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Thursday, January 14, 2016

Mailvox: lessons in rhetoric

MJ suggests a rhetorical device:
I thought of something while last night about the immigration crisis in Europe.  We should start calling it Vichy Germany (probably could say Vichy Europe, but I feel like Vichy Germany would have more impact for most).  Merkel is acting like Germany is a Client State to the Muslim world.  They allow an occupying invasion force to abuse their own people.  They cover up Muslim crimes and avoid arresting and/or deporting known criminals that are Muslim.  They arrest the German Resistance fighters who have risen up to fight the Muslim occupiers. Multicultism is propaganda to berate the native population into submission to the occupying force.

I don't know what the occupier-to-populace ratio was in Vichy France, but it seems like it probably is similar to the Muslim-to-German ratio in Germany right now.  Anyways, I thought of this last night and thought that you would probably be able to use it as a rhetorical device.
Unfortunately, "Vichy Germany" is not going to work rhetorically for the following reasons:
  1. It is fundamentally dialectic in nature. Anything that has to be explained is more likely to be rhetorically impotent. How many Americans or English adults even know what "Vichy" means?
  2. It doesn't flow. That's always important.
  3. It doesn't move the emotions. No one has any emotions about Vichy France, except perhaps the French.
Now, if the Front National began referring to the two mainstream French parties that have banded together to stop it as "L'Alliance Vichy", that would be effective rhetoric. But it's not going to work in the Anglosphere because the concept of Vichy is only really applicable to the French.

Contrast with "Vichy Germany" the rhetorical device of "Invader-American". This is effective due to the following reasons:
  1. It flows.
  2. It directly targets the hyphenated identity of the various New Americans: Chinese-Americans, African-Americans, Indian-Americans, and so forth.
  3. It works directly upon the emotions. Immigrants get very upset at being called invaders, even though that is what they are. The term also links the children of the invaders to the invasion, depriving them of the ability to wrap themselves in an American sheepskin simply because they were born inside its borders. There is a reason Nimrata Randhawa Haley prefers to be called "Nikki"; it allows her to pass for something she observably is not.
And, of course, the term is quite literally true. Remember, the best rhetoric has a sound foundation in the truth. The children of those who invaded America are Invader-Americans and as such, they are distinct from native Americans... as well as Native Americans.

Ann Coulter is an expert rhetorician. It would behoove her to adopt the Invader-American term, as it would be extremely effective for her. Notice how she managed to trigger the cuckservatives of the GOP establishment with a single tweet.
    Trump should deport Nikki Haley.
    — Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 13, 2016

    Nikki Haley: "No one who is willing to work hard should ever be turned away." That's the definition of open borders.
    — Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 13, 2016

    Nikki Haley says "welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of religion." Translation: let in all the Muslims.
    — Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 13, 2016

    Haley: Let in unlimited immigrants "just like we have for centuries." Has she read a history book? Coolidge shut it down for 1/2 a century.
    — Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 13, 2016

    Nikki Haley: "The best thing we can do is turn down the volume" Translation: Voters need to shut the hell up.
    — Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 13, 2016

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136 Comments:

Blogger Phillip George January 14, 2016 5:40 AM  

Welfare shoppers.

contrast Davy Crockett's speech to Congress against welfare: "Not yours to give"

The reason leftists are so fond of Islam is Muhammadan stealing is nearly identical to their own. Britain and the US created Navies largely in direct response to thieves of the sea, slavers, deadly piracy.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 14, 2016 5:41 AM  

"Burkha Stasi"?

"Kebob Cheka/KBG"?

"Salaam Stasi"?

"Jihad Groupies"?

"Levant lugenpresse"?


I got nothing.

Blogger Phillip George January 14, 2016 5:42 AM  

I have it on good left wing authority that the bombs going off in Jakarta are unrelated to Islam, which is the 'only' religion of peace we can reference.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 14, 2016 5:43 AM  

Invader-American is close but I would suggest the following refinement.

Conquistador-American

Admittedly it wouldn't apply to Muslims but they aren't as big of problem here yet. It has negative connotations for Anglo descended Americans.

Better still La Raza types might actually embrace it.

Blogger Sherwood family January 14, 2016 5:52 AM  

It is amazing how little people actually check the facts. That line about "just like we have for centuries" is so wrong and so easy to check and yet that really is the public perception. It's the "Big Lie" in action. Shaming people for their ignorance does not seem to work these days but pointing out that Nimrata Randhawa Haley must not be an authentic American if she could so easily misunderstand U.S. history would be a good start.

Blogger Rantor January 14, 2016 6:09 AM  

I've been using immvader and rapefugee on Twitter... Invader-American works too, just a tad long for the Twitterverse, but if it catches on, fine. I do like the Vichy idea, but, Vox is right, the youth won't get it. I like the idea of calling immigration opponents The Resistance. Sounds noble.

Blogger Rantor January 14, 2016 6:13 AM  

@Sherwood, yes, I immediately recognized the governor's lies about immigration, I fear many did not

Blogger VD January 14, 2016 6:15 AM  

Conquistador-American

Doesn't work. Same reasons. No flow, no emotional content. In fact, conquistador actually sounds kind of cool.

For the Nth time, rhetoric is not about how well something logically or historically applies. That's the FINAL step, not the first one.

Blogger Mister Mystery January 14, 2016 6:22 AM  

Coulter is brilliant. Cuckservatives all over Twitter were triggered by her tweets, esp. the call for deportation. It also helps that she is very verbally gifted, unlike Donald Trump.

