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Friday, January 22, 2016

National Review against America

A helpful list of all the National Review contributors who are against both Donald Trump and the American national interest.


National Review is so desperate to prop up its fading anti-nationalist conservatism that it has turned its entire magazine into an anti-Trump hit piece.
For months, Republican leaders have worried about how to stop 2016 frontrunner Donald Trump. Now, one of the conservative movement’s most influential publications is taking matters into its own hands.

National Review is dedicating a special issue of its magazine, one week before the Iowa caucuses, to stopping Trump. “Against Trump,” blares the magazine cover. Inside, a blistering editorial questions Trump's commitment to conservatism, warning voters that backing him is tantamount to allowing the conservative movement to have “fallen in behind a huckster.”

"Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones,” the editorial reads.

And that’s just the start.

The National Review issue features anti-Trump essays from more than 20 conservative thinkers, leaders and commentators spanning the GOP’s ideological spectrum from David Boaz, executive vice president of the libertarian-infused Cato Institute, to William Kristol, the hawkish editor of the Weekly Standard, to David McIntosh, president of the Club for Growth. All call for Republicans to nominate someone other than Trump.
Or to put it another way:

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Blogger Sam Lively January 22, 2016 11:33 AM  

Russell Moore's is the worst. Loves nothing better than to lead conservatives in a choral rendition of "I surrender all."

Blogger sillerjf January 22, 2016 11:33 AM  

First!

Hey, where's Krauthammmer?

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 11:33 AM  

Politics is not salvation but it's a fantastic indicator of trend and trend change.

In this regard I love Trump. Someone has to be POTUS, and I'd rather pick a random name out of the phone book than see another Establishment Clown (D or R) in the Oval Office.

The harder everyone from the Establishment piles on, the stronger Trump gets.

Blogger SamuraiJack January 22, 2016 11:35 AM  

Garbage, the whole lot of them are garbage. Beck and Medved particularly make me sick when i hear them. No wonder their ratings are in the tank

Blogger dh January 22, 2016 11:35 AM  

Talk about misreading the situation.

This will lead to a Trump bump from even more base voters. How can any organization that supported Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain and Romney have any hope lay claim to any litmus test on what the GOP should or should not do.

Blogger The Remnant January 22, 2016 11:36 AM  

Fine. This will only serve to demonstrate that the establishment, "left" and "right," is a monolithic menace.

Blogger dh January 22, 2016 11:36 AM  

Talk about misreading the situation.

This will lead to a Trump bump from even more base voters. How can any organization that supported Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain and Romney have any hope lay claim to any litmus test on what the GOP should or should not do.

Anonymous Crusader Corim January 22, 2016 11:36 AM  

This is probably the best news Trump has gotten all week. First Palin endorses him, then the National Review endorses him even harder. Ever since they dump Derb and became Cuckservative central, their opposition has been the best barometer of who to root for.

Blogger rcocean January 22, 2016 11:39 AM  

Cal Thomas is still alive? Who knew.

Anonymous Alexander January 22, 2016 11:40 AM  

Yeah. I was already more-or-less locked into voting for Trump, but if I needed a bump, this was it.

Blogger WATYF January 22, 2016 11:41 AM  

Scott Adams characterized this move as, "the linguistic equivalent of throwing your gun at a monster because the clip is empty."

He's not wrong.

Also, this: http://oi64.tinypic.com/2zefg5e.jpg

WATYF

Anonymous Germanicus January 22, 2016 11:41 AM  

"Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus"

That's pretty rich coming from these dipshits.

Is the second law of Cuckservatives that Cucks also always project? Or is a Cuck just a different type of SJW anyway?

Blogger JDC January 22, 2016 11:41 AM  

I've been listening to Beck off and on for the past two months, and his critique of Trump is centered around having to apologize for Trump's 'thoughtless' and 'embarrassing' comments. Beck really wants a president who won't offend...anybody. Pretty sh**ty metric IMO.

Blogger rcocean January 22, 2016 11:43 AM  

I have a certain amount of respect for Sowell, Bozell, and Ed Meese. The rest i either don't know (who are Reno and Pavlich)? or don't care about. I mean what actual conservative cares about Kristol or Poddy?

Blogger Gordon January 22, 2016 11:44 AM  

Well, you know, Trump's vulgar. NR doesn't like vulgar.

Blogger kudzu bob January 22, 2016 11:45 AM  

This is the most shameful moment in National Review's history since Dec. 30, 1992, when an entire issue of that bought-and-paid-for magazine was devoted to William F. Buckley's treacherous attack on Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran because of those two great and good men's lack of enthusiasm for sending American soldiers abroad to die for Israel.

Blogger Elocutioner January 22, 2016 11:46 AM  

The only disappointments were Bozell and Sowell. Their screeds read like a 12th grader wrote them. Sowell's was particularly stupid - 'Trump is a deal maker. You know who else was? Neville Chamberlain.' Didn't bother with the rest.

Cry moar, cucks. Your non-profit National Review finally jumped the shark with one last primal whimper. I'm sure your sugar daddy is proud at the signalling.

Blogger Bluntobj Winz January 22, 2016 11:50 AM  

Sowell is a bit surprising to me, but the #1 guy on the list, Beck, does not.

I've suspected for a long time that Beck is a mouthpiece for the elite, in that his main job is to soothe away the anger that Christian Americans have with his "stand together and do nothing" campaigns that supposedly show support and resolve for "conservatism" but in the end do nothing to change the status quo. It's an active psyop that physically implements cuckservatism among the unawakened.

This is why Trump will be president. That anger now has an outlet, someone that gives Christian Americans a moral sanction to express it.

Blogger Elocutioner January 22, 2016 11:51 AM  

In case you actually want to read it - http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/22/do-emotions-trump-facts-n2108178

I NEVER expected Sowell to go full potato.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 11:52 AM  

National Review ... gone on the free fall of irrelevancy since Rich Lowry became editor. I was a subscriber for over 10 yrs and shortly after Lowry's ascension, the final purge was completed, I unsubscribed.

NR used to have, at least, some intellectual heavy weights: Bradford, Sobran, Francis, Buchanan, Clyde Wilson, etc. I think that I first learn of Ron Paul reading NR.

Blogger Alexandros January 22, 2016 11:54 AM  

I worry about things like this; normal people usually repeat what they see on television or read in their magazines as if it was their own original thought.

Blogger RobertT January 22, 2016 11:55 AM  

Farook them.

Blogger Sam Lively January 22, 2016 11:57 AM  

Ben Shapiro is a fascinating case study in the Trumplosion of the conservative pundit class.

He's got one foot in Breitbart which has exposed him to emerging nationalism and the cowardice of conservative figureheads in the face of SJW attacks. But he's still ensconced in mainstream conservatism with talk radio, book deals and elitist think tank buddies.

His reaction to this is telling. He's been trying to puncture Trump from a variety of angles, but he's not blind to the idiocy of the National Review coordinated hit piece. He won't turn on them (his beef is that they had to be so obvious about it), but his last line is at least insightful: "they proclaimed their own martyrdom instead of doing something effective."

