, the Mahdi of West Texas).

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 03, 2015 11:27 AM  

I don't understand how it was so easy for this guy to procure a wife and bring her with him back to the US.

While the border patrol let 3rd world low IQ MS-13 facial tattooed mestizos cross the border in the summer of 2014 they arrested the wife of a US marine veteran who was a Cambridge graduate that spoke 5 languages. It's the same situation as bath house Barry specifically calling out and using govt force to kick out the German Asylum seeker family that wanted to homeschool their kids but lets in moslems less vetted than the Oregon College shooter and boston marathon bros

Blogger Chris Mallory December 03, 2015 11:30 AM  

They are now saying two AR pattern rifles were used. A DPMS and a S&W MP-15.

DPMS currently has their website "down for maintenance"

Blogger Chris Mallory December 03, 2015 11:35 AM  

They are now saying two AR pattern rifles were used. A DPMS and a S&W MP-15.

DPMS currently has their website "down for maintenance"

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 03, 2015 11:36 AM  

@67: My mistake in not mentioning it was the Conservative Treehouse's Twitter feed where I saw the AK-74 misstatements, specifically one, two, three and four, but I now see followed up by a blog posting.

I have no trouble where their hearts seem to be at, they've just been too wildly inaccurate, in this case about easily verifiable things, to be worth my time, Gell-Mann Amnesia is not my thing.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 03, 2015 11:53 AM  

@70: Note the S&W M&P-15 was introduced in 2006, and DPMS (now a Remington subsidiary which is part of the Freedom Group) got into the fully manufactured rifle business no sooner than the late '90s, which makes these guns illegal in California unless substantially modified, which includes a "bullet button" magazine well feature that makes for very slow reloading (note at the end of the article which gun-running legislator tried to get that feature banned). They may have been "legally purchased" as the ATF is telling us, but not if they were bought to transfer to the couple (that's a straw purchase), and the transfer would be illegal.

Then again, see my comment about Gell-Mann Amnesia @72, why are we believing anything the the government is saying to us?

The saving grace is that we have four levels of government involved (city, county, state, Federal), and competing units at most of the levels (executive and courts, FBI and ATF), that makes it much more dangerous to lie about obvious things. For example, few in law enforcement will want the purchaser to walk if his lawyers catch the government lying in court.

Anonymous The other robot December 03, 2015 11:55 AM  

Yes, according to jewish law, Obama is a jew by matrilineal descent...

Can you spell it out a bit more?

His mother was Jewish?

Blogger ScuzzaMan December 03, 2015 12:15 PM  

Where's the third shooter?

On their way back to Langley for debriefing.

Blogger Tom K. December 03, 2015 12:52 PM  

Vigil Game?

Social Concern Game?

Blogger Tom K. December 03, 2015 12:52 PM  

Vigil Game?

Social Concern Game?

Blogger bob k. mando December 03, 2015 2:32 PM  

74. The other robot December 03, 2015 11:55 AM
Can you spell it out a bit more?
His mother was Jewish?




according to Jewish law, identification as a racial Jew comes down from the mother's side.

otoh, i don't know why he's asserting that Obama's mother was Jewish. Stanley Anne and both of her parents all identified as Protestants of predominantly English ancestry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madelyn_Dunham

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 03, 2015 2:48 PM  

@75 John Doe Number 2 Strikes again

Anonymous BGS December 03, 2015 2:54 PM  

Obama is a jew by matrilineal descent... Can you spell it out a bit more? His mother was Jewish?

He is as jewish as Libya's Kaddafi was.

Blogger Danby December 03, 2015 3:16 PM  

I don't understand how it was so easy for this guy to procure a wife and bring her with him back to the US.

A 6 month tourist visa is very easy to get in Saudi. It's not like she was planning on staying....


OBTW: An "environmental health specialist" is a restaurant health inspector.

Anonymous Mr. Muster December 03, 2015 3:44 PM  

The jew works tirelessly to infest your countries with hordes of feral, sub-80 IQ, goat fornicating turnips

Interesting, because the leftists in Germany are currently quite furious over the Jews because of this:

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https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Finland%2Fzentralrat-juden-fluechtlinge-101.html&edit-text=

"Central Council of Jews wants fewer refugees"

The Central Council of Jews in Germany called for a limit on the influx of refugees. "Sooner or later we will not be able to avoid ceilings" Central Council President Josef Schuster told the newspaper "Die Welt".

As justification Schuste called r especially the challenges of integration. "Many of the refugees are fleeing the terror of the 'Islamic State' and want to live in peace and freedom, but at the same time they come cultures where the hatred of Jews, and intolerance is an integral part," he said. "Think not only of the Jews, think of the equality between men and women or dealing with homosexuals."

The refugee organization Pro Asyl criticized the call for ceilings. "It's strange, when the CSU and the Central Council of Jews in fact demanding to put the European Convention on Human Rights override" said pro-asylum-CEO Günter Burkhardt AFP.