Blogger Mister Mystery January 14, 2016 6:30 AM  

I wonder what you think of the 'White Genocide' term/meme? I think it is ridiculous and rhetorically ineffective (even counterproductive) and always leads to semantical arguments about the word genocide, thus derailing the conversation. People associate it with paranoia and take what you have to say less seriously.

People think of 'mass-murder' when you say genocide and no amount of citing UN official definitions will change that. Also, it seems to indicate some other race is carrying out this 'genocide.' While there is (a lot? of) outside influence involved, it is mostly the euro elites in power allowing and accelerating this.

I prefer referring to it as invasion/replacement/displacement/dispossesion etc.

Perhaps you can write a separate post about it. I keep telling people to stop using it.

Blogger VD January 14, 2016 6:35 AM  

I wonder what you think of the 'White Genocide' term/meme?

It's stupid. It's usually used by the same idiots who think they're going to rhetorically reclaim the good name of Nazism.

I keep telling people to stop using it.

That's stupid too. When do you see me tell anyone what they should or should not say? Introduce better rhetoric, let them see it is effective, and lead by example. You aren't the meme police, so stop nagging.

OpenID simplytimothy January 14, 2016 6:49 AM  

Das deutsche Volk braucht eine sprachliche Kill Shot

Scott Adams has some principles I have been jotting down....

Properties of a Linguistic Kill shot:

Words describing a person (Jeb bush is low-energy, Carly fiorina is a robot, Ben Carson is nice)
1. ordinary words we haven't heard in the present context before.
2. virginal words that he can use the way he wants; the words don't have a lot of baggage to them
3. perfectly fit what we are already thinking about these people.
4. they are not random insults
5. Once you hear them you can never get them out of your mind.


"Cuckservative" is a linguistic kill shot. Just try to get it out of your mind. You cannot. It is tagged to the cuckservatives forever. It will go down in history.


in the field of persuasion (i.e rhetoric) , the ranking of power looks like this:

1. Identity always beats analogy.
2. Analogy always beats reason.


i.e. "Jeb Bush is low energy" vs "Jeb Bush is like a turtle"

(there may be more principles that I haven't noted)

From these, there might be a method to construct a LKS. My guess is to start with the unvoiced things Germans are thinking.





Anonymous 27 year old January 14, 2016 6:49 AM  

i think white genocide is a great meme, but my people are the ones getting genocided so obviously i'm not that bright

Blogger Sean January 14, 2016 6:55 AM  

I like to refer to the ongoing project to colonise the UK with Pakistanis and Africans as "Operation Vortigern".


Anonymous Euryale January 14, 2016 7:04 AM  

Testing rhetorical bombs in the field as we speak.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral January 14, 2016 7:08 AM  

"Cuckservative" is a linguistic kill shot. Just try to get it out of your mind.

It's an Ear Worm

Anonymous No January 14, 2016 7:10 AM  

Rapetoberfest and Rapist-Americans also work.

Blogger Sherwood family January 14, 2016 7:11 AM  

Let me see if this works: Nimrata Randhawa Haley is an Amnesty-American and Ann Coulter an Actual-American, or maybe Authentic-American. It has some flow and is identity rather than analogy. But I think I'll leave the rhetoric to someone whose pay-grade is higher than mine.

Blogger Sherwood family January 14, 2016 7:12 AM  

Okay, Rapetoberfest is pretty awesome as a meme.

Blogger S1AL January 14, 2016 7:22 AM  

Anchor-American.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 14, 2016 7:22 AM  

The test is if it is effective, not if we think it is stupid or not.

Trace white genocide back to Bob Whitaker, laugh if you want but his Mantra and the Mantra shorts along with "Anti-racist Hitler" basically did in the fraud of anti-racism. Now they are basically anti-white, and convincing themselves they have the numbers to dominate.

"White genocide" might be a stupid rhetorical phrase, but maybe it will replace another stupid word "racist" which somehow thru serious consistent repetition became a magic word.

Anonymous Euryale January 14, 2016 7:22 AM  

See here how it's done, folks. Validated by @ChrisNahr

bit.ly/1ZYACZx

Next step: condensing it all to one hashtag.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 14, 2016 7:27 AM  

Did Austrians have a term for their people who were in favor of Naxi Germany taking over?

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 14, 2016 7:27 AM  

Did Austrians have a term for their people who were in favor of Naxi Germany taking over?

Anonymous karsten January 14, 2016 7:30 AM  

"That's stupid too. When do you see me tell anyone what they should or should not say? Introduce better rhetoric, let them see it is effective, and lead by example. You aren't the meme police, so stop nagging."

Thank you.

Anonymous ziggy January 14, 2016 7:31 AM  

I saw recently that Jürgen Elsässer's magazine Compact, which has been on this beat for years now and is definitely worth checking out - https://www.compact-online.de/ - has referred to "Merkels Invasoren", "Merkel's Invaders", and I have been using "Merkel's Marauders", a phrase that might have legs

Blogger Ahazuerus January 14, 2016 7:33 AM  

RT reports on "Sons of Odin" - neighbourhood watch group (I'm sure the press will call them vigilantes) patrolling Finnish streets:

http://www.rt.com/news/328851-finland-soldiers-odin-migrant-patrol/

Blogger Nate January 14, 2016 7:35 AM  

The concept of a servant state is good... its the language used to communicate that idea that is the issue.

In the west the closest thing I can think would be Occupied Germany.. Occupied France... Occupied Europe.

Blogger Josh January 14, 2016 7:38 AM  


It's stupid. It's usually used by the same idiots who think they're going to rhetorically reclaim the good name of Nazism.