Who knows, maybe the more sincere patriots and intellectually honest denizens of conservative punditocracy will start to realize that they've met the enemy and he is us.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 22, 2016 11:58 AM  

Dana, so cougar-y, MILF-y, but I guess we can't trust her.

Et tu, Sowell?

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 11:58 AM  

http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996

The linked essay greatly helped me understand Trump's appeal.

Blogger MC227 January 22, 2016 11:58 AM  

These idiots at NR want unfettered immigration. Make no mistake only whitey can uphold western civilization not the illegals invading from the south nor the muslims nor Africans they bring their communist ideals along with diseases, ignorance and a complete lack of wanting to assimilate. They come here get on food stamps, welfare, free healthcare, crime and then multiply like rabbits. They will bring everything they claim they are escaping.

Blogger Sam Lively January 22, 2016 11:59 AM  

Sowell is like Victor Davis Hanson. An open, active and insightful mind until it comes to foreign policy. Question neoconservatism and he shuts down.

Anonymous 9148 January 22, 2016 12:00 PM  

Reno is disappointing. He is editor of First Things and had been a solid Christian Conservative, but I noticed he has fallen under the spell of Frank the Hippie Pope the last couple of issues, soagbe not so surprising.

Blogger Dalrock January 22, 2016 12:00 PM  

Russell Moore's is the worst. Loves nothing better than to lead conservatives in a choral rendition of "I surrender all."

Moore is one of the pastors who has rushed to judgement of Pastor Saeed Abedini after his wife made bizarre accusations that he was committing domestic violence from inside an Iranian prison (where he has languished for over 3 years). When Moore was interviewed the other day by the Washington Post on the occasion of Abedini's recent release, he presumed Abedini to be guilty of these absurd accusations:

Details of her abuse will eventually have to be addressed within the evangelical community, where she has been a prominent spokesperson for international religious freedom, said Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.

“I dont think today is the day to address that,” he said. “I was stunned and surprised by Naghmeh’s statement. I did not know any of that. It was and is very troubling.”

Anonymous Athor Pel January 22, 2016 12:00 PM  

Pointing to one side of the room He says, "All the sheep over there."
Then while pointing to the other side of the room says, "All the goats over there."

Anonymous 9148 January 22, 2016 12:01 PM  

Fat fingers... "So maybe not that surprising.

Anonymous Crank January 22, 2016 12:02 PM  

Looks like a "Who's Who" of Neocon commentators - minus Krauthammer of course. Hey, guys, we tried it your way. It was a colossal failure.

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 12:02 PM  

From the link I posted:

To simplify Francis' theory: There are a number of Americans who are losers from a process of economic globalization that enriches a transnational global elite. These Middle Americans see jobs disappearing to Asia and increased competition from immigrants. Most of them feel threatened by cultural liberalism, at least the type that sees Middle Americans as loathsome white bigots. But they are also threatened by conservatives who would take away their Medicare, hand their Social Security earnings to fund-managers in Connecticut, and cut off their unemployment too.

Anonymous Clyde January 22, 2016 12:03 PM  

I enjoy your cucksocking.

OpenID Jack Amok January 22, 2016 12:03 PM  

..."stand together and do nothing" campaigns

What a perfect description. "Let's feel good about ourselves by saying we are wonderful people, united in a wonderful thought, and far too noble to take any of the grubby actions those grubby people to either side of us take."




Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 12:08 PM  

25. Josh
Yep. Samuel Francis

28. Sam Lively
VDH is a typical Lincoln cultist and FedGov uber alles.

Anonymous Faceless January 22, 2016 12:08 PM  

@20

Lowry got my subscription returned to him as well.

That solid "conservatism" they talk about us got us the GOP-managed doubling of public debt in under two presidential terms.

There is no consensus in the GOP on values of conserving resources or conserving tax dollars. They are profligate spenders.

There's nothing conservative about policing the world - you're not conserving our blood and treasure.

There's nothing conservative about open borders - you're not conserving our middle class lifestyle.

At least we have a good list of who is the "acceptable opposition" as appointed by the ruling junta so we know which positions are acceptable for Goldstein's men to hold and which are just beyond the pale.

Anonymous No January 22, 2016 12:09 PM  

Heh. Medved.

The train is fine.

OpenID warriorsandadventurers January 22, 2016 12:09 PM  

I'm actually surprised by Sowell too. Why trash the front runner before the fist primary?

But I also don't see why there is so much destruction aim at Cruz. It's obvious he's also not a part of the cuckservative establishment.

Blogger Sam Lively January 22, 2016 12:10 PM  

@30

Not surprising. Along with Dreher, he's fallen in love with the abstraction of martyrdom. Had a piece on the abortion issue awhile back that drove me nuts. Basically wrapped any nascent gains on the issue in a massive wet blanket and danced around shrieking "I don't care if we lose this issue, people are going to remember how noble our position was."

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 12:12 PM  

They aren't wrong about what he is, the question is whether or not a medium-functioning, midwitted dark triad personality is a good or bad quality for a president at this particular time. Jury's out on that.

I will still probably vote for him on grounds of 1) iterated prisoner's dilemma re: DC as a nation and 2) Pavlovian conditioning re: individuals.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 12:13 PM  

NR, W. Buckley, and the real right: John T. Flynn.

National Review and the Triumph of the New Right Chapter 12 of The Betrayal of the American Right
By Murray N. Rothbard
https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/national-review-and-the-triumph-of-the-newright-chapter-12-of-the-betrayal-of-the-american-right/


Happy Birthday, John T. Flynn
by David T. Beito
http://historynewsnetwork.org/blog/17413

Blogger Sean January 22, 2016 12:13 PM  

I'm watching and listening to Trump and it seems he is turning into a cuckservative before our eyes. A long line of republican establishment figures are lining up behind Trump. Trump is talking about his abilities to make deals with Congress. It's got me worried that he will eventually compromise on his border stance which would seem to be the only reason to vote for him.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 12:15 PM  

Disappointing to see Mark Helprin on there. But then, law and order types are always disappointing when you get down to it.

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 12:15 PM  

According to Trump's twitter 3 hours ago:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

The failing @NRO National Review Magazine has just been informed by the Republican National Committee that they cannot participate in debate.

Blogger Quizzer W January 22, 2016 12:16 PM  

Conservatives haven't accepted the fact that they lost the political war. They were stabbed in the back by their political allies, the GOPe. Repeatedly.

If they wish to see their ideas implemented, they need to find a new ally. That ally is Trump, whether they like it or not. Ben Shapiro alluded to this in his column at Breitbart yesterday.

They had some leverage until this stunt. They could have gotten empty promises from him, if nothing else. They apparently take empty promises as currency. What difference does it make who gives them?

Best response I saw on this was "National Review? Thats the one who assured us what a great Speaker Paul Ryan would be, right?"

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 12:18 PM  

@45 Sean,

I'm watching and listening to Trump and it seems he is turning into a cuckservative before our eyes.