Both the Geneva Convention and the European Convention on Human Rights guaranteed protection against refoulement at the border in each individual case, Burkhardt said. If refugees landed on Europe's shores by boat, no one could say: "Now we turn to the boat and send it back."

Anonymous Slowpoke December 03, 2015 3:49 PM  

California's ban* in private gun sales means the rifles were not legally purchased.

*if private transfer or sale between two people the gun still must go through a dealer and be recorded.

Anonymous Adam1 December 03, 2015 3:58 PM  

@40. That`s almost what I thought this morning after I heard the latest reports. Or given that it was reported that their home was a `bomb factory` with enough stuff to make 100 pipe bombs or more it maybe that something alarmed them that they had been `made` so they hit the panic button.

Anonymous bw December 03, 2015 4:16 PM  

At least Maurice Strong has died. Reap it, MFer.
Very important globalist in the AGW taxation and lockdown game, working with Rockefellers etc for 40 years.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 03, 2015 4:31 PM  

I don't understand how it was so easy for this guy to procure a wife and bring her with him back to the US.

You raise a good point: foreign brides are the one type of immigrant that our government actually tries to prevent, making American men jump through many expensive and time-consuming legal hoops to bring in wives.

However, we learned after 9/11 that the Saudis had basically been given an express pass through the entire immigration system, and there's no reason to think that ever changed. I suspect that the importance of pleasing our Saudi/Wahhabi friends trumped the importance of keeping an American (or "American") man from becoming happily married.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 03, 2015 4:38 PM  

One report I read said she had a "K-Fiancee" Visa

Blogger Fatebekind December 03, 2015 4:47 PM  

Malik and Farook were husband and wife, according to the Los Angeles Times newspaper, while the police would only say they were "in a relationship".
However the FBI reported that according to Farook's Facebook page, his relationship status was listed as,"It's complicated," while the ATF said his Match.com profile said,"Married but still looking."

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2015 7:02 PM  

@68 Gen. Kong

The one thing that Ministry of Truth will be sure to repeat is that it has nothing, nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, which as you've mentioned stands for nothing more than 'peace' (repeating the assertions of the greatest Islamic theologian of all time, Imam al-Duhbya, the Mahdi of West Texas).
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Was within the last couple of weeks Hitlery said something like "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. Terrorism has nothing whatsoever to do with islam."

Blogger Sherwood family December 03, 2015 8:37 PM  

K-fiancee visa would be the one easiest to use. You cannot marry overseas, you have to bring the fiancee to the U.S. and marry there within 90 days of arrival. It is not a terribly high bar to receive one. I used to adjudicate those all the time. You have to demonstrate that you have actually met and show evidence of a relationship. Though you would not believe the kinds of things people brought to the interview to show "evidence". Some photos stay with you forever...ick. The law as written makes this the easiest class of visa for someone who wants to get married. Marrying overseas and then filing for a spouse is a longer process. As has been noted elsewhere the system is broken...very, very broken. But K visas are clean and tidy compared with the mess that is the visa lottery. That thing is a literal dysgenic and dis-civic machine. The kinds of applicants who qualify under that system and the bar for their qualifications is so low that almost anyone can step right over it. Regardless, we still had to deal with applicants who tried to slide under the qualifications in a game of stupidity limbo. The law is in serious and desperate need of overhauling. Even my most reflexively liberal colleagues wanted to obliterate the visa lottery because they could see the long term consequences of what the policy was bringing into the U.S. Sad, but that is what happens when you watch how the sausage is made. You somehow lose your appetite for it.

OpenID Jack Amok December 03, 2015 9:12 PM  

given that it was reported that their home was a `bomb factory` with enough stuff to make 100 pipe bombs or more it maybe that something alarmed them that they had been `made` so they hit the panic button.

I figure Farook was your garden-variety dissatisfied, unbalanced and not successful with the ladies mook who was an easy mark for the recruiters at the local Religion-of-Peace Jihadi Training center (aka "mosque").

So they recruit him, line him up with a Saudi down-payment on his 92 virgins, and proceed to train him in bomb-making and terror-spreading.

Part of that training was pushing his buttons to hate the West ever more, but since he was an unbalanced mook to begin with, he was always just an insult away from pulling his own pin. So he ended up going off against his coworkers, and taking his loony "wife" with him.

I expect he is more the norm than the exception in their sleeper cells. Figure this will go on more often as the nut-cases they've recruited and radicalized gradually destabilized to the detonation point.

Anonymous VFM 261 December 03, 2015 9:56 PM  

Your reasoning feels right to me. The takeaway is to not befriend ROP's at all, since sooner or later the bad eggs will crack and you'll already be on to-do list post scramble.

Apparently the dude had the red carpet rolled out at work and still murdered his friends.

Blogger Anthony December 04, 2015 1:45 AM  

Since terrorism has nothing to do with true Islam, and the terrorists are not true Muslims, can we bury them in pigskin and fill the bullet holes with pork fat, and make this known? Because after all, it's not disrespecting real Muslims.

Blogger Toolate December 05, 2015 10:58 AM  

Hopefully they don't end up at your unprotected house. Regrets won't matter.

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