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Monday, January 25, 2016

Musings on Immigration III

This is the third part of a guest post on the European migrant crisis:

In part II of this series, I considered ways the German and European authorities could attempt to handle the Migrant Crisis.  However, I rather doubt that the European Governments will have the nerve to embrace such measures.  They would have to cope with howls of outrage from the Left while balancing the suspicions of the Right that the measures utilized would eventually end up aimed at them.  Giving the government a vast amount of power may well mean, eventually, that the government will wind up using it in a manner you dislike.

Regardless of either intentions or morality, there is a further problem.  Germany, and almost every other European Governments, has been making alarming cuts in both its police and its deployable military forces.  Even if the German government works up the nerve to order draconian measures, it may find itself unable to actually enforce them.

Furthermore, as morale sinks within the police forces - it is unlikely that the German police very much enjoy the idea of putting down protest marches against rapist invaders - there may be a vast exodus of trained and experienced policemen. 

Therefore, it behoves us to study the three major possibilities for Germany’s future: Fascism, Balkanisation and Caliphate.

1. Fascism.

Let us assume, as I expect to happen, that Merkel’s government fails to both come to grips with the crisis and convince the vast majority of Germans that it is capable and competent.  As I said in the previous article, definite proof of a government cover-up ensures that the government will not be believed by the ordinary people.  As has been noted elsewhere, that which is half-seen is all the more disturbing to the imagination!  The government’s failure will both encourage the rise of vigilante groups of the streets of Germany and, almost certainly, empower politicians who intend to ride the crisis into power.  In times of crisis, voters tend to head to the right; a competent right-wing politician (a German version of Donald Trump) may well have a good chance of being elected into power.

He will be called a second Hitler, of course.  But how badly will that hurt his chances when Germans start asking themselves what Hitler would have done, faced with a howling mob of invaders?

Assuming this individual gets elected, what then?

Such a government will have few restraints.  International opinion rarely means squat to fascist dictatorships.  I imagine he would start by building up the police and security forces, then rounding up vast numbers of migrants and sealing them away in detention camps.  If there is nowhere else to put them, he may well open up the gas chambers and slaughter the migrants in job lots.  And if the situation in Germany continues, he may well be cheered as the migrants are summarily exterminated.

He will also purge Germany of everyone he considers politically undesirable.  The thought of Merkel standing trial for treason is quite a pleasing one, along with many other left-wing morons who somehow managed to climb into power.  However, it probably won’t stop there.  The technology available to the modern world for population control and surveillance would make the Spanish Inquisitors wet their pants.  Anyone who has expressed a politically-unsound opinion on Facebook (for example) would be targeted. 

Longer-term, he would need to come to terms with Germany’s demographic crisis.  I would expect 'Kinder, Küche, Kirche' to be the order of the day for German womanhood; those babies have to be born!  General freedoms would probably be strongly limited; a smart fascist wouldn't interfere too much with personal freedoms, but political freedom would be gone, once and for all.

There are people who would probably see this as a dream come true.  It isn't.  The fascists might achieve their first set of objectives, but what then?  Staying in power would become a desperate imperative.  Why would anyone show them mercy when they have shown none?  Getting rid of a fascist government is far from easy.  Removing Saddam took a full-scale invasion.

Internationally, of course, a resurgent Germany with more than a whiff of Nazism would be a nightmare reborn.  And that’s about as far as I dare take this one.

2. Balkanisation

If we assume that the flow of migrants is not stopped, and the government fails to contain the situation, we may see, instead, the rise of a balkanised Germany.  The original no-go zones would expand rapidly to contain the newcomers, linking up into larger and larger communities where the original law no longer runs.   Without a strong police presence, real power would come to rest in the hands of radicals, men who will paint themselves as defending their communities against very real threats.  (By this point, there will probably be constant low-level fighting on the streets of Germany, giving them a genuine cause.)  Women will be forced under the veil; children will be taught to hate the surrounding German society.

Young German girls will be kidnapped and enslaved inside the communities.  There will be no hope of saving them from a life of rape and forced childbirth.

And any previous accommodation with the natives will be blown away.

This will probably cause a mass exodus of German civilians, either to safer parts of Germany (if they exist) or somewhere beyond German borders.  (The Poles might find it amusing to take German refugees, if they’re willing to behave; Putin might see advantage in doing the same.)

Or, alternatively, ‘German’ enclaves will fight to defend themselves against both the Islamic enclaves and the government (or what remains of it).  German soldier and policemen will desert to join their communities, bringing weapons and training with them.  Muslim soldiers within the German military will probably do the same, in the other direction.  Both sides will work desperately to build up their stockpiles of weapons, as the government’s ability to do anything crumbles.

There will be a great deal of fighting before matters settle down, particularly as the various sub-states start to form successor nations.

Each enclave will need to control its own food supplies - although it might be possible to starve an immigrant enclave into submission - and other issues arising from its separation from Germany.  We would be looking at scenes out of the Thirty Years War, perhaps worse.  Modern society is just not organised to support a large population during a time of major disruption.  I would imagine a truly fearsome death rate as society breaks down completely.

Long-term, who knows what will happen?

3. Caliphate

Tom Kratman’s Caliphate predicted a unified Islamic Empire controlling most of Europe, apart from Britain and Switzerland.  As chilling as his predictions were, there were a number of issues with them.  Muslims do not have one vast hive mind.  Different groups of Sunni terrorists/insurgents (a category that includes both ISIS and Al Qaeda) have different ideas about how best to govern territory when they finally take it.  The differences between Sunnis and Shias are far greater, with both sides determined to destroy the other.  (There is something to be said for pulling out of the Middle East and letting them kill each other.)  Finally, Arabs are often extremely racist towards other Muslims, which causes far more friction in the Muslim World. 

A united Caliphate, therefore, is actually the least likely scenario.  I would say that it is rather more likely that there is an Islamic France and an Islamic Germany that hate each other fully as much as the natives did, between 1870 and 1945.  To have a united Caliphate would require a group that managed to gain control of the political levers without either fracturing or provoking resistance before it was too late.  In my experience, large-scale conspiracies rarely work out in practice

Remember, neither Hitler nor Stalin had  a solid plan from Day One to take total power for themselves.  Instead, they were opportunists.  In both cases, they were riding tigers.  One slip and it would have been the end of them.

But let us imagine, for a moment, a powerful and charismatic ‘moderate’ Muslim who manages to work his way into a position of power.  Perhaps he’s the leader of a ‘reasonable’ Islamic Party that claims to believe in the rights of everyone, even non-Muslims.  His words are enough to soothe tensions on the streets, a process made easier by steadily replacing senior police and military officers with his own men.  A handful of radicals who are too noticeable even in a tame media environment get stoned to death, just to bolster his ratings.  His party even works its way into the EU and different national politics, making it clear that they’re the good guys.  See?  Accommodation works!

And then, one day, the coup.  The remaining non-Muslims (and Muslims who won’t toe the line) in government get rounded up.  Borders are closed, new security forces appear on the streets, Islamic Law is imposed, the nightmare begins....

Plausible?  I hope not.

Barring a major change in mindset, the Caliphate will rapidly start to decay, whatever happens.  The Middle-Eastern mentality is not suited to running a modern state.  However, they will inherit control of both a reasonably-modern military force and a nuclear arsenal.  Would they fire on the United States?  Or Russia?  Or Israel?

I don’t know how Kratman envisaged his Caliphate coming into existence, but maybe it was a little like that.

I think it’s fairly clear that none of these possibilities are very good ones.  Long-term, Germany and Europe would be in deep shit.  Even the ‘best’ of these outcomes, a fascist government, would be a nightmare on a hellish scale.  It would probably take a joint American-Russian invasion to put a stop to the reoccurrence of a historical nightmare, but almost certainly they would be too late to stop millions upon millions of people from dying, or worse.

And considering that the Americans and Russians cannot even cooperate in the relatively smaller matters of Ukraine and Syria, how likely is it that that they will be able to act in concert regarding the fate of Germany or Europe?

But no matter what, one thing is clear: Merkel Must Go!

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138 Comments:

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 2:52 PM  

Kratman's Caliphate is currently free via Amazon's Kindle. Do it!

OpenID paworldandtimes January 25, 2016 3:03 PM  

A very enjoyable guest post. Thank you for the analysis. A few comments:

a smart fascist wouldn't interfere too much with personal freedoms, but political freedom would be gone, once and for all.