DC has handled midwitted dark triad personalities before, and they'll do it again. The question, again, is how this will effect various demographics.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 12:18 PM  

Much pathology is spread by uber-wealthy funding collectivist bullshit. The big charitable foundations like Ford, Carnegie, Gates, etc. are utter horrors.

It's probably wishful thinking, but I'd love to see the donor-class of elitist shitlibs begin to hemorrhage real money trying to keep their increasingly irrelevant, if not outright reviled mouthpieces in operation.

I'd love to see the answer to the question, "how do you create a small fortune?" become "Start with a large fortune and buy a collectivist political rag."

Of course, The Buckley Rag always had black-budget taxpayer $ behind it, as does WaPo (I suspect.)

Blogger Dexter January 22, 2016 12:20 PM  

For months, Republican leaders have worried about how to stop 2016 frontrunner Donald Trump. Now, one of the conservative movement’s most influential publications is taking matters into its own hands.

"Their own hands". Riiiiiight. Like those hacks weren't paid to write that crap. The only "hand" in that issue is the hand of the Establishment up NRO's ass.

OpenID Jack Amok January 22, 2016 12:22 PM  

Sitzpinkling off to the side of history, meekly suggesting "Hey, we're nice guys."

Blogger YIH January 22, 2016 12:23 PM  

Glenn Cuck warns that backing him is tantamount to allowing the conservative movement to have “fallen in behind a huckster.”
Fixed it for them!
That NR would include that clueless clown shows just how far NR has fallen.
But after what they did to Derb that should be a given...

Anonymous Robb January 22, 2016 12:23 PM  

Shouldn't Matt Walsh be included on this list? He's not only anti-Trump, but he repeatedly and openly attacks Trump supporters themselves!

Anonymous Jack Hanson January 22, 2016 12:23 PM  

Is this where we post the "Its afraid!" meme of Nazi Dookie Howser mind reading the Bug from Starship Troopers? Seems apt.

Blogger Dexter January 22, 2016 12:24 PM  

Ace nails it:

Against The Establishment
—Ace

It's a pretty sad day when Joy Reid of MSNBC makes more sense to me than National Review.

Check out her diagnosis (which mostly comes from moderate Republican turned liberalish independent Bruce Bartlett) at 6:45.

It's accurate -- the establishment/elite has been selling lies to everyone outside the donor class for years. They use their power to enact their own priorities into law, while telling the rest of us "it's too hard" or "it will scare the moderates."

And for years we went along with this.

Well, as she notes, the issue of immigration has caused this bargain -- the elites get their actual agenda, everyone else gets lies and empty promises -- to break down, probably forever.

You know, for years, I felt it was my duty to sell these shit sandwiches to readers for the Greater Good of winning elections.

I didn't like doing it, but I thought that, for example, the War on Terror was too important to risk a rupture over other questions.

Although I've come to hate politics and I just despise reading the news now, the one good thing is that I'm liberated from splashing some ketchup on Sandwiches Made of Actual Shit and trying to sell them to people as tasty and healthful.

I feel liberated. I serve no "Greater Good," as I don't know that there's a Greater Good to be served anymore. So I can just say exactly what I think.

And what I think is that the establishment has to be destroyed.

We will not be ignored, we will not be condescended to, we will no longer accept broken promises and lies as our payment for our service to the GOP.

And if it requires destroying the GOP and electing a Democrat to teach the establishment this lesson, to chastise them and to humble them, then we shall do just that, and do so happily.

You will either come to terms, or you will be destroyed.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 22, 2016 12:28 PM  

@12 "Is the second law of Cuckservatives that Cucks also always project? Or is a Cuck just a different type of SJW anyway?"

Cuckservatives are SJW dhimmis. They're required to observe the same rules and rituals, pay the jizya by supporting diversity causes, punish anybody who risks incurring the wrath of their masters, and pay the Blood Tax by sending their children to be recruited as janissaries.

The line between them and SJWs is blurry, and in the end it doesn't really matter. The solution is the same.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 22, 2016 12:30 PM  

@40 "But I also don't see why there is so much destruction aim at Cruz. It's obvious he's also not a part of the cuckservative establishment."

What? Really?
What's more like a Cuckoo than trying to install a non-eligible into the whitehouse? (He was born in Canada, to a Cuban father who'd acquired Canadian citizenship; his mother might have acquired Canadian citizenship as well as she shows up on voter rolls.)

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 12:30 PM  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/22/donald-trump-is-the-favorite-to-be-the-republican-nominee-period/

1. Donald Trump: Trump has had a very good last few weeks. He continues to hone his pitch on the stump and has clearly thrown Cruz off with the eligibility attack. Say what you will about her decidedly unusual speech endorsing Trump, but Sarah Palin remains a potent force (and surrogate) among social conservative and tea party types. Trump has pulled back into a tie with Cruz in Iowa, has extended his lead over the rest of the field in New Hampshire and leads in virtually every state that follows those two. If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire, look out: He'll almost certainly be the Republican standard-bearer.

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 12:34 PM  

This is so very strange to me...

I mean normally National Review loves rich yankee liberals pretending to be conservatives.

Anonymous Robb January 22, 2016 12:34 PM  

@54 Nevermind, he writes for The Blaze, not NRO.

Blogger frigger611 January 22, 2016 12:34 PM  

Trump's rise seems to perfectly rhyme with Reagan's ascent - the establishment opposed Reagan, claimed he spoke too frankly and without measure, they said he was unelectable - then of course he went on to win the presidency in the biggest landslide ever.

Even in office it was impossible to shake off all the cuck advisors. They told him to DEFINITELY NOT directly call out Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall. "Don't anger the Russkies! Play nice!" Reagan called him out anyway, and the rest is history.

That one example should have put that kind of milquetoast advisor out of business forever. But alas, the donor class, the lobbyists, consultants, and advisor class are all descended from worms.

“What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”

― William Lamb Melbourne on The National Review idiocy

Blogger pyrrhus January 22, 2016 12:35 PM  

@40 Cruz's Goldman Sachs wife is the author of a piece advocating the unification of North America, including the labor forces....

Blogger Legion of Logic January 22, 2016 12:35 PM  

If they wish to see their ideas implemented, they need to find a new ally. That ally is Trump, whether they like it or not.

How is a liberal flip-flopper the best ally to get conservative ideas implemented?

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 12:36 PM  

@58 Not to mention Cruz's wife. Cruz is to the "so called" Tea Party Right as Pelosi is to the Socialist Left.

You can tell a lot about people's actual belief by who they marry, and what their spouse does 9-5. Pelosi's just another Latin American style looter-class pol.

Cruz? SSDD.

Blogger LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up January 22, 2016 12:36 PM  

Awesome, 3 cheers for...

Cuckservative: How "Conservatives" Betrayed America Kindle Edition by Vox Day (Author), John Red Eagle (Author), Mike Cernovich (Foreword

MOving on. List: Peggy Noonan to be added soon?

Winter wonderment! Facebook fails, National Rev. fails, SJW's fail, absurdist codes of niceyniceconduct are weirdfails too.



