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Sunday, December 06, 2015

Week 13

Since the Vikings are unlikely to be handed a W by the officials, they'll just have to go out and earn their one-game advantage in the NFC North. Fortunately, this game against Seattle looks considerably more winnable than it did at the beginning of the year.

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Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 06, 2015 11:59 AM  

Viking vintage 2015 the year of sour grapes. The mighty Pack wins their games pure skill, even if their starting back is hungover, overweight and on the bench and the WRs couldn't be open to save themselves

OpenID Hungarian Thurston December 06, 2015 12:30 PM  

I'm sorry to digress, but will Cuckservative be published in print in time for Christmas?

Blogger Cinco December 06, 2015 12:31 PM  

The mighty Pack needed a 65 yard Hail Mary last week to win, teams with skill don't need to pray to beat the Lions...

Go Bears!

Blogger VD December 06, 2015 12:32 PM  

I'm sorry to digress, but will Cuckservative be published in print in time for Christmas?

No, definitely not. Stick with SJWAL for your Christmas gift needs.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 06, 2015 12:45 PM  

I'm not sure the Packers would have had positive total yardage in the first half against Detroit if not for two ridiculous defensive pass interference calls. I'm getting so tired of those -- QB heaves the ball up short, the defender turns while running to look for it, the receiver slows down so the defender bumps into him, and it's DPI. The TV "rules expert" tried to justify the first one, but the second one was so phantom they didn't even ask him to try.

It's probably the play where the refs have the hardest time seeing everything they need to see -- the ball being caught and brought under control, the feet coming down if they're near the sideline, the hands on each other, any body contact -- and yet it's one thing they won't review. Dumb. And it's such a big, game-shifting call, since it can turn what should have been a 4th-and-long into a 1st-and-10 halfway down the field.

If you have a big 3rd-and-long play, don't overthink it: just heave it up and give the receiver -- preferably a star receiver against a no-name DB -- time to get tangled up and draw the flag.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 06, 2015 12:51 PM  

Refs made up for that in the second half, still the Packers were the better team by a hair as they were against the Vikings and a hair short against the Bears. Three teams vying for a shot at being high mediocre

Anonymous G.Veil December 06, 2015 1:10 PM  

Rawls with the early turnover and Vikings have ball, but how do you get that wrong as a ref initially? That's as blatant a fumble as you'll see

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 1:12 PM  

It's official. The officiating has been awful across the board this season. Didn't Goodell say he's setting up a blue ribbon bipartisan commission to write a report about it; wait, that was some idiot politician. But seriously, Goodell said something about the NFL is doing everything possible to repair their image, I mean, correct the problem.

Anonymous YIH December 06, 2015 1:13 PM  

At the beginning of the season, I figured ''well, OK, the Vikes, with on the legs of All Day and some luck, might snag a wild card spot''.
Didn't expect the Pack to puke, nor did I expect the Lions to collapse (except for Turkey Day).
I expected the Redskins to well out of the playoff picture. I was wrong there too. Looks like with the way the divisions as set up there's going to be one that is garbage, last year it was the NFC south, this year the NFC (l)east.

Anonymous rienzi December 06, 2015 1:14 PM  

One of the problems with playing at Lambeau, is that the officials almost always wear their home jerseys, the ones with the green and gold stripes. It takes a herculean effort to overcome this, and come away with a road win. Have seen this for years and years and years.

Massive kudos to the Bears and Lions for doing so this year.

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 1:17 PM  

Dude, everyone over-estimated the NFL Least, there were more than a couple national sports jokers that picked the eagles to go to the SB.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 1:25 PM  

Rawls with the early turnover and Vikings have ball, but how do you get that wrong as a ref initially? That's as blatant a fumble as you'll see

Refs have been bad a long time, but this year they really seem to be outdoing themselves. Missing easy calls, forgetting the rules, not to mention the number of games that've been decided by the refs this year.

And Go Rawls.

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 1:30 PM  

Wilson's game has gotten a lot better this season, and the best thing to happen to Seattle might be Lynch getting injured.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 1:32 PM  

I'm getting so tired of those... DPI...It's probably the play where the refs have the hardest time seeing everything they need to see

Completely agree. It's never going to be a call that gets made consistently the same way every time, it's just the nature of the play. So they really ought to reduce the yardage so it's not so much of a crapshoot for teams. It really sucks to see a great defensive stop obliterated by a DPI call.

Offensive holding is the same thing on the other side of the ball. It gets called way too inconsistently to be a 10 yard drive-killing penalty.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 1:39 PM  

the best thing to happen to Seattle might be Lynch getting injured.

I think Lynch has been injured all season. He didn't look right most of the year. Rawls has been a really nice consolation prize to having our feature back go down though. I think the league, with their emphasis on passing, has it wrong. A great run is way more entertaining that a pass.