They're going to Make Nazism Great Again!

Blogger Josh January 14, 2016 7:41 AM  

The test is if it is effective, not if we think it is stupid or not.

It's not effective

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 14, 2016 7:42 AM  

Doing som googling I found this:

Historian William L. Shirer, for example, in his best-selling book, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, refers to the 1938 union as the "Rape of Austria."

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 14, 2016 7:43 AM  

Would Germans understand Greater Immigrant Reich?

Anonymous Opus January 14, 2016 7:51 AM  

Vox is right, though for me Vichy Germany resonates and is accurate. If it is too confusing or obscure something with the word Stasi in would be good (or is that also too obscure).

Not being American I am not really up with your history of immigration - though it is perhaps worth observing that pre-1776 Americans thought of themselves as English who merely lived over the Sea, as subjects of The King, thereafter The Lord Protector and then The King again.

It thus infuriates me that in England sixteen year olds are now to be taught that North Africans were here courtesy of the Romans - some distinguished historians have protested: even if there were Legions stationed on Hadrian's Wall from Africa, that does not mean that they bred with the natives, were permenantly here and in any number or more importantly Black (I am damn sure they weren't! - anymore than two other "Africans" Hannibal Barca or Cleopatra were anything other than White). As I understand it genetic tests find the greatest of ethnic unity - Celtic - throughout the British Isles and no hint of Negro - not by the way that I believe for one minute that we are 'Out of Africa' - the idea is demonstrably absurd, and one does not have to be a literal reader of the Bible which I am not to observe that inevitable fact.

Blogger Booch Paradise January 14, 2016 7:56 AM  

Not exactly the same but you could say Germany is enjoying pax islama.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 14, 2016 7:56 AM  

The Greater South Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

But really, #rapefugee is way ahead of anything else used thus far.

Blogger dienw January 14, 2016 7:59 AM  

For the Germans as they would get the very feeling in their guilt ridden bones: Islamic-Lebensraum.
However "islamischlebensraum" or "Eindringlinglebensraum" just doesn't have the kick.

German lacks the kick of the short Anglo-Saxon words.

Blogger Chrom January 14, 2016 7:59 AM  

Vergewaltigrant.

Anonymous Euryale January 14, 2016 8:10 AM  

#MerkelSStan

Blogger Rusty Fife January 14, 2016 8:12 AM  

@4. Cataline Sergius

Invader-American is close but I would suggest the following refinement.

Conquistador-American


Here in Interno del Norte, our problem isn't our Latin (endemic) or African (too few) brethren . It is the Yankee and Californian invaders like George Rape Rape Martin in Sante Fe. That guy needs to be deported back to Jersey along with the Georgia "Where's Waldo of the Vag" O'Keefe art collection.

I am coming around to the idea that the US is an empire; I can see the nations: Alto California, Greater Texas, Old South, and Yankeeland. My short stays in NC, TN, KY, MO and likewise; have shown me how disimilar the are to to SC, AL, MS, LA, GA. I'm not sure if they belong in Yankeeland or the Old South.

Anonymous Joe Blowe January 14, 2016 8:17 AM  

Also, it seems to indicate some other race is carrying out this 'genocide.'


The Jewish Bolsheviks that genocided Christian Russia didn't consider themselves White.

Anonymous foo1 January 14, 2016 8:19 AM  

> here is a reason Nimrata Randhawa Haley prefers to be called "Nikki"; it
> allows her to pass for something she observably is not.

She is observably and most decidedly a swastika/shubhtika using Aryan and Nimrata is a Aryan name (and so are the common Indian names, the quintessential and most famous being Aryan God of war 'Arjen/Arjun' and his cousin 'Ki(e)ran').

Being Indo-European, 'Arjen' also happens to be a Dutch name.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 14, 2016 8:19 AM  

For a native German, I do believe "islamischlebensraum" would carry a good kick. Maybe not killer, but a good hard steel-toed boot to the kidney, at least.

Blogger Rantor January 14, 2016 8:19 AM  

I am partial to Resistance as a name for the Alt-Right on this. Although the Sons of Odin have cool leather jackets.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 14, 2016 8:22 AM  

@39 "NC, TN, KY, MO"

They belong in "Greater Appalachia" GA also includes the Piney Woods areas of Texas and Louisiana.

Blogger Dago January 14, 2016 8:27 AM  

Islamimst need living space in Germany. No flow or sense in the Anglo sphere...but i bet it would twitch a few Germans

Anonymous Jonathan January 14, 2016 8:28 AM  

Nimrod Haley

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau January 14, 2016 8:29 AM  

PEGIDA should adopt as it's symbol " die Weiße Rose".

Blogger FALPhil January 14, 2016 8:33 AM  

@39 My short stays in NC, TN, KY, MO and likewise; have shown me how disimilar the are to to SC, AL, MS, LA, GA. I'm not sure if they belong in Yankeeland or the Old South.

South Carolina is different from every other state. Sometimes I wonder if they are even Southern.

Anonymous Peter Garstig January 14, 2016 8:37 AM  

I call them Jihad Cowboys. Usually infuriates the SJW or shuts them up. Native Americans and open borders is a gigantic hammer for the SJW and the Gutmenschen. You know, not all Cowboys were bad, most only wanted to settle.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau January 14, 2016 8:37 AM  

@39 Most of the people living in Charlotte since the 1990's are from Buffalo and New England. They sold their overpriced Shacks in Boston for several hundred thousand dollars and bought Bigger homes for $150K or less and live off the rest of their largesse.

