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Monday, January 25, 2016

Facebook is not your friend

Facebook has transformed itself into Big Brother. If you're on it, it's time to get off the platform:
Facebook began a Europe-wide campaign on Monday to thwart extremist posts on social media, after German politicians in particular raised concerns about a rise in xenophobic comments linked to an influx of refugees.

The U.S.-based group launched its "Initiative for Civil Courage Online" in Berlin, pledging over 1 million euros (1 million pounds) to support non-governmental organisations in their efforts to counter racist and xenophobic posts.

Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg said hate speech "has no place in our society", including in the Internet.

Facebook's ground rules forbid bullying, harassment and threatening language, but critics say it does not enforce them properly. On Friday, the firm said it had hired a unit of the publisher Bertelsmann to monitor and delete racist posts on its platform in Germany.
One of the first things Facebook has apparently done, as part of this campaign "to counter racist and xenophobic posts", is to expel over 1,000 members of the Facebook group "#GamerGate & #NotYourShield". The 2,300-member Facebook group #GG  was also shut down yesterday.

Some have said that it was a group mod who was responsible; I'm not on Facebook and I wasn't a member of those groups, so I don't know. All I know is from an email sent by a member of both groups who was expelled from the first one.

Regardless, it is important to understand that Facebook is not your friend. Facebook is your enemy and it is the enemy of Western civilization. So stop supporting it. Stop using it.

UPDATE: Facebook has also repeatedly removed the video of a 15-year-old German girl who expressed her fears of those who have invaded her country on the grounds of xenophobia:
Hello, you can read the newspapers but this video is about the real situation in Germany. I would like to tell everyone about this on Youtube and Facebook. I am almost 16. I would like everyone to know what is going on, what I am authentically feeling at this moment.

And I am so scared everywhere. For example, if my family and I go out together, or if I see a movie with my friends. Usually I stay at home, but sometimes I stay out until 6 pm in winter, and it is so scary. It is just very hard to live day-to-day life as a woman.

I just want to say that I am not a racist. But one day, a terrible thing happened at the supermarket. I ran all the way home. I was so frightened for my life. There’s no other way to describe it.

My aunt and her friend have said you have to grow up. Why should we, children, have to grow up in such fear? It’s not just me, my friends too. You can see on Facebook, a 17 year old attacked, a 15 year old attacked, two 12-year olds attacked, so many. It is really so sad that this is happening … because of YOU PEOPLE. :(

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192 Comments:

Anonymous Nxx January 25, 2016 6:34 AM  

Facebook also banned the 16 year old German girl who made this video:

WATCH: ‘Angela Merkel You Have Killed Germany!’ – 16 Year Old Girl’s Migrant Fears Video That Some Claim Facebook Are ‘Censoring’

Banning this girl for making that video is cold evil in its purest crystal clear form.

Blogger bub January 25, 2016 7:01 AM  

A couple of weeks ago Amazon Deutschland: A political party (Pegida?) got some support via people buying merchandise through Amazon Link. SJWs criticized Amazon, who responded by donating the profits from the sale of that merchandise to groups supporting immigration/national murder.

Suppose pro-lifers bought stuff in USA to support pro-life groups, and Amazon donated the profits to PP. Nasty.

Blogger Rantor January 25, 2016 7:01 AM  

International management of the Internet is just another way to give governments power to censor all of it. They want to shut free speech down. Dark net will have to grow as governments fight democratic nationalism in support of international socialism.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J January 25, 2016 7:03 AM  

Well, it's a toy and I treat it as such. I share info on upcoming classes and events, and cute pics of the animals. It's one place I know I can reach a bunch of people. FB is full of clickbait articles and nonsense memes.

It's a pity they are censoring but it was coming and everyone knows it. I suppose even the lotus eaters might get an odd blossom now and then that wakes them from the stupor. Can't have that.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 January 25, 2016 7:03 AM  

I know, now that the heavy lifting has been done at Facebook, let's put a few more sensitive, compassionate women in supervisory positions.
I foresee a few MORE "corrections" for FB, starting with fire sale prices for sell off of "minor" licencing, and the introduction of advertising just like "as seen on AOL". (and Instapundit, and The Blaze, and Twitchy, and....
CaptDMO

Blogger jeffrey takada January 25, 2016 7:03 AM  

Reposted the video. If they take it down, I'll walk away for good.

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 7:04 AM  

Surprised? Hardly, the question being 'who can replace them?' Faceberg killed MySpace, Google tried (and failed) and of course, twitter is about as bad.
If someone appears to challenge them they'd better be ready to deal with the exodus of Faceberg users. When reddit went SJW, voat got pounded like Brady yesterday and 8chan is struggling due to clunky software (and their new software is still in beta - at best).
I agree Faceberg needs to go, but people want a place to post cat pics and talk about what they had for lunch - and so far there is no real alternative.
BTW, when some site wants my email, I give them one: nsa@facebook.com
I have no doubt it's valid, and might as well cut out the middleman (me).

Anonymous PB Max January 25, 2016 7:05 AM  

I hear you Vox, but how is this not conceding territory? When right-minded folks pull out, won't that mean that the uninformed and undecided won't be exposed to any nationalist or conservative thought?

Blogger dlstacy January 25, 2016 7:10 AM  

The geniuses at FB are going to end up driving everyone to 8chan. What then?

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 7:19 AM  

@3 Rantor:
Dark net will have to grow as governments fight democratic nationalism in support of international socialism.
''Dark net'' has two problems: The only way to access it is Tor Browser (a Firefox variant) which isn't good for general use, and governments can and do attack it often mainly due to the kiddy porn.

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 7:19 AM  

I hear you Vox, but how is this not conceding territory?

It is conceding indefensible territory. It is always foolish to waste effort defending ground that cannot be defended. Facebook will deny the uninformed and undecided that exposure anyhow, so it is much better to make it clear that Facebook is no longer a place to be by rejecting it.

Blogger Sherwood family January 25, 2016 7:20 AM  

Hate speech? HATE SPEECH? They've not yet begun to see hate speech. The Narrative has to be protected at all costs for these people. No dissent, no questioning, no disagreement on these fundamental issues. Issues of life and death. Post all the cat videos you want but don't question the multi-culti progressive worldview. That's xenophobic. Don't go telling anyone you're worried about getting raped by rapefugees. That's hate speech. The longer they keep this up the bigger the backlash is going to be and when it is done some of these folks will wonder why the explosion was so large and the answer will be: because you wouldn't let anyone discuss the problems. You called them "hate speech instead."

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 7:20 AM  

What then?

Fox News vs CNN. Guess who wins.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 25, 2016 7:32 AM  

Someone needs to invent an alternative!

Anonymous Difster January 25, 2016 7:43 AM  

VD,

I'm surprised that Google has not removed this blog yet for "hate speech" and "racism."

One can only assume, you've planned for that contingency already.

Blogger Phillip George January 25, 2016 7:43 AM  

There's only one story here. Thirteen year old girls aren't being protected.
Aurelie Chatelain - again, and again, and again. Her child is motherless. France, a police force, their national intelligence agencies, their army, their foreign legion, their history, their political class, their academics, their lawyers, their tolerance, their diversity, didn't protect her. She's dead because a man professing to follow the teachings of Muhammad wanted her car to use to kill more infidels, kafir, unbelievers, and saw in a single woman a soft target. France was not her protector, defender. France failed. France is a failure. France, as it is, is indefensible.

Anonymous Man of the Atom January 25, 2016 7:56 AM  

Newsflash: Facebook, Twitter, Google platforms, and other social media to merge into more efficient conglomerate. Speculation for the new partnership's name favors "Ministry of Truth".

