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Tuesday, January 26, 2016

Mailvox: SJWs in tech media

An anonymous coward provides an update:
I noticed today that someone linked to you on the LWN.net news site, and was banned.  LWN is one of the most respected Linux news websites.  However, the owner is a thoroughly SJW-amenable authority.  There is no benefit to posting there.  The mere use of the phrase SJW there can get you blocked.  Corbet (the owner) says, in all the long history of the site, this is the first time he's drawn a line in the sand.  He is now deleting comments that discuss or refer to the SJW issue.

The VFM look like they're doing good work on slashdot, the second most popular Linux site.  Huzzah!
Actually, this is good news as well as an indication of another opportunity. First, since LWN is already converged, that means it is vulnerable to replacement. Something to consider as the cultural war in tech gets hotter.

Second, the fact that the SJW who runs LWN is so concerned about any mention of SJW entryism and convergence that he refuses to permit its discussion, despite it being one of the most important issues in technology at the moment, means that he knows his SJW allies cannot succeed if their efforts are exposed.

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25 Comments:

Blogger James Dixon January 26, 2016 6:07 AM  

Hmm, good thing I stopped reading LWN years ago. I hang out on lxer.com now. There are some SJW discussions going on there, though since they have a no politics tos clause such threads tend to get shut down.

Blogger The Kurgan January 26, 2016 6:18 AM  

Man...if I had any technical skills at all...the spiked, black armour of SJW-free Barebones Linux distro I would create... And its accompanying licence... SJW bodies would hang off it as a warning to others.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 26, 2016 6:48 AM  

The grannies or granny like who mod left wing sites keep tight reign on the discussions, would not want the cultists to get "feel badz" and have a breakdown.

Blogger Shimshon January 26, 2016 6:59 AM  

Too bad about LWN. I used to be a regular reader in the late 1990s.

Blogger Markku January 26, 2016 7:02 AM  

Remember, if you are a user there, don't just walk away in protest. If you are willing to sacrifice your membership, then don't just give it to them free. Link to VP, make them ban you.

Blogger Shimshon January 26, 2016 7:05 AM  

@1 I saw this hard-hitting post linked to from there. Mentions SJWAL and Vox by name. Was kind of surprised.

Anonymous Difster January 26, 2016 7:14 AM  

On a heavily populated site or project that has been co-opted by SJWs, it would be possible to play a long game. A bunch of VFMs sign up (not at once) comment or contribute in a non-controversial way (at first) as needed off and on for a few months while an alternative is prepared. As the alternative draws closer to completion, we get a little more combative and controversial. When the time is right, we, in unison, make a very noisy exit to the alternative project and invite the disaffected to join us there.

It could take anywhere from 20-100 VFMs per site/project and given the potential time constraints, any given VFM could juggle up to 3 missions without it becoming burdensome to their daily life.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 26, 2016 7:46 AM  

@7 Difster: LWN.net is relatively unique in being a paid subscription site, $7/month for a full subscription. Which on the other hand provides a different angle for attacks.

Blogger James Dixon January 26, 2016 8:02 AM  

> LWN.net is relatively unique in being a paid subscription site,

Yes. When they went to that model I stopped reading them. Nothing wrong with them doing so, it simply wasn't worth that much money to me. There were, and are, more important things I could do with the money.

Anonymous Veritas January 26, 2016 8:21 AM  

"La La La, I CAN'T HEAR YOU" means our ideas are powerful. They know they are liars, and that the truth always wins.

They sense their time is ending.

Anonymous Randomatos January 26, 2016 9:07 AM  

"-means that he knows his SJW allies cannot succeed if their efforts are exposed."

This is where things get interesting. If I call out a lying briefer at a mandatory training event, there will be a "concerned" officer popping up like a hungry prairie dog, demanding that we 'move the conversation into a safe space' (IE, where no impressionable young airmen might hear pinpricks of reason popping the delusion bubbles).

OpenID denektenorsk January 26, 2016 9:37 AM  

I'm confused. The first time I heard the phrase "Social Justice Warrior" it was from a self professed SJW and it wore the title like a badge of honor. That was a few years ago. Much like the damaged trans-species that inhabit Tumblr I didn't give it much thought until I repeated heard the term and had these idiots screaming at that I'm a raciss while everything else that comes out of their mouth is raciss BS.

Now even they consider it a pejorative term? That, my fellow VFM and Ilk is progress.

Blogger tz January 26, 2016 9:54 AM  

They will have learned nothing - GamerGate was about the media.
Who's his Zoe?
Especially now that Breitbart is covering it.

Anonymous Anonymous January 26, 2016 9:57 AM  

Soylentnews needs a little more publicity but it is starting to be a strong alternative.