At Panthers/Bills games there are more Buffalo fans than Carolina.

OpenID simplytimothy January 14, 2016 9:00 AM  

Formulating effective rhetoric won't help if it is not deployed and verified.
How do we freemen in America help disseminate it to Germany?

Blogger Student in Blue January 14, 2016 9:07 AM  

Most people I see effectively using rhetoric don't carefully, carefully craft out the very best one and use that all the time - they throw out a handful of stuff they think is good, see which one sticks the best (i.e. which one they complain about the loudest and longest), and goes on from there.

That's where cuckservative came from, after all.

Anonymous Euryale January 14, 2016 9:10 AM  

Grab a spear and come over here
bit.ly/1ZYACZx

Anonymous Ryan January 14, 2016 9:18 AM  

Jihad Invaders

Anonymous Rona January 14, 2016 9:24 AM  

Anchor-American is stupid. It gives the opposite image of what you're trying to convey.

Invader-American is perfect.

White Genocide is useless. Perfectly true and completely useless. I used to use it, before understanding the difference between dialectic and rhetoric. I was such a moron, trying to explain to people the definition of genocide by UN and that what is being done to Europeans is genocide. People are idiots. Now I'm trying to "switch" my brain to rhetoric.

The Cargo Cult of White Nationalist "Practical Politics"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2fm5VWEFnQ

See the beginning of this video to understand why White nationalism and white genocide can't work.

Rona

Blogger Page January 14, 2016 9:30 AM  

@44 - re: Georgia and East Texas similarities -

I moved to Georgia from Texas after living all over that state through my life. There was a bigger culture change from Midland to Houston, than there was from Nacogdoches to Atlanta. Much bigger. And forget about San Antonio and the valley.

Blogger ScottD January 14, 2016 9:34 AM  

How about Weimar II?

Anonymous Rona January 14, 2016 9:38 AM  

Thanks Euryale for this link https://deltakyklos.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/dissonance-burnout-in-cuckland-teutonic-sector/

Great stuff.

Rona

Blogger ScottD January 14, 2016 9:38 AM  

Nord Kalifat.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 14, 2016 9:43 AM  

@44

Agreed

@56 Page

Yeah, the culture shift when crossing I-45 is huge. It is impossible to imagine the Valley without Mexicans. Ditto AZ, NM, and CO. It is difficult to imagine SC without their 75% black population either.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 14, 2016 9:45 AM  

@56

The GA I used was to refer to the "Greater Appalachia" I had used earlier in the post, not Georgia. The area of the US primarily settled by Border English and Ulster Scots. The one area of the US where the natives still refer to themselves as "Americans" instead of some hyphenated bastardization. We settled along the Ohio and Tennessee River valleys and west into Texas.

Blogger Student in Blue January 14, 2016 9:46 AM  

I think Jihad is a good basis to start rhetoric from as it's a pretty widespread and understood term that immediately brings to mind ISIS and al-Qaeda.

Blogger Nate January 14, 2016 9:47 AM  

"They belong in "Greater Appalachia" GA also includes the Piney Woods areas of Texas and Louisiana."

The guy that came up with that map is an idiot.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 14, 2016 9:50 AM  

@63

The butthurt is strong in you young Nate. Just because you can't understand the truth of it does not make the man an idiot.

Blogger Student in Blue January 14, 2016 9:50 AM  

The guy that came up with that map is an idiot.

Why's that? The Greater Appalachia part he described fits my area very well.

Anonymous Haxo Angmark January 14, 2016 9:56 AM  

"invader-American" does not work. The second word is the problem. Better:

"invasive ethnics"; or, for those with longer attention spans, "invasive anti-White ethnics" (for example, Nimrata Randhawa Haley)

as to the present case: a Kenyan Muslim delivers the SOTU, a Pakistani Hindu answers and agrees. Not my country anymore. And we are not going to get it back by "voting", or "demonstrating". Fortunately, once the debtPonziconomy collapses, there will be a politics of "other means". For which millions of American Whites (as opposed to, say, disarmed European Whites) are well-prepared

Anonymous George Robbins January 14, 2016 10:19 AM  

Hasn't Vox repeatedly criticized others for referring to him as Theodore Beale? It is strange he would expect people to respect his name but holds no respect for how other people choose to name themselves.

Blogger KooshBaulz January 14, 2016 10:20 AM  

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Blogger Chrom January 14, 2016 10:21 AM  

Angela Burkal.

Anonymous Haxo Angmark January 14, 2016 10:29 AM  

@ 24. Yes. They were called "Austrians". When Hitler came back to Vienna, leading the 1938 Anschluss, he was welcomed as the Prodigal Son Returned by a spontaneous crowd of c. 500,000 ecstatic people: @ www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG0HpQit3Gw

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 10:34 AM  

@6 Rantor

I've been using immvader and rapefugee on Twitter...
--

rapefugee has to be one of the best one's to come out lately

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 10:38 AM  

@20 S1AL

Anchor-American.

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oh, I like that one.
I've been joking around calling Ted Cruz a Canadian Anchor Baby.

Blogger Jourdan January 14, 2016 10:42 AM  

Here is another example of effective rhetoric:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago

United States looks more and more like a paper tiger. Won't be that way if I win!


Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago

Iran humiliated the United States with the capture of our 10 sailors. Horrible pictures & images. We are weak. I will NOT forget!

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 10:46 AM  

@27 Ahazuerus
RT reports on "Sons of Odin"
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Somehow I suspect these guys won't be recruiting for a black Heimdall squad any time soon.

