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Tuesday, January 19, 2016

A mysterious change


The most interesting thing is the way that the massive global pro-immigration media blitz of last summer, complete with PICTURES OF DEAD CHILDREN only managed to reduce the German anti-immigration position by three percentage points. Clearly the clueless moderates are more susceptible, as support for immigration briefly jumped six points. Of course, you should never put much credence in polls.
We don’t need to speculate about whether pollsters manipulated their findings, because the pollsters have admitted it themselves. Survation announced the morning after the result that they had decided not to publish their own “final” poll of the campaign because – in the words of company CEO Damian Lyons Lowe – “the results seemed so “out of line” with all the polling conducted by ourselves and our peers – what poll commentators would term an “outlier” – that I “chickened out” of publishing the figures.

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35 Comments:

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 8:50 AM  

Eventually all but the most manipulable realize that someone is trying to work them like sock puppets and resent the arm stuffed up their butts.

Blogger The Other Robot January 19, 2016 9:02 AM  

And the most important part of the article that the graph seems to have come from is this:

62% of Germans now say the number of asylum seekers is too high, up from 53% in November – driven mainly by the hardening attitudes of women

Blogger El Borak January 19, 2016 9:09 AM  

OT: VD, I don't know if you saw this, but YouTube has auto-generated a channel just for - or rather about - you: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqt0TkLwNyXy_Eiofb3r3A

All the dancing elves one can handle all in one place.

Blogger El Borak January 19, 2016 9:09 AM  

Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqt0TkLwNyXy_Eiofb3r3A

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau January 19, 2016 9:17 AM  

Just wait til Kindermort pictures are published of little Hans or Gretchen murdered by 'immigrants' and tossed in the dumpster.

Blogger Jourdan January 19, 2016 9:20 AM  

Of course, you should never put much credence in polls.

....Particularly British ones, and of those, particularly YouGov.

Though, there is no doubt from the many hundreds of press reports that attitudes in Germany are moving our way.

Even so, it is still necessary to remember that Chancellor Merkel still enjoys the support of a solid one-half of Germans, while President Obama still enjoys the support of an equally solid one-half of Americans. Things are moving our way, no doubt though.

Blogger Escoffier January 19, 2016 9:28 AM  

reminds me a bit of this...

http://cis.org/articles/2002/back1402.html

When I wrote about illegal immigration a million years ago I definitely noticed one of the ploys the elites would employ was the 'all good people' support policy position X and then you would see the cascade preference effect in places like the Hot Air comments section. It was kind of sickening actually.

Blogger Dexter January 19, 2016 9:31 AM  

Eh, "are there too many orcs here or not?" is all very well, but what are the figures on "do you want the government to deport the orcs by force today?"

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 19, 2016 9:40 AM  

PICTURES OF DEAD CHILDREN EXCAVATED AND POSED PERFECTLY ON THE BEACH TO EVOKE GREATER SYMPATHY

FTFY

Anonymous Soga January 19, 2016 10:03 AM  

@9 "PICTURES OF DEAD CHILDREN EXCAVATED AND POSED PERFECTLY ON THE BEACH TO EVOKE GREATER SYMPATHY"

For these not in the know, this isn't sarcasm. This actually happened.

Anonymous WillBest January 19, 2016 10:03 AM  

The takeaway for me is that 38% either want the same or more immigration. I shudder to think what would be required to convince those people it would be a good idea to limit immigration.

Blogger Escoffier January 19, 2016 10:22 AM  

#11

Nothing could.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar January 19, 2016 10:56 AM  

You know, the enemy is even dumber now than when they lost to Hitler. How did this happen? Are they getting their daily allowance of Lead?
Its kind of amazing that feminists are now supporting rapists to prevent nationalism. This NWO jumped the shark and got eaten by other sharks. Charity for strangers turned out to be a hard sell for people that are broke and starving. I think even Mr. Magoo could have seen that coming.
If only these chickenshit cowards could convince White people to kill themselves so that dumb retards could be slaves for Satan. Why do people cling to morality and life? Its a mystery that drug users and people with no self control cannot figure out. Is it stupidity or insanity?
Well its still Evil either way, lets kill it and call it paradise. If you like Utopia you can have a bullet in the back of the head, and press 2 for extinction.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 10:56 AM  

I shudder to think what would be required to convince those people it would be a good idea to limit immigration.