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 1:41 PM  

I agree, Jack. Lynch hasn't been his usual dominant self. I hope that's not indicative of the rest of his career, but Rawls is definitely making a name for himself.

Anonymous WillBest December 06, 2015 1:49 PM  

Refs have been bad a long time, but this year they really seem to be outdoing themselves. Missing easy calls, forgetting the rules, not to mention the number of games that've been decided by the refs this year.

Probably because they are too busy looking to the player safety aspects that they are missing the game play aspects. They should add a couple more refs if that is the case.

Anyway... Packers got that win this week in part Zebra (phantom facemask on a runner who happened to be Rodgers so Rodgers Rules applied) and complete DC F up defending the sidelines and not having the hands teams on the field, rushing only 3.

Bears should have an easier time this week, though Cutler is doing them favors. That bubble screen has almost the Bears twice before this season and it was finally picked off for 6. Hope it goes into the trash bin.

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 1:55 PM  

Seattle has been tackling really well today. They have Peterson completely shut down so far.

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 2:06 PM  

Of course, the best way to stop Peterson is to keep the Minnesota offense off the field.

Anonymous Red December 06, 2015 2:06 PM  

Ref quality is down because they fired all the old white refs and replaced them with blacks.

Anonymous G.Veil December 06, 2015 2:07 PM  

Why do they keep saying that throw was beautiful, Wilson nearly got his WR decapitated. It's a great catch, but that throw was dangerous.

As I'm typing ridiculous unnecessary roughness penalty costs the Vikings again, seems like the refs are determined to ensure that the Pack wins the North

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 2:12 PM  

That was a terrible "unnecessary roughness" call. Just awful.

...that said, way to go, Wilson, for capitalizing on it!

Anonymous YIH December 06, 2015 2:18 PM  

Call me naive, but IMHO, I think the refs in the NFL are generally 'clean'.
The NFL does try to keep them that way.
They are human, complete with 'human error'.
The NFL has incentives for the refs to do the best they can. For one thing, they make a nice wage. Better than you, better than some of the players.
Another reason is they are 'graded' throughout the season. They have to 'make the grade' to get to the playoffs - just like the players.
Also, the fans won't accept 'fixed games', Vince McMahon provedpeople won't accept pro football that even has the appearance of being 'fixed'.
Yes, they fuck up, but they deserve 'the benefit of the doubt'.
Sorry Vox, if they lose, it's because the QB can't take the pressure off All Day, not because the 'the fix is in'.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 2:26 PM  

Call me naive, but IMHO, I think the refs in the NFL are generally 'clean'.

Oh, I agree. I don't think they intentionally try to throw games one way or another (though I do think they favor star QBs a little more with flags). But the league just has them throwing so many flags, they influence a lot of games with bad calls.

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 2:28 PM  

Vikings were overrated to start the season, and are coming back to earth. Seahawks had some early struggles, yet still came three 4th quarter comebacks away from beating some very good teams, and are hitting on all cylinders now.

Blogger Daniel December 06, 2015 2:53 PM  

NFL has too many rules.

Vikings are done this year. Teddy can't make decisions fast enough yet, and apparently their defense practices in an ambulance.

Anonymous Micah December 06, 2015 2:56 PM  

The Vikings stink....how could you possibly blame anything on officiating after their façade has been peeled back today?

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 3:06 PM  

These flags are ridiculous.

Anonymous YIH December 06, 2015 3:06 PM  

@24. Jack Amok:
You see my point. You can argue that the refs try to protect star QBs.
If fact, the NFL should attempt to protect their 'stars' as best they can.
Protect the moneymakers, DUH!
OK, I'm gonna say it, do you think the Panthers will 'runthe table'?
Me, I don't think so. Like the Patriots (who had their own reasons to get a loss out of the way)

Anonymous Micah December 06, 2015 3:11 PM  

Now Fox has given the Vikings the finger with 4:00 left in 3rd quarter. This is choice is it not?

Anonymous YIH December 06, 2015 3:14 PM  

BTW, I just hope the 50th Super Bowl isn't cat_toast.gif ;)

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 3:14 PM  

Wilson TD called back for holding. No problem, throw it to Baldwin instead. What a fun game to watch, despite the silly flags.

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 3:18 PM  

3 passing TDs 17 for 21...Who was it that said that Wilson wasn't an elite QB?

Anonymous YIH December 06, 2015 3:25 PM  

Looks like a test for the [insert city here] Jaguars vs. the Titans. And they seem to be passing it.

Anonymous Micah December 06, 2015 3:27 PM  

Maybe VD thought they were playing the Saints today. What verbiage did he use, "winnable"? That's comedy at it's finest right there.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 3:28 PM  

The Hawks have had a 4th Quarter lead in every game this season, and I believe they are now at 60 games in a row where they've had a lead at some point.