That should be a lesson-learned when we look back at the failed era of Political Correctness. Former Yugoslavian dissident Srdja Trifkovic has a great video on YouTube in which he explains how he felt more free behind the Iron Curtain than he does in the modern liberal West. The reason, as he explains it, was the Communist's allowance for two separate spheres of life, the public and the private. In the public sphere, one had to conform to the prevailing structure of taboos. In the private sphere, he was free to talk and think as he likes.

We would be looking at scenes out of the Thirty Years War,

Maybe I'm underestimating the migrants, but my feeling is that they are nearly 100% opportunistic vermin. Stop feeding them and they die. I don't see them withstanding any organized hostility.

Pegida and skinheads would eradicate them in one day if not for Die Polizei.

PA

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 3:08 PM  

"Germany, and almost every other European Governments, has been making alarming cuts in both its police and its deployable military forces."


I can't help but wonder if this isn't due to the speculative "Nato Army"? Self created Martial law is looking very trendy these days in the West.

http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/11/germany-considers-first-domestic-military-force-since-adolf-hitler-in-the-wake-of-immigration-whos-next-2469364.html

http://www.infowars.com/senate-ready-to-give-obama-authority-to-declare-international-martial-law/

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-military-martial-law-bill-sneaked-through-by-senate/

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM# 0273 January 25, 2016 3:11 PM  

Vox, has your friend written and published elsewhere? Is this a trial balloon? Maybe Mrs. Merkel is the author herself?

Blogger Tom Kratman January 25, 2016 3:13 PM  

Assuming he's reading, the European Caliphate came into existence after:
a. Three nuclear weapons were successfully detonated in the US, plus one in London, along with 3 squibs in the US and a failed one off Tel Aviv, and then,
b. the sitting US president failed to retaliate, so
c. we elected a genocidal maniac who inflicted reprisal on the order or 300 to one in deaths, which
d. generated a wave of refugee migration to dwarf the current one into insignificance, while
e. Europe's traitor class still let them in until it was too late to fight back.

And, yes, they run Europe into the ground, il hamdu l'illah.

People - usually lefty type people - keep saying "muslims don't all think alike." It's a half truth, hence wholly misleading. The question isn't really how much some may differ, but the degree to which they agree on important matters. Even shia and sunni, for example, agree that man cannot legislatively overturn divine mandate, and that women's testimony in court is of half value, while no significant school of Islam or Islamic jurisprudence has yet said slavery is not permitted.

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 3:14 PM  

Maybe Mrs. Merkel is the author herself?

Who is Merkel's husband? Stalin?

Blogger Tom Kratman January 25, 2016 3:14 PM  

Wyrd:

It's been free for years and will stay that way, too.

Anonymous cincinnatus January 25, 2016 3:18 PM  

I imagine he would start by building up the police and security forces, then rounding up vast numbers of migrants and sealing them away in detention camps. If there is nowhere else to put them,

This could be easily blamed on those migrants who smugly destroyed their passports and those Muslim countries who refuse to take back their migrants without absolute proof.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 25, 2016 3:20 PM  

So.... nightmares upon nightmares, is that it?

At least Americans are well-armed.

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 3:21 PM  

Wyrd:

It's been free for years and will stay that way, too.


Loverly.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:21 PM  

Or, alternatively, ‘German’ enclaves will fight to defend themselves against both the Islamic enclaves and the government (or what remains of it). German soldier and policemen will desert to join their communities, bringing weapons and training with them.

A US-led coalition may try to step in on the side of the muslims here, after a proper run of propaganda. (Nevermind that this could finally spell the end of the US via bankruptcy, no one ever accused America of being too smart to jump into this war or that one.)

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2016 3:25 PM  

Fascism is not necessarily a threat to anyone in a neighboring country. Invading other countries is not part of the definition. Didn't Franco mind his own country's business?

And I can't get upset at the prospect of SJWs being stripped of citizenship for their clearly expressed hatred of Whites and Western civilization, and put to useful labor. Just because it's popular in some quarters doesn't make treason excusable.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 25, 2016 3:25 PM  

@10

Given Trump's prospects of winning the election as it is, I sincerely doubt that possibility. Maybe if it happened 3 years ago, but not after 2016.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 25, 2016 3:26 PM  

@11

It tends to be part of the definition of despotism, even if its not expressly part of the theory.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:26 PM  

@2 PA,

Maybe I'm underestimating the migrants, but my feeling is that they are nearly 100% opportunistic vermin. Stop feeding them and they die. I don't see them withstanding any organized hostility.

Pegida and skinheads would eradicate them in one day if not for Die Polizei.


I believe you are correct. It might take as long as a week though, honestly.

However, as I said in the previous comment we can't think of this as occurring in a vacuum. The moneyed transnational elite simply can't allow this sort of outright, unabashed violent resistance to go on without reprisal.

Anonymous Garrulus January 25, 2016 3:27 PM  

A Banlieu scenario as exists in France and Belgium now is the most likely for the time being. The numbers of invaders aren't large enough yet for more drastic structural outcomes short term.

Funny TV clip AFD front woman thinks Merkel may have to flee to south america for her own safety after she's deposed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxlEKK-F-c&feature=youtu.be
It has all the editor cut tricks of audience shaking heads and booing.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:29 PM  

@12 Leo,

You are misreading Trump's character. If George W. Bush took steroids instead of cocaine, then he'd be indistinguishable from Trump.

Blogger Jourdan January 25, 2016 3:29 PM  

This analysis of Germany is fundamentally unsound. While events are beginning to push people in our direction, the German government enjoys much greater respect from Germans than USG has from Americans.

The nine poll composite has support for CDU/CSU at 40 pc, with SPD at 30, Grrens at 10 and the Left at 10. Perhaps one out of ten Germans are with us, which is huge progress, but not a crisis for the system.

The situation gives cause for long term hope, but we're just starting this ride.

Keep in mind that Americans have learned to live with a 13 pc criminal African class without any real fuss.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 25, 2016 3:30 PM  

Only three? What about return to the Monarchy? Not more than 100 years ago, there were Monarchists ruling Germany and Germany was not a mess then!

What about just Race Realism? You don't need Fascism to kick Muslims out. Fascism is part socialism. It is time to drop all socialism. Just plain old Nationalism mixed with the return of the princes and monarchies that ruled Germany! It is obvious that democracies can't/won't do it. You need a strong Arm--that is the Warrior Class---Monarchy and Aristocracy!

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 3:36 PM  

Vox, has your friend written and published elsewhere? Is this a trial balloon? Maybe Mrs. Merkel is the author herself?

Yes. No. No.

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2016 3:37 PM  

18. W.LindsayWheeler: OK, aristocracy it is. I'd rather be called "Squire" than "Gruppenfuhrer" anyway.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 3:37 PM  

"If George W. Bush took steroids instead of cocaine, then he'd be indistinguishable from Trump."

George W Bush's I.Q. could fit in Trump's shirt pocket. That guy is a pimple on Trump's ass at best.

Anonymous Nxx January 25, 2016 3:39 PM  

a smart fascist wouldn't interfere too much with personal freedoms, but political freedom would be gone, once and for all.

Basically fascists would treat anti-whites, traitorists and albophobes the same as racists, nativists and xenophobes are treated today.

Wake me up when it's time to remind leftists about karma or whatever.

Blogger Mr. Bee January 25, 2016 3:42 PM  

"...he may well open up the gas chambers and slaughter the migrants in job lots."

This site is haunted by the ghost of Andrew MacDonald.

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2016 3:43 PM  

13. WhiteKnightLeo: I disagree that despotism and imperialism are connected. Britain and France managed to conquer a whole lot of territory that belonged to other without being despotic. And there have been many real despots that bothered nobody but their own subjects.

Blogger Salt January 25, 2016 3:43 PM  

It isn't leibensraum this time with Germany. It's just plain old being invaded, along with a decaying EU structure. This is more about being nationalists and against the ruling class than international discontent heading towards a European WWIII.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 25, 2016 3:46 PM  

Discard, Franco wasn't really a fascist, though.

Fascism, itself, tends to be government as theater. The parades, the songs, the symbols, the propaganda; it's all intended to tap into the emotions to increase unity, security, and productivity. It's rational, too, in the sense that it understands man, in general, as primarily an instinctive and emotional species, rather than a reasoning one. Thus, fascism goes to war too, as theater, to further tap into emotions. I might even say that any country that goes to war and is serious about it will be fascist to the extent that it's serious. That kind of fascism we might call "tactical" fascism.