Blogger Bluntobj Winz January 22, 2016 12:43 PM  

@40
" It's obvious he's also not a part of the cuckservative establishment."

He's a shill of the Vampire Squid, Goldman Sachs. They know how to co-opt a movement.

Blogger Tank January 22, 2016 12:43 PM  

It's important to occasionally read these guys to see where the enemy is and what they're doing. Also, how they miss the point completely.

Blogger Thucydides January 22, 2016 12:43 PM  

In one sense the magazine is correct; Trump is an opportunist who has advocated for positions all over the political spectrum. While he "talks the talk" right now, is there any indication that he will "walk the walk" as President?

Perhaps he will institute some sort of program to quell illegal immigration (which, granted would be a great good in of itself), but other than that I suspect we will mostly see a shuffling of deck chairs and a new set of crony's moving up to the trough.

So praise where praise is due; Trump will talk about the things which are of interest and concern to the American public. We should all be wary of if and how he plans to execute any of this should he get elected. The cure may end up being worse than the disease.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 12:43 PM  

@11 WATYF:

Scott Adams characterized this move as, "the linguistic equivalent of throwing your gun at a monster because the clip is empty."

Excellent essay worth reading in full, it's very short, and details the strength of types of arguments, which "definitional" is the weakest ("he's not a conservative!"). And good comments, such as:

Tristan Severs

I'd say it's even worse than that. Their argument isn't just useless definitional quibbling, it's an identity argument in favor of Trump. They, I'm sure, thought they were somehow cleverly mocking Trump's aesthetic with their purple-and-gold announcement, but for all intents they just put out a royal edict, signed by not one but two people whose names end "the Third", condemning Trump. They couldn't have boosted him better with a to-the-hilt endorsement.


No doubt as soon as T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII (AKA Christopher Buckley) sobers up he's endorse it.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 12:44 PM  

@62 Reagan was elected right at the beginning of a rally for which the country was due. The bear market of 1968-1980-ish had run its course.

Presidents in office during bull markets are feted. Those in office (esp. seeking reelection) during busts are reviled. This is why Bill-Hilly was Teflon, and explains why Nixon was reelected in a landslide, then driven from office over a relative tempest in a tea pot (compared to the High Crimes of Hill-Billy.)

Whoever gets elected this time, it seems excruciatingly unlikely that they'll be in office during a period of bullish optimism.

If Mr. Market finally swan-dives during '16-'20, it might actually be better if President Bernie is held to answer for the cataclysm. Such associations tend to be lasting in people's minds. If Wall Street's recent plunges are just largely sideways corrections and stocks are higher in Nov., Sanders might actually ride that wave as the apotheosis of the last 50 years' statist democracy.

Blogger Sam Lively January 22, 2016 12:45 PM  

@40

The enmity towards Cruz shows that this is not a binary civil war.

The political GOP establishment hates Cruz because he didn't wait his turn or pay his dues and instead took advantage of public outrage to pants all his colleagues in public and build a national stage for himself on their embarrassment.

Their opposition to him is not really ideological - it's not like he hasn't proven himself to be flexible on immigration or foreign policy - it's personal.

Trump is leading a populist rebellion. Cruz is attempting an establishment coup.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 22, 2016 12:47 PM  

@Sam Lively

My understanding of the function of the standard left/right wings of the Party is that the right are foreign policy hawks/imperialist (of course they call it Pax Americana) and domestic doves/sometime libertarian, while the left are foreign policy doves and domestic progressive/hawks.

It's not perfect description but it seems fairly reliable

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 12:48 PM  

"Sowell's was particularly stupid - 'Trump is a deal maker. You know who else was? Neville Chamberlain.'"

I'll take that marker. We'll see.

Seems to be the most likely outcome of a Trump presidency. President McAuliffe.

"What's more like a Cuckoo than trying to install a non-eligible into the whitehouse?"

The spearhead of the Glorious Revolution was a Dutchman. Did far more to advance the interests of England than his English predecessor (who was a puppet of France).

Cruz believes in the principles that any civilization requires to merely survive, let alone flourish. Trump believes in himself. Which is an improvement. We'll see if it is enough of one.

Blogger Starbuck January 22, 2016 12:49 PM  

VD, What are your thoughts on Donald Trump?

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 12:49 PM  

While he "talks the talk" right now, is there any indication that he will "walk the walk" as President?

No

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 12:52 PM  

Ted Cruz is a phony.

Cruz hasn't showed up to vote on over 24% of his voting opportunities in the Senate. Including failing to show up for Rand Paul's Audit the Fed vote in which Cruz claimed he supported. Cruz and his wife took out a million dollar loan from Goldman Sachs. They are bought and paid for just like Obama. And from the same source (GS).

Cruz called out Trump at the debate for his New York values and immediately dicktucked at Trump's response (shows Cruz clapping). And Cruz did the same thing with his attack on Sarah Palin. Immediate reversal and apology for doing so. Cruz obviously can't handle the pressure nor can he stand up for what he says.

And it hasn't been that long ago that Cruz's wife was found sitting on the side of a highway with her head in her hands. Police deemed her to be a threat to herself.

We've had enough mental cases and fake loving families in recent years in the White House. No reason to get bullshitted by another phony Politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZP34iKWYAAdGPP.jpg:large

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 12:52 PM  

"No doubt as soon as T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII (AKA Christopher Buckley) sobers up he's endorse it."

Iowahawk is also a Trump skeptic.

Blogger rcocean January 22, 2016 12:53 PM  

Erik Erickson is not only a Cuck - he's a dumb cuck. Couldn't NR have gotten Leon Wolf?

Blogger praetorian January 22, 2016 12:54 PM  

Whoever gets elected this time, it seems excruciatingly unlikely that they'll be in office during a period of bullish optimism.

That's a great point and that's why this election is a no-lose proposition: if Hilary or, please God, Sanders, win, they get to preside over the collapse, w/ only obama to shift blame onto, which would be great. "The negro did it!"

If Trump wins, will, the massive butt hurt across the political class would be worth it regardless if, upon inauguration, he rips off his fake face and turns out to be a cryogenically sustained Franklin Delano Roosevelt tanned, rested and ready to complete his work.

If Cruz wins, the republican party is completely destroyed, as he presides over the collapse and bails out the banks to the shrieks of the liberal press. (The other guys will bail them out too, including Trump. I get it.)

We literally can't lose in the current year, guys.

Blogger Student in Blue January 22, 2016 12:55 PM  

@59. Nate
This is so very strange to me...

I mean normally National Review loves rich yankee liberals pretending to be conservatives.


You can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 12:57 PM  

@71 dc.sunsets:

@62 Reagan was elected right at the beginning of a rally for which the country was due. The bear market of 1968-1980-ish had run its course.

Those of us who were politically aware in the '70s sure don't remember that. Inflation rate hitting 13% or so, prime rate 20+%, Phillips Curve linking low unemployment to the latter smashed, 50% and 75% top marginal income tax rates, the Federal government directing where every gallon of gasoline and Diesel fuel went, as well as the price of natural gas, and strongly discouraging the production of that (new gas power plants outlawed) and domestic oil, Limits to Growth a state religion in short, the Soviet Union running rampant, Iran holding our embassy staff hostage, malaise in a word.