Anonymous G.Veil December 06, 2015 3:35 PM  

@Ken

And..... what's your point? He's had a nice day playing against a Vikings defense missing 3 of it's best defenders in Smith, Barr, and Joseph. How did he perform against the Cardinals or Panthers or Bengals. If not for this recent three game hot streak against the 49ers, Steelers, and Vikings he'd only have one multi TD passing game all season and that was week 2 vs the Packers. Seriously through 9 weeks of the season he had 10 passing TDs and 7 INTs, those are not elite numbers. He's played at an "elite" level for 3 weeks, that doesn't make him an elite QB

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 3:44 PM  

Tarvaris Jackson on the field in Minnesota. Perfect.

Blogger Brian December 06, 2015 4:00 PM  

It looked like the Bears defenders backed off of Gabbart on that run. That's what happens when you make teams afraid to touch the quarterback.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 06, 2015 4:04 PM  

Barely a fraction of holdings on Texans by nonTexans get flagged.

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 4:05 PM  

@G.Veil

In Wilson's 4 years, his QB rating has been an average of 10 points higher than Brady's numbers in his first 4 years. His completion percentage is as good or better than Brady, been in 2 Super Bowls in his first 3 years...the kid knows what he's doing. 11-0 TD-INT in the last 3 games (not counting TDs he ran in).

If Brady is being regarded as the best QB in history, Wilson is on his way to challenge Brady's numbers.

Blogger YIH December 06, 2015 4:10 PM  

One of the rare times the Giants/Jets are playing.
So far, tied.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 06, 2015 4:16 PM  

Russell Wilson's refs

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 4:17 PM  

"Wilson is on his way to challenge Brady's numbers"

Bwahahahahaha

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 4:27 PM  

Giants choke again to the J e t s, Jets, Jets, Jets.

Anonymous WillBest December 06, 2015 4:29 PM  

Seattle fans need to stop drinking the koolaid on Wilson. Bears just ended their season. Or rather their kicker ended it for them. Unbelievable. Good as Gould hasn't been money in 2 years. That is now the 4th game he has cost the Bears in the last 32.

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 4:37 PM  

@WillBest
Explain to me your reasoning. I of course have a bit of prejudice for the guy, but I gave the numbers for his 4 years thus far and am convinced that he'll only get better as he matures. I am willing to hear why you (and Dave, et al) regard him as inferior, however.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 4:49 PM  

Is there a female ref working the Pats game?

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 4:52 PM  

Really? Wilson challenge Brady's numbers? Come back and see me when Wilson's getting close to 60k yards and 400 TDs. Wilson's a good QB, I'm a fan, but let's give him a few more years before comparing him to probably the best QB the NFL has seen.

Anonymous G.Veil December 06, 2015 4:53 PM  

@Ken

You're changing the argument, this is not about what Wilson can or will do. Your starting premise was that Wilson is an elite quarterback and the truth is that his total body of work simply does not equate to that level. Now in fairness to yourself we may simply disagree on what the word elite means, I may have higher or perhaps different standards than yourself. However, elite, as I see it, is the top 5 NFL quarterbacks in the league. So the question becomes do his numbers and consistent performance warrant that label and the answer for me is no. That's a personal belief and one backed by the statistics and his rather inconsistent performance that is too often buffered by a strong ground attack and defense. That's not a knock on Wilson it's a fact, he is not often required to shoulder the burden of his team. An excellent example is that Pittsburgh game, because the reaction was one of shock both by his exceptional performance as much as by the poor play of the defense. The roles were reversed in a way that is the exception not the rule for his career. Your Brady comparison for the early years of their career are somewhat valid, but the majority of people didn't think of him as "elite" many on this blog would pejoratively refer to him as a game manager at best and that's what Wilson at this stage of his career is. A three game stretch hasn't disabused me of that notion.

Blogger Ken December 06, 2015 4:59 PM  

@ G.Veil
Ok, I can appreciate that. You're right, I was too quick in using the word "elite." In a few years, he might be up to your definition, he might not.

In all honesty, I was too elated by a victory that I did not expect, and the fact that Wilson seems to be a "Good Guy" off the field tends to bolster my fanatic tendencies.

You provided a good argument to my assertion and I yield that I was in error.

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 5:04 PM  

"Is there a female ref working the Pats game?"

Must be a trans-trans. The NBA has a female ref(s) don't believe the NFL does. A big deal was made of a female position coach pre-season, Arizona?

Anonymous WillBest December 06, 2015 5:21 PM  

Good guy? Did his first wife have an affair? Fraudulently induce him into marriage? Or did he just realize there was so much ass being thrown at him that perhaps he made a mistake and dumped her before he got his big contract and accrued any time in which to provide her with a property settlement?