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 10:47 AM  

Which works better in German, Dhimmitschland or just Dhimmiland?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 10:49 AM  

@39 Rusty Fife

My short stays in NC, TN, KY, MO and likewise; have shown me how disimilar the are to to SC, AL, MS, LA, GA. I'm not sure if they belong in Yankeeland or the Old South.
--

What you're encountering is the difference between the South and the Deep South. Florida is considered a part of the Deep South, at least North Florida should still be.

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 10:49 AM  

The great thing about migration jihad is that you don't get shot at, and your soon-to-be-conquered enemy will even pay you to defeat him.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 10:52 AM  

@48 FALPhil

South Carolina is different from every other state. Sometimes I wonder if they are even Southern.
---

I consider it southern. The southern parts of it from Greenville and below seem that way to me. High country anyways.

Blogger Josh January 14, 2016 10:56 AM  

Iran humiliated the United States with the capture of our 10 sailors. Horrible pictures & images. We are weak. I will NOT forget!

The sailors that were returned the next day?

Besides, trump only likes guys who aren't captured.

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 10:59 AM  

The funny thing is, these Migration Jihadists aren't even trying to hide their intent to change Europe instead of the other way around. They're wolves in wolves' clothing, and the Europeans are just standing there. Even sheep have more sense.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 10:59 AM  

@52 Student in Blue

Most people I see effectively using rhetoric don't carefully, carefully craft out the very best one and use that all the time - they throw out a handful of stuff they think is good, see which one sticks the best (i.e. which one they complain about the loudest and longest), and goes on from there.
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That's the way I've been doing it. It's a challenge to come up with a variety of things, but it's fun when you see any of them start to stick. I think of it as practicing rhetoric.

The only one I thought of yesterday was actually from a Trump stutter, where he said "Nikki Hair" - it's funny but not exactly useful in the current context.

The presidential primaries are a great place to practice, as you can come up with rhetorical names for the candidates:

Kris Krispy
Pokes fun at his weight and ties him to donuts

Senor Yayb/Hayb Boosch
Sometimes sneak in he wants to be El Presidente
ties him to his Mexican, immigration stuff

Marco Rinubio
Ties him to RINOS

Linda Graham
Nuff said :P


Now these are more humorous rhetoric, which I prefer.

The best one I've seen so far for Germany are those Rapefugee signs with those silhouettes chasing the girl.

Blogger Josh January 14, 2016 11:01 AM  

And we are not going to get it back by "voting", or "demonstrating". Fortunately, once the debtPonziconomy collapses, there will be a politics of "other means". For which millions of American Whites (as opposed to, say, disarmed European Whites) are well-prepared

I'm going to guess you're not one of the prepared ones.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 11:02 AM  

Oh yeah, another good one was when Trey Gowdy endorsed Paul Ryan.

Trayvon Gowdy
Paul Ryno

Blogger Sheila4g January 14, 2016 11:03 AM  

I'm a poor rhetorician but trying to learn from Vox's tips. I do notice when something I read strikes me as clever. While I don't use social media, I've seen online reference to rapefugee, refujihadi, and merkeljungen. I think even in English, Merkelyouth might work, given how Negro mobs are routinely referred to as "youths" in the MSM. I also saw a comment recently that referred to mixed-marriage (of any sort) as "forking" one's genetic line. I find that very apt.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 11:05 AM  

The best I can come up with for our German friends:

Cologniphate

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 11:10 AM  

@69 Chrom

Angela Burkal
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By Crom, I'm going to use that one :P
Reminds me of this one:
Dick Durban = Dick Turban

Blogger Alexander January 14, 2016 11:11 AM  

Köliphate - sounds better

Kölniphate - more obvious connection.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 11:13 AM  

@79 Josh
Besides, trump only likes guys who aren't captured.
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Trump strikes me as the type guy who would get these guys back, then fire them for incompetence

Blogger Student in Blue January 14, 2016 11:20 AM  

@Josh
The sailors that were returned the next day?

Repeat after me: rhetoric is not dialectic.

The fact they were returned the next day doesn't make the statement factually untrue either.

Anonymous Peter Garstig January 14, 2016 11:23 AM  

For Germany, it'a actually easy to coin a rhetoric term for the political elite and the welcome culture: Die Abschaffer.

Thilo Sarazzin wrote the book a couple of years ago, titled 'Deutschland schafft sich ab' - 'Germany is disembodying itself'

#Abschaffer

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 11:31 AM  

You know, at some point there will be enough of them to give Germany the Moroccan treatment, or even turn it into Cassino if they want, and there won't be enough police to stop them.

(But I don't know if Europeans know their Italian history well enough for that to mean anything today.)

Blogger Sevron January 14, 2016 11:33 AM  

Is this the part yet when Josh's anti-Trump monomania causes him to claim that there wasn't a time when backwater shithole countries like Iran would not have dared to detain US military personnel for any length of time, let alone deign to return them on their own timetable?

Blogger bob k. mando January 14, 2016 11:33 AM  

so, after passing a budget which fully funds ObamaCare and continues with forcing religious institutions to pay for abortions / contraceptives against their beliefs
...
Paul Ryan asks the Little Sisters of the Poor to sit with him for the State of the Union address.

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-01-11/4-year-old-boy-will-be-ryans-guest-at-state-of-the-union

now, you might be thinking that this is a slap in Obama's face, what with their lawsuit against being forced to pay for the ACA.

it's not, though.

it's a slap in the face of the Little Sisters.

