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Wednesday, December 30, 2015

This is how much he doesn't care

Science Fiction's smiling sociopath, John Scalzi, declares he is GLAD and DELIGHTED to be ruining science fiction:
    Today I saw a rant on Reddit about me ruining science fiction, and I was all, "YES I AM AND I WILL RUIN IT FOR ANOTHER 13 BOOKS AT LEAST"
    — John Scalzi (@scalzi) December 29, 2015

    ALL OF SCIENCE FICTION WILL FALL TO MY RUINATION WHICH CONSISTS APPARENTLY OF HAVING THE OCCASIONAL FEMALE CHARACTER WITH AGENCY
    — John Scalzi (@scalzi) December 29, 2015

    IN THE END THERE WILL BE ONLY ME AND THE BONES OF THE GRANDMASTERS I'VE POOPED UPON or something really it's kind of confusing to me tbh
    — John Scalzi (@scalzi) December 29, 2015

    But, yeah. If you think I'm ruining science fiction you're just gonna have to suck on that shitsicle for another decade at least. Enjoy!
    — John Scalzi (@scalzi) December 29, 2015

    (To be fair to Reddit, someone there was merely excerpting the rant from elsewhere. It's not Reddit's fault! This time!)
    — John Scalzi (@scalzi) December 29, 2015

    I'll note the fellow whining I was ruining SF was also self-evidently racist and sexist, so I'm ESPECIALLY glad to ruin SF for that jerk.
    — John Scalzi (@scalzi) December 29, 2015

Seriously, words can’t express how delighted I am to vex and annoy bigoted turds like this one, simply by existing and publishing. Because I do exist. And I will publish! The contracts are signed! Barring death itself, there is no way to stop the decade-long flood of my ruination of the science fiction! Best of all, I don’t have to do anything other than publish to irritate this sad sack of crap. And I was going to do that anyway. It’s the perfect storm of least effort on my part.

Here’s the thing: If I ruin the genre of science fiction for you, or if the presence in the genre of people whose politics and positions you don’t like ruins the genre for you — the whole genre, in which hundreds of traditionally published works and thousands of self-and-micro-pubbed works are produced annually — then, one, oh well, and two, you pretty much deserve to have the genre ruined for you. It doesn’t have to be ruined, mind you, because chances are pretty good that within those thousands of works published annually, you’ll find something that rings your bell. And if you do, why should you care about the rest of it? It’s literally not your problem. Find the work you’ll love and then love it, and support the authors who make it, hopefully with money.

But if you’re determined that I or any author, or feminists or socialists or whomever are ruining the genre, then you’ve given those people the power to ruin the genre for you, whether they care what you think or not, or whether or not they even know you exist. And, speaking personally, if a sexist, bigoted cloacal squirt of a human wants to give me that power, then sure, I’ll be happy to ruin the genre for them through no additional effort of my own. Why, yes, I am destroying science fiction! With glee! And I’m going to be destroying it a lot over the next ten years at least.

So, you might want to pack a lunch, chuckles. I’m not going anywhere. I’m going to be here in science fiction a nice, long, productive time. I’m going to write what I want to write, how I want to write it, and I’m going to have a hell of a lot of fun while I’m at it. And if you think that ruins the genre, then that’s your problem, not mine.
Perhaps John Scalzi is going to write what he wants to write, write it how he wants to write it, and have a hell of a lot of fun while he's at it.

But Tor Books isn't going to publish it....

"Tor has decided to wait until 2017 to release the next new one."

As one of my friends in the industry commented, "I thought it was going to take until the fourth book was due before Scalzi couldn't deliver. He couldn't even come through on the first one!"

Then again, maybe this is just his way of secretly endorsing the Tor Books boycott through sabotage. Wheels within wheels, my friends. Wheels within wheels.

UPDATE: Johnny Con says the problem isn't that the book has been rejected, but rather, he hasn't written it yet.
I understand that one of my constant detractors is asserting that the reason the first book of my new contract comes out in 2017 and not 2016 is because I turned in a manuscript and it was terrible and now Tor is trying to salvage things. This is the same person, if memory serves, who asserted that Lock In was a failure and Tor was planning to dump me, shortly before Tor, in fact, handed me a multi-million dollar contract, which included a sequel to Lock In.

Now, as then, his head is up his ass and he’s speaking on things he knows nothing about. I haven’t turned in a manuscript; there’s no manuscript to turn in. They (remember I’m working on two) haven’t been written yet. To be clear, the only thing I’ve turned in to Tor since submitting my manuscript for The End of All Things is my contract for the next set of books. That was accepted without any additional revision, I would note.

For the avoidance of doubt, you should assume that any speculation about me or my career coming from that quarter is based on equal parts of ignorance, craven maliciousness, and pathetic longing for my attention, and almost certainly false. Anything said by that person about me is likely to be incorrect, down to and including indefinite articles.
SJWs always lie. I have never claimed that Lock In was a failure or that Tor was planning to dump John Scalzi. Here is what I actually wrote about Lock In:

It's so typical of SF/F's Bernie Madoff that he claims I am "so very wrong" when events have gone EXACTLY as I predicted they would. It's not that Lock In has been a massive failure; most, though not all, books by a reasonably known author that have been pushed as hard as Tor has pushed Lock In will be similarly successful in its first month. Initial "success" in the publishing industry is, to a great extent, predetermined by the publisher's decisions concerning print runs and marketing budgets....

So, it's no surprise that Lock In is superficially successful, as Tor has invested a lot of money (relatively speaking) in the marketing of the book in both obvious ways, such as the author's nationwide book tour and the reviews in various media outlets, and less obvious ways, such as buying the book onto the New York Times Bestseller list.  


The point isn't that Lock In isn't successful, it is that it isn't successful enough to justify the investment PNH is making in Scalzi, or the opportunity cost that their marketing efforts in it represent. Notice that I even anticipated his new contract:  

In any event, Scalzi is spinning his "success" in the same way that an NFL running back's agent spins it when he's angling for a new contract.