As for Wilson. Its way too early. The D up until this year has been doing all the heavy lifting. And he hasn't exactly been consistent rising to the occasion, especially on the road. He has also lost some pretty key games for them and really should have lost them the NFCC last year but the Packers apparently wanted to win even less than the Seahawks.

Anyway, Brady suffered the same problem back then too. Pats D was pretty stout and he wasn't asked to do a whole lot. Its what he has done when they put it on him, that has been what separates Brady from the rest of QBs playing today.

Blogger Dave December 06, 2015 6:37 PM  

Mighty Mouse to the house - Sproles chalks up another punt return TD.

Belichek might have really screwed himself with that on-sides kick attempt.

Jack you're right, there is a female ref named Sarah. Chip Kelly was screaming at her not to be intimidated.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 06, 2015 8:14 PM  

Probably because they are too busy looking to the player safety aspects that they are missing the game play aspects.

Yeah, there was a silly roughing the passer call in the KC/Oakland game today. When a QB throws the ball, where does it come from? Right past his head, right? So you're pushing and shoving and spinning, trying to get through a block, and you see the QB winding up, so you reach out and lunge toward him just a second too late, and instead of getting the ball you swipe his helmet with your fingers.

And now that's a 15-yard, automatic first down. It's ridiculous.

I don't think they're generally corrupt either. They're just trying to enforce rules that are increasingly nitpicky and complex, and they've also become hesitant because they're counting on replay to catch things anyway.

Blogger ray December 06, 2015 8:35 PM  

Blaine Gabbert! Brodie, Montana, Young . . . Gabby Gabbert! I knew it all along and predicted it here, from his debut. That post got lost in transmission somewhere but that's ok.

The unstoppable Blaine 'De Plane!" Gabbert. It is destiny.

Blogger Ragin' Dave December 06, 2015 10:09 PM  

I do think that Lynch getting injured was a boon to the Seahawks. Sad, since Lynch was a big part of getting to two Super Bowls, but running backs age quickly.

Wilson isn't elite yet. Getting there, but not yet.

Someone must have given the Seahawks D some viagra, because they finally stiffened up. Four games ago, Peterson would have ran through them like tissue paper.

OpenID Jack Amok December 06, 2015 10:14 PM  

Regarding "player safety" rules, the "hit to a defenseless receiver" against Tyler Lockett in the Min-Sea game... I guess by the literal definition of the rule that's a penalty, but what else is the defender supposed to do?

Blogger Rambam December 07, 2015 1:11 AM  

Only in the most mediocre year of NFL football ever could the Carolina Panthers be undefeated.
12-0. Coldplay at Super Bowl halftime is just salt in the wound.


Anonymous Something I saw December 07, 2015 6:44 AM  

@59 Only in the most mediocre year of NFL football ever could the Carolina Panthers be undefeated.

Don't worry. Newton gave a preview of how he will be taken out in the playoffs. He will be doing his lollygagger showboat moves and someone will take his head off.

The offending team will happily pay the fine.

Blogger bob k. mando December 07, 2015 10:21 AM  

Minnesota.

so depressing that after 48 years on this mortal coil, Scott Weiland couldn't take any more when he went to Minneapolis.


and what in the hell is going on in Pittsburgh? four games in a row over 460 yards of offense? tying the NFL record for consecutive +450 yard games?

too many franchises have stretched the coaching and defense ranks too thin.

Blogger ray December 07, 2015 10:15 PM  

"Coldplay at Super Bowl halftime is just salt in the wound"


Morton Salt. Once upon the west.

Tonight along the Beltway they can't get internal com to work at FedEx. Who could have imagined?

Anonymous Anonymous Cowherd December 08, 2015 10:59 AM  

too many franchises have stretched the coaching and defense ranks too thin.

And officials. Witten's Offensive Passs Interference was textbook and completely different to what Gronk was called on against Denver.

Blogger Brad Andrews December 08, 2015 11:36 AM  

Why the claim that Dallas should not have scored so quickly at the end? Shouldn't you expect your defense to keep the other team from going the whole field in 1:26 when they have been unable to do so the whole game? I understand you would prefer less time on the clock, but not scoring in such a case seems idiotic. Washington couldn't get a touchdown all night until they only had a minute and a half left?

Comedy of errors game of the week.

The Witten penalty seemed quite odd. Almost like they are playing Calvinball.

Blogger Brad Andrews December 08, 2015 11:36 AM  

Why the claim that Dallas should not have scored so quickly at the end? Shouldn't you expect your defense to keep the other team from going the whole field in 1:26 when they have been unable to do so the whole game? I understand you would prefer less time on the clock, but not scoring in such a case seems idiotic. Washington couldn't get a touchdown all night until they only had a minute and a half left?

Comedy of errors game of the week.

The Witten penalty seemed quite odd. Almost like they are playing Calvinball.

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