The problem with it as a system of government, what we might call strategic fascism, is long term. Be it noted, it can work fairly well in the short term, but every day you need to pump a little more symbolism, a bigger parade, more special effects, new songs with old themes, etc, etc. or it stops working. And there is a finite amount of new and bigger to be provided. It's like a drug addiction, really. And eventually there is no dose big enough to keep the high going. War, too, is expensive, far too expensive to keep going in perpetuity, so this, too, fails.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 25, 2016 3:46 PM  

Whites ain't got nowhere to go enmasse, it could probably go the way of a chaotic Brazil or Mexico but the left cannot shut its mouth so it will probably go to a hot dirty war where the skinhead saying "your skin is your uniform" is operational.

Blogger SciVo January 25, 2016 3:49 PM  

Even the ‘best’ of these outcomes, a fascist government, would be a nightmare on a hellish scale. It would probably take a joint American-Russian invasion to put a stop to the reoccurrence of a historical nightmare, but almost certainly they would be too late to stop millions upon millions of people from dying, or worse.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that Germans have spent 70 years regretting the devastating consequences of their overreach -- first on a visceral and vaginal level, then on a moral and intellectual level.

Germans -- ethnic Germans, not orcs born in Germany -- are intelligent and analytical. And they could hardly avoid thinking about it, since their noses were rubbed in it at every opportunity.

They have had generations to ponder what they did wrong, analyzing every level separately and together. Guilt-tripped and forced to ruminate on it -- barfing up the vomit of their horribleness to chew on it some more, over and over again.

I don't know about you, but I'm half German genetically, and I would not be able to help also considering how to simply get a different outcome.

1. No concentration camps. The international community doesn't like efficiency for some reason. Just kick out the undesirables and fight their descendents until the end of time, like everyone else does. Better that than ganged up on by people that can actually fight effectively.

2. Don't overreach. In fact, don't go where unwelcome. Maybe even build a Maginot line in case of the international equivalent of antifas -- but one that would actually work, not like those unimaginative French.

3. No really, play defense this time. Keep the moral dimension.

4. Speaking of which, if forced to counter-attack and then occupy some territory for a time, have strict procedures in place to prevent abuse of civilians, including policing their criminals better than they did. Make their streets even safer.

And so on. I just made this up on the spot, and I'm American. Seven decades of pondering by actual Germans in Germany will have produced something orders of magnitude more sophisticated; and even if people couldn't talk about it before, by definition, they will feel free to do so by the time they are in power.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 25, 2016 3:51 PM  

@16

No I'm not. Trump isn't going to be attempting to convince the American people to support the European governments.

Blogger buwaya January 25, 2016 3:52 PM  

Your selection is missing the fourth option, which was mentioned above.
France and Britain are already dealing with this scale of cultural conflict and welfare overhead, there is no reason Germany can't do the same. The German standard of living will take a hit and the general social statistics too, but it is survivable, for a good long time it seems.
The only way this escalates to the worst cases that are your options is if the immigration increases to an order of magnitude above what it already is, a true "Camp of the Saints" situation. Its not there yet, but it threatens to get there barring some serious preventative measures. I think that pretty much everyone is convinced of THAT, at least, by this point, even Mrs. Merkel.

Blogger pyrrhus January 25, 2016 3:55 PM  

"Internationally, of course, a resurgent Germany with more than a whiff of Nazism would be a nightmare reborn. And that’s about as far as I dare take this one."

No it wouldn't. Germany's neighbors have nukes, and no nuclear nation has ever been invaded....

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 3:55 PM  

You don't know what Trump will be saying in two years because you don't know what he was saying two years ago. This guy regularly plays golf with a violent serial rapist who's married to the psychopathic bitch he's supposedly running against.

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 4:00 PM  

France and Britain are already dealing with this scale of cultural conflict and welfare overhead, there is no reason Germany can't do the same.

He said self-servingly. In fact, France and Britain are both on the verge of breaking down. Once the economic crisis hits, the bloodshed starts.

Blogger Ron January 25, 2016 4:05 PM  

Internationally, of course, a resurgent Germany with more than a whiff of Nazism would be a nightmare reborn. And that’s about as far as I dare take this one.

I honestly don't understand the issue.

Those Muslims who came to Germany three years ago should stay, the rest can go home the way they came. If necessary, put them on buses and dump them at the border. Give each of them about a liter of water and a loaf of bread. If anyone complains that the Muslims only came because they were invited, then feel free to dump the people who invited them at the border with the Muslims who are being thrown out.

Problem solved. As a side bonus, all immigrant groups will in the future remember not to take advantage of German hospitality.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 4:06 PM  

"You don't know what Trump will be saying in two years because you don't know what he was saying two years ago. This guy regularly plays golf with a violent serial rapist who's married to the psychopathic bitch he's supposedly running against."


What Trump does in the private sector as a businessman is a non sequitur. At least Trump was making money off Clinton being at his course. And I say "was" as in past tense because I highly doubt Clinton is gonna be playing at Trump's courses again after what Trump has publicly said about him.

What are the Bush's excuse for playing golf with Clinton?

http://newsmine.org/media/bush-clinton-golf-6-28-05.jpg

http://libertynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/bush-clinton-750x500.jpg

Blogger pyrrhus January 25, 2016 4:07 PM  

From my personal experiences in the last few years, I would say that Western Europe is toast, and probably the UK with it....Their populations are brainwashed sheep who deny what is happening right before their lyin' eyes. Eastern Europe and Switzerland, and possibly Catalonia, different story....

Anonymous cincinnatus January 25, 2016 4:07 PM  

@Tom Kratman

I actually have a couple points:

Assuming he's reading, the European Caliphate came into existence after:
a. Three nuclear weapons were successfully detonated in the US, plus one in London, along with 3 squibs in the US and a failed one off Tel Aviv, and then,
b. the sitting US president failed to retaliate, so
c. we elected a genocidal maniac who inflicted reprisal on the order or 300 to one in deaths, which


I imagine if your book was better-known, SJWs would be likening Trump to Buckman.

d. generated a wave of refugee migration to dwarf the current one into insignificance, while

Actually, the current influx of 1 million young men per year into Germany will be enough to swamp it in a few years. Sure, Germany's population is over 80 million, but it's very elderly-heavy. Only 2,164,780 are men aged 20-24, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

e. Europe's traitor class still let them in until it was too late to fight back.

Having Britain and Switzerland outside the Caliphate doesn't really make sense to me. Both countries are heavily infested with Muslims, and yet the UK recently considered banning Trump. And then there's Rotherham. Until Merkel's recent idiocy, I actually considered France or Britain as more appropriate settings than Germany.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2016 4:15 PM  

Is there a consensus that one of these three paths is what eventually channels native Germans (and/or Europeans in general) when really large numbers of non-invaders have nothing left to lose?

I have difficulty seeing past the veil of that transition. Very few people alive today have experienced the kind of rage and desperation that seem guaranteed in the near future.

In a heavily armed populace like that of the USA, a modicum of such desperate people would create a Sarajevo-style shooting gallery. Is Germany too full of sheep to do so?

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 25, 2016 4:18 PM  

@32

Trump is currently winning because he's tapping into a previously untapped well of American resentment. He's not going to gin up that same support in favor of defending European governments against the kind of popular uprising that got him elected, even if he might try it.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 4:20 PM  

George W Bush's I.Q. could fit in Trump's shirt pocket. That guy is a pimple on Trump's ass at best.

IQ doesn't change what you do, it only changes how well you do it.

What are the Bush's excuse for playing golf with Clinton?

And now I know you are arguing disingenuously. This may surprise you, but the Bushes are going to burn in hell and I am going to watch for a few centuries with a bottomless bucket of popcorn.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2016 4:21 PM  

1. The rise of the Nazi party had much to do with the Treaty of Versailles, did it not? Nothing like that today. I don't see why the worry about Hitler's Ghost.

That said....

2. Germans today seem cowed by war guilt, but they also have amnesia about the millions starved to death (on purpose) immediately after the war. Much could change on a dime if the Mass Mind of Germany suddenly recalls that starvation blockades were England's favorite war and post-war tactic, and US politicians seemed content to let the Hun-Haters in Great Britain call the shots.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 25, 2016 4:22 PM  

Where do moslem heads on pikes and even gay nurses willing to poison over 1000 moslems fit into these 3 scenarios?