Given how many of those problems were reversed by sane policies, granted, some started by Carter (Fed/Volker), I don't think the country was "due" a rally, just like you don't see us due one after the 2001 or so to current period.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:00 PM  

46. Quizzer W
I restarted visiting NRO about 3 years ago. One of my last posts there had to do with the reelection of Bohener as Speaker. That went well! Ryan ◔_◔ hugh!

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:00 PM  

58. Nate

Ain't that the truth.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 22, 2016 1:01 PM  

I'm sorry, anyone who describes Thomas Sowell as a cuck is insane.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:04 PM  

I do not like Trump. All the GOP pageant competitors a pretty the much the same. The only difference is that Trump rings the right bells with immigration. Trump and Rand have voiced some moderation on foreign monster slayings. Those are the only two exceptions that I can think of.

Blogger YIH January 22, 2016 1:05 PM  

@11 WATYF:

Scott Adams characterized this move as, "the linguistic equivalent of throwing your gun at a monster because the clip is empty."
A classic.

Anonymous VFM 8384 January 22, 2016 1:07 PM  

I knew Erick Erickson was a cuck after reading Redstate for the last year (and he got his head handed to him by Megyn Kelly for defending traditional gender roles). I'm disappointed to see Thomas Sowell on the list; I respected him.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:08 PM  

85. YIH
That was funny.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 1:12 PM  

@83 White Knight Leo #0368:

I'm sorry, anyone who describes Thomas Sowell as a cuck is insane.

In his essay he talked learnedly about many specific issues, but didn't even mention the most important of this race and one Trump is addressing best of all candidates, immigration, which as I recall is the surest issue to reveal cuckservatives. Maybe he agrees with us on that issue, but didn't bring it up because of NR's bias, or it was edited out.

He also showed no understanding of the rhetorical domain in which Obama (his first example, where he proclaims himself to be clueless) and Trump thrive. It was a dialectical piece, of precisely no use to the presidential race.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 1:13 PM  

@80 Thatwouldbetelling,
It's a question of chicken vs egg, and just as unanswerable.

I trust technical analysis. This engenders a peculiar worldview. I think trends run until they don't, but that reversal is assured because trees don't grow to the sky.

Look at the books published in the late 1970's. Doom and gloom across the board. Sentiment was crushingly low, a sign of impending upside reversal. When the mood shifted, Volker acted. Rates came down because the market (and mood animating it) demanded it. Stocks bottomed between 1974 (DJIA) and 1982 (SPX). Off to the races we went.

Fast forward to 1999/2000. All the books were DOW 36,000 (then DOW 100,000). It was a sign of unparalleled optimism...sure sign of a top. Notwithstanding the misleading nominal rallies since then, in real terms markets are gasping barely to the same levels while an ocean of IOU's keeps filling, and that ocean simply represents dilution of dollar value.

The times choose the particular people and the particular policies. When people want to have a credit binge they create central banks to facilitate it. When the bills come due, and they want to keep partying they divorce their monetary unit from any consistent underlying measure (silver in 1964, gold in 1971) to let their imaginations rule policy as the greatest credit bubble in human history inflates.

Or you can believe fundamentals matter and people steer things from the top.

There's no way to prove one vs the other.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 22, 2016 1:16 PM  

OT:

I signed up for a work related meetup thangy group and was wondering if there are any ilkish groups near Austin I could look out for.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 22, 2016 1:17 PM  

@72 "Cruz believes in the principles that any civilization requires to merely survive, let alone flourish."
@75 "Ted Cruz is a phony."

I don't believe that Mr. Cruz does actually believes in what he claims to. (e.g. the TPA, the Coker-amendment, increased H1B visas, his "bear-hug of 'love'" comment, etc.)

Even more telling, to me, is that he's allegedly a "very smart Constitutional lawyer" -- an originalist -- though his own professor admits that the originalist viewpoint on the matter would render him inelegible.

If we are to live in a Constitutional government, then the Constitution must apply, not only when it is convienient, but absolutely when it is inconvienent. There is, after all, a reason why the preamble to the Bill of Rights says:
"in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added"

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 1:20 PM  

@60 frigger611,

But alas, the donor class, the lobbyists, consultants, and advisor class are all descended from worms.

You mean wyrms.

Anonymous johnc January 22, 2016 1:24 PM  

Sort of frustrating to hear people talk about how important it is to elect a true conservative and how Cruz is the most reliable conservative, etc.

They seem oblivious to the fact that it doesn't divide between liberal and conservative anymore, but globalism vs nationalism.

Conservative voters have done their duty for many, many years now and have no results to show for it. Time to step out and do something different.

Anonymous cincinnatus January 22, 2016 1:25 PM  

Unsurprising, coming from William F. Cuckley's rag.

Blogger Nick S January 22, 2016 1:26 PM  

I don't trust the opinion of anyone who believes they have determined both intent and motive at this early stage. I'm all for burning down the establishment's big tent, but I'm not sure lobbing in a nuclear warhead is the wisest option to accomplish that...yet.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 1:26 PM  

@88 dc.sunsets: I'm imagining a counterfactual where Carter got a 2nd term but hadn't changed Fed policy, or, say, George H. W. Bush as president following the same policies, as we saw in his single, unlamented term (well, Carter and his Georgia mafia were Southerners who were too smart to impose new gun control laws).

In such a scenario I don't see a recovery, and we've seen around the world and in this country longer periods of stupid and/or insane policies that resulted in longer periods of malaise, including Hoover-FDR till WWII.

Your points about credit binges were mostly well taken, although my very minimal study of the history of them says central banks are hardly required (I simply don't understand the monomania about the Fed vs. human nature), and I note there are many long term outcomes to them. One of the reasons I study Argentina, especially with the hordes of Hispanics we're importing.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:31 PM  

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Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:32 PM  

Just to let you know, I am stealing your analogy! Too, too apropos!

And who of us never wondered why the hell the characters did such a futile, stupid gesture? It bever, ever made any sense!

Still doesn't!

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 22, 2016 1:33 PM  

@87

That's because that's not what Sowell normally writes about. He writes about the good and bad of specific policy ideas, and Trump really does have more bad ideas than good ones.


It's been a long, hard road for me to be able to accept Trump as potentially necessary despite his many bad ideas, and I've only been able to vote since 2006. Sowell, by contrast, has been at this for decades. Shifting gears when you've been at it that long isn't easy for anyone, much less a man his age.

But given Sowell's previous writings on the need for objective analysis of the actual results of immigration, and his denunciations of people who substitute "racist!" for argument, the idea that he's a cuck remains insane.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:34 PM  

My first thought exactly!

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:35 PM  

Thomas Sowell is a cuck. Otherwise, he would have either quit NR or NR would have quitted him.