IF Ryan was serious about supporting their fight against ObamaCare
THEN he would have passed a budget DEfunding the ACA and forced Obama to veto it.

he used them as a political prop, a sop to his base, nothing more.

wonder if anyone will hold Ryan to account for his hypocrisy?

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 11:41 AM  

Nate @28: The concept of a servant state is good... its the language used to communicate that idea that is the issue.

Dhimmi.

Blogger VD January 14, 2016 11:42 AM  

Hasn't Vox repeatedly criticized others for referring to him as Theodore Beale? It is strange he would expect people to respect his name but holds no respect for how other people choose to name themselves.

No. And it's not strange at all that an anklebiter like you would passive-aggressively find it "strange" for me to do something I did not, in fact, do. It is totally predictable.

But I understand. My ankles are pretty sweet.

Anonymous The other robot January 14, 2016 11:43 AM  

welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants

Welcoming properly wetted immigrants?

Anonymous The other robot January 14, 2016 11:48 AM  

#Abschaffer

Could we use #Abschafter so that it sounds like Germany is shafting itself in English?

Blogger VD January 14, 2016 11:48 AM  

"invader-American" does not work. The second word is the problem. Better: "invasive ethnics"; or, for those with longer attention spans, "invasive anti-White ethnics" (for example, Nimrata Randhawa Haley)

Stop sperging. You clearly don't understand rhetoric, so give it up. No one is ever going to adopt your clever and meaningful terms that you can no doubt explain and justify for hours.

Meanwhile, people adopt the terms that I introduce and utilize with some degree of regularity. Not always, but often.

There are only two tests of rhetorical effectiveness: 1) do those on your side gleefully adopt it? and 2) does the target complain about it?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 14, 2016 12:02 PM  

OT - but only slightly:
German local officials on Thursday sent a bus with 51 Syrian refugees on board to Chancellor Angela Merkel’s office in Berlin, in a protest against her migrant policy.

Anonymous Quartermaster January 14, 2016 12:03 PM  

There are few people in the Anglosphere that even understand the reference to Vichy France and what it meant. For that reason alone, the reference won't work.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 14, 2016 12:33 PM  

One of the biggest problems is with millennials even the white ones barely know any history, leftists are not teaching them about the stasi or any of the negative things about coercive collectivism. Its like it has never been tried before and failed.

I've been using immvader and rapefugee on Twitter...

There are cucks that don't like the raping nature of Hispanics to be brought up in public, especially if you tell them they need to be aware of it because during the Cecil the lion coverage a Hispanic was seen on video tossing the body of 8yo white girl Maddy Middleton that he raped to death into a dumpster. Although there are few sights better to see than the look on someone like that's face when they go from making threats to realizing how bad it would look to lose a fight to a gay guy practicing free speech.

It's stupid. It's usually used by the same idiots who think they're going to rhetorically reclaim the good name of Nazism.

You do realize that once whites become small enough relative to the rest of the world, there wont be many more civilization advances. Whites sending aid to the 3rd world interfered with the evolutionary strategy there of breeding as many as you can in hopes that 1 or 2 could survive to adulthood. Innovation has been hammered out of east Asians by their Emperors who would have executed the Wright Brothers for the crime of questioning the existing math/science.

But really, #rapefugee is way ahead of anything else used thus far.

Look at how quickly it went from #1 trending to removed and probably shadowbanned.

Blogger Student in Blue January 14, 2016 12:38 PM  

@VD
There are only two tests of rhetorical effectiveness: 1) do those on your side gleefully adopt it? and 2) does the target complain about it?

Really, there's only one test, which is your #2.

The louder they complain, the more their enemies will pick it up, because it obviously works.

If it only catches on with those on your side but the target isn't phased by it at all, that's failure of a rhetorical term.

Blogger Sam Lively January 14, 2016 12:43 PM  

I don't think Invader-American has the kind of direct emotional impact the most devastating rhetoric has, but it certainly gets the core intellectual objections off succinctly.

Another problem with Invader is it sounds pretty good to this American ear. Americans take pride in being successful invaders/liberators. To borrow from Walter White, WE are the danger.

I say tap into old labor's lingo and call the immigrants scabs. That's an epithet that has some actual American cultural coattails. It's the kind of insult that the white working-class can feel some solidarity with past generations in shouting at the elite.

Anonymous rienzi January 14, 2016 12:52 PM  

Sombody threw out the term: refujihadi.

I like it. Short, sweet, and to the point.

Everybody knows what a jihadi is, and outside of the dar-al-islam its nearly a universal term of opprobrium.

By merging it with "refugee", the word "refugee" loses all of its positive connotations, thereby stripping the SJWs of one of their most valuable and powerful terms for the invaders.

Blogger VD January 14, 2016 1:02 PM  

Yo, KoranBurningFaggot, use a different handle. Perhaps you missed it, but this is the second time I've told you.

Blogger David-093 January 14, 2016 1:08 PM  

Invader-American is excellent rhetoric. It plays on the annoying hyphenated American bullshit that's been cemented into the American psyche over the last fifty or sixty years, which means it's simple and doesn't need to be explained. Invader is a deliberately inflammatory word, but also accurate. Combining the two into Invader-American is likely to draw laughs from right-wingers and ire from liberals and cucks.

It's brilliant, far better than crimmigrant, immivasion, or all the other awkward sounding terms that have been used over the last year.

Blogger RobertT January 14, 2016 1:11 PM  

I think this is decent shaming device because it compares them to a capitulating, easily defeated enemy But I'm susceptible to arguments that require a little bit of background construct, and I suspect it would not have the same impact on most people.