In other news, George Orwell will now boost electricity generation to 1/3 of planetary power demand via the induction coils in his crypt.

Blogger JP January 25, 2016 7:57 AM  

Just let facebook get converged. It's the best way to shut them down without lifting a finger.

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 8:00 AM  

One can only assume, you've planned for that contingency already.

Of course. I export it regularly. I believe there is also a shadow version of it that is updated regularly.

Blogger Nate January 25, 2016 8:00 AM  

Say what ya want about the old school bitch feminists like Sanger. She would've been organizing the next holocaust on these ragheads.

Feminists today are such pussies.

Anonymous Occam's Laser January 25, 2016 8:01 AM  

MeWe.Com is an alternative, they recognize that net's privacy problem is a democracy problem.

Blogger Salt January 25, 2016 8:02 AM  

Yes, Facebook is indefensible territory. But I question leaving it till fully ejected. If FB takes something down, post it again. If they block it, that uses up some of their resources.

"You can't stop the signal, Mal." - Mr. Universe

Blogger Nate January 25, 2016 8:02 AM  

feminists are the biggest cucks of all. They stand by and watch other women get gang raped... and deny it all just so no one will call them racists.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 25, 2016 8:06 AM  

I don't use FB know next to nothing about it but I wonder are they censoring Mantra posts, mini mantras and white genocide memes?

Anonymous DJF January 25, 2016 8:09 AM  

Who better to police the internet then the STASI. Probably reminds Merkel of good old times

"""An organisation run by a former Stasi agent has been recruited by the German government to patrol Facebook in a bid to stamp out “xenophobic” comments."""

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/17/german-govt-hires-ex-stasi-agent-patrol-facebook-xenophobic-comments/

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 25, 2016 8:11 AM  

@15 Difster:

VD,

I'm surprised that Google has not removed this blog yet for "hate speech" and "racism."

One can only assume, you've planned for that contingency already.


Google is a safer bet because so much of their revenue depends on the quality of the search engine. If or when it is generally perceived they're playing PC games of this sort people will start to distrust the search engine and start using alternatives, depriving them of revenue.

Also an issue with their cloud services akin to Amazon's AWS, Google Fiber, Android services and marketplace and so on, they have to be seen as a minimally honest broker or people will use alternatives.

Companies like Facebook and Twitter by and large only do one thing, and network effects, the tremendous value from all the people who are already on their networks, makes their services a lot more "sticky."

Blogger Sean January 25, 2016 8:12 AM  

Facebook was always a lost cause. The key though is to understand facebook is a lost cause while forcing them to expend energy and resources rooting out heresy. Then promote the idea of facebook censorship, forcing them to use more resources defending against the claim. These will be small victories in the short run, but many small victories can mean something bigger in the long run.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 25, 2016 8:17 AM  

#27 I like your tack. Damn kind of like 4GW "Facebook" and "censorship" go together.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 25, 2016 8:27 AM  

They can't let haters be posting things like this now can they? [Trigger warning: immi-vader shamelessly taking a shit on public transport in Germany.]

I mean what would those racist Germans do if they got to see their country being dragged back to the middle-ages as they sit on their arses and let it happen... This 'man' is fed and housed at taxpayers expense and can't even be bothered to go to the toilet properly - how can you share your country with them?

It's not a problem of education - he can clearly see that no one else does this anywhere in public (except his fellow rapefugees).

Vile, backward, disease-ridden animals; the only worse people on this planet at the moment are the fat, hate-filled, joyless girls that are campaigning to welcoming them in and the selfish elite who are laughing their arses off at how low the proles will go to please their psychopathic masters.

Something has to happen soon or civilization is doomed. The inbred elite have been handed the reins of power and they are too lazy and too incompetent to rule without fucking it all up for everyone.

They need a populace dumber than they are to maintain power and if they rape and shit everywhere, so what, it wont touch them.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau January 25, 2016 8:27 AM  

'Hate' is subjectrive. Who gets to define "hate"?

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 8:29 AM  

IIRC, it is possible to use Blogger as a 'front end' to a blog hosted somewhere other than Google, much the same way many use WordPress.
The only thing that would change is the URL otherwise it would look and act exactly the same.
If that's done the only restrictions would be the site host's TOS.
And most hosting services don't care what is done so long as it isn't outright illegal.

Blogger Sean January 25, 2016 8:29 AM  

Aye..remember the maxim:

Enemy advances, we retreat. Enemy retreats, we advance. Enemy halts, we harass. Well, the enemy is advancing..so we retreat. Once they are in it..they halt. That`s when we harass. Keep putting up sites. Do it as a hobby. Force them to take them down. Troll them. Meme them. Repeat. Complain about their censorship on our platforms. take the matter to civil rights orgs. Keep at it.

And just for the lulz, we should use their own system against them by FLOODING it with requests to take down stuff we don`t like. It doesnt matter how frivolous it is..just inundate them with requests..over and over again. `Force them to expend time and effort.

Blogger Lord Nifty January 25, 2016 8:31 AM  

Facebook used to be good. People used it for sharing photos, posting funny stuff, keeping in touch with friends/relatives overseas, and party invites.

At some point- I'm not sure when- it got over-run with SJW bullshit. Nothing more than a platform for self-righteous hypocrites to push the latest crap. I got sick of it and bailed.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 25, 2016 8:43 AM  

Tom Kratman was having the same problem over the weekend with Facebook

First Twitter starts randomly going after rightwingers, now Facebook. Something is bothering the Hivemind, rather a lot I think.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2016 8:45 AM  

Facebook's actions can be seen as analogous to the D/R Establishment's war on Trump. Those deciding to act fundamentally miss the fact that triangulating the Fat Middle only works if the Fat Middle exists.

The Old Narrative was a Fat (Muddy) Middle whose attributes were important only to a few zealots. Most people simply didn't care.
Now people are abandoning the Muddle Middle (to which they never had much allegiance) in favor of Belief Towers that 1) hate each other and 2) harbor VERY intense adherence.

Watch corporate managers become just as dismayed as Cuckservative, Inc., by the utter abandonment of what they thought was their entitlement.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2016 8:47 AM  

Maybe it's finally time for FB, et.al., to reverse in spades.

I never tire of laughing at stock analysts who believe Fukayama's claim that history has stopped moving.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet January 25, 2016 8:47 AM  

Many of the liberals I know are starting to talk as if they believe hate speech is part of the law here.

Also, what the Hell man is still on Facebook?

I openly mock my guy friends if they even mention it.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 January 25, 2016 8:48 AM  

Anyone with a Facebook account should start spamming #GamerGate and #NotYourShield tags.

Anonymous Revan January 25, 2016 8:54 AM  

I was in that Facebook group and it was a moderator when was responsible. Members were posting screen shots in the new group of what the admin was posting.

That doesn't change the fact that Facebook is on a PC crusade and is doing what it can to ban certain types of speech.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 25, 2016 8:55 AM  

@12...
Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I always suspect TPTB are secretly pushing more outrageous and destructive behavior by the invaders, until they do something truly unforgivable like set off a dirty bomb in Europe or the US, along with the associated righteous backlash.

Then the globalists will have the perfect excuse to ban all religious expression by all religions everywhere including Christianity, the one religion they truly hate.

Blogger Lumprod January 25, 2016 8:55 AM  

First Facebook came for the Speakers, and I did not react —
Because I just wrote it.

Then Facebook came for the Writers, and I did not react —
Because by then I only thought it.

Then Facebook came for the Thinkers — and there was no one left to react for me.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 25, 2016 9:02 AM  

I use it for work but I'll discuss with the boss on letting me kill my account and just using a company one or have another employee post on my behalf.

I now really look forward to building the Alt-Web.