Anonymous Wyrd January 22, 2016 1:35 PM  

I'm sorry, anyone who describes Thomas Sowell as a cuck is insane.

One of Sowell's main beliefs is that culture, not genetics, determines potential. He has written a lot about how good schooling makes blacks equal in outcome to whites. That makes him by default a proponent of magic dirt theory. You can't get more cuckservative than that.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:37 PM  

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Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 1:39 PM  

@94
"I simply don't understand the monomania about the Fed vs. human nature"

Because it is government imposed monopoly so control is over all pawns and damage is shared only across all pawns.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:39 PM  

The Woman must be believed.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 22, 2016 1:42 PM  

@100

And his evidence is how different regional cultures affects people of the same genetic lineage.

Blogger Sam Lively January 22, 2016 1:43 PM  

@97

Leo, Sowell's sacred cow is neoconservative foreign policy. That's why Trump has drawn his ire.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:46 PM  

Many people have opined that is exactly what Trump will do because when negotiating you always lead with a demand your opponent will find outrageous and then you start slowly marching your demands back.

Unfortunately, most of his supporters don't see those opening salvos as outrageous, but the soul of reason and restraint.

Which is why I am so leery if Trump.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 22, 2016 1:46 PM  

National Cuckservative Review has been bleeding credibility for over a decade.

Limbaugh had a good point today. The GOP Establishment is attacking BOTH leading contenders for the nomination. The "conservatives" (as if the Manhattan-centric National Review ever was conservative) hate Trump, the Washington Establishment hates Cruz. Because both men are a threat.

If the National Cuckservative Review were serious, they would have endorsed Cruz...and called for the other candidates (we're looking at you, Jeb) to withdraw.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 1:47 PM  

@78 praetorian,

That's a great point and that's why this election is a no-lose proposition: if Hilary or, please God, Sanders, win, they get to preside over the collapse, w/ only obama to shift blame onto, which would be great. "The negro did it!"

I'm sure that will comfort your progeny. Note the comment by Brennan. You badly need a change of frame. Remember, the other half of the verse says to be "wise as serpents".

Blame only matters when there's a reasonable expectation that someone will execute justice on your behalf. Otherwise you might as well be screaming at the ocean.

Blogger Hen January 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/trumps_trump.html

Here's a good assessment of Trump by someone whose opinion is not cuck. I'm always glad to see good judgment in print.

Blogger JCclimber January 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

So glad I switched party registration in 2000 when they ran George Bush.

Was almost tempted to switch back for this election, but, nah, not now.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 22, 2016 1:49 PM  

@106

Same here. Trump's strategy is brilliant if that is in fact what he's doing, and he's been a wrecking ball against PC culture in the process, but a lot of people want what he said to be the foundation of his policy, rather than the upper limit.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 22, 2016 1:51 PM  

It's Salon Clickbait, but it is devastating to the "white privilege" Narrative. Some good comments too.

God of Blood and Rage

I was very surprised to see a radical left rag publish this.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:53 PM  

"Cuckservatives are SJW dhimmis."

A wonderful analogy. And sonsadly accurate.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 22, 2016 1:54 PM  

Docile sheep for Jesus, Unruly PITA goats for ol' scratch.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:58 PM  

I have been saying that Trump is either America's last chance or the beginning of God's judgment and I'm not sure which.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:58 PM  

I have been saying that Trump is either America's last chance or the beginning of God's judgment and I'm not sure which.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:58 PM  

Many people have opined that is exactly what Trump will do because when negotiating you always lead with a demand your opponent will find outrageous and then you start slowly marching your demands back.

Unfortunately, most of his supporters don't see those opening salvos as outrageous, but the soul of reason and restraint.

Which is why I am so leery if Trump.

Blogger Tom K. January 22, 2016 1:59 PM  

My first thought exactly!

Anonymous Wyrd January 22, 2016 1:59 PM  

And his evidence is how different regional cultures affects people of the same genetic lineage.

At best, Sowell only demonstrates the talented-tenth benefits from disciplined education.

Blogger John S January 22, 2016 2:05 PM  

Rush Limbaugh is tearing these cucks a new asshole right now...

Let's see, a bunch of bowtie wearing, fuck your peasant concerns, free trade Uber alles faggots versus Limbaugh and Palin? Good luck cucks...

This is the most entertaining election of my lifetime.

Anonymous rubberducky January 22, 2016 2:06 PM  

@24 Agreed, I was stunned to see Dana Loesch and Thomas Sowell taking up with the cucks. I had thought much better of them. So disappointed.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 22, 2016 2:06 PM  

@100 "One of Sowell's main beliefs is that culture, not genetics, determines potential. He has written a lot about how good schooling makes blacks equal in outcome to whites. That makes him by default a proponent of magic dirt theory. You can't get more cuckservative than that."

No it doesn't -- magic dirt is about some effortless magic; his position that education and effort are necessary for success put his position at a far different place. (Culture does impact effort, but that's a whole big talk in itself.)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 22, 2016 2:08 PM  

It's 1933 in America you evil, evil people. I know it's poor rhetoric but I find it amusing

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 2:08 PM  

OWS,

"Even more telling, to me, is that he's allegedly a "very smart Constitutional lawyer" -- an originalist -- though his own professor admits that the originalist viewpoint on the matter would render him inelegible."

You go carrying pictures of Larry Tribe...

Appeals to integrity don't go very far following statements that steal at least three bases. Not sure who you think you're fooling with that nonsense.

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 2:11 PM  

Napoleon,

"If the National Cuckservative Review were serious, they would have endorsed Cruz...and called for the other candidates (we're looking at you, Jeb) to withdraw."

This is (unfortunately) as serious as they know how to be, but you're correct that that would have been a more productive course of action.

Blogger Alexamenos January 22, 2016 2:13 PM  

National review declares 'Trump is not one of us'.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if that works out for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVejEB5uVk

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 2:13 PM  

TWBT,

"It was a dialectical piece, of precisely no use to the presidential race."

The fact that the neglect of rhetoric is fatal does not imply that dialectic is of no use.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 2:14 PM  

120. John S

Rush Limbaugh is a cuck himself. He might have better survival instincts, though, than the average cuck.

Blogger Ingot9455 January 22, 2016 2:14 PM  

My statement is that last election, we had the chance to elect a business turnaround expert for the country (Romney). We declined.

Now we have the chance to elect a bankruptcy expert (Trump). It's indicative of our position.