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Liberty (d.b.a. automatthew) January 26, 2016 10:47 AM  

Pick a name and use the Name/URL option in the "Comment as:" menu, Anonymous. You don't have to enter a URL.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx January 26, 2016 11:58 AM  

@12. denektenorsk

I'm confused. The first time I heard the phrase "Social Justice Warrior" it was from a self professed SJW and it wore the title like a badge of honor. That was a few years ago...
Now even they consider it a pejorative term? That, my fellow VFM and Ilk is progress.


Yes, that's right. "SJW" is, or was, THEIR term for themselves. It goes back maybe a couple decades. Scalzi used it as a self-descriptor as recently as early 2015, iirc. Arthur Chu used it mid-2015, even calling him/itself a "Social Justice Stormtrooper". Now it is becoming pejorative. The Wiki edit history for Social Justice has some of this memetic history, and plenty of #Gamergate references too. Similar to the Twitter stock price, SJW began its descent during #Gamergate, then took a rapid plunge around the time SJWAL came out. (Twitter made its spectacular swan dive "because of" Milo, later than SJWAL but similar). The SJW meme has become so toxic that they even deleted its page on Wiki! Now it redirects to Social Justice.

Groot, good on ya.

Blogger John Morris January 26, 2016 12:43 PM  

Agree on the soylentnews.org suggestion. I could use some help beating the dewy eyed socialists there into submission. Had great fun with the same ilk on slashdot for over a decade as a paid user until Cmdr. Taco sold it and the new SJW friendly owners dropped the hammer and ghost banned me within a year of his exit.

Last I tried logging into my account at slashdot it was still locked into negative karma and triggering an ghostban on any other (even AC) posts from the same IP address. Before the change in ownership though it was a great place, managed to post a fair amount of crimethink into the hivemind and kept the karma bonus for over a decade straight.

Anonymous Garrulus January 26, 2016 1:29 PM  

LWN and some of its users cucked very hard there, callign for immediate mufflings. It seems they had a run in before and were all on edge.

Vox you also appeared on the C-realm podcast twice
KMO turned very much to the left since he moved to NYC and moved in with Jewish massage woman Olga K. In the first interview about SJW's I thought he had cucked irreversably. But then the second interview (with James Howard Kunstler) redeemed him a bit, It seems that even the lefties are getting fed up with SJWs now and use your book as a guide on how to deal with them.

http://c-realm.com/?s=vox+day&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

Both were done on the paywalled version of the podcast unfortunately.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 26, 2016 3:31 PM  

@17 John Morris
Last I tried logging into my account at slashdot it was still locked into negative karma and triggering an ghostban on any other (even AC) posts from the same IP address.

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Did you try logging in thru a VPN? Might get around that ban.

Blogger VD January 26, 2016 4:41 PM  

Now even they consider it a pejorative term? That, my fellow VFM and Ilk is progress.

Precisely. Evil and inferiority always soil the terms used to describe them, no matter how noble they are at the start.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 26, 2016 6:51 PM  

@20 Other examples of terms shifting to try to escape from reality:

"queer" -> "fag" -> "gay"

"moron" -> "retarded" -> "developmentally disabled"

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 26, 2016 6:59 PM  

@17 Slashdot? That's a blast from the past. I have a low 6 digit userid there (10xxxx). Haven't been on there in years. There were too many liberals.

Blogger John Morris January 26, 2016 10:18 PM  

Were-Puppy @ 19 said, "Did you try logging in thru a VPN?"

Wouldn't help. I'd want my low (1458) UID back, especially since it has a cash balance left. But it is locked to keep resetting to negative Karma even when I was trying to game it and post tech comments that get upvoted out of negative karma, I'd quickly just jump back to posting at -1 again. So then I tried posting as an AC and found that any IP I had logged into my account from was getting a ghostban. I could see my AC posts from the IP I posted them from but not when I would view the page from a different IP which was why I'd never get a reply.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 27, 2016 11:05 AM  

Chuckle.

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Students nation-wide to attend four-day, university funded white privilege bash

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One workshop, titled “Self Care and Healing as Change Agents,” will provide attendees with a safe-space to share the emotional burden that comes from being a social justice warrior.
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http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7209

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The White Privilege Conference

http://www.whiteprivilegeconference.com/


Anonymous lalala January 28, 2016 12:33 AM  

Consider starting a thread on LKML calling for a boycott. The Linux crowd is getting older and more conservative, as evidenced by the anti-SJW posts on Slashdot. Many coders would be sympathetic to our cause, although most remain economically dependent on pro-SJW megacorps.

Anybody can post to LKML - just send an email to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, no subscription required. Use a real-looking name as pseudonyms are discouraged. If you start a big enough shitstorm, it will appear under hot comments on lkml.org and LWN will be forced to cover it in the weekly edition.

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