OT: Vox, you read JC Wright's recent post, The Lamps Go Out? He's right, we really are presently in a new and true Dark Age.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 25, 2016 9:03 AM  

@40 continued...

By preventing free speech in carefully selected venues like FB while allowing it in less trafficked other spaces, TPTB are deliberately setting up a literal and figurative time bomb. They must be having orgasms fantasizing about when it will go off.

Blogger Chuck January 25, 2016 9:10 AM  

It's a follow on from Davos, Sandberg doing her thing to serve the cause -

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/23/davos_2016_comment/

Blogger Salt January 25, 2016 9:12 AM  

There is a #gamergate group. 59 members. To small to be noticed?

Anonymous Nxx January 25, 2016 9:14 AM  

Take a look at the mind-boggling scale of the SJW censorship frenzy at reddit:

News story post on reddit
Comments: 4551

Corresponding deleted comments on unreddit
Comments: 3040

I don't know much about unreddit. But from what I see it's quite the eye opener as to the sheer scale of the social media censorship war.

Think of the hundreds of thousands of people getting cold showered by social media censors every day. Think of the ocean of ill will this is generating toward converged social media.

No wonder 8ch servers can barely cope. No wonder people go through all the trouble of creating sites like unreddit.

Anonymous Faceless January 25, 2016 9:15 AM  

@34

Maybe this was the agreed upon plan from Obama's big get together with the social media companies just before they de-verified Milo?

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 25, 2016 9:23 AM  

And what is happening to these kids in Germany? I empathize with them, but it pales to my rage aimed at the parents and the older generations who just stand by as they watch their children get raped along with their heritage. Like the ancient Hebrews, who have turned away from God, how quickly the older generation is willing to feed their children to Moloch to continue their comfort.

Anonymous Partisan January 25, 2016 9:24 AM  

As far as search engines and email go, Ixquick and Startmail are highly useful.

Don't feed The Beast.

OpenID denektenorsk January 25, 2016 9:28 AM  

MeWe.Com is an alternative, they recognize that net's privacy problem is a democracy problem.

Thank you for that. I have avoided Facebook for the past couple of months. The only reason I kept it open was to stay in touch with overseas relatives. Now that I no longer need it for that, well, account deleted.

Anonymous karsten January 25, 2016 9:36 AM  

Someone needs to do this:

https://twitter.com/marylovefreedom/status/691594965760266240

There are, presumably, people who read this blog who have the requisite tech and entrepreneurial skills. It's a real opportunity.

Blogger Matt@Occidentalism.org January 25, 2016 9:40 AM  

Mass migration to vk.com anyone?

Anonymous karsten January 25, 2016 9:43 AM  

"MeWe.Com is an alternative, they recognize that net's privacy problem is a democracy problem."

I'm liking the commitment to privacy. Really nice cover page too. Friendly, in a way that could attract normies.

However, I'd be more enthused if it stated a commitment not to politically censor content.

Anonymous Hrw-500 January 25, 2016 9:45 AM  

Erza Levant had posted a video about Facebook on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V35G9fK7gcY

We got the Gamergate, the Twittergate and now here come the "Facebookgate"

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2016 9:48 AM  

Pretty soon it will be time to round up all the ethnic Germans and tattoo them with swastikas for easy identification.

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 9:53 AM  

@40. Eric the Red:
Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I always suspect TPTB are secretly pushing more outrageous and destructive behavior by the invaders, until they do something truly unforgivable like set off a dirty bomb in Europe or the US, along with the associated righteous backlash.
Sure, about 90% of what is now known as the so-called PATRIOT Act was proposed by the Clinton administration right after the Oklahoma City bombing. It was voted down on a (GOP) party-line vote.
Post 9/11 it got dusted off, a few things were added, it got dubbed the PATRIOT Act and it flew through Congress so fast by the time it was on Shrub's desk the ink was probably still wet.
Remember how you used to get your cancelled checks with your statement?
Ending that was in both.
Best way to grow government? Acts of war.

Anonymous kawaika January 25, 2016 9:56 AM  

"It is conceding indefensible territory. It is always foolish to waste effort defending ground that cannot be defended."

I haven't been banned from Goodreads yet, is it a waste of time to rate and review?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 10:02 AM  

@23 Nate
feminists are the biggest cucks of all. They stand by and watch other women get gang raped... and deny it all just so no one will call them racists.
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Yep. These are the ones we won't be defending when the time comes. Let them take their own medicine.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 25, 2016 10:04 AM  

VK seems like a more politically palatable alternative given its Slavic focus.

Anonymous WillBest January 25, 2016 10:06 AM  

Its a bit odd that Facebook of all people would censor speech. Their whole revenue stream is based on people providing them free honest information about themselves so that they can compile marketing profiles and sell them to advertisers. They are basically saying that in the future they plan to offer their customers an inferior product.

teen and twenty something men are the key. If they don't adopt a social network it won't end up being a general use environment.

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 10:10 AM  

@46. Nxx:
No wonder 8ch servers can barely cope.
Nope, since the merger with 2channel (the Japanese site that inspired 4chan) server capacity hasn't been an issue. It's Tinyboard, it's been rewritten so much to deal with the growth (and large number of boards) of 8chan that's it's become a buggy mess.
Hotwheels got so tired of fighting with it that he started from scratch. The new software has um, issues...
It's not going well.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 10:15 AM  

@30 Skylark Thibedeau
'Hate' is subjectrive. Who gets to define "hate"?
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Don't let it be Jeb Bush. He would call Shut Up Rabbits example - A Dump of Love :P

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 25, 2016 10:15 AM  

I am too old to be Facebook dependent but for younger people this would seem to subject their social lives to the same totalitarian controls they are subjected to at school and work, following their leftist indoctrination in the public schools prior to adulthood. It is a testament to the instinctive disgust that many leftist ideas inspire that one ever hears conservative voices through this degree of thought policing.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 10:17 AM  

@31 YIH

IIRC, it is possible to use Blogger as a 'front end' to a blog hosted somewhere other than Google, much the same way many use WordPress.
The only thing that would change is the URL otherwise it would look and act exactly the same.
--

You mean swap out the back end, but keep the interface? That's a classic software model.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 10:19 AM  

@34 Cataline Sergius

First Twitter starts randomly going after rightwingers, now Facebook. Something is bothering the Hivemind, rather a lot I think.
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They are afraid of huge amounts of others following in my footsteps, going from a Sad Puppy into a full out Were-Puppy. They don't want people to wake up, and see what is happening all around them.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 10:22 AM  

This SJW convergence comes for them all.

It's like the old saying about the pendulum swinging back eventually.

With them, the pendulum swings left until it breaks.

Anonymous Harry P. January 25, 2016 10:26 AM  

Facebook was doing this for some time already. Two weeks ago it blocked facebook page of group "Islám v ČR nechceme" (We don't want Islam in Czech Republic), which is something like Pegida here in Czech republic, with over 163 thousands followers (that's quite a lot when you consider number of facebook users in country with population of 10 millions).

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 10:32 AM  

@64. Were-Puppy:
You mean swap out the back end, but keep the interface?
Pretty much.

Blogger Christopher Yost January 25, 2016 10:34 AM  

I quit Facebook and my doctor actually noted it, citing my better blood pressure and lowered stress.

Hadn't realized how all that rampant bullshit and stupidity was effecting me.

G+ is a better alternative and I even happily go back and forth with honest feminists. It's even more fun watching them jump down the throats of would-be SJW's.

They keep getting pounced on by most people.

It has been getting worse, though, with Facebookers trying to use it as such.

Anonymous Full-Fledged Fiasco January 25, 2016 10:36 AM  

An alternative to Facebook.