Maybe I'm underestimating the migrants, but my feeling is that they are nearly 100% opportunistic vermin. Stop feeding them and they die

I am confidant that anti looting measures will be needed to actually starve them to death. The good news is they will rob those that believe in equality first. Even Myanmar kicked out moslems with little problems, but you wouldn't know it from watching Madame Secretary.

Good news One Golden Dawn vs 30 anarchists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfUolJ3MVpI

And I can't get upset at the prospect of SJWs being stripped of citizenship for their clearly expressed hatred of Whites and Western civilization, and put to useful labor.

The useful labor part have you meet any SJWs?

Perhaps one out of ten Germans are with us, which is huge progress, but not a crisis for the system

Only 3 percent of American colonists fought the British.

George W Bush's I.Q. could fit in Trump's shirt pocket.

Bush was smart enough to fly jets, bath house Barry Obama has trouble going through gates with umbrellas.

I highly doubt Clinton is gonna be playing at Trump's courses again after what Trump has publicly said about him

Did Trump decide to only hire ugly women at his facilities. Trump could get Barmy Frank to show up at a party if he put out a platter of dicks from planned parenthood.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 4:27 PM  

"IQ doesn't change what you do, it only changes how well you do it."

It changes who you listen to. Which determines what you do.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 4:29 PM  

"And now I know you are arguing disingenuously. This may surprise you, but the Bushes are going to burn in hell and I am going to watch for a few centuries with a bottomless bucket of popcorn."

Save me a seat. I'll bring the beverages.

Anonymous map January 25, 2016 4:35 PM  

The model is Augusto Pinochet, not Hitler.

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2016 4:41 PM  

42. BigGayKoranBurner: Even SJWs, faced with the prospect of going without food, can clean up toxic waste sites, scrub toilets, or clean grease traps.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 4:48 PM  

Save me a seat. I'll bring the beverages.

Can do. I wonder if the teetotalers assume there won't be any. You think they ever even wonder about that sort of thing?

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2016 4:53 PM  

26. Tom Kratman: I don't know much about political theory, so I'll take your word for it. I don't really want fascism, I just want as much of my country and culture back as I can get. We had parades, but they weren't military except for a color guard or some veteran's group among the high school bands, horse riding groups, and the local librarians riding on carts pulled by dogs (True).
But we'll have nothing unless we expel the trespassers and those who invited them.

Anonymous Nxx January 25, 2016 4:56 PM  

The useful labor part have you meet any SJWs?

They're hiring at Fukushima.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 25, 2016 4:58 PM  

Speaking of the 1 in 10 over at WRSA today they have a video from an identity group from Germany, worth watching IMO.

Look at it this way, the muslims are bringing us a fight, we might get a chance at Valhalla versus the slow death in Mommy Professors Concentration Camp of Tolerance.

OpenID paworldandtimes January 25, 2016 5:02 PM  

As to a possibility that a US-led coalition runs interference on behalf of rapefugees as they did in Serbia in 1999: does the US have the consensus where it matters to pull it off?

PA

Blogger pyrrhus January 25, 2016 5:06 PM  

"Each enclave will need to control its own food supplies - although it might be possible to starve an immigrant enclave into submission -"

Not only possible, but quite easy....muslims aren't much on farming, and no moslem country can currently feed itself....unless there are still SJWs around who insist on feeding them

Blogger Quadko January 25, 2016 5:07 PM  

@47 - Don't know about those who total the tea, but I take comfort in Mark 14:25 and parallel: "I tell you, I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new [with you] in the kingdom of God".

As for Germany specifically, and Europe & the US generally, I'm considering the Calvin Coolidge quote "The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good." So, how to fill our nations with the right kind of effective good? Justice is the best I've come up with so far - directly opposing the "Social Justice" that is a deceptive euphemism for seeking Equality via the method of delivering injustice and intentionally breaking society's existing justice.

Anonymous glenintenn January 25, 2016 5:07 PM  

Britain already on verge of collapse

Libs cannot even believe Muslim's own words "we own Britain, not you!"

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/9067474

Blogger FP January 25, 2016 5:08 PM  

Meanwhile, back in the USSA:

Glen Beck at Cruz rally, "we are the lifeboat of the world. let them in!"

https://archive.is/qTECH

Blogger James Clifton January 25, 2016 5:12 PM  

I wouldn't rule out a Visegrad invasion.

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 5:19 PM  

Meanwhile, back in the USSA:

Glen Beck at Cruz rally, "we are the lifeboat of the world. let them in!"

https://archive.is/qTECH


Beck Pleads Cruz Rally To Accept Even ‘Marxist Atheists’ Because ‘They Renew Us'

Beck goes full retard. It was bound to happen.

OpenID sigbouncer January 25, 2016 5:20 PM  

"Can do. I wonder if the teetotalers assume there won't be any. You think they ever even wonder about that sort of thing?"

With the percentage of uptight sphincters in that group. One would think their curiosity would be high.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales January 25, 2016 5:25 PM  

This guy is such a cuck. A Fascist Germany wouldn't be horrible, it'd be beautiful.

Anonymous Bastion of Insanity January 25, 2016 5:27 PM  

Glen Beck is a complete fool and tool of the bi-factional ruling party. Saying things like above and "that he'd vote for Bernie before he'd vote for Trump", shows what a total ass hat he is.

Anonymous Bastion of Insanity January 25, 2016 5:30 PM  

@57 you mean he went full Mormon?

Blogger Sevron January 25, 2016 5:32 PM  

Why isn't Civil War an option? The options listed seem to just sort of assume that nobody adapts tactics as things go on. Civil War always seemed the most obvious option to me.

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 5:34 PM  

@57 you mean he went full Mormon?

I'm loath to criticize Mormons as they are the only people I know who can bicycle around in a three-piece suit during the middle of summer without breaking a sweat.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales January 25, 2016 5:42 PM  

@45

Do you know any good online sources that show the situation in Chile before Pinochet took over and just how much of a jerk Allende was?

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 25, 2016 5:53 PM  

@64 Emmanuel Mateo-Morales: Surprisingly, even Wikipedia's entry on Allende hasn't scrubbed all the evidence of "how much of a jerk" he was, you can even read between the lines and discern he was trying to engineer a coup before the counter-coup ended his reign. And the graph of real wages, the cited changes in imports and exports, they're all telling. I suppose a saving grace is that unlike gasoline and oil, doling out cheap copper won't gain you much, he wasn't in the good position Chavez started out from.

Anonymous Cheddarman January 25, 2016 5:55 PM  

I don't see II or III happening. The economy in Europe is gonna tank. The keynsian economic ponzi schemes are going to go bust. The u.s.a. will be too bankrupt and too divided to bail out the muzzies. I don't see white kids from small town usa volunteering to go fight their white cousins in europe...Europe will survive and drive out the invaders, though the cultural center of gravity of europe may shift to the east

Anonymous Cheddarman January 25, 2016 6:01 PM  

And I don't see the current crop of elites weathering this shit storm of their making.

Anonymous Julius January 25, 2016 6:03 PM  

People of Colour have many children

white people do not have as many children

white women are increasingly bearing children of colour

Looks like you Nazis are about to bite the dust.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales January 25, 2016 6:04 PM  

@65

I know. I also know about the letter the Chilean congress made saying how he was destroying democracy in Chile, that Cuban package scandal, how he was taking property left and right, and etc.

However, all of that could easily be disregarded as circumstantial by a died in the wool Pinochet hater and could be said to be the product of years of US interventionism in the country to stop the red menace.

I need something airtight. Something so airtight, that the Pinochet hater, if he is honest, will admit that, although Pinochet was a shit-head himself, he was the best option of a list of options that all sucked Bruce Jenner's cutt-off cock through a coffee straw.

Anonymous Wyrd January 25, 2016 6:06 PM  

People of Colour have many children

white people do not have as many children

white women are increasingly bearing children of colour

Looks like you Nazis are about to bite the dust.


Thanks for the heads-up, Stink-Nugget.

Anonymous Crank January 25, 2016 6:11 PM  

@51

This is not the 1990s. American people have seen Islam, and it's soldiers have seen it up close. It would presently be absolutely impossible to muster up political support for military action in favor of muslims against non-muslims - or certainly not against European non-muslims.