Angling successfully, as it happens. But he's spinning, always spinning, even trying here to retroactively salvage his past lies: "Anything said by that person about me is likely to be incorrect, down to and including indefinite articles."

After all, if you can't trust Mr. Two Million Monthly Views, who can you trust?

UPDATE 2: LT has the scoop on Scalzi's big new book!
Scalzi has a great new book coming out in 2017. The big evil is Vahkks Gayder, and MaryJon saves the galaxy by xerself, using the Snark.

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117 Comments:

Anonymous 334 December 30, 2015 5:35 AM  

But Tor Books isn't going to publish it....

I am very fond of this sort of terse, devastating comeback to oceans of frothing blather.

Lesson noted, Sensei.

Anonymous Laughing again December 30, 2015 5:36 AM  

The only thing Scalzi is going to be destroying is Tor's market share and finances.

Anonymous Dave Gerrold's Cabana Boy December 30, 2015 5:38 AM  

...and that (sinking For) is pretty worthwhile I think. Rock on, Johnny Con!

Blogger Edward Isaacs December 30, 2015 5:39 AM  

Couldn't find a link on his site, but I *think* this is the reddit post he's referring to. It's hard to be sure, but the times seem to match up between his comment and his twitter posts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/3yof9c/i_bailed_out_of_sf_back_at_the_turn_of_the/

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery December 30, 2015 5:46 AM  

In one of his manic phases, is he?

Anonymous What Ho! December 30, 2015 5:48 AM  

Has Damien Walter has become Scalzi's role model?

Anonymous Ain December 30, 2015 5:56 AM  

There he goes on and on about feces again.

Blogger Shimshon December 30, 2015 5:59 AM  

Does he even realize how much he sounds like an idiot (or raving lunatic)? Even the Torlings have got to be concerned about his ranting, especially when he should be working on improving his writing instead.

Seriously, delaying a book is a Very Bad Sign.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer December 30, 2015 6:16 AM  

@7

Puts me in mind of somebody suffering from tourrettes with "homophobic, racist, sexist" being their curse words.

Anonymous Scipio africanus December 30, 2015 6:19 AM  

The Scalzi train is not fine. It is running late.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery December 30, 2015 6:24 AM  

The Scalzi train.

Anonymous jSinSaTx December 30, 2015 6:26 AM  

If he meant it then the rant would not be half bad. No individual author is ruining anything. No one author could. But his side does not behave like that. If a non approved person wins an award it is back to the dark ages. Prior authors are not to be celebrated for what they built but torn down for what they were not. His side believed aci fi was bad and that it needed saving. That is the disconnect. It invited the backlash.

And dont go overboard on how bad a sign a book delay is folks…not like we havent had a delay on VDs next release. It is doubtful that he has anything going on at nearly the scope that Vox has had this year, but release dates on many things shift for non dire reasons.

Blogger Sherwood family December 30, 2015 6:27 AM  

The fact that he is bandying about his 13 book contract while he is already behind on the first one seems like a portent of things to come. I suppose that it would be funny if it weren't so...pathetic.

Anonymous 334 December 30, 2015 6:31 AM  

@10.

I can't NOT CLICK! It's like a disease ...

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery December 30, 2015 6:37 AM  

And dont go overboard on how bad a sign a book delay is folks…not like we havent had a delay on VDs next release.

Difference is:

* Vox doesn't have a boss

* Tor didn't recently bet the company on Vox

* Tor doesn't desperately need a whole bunch of new, successful, Vox books to backfill their loss of the Halo franchise

* Vox isn't spazzing all over the internet about the above

Dunno if you've read any Scalzi books, but delaying a whole year is just fucking weird. He's not Tolstoy or Tolkien, it really shouldn't take him that long. He's not Stephen King, so delaying more than four quarters isn't going to make his book more eagerly anticipated by readers.

Unless they completely rejected his manuscript and/or are bringing in a ghost writer to fix it.

Blogger VD December 30, 2015 6:38 AM  

dont go overboard on how bad a sign a book delay is folks

You don't appear to understand how the book industry works. A delay from an indy-published author who hasn't finished writing the book yet because he published two other books instead is entirely different from a delay from a mainstream-published author who has already turned in the book.

A publisher doesn't delay a book from its biggest name author for a year because the book is good. That book was already in the catalogs and being pitched to retailers. Now, it's possible that some rewrites and "tweaks" will salvage it; that's why Redshirts has three "codas" and the book was successful in the end. But the odds aren't good.

Remember, Redshirts didn't have to be a hit. ALL of Scalzi's subsequent books do.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 30, 2015 6:38 AM  

He should double down, I'm not impressed by this rant. I promise if the next rant is much better I will go off into the usual conservative's impotent rage, but this rant is frackin lame.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx December 30, 2015 6:43 AM  

@5. Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery
In one of his manic phases, is he?

How could you tell? Dost Scalzi protesteth too much?


@6. Ain December 30, 2015 5:56 AM

There he goes on and on about feces again.

Ya think? Cloaca: the posterior orifice that serves as the only opening... All amphibians, birds, reptiles, and a few mammals have this orifice, from which they excrete both urine and feces...

Scalzi projects:

THE GRANDMASTERS I'VE POOPED UPON
you're just gonna have to suck on that shitsicle
Seriously, words can’t express how delighted I am to vex and annoy bigoted turds like this one*
Best of all, I don’t have to do anything other than publish to irritate this sad sack of crap.*
And, speaking personally, if a sexist, bigoted cloacal squirt of a human wants to give me that power, then sure, I’ll be happy to ruin*


*The last three are in re Vox Day, aka Samuel Clemens. I like Philo Pedofer's "random strand of junk DNA" better, it's more creative than simply associating excrement with your scapegoat, something children and chimpanzees do. At any rate, Scalzi provides further proof of VD's effective action.

Anonymous Ain December 30, 2015 6:56 AM  

I've never seen anything like it, and that's not praise.