Blogger Sam Lively January 14, 2016 1:13 PM  

@103

refujihadi is great for Europe, but of limited use for the current American immig debate.


Blogger Sam Lively January 14, 2016 1:27 PM  

Ann Coulter was just on John Gibson's show, making him shake in his Fox News boots by refusing to back off of calling for Haley to be deported and doubling down by calling her a bimbo. When a shocked Gibson tried to shame her out of using such a term to describe such a nice lady, she tripled down, defining her term and moved on to hit Lindsey Graham with it. Gibson couldn't help laughing and she'd beat him.

Anonymous anger management January 14, 2016 1:49 PM  

"Invasion-American" might have a better ring to it. The -n ending sounds more like that in Asian-American, African-American, Mexican-American, etc.

It also is slightly depersonalized, which might go over better with the target audience.

Anonymous BGKB January 14, 2016 2:04 PM  

My favorite condensation of world history is:

The elite looters have a stunningly simple MO that they repeat seemingly non-stop. Destroy a nation and its economy, and then swoop in and collect hard assets on the cheap usually with easy money due to proximity to central bankers. The goal that these connected money men want is a publicly sanctioned private looting.

VD Yo, KoranBurningFaggot, use a different handle. Perhaps you missed it, but this is the second time I've told you.

Sorry I didn't see it before. I was under the impression that it was preferable to my previous name. Would you prefer the BGS name or the BGKoranBurner?

Somehow I suspect these guys won't be recruiting for a black Heimdall squad any time soon.

They are probably the ones that told Marvel they made a mistake with the translation, Heimdall having a dirty backside meant he was gay not black. Back then people couldn't bath every day so gays in far northern climes might have smelled as bad as blacks.
And there is no ooooooos for people to clutch their pearls over

55 definition of genocide by UN and that what is being done to Europeans is genocide.

Did you try explaining that productive Asians and whites hold off having kids till they can afford them while their taxes pay for Latrina's 21 illegitimate crack babies?

The sailors that were returned the next day? The day after Bath House Barry's SOTU address.

Anonymous tublecane January 14, 2016 2:09 PM  

"the term is quite literally true"

Don't go believing your own exaggeration. "Occupier" might be literally true, but invasion denotes things that can't honestly be attributed to particular immigrants. Maybe I'll grant you "Effectively (in the long-run) Invader-Americans" is literally true, but that doesn't have much of a ring to it.

Blogger SirHamster January 14, 2016 2:43 PM  

@111
Have you checked that against a dictionary?

Blogger Chrom January 14, 2016 3:12 PM  

Deutschland Unter Allah.

Blogger Tom K. January 14, 2016 4:15 PM  

Yes, they called it "the Union". The Anschluss. 98% of Austrians supported it.

I think the only people to oppose it was Captain Von Trapp and the Von Trapp Family Singers!

Blogger Tom K. January 14, 2016 4:17 PM  

As my ex-wifeex-wife used to say, "You can't rape the willing."

Blogger Tom K. January 14, 2016 4:27 PM  

I'm thinking "White Suicide" has a certain ring of Truth to it.

Whites ARE the dominant culture and like the Romans we will never be conquered from without. Our destruction is from within and is being orchestrated and facilitated by white eleitists who somehow think they will continue to rule behind the scenes?

I don't know. But White Suicide says it all.

Blogger haus frau January 14, 2016 4:38 PM  

Because there is so little racial solidarity among whites in general, I'm thinking any meme that focuses on white is going to miss it's mark. White genocide, white suicide, white ethno-masokism just aren't going to hit their target with most whites who would otherwise be sympathetic. Better to focus on the things about western culture that the invaders jeopardize like low crime rates.

Anonymous Rona January 14, 2016 4:52 PM  

Did you try explaining that productive Asians and whites hold off having kids till they can afford them while their taxes pay for Latrina's 21 illegitimate crack babies?

Facts don't change opinions. People are gullible selfish virtue signaling whores.

More whites were red-pilled in a year by Ramzpaul and Heartiste's mockery of "libtards, shitlibs, mudsharks..." than in 20 years of Jared Taylor's lectures on IQ and crime rates.

It's a depressing reality, but people adopt views as they adopt fashion styles. To be recognized as cool by those they perceive as superior in status. As demonstrated perfectly by idiots adding fag-flags to profiles as well as jesuischarlie nonsense.

I'm now convinced the most effective strategy to get people to change their views is to impose your frame on them.


1) Destroy their authorities (professors, media figures, bloggers,...) Lower their status, show them to be stupid, lame, fat, mentally ill, unsuccessful, unattractive..You can also show them to be factually wrong on a number of issues but this is actually the least important.
Vox has done a great job on a number of leftists on this point.

2) Raise the status of your side and hold your frame. Show that alt-right, endarkment is rebellious, smart, and destined to win.

Once I've seen people change opinions previously resistant to hetefacts, on the sole basis of the popularity and status of the opinion-holder any remaining belief in democracy died.

Rona

Anonymous SevenCrimes January 14, 2016 7:11 PM  

I came up with "Hahnreich" as a combination of hahnrei (German for "cuckold") and reich, but the two key problems are: 1) If effective, it would only be effective rhetoric for native German speakers, and 2) I'm not a native speaker, so I have no idea how to gauge the effectiveness myself.

Anonymous tublecane January 14, 2016 7:30 PM  

@112-No, and I suppose there's some definition that can be interpreted to cover what illegal immigrants do, so Vox might be technically correct that they are literally invaders. I'm thinking the infringement of law by intrusion is considered an "invasion," like how we call breaking and entering "home invasion."