Blogger The Pathetic Earthling January 25, 2016 6:23 PM  

You may not quite be arguing this point, but I think there is very little risk of an Islamic France inheriting its modern nuclear weapons program. More likely is that the the French military, loyal to the classic French state, would see to it that the weapons are passed over to the British or, more likely, rendered inoperable. Hydrogen bombs are precision instruments and require a considerable upkeep which the French can do and non-professionals cannot.

This is not to say that some of the materials couldn't be kept together to produce a workable nuclear arsenal on a much smaller scale, but ISIS and the like -- while they can operate stolen M-1s and stolen MiG-21s -- are going to have a harder time operating the entire logistics chain required of a modern nuclear arsenal.

Further to the point, South Africa's apartheid government made sure to destroy its own nuclear weapons program in 1989 once it realized that they'd shortly not be in charge.

Blogger VD January 25, 2016 6:34 PM  

Looks like you Nazis are about to bite the dust.

If that ever happened, you'll all starve. But it won't happen, because now it only takes one Nazi scientist to wipe all the Untermenschen out.

I wonder which side will win the genetic plague wars?

Blogger John Williams January 25, 2016 6:46 PM  

@35, They've been old buddies since Bush's CIA first flew coke into Bill's Mena airport.

Blogger Sean January 25, 2016 6:47 PM  

@68

Its true that the percentage of population that is white will drop. Its equally true that there is mixing. But it is also true that many of those mixed race kids will also marry white chicks (because they are hotter). Their descendants will some day consider themselves European. And White. And when our birth rate kicks up again, and the time for reconquest has come, they will fight to drive out the occupiers.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 25, 2016 7:04 PM  

Again he uses fascist when he means authoritarian or totalitarian, which is a big lefty tell.

Calling any non-far-left regime fascist is pure virtue signalling with no other semantic content. What he really means is that the only effective curative would be worse (in his eyes) than the problem. He just knows he will instantly lose his audience if he says it that plainly.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2016 7:07 PM  

People of Colour have many children

white people do not have as many children

white women are increasingly bearing children of colour

Looks like you Nazis are about to bite the dust.


Isn't honesty refreshing?

OpenID paworldandtimes January 25, 2016 7:09 PM  

many of those mixed race kids will also marry white chicks

It's best to resist describing mixing/dilution as a score for optimism in any manner. The one-drop rule keeps a clean pool.

Better to think of Europeans as never having needed raw numbers -- their strength is in concentrated quality.

PA

OpenID paworldandtimes January 25, 2016 7:12 PM  

To any readers unfamiliar with that troll, he's been around for a long time. He doesn't do dialectic or rhetoric. He just drops turds.

He infested Chuck R's old GLPiggy blog a few years ago. I spammed a comment of his on my this morning.

PA

Anonymous Epimandes January 25, 2016 7:14 PM  

If that ever happened, you'll all starve

Because Nairobi is a desolate wasteland of mudhuts where people are amazed that something as hard as glass even exists, not a thriving African metropolis. Just admit it: you think Alexander Stephens was right when he said that the CSA should be based "upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition." This is why you hate the North: because, again in the phraseology of Stephens, "They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it—when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 25, 2016 7:19 PM  

@75

They are going to be marrying the dudes not the chicks, for proof of that just look at every other manosphere blog posting within the last 5 years.

Anonymous Jay Will January 25, 2016 7:20 PM  

This post is complete bs. I know its bs because it plays the same game as the US and its elite alliance do in the ME. It assumes the sovereignty of the "German Government" and "Merkel", the same way we here about the "evil" Saddam or the "evil" Assad. Or the "leftist" Obama (Obama loves being famous and important, he gives no fucks about anything else).

Merkel has NO POWER WHATSOEVER just like Obama. They are FUCKIN SHILLS. She is doing what her boss tells her to do. Her boss is YOUR government. The whole EU game is AMERICAN/JEW FOREIGN POLICY.

"However, I rather doubt that the European Governments will have the nerve to embrace such measures"

Utter BS. They are owned by YOUR people. We are the American empire. We are its outpost. And the yanks intend to create war here for whatever reason. It is the fake lying "charity" culture that they hide behind. YOU are sending them to us through your bought and paid for "activists". Soros is a fucking AMERICAN! There is no fucking democracy. Its lies that makes people not aware. If they knew what is about to happen they would want to kill. The US want war in Europe for their own ends and ALL deaths are justified. Cameron and all the other lying scum are not "leftists" or "traitors" they are followers of their real leader the US Govt. He will fly to safety if it kicks off, to YOUR COUNTRY.

Immivasion is to create war in Europe the same way the scum US/Jew/Euro elite wants war in the ME by subsidising "rebels". Our politicans suck your dick. We are sitting ducks. None of the scum elites will die they will target "prole" areas. Now I know why citizens need guns! I'd rather die shooting my enemy than be a sheep waiting for slaughter.

Most of you are US on here(?) and won't lose one minute of sleep if millions are killed here. Vox has said it before this doesn't have to happen, this could have been prevented. The elites are going to win again and create a new narrative after mass war. After war people will want to be safe they will believe any bullshit you tell them if food is going to be put on the table. The surviving percentage will just be happy to be alive.

Theres nothing I can do. I say things but I'm already a wrong un, just another rant off the guy with no girlfriend and no life.

OpenID sigsawyer January 25, 2016 7:20 PM  

Not that I expect the Germans to abandon their natural authoritarianism, but nationalist movements are not necessarily fascist. Fascism is a combination of statism and nationalism, its premise is that the people must show love, loyalty, and duty towards the nation while the state has the authority to define what constitutes the nation.

In other words, the nation has a duty to the state, or more specifically a number of elites who hold arbitrary power but do not see themselves necessarily as part of the nation. Rather, the nationalist sentiment is merely a tool to be used to control the people.

In traditional societies it was the state that had a duty to the nation, an arrangement that was preserved through the social glue of Christianity. With WWI and the end of Christianity as a guiding force for European nation-states, the West devolved into a power struggle between statist-nationalist regimes such as Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan and statist-globalist regimes such as the US and the USSR.

Without religion, a hyper-capable few will control the populace so tightly that it will ultimately fail to become a great society due to the damage collectivism causes to the European spirit.

Without religion there is no archeo-nationalism

(Of course, statism-nationalism is de facto in Asian civilization)

Blogger David Adams January 25, 2016 7:34 PM  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3416343/Sweden-asylum-worker-22-stabbed-death-frenzied-attack-CHILD-migrant-centre-refugee-boy-15-arrested-murder.html#comments

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 7:43 PM  

Goodbye Germany - in a photo.
Ain't Merkel's pets just so nice?

Blogger haus frau January 25, 2016 7:45 PM  

All this talk talk of a Muslim caliphate in Europe. Every time I hear it I think of the video of the muslim migrant fondling a manikin somewhere outside a shop in Europe. The bulk of these people definitely aren't the cream of the crop even in their own societies. If someone bothered to do the screening I predict they would find a far higher rate of psychiatric and substance abuse issues in these migrants than what is found in their own countries of origin, which is likely higher still than anywhere in Europe given the Muslim penchant for inbreeding. These are not quality shock troops. They are stupid, undisciplined, short-term thinkers. Look at the way they openly antagonize the natives in just the short time they've been there. Unless they can numerically swamp the populations of Europe far faster than they are, they will need the assistance of the native government to just remain in Europe let alone gain political/military power. At some point the police and military as individuals, will be out-grouped from their own countrymen for working on behalf of these violent, ingrate freeloaders. They will have to choose between dirty migrants and their own people. Throw in the collapse of the welfare state that lures in and sustains these vermin and there is a natural, bloody end to this situation.

Anonymous BGKB January 25, 2016 7:50 PM  

People of Colour have many children white people do not have as many children

Only because white people give food & medicine aid, also you missed ONE GOLDEN DAWN vs 30 Anarchists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfUolJ3MVpI Who will feed the monkeys when the white man is gone?

I'm loath to criticize Mormons as they are the only people I know who can bicycle around in a three-piece suit during the middle of summer

Its their magic T shirts.

white women are increasingly bearing children of colour

It will be the ugliest poor white guys that marry dieversecity. Some of the ugliest men, including a dwarf, I have ever seen are with black women. Without affirmative action/EBT there will be no significant number of non Asian minorities with money.

In fact my BF and I moved from Die Verse City to Whitopia with the assumption that die verse cities will have their power knocked out right at the beginning on the month so the free stuff army of groids will tear them apart. As all govt forces try to restore order they will be too busy to deal with anything other than the chimpouts.