Anonymous peeoh December 30, 2015 6:56 AM  

nice double standard. what number is the threshold between hundreds of published works and six nominated works? A Hugo category is tainted and ruined by double bad people for a single nomination, but you are a loser if sci-fi is ruined by a single author.

Anonymous YIH December 30, 2015 7:07 AM  

DOES HE SHOUT LIKE THAT IRL TOO?
It's a good thing that a program can simply 're-shift' all text. Makes editing easier.
Ruining scifi one retarded twit at a time.
Hey, at least his daughter can beat him up... And should - regularly.

Blogger kudzu bob December 30, 2015 7:07 AM  

Scalzi is really a fiendishly cunning deep cover agent of Vox's who seeks to destroy Tor Books from within. I hope everyone appreciates what he gave up when he consented to be castrated in order to be more convincing in his role.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 30, 2015 7:14 AM  

Don't the SJW have a template by now? The Chicago Trib's affirmative action writers of diversity basically wrote the same article over and over, I don't see why the SJW publishers can't basically do the same thing. Its not like Star Wars the crappy rip off of the original is not following a template.

Blogger Jack Aubrey December 30, 2015 7:14 AM  

Scalzi seems to be dangerously close to giving a fuck.

Blogger Happy Housewife December 30, 2015 7:25 AM  

I like that he acts as if he is unaware of what's written about him here, until it's brought to his attention, yet his response (re: meltdown) happens within hours.

Yeah, we totes believe you don't care, McRapey!

Anonymous Strange Aeons December 30, 2015 7:31 AM  

It could be "writers block"...or, having taken a page from Scalzi's Twitter playbook, Creativity has him blocked and Inspiration has him muted. After all, have not SJW's made it abundantly clear that other ideas are scary and not welcome?

Anonymous jSinSaTx December 30, 2015 7:33 AM  

@VD

No, I do not claim to be an expert on publishing. You are a publisher and it carries some weight when you say this reflects an issue. A delayed book may or may not be an issue depending on the author and the reason. Maybe a big deal for Scalzi. Was not a deal for Butcher when Ghost Story was delayed. One for apparent reasons that the earlier release would have been crap but the delay would make it good. Worked out for him. Several Harry Potter books were delayed for various reasons. Worked out for her.

A book delay for Scalzi may be bad. A book delay on its own does not appear to as a rule have huge significance.


Blogger The Rev December 30, 2015 7:34 AM  

"Here’s the thing: If I ruin the genre of science fiction for you, or if the presence in the genre of people whose politics and positions you don’t like ruins the genre for you — the whole genre, in which hundreds of traditionally published works and thousands of self-and-micro-pubbed works are produced annually — then, one, oh well, and two, you pretty much deserve to have the genre ruined for you. ...Find the work you’ll love and then love it, and support the authors who make it, hopefully with money."

So...Scalzi is a Sad Puppy now? Because that's how I was talking right before I realized I supported the Sad Puppies.

Blogger OGRE December 30, 2015 7:39 AM  

Who talks like that? shitsickle, turd...seriously? He speaks like a 12 year old boy

Blogger VD December 30, 2015 7:42 AM  

You are a publisher and it carries some weight when you say this reflects an issue.

Except, of course, when I get it wrong. I assumed that with a 2016 publication date, Scalzi would have written at least one book already. But apparently PNH signed the contract on the basis of nothing more than outlines and promises.

Should be... interesting to see what happens in 2017.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 30, 2015 7:44 AM  

It sure looks to me like the delay is significant. Starting in 2011 Tor has published one Scalzi novel very roughly in the middle of the year, and everyone thinks his big contract is a big deal, although of course our interpretations of its significance vary. His prior announcement makes it clear his next novel was turned in a while ago, enough time for Tor to read it and decide to delay it, and pushing it to 2017 means at minimum a delay of half a year and probably pushing its revenue into the next fiscal year. There's just no way this can be good for Tor, and that means it isn't good for Scalzi, or PHN.

Blogger VD December 30, 2015 7:44 AM  

A book delay on its own does not appear to as a rule have huge significance.

Agreed. I doubt anyone will think the delay in A Sea of Skulls harmed it in the slightest. On the other hand, the delay prior to A Dance With Dragons was clearly indicative of the fact that Rape Rape was running out of ideas. We'll see if the same is true of the next book.

Blogger VD December 30, 2015 7:45 AM  

His prior announcement makes it clear his next novel was turned in a while ago, enough time for Tor to read it and decide to delay it, and pushing it to 2017 means at minimum a delay of half a year and probably pushing its revenue into the next fiscal year.

Except he is claiming now that he hasn't turned in anything or even written it. What was the exact statement; how was it clear?

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx December 30, 2015 7:46 AM  

@23. Jack Aubrey

Scalzi seems to be dangerously close to giving a fuck.


He may not give a fuck but he certainly gives a shit.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 30, 2015 7:53 AM  

Think of the SJW editing process and what a mess that does to creativity. I'll stand by what I wrote they should just replace the characters of past classics and call it art

Blogger Shimshon December 30, 2015 7:55 AM  

Regarding Vox's book delay...

Vox wrote two bestselling books in the interim. Scalzi wrote insane self-absorbed ramblings insisting the train is fine, when, in his case, really it's not.

Anonymous Miso Hawny December 30, 2015 8:06 AM  

"if the presence in the genre of people whose politics and positions you don’t like ruins the genre for you — the whole genre, in which hundreds of traditionally published works and thousands of self-and-micro-pubbed works are produced annually — then, one, oh well, and two, you pretty much deserve to have the genre ruined for you. It doesn’t have to be ruined, mind you, because chances are pretty good that within those thousands of works published annually, you’ll find something that rings your bell. And if you do, why should you care about the rest of it? It’s literally not your problem. Find the work you’ll love and then love it, and support the authors who make it, hopefully with money."



Amazing. It's as if he thought to himself, "how can I best demonstrate SJW rule #3?" before he went on that rant.

Anonymous Bz December 30, 2015 8:06 AM  

"IN THE END THERE WILL BE ONLY ME AND THE BONES OF THE GRANDMASTERS I'VE POOPED UPON"

At a guess, Delaney for one will be eager to participate.