As noted by John Wright, these are the people addicted to a false sense of moral superiority.

Since this is behavior described by the addiction model, there is nothing outside of them that can change their beliefs/rationalizations/actions.

Only if and when the Narrative occupying the moral high ground changes might their attitudes change. Up until about 100 years ago poverty was largely a condition people believed was earned. Pity was measured and charity delimited.

Today there is a renaissance of understanding that the dole is a trap and institutionalized "charity" (AKA welfare) a disaster. Maybe the Narrative is changing (finally.)

Don't expect self-preservation to affect them one bit. Look at heroin addicts, meth heads and crack whores.

Anonymous Hrw-500 January 19, 2016 11:01 AM  

Speaking of the dead children, Charlie-Hebdo did recently an editorial toon about what if that kid in question had grown up. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/charlie-hebdo-cartoon-alan-kurdi-1.3404798

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 19, 2016 11:08 AM  

The news is being identified as propaganda explicitly

OpenID denektenorsk January 19, 2016 11:10 AM  

62% of Germans now say the number of asylum seekers is too high, up from 53% in November – driven mainly by the hardening attitudes of women

Having your bottom randomly grabbed while walking down the street tends to do that to the ladies I'm told. Any guess as to who will have to clean up the mess?

Anonymous Soga January 19, 2016 11:12 AM  

@15

Some gems in the comments (now closed, shocking and shocking, I know).

"The far right literally thinks all Muslims are rapists."

So kind of these leftists to tell us how we think.

OpenID genericviews January 19, 2016 11:21 AM  

Definitely more. I suggest the Germans take All of them. Including those that are already in other Euro-zone countries. As an exchange, the other countries should accept an equal number of German refugees. What could go wrong?

OpenID denektenorsk January 19, 2016 11:28 AM  

Some gems in the comments (now closed, shocking and shocking, I know).

What is lost on many of the commenters is the fact that Charlie Hebdo is FAR LEFT and that the culture in France might be different than their own. One of the killed cartoonists was a proud communist (despite all of the evidence that communism doesn't work - unless you consider North Korea or Cuba a success story).

No one gets their panties in a knot when they insult Jews, Christians or the Pope... nope that's resevered for the "Race of Islam" (sic) because apparently people cannot tell a religion from an ethnic group.

Blogger Dexter January 19, 2016 11:53 AM  

"The far right literally thinks all Muslims are rapists."

And? Yeah? So what?

What is the acceptable level of rapists, if it is more than 0% but less than 100%? Do tell.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 19, 2016 12:02 PM  

Thinking long game, how does one keep the orcs out permanently once they are removed? Short of "eternally-manned machine gun walls", I've got nothing. How does one CLOSE the dark Portal?

Blogger Dexter January 19, 2016 12:04 PM  

I want to detest the orcs, but this kind of story makes it more difficult... Germany needs more of this kind of multi-cultural goodness...

http://www.jpost.com/International/North-African-men-attempt-to-stone-transgender-women-in-German-city-441695

Three young men from North Africa were arrested on Saturday in the western German city of Dortmund for stoning two transgender women.

According to a report on Friday on television station SAT1.NRW, the men attacked Yasmine und Elisa, two transgender women, near the city’s main train station.

“Within seconds we were tossed around…and they took stones from a gravel bed on the corner and threw them at us,” said Elisa.

A police car appeared at the train station as the stoning attack unfolded and arrested the men.

The German media as a general rule do not disclose the last names of victims to protect their privacy. The three men are between 16 and 18 years-old and are known to the authorities from theft and assault arrests.

Dortmund police official Kim-Ben Freigang said the suspects told the police that “such persons must be stoned.”


You might ask, why were two trannies hanging around the Bahnhof? Not for any legitimate reason would be my guess. The trade turned out a little rougher than they expected.