Cameron and all the other lying scum are not "leftists" or "traitors" they are followers of their real leader the US Govt

Soros is not the US govt, he just bribes people to ignore his financial crimes.

war in Europe the same way the scum US/Jew/Euro elite wants war in the ME by subsidising "rebels". Our politicans suck your dick

Its not as good as it sounds, Cameron scrapes with his teeth.

Not that I expect the Germans to abandon their natural authoritarianism, but nationalist movements are not necessarily fascist

All you need is someone with a nice fake uniform with lots of medals saying Ausländer aus

Blogger Sean January 25, 2016 7:51 PM  

@78

Regardless, it will happen. We should encourage them to identify with the native peoples of europe, and not their colonial heritage. They will be more likely to marry a European, and thus becomes totally submerged. That way, it is a net gain for us.

If purity is important, then think of their colonial heritage as a scar, not a flaw.

Blogger Cynicism January 25, 2016 7:53 PM  

Germans are naturally obedient sheep, one of the most easily-controlled populations on earth. And this generation is doubleplus brainwashed for good measure. No percentage of them worth talking about will do anything to stop the tide. They will mindlessly obey their government right up until one of Allah's snackbar brigades chops their collective head off. And their friends and family will learn absolutely nothing from it, because the glorious and all-powerful state tells them not to.

Germany is done. Pray it doesn't take the entire white race with it.

Blogger tz January 25, 2016 8:01 PM  

If that ever happened, you'll all starve. added to the enclaves would need to control their food supply for the balkanization option.

A lot of the technology, particularly logistics, is dependent on a lot of civilization, the internet, and other brittle things. Food itself will be a big problem even if there are farmers since many of them are dependent.

Do any of them know how to grow food anymore? Refine oil or even have enough horses for transport?

California would have a hard time getting food from the imperial valley to the cities on the other side of the mountains. I can think of other areas where the supply lines are longer (I think the cities in "Victoria" would have starved first, then turned violent). The USSR couldn't feed itself. China had problems. Venezuela is failing.

Even water will be a problem. How many of these refugees know the basic skills that keep things going? Especially in the Muslim communities, "halal" meat comes from the grocery.

They may be called "preppers" but they realize what is going to happen to the financial system, and are "going Galt" - if you've read Atlas Shrugged, the men of mind grew vegetables in Galt's Gulch. They didn't want to be dependent. And the rest of the story is the over-regulated dystopia falling apart, slowly, but also with crashes.

Meanwhile I've rediscovered Stephan Molyneux - The first anarcho-libertarian I've found that recognized r/K selection, how women are evil, that importing barbarians across open borders destroys liberty. Originally (way back when his original articles at LRC) he was either more naive, or just didn't discuss the prerequisites. Now, he gets it https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w - he even understand Trump. And he's entertaining.

Molyneux makes the point that what we got - the freedom and liberty - was a product of 2500 years of Western Civilization and although an atheist, does thank Christendom. But the product, and the template needs to be followed. When it is rejected, we fall back into the dark ages. Those from Mexico and Central America are bringing their dystopia with them, as are Muslim "refugees".

Even if they get the Caliphate, can they provide for everyone so they don't starve when there is no more plunder.

Blogger YIH January 25, 2016 8:02 PM  

Via Le Chateau:
Merchant, thank you for your brilliant insights. Where would I be without your 1 standard deviation higher IQ? You are truly my greatest ally… sarc

Anonymous Jay Will January 25, 2016 8:27 PM  

"Not that I expect the Germans to abandon their natural authoritarianism"

What is this? They were conquered 70 years ago, they have NO MILITARY. What are you talking about? Whats their gun per citizen ratio? What "authoritarian" country would have no military and no guns? They are a defeated nation, YOU defeated them. They are your outpost and they have fitted YOUR purpose. Its conquest talk. Pray that your oh so fuckin holy US empire doesn't get crushed because if we are going to get it to, your supposed allies, and we know it was YOU, then EVERYONE will hate you. The whole world is a serious opponent. What if Russia, China, a smashed Europe and a shit ton of angry mooks all wanted YOUR blood? Its not that unlikely is it? Take your nuclear arsenal away and what are you? Your national spirit is dead your full of the same saps as we are in Europe. Is pajama boy and his mates going to help you? The high heeled boys in the army?

Its becoming clearer to more and more people that its the US/Jew/Euro elite alliance that is the heart of all this "refugee" crisis crap. YOU are sending them to us, your outpost, its served its purpose. Its old. Its unarmed. Its been fully Jewified. Its ripe for execution. Whether its the army of orcs forged out of the ruins of the ME Jew wars, or you just go full nuke. And none of will you care, just like I would give no fucks the other way round. Thats life, people die, there will be war, don't lose.

If what I said is true, and YOU don't kill us all. What do you think the world will think of you Yank? Theres a lot of people to kill isn't there? The City on the Hill. The Lovers of Freedom. What if you ain't invincible? Millions have died in US wars against the "commie" and various other forms of "evil". Its not so unlikely that one day you will labelled the "evil" ones. Easy to be cocky when your winning.

Lots will die if this goes as it is MEANT TO, but lots know what is going on. If it happens on your watch lots will ALL hate you, FOREVER. So best make sure your boys win big.

Anonymous Jay Will January 25, 2016 8:32 PM  

@89

"Germans are naturally obedient sheep, one of the most easily-controlled populations on earth. And this generation is doubleplus brainwashed for good measure. No percentage of them worth talking about will do anything to stop the tide. They will mindlessly obey their government"

The US bought politicians will mindlessly follow their US masters. Who knows what the average German with any balls thinks. The Immivasion is a US led attack on old Europe.

Anonymous hapsburg peasant January 25, 2016 8:53 PM  

After reading all three parts of this it's pretty clear the author is jewish. There is no mention of jewish influence anywhere, all these things just happened, jews "dindu nuffins", no pushing of multikulti, nothing.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 25, 2016 9:17 PM  

I'm not seeing any downsides to the fascism option relative to the current state of affairs in Germany. The author assumes present day Germany isn't a place where opinions are censored and where people are imprisoned for politically unapproved speech, music, etc. The only difference would be that under fascism these restrictions would target leftists and foreigners and be intended to benefit the native population.

Anonymous Jay Will January 25, 2016 9:23 PM  

"It would probably take a joint American-Russian invasion to put a stop to the reoccurrence of a historical nightmare, but almost certainly they would be too late to stop millions upon millions of people from dying, or worse."

Haha brilliant. And presumably the nightmare that you talk about would be prevented by the might of the US empire (if the others want us dead, Russia, China we are dead). And in order to do it you will conveniently have to kill millions to do it. What a fuckin saviour! Freedom! When I hear a US president say "freedom" I know people are about to get killed. Usually lots of them. The Iraqi's were overjoyed when the US in freeing them from the evil dictator Saddam just happened to wipe out some meaningless number of faceless mooks.

The Muslim Immivasion is a US led invasion of Europe, its a proxy army for their ulterior motives, it has nothing to do with Islam. Much like ISIS is a Jew/US creation to de-stabilize Israel's enemies. Nobody wants it here, shit libs don't exist in any significant numbers (they are all shills or uni scum). They want the rise of Islam in Europe to justify their end goals, all deaths are justified, no American will care. YOU are creating a war that lots will die in. Pray that you superior intelligence, and superior warfare wins.

The new narrative is being generated that war in Europe will have "just happened". Its like a natural disaster. Or perhaps explained by the soft pathological altruism of old weak Europe. However it is explained, the solution is the same mass wipeout over here. And given all you on here won't want to send yourself or your kids into war then it will be nukes that do it.

Vox lives in Europe doesn't he? Bet he's moved back or is ready to move back. Think about it. All that horrible debt, all that unsustainable Euro "socialism" (forget about the logic, it makes the US the biggest commie regime of all time, how many pages of tax laws?). What about creating a war there to wipe the debt out!!Yes!! Yes!! Dear boy you have it, thats what it is.

Send the Muslims in, let whitey get angry again, then we shall maintain the narrative of freedom via death. Nuke the warring nationalists and pave the way for the the reset and peace out of chaos.




Anonymous Godfrey January 25, 2016 9:46 PM  

Israel has a wall.

Anonymous Godfrey January 25, 2016 9:56 PM  

@68

The global elites have a plan to reduce world population by 90%. You're next dummy.