Anonymous Bz December 30, 2015 8:12 AM  

Tick-tock writer's block, Scalzi. You could be the next GRRM, by which we mean fat and improductive for 15 years instead of closing the deal.

Anonymous Heh December 30, 2015 8:13 AM  

Who talks like that? shitsickle, turd...seriously? He speaks like a 12 year old boy

But he can't bench as much as a 12 year old boy! Who can bench more than his daughter, who can bench more than him.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 30, 2015 8:15 AM  

@32 VD:

His prior announcement makes it clear his next novel was turned in a while ago, enough time for Tor to read it and decide to delay it, and pushing it to 2017 means at minimum a delay of half a year and probably pushing its revenue into the next fiscal year.

Except he is claiming now that he hasn't turned in anything or even written it. What was the exact statement; how was it clear?


Ah, that was your very reasonable interpretation of his earlier statement(s), here:

"The recent announcement means that Scalzi hasn't been able to do it and his new novel didn't meet requirements. He turned it in, and after reading it, the editors at Tor know that it won't sell enough to meet their needs. So, they've pushed it back one year in the hopes that Scalzi can tweak it enough to turn it into something that will justify their investment in him."

SJWs always lie, and it looks much better to have not written a first draft that got sent back for major rework, so who knows? Something is very wrong to break the once a year publication cycle, and prior to that he seemed to be about as productive.

Blogger Zach December 30, 2015 8:39 AM  

if the presence in the genre of people whose politics and positions you don’t like ruins the genre for you...

Sure looks like an endorsement of the Puppies by Scalzi to me.

Blogger Austin Ballast December 30, 2015 8:54 AM  

What has he been doing since the last book then? Aren't writers supposed to write?

Anonymous WinstonWebb December 30, 2015 8:56 AM  

What has he been doing since the last book then?

Admiring his lawn, not working out, and going up a dress size?

Anonymous fish December 30, 2015 9:00 AM  

Who talks like that? shitsickle, turd...seriously? He speaks like a 12 year old boy


Johnny Coprophile

Anonymous Bah December 30, 2015 9:05 AM  

if the presence in the genre of people whose politics and positions you don’t like ruins the genre for you...

The presence in the SFWA of people whose politics and positions McRapey doesn’t like ruined SFWA for him...

But McRapey is not burdened with honesty or consistency.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 30, 2015 9:08 AM  

Isn't he the lead dog of that Chester the Molester outfit the SFWA? My apologies to dogs

Blogger Hohokam71 December 30, 2015 9:12 AM  

Yesterday evening I downloaded and read the first four free chapters of “Redshirts”. I had not wanted to read this book before, assuming that it was nothing more than an extended-length retelling of a well-known trope. However, with the recent discussion of Scalzi’s abilities, I wanted to find out for myself if he had developed since his earlier works. While reading, I became bored with his writing style and nodded off somewhere during Chapter 3. If his writing in this sample was engaging, or if Lock-In was not still in pristine condition at my local library, I would consider it reasonable to assume that his publisher’s delay was to tweak an outstanding novel and turn it into a work to be memorable for generations. In light of all evidence, Occam’s Razor holds that he actually did produce a dud presently unfit for release.

Among my favorite one-liners from popular culture is “A man’s got to know his limitations." A successful mind takes this advice to heart and focus intently upon overcoming those limitations – or moves on to another field and produces success. An unhealthy mind doesn’t recognize their limitations. Scalzi spends massive amounts of time on Twitter fishing for praise and acceptance from the social media crowd, instead of focusing upon being a better writer.

So now, does Macmillan cut him (and possibly his supporters within Tor) and be free to pay other writers who have the “fire in their belly” for success, or does Tor/Macmillan hire a ghostwriter - or overtly pair Scalzi up with a stronger author - to save face?

Blogger VD December 30, 2015 9:19 AM  

So now, does Macmillan cut him (and possibly his supporters within Tor) and be free to pay other writers who have the “fire in their belly” for success, or does Tor/Macmillan hire a ghostwriter - or overtly pair Scalzi up with a stronger author - to save face?

Scalzi and his contract are safe as long as PNH is there. When - not if - PNH gets the boot, Scalzi will be on borrowed time.

Anonymous VFM 360 December 30, 2015 9:23 AM  

This is the way of an SJW:
they lie and destroy
and say, "I have saved us all."

OpenID denektenorsk December 30, 2015 9:27 AM  

I'm very very very confused.

A few days Scalzi informed everyone that he doesn't give a fuck and showed us all an empty jar to prove it.

Then two days ago Scalzi was stating he was given extra time to tweak the novels he was working on by his publisher Tor. Note that they are one big happy family because he said "we" multiple times. I've dealt with publishers before and they love giving out encouraging words and hugs when you miss a deadline. True story.

Now he says he hasn't even started on it? Re-reading what he posted from Monday he did say "write/tweak" so silly me I thought the "tweak" part meant there was something written that needed to be tweaked. What he actually meant was he needs to "tweak" the blank page into a successful novel. Got it.

Finally, I just want to point out (again) that I'm confused... I thought he didn't care what people thought?

Needless to say if I was on the hook contract-wise to publish a book in 2016 then, I would do my damnest to deliver said book in 2016. I would not take on several side-distractions and then use them as an excuse as to why I failed to deliver. Given that there are 9 months of development time in 2016 before you'd have to start ramping up the marketing machine for Q4 we can deduce that a) the manuscript is rejected or b) it's nearly Q1 2016 and nothing has been written?

How much snow is there in Ohio now? Has cabin fever already set in? Perhaps if John spent less time ranting on the Internets proving that he doesn't care what people think then Tor would have a book to publish in 2016.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2015 9:35 AM  

At least he's back to Vox as The Unspeakable One. I know it's silly as hell but I missed it just the same.

Blogger Scuzzaman December 30, 2015 9:39 AM  

" ... the extra time it gives me to write/tweak the novels I’m currently working on."