Anonymous Frank B Luke January 25, 2016 10:39 AM  

But, oddly enough, that Huufington Post video of the 15yo boy crying about how bad a Trump presidency would be is going like the Energizer Bunny.

"Grown ups, don't make us grow up under Trump."

Sorry, whiny gamma. Not listening. Not getting everything you want is part of being human, handling that fact well is part of being grown up.

I didn't want my kids growing up under O and inheriting the mess he's leaving behind. Tell me again, how many wars has he stopped? He was given a Nobel Peace Prize, surely he's worked for peace.

Blogger The Other Robot January 25, 2016 10:42 AM  

Isn't government and corporate collusion the very definition of fascism?

Anonymous rienzi January 25, 2016 10:45 AM  

25."""An organisation run by a former Stasi agent has been recruited by the German government to patrol Facebook in a bid to stamp out “xenophobic” comments."""


LOL! Now THAT is funny. Now his organization is going to need a name. I propose "Geheime Staatspolizei". Yeah, that'll work.

Sieg Merkel!

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 10:46 AM  

Someone needs to do this

Why don't you stop talking about what someone else has to do all the time and do it yourself? If it needs to be done, why don't you do it?

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 10:47 AM  

Isn't government and corporate collusion the very definition of fascism?

It's not the definition, but it is the essence.

Blogger Timmy3 January 25, 2016 10:50 AM  

Facebook should be used for its intended purpose which is to keep up with friends and family. Otherwise, it invades your privacy and can get you fired. I keep my profile in the private setting and only let friends view it. I regularly delete my posts. I keep my posts in private view for less than one week.

OpenID denektenorsk January 25, 2016 10:50 AM  

In related news those naughty, naughty Danes are being meanie pants: http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-denmark-idUKKCN0UZ1MK

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 25, 2016 10:52 AM  

@20 PP is doing yeoman work in Mississippi.  I know that the right isn't disingenuous enough to condemn a covert ally, but you have to take help where you find it.

@49 Just dumped DuckDuckGo for Ixquick.  DDG often deletes the very search results I'm specifically trying to find, so I've been looking for an alternative for a while.  Now all I have to worry about is IQ going the way of my previous favorite, Scroogle.

@56 "War is the health of the state."

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 10:53 AM  

@72 The Other Robot

Isn't government and corporate collusion the very definition of fascism?
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Corporatism

Anonymous Swiggy P January 25, 2016 10:56 AM  

Looks like you guys have lost!

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 11:04 AM  

Facebook should be used for its intended purpose which is to keep up with friends and family.

No, Facebook should not be used at all. It is deeply stupid to use it.

Looks like you guys have lost!

So you think we should just give up on the whole resolving-differences-through-politics idea and go right to killing you? Duly noted.

Typical Gamma. He thinks the only alternative to arguing is submission. That is why the Gamma never expects the punch in the mouth.

Blogger Halifax Donair January 25, 2016 11:08 AM  

Alex Jones should worry more about these walled gardens turning into FEMA camps. At some point a government is going to step in and nationalize it / put it under PUC like with other utilities. That's when we really need to start worrying, and all those "censorship isn't censorship unless it's government" knobs will understand why that isn't true.

Blogger Gaiseric January 25, 2016 11:11 AM  

@26 Google is a safer bet because so much of their revenue depends on the quality of the search engine. If or when it is generally perceived they're playing PC games of this sort people will start to distrust the search engine and start using alternatives, depriving them of revenue.

Did you not see the Google ad on New Year's Eve, right before the ball dropped?

http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2015/03/24/as-tech-giant-calls-for-more-foreign-workers-senate-hears-of-displaced-americans-n1975180/page/full

Blogger Halifax Donair January 25, 2016 11:12 AM  

@5 You know I haven't heard "you've been TOSed" in many years.

You're right, Facebook has been AOL. Good containment for normies, you have to admit, though.

Blogger Christopher Yost January 25, 2016 11:14 AM  

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Blogger Halifax Donair January 25, 2016 11:16 AM  

@12 Yeah, they consider someone calling John Flynt by his birth name as bad as Radio Mille Collines.

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 11:19 AM  

Speaking of Twitter...
Rats, sinking ship, you know the drill.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 25, 2016 11:20 AM  

@83 Gaiseric:

@26 Google is a safer bet because so much of their revenue depends on the quality of the search engine. If or when it is generally perceived they're playing PC games of this sort people will start to distrust the search engine and start using alternatives, depriving them of revenue.

Did you not see the Google [H-1B visa] ad on New Year's Eve, right before the ball dropped?


No one doubts Google's general leftist ill will (look at how often a Google Doodle slaps us in the face, then again H-1B visas are so All American Cruz wants to increase them by five times), but we haven't yet seen SJW convergence affect their important platforms like Blogger, and therefore they aren't suffering from reduced ad revenues from people abandoning Google search for that reason.

Blogger The Other Robot January 25, 2016 11:22 AM  

Won't this act of censorship tend to have the opposite result than intended?

Blogger endwatcher January 25, 2016 11:25 AM  

Been completely off facebook for months. You miss nothing being off of it.

Blogger endwatcher January 25, 2016 11:25 AM  

Been completely off facebook for months. You miss nothing being off of it.

Blogger Sevron January 25, 2016 11:28 AM  

Robot it depends on if the Germans are like Vox predicts or not. It'd be nice to see more action out of them.

Blogger LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up January 25, 2016 11:30 AM  

More wonderful news of failed outlets! FB is exposed for the farce it always was!

Blogger Halifax Donair January 25, 2016 11:32 AM  

@61

Uh, guys, I think I see a pattern here...

Great strategy: infiltrate the OSS that runs the imageboards... or maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

What 8ch needs is a lightweight replacement. Maybe that thing Moldbug was working on. Looked interesting, even though I didn't quite grok it.

Blogger pyrrhus January 25, 2016 11:39 AM  

I think the Germans are genetically excessively obedient to authority....One German general commented that his troops wouldn't attack a train station unless you bought them tickets first...

Blogger Matamoros January 25, 2016 11:40 AM  

More on the evil front:
"Sen­ate Ma­jor­ity Lead­er Mitch Mc­Con­nell is attempting to fast track a “war powers” bill that will allow President Obama nearly unlimited power to deploy the military anywhere in the world for any length of time – including on U.S. soil."

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-military-martial-law-bill-sneaked-through-by-senate/

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 11:45 AM  

I can remember telling friends when these social media sites started popping up that they are simply a way of tracking what you do. Anything written on these sites can be used against you. And they encourage individuals to say things they normally wouldn't. As if they were texting or emailing friends. A false sense of security and safety.

When the facebooks and twitters first came out they were being promoted by major news outlets and sports info sites (NFL Network, ESPN) as interactive. "Come post your thoughts about this on facebook/twitter". That should have been ones first clue.

Those sites are all ego driven anyway when broken down in reality. Giving people an over inflated value of their selves. In the fact that they think when they post on a facebook that they took a shit at 9am, that anyone really cares. A total waste of time.

Blogger Krul January 25, 2016 11:51 AM  

Onion Facebook report (oldie but goodie)

Anonymous Boom diddy January 25, 2016 11:53 AM  

The white tears on display here are delicious.

looks like white men keep losing!


http://verysmartbrothas.com/who-causes-more-white-tears-cam-newton-or-serena-williams/

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 25, 2016 11:56 AM  

@96 Matamoros:

More on the evil front:
"Sen­ate Ma­jor­ity Lead­er Mitch Mc­Con­nell is attempting to fast track a “war powers” bill that will allow President Obama nearly unlimited power to deploy the military anywhere in the world for any length of time – including on U.S. soil."