I recommend you educate yourself. Start by ready the Jaffe Memo.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 25, 2016 10:02 PM  

Possible good news

"According to police the scene (Hostel) was attended by around 120 cars with 3-4 men in each. The "southerners", the Arabs and the Moroccans, tried to resist and fired guns. But they were beaten with baseball bats and bar stools. The "Rusaki" (as the Russian migrants in Germany call themselves) strolled across all floors — said the source to "top secret" about the number of Russian migrants residing in Germany.

According to the source, the cause of the massacre could be the rape of the displaced 13-year-old Russian girl Lisa. As was previously reported by the media, in Berlin a group of refugees for over 30 hours raped a 13-year-old schoolgirl. The child was kidnapped on January 11, near the railway station when she was returning home from school."
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2016/01/russians-teach-migrants-lesson-in.html

Anonymous Godfrey January 25, 2016 10:05 PM  

The global elites are waging a war on humanity. They hate us all. 90% of us are to "disappear."

OpenID luciussomesuch January 25, 2016 10:05 PM  

SciVo: "They have had generations to ponder what they did wrong, analyzing every level separately and together. Guilt-tripped and forced to ruminate on it -- barfing up the vomit of their horribleness to chew on it some more, over and over again.

I don't know about you, but I'm half German genetically, and I would not be able to help also considering how to simply get a different outcome."

--I'm just Scots-Irish, but it may be no exaggeration to say that there hasn't been a day since I was 12 where I haven't mentally refought Kursk somehow to give Hitler and Manstein a win.

Blogger Dire Badger January 25, 2016 11:44 PM  

@Jay Will-

Incorrect attribution. The US are slaves every bit as much as your people. The ones pulling the strings are not 'Americans', they have divorced themselves from any nation or population and are gleefully 'transnational'.

Many (not all) of them got their start here in the US, but that is only because this country was fertile and safe for their ideological tinkering to begin. But make no mistake, the tribe that is running Merkel is the same one running the US... but they are not 'american' and never have been.

OpenID Jack Amok January 26, 2016 12:15 AM  

Germans today seem cowed by war guilt

Seem? Hmmm, what sort of a tell is that?

The older Germans have war guilt. The younger ones don't give a rat's ass about what their great granddad may or may not have done.

I wonder which side will win the genetic plague wars?

I'm going to guess it won't be the side that doesn't know how to use toilets and wipes their ass with their hand.

Anonymous SevenCrimes January 26, 2016 12:39 AM  

People of Colour have many children

white people do not have as many children

white women are increasingly bearing children of colour

Looks like you Nazis are about to bite the dust.


It's very easy to kill people faster than they can breed, and what with you geniuses outright declaring that your goal is white genocide, spiking the ball on the 40-yard-line, you've made anything done to counter you entirely moral and legitimate.

Anything.

What I'm saying is, we'd really appreciate it if you and your fellows would convert your wardrobes to biodegradable clothing. It'll save us a lot of work.

Anonymous cincinnatus January 26, 2016 12:57 AM  

@91 YIH

According to that, AfD has 17% support among German men (nearly as high as for the SPD), but only 2% among German women, who seem to like those Green boneheads.

De-suffrage females now.

Blogger Sherwood family January 26, 2016 1:29 AM  

Genetic plague wars? That's one of those thing I would rather see remain science fiction.

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Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 26, 2016 3:09 AM  

@25. Discard ...France managed to conquer a whole lot of territory that belonged to other without being despotic.

*cough*

France? Not despotic? Which France is that?

From Louis XIV who introduced the world to absolutism through the "little corporal" who micromanaged a whole empire to the the current politburo of traitorous hobbits dictating the edicts of EUrostan central nowadays, I can't see a time when France wasn't run by a despot. Its written history literally began by being conquered by the great despot Jules Cesar.

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 3:24 AM  

109. Fnord Prefect: IIRC, The French Empire in sub-Saharan Africa dated from the beginnings of the Third Republic in the 1870s. Same for French Indochina. Yes, they have never been as free as we once were, but who has? My point is that attacking your neighbors and despotism are not linked. Specifically, you can have Fascism in your own country without being any more threat to your neighbors than if you were a parliamentary democracy or a tribal confederation. Which is not to say that parliamentary democracies or tribal confederations can't be threatening too.

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 3:26 AM  

Correction: Replace "neighbors" with "other countries". Central Africa and S.E. Asia were not neighbors of France.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 26, 2016 4:21 AM  

110. Discard
I would say that France itself disproves your theory.

Modern France is defined by the logistical limits of Louis XIV absolutist army. The rich regional principalities, cultures, languages, were wiped out and replaced by one of the most centralised, monoculture bureaucracies that dares call itself "democratic" (apart from the cheese - they need some form of self-expression).
cf Vendee/La Rochelle/

The only limits to the spread of Louis XIV's despotism were geographical. They would have spread further if not for the various mountain ranges and the unsuitability of the dutch countryside for cavalry to the north. And once the "revolution" moved to a more infantry based army they spread further into those areas.

And it continues today, billions of euros in subsidies are available for french language media, not one centime for breton or regional languages...EVERYTHING happens in Paris and is forced on the regions. Regional politicians are not allowed to govern where they are from to avoid building a power-base...etc...etc...

France is a textbook example of how a strong, centralised government spreads to the maximum possible limits unless restricted by geography or a stronger neighbour.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 26, 2016 4:25 AM  

The global elites are waging a war on humanity. They hate us all. 90% of us are to "disappear."

90% is optimistic.

Genetic plague wars? That's one of those thing I would rather see remain science fiction.

Alas, the Chinese geneticists didn't ask any of us. Nuke the planet, Aoli 2016.

What I'm saying is, we'd really appreciate it if you and your fellows would convert your wardrobes to biodegradable clothing. It'll save us a lot of work.

Oh shiiiiii....

Anonymous Jay Will January 26, 2016 4:41 AM  

@103

Yes I realise that most Americans don't understand this. And it is not literally YOUR war. But without the US war machine and international network of sycophantic liars behind it none of this has to happen. That war machine is funded by all of the US tax money.

Put it this way. An outside force start dropping bombs on you. Are you going to care that some of the people funding your death didn't realise what they were funding and had little choice in it? You won't care they will all seem like the enemy.

Anonymous Bz January 26, 2016 4:46 AM  

"we'd really appreciate it if you and your fellows would convert your wardrobes to biodegradable clothing. It'll save us a lot of work."

Compost everything!

Blogger Desiderius January 26, 2016 5:15 AM  

"Beck goes full retard. It was bound to happen."

Beck's always been full retard.

He's the poster-child for the gelding of American Conservatism.

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 5:48 AM  

112. Fnord Prefect: That's interesting. But aren't the boundaries of France largely determined by the presence of people who speak one French dialect or another? Only the Walloons of Belgium and the French Swiss lie outside the grasp of Paris. I know about the language impositions of the Ministry of Culture, similar to enforced Castilian dominance in Spain, but did they turn Germans and Spaniards into Frenchmen?

BTW, isn't wine also a distinctly regional product?

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 26, 2016 6:34 AM  

...presence of people who speak one French dialect or another?

Absolutely not. The complete opposite in fact.

French imperialism is first and foremost linguistic. The Langues d'oïl was imposed in place of occitan (langue d'oc), Franco-Provençal and not to mention Breton (which had more in common with Welsh than French) or Basque (which is linguistically unique) as the regions were annexed or conquered by the crown.

To this day, "French" is a centrally controlled (cf. l'academie francaise) monolithic language even down to the accent: foreigners and people with regional accents are subtitled on French TV (and the text is not what they said but what they should have said) and fully subsidised - no French language TV, newspaper, book, film, radio or magazine is profitable without subsidies.

Every use of a foreign language must be simultaneously translated, radio stations can only play a few hours of non-french music per day and beyond a few international news channels you cannot receive english TV through the normal channels (whereas every other minority has its own bouquet of channels easily available)

Look at the surrounding countries: France is the only one (maybe Germany too?) with one single "official" language.

I haven't studied it much but there also seems to be a strong correlation between the socialist attitudes of Quebecois and speaking French. Superficially at least, it seems that French language, (centrally controlled, strict grammar, limited vocabulary) like Orwellian newspeak, is predisposed for collectivism.