That "currently working on" phrase sure gives me the impression of a little more than staring at the lawn picking one's nose.

But, you know, I'm not a writer.

Anonymous Miso Hawny December 30, 2015 9:40 AM  

@49 We have had literally no snow in Ohio yet this winter.

Anonymous Alsos December 30, 2015 10:02 AM  

"...WHICH CONSISTS APPARENTLY OF HAVING THE OCCASIONAL FEMALE CHARACTER WITH AGENCY"

Someone help me here - is there a formal name for this argumentative device? This self-serving misrepresentation of the other side's entire opposition, turning it into a humblebrag about how enlightened and progressive one is? If it doesn't have a name, it needs one.

Blogger The Sasquatch December 30, 2015 10:04 AM  

"ALL OF SCIENCE FICTION WILL FALL TO MY RUINATION WHICH CONSISTS APPARENTLY OF HAVING THE OCCASIONAL FEMALE CHARACTER WITH AGENCY" - McRapey

The ... occasional female character with agency? Excuse me? Occasional!?!??!!

Do women with agency only OCCASIONALLY exist in real life? And are they only granted said agency OCCASIONALLY ... likely in the time frames in which you decide they warrant it, Mr. McRapey?

Unbelievable!

Such sexism should not be tolerated, even by Occasionally and moderately successful authors such as McRapey. This is the 21st century, after all.

Blogger The Kurgan December 30, 2015 10:10 AM  

If I had to bet I would bet Scalzi lied. He emailed a file and so "technically" he didn't turn in a manuscript. But his file was read and found very wanting. That would be my bet.

Also, damn you Steve. We can't not click.

Blogger So Meh December 30, 2015 10:19 AM  

Keeping to his MO (frame?)...his rants are also derivative fan fiction hack jobs (Robot Chicken did it first). nothing new under the sun that cant be repackaged as his own. i christen thee McRapey McPoopy of the Ohio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMj9vCD2ko

Blogger Bard December 30, 2015 10:23 AM  

What is scalzi's minion number?

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2015 10:24 AM  

He must be getting a few calls from PNH to have been this "unconcerned." This elaborate and long winded display of non-nonchalance on his part couldn't possibly be indicative of a larger issue. Could it?

After all he has 12 years left on his 13 year contract.

Although I suspect PNH thought he was getting a slightly more reliable hack than this.

I can understand why he backs Scalzi. A publisher is just as often selling an author as much as the book. And Scalzi has a talent for fearless self promotion no denying it.

And Scalzi plays very well with today's TrueFen...For whatever reason.

(*Cataline shudders in disgust*)

Blogger Were-Puppy December 30, 2015 10:47 AM  

If he really want's to be controversial, he should make his next project a Pop Up book.

Anonymous rienzi December 30, 2015 10:49 AM  

Who talks like that? shitsickle, turd...seriously? He speaks like a 12 year old boy


Exactly. The troubling thing about this is that the guy is supposed to be a "WRITER". This is like paying $3M to a punter who can't kick the ball past the line of scrimmage.

For the amount of money they've shelled out to Scalzi, Tor should be seeing devastating put-downs worthy of Oscar Wilde.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 30, 2015 10:51 AM  

@14 Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery

Unless they completely rejected his manuscript and/or are bringing in a ghost writer to fix it.
--

Aren't ghosts white? That might send him into another epic hamster wheel destroying rant!

Blogger bub December 30, 2015 10:53 AM  

@59

for the children
(foreward by delaney)

Anonymous Leonidas December 30, 2015 10:54 AM  

Based on the two announcements and how everyone's dithering about it, my strong suspicion is that the second announcement is more accurate than the first (note that I didn't say just "accurate" - I think there's a bit of dissembling going on here, too).

I think that Cataline Sergius nailed it in yesterday's thread when he said the following:

I think PNH was really banking on Redshirts, (the basic cable show) to vault Scalzi up the chain to Jordan levels.

More to the point, though, I think Scalzi was also banking on this, and also banking on the huge advance they gave him, and got lazy and didn't do the actual work. His buddy PNH and his Hollywood contacts were probably all hitting him with they, "Hey, don't worry about it! It's happening!" routine, and he figured that between Hollywood royalties and the huge uptick in his book sales after the show came out and was a big success... well, Tor wouldn't exactly let him off free, but if those next few books were a little late? OK, no big deal, right? Because we're making so much off back sales...

Only Hollywood doesn't work like that. A show that's been green lit probably only has a 50% chance of actually seeing the light of day - at best. And even a show that's got a full first season filmed and in the can may never actually air. And even then, will it be a success?

I've seen this happen to too many people. It's a big part of the reason that I don't think I'd actually ever accept a large book advance - I'm afraid it would happen to me. Johnny didn't do his work, and his friends at Tor are covering for him as best they can.

Again, as Vox points out several times, this wouldn't be a big deal at all if he was on a more normal contract. It would be nothing if he was indie published and had other sources of income. But with a big name publisher having invested millions in him and now counting on him... it's a big deal. A very big deal.

Johnny got drafted from the SEC up to the NFL and he wasn't ready for the way the game shifted.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 30, 2015 11:01 AM  

@53 Alsos

"...WHICH CONSISTS APPARENTLY OF HAVING THE OCCASIONAL FEMALE CHARACTER WITH AGENCY"

Someone help me here - is there a formal name for this argumentative device? This self-serving misrepresentation of the other side's entire opposition, turning it into a humblebrag about how enlightened and progressive one is? If it doesn't have a name, it needs one.
---

Straw man wearing a dress being outbenched by a tween daughter?

Blogger luagha December 30, 2015 11:04 AM  

I'll mention that at least GRRM has better excuses. The last time we hashed over his incessant delays to the point of having his wildly successful television series diverge and head towards a different ending than his books, it was because he had actual other product in the pipeline actively coming out: ie, new Wild Cards books and anthologies.

I can't imagine why GRRM would be wasting his time with that low-margin-by-comparison, old-and-played-out stuff when he should be riding the big current project to completion. The obvious answers are multiple-irons-in-the-fire and encourage-new-authors. Still, his current project should set him for life and make his next big one a total goer, it's still a waste.