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-military-martial-law-bill-sneaked-through-by-senate/


Note that Infowars (Alex Jones) is quoting the respected Defense One MSM site for the raw info, it's part of the media group that publishes The Atlantic (which is surprisingly sane as this goes) and National Journal.

As others including I think the Instapundit have noted, it's a sad comment on the times that we no longer can automatically dismiss what Jones says.

Blogger RobertT January 25, 2016 12:05 PM  

This is going to be a problem. Twitter, Facebook, Wikipedia ... what's left? But on the other hand, this is is one of those black swan moments for anyone who's willing to fill the void. Hint, hint. How many times have you ever seen someone vacate a viable market? Few & far between.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 25, 2016 12:07 PM  

@ rienzi

"LOL! Now THAT is funny. Now [his] organization is going to need a name. I propose "Geheime Staatspolizei". Yeah, that'll work."

It's not a "him" it's a "her" (((Annetta Kahane))), Stasi code-name "Victoria", active in the 70s and 80s.

Big Gay Steve, Irish Savant and I saw the first rumblings of this evil harridan being resurrected six months ago.

Blogger collisioncat67 January 25, 2016 12:13 PM  

I just never understood the appeal of Facebook. I really have no curiosity about the bland minutia of other peoples day-to-day lives. Even if they are family.
I certainly feel no compunction to broadcast what restaurant I may be dining at or what pair of jeans I just bought.
I see all these people spending every free minute on Facebook and I honestly wonder; what am I missing?

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 12:17 PM  

The white tears on display here are delicious.

looks like white men keep losing!


Nigger gonna nigger.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 25, 2016 12:22 PM  

@102 RobertT:

This is going to be a problem. Twitter, Facebook, Wikipedia ... what's left?

I see that as looking at the problem from the wrong angle. Before any of these existed there were less easy and/or less connected ways of accomplishing the same things. They got big by offering solutions to those issues, and to the extent they weren't born in leftist sin, they became the targets of SJWs primarily because of their success and lack of defenses. See Robert Conquest's 2nd Law of Politics: "Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing", this was a thing long before its current SJW manifestation.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 12:27 PM  

I'm with #22...

Yes, Facebook is indefensible territory. But I question leaving it till fully ejected. If FB takes something down, post it again. If they block it, that uses up some of their resources.

"You can't stop the signal, Mal." - Mr. Universe


It should absolutely be considered enemy held territory but at the same time where better for harassment tactics? Every post they must delete costs them time and energy and enrages many normals who may perhaps at some point Red Pill, no?

If your enemy offers you an opportunity for carefully placed shivs why not take it?

Blogger Anonymous Robot January 25, 2016 12:39 PM  

Someone needs to invent an alternative!

Well, someone referred to TheRealTalk.Org but that is centralized.

It needs to be distributed and encrypted. That way they can only shut it down by taking away all our computers and cell phones and tablets.

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 12:43 PM  

Sensitive little ninnies you right wing bigots, racists and harassers you are. Why should Facebook put up with being a forum for the likes of you?

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 12:51 PM  

Stop being so vulgar, Shut Up Rabbit, if you want your posts to remain.

Why should Facebook put up with being a forum for the likes of you?

It shouldn't. I recommend that everyone who is right-of-center abandon it. It's going to be fun Fox Newsing them and listening to your shrieks of outrage.

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 12:52 PM  

If your enemy offers you an opportunity for carefully placed shivs why not take it?

Because their business relies upon your having an account there. You hurt them far worse by leaving and reducing its value to your friends and family. You are actively supporting them so long as you refuse to delete your account there.

Anonymous Occam's Laser January 25, 2016 12:57 PM  

@53
Pressure them, I'm quite sure they'd be open to that, I know one of their top guys.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 12:59 PM  

YOur points Vd, as usual, are excellent.

I have only one remaining question and the analogy to Fox is an excellent one. If we don't try to put RealTalk on Facebook we are abandoning great swaths of the populace to the SJW's, right?

They may be utterly lost already but in my daily life I find many in my workplace who I think may be persuadable but it is not the work of a moment and it takes dank memes and typical Worldstarhiphop behavior to move them. If we cede Facebook I believe we cede them because at this point they absolutely will not willingly go against the herd. IOW they would rather die than turn on Fox News of their own will and volition.

Though I grok your point about this empowering Facebook. I'm stumped can anyone cut this Gordian knot for me?

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 1:01 PM  

Greunner, the fact you can't see that the freedom we fight for is your freedom as well, combined with the fact you are blind to the fact thesecweaoons will one day be turned against you, gives two independent data points that prove you are not tall enough to ride this ride.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 1:03 PM  

Related, I think, there was some talk of AOS style 'meet-ups' for regulars here. Any interest from the ilk? I do think getting things into meatspace can be an important step for the reasons stated above.

I attended an AOS meet-up in Chicago when I lived there. It was...interesting, but ultimately not productive as too many were still deeply blue pilled (e.g. Detroit is the fault of those darn D's!).

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 1:06 PM  

The right abandoning Facebook hastens the day of convergence.

SJWs feed on virtue signalling, so they are always on the lookout for new targets. The day they run off the last right winger is the day they turn on each other.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2016 1:17 PM  

"That way they can only shut it down by taking away . . ."

. . . our carrier.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 25, 2016 1:20 PM  

I foresee a few MORE "corrections" for FB, starting with fire sale prices for sell off of "minor" licencing

It will get a bail out, its too Jewish Stasi to fail

I hear you Vox, but how is this not conceding territory?... indefensible territory

Look me wearing a shirt that says "WHITE PRIVILEGE IS EVOLUTION" to a gay bath house isn't going to convert the majority. Zuckborg is willing to spend millions of taxpayer dollars he gets for spying on Americans on these issues.

I'm surprised that Google has not removed this blog yet for "hate speech" and "racism."

There have been times I have typed VOX DAY into a search engine and not seen VD on the first page.

f FB takes something down, post it again. If they block it, that uses up some of their resources.

With Shadowbanning you don't know you are being censored unless you try to find things you posted while logged off with cookies cleared.

Mr.MantraMan I wonder are they censoring Mantra posts, mini mantras and white genocide memes?

With shadowbanning you can post it, but no one will see it unless they are logged in as you.

"It’s come to my attention that quite a few of our followers are shadowbanned. If you don’t know what shadowbanning is, basically it’s how you get silenced without getting outright banned. If you get reported too much or just piss off the wrong person, you don’t show up in notes and you don’t show up in tags.

To check if you’re shadowbanned you can do a few quick things:

Make a post with an obscure tag. ALT+[some numbers] usually aren’t frequently used, also made up words. Then, go to tumblr.com/tagged/[whatever tag] and see if your post shows up. If it’s not there, you’re probably shadowbanned.

Also, like a post. This post, perhaps. Then check the notes of the post. Do you show up? If not, you’re probably shadowbanned."

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 1:24 PM  

If we cede Facebook I believe we cede them because at this point they absolutely will not willingly go against the herd. IOW they would rather die than turn on Fox News of their own will and volition.

You haven't been paying attention to the numbers. Who does better, MSNBC or Fox News? The only reason Facebook is so influential is because it has no competition. The first thing to do is leave it. The second thing to do is support any alternatives.

Anonymous BGKB January 25, 2016 1:45 PM  

what is happening to these kids in Germany? I empathize with them, but it pales to my rage aimed at the parent

They are being told that if they don't like black/brown crime they are just like AH. Of course this will lead them to realize maybe AH had a point.

looks like white men keep losing!..who-causes-more-white-tears-cam-newton-or-serena-williams

White men's bodies make less testosterone than both of those shoot up.