Blogger Dexter January 19, 2016 12:06 PM  

Thinking long game, how does one keep the orcs out permanently once they are removed? Short of "eternally-manned machine gun walls", I've got nothing. How does one CLOSE the dark Portal?

Border control is a normal and obligatory function of a state. It is not very difficult or expensive if you actually want to do it. And if you don't want to do it, you won't be a state for very long.

Anonymous Joe Blowe January 19, 2016 12:26 PM  

how does one keep the orcs out permanently

Simple. Cut off the freebies. Jail anyone that gives them a job or a place to live. Sentence local good ol boys that assault the orcs to time served. After that walls and armed guards would be unnecessary.

Blogger Dexter January 19, 2016 12:47 PM  

@25, I would add, hefty reward to anyone who reports those giving lodging or employment to orcs, taken from those who provide the lodging or employment.

$100 to you if your sighting of an orc on the street leads to an arrest and deportation!

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 19, 2016 12:54 PM  

Just wait til Kindermort pictures are published of little Hans or Gretchen murdered by 'immigrants' and tossed in the dumpster.

The current media owners will have to go in the dumpster first, as that news gets censored off social media by the jewish lesbian former stasi leader Anetta Kahane. I don't know if the 3yo boy was actually dead but I am sure he didn't drown as the dad said, especially if the mom was actually in the water long enough to bloat.

"The far right literally thinks all Muslims are rapists."So kind of these leftists to tell us how we think.

Of course not. Some moslems are rapees, and others just support rapists so they don't get beheaded.

You might ask, why were two trannies hanging around the Bahnhof?.. The trade turned out a little rougher than they expected

#23 Its hard to explain to most gays that moslems when moslems want to stone them its with stones, not drugs before sex. No No you are not getting free drugs out of it.

how does one keep the orcs out permanently

If Trump said he would give a pardon to anyone whose only crime was killing a drug dealer or illegal alien that was a felon, there would be stampedes out of the US. Also no freebies like Puerto Ricans collecting Social Security Disability for NoSpeakEnglish.

Blogger CarpeOro January 19, 2016 1:31 PM  

Guess Led Zeppelin was never big in Germany. If they had been, "Immigrant Song" may have given them pause. Sure, different source of immigrants but same result.

Blogger CurlyQ January 19, 2016 1:57 PM  

For those who still support immigration, I think the relatively recent trend of victim glorification plays into it. I have actually seen a girl wish she was raped so she could say she had been through it, and could "help" others.
You don't get much dumber than that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 2:03 PM  

"The far right literally thinks all Muslims are rapists."
Only half of them. The other half are rape victims.

Blogger Halifax Donair January 19, 2016 2:40 PM  

Lewis' Circular Fallacy in action. The comments against propaganda just proves the beatings will continue until morale improves... oh, I meaneed proves we need more propaganda.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 19, 2016 3:02 PM  

The thing to note about these polls is that the majority has always been against more immigration, even before the news leaked and our governments started having to deal with reality instead of their own fucking lies.

But these duplicitous scumbag arseholes have not a shred of respect for the democracy they're madly exporting to Libya, Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, and Afghanistan ... at gunpoint.

No, they blithely over-ride the will of the people, call us nazi haters for objecting, and when their perfidy backfires, they lie, lie, lie.

It's almost like they're SJWs or something ...

Blogger SciVo January 20, 2016 12:50 AM  

@ CurlyQ:

Wow. Women commonly have nonconsent fantasies, and she found a way to make them unerotic. Just add social justice virtue signaling!

Blogger Wayne Earl January 20, 2016 5:45 AM  

History shows the way, but you almost seebit yourself in your own comment.

You remove the orcs with the machine gun. All of them. Them, as well as their woman and children.

I am named after an ancestor listed in the Dawes rolls, and am actually 50% native american genetically (though i was not raised with any contact with that side of my family). People misinterret the US treatment of the native peoples quitw badly - it is actually one of th few and only examples of mercy on a vanquished people, as history shows that genocide is the norm.

You dont ever need worry about a son avenging a father when you ensure them both dead.

Brutal, but true.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 20, 2016 6:30 AM  

@34 "Nits make lice."

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