GRRM has motion by comparison.

OpenID RambleAround December 30, 2015 11:04 AM  

Scalzi will deny anything is wrong until the flames are so high that anyone can see them, and then he will blame Vox for it all. Funny shit

Blogger Culture War Draftee December 30, 2015 11:06 AM  

Scalzi needs to practice not caring. And perhaps also meeting deadlines.

Blogger pdwalker December 30, 2015 11:11 AM  

@33 Spartacus xxxx

Very nicely put.

VD: You should have been in show business as you seem to love to entertain.

Wait, wait... Johnny Con is just following your lead and putting off his novel to next year.

Anonymous GreyS December 30, 2015 11:12 AM  

Reading that, you realize why the guy either turned in a crappy manuscript or hasn't finished it yet. If your job is to write books-- then write f-ing books. Stop spinning your wheels and playing around on the internet. Reminds of that Damian Walter (?) who spent all his time on he internet while telling everyone how he could/would/is/is-about-to write a great SF book.

Scalzi will be on borrowed time.

Future Whatever blog post: "Why I've Decided To Become An Independent Author"

Blogger Ghost December 30, 2015 11:20 AM  

Wasn't he one of the people who threatened to quit the SFWA if you weren't expelled for your politics? If one person's politics can ruin a genre for you, etc, etc.

Anonymous Bz December 30, 2015 11:28 AM  

"haps if John spent less time ranting on the Internets proving that he doesn't care what people think then Tor would have a book to publish in 2016."

A book we can then boycot.

Anonymous Bz December 30, 2015 11:31 AM  

Speaking of female agency, I wonder if family Scalzi has yet heard the words "Thanks dad, I owe you a blowjob".

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 30, 2015 11:35 AM  

"This is like paying $3M to a punter who can't kick the ball past the line of scrimmage."

Sparkle Punter reference?

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 30, 2015 11:35 AM  

"This is like paying $3M to a punter who can't kick the ball past the line of scrimmage."

Sparkle Punter reference?

Blogger The Other Robot December 30, 2015 11:41 AM  

Speaking of female agency, I wonder if family Scalzi has yet heard the words "Thanks dad, I owe you a blowjob".

We have today's Internet Winner!

Anonymous karsten December 30, 2015 11:43 AM  

" Its not like Star Wars the crappy rip off of the original is not following a template."

Of course. In fact, the Scalzi summation pretty much IS the plot (as far as it can even be called a plot rather than a feminist harangue) of The Force Awakens:

"Scalzi has a great new book coming out in 2017. The big evil is Vahkks Gayder, and MarySue saves the galaxy by xerself, using the Snark."

That IS the JewJewAbrams film, neatly summarized.

Blogger DBSFF December 30, 2015 11:47 AM  

" It doesn’t have to be ruined, mind you, because chances are pretty good that within those thousands of works published annually, you’ll find something that rings your bell. And if you do, why should you care about the rest of it? It’s literally not your problem. Find the work you’ll love and then love it, and support the authors who make it, hopefully with money."

It's a little late for him to play the live-and-let-live game after years of launching unprovoked attacks on you---and anyone who disagreed with him. SJWs Always Lie.

I first found this site when you were pantsing him on his blog traffic lies and I initially could not believe he had waded into this without some sort of baiting.

Blogger The Other Robot December 30, 2015 12:03 PM  

Find the work you’ll love and then love it, and support the authors who make it, hopefully with money.

I do. I buy lots of the stuff CH puts out. I buy Kratman's stuff, and so on.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2015 12:08 PM  

@63. Leonidas

You'll notice even with all of his bloviation. Redshirts the Basic Cable show did NOT get mentioned.

Anonymous Jon Bromfield December 30, 2015 12:09 PM  

"Who talks like that? shitsickle, turd...seriously? He speaks like a 12 year old boy"

A 12-year-old boy who thinks that's how Bad Ass Marines talk.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 30, 2015 12:16 PM  

Scalzi is certainly consistent... he's a consistent bore in his self-appointed role as SJW spokesman. He can't ever allow himself to respond directly. Too masculine, I suppose. Instead he delivers triumphalist arrogance, packaged in a style intended to taunt and inflame. It's obvious he prides himself on a delivery that tries to pour salt in wounds he hopes he and his kind created in the first place. No doubt he practices endlessly instead of using the time to actually write a book.

Scalzi is quite laughable when you realize (1) he unwittingly exhibits effeminate, emasculated behavior, (2) it's a thinly disguised attempt to hide deep-seated insecurities he will never get rid of, and (3) it's an endless chain of lies, distortions, and self-deception.

Whatever the original comment to which he's responding, it must have really hit a nerve. His adolescent resentment and feelzbad are there for the world to see. Scalzi whines all the more by pretending not to, and it is very loud indeed.

Anonymous Scintan December 30, 2015 12:23 PM  

Why he so consistently feels the need to tee it up for Vox, and others, is something for his therapist to delve into.

Blogger Shimshon December 30, 2015 12:25 PM  

@80 Right you are. That snarky comment just earned you a blowjob!

Blogger Sean December 30, 2015 12:48 PM  

@53 Scalzi is unimaginative, derivative, boring, and never engages anyone outside of his own backyard. My goodness, he is the SEC of SF writers.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2015 1:37 PM  

The real temptation with Red Shirts is to write a book that shows Scalzi how it's done right.

A Red Shirts that is actually funny.

Blogger Geir Balderson December 30, 2015 1:38 PM  

This delusional freak ruins nothing for me. I partially read one of his derivative novels and now keep what is left of it in the outhouse. Its pages are softer to the bottom than the Sears Catalog.

Blogger grendel December 30, 2015 2:07 PM  

@57 all unwitting minions are #1

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau December 30, 2015 2:41 PM  

There is a Theory that George has so much money from the first three books and selling the TV rights that he has not written a single page of Winds of Winter nor A Dream of Spring. All the sample chapters floating around were just edited out of A feast for Crows and Dancing with Dragons for space. He will live off the currwent largess and HBO will finish the story.