It's not a "him" it's a "her" (((Annetta Kahane)))...Big Gay Steve...saw the first rumblings of this evil harridan

She is an ugly lesbian so you can't blame him for the mix up.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2016 1:46 PM  

> Just dumped DuckDuckGo for Ixquick.

Ixquick (also available via startpage.com) seems to be the best Google alternative in terms of results and privacy. Duck Duck Go is a distant second, mostly because their search results suck.

Jim Lynch wrote an article about this and recommended Ello.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 2:03 PM  

BGKB @117 On shadowbanning

Yes but, they are totalitarians and at some point the mask will slip, like with Milo. Like with Gamergate. I still believe we have to allow them enough rope to hang themselves.

I agree we need our own platforms but, and let's be clear, is Fox News truly a "conservative" anything? Would it be allowed to exist if it were? I don't think so.

Fox News feels like controlled opposition to me. What am I missing?

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 2:11 PM  

I think we may be talking past each other at this point. I hear all of your points guys, and I think they're good ones. My only sticking point is the feeling that we are leaving possible allies behind. That may just be costs of war or some such, I don't know.

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 2:13 PM  

" The only reason Facebook is so influential is because it has no competition."

That's not how they or any other casual observer of social media sees it. They are an advertising platform. They compete with Googla, Twitter, Pinterest, Instagram, Microsoft...just to name a few.

Jon...why would I be a target of Facebook? I'm not a bigot nor a harasser like those banned.

Blogger benning January 25, 2016 2:26 PM  

Well, I still have my FB account. But I just joined WeMe.com. So far I know nobody there, but, what the hell? :D

Blogger Danby January 25, 2016 2:28 PM  

I've had a look at MeWe, and it seems to mostly have the kinds of guarantees we want, except they do have a clause about "harmful" content in their terms of service.

I've created a VFM interest group at https://mewe.com/join/VFM. Please join if you have an account and we'll see how it goes. I'm looking for co-moderators, because honestly, if it's left to me alone I will lose interest in a week or two and it will die. Know your weaknesses and all that.

Blogger endwatcher January 25, 2016 2:48 PM  

Facebook's biggest supporters are women. You would have to find the wedge between them and it. My wife agrees with a lot of what is said here, but she won't leave facebook. It is higher than their personal beliefs.

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 2:55 PM  

@123, "Jon...why would I be a target of Facebook? I'm not a bigot nor a harasser like those banned."

Oh, yes you are. You just don't know it yet because higher value targets still exist. Soon enough the commissars will run out of kulaks, and then they'll come looking for you. It's part of the cycle of history that the illiterati pretends doesn't exist.

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 2:59 PM  

@122, "My only sticking point is the feeling that we are leaving possible allies behind."

So let them - the ones who don't see as clearly as we do - let them play the role of harassers. They will get run out of Facebook sooner or later, and when they do, they'll be searching for answers.

At that point, we will be waiting to welcome them with open arms. If we spend less time trying to hold lost ground and more time building stronger bastions of liberty, it will be all the easier for them to find us.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 25, 2016 3:08 PM  

@ Jon M

Thank you, +1,000 clappaclappaclappa!!!

Greunner, the number of delusional "Goodthinkerz" like yourself both low and high IQ I've run across is breath-taking. You need to watch the Cheka movie, study up bolshevism and maoism. If you are intelligentsia, you're already on the list.

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 3:22 PM  

"Oh, yes you are. You just don't know it yet because higher value targets still exist. Soon enough the commissars will run out of kulaks, and then they'll come looking for you"

I want what you are smoking, Jon. You just can't fathom that FB doesn't want to be the platform where people like those on this site go around posting comments about "sand niggers" and suggesting that refugees be beat up for no other reason than they think their refugee status requires it.

No one is coming for me. Act civil and you too will be left alone.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 3:29 PM  

So @130 Greunner your definition of 'civil' is welcome the rapist?

Good to know.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 3:29 PM  

Oh, and btw, you might want to look the word 'civil' up. It may contain some surprises for your pea brain. Actual definitions usually do for your sort.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:43 PM  

It is really so sad that this is happening … because of YOU PEOPLE. :(

What this girl is saying is true. People tell me I'm too negative, right before they tell molested teenagers to "grow up".

Nuke the planet, Aeoli 2016.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:44 PM  

@130 Greunner,

No one is coming for me.

Post your real name then.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:47 PM  

Don't worry, you've been civil. So you have nothing to fear by posting your real name.

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 3:50 PM  

Escoffier,

Rapist??? You too have a source of good drugs, because you are high. Just don't be a public harasser and bigot and you will be fine.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:50 PM  

Post your real name. You've been so civil, nothing will happen.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 3:54 PM  

"Post your real name."


My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 3:55 PM  

@83 Gaiseric

Did you not see the Google ad on New Year's Eve, right before the ball dropped?

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Was that when the google search page was in arabic or some such language? Whenever they did that was the last time I used it. Been using Duckduckgo since, but will check out this new one lxquick

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 3:57 PM  

Nice try Greunner, what is it the young German ladies in question fear? Salty talk on Facebook? I don't think so and yet they've been silenced. How precisely were the young ladies above uncivil Greunner?

I'll wait...

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 4:00 PM  

@87 YIH
Speaking of Twitter...
Rats, sinking ship, you know the drill.
---
"In his tweet, Dorsey did note that Brian "Skip" Schipper, the vice president of human resources, would also be leaving the company."

This particular rat is probably behind a lot of SJW horseshit that is destroying the place. And of course, he's bailing. The damage is done. Find a new host to destroy.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 4:06 PM  

@97 sigbouncer

In the fact that they think when they post on a facebook that they took a shit at 9am, that anyone really cares. A total waste of time.
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But you have to admit, it is a little entertaining when they post a vid of an "immigrant" taking a dump in a train somewhere at 9am rush hour.

Anonymous Epstein's Love Boat January 25, 2016 4:07 PM  

Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I always suspect... EtR

It's called possibilities.
It is impossible for one to be "paranoid" when we know for a fact the Gov/Corps/Globalists are Liars. Everything they do and say is a Lie and based on a history and foundation of lies.
The history of the world is a history of people conspiring together to bring about certain results. The only questions to uncover is who has done what and how and why, and what has it produced versus what existed before?
What we damn well know for sure is that they are liars and control the flow of information, so possibilities are an essential part of figuring it all out. When what they tell us is damn well Impossible, then we are left with questions about Truth, and inherent in that quest are possibilities.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 4:11 PM  

One little jab and he runs off. Chickenshit.

Anonymous DT January 25, 2016 4:15 PM  

Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg said hate speech "has no place in our society", including in the Internet.

Funny. I would classify "you shall accept so many immigrants that it destroys your culture and nation" as hate speech.

I also find myself wondering how many Islamist and jihadist groups have been banned. Obviously all of them if they've moved on to non-violent debates like GamerGate. Right? Right???

I would seriously consider coding a Fraudbook replacement that embraces freedom of speech and end user privacy from tracking/data collection except without the cash for servers, legal, staff, etc. it can't go any where. At this rate though, I'm sure at some point a replacement will come.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 4:16 PM  

@142 Were-Puppy

"But you have to admit, it is a little entertaining when they post a vid of an "immigrant" taking a dump in a train somewhere at 9am rush hour."

Have to take your word for it as I've never done facebook. I could probably get the gist of it by watching pooh flinging monkeys on Discovery. But I digress.

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 4:21 PM  

@130, Greunner, I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to help you. Believe me when I say that it brings me no joy to see your fate, and know that you won't heed the warning.

The apparatchiks always think that "it could never happen to me," until it does. When it does, you won't have anyone to call on for help, because you helped drive off everyone who was willing to fight that battle. You will find yourself alone, wondering where it all went wrong, and how you could have been a more loyal member of the Party.