However, the usual meaning of that term, especially on this scale, means coordinated armed incursion with intent to displace existing sovereignty, or at least to set up some sort of colonization. And even if you remove the armed part, the coordinated part, and the intent part, I still think calling them invaders is inappropriate. For they're not seeking to displace the ruling authority as it is, not even as regards the law they broke to get here (I imagine many immigrants would be in favor of closing the gates after themselves; more goodies for them).

If you want to go with the home invasion analogy, fine, it's an appropriate term. But that's weak rhetoric, and surely the advantage you're seeking to gain from the term "Invader-American" is from the armed incursion denotation, not the infringement of law denotation. In which case saying it's literally true is misleading.

Who cares whether it's literally true, anyway?

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 8:04 PM  

haus frau @117: Better to focus on the things about western culture that the invaders jeopardize like low crime rates.

Even just one man moving into the neighborhood from an alien low-trust society where easy prey is fair game means that 14 year-old girls can't walk alone to the public swimming pool anymore.

I don't know if the elites just don't care because of their gated communities, or if this is actually a bonus for them because it makes being rich more special if everyone else has a reduced quality of life and they don't.

Blogger Phillip George January 14, 2016 8:14 PM  

@118 Rona, good synopsis. When it comes to recruiting people to Jesus Christ Himself though, I reckon, quality on quantity. If they don't want the facts, information, logic, over emotion and fashion, then you don't want them. Show ponies might be good to sell tickets to the circus but not to put up tents and keep the whole nuts and bolts show on the road. We want metal and backbone. Not just bums on seats at our own carnival. Or a scorched earth?

Personally i don't care who did 911, if the earth is flat, if stanley Kubrick filmed all the moon landings, if there were one or four shooters at J F K, if flight 370 went into the ocean or Diego Garcia.

Personally I want the truth on those things. And I'm happy to say I'm wrong or don't know until the Truth is as solid as I am.

There is fashionable disinformation that could coral the weak minded into the next slaughterhouse. Whether that's ultra nationalism or Chrislam doesn't bother me. I'll follow the evidence till it's over.

Blogger Phillip George January 14, 2016 8:16 PM  

corral =

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 8:20 PM  

tublecane @120:

Read Cuckservative. The authors ably lay out the argument that historically, mass migration has always been a form of invasion that inevitably results in either the displacement of the former natives, their subjugation, or the forcible eviction of the migrants.

For example, the Roman Empire conquered other nations with professional armies; but when Rome was sacked by barbarians, they didn't have to travel far and fight their way through Rome's defenses, since they already lived there.

Blogger haus frau January 14, 2016 8:24 PM  

@121 you are onto something with that train of thought. White racial identity is a messy thing for whites but class warfare is old school. There's a lot of room in their for lampoon in limos in liberals who will never have to live with or compete for jobs against the new neighbors they are inviting in.

Blogger haus frau January 14, 2016 8:26 PM  

Open borders virus signaling is just paying for charity out of someone else's wallet.

Anonymous Discard January 14, 2016 10:08 PM  

117. Haus Frau: Hard to work up White solidarity when your town is White, your friends and enemies are all White, and the Darks are just something on TV. Especially when the TV tells you that the Darks are wonderful and that you're an ass not to know it.

Anonymous BigGaySteve January 14, 2016 10:39 PM  

I don't know if the elites just don't care because of their gated communities, or

The editor of the Baltimore Sun produced an article saying she feels safer with black gun wielding criminals than legal white gun owners because SHE STAYS AWAY FROM NIGGERS. She makes a good case for segragation

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2016/01/baltimore-sun-editor-says-she-feels.html

"An enemy completely incapable of understanding that they've made a powerful case for why segregating the races keeps white people free from the problems individual black people collectively create."

Blogger haus frau January 14, 2016 10:50 PM  

@127 "117. Haus Frau: Hard to work up White solidarity when your town is White, your friends and enemies are all White, and the Darks are just something on TV. Especially when the TV tells you that the Darks are wonderful and that you're an ass not to know it. "

yup. which is exactly why crying white genocide is a non-starter. However the UN defines it, white people just don't feel it. They won't feel it until it's far, far too late and that's why other rhetorical approaches are necessary. #rapefugees is relevant to anyone who has a female relative they care about.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 14, 2016 11:31 PM  

@122 Phillip George

... if flight 370 went into the ocean or Diego Garcia.

I think it was the Russians who made the case, with KAL 007 as a basis, that 370 is in the ocean 2km off Diego Garcia.

Of course, before that they floated the idea that some package guarded by reservist SEALS was onboard.

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 11:32 PM  

@ haus frau:

Yeah, rhetoric isn't just portmanteaux. Make it simple and concrete (14 year-old girl walking to the neighborhood swimming pool), about a real quality of life issue (making it safely there and back without fear of rapefugees following her into the women's locker room), and one that impacts a majority identity (people that don't live in gated communities).

Blogger Dirk Manly January 15, 2016 12:38 AM  

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Rapefugee

Blogger Dirk Manly January 15, 2016 12:50 AM  

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Anonymous Desiderius January 15, 2016 8:25 AM  

Rusty Fife,

"My short stays in NC, TN, KY, MO and likewise; have shown me how disimilar the are to to SC, AL, MS, LA, GA. I'm not sure if they belong in Yankeeland or the Old South."

Neither. They're in Appalachia (American Scotland).

Blogger CashBailey January 15, 2016 5:18 PM  

Based Ann Coulter.

What a woman.

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