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2015 3:03 PM  

It would be uncouth of me to compare my modest accomplishments to that of a Hugo-award winning author, and yet I yield to the temptation:

I have two or three more chapters of my latest novel to write, GREEN KNIGHT SQUIRE, first of a projected quartet called 'Moths and Cobwebs.'

My lovely yet merciless wife is mocking me because it is twice the length I promised Vox Day, but, then again, it is also twice as good as anything else I've written, as least in my nearsighted opinion. If any fans of mine read these words, please implore the Darkest Lord Vox to buy the manuscript nonetheless.

So I also plan to write NOWHITHER this summer. The first hundred pages or so are written, but I have to figure out how to mess up my hero's lovelife so he can get a little starch into his soul and do some maturing.

Also, IRON CHAMBER OF DREAMS, my one attempt to do a Charles Williams style metaphysical thriller, is sitting on the desk of Vox. We've picked the cover art.

And I think I have another anthology of short stories sitting on Vox Day's desk, and maybe a nonfiction manuscript as well, which I am hoping he will publish out of pity.

And I have two other novels, VINDICATION OF MAN and COUNT TO INFINITY, the culmination of my Eschaton Sequence (cough, cough, Olaf Stapledon ripoff) sitting on the desk of Marco Palmeiri, my editor at Tor books. (Who, unlike Mr. Hayden, has never given me any grief at all, or told me my fans and my work was unwanted.)

So I am in the opposite situation from Mr. Scalzi. I have too many books coming out.

And I am still not making enough to quit my day job. I have no one to blame for that but myself.

Blogger VD December 30, 2015 3:44 PM  

If any fans of mine read these words, please implore the Darkest Lord Vox to buy the manuscript nonetheless.

Ah, John, I already did....

Blogger James Dixon December 30, 2015 3:53 PM  

> Someone help me here - is there a formal name for this argumentative device?

Strawman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

> What is scalzi's minion number?

#1, of course: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/04/they-also-serve.html

Blogger James Dixon December 30, 2015 3:57 PM  

> Ah, John, I already did....

>> And I am still not making enough to quit my day job. I have no one to blame for that but myself.

Obviously you didn't pay him enough or the check hasn't cleared yet. :)

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 30, 2015 3:58 PM  

Clearly Jonny Con ("Scatzi"?) has the dirt on PNH (cf. "Safe Room")

Blogger the bandit December 30, 2015 3:59 PM  

"SJWs always lie, and it looks much better to have not written a first draft that got sent back for major rework, so who knows?" quoted from 40 but @63

This is what I find most amusing about this situation. I suppose having produced a dud is arguably worse than having produced nothing, but not by much. I'm quite disappointed with myself for coming nowhere near my personal writing goals this last year. I would have much rather produced a dud and learned from it (either how to stop producing duds or just to get real and move on to something else).

Well, enough blog-comment bloviating for me. Time to learn from last year's mistake.

Blogger James Dixon December 30, 2015 4:06 PM  

> I'm quite disappointed with myself for coming nowhere near my personal writing goals this last year.

Speaking of such, anyone who has Kindle Unlimited and wishes to possibly waste some time (I'm biased and not a good judge): http://www.amazon.com/Just-Amber-Meredith-Minter-Dixon-ebook/dp/B019Y4N4PK/

Vox, feel free to delete this if you feel it's inappropriate.

Blogger grendel December 30, 2015 4:08 PM  

John C Wright, would it help if we crowdfunded you a book tour?

Blogger Elocutioner December 30, 2015 4:11 PM  

@93 Rabbit - "Scatzi" - Bravo. Perhaps that large lawn is really just a leach field...

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2015 4:20 PM  

@90
"Ah, John, I already did...."

You bought LAMENT OF PROMETHEUS? Or were you talking about the anthology AEONS NEAR AND FAR?

That is why I am married. Someone in the house has to keep track of the paychecks.

This is why I do not believe in IQ tests. My word-use, problem-solving, geometry, spatial relations, and logic puzzle solving skills are about 140 on the standard scale, but my skills for remembering my children's name, my house address, my phone number, bookkeeping, identifying the year I live in, dressing myself, doing simple arithmetic, and navigating in a motor carriage from point a to point b are ranked slightly below the sub moronic level.

Now, there are two possible theories for this: first, I am a genius, and geniuses are actually idiots. This theory involves an obvious paradox. Second, IQ tests measure a certain group of intellectual skills and habits having nothing in particular to do with each other, and fail to measure other intellectual skills and habits no less useful, and no less a sign of intelligence.

What intelligence really is, like athletic ability or physical beauty, is a summation of a number of related factors with no common denominator. Some people are 'naturally intelligent' in the same way some people are 'naturally athletic' but that does not mean a good tennis player is good at track and field, horsemanship, or fencing.

Likewise here: me saying my IQ is high, or average, or low, is simply misleading, unless I specify which thing (geometry, art, rhetoric, logic vs. mathematics, remembering where I am, using a payphone) I am attempting to use my so-called intelligence to do.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2015 4:21 PM  

@John C. Wright

but I have to figure out how to mess up my hero's lovelife so he can get a little starch into his soul and do some maturing.

I am quite hesitant to offer you my advice on this matter.


So I won't.

You already know the most obvious and classical ones.

I'm hoping it won't be all Ilya's fault but I can live with that if it is.

I am looking forward to seeing what you do to the poor, poor boy.

Blogger Scuzzaman December 30, 2015 4:48 PM  

@99

Logically, if he needs to do some maturing then it is going to be partly his own fault ...

I think I trust Mr Wright's judgement sufficiently that it will be a shared blunder.

Blogger Kallmunz December 30, 2015 5:15 PM  

The truth is Vox realizes that Scalzi has nothing and is pushing TOR to pour more money down that rat hole. Wheels with wheels my friends, wheels within wheels.