Blogger So Meh January 22, 2016 2:14 PM  

Mark Steyn had his pre-rebuttal on-line before their broad-side launched (maybe he was he was given an insider tip by an old National Review friend?). his insight..spot on. very long quote..."This time round, a big chunk of the Republican base has figured it'd like someone who's looking out for them, too. If the present polls hold up through Iowa and New Hampshire, it'd be the reconfiguration of Mr and Mrs Main Street America as just another interest group. So a philosophical commitment to free trade means less to them than the degeneration of mill and factory towns into wastelands of fast-food service jobs and heroin addiction. An abstract respect for religious pluralism means less to them than reducing the number of crazies running around whose last words before opening fire are "Allahu akbar!" A theoretical belief in private-sector health care means less to them than not getting stiffed by crappy five-figure health "insurance" that can be yanked out from under you at any moment under Byzantine rules and regulations that change 30 times a day. And bipartisan myth-making about "a nation of immigrants" means a whole lot less than another decade of Press One For English, flatlined wages, sanctuary cities and remorseless cultural transformation..." as they say, read the whole thing. also, I thought Dana Loesch was more an independent (thinker), but I guess a free NR Ship Cruise is tough to pass up each year. enjoy.
http://www.steynonline.com/7432/the-world-they-made

Blogger YIH January 22, 2016 2:15 PM  

I don't believe that Mr. Cruz does actually believes in what he claims to.
Me neither. Guess who's Cruz's new buddy? Glenn Cuck. Who said: “I don’t care what Sarah Palin says any more. Sarah Palin has become a clown. I’m embarrassed that I was once for Sarah Palin. Honestly, I’m embarrassed.”
And he should be... Because he's Glenn Cuck.

Anonymous Wyrd January 22, 2016 2:21 PM  

No it doesn't -- magic dirt is about some effortless magic; his position that education and effort are necessary for success put his position at a far different place. (Culture does impact effort, but that's a whole big talk in itself.)

Culture does have an impact but it can only mold the quality of clay it's supplied. The establishment conservatism under current criticism only seeks to conserve the progressivism of yesteryear. If the current GOP survives Trump this year, I fully expect it to laud such concepts of white privilege and disparate impact in the not-too-distant future.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 22, 2016 2:25 PM  

@119

He also goes out of his way to show that cultures who emulate the success of other cultures become more successful themselves. He's also written extensively on the negative effects of black separatist culture in America and how it degrades black success rates. The man is as thoroughly pro-Western and anti-SJW as its possible to be. He just believes that cultural differences are just that: cultural, as opposed to genetic. And I happen to agree with him.

The real-world symptoms of the problem is the same, but if the cause is cultural rather than genetic, solutions are possible.

That's rather the opposite of "magic dirt"; he says people actually have to decide to emulate another culture in order to benefit from it, and that they will wallow in poverty and backwardness if they don't.

Blogger Greatheart January 22, 2016 2:25 PM  

@26 "These idiots at NR want unfettered immigration. Make no mistake only whitey can uphold western civilization not the illegals invading from the south nor the muslims nor Africans they bring their communist ideals along with diseases, ignorance and a complete lack of wanting to assimilate. They come here get on food stamps, welfare, free healthcare, crime and then multiply like rabbits. They will bring everything they claim they are escaping."

Wherever you go, there you are (and all the baggage you bring with you).

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 22, 2016 2:26 PM  

Dana, so cougar-y, MILF-y, but I guess we can't trust her.

Et tu, Sowell?

Blogger OneWingedShark January 22, 2016 2:26 PM  

@124 "You go carrying pictures of Larry Tribe..."

I actually was unfamiliar w/ Mr. Tribe at all until this month; all I really know about him is that he was Mr. Cruz's law professor. -- It seems relevant testimony, Given that Mr. Tribe is citing Mr. Cruz's behavior and professed stances in the class.

Appeals to integrity don't go very far following statements that steal at least three bases.

Which bases?

Not sure who you think you're fooling with that nonsense.

I don't intend to fool anyone; but I also don't think Mr. Cruz is honest/genuine.

Anonymous No January 22, 2016 2:27 PM  

Let's make the Review National again.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 2:29 PM  

@130
"One party is supposed to be the party of foreign-policy doves, the other the party of foreign-policy hawks. When the doves are in power, America loses wars, and, when the hawks are in power, America loses wars."
Steyn

Let me fix it.

One party is supposed to be the party of SJW foreign-policy, the other party of foreign-policy prudence. When the SJWs are in power, America loses wars, and, when the prudents are in power, America loses wars."

Blogger praetorian January 22, 2016 2:33 PM  

You badly need a change of frame. Remember, the other half of the verse says to be "wise as serpents".

“The great Gaels of Ireland are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry, and all their songs are sad.”

I acknowledge that my position can be interpreted as defeatism, but I think that's a misinterpretation: the current political system, which is explicitly hostile to my kids, is dying, and no candidate that I see will be able to save it. I can, therefore, find humor in the situation as we prepare for the birth of a political entity that will represent the interests of my children.

I see your point, but my frame is fine.

Blogger praetorian January 22, 2016 2:33 PM  

I wonder how much it would cost Trump to just buy National Review.

Anonymous Wyrd January 22, 2016 2:35 PM  

I wonder how much it would cost Trump to just buy National Review.

Probably would cost him about tree-fiddy.

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 2:35 PM  

Leo,

"He just believes that cultural differences are just that: cultural, as opposed to genetic. And I happen to agree with him.

The real-world symptoms of the problem is the same, but if the cause is cultural rather than genetic, solutions are possible."

It's (obviously) not either/or, it's both/and.

Doesn't mean Sowell's wrong about the cultural piece.

That's akin to saying game is worthless because it can't make deltas into alphas. It can still improve delta outcomes (and cure gammas into deltas). Likewise, better culture won't close the genetic gap, but it would improve black outcomes.

Blogger benning January 22, 2016 2:38 PM  

Don't care. I'm not supporting Trump. I support Cruz!

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 2:40 PM  

OWS,

"I also don't think Mr. Cruz is honest/genuine."

Thanks for sharing. Let the record show that the proudly ignorant and logically fallacious are skeptical about Cruz.

Blogger John S January 22, 2016 2:44 PM  

Someone upthread mentioned Sam Francis; for the 2nd time this week, Limbaugh is talking about his Chronicles Magazine article from 1996 that predicted the rise of something like Trump. Francis was indeed a good man...

Anonymous GreyS January 22, 2016 2:45 PM  

Ha, F-ing Medved. I remember a couple elections ago when he was pimping for John McCain so baldly and badly, berating anyone who would question him about McCain or about illegals and he was bashing Ron Paul nonstop. It was so clear Medved is in the pocket of the establishment machine. It was disgusting.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 2:47 PM  

@139 praetorian,

Well put, I apologize for the mistake.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 22, 2016 2:47 PM  

Is that they didn't fire yet that supports Trump? Here is youtubes UNCUCK THE RIGHT video on NR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukXegkSuXFY

69.If Mr. Market finally swan-dives during '16-'20, it might actually be better if President Bernie is held to answer for the cataclysm

You must really want the world to burn if you want a guy that would force Christian bakers to provide 31 flavors of gay wedding cake but only allow one brand of deodorant to be made. You must want things to get so bad that I will not be the only puff sniping niggers and blue helmets 4 years after a Bernie election.

While he "talks the talk" right now, is there any indication that he will "walk the walk" as President?

All we need him to do is close the border and show how to win against cucks. He has started a huge parade, if he isn't in front of it someone else will jump in.