What sucks about the cycle of history is that you won't remember this conversation. You won't learn from the experience. You won't even blame the bastards that stabbed you in the face. Instead, you'll double down on the groupthink, confess to any sin, and publically flagellate yourself in a desperate attempt to purge yourself of badthink.

A lot of people here will bask in the schadenfreude of that, but easily avoided tragedies never cheer my heart. I always mourn for what could have been if only people like you
weren't
so
very
stupid.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 4:22 PM  

@120 James Dixon

Jim Lynch wrote an article about this and recommended Ello.
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I just realized another front in the war. I went to the first link you posted, and it was flagged as "Dangerous Website Blocked" by Norton. I'm sure if I check why it's blocked, it will be a bunch of crybaby whiner SJWs snotgobbling over waaascism or some such crap.

Blogger Anonymous Robot January 25, 2016 4:24 PM  

Act civil and you too will be left alone.

I guess you have no problem with German women being sexually assaulted then.

Nice to know.

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 4:25 PM  

Just for shits and giggles DT what would it cost to fund this hypothetical Liberty Book?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 4:25 PM  

Ok, I was wrong. this is the norton report. All I see is "annoyance factor" 1. WTF?
Annoyance factor?

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 4:36 PM  

@147 Jon M,

Greunner, I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to help you.

...

A lot of people here will bask in the schadenfreude of that, but easily avoided tragedies never cheer my heart. I always mourn for what could have been if only people like you
weren't
so
very
stupid.


It's not stupidity, he's acting in perfect accordance with his nature. Your ignorance is forgivable for now, but you have earned yourself a reading assignment.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2016 4:39 PM  

> No one is coming for me. Act civil and you too will be left alone.

It will be a pleasure to watch if I'm still around when you find out you were wrong.

Blogger Neanderserk January 25, 2016 4:40 PM  

#DeFacebook

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 4:41 PM  

"I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to help you. Believe me when I say that it brings me no joy to see your fate"

Jon, you want to do me a favor and help? Then tell me where interest rates will be 2 years from now as well as the S&P. No, scratch that. Your statements of whT is to come haven't had anything like explanations. Unless of course you are clairvoyant.

It must be that because if you are reading FB's desire not to host racist rants and the hysterical claimed of little girls as signaling some sort of apocalypse then it must be clairvoyance because it's nonsensical in every other respect.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 4:46 PM  

Post your real name Greunner. Act civil and you will be left alone.

Chickenshit.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2016 5:06 PM  

"Act civil and you too will be left alone."

So you're erasing me? And you think you're acting civil? That's violence and GENOCIDE!

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 5:09 PM  

...people like those on this site go around posting comments about "sand niggers"...

*Waves*

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 5:12 PM  

@152, Thank you for the suggested reading. I'm up on it. Whatever the reason for his actions, his actions are stupid and ignorant.

@155, It ain't magic, it's history. And it's coming back around again.

You want an explanation? I can point out the watering hole, but you'll have to drink from it yourself. Crack open Orwell's 1984 and mentally replace every instance of "Winston Smith" with "Greunner". That is your fate.

Sic semper SJWs.

Anonymous DT January 25, 2016 5:13 PM  

Just for shits and giggles DT what would it cost to fund this hypothetical Liberty Book?

To be clear, my off handed comment was more about the following point: on their current trajectory Facebook will put their natural monopoly position as the popular "my page" social media site in jeopardy. And an opportunity will arise for a competitor who respects end user speech and privacy. That doesn't guarantee a competitor will arise or succeed. But don't think for a minute that Facebook couldn't piss off enough users to seal their own fate.

I foresee the same possibility with Twitter.

Either one could quickly squash any such risk by adopting some sensible policies and sticking to them. But I imagine both companies are SJW infested.

That said...

Honestly, with some time I could come up with a decent blueprint and estimate for a team to code the core web application. Facebook isn't doing that much in terms of end user visible features. The complexity is in code that scales out to large server farms and 1.55 billion "monthly active users" (3rd quarter 2015). That and security. (Though this was laughably non-existent in the early days of Facebook when simple cookie and parameter tricks could get private photos or even reset passwords and steal accounts.)

The stuff I would have no idea how to plan or estimate would be the surrounding / supporting business. A Facebook replacement is not going to start in a garage with two kids and a used Dell server on FIOS. Management, legal, customer support, advertising...what is the smallest core you could start up with? Answering that question requires answering questions about business goals, revenue streams...a reasonable plan of attack to carve out a profitable niche. You've got me on those points of a plan.

Blogger Lovekraft January 25, 2016 5:16 PM  

And the more the elites stifle open debate, the more they will suffer in the end.

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 5:18 PM  

Jon,
If you can't offer a simple explanation for something you guarantee is soon upon us, then it's nothing more than BS, unsubstantiated claims. When I make claims, I have reasons for them. All you have is Nostodamas.

Anonymous Greunner January 25, 2016 5:21 PM  

Love raft, it's no debate being stifled when you require that your users not run around posting about "sand niggers". It's just acting like a proper corporate citizen and good business.

Anonymous VFM #π January 25, 2016 5:25 PM  

Does anybody here have a working installer for Brave for Windows 10 x64? I couldn't compile it. I admit Git not being my forte. We should start distributing those things.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 25, 2016 5:32 PM  

Greunnercomments about "sand niggers" and suggesting that refugees be beat up for no other reason than they think their refugee status requires it

At least look at the videos of sand niggers gang raping women in Cologne on New Years Eve before you say people fight back against them for no reason. Oh wait facebook and youtube keep deleting it.

No one is coming for me. Act civil and you too will be left alone

The best part is knowing his last words will probably be Not All ____ Are Like That. Like the gay stabbed to death by a coked up black on a 7-4-2015 DC train, with no one willing to help him. Please don't flee die verse city when the food stamp card fails.
"george strong ‏@georgestrong555 · 6 Jul 2015
@KevinSutherland But I defended blacks on the internet, said K. Sutherland, famous last words lol. Got what he deserved. Libtards.

BigGaySteve ‏@BigGaySteveC · 11 Jul 2015
@georgestrong555 @KevinSutherland Actually he said "Not All Blacks Are Like That"

You too have a source of good drugs, because you are high.

When moslems stone gays to death they use real stones. German Trannys got attacked by moslems 2 weeks ago.

Then tell me where interest rates will be 2 years from now as well as the S&P.

When the dollar lost 25% of its value in Bath house Barry Obama's 1st term, and $10 worth of quarters (40 of them) if they are from before 1965 have a smelted down value of ~$180, what does the interest rate matter?

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 5:36 PM  

At least look at the videos of sand niggers gang raping women in Cologne on New Years Eve before you say people fight back against them for no reason. Oh wait facebook and youtube keep deleting it.

You must be mistaken, because no one is stifling debate. That would be a crazy conspiracy theory.

Blogger The Raven January 25, 2016 5:46 PM  

Unsurprising, Facebook is owned and run by the Zionist mafia, they are censoring all anti-immigration pages & posts so it's a given that GamerGate gets the boot too

Blogger Escoffier January 25, 2016 5:49 PM  

@ #164

I could use the exact same thing and I have a Windows phone as well. Any help would be appreciated.

Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 5:53 PM  

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Blogger Jon M January 25, 2016 6:00 PM  

@162: Greunner, I pointed to the water. Knowing you're too blind to see it and too dense to understand it, I even pointed to the shallow end. You respond by admitting that to you this sufficiently advanced technology (meaning books) is like unto magic. Yet you cling to your delusions of adequacy. Hilarious.