Blogger Thucydides December 30, 2015 5:55 PM  

@9

SJW's make the Scalzi trains run on time...(heh)

Blogger SteelPalm December 30, 2015 6:52 PM  

Scalzi wrote: "or if the presence in the genre of people whose politics and positions you don’t like ruins the genre for you"

SJWs always project.

Anonymous DaveG December 30, 2015 8:26 PM  

John, would you mind clarifying a couple of points? I’m a bit confused.

You write, “Tor has decided to wait until 2017 to release the next new one.” The verb ‘wait’ implies that Tor had in fact scheduled a new John Scalzi novel for publication in 2016, but subsequently decided to delay that release for a year, does it not? Otherwise you would have said something like, ‘the new novel’s not coming out ’til 2017, because that’s when it’s contracted to appear.’

Certainly the two manuscripts you are currently working on could not have been scheduled for publication in 2016. Indeed, Tor cannot have decide to “wait” to release them: if one or both is to be completed in 2016, publishing schedules dictate that it (they) could only come out in 2017 at the earliest.

Therefore, the “new one” which Tor has decided to wait until 2017 to release must, by definition, be a novel which has already been submitted, in whole or in part.

To explain the delay, you say that, “Among other things,” Tor wanted to “make sure we debut this next novel, the first in the new contract, just right.” So, two final questions. What are the “other things” which contributed to Tor’s decision. And, what do the words “make sure we debut this next novel … just right” mean, exactly.

Do they mean that Tor wanted to ensure that all of the appropriate sales and marketing strategies, scheduled promotional events, cover art etc etc are correct and in place, which processes would already have been in place and to industry standards for a 2016 release?

Or do they mean that Tor wanted to ensure the ‘debut’ novel itself is just right, in an editorial sense? Indeed, you write that you “don’t mind the extra time it gives me to write/tweak the novels I’m currently working on.” Because as a writer, my experience is that you write the novels you are writing and you tweak the novels you have already written.

I hope you don’t mind answering these questions. From my reading of Whatever, it seems that you are perfectly happy to share—within reason of course—much of the detail of your publishing practices.

But in this instance, the information shared is to some degree unclear, specifically when you append the statement “I haven’t turned in a manuscript; there’s no manuscript to turn in.” Depending on the answers to the above questions, that means either:

1.) there was never any novel scheduled for publication by Tor in 2016, and hence your statement in paragraph three was either wrong, incorrectly worded, or unnecessary, (and in fact all three) or

2.) you did turn in a manuscript, contra to the above statement, and its scheduled 2016 publication date was subsequently deferred until 2017.

Thanks for your time, and Happy New Year!

Anonymous DaveG December 30, 2015 8:29 PM  

D'oh! First time ever commenting at VP and I screw it up. Preamble to the above comment should read:

Posted at Scalzi's blog. Hope his answers can clarify the situation.

Also, Happy New Year!

Blogger VFM #7359 December 30, 2015 9:38 PM  

There is no known cure for Sarkeesian's Syndrome. Please give to help us find one.

Blogger VFM #7359 December 30, 2015 9:44 PM  

@4 BestOfOutrageCulture sure looks a lot like a SRS/SA goon/Ghazi/Weird Twitter sub.

Blogger VFM #7359 December 30, 2015 10:08 PM  

@85 Forget Redshirt.

PAs.

INT. DESILU STUDIOS COMMISSARY - DAY

BOB, a PA for the Star Trek series, walks toward his coworker ALICE carrying a tray. He places the tray on the table and sits across from her.

BOB

Hey, do you want my sandwich? Walked on Shatner and Nimoy again... do you know what fetching is? No, wait, then you won'the want lunch either."

ALICE

Yes, spare me. I knew about Brando and Newman BUT THOSE two?

BOB

I think Takei talked them into it. That nipper sets of my gaydar.

Anonymous DaveG December 31, 2015 12:29 AM  

Scalzi responded to my questions, by which I mean he refused to actually answer them. I think we can safely say that the contracted novel for 2016 was pulled, for whatever reason.

Anonymous VFM #0189 December 31, 2015 1:02 AM  

Lawn John Scalzi's got whisky in the jar-o.

Blogger pdwalker December 31, 2015 2:37 AM  

@89 JW And I am still not making enough to quit my day job. I have no one to blame for that but myself.

Another author wrote something along the lines of "keep writing, build up a following and build up a backlist". Ah yes, this is the one, I believe.

I don't think it'll be too many years before you can make this your full time job, especially if you keep producing the winners you've been writing, in my opinion.

Personally, I hope so.

Blogger sapopular December 31, 2015 9:05 AM  

"Scalzi has a great new book coming out in 2017. The big evil is Vahkks Gayder, and MaryJon saves the galaxy by xerself, using the Snark".


Obi Wan Gammobi:

"Well, the Snark is what gives a Diversi-di xer/xis power. It's an energy field created by all Multi-culti living things. It surrounds us and amases us; it binds the gammalaxy together."

“Use the Snark, MaryJon.”

Anonymous Jon Bromfield December 31, 2015 11:14 AM  

DaveG, Mr. Scalzi has indeed answered your questions. Thanks for asking them.

Anonymous Bastiat December 31, 2015 7:43 PM  

More importantly: how are there books & compilations by Mr. Wright that have been finished that I cannot acquire?

C'mon VD, at least TOR has the excuse that they might be waiting for the boycott to be over before releasing his finale.

(unless you are spacing them out for your culture shock books, and/or Mr. Wright's absent-mindedness due to his awesome work-habits has stalled things legalistically...)

But yeah. Instead of me buying a work by Mr. Wright unseen, then Kindle lending it to my father: I plan on buying two copies of any of Mr. Wrights works unseen and gifting one to my father.

Blogger Feather Blade January 01, 2016 9:25 PM  

@ 101 I have to figure out how to mess up my hero's lovelife so he can get a little starch into his soul and do some maturing.

Kidnapping or apparently killing Lady Greystoke always seemed to work for Burroughs, and without giving either party an excuse to bring up old quarrels when they were in their cups.

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