PS. the different kinds of wine are a product of the terroir rather than the cultural expression allowed through cheese ;)

Blogger Jack Ward January 26, 2016 8:35 AM  

@74 VD
"I wonder who will win the genetic plague wars?


The ones who have their scientists develop absolutely foolproof genetic testing protocols that will prove who has had any changes to their genomes; at all.
Then, the degree of ruthless will come into play.
Question, though. Who the heck sets the standards for what is genetically pure?

Reminds me, a little, of the novel Slan.

Anonymous VFM 4779 January 26, 2016 10:12 AM  

@118 - granted that the Languedoc was conquered, but you're really going back in time for that - you're talking Third Crusade, really. Does it make sense to collapse five hundred years under the name "Louis XIV"?

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 26, 2016 11:02 AM  

Does it make sense to collapse five hundred years under the name "Louis XIV"?

My point is that modern France is a centralised, authoritarian dictatorship that has expanded to the maximum extent of its logistical limitations (and I would add that it then assisted the creation the EU to expand even further under the auspices of a franco-allemand empire). The very exemplum of a dictatorship - always seeking to expand.

Of course it started small. How is that an argument against what it is now?

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 26, 2016 11:07 AM  

and btw Languedoc was annexed in c16th, as removed from the epoch of the Crusades as we are from the Renaissance.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 26, 2016 12:15 PM  

Over an 17 year period the U.K. police were not on the side of their countrywomen: "Rotherham trial: Girl’s diary detailing abuse ‘disappeared’ after being given to police"

One of the saving graces of US law enforcement is that it is not nationalized so to a certain extent they have to answer to the localities that employ them. Between that, the lower relative rate of Immigrant Invaders arriving compared to our population (then again they got started a long time ago), our being much less crowded than Europe, and our Latin American invaders being less criminal (maybe) and certainly much less aggressive, our timelines will differ.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 26, 2016 12:49 PM  

Cinncinatus:

One has to pay attention to details. Where did I say the UK bomb went off? It's a city buster so how much of Britain's traitor class survives that? And then Harry, with the Army, his brother and father being dead, becomes a real king, dumps the Eu, and then rounds up and dumps the Moslems back into the EU which insists they're citizens.

If you make the presumption that I haven't thought things through, it's probably that you need to read more carefully.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 26, 2016 12:58 PM  

Dis: It's only my theory. However, as far as I know, every analyst of Fascism (except me) gets hooked on the symbols and the theater, and misses the underlying rationale that drives those, that man is an irrational, emotional, and instinctive critter, by and large, and cannot be improved much, and not especially reliably, by either memes or genes, nor both working together.

There's no racism in Fascism, as near as I can tell. Go look at the lyrics to Faccetta Nera sometime and note the little black face, the freed former Abyssinian slave girl, is going to come to Rome and _become_ an Italian.

Why do political scientists, to the extent that isn't a contradiction in terms, insist on defining fascism by the outward symptoms? One suspects because it's easier, thereafter, to call anything one doesn't like "fascist," however little the term fits.

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 2:43 PM  

Fnord Prefect: I'm still not convinced that despotism is any more disposed to territorial expansion than others systems of government, given the 19th Century examples of Britain, Holland, and the USA, but I do appreciate the schooling on France. Any book recommendations on France in general for the curious non-scholar?

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 3:04 PM  

Tom Kratman: My guess is that political scientists, being mostly leftists, focus on the trappings of fascism to avoid noticing any similarities with their own faith. If you can look deep into the underlying rationale of one, why not the other? Or maybe it's not even as deep as that. Perhaps to them, fascism is not an ideology but simply a stick to beat others with.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 26, 2016 3:20 PM  

@126. Discard I'm still not convinced that despotism is any more disposed to territorial expansion than others systems of government

I actually agree despotism isn't any worse but I think all governments expand as much as they can then enter transnational agreements ultimately aiming for world government...but that's just me. And I found using France (a despotic, expansionist, linguistic hegemony) an odd example to prove otherwise ;)

A reasonably straightforward book that contrasts French culture with British (anglo saxon?) culture is Talk To The Snail by Stephen Clarke
Nominally it's a comedy book but is does highlight aspects of French culture that others find a bit odd.

Most of my research is reading up on various topics after 20 years of living here as an outsider and turning a critical eye to the things people here accept as immutable truths which people living only 20 miles away find completely alien.

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 3:38 PM  

Fnord Prefect: Thanks.

Blogger Jed Evnull January 26, 2016 6:21 PM  

>>what Hitler would have done, faced with a howling mob of invaders?

Blow his brains out?

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 26, 2016 8:17 PM  

@130
Flee to Argentina?

Blogger Jed Evnull January 26, 2016 8:21 PM  

>>what Hitler would have done, faced with a howling mob of invaders?

Blow his brains out?

Anonymous Discard January 26, 2016 10:14 PM  

Fnord Prefect: On thinking about it, this business of French people in one place having certain beliefs that other French people 20 miles away find completely alien is a demonstration of the failure of the French state to homogenize its subjects. Bless their pointed little, genuinely diverse, heads. Perhaps it's the cheese?

Thanks again for the scoop.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 27, 2016 3:02 AM  

133. Discard

By "the people 20 miles away..." I meant the English (its the width of the English channel). No, the French are absolutely on message with everyone from Guiana to Guadeloupe (which are considered "France" btw, not colonies but actual France as if they were contiguous with the mainland) on board with whatever message the government is shilling. The cheese making is the only thing they don't agree on.

Anonymous Discard January 27, 2016 3:46 AM  

My error, Fnord. I had imagined French villagers healthily living and working in their traditional ways, indifferent to whatever the folks in the next valley might be doing. I'm disappointed.

I recall that Algeria was considered to be part of France, but the Algerians were not. I had a teacher who was a Pied Noir, as the overseas French were called when they had to go back to France. She felt unwelcome in France and so came to the U.S. The government may have claimed Algeria, but the man in the street did not even accept his own blood if it had been born across the Mediterranean.

BTW, maybe you can help me out. My wife and I might go to France in a year or two. Have you favorite small cities or towns not on the regular tourist route?

Anonymous cincinnatus January 27, 2016 1:15 PM  

Cinncinatus:

One has to pay attention to details. Where did I say the UK bomb went off? It's a city buster so how much of Britain's traitor class survives that? And then Harry, with the Army, his brother and father being dead, becomes a real king, dumps the Eu, and then rounds up and dumps the Moslems back into the EU which insists they're citizens.

If you make the presumption that I haven't thought things through, it's probably that you need to read more carefully.


@124 Tom Kratman
I understand, and I figured that's what you'd be going for.

But something tells me that Britons are so horribly blinkered that even nuking London wouldn't make them get rid of their Paki infestation.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2016 1:36 PM  

I suspect it would be enough, once the Army backed Harry as King...a real king.

Oh, and I forgot something. Switzerland because they're still broadly well armed and take arms and war fairly seriously. Five or so percent Moslems is smaller than the mobilized Army. Thus is, I think, not true anywhere else in western Europe.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect January 28, 2016 3:45 PM  

@135 Discard
French is a predominantly rural culture and the "traditional" lifestyle is still ongoing but I don't think it will be for much longer. The gov are specifically targeting these places with migrants and gypsies to homogenises them with the problematic cities (socialism is about everybody being up to their knees in the same level of shit).

As for visiting - that a huge subject. It really depends what you want to see history? culture? nature?

If you stay away from Paris (or spend just a couple of days when you fly in/out to see the highlights) and the Mediterranean coast in summer and the alps in winter nowhere is that that touristic; even Paris is pretty deserted in the Summer as the Parisians migrate south.

The Loire castle are usually over run too during the holidays.

Wine tours are always good - but you need to decide which region Bordeaux/Burgundy/etc.

I like the Camargue region and the South West with medieval walled towns like Aigues-Mortes, Arles for the Roman remains, : west to Toulouse via Montpellier, Narbonne (avoiding the coast if its summer) Carcasson then up to Bordeaux with your choice of rustic villages or national parks on the way (and the obligatory wine tasting) maybe a jaunt up the coast to La Rochelle?

If you are not tied to school holidays try to avoid them because everything is more busy during the holidays. You can get the dates from government site because (surprise, surprise) they are centralised across the whole country with overlapping zones.

Again, its hard to advise you without knowing something of your interests or travel plans - mail me at v f m 4 7 5 9 (at) s f r (dot) f r [remove all spaces] with specifics and I’ll see what I can do.

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