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident January 25, 2016 6:20 PM  

Xenophobia isn't gonna kill us. Pathological xenophilia will.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 25, 2016 6:25 PM  

@107 They can also jigger it up by corrupting the communications links, which you'll notice the major ISPs do to utilities like BitTorrent.

@112 I'm hazy on details, but does being logged into Facebook allow Facebook to track what you do elsewhere?  I used to notice Facebook cookies being dropped on my browser even when I've never had an account, so I blocked it at the IP resolution level.  If Facebook can track all your browsing history just by being logged in, you need not just to cancel your account but block all routes to it.

@119 That, plus the expiration of the copyright on a certain book, is bound to get a whole bunch of panties into very painful twists.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 25, 2016 6:27 PM  

@164 And when "muslim" is banned in reference to any criminal or hostile act, what then?

This is already the de-facto state in GB, where the media use "asian".  Faceborg is engineering detectors for Crimethink and acting against it.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 6:45 PM  

Selective engagement suggests self-aware agent provocateur. Interdasting.

Speculative analysis time. (Many of these will be incorrect.)

"Nostodamus" misspelling suggests middling IQ, rushed, or careless.

Punctuation suggests neurotypical.

Late to the party but not a typical VP reader. Suggests he was redirected here by a link.

"Googla" misspelling also suggests careless, rushed, and/or middling IQ. Likely all three.

First in thread to use the term "sand niggers", then accuses others of this. Psychological projection, likely a racist. Therefore likely a leftist.

Extremely neurotypical rhetorical style. Definitely not on the spectrum. (We know our own.)

Relentless support of common sense-style authoritarianism.

"Responsible corporate citizen". Interesting...reads social science books or maybe a recent college graduate. Revise IQ up to 115 range, likely a millenial.

"When I make claims, I have reasons for them." Pride in unremarkable intellect. Definitely college material.

"That's not how they or any other casual observer of social media sees it. They are an advertising platform." Curious non sequitur. Casual observers of social media do not think "advertising platform". Young. Verbal intelligence preference.

Blogger Warren Abox January 25, 2016 6:56 PM  

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Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 6:58 PM  

In summary, Greunner is a young leftist with an IQ of perhaps 120, leaning verbal. Almost certainly male.

Final opinion: basic bitch hate-reader.

Anonymous VFM #π January 25, 2016 7:18 PM  

I wouldn't give him such high IQ. He is most certainly not STEM material, most likely some "studies" graduate. Not hard to graduate on such colleges.

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 7:21 PM  

My only sticking point is the feeling that we are leaving possible allies behind.

So what. The key word is "potential". They are not allies. So, they are useless. Forget them.

It's just acting like a proper corporate citizen and good business.

No, it's not. See: Twitter. That's why Facebook didn't act this way when it was growing and preparing to go public.

"When I make claims, I have reasons for them."

So does everyone. Aeoli, you need to revise your IQ estimate down. 110 at best.

Blogger Danby January 25, 2016 8:24 PM  

@172 Mr. Rational
I'm hazy on details, but does being logged into Facebook allow Facebook to track what you do elsewhere? I used to notice Facebook cookies being dropped on my browser even when I've never had an account, so I blocked it at the IP resolution level.

Ever see those ubiquitous facebook "like me" links? They all load from facebook. So facebook knows every time you load a page with one on it.

Every Time.

you've done the best thing, which is to block any access at all to facebook servers. Keep in mind that they are probably collecting data under other domain names besides facebook.com. Anybody have a list?

Come to think of it, a browser plug-in that would simply block cookies for specific domains would be pretty popular. I know Mozilla has nothing like that. Any coders interested?

Blogger Neanderserk January 25, 2016 9:01 PM  

Shouldn't we be estimating people's verbal IQs for these sorts of discussions? It hardly matters how good he is at math; immigration involves nothing more than addition and percentages.

Or is it assumed we're talking about verbal?

Blogger Neanderserk January 25, 2016 9:05 PM  

Because that is certainly a faulty assumption when talking about how many standard deviations Vox has. So comparing apples to oranges would tend to understate the relevant difference.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 25, 2016 9:52 PM  

In summary, Greunner is a young leftist with an IQ of perhaps 120, leaning verbal. Almost certainly male. Final opinion: basic bitch hate-reader.

@174(We know our own.)


I would say Greunner has had sex with over 100 men, he is a bottom, would rather be a victim than admit a black attacked him & he drinks apple martinis. I hope he doesn't start trolling at gaypatroit. Greunner is your name Chris Wolfe?

Anonymous Danby January 25, 2016 10:12 PM  

@BGKB I think you mean over 9000 men.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 25, 2016 10:53 PM  

@179 a browser plug-in that would simply block cookies for specific domains would be pretty popular.

It used to be built into Firefox.  Guess why it was removed?

I also have "addthis.com" and other sites which provide useless tool/spying bars null-routed.  Saves on page loading time too.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2016 11:42 PM  

@179 Danby
Come to think of it, a browser plug-in that would simply block cookies for specific domains would be pretty popular. I know Mozilla has nothing like that. Any coders interested?
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In Ghostery (browser extension) I have it turned off for Facebook Connnect and Facebook Graph. I'm not sure if there are others, but if it has facebook in it, I turn it off.

Blogger dfordoom January 26, 2016 3:20 AM  

@9. dlstacy

The geniuses at FB are going to end up driving everyone to 8chan. What then?

The geniuses at FB know that they'll drive a few hundred, or at most a few thousand, users away. Then they'll be left with only a billion or so users. Even if these actions drive a million users away (which is incredibly unlikely), Facebook won't even notice. In fact they'll be delighted. At the cost of losing a miniscule number of users, they'll have an entirely SJW-dominated empire.

You have to remember that it isn't necessary to silence dissent. All that is necessary is to ensure that dissenting voices don't get heard. A handful of dissenters on a few obscure sites can simply be ignored.

To threaten Facebook with the loss of a tiny handful of conservative users is beyond futile. For dissenting conservatives to huddle in a handful of tiny conservative online echo chambers means admitting final and absolute defeat in the Culture Wars.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 26, 2016 4:18 AM  

Aeoli, you need to revise your IQ estimate down. 110 at best.

Alas, this is probably true. Koanic has pointed out that I tend to elevate estimates for alien cognitive styles. I was giving extra points for self-control and basic reading comprehension, for which I'd generally award a 130 score (because REASONS).

Anonymous Euryale January 26, 2016 7:33 AM  

Elite Austrian skydiver Felix Baumgartner FB-posted truth on the invasion 3h ago.

Anonymous A Visitor January 26, 2016 10:33 AM  

@188 What did he say?

Blogger Unknown January 26, 2016 11:22 AM  

It's sad that there aren't any good alternatives to Facebook (at least not ones I am aware of).

Google supports mass immigration and Google of course owns Blogger & Google+.

Blogger Unknown January 26, 2016 11:26 AM  

Should people use Google-owned Blogger?

Blogger JCclimber January 26, 2016 8:56 PM  

Started to work on removing all my info from Facebook. A few discoveries:
A number of my friends have already quit FB.
A large number of my friends are trying to convince me to stay, and then concede that they also are considering leaving.
Been on that thing for 10 years now. History to purge. Glad I haven't been using it much the last few years except as a tool to publicize events.
Took the FB app off my iPhone 2 months ago, it has probably saved me 10 minutes per day. That's over 1 hour per week that I can use for more productive things.
My friend who got me on it in 2006 was one of the first 30 employees, and he really doesn't want me to leave it. He, by the way, is quite transparent in his FB posts that he can't decide between Hilary and Bernie. So you see an example of FB employee mindset.

I really need an alternate way that is simple and quick to keep in contact with my many contacts and friends. Beyond just email, if possible.

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