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 2:50 PM  

Daniel Larison responds:

Some of the things in the anti-Trump editorial make sense as far as they go, but the people producing the editorial aren’t all that credible. Trump is a huckster, but Romney was just as much of a comprehensive fraud in both of his presidential campaigns and that never seemed to bother his admirers at National Review. They were among the first to encourage conservatives to accept Romney despite a record that would normally disqualify a candidate from the start. I suppose the difference is that Romney pretended to care about movement litmus tests while Trump has ignored them, but that suggests that the real problem with Trump is that he hasn’t courted the movement as Romney did. Like Trump, Romney seemed willing to say almost anything if it meant winning an election, and conservatives were extremely foolish to believe that he had become one of them. The pretense that Bush supporters care about reducing the size and power of government would be almost be amusing if none of us could remember the previous decade. NR‘s reliable support for almost all of George W. Bush’s disastrous policies already made clear how foolish movement conservatives can be, so how much more damage could a Trump nomination that they don’t support do to their reputation?

Anonymous The SPY January 22, 2016 2:50 PM  

Here's a fine example of how desperate the establishment has become check out this hit piece from the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/22/did-a-donald-trump-intern-do-this-retweet-of-whitegenocidetm/

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Liberty (d.b.a. automatthew) January 22, 2016 2:50 PM  

@89. patrick kelly

Email me. automatthew at gmail

Blogger rumpole5 January 22, 2016 2:52 PM  

NR's present sorry state puts me in mind of a passage from the final book of the bible, viz: “Realize how far you have fallen. Repent and do the works you did at first. Otherwise I will come to you and remove your lampshade from its place".

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 2:53 PM  

@144 Desiderius

Wanna take a shot explaining what I posted here. There are 3 or 4 examples of Cruz dishonesty alone in the two paragraphs written. Let's hear your explanation for them?


@74

Ted Cruz is a phony.

Cruz hasn't showed up to vote on over 24% of his voting opportunities in the Senate. Including failing to show up for Rand Paul's Audit the Fed vote in which Cruz claimed he supported. Cruz and his wife took out a million dollar loan from Goldman Sachs. They are bought and paid for just like Obama. And from the same source (GS).

Cruz called out Trump at the debate for his New York values and immediately dicktucked at Trump's response (shows Cruz clapping). And Cruz did the same thing with his attack on Sarah Palin. Immediate reversal and apology for doing so. Cruz obviously can't handle the pressure nor can he stand up for what he says.

And it hasn't been that long ago that Cruz's wife was found sitting on the side of a highway with her head in her hands. Police deemed her to be a threat to herself.

We've had enough mental cases and fake loving families in recent years in the White House. No reason to get bullshitted by another phony Politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZP34iKWYAAdGPP.jpg:large

Blogger VD January 22, 2016 3:01 PM  

I was stunned to see Dana Loesch and Thomas Sowell taking up with the cucks. I had thought much better of them.

You shouldn't be. I knew Dana was clueless back when she was calling herself Mamalogues(TM) and I learned that Sowell was a company man when he continued to defend Michelle Malkin after I emailed him proof that both Malkin's case and his defense of it were incorrect.

Anonymous karsten January 22, 2016 3:06 PM  

The man is as thoroughly pro-Western and anti-SJW as its possible to be. He just believes that cultural differences are just that: cultural, as opposed to genetic.

That is the very definition of a cuckservative, and it is an anti-Western and pro-SJW statement, to a question only of subterfuge and degree.

Anonymous Desiderius January 22, 2016 3:08 PM  

"Let's hear your explanation for them?"

No.

Anonymous The OASF January 22, 2016 3:12 PM  

"Helpful" list haha I love it. Yeah, might come in handy one day when we are measuring the ropes.

Sadly, might as well put
Ron Paul on the list with all his "Authoritarian" whinings. Yes, demanding border control is worthy of authortarianism and an executive order, Ron.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 22, 2016 3:13 PM  

I'm sorry, anyone who describes Thomas Sowell as a cuck is insane.

Everyone has a price that tempts them, being 30 shekels or a bag of dicks from planned parenthood.

94 "I simply don't understand the monomania about the Fed vs. human nature"

Get a used book store to order you http://www.amazon.com/Ragnars-Guide-The-Underground-Economy/dp/1581600119 under a fake name before the Fed makes it illegal for Asians and whites to not pay their fair share of Latrina's 25 illegitimate crack babies.

Let's see, a bunch of bowtie wearing, fuck your peasant concerns, free trade Uber alles faggots versus Limbaugh and Palin?

Not all faggots wear bow ties, some of them wear hoodies.

but a lot of people want what he said to be the foundation of his policy, rather than the upper limit

Half way rolled back is still farther right than any contender.

Cruz called out Trump at the debate for his New York values and immediately dicktucked at Trump's response

It was funny to see all the NYC people demonstrate how thin their skin was. Governor Andrew Cuomo — who famously stated that pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment conservatives were not welcome in his state — also pitched a snit: “Not only is what he said anti-New York. It’s anti-American.”

Blogger OneWingedShark January 22, 2016 3:14 PM  

@144 ""I also don't think Mr. Cruz is honest/genuine."

Thanks for sharing. Let the record show that the proudly ignorant and logically fallacious are skeptical about Cruz.
"

I'm not proudly ignorant; but it's stupid to refuse to acknowledge the limits of your knowledge. As for logical fallacies, would you care to point them out?

@153 (re: Ted Cruz is a phony....)

Good points about the fed-audit vote and the money connections.

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 3:15 PM  

Ron Paul on the list with all his "Authoritarian" whinings. Yes, demanding border control is worthy of authortarianism and an executive order, Ron.

That's not why he called Trump an authoritarian.

Anonymous The OASF January 22, 2016 3:17 PM  

Cruz is a total phony... he's a bankster/goldman Sachs flunky along with his wife. This is well documented.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 3:17 PM  

@ BGS I don't want the world to burn, my view is that the path ahead is already written in large, only the details are yet to be filled in.

If the world's to burn we'll see our neighbors choose the arsonist from a catalog. If it's to be "saved" then they'll simply choose from a different catalog.

This is my reading of Etienne de la Boetie's Discourses from 500 years ago. Just my opinion, worth less than $0.02.

The human social world follows in sine wave curve of advancement and consolidation, of cycles within cycles. I have no way in advance to know if the correction on deck is extremely large or existentially large (i.e., the fall of the Roman Empire large.) That Western Civ is well into a "correction" is self-evident.

My role is small, like an ant riding a leaf on a vast river.

Anonymous The OASF January 22, 2016 3:18 PM  

Enlighten me, then.

Anonymous Kevin January 22, 2016 3:19 PM  

I wonder why so many smart people at National Review who have been following the issues of politics for so long think Trump is a huckster?

It cannot be that he is? Can it?

Anonymous The OASF January 22, 2016 3:22 PM  

Smart people????? AhahahHHhah

Blogger Ahazuerus January 22, 2016 3:26 PM  

@100 & @122:

Draw a graph, a bell curve with 50% either side of the number 100 on the x-axis. Then superimpose another curve with 50% either side of the number 85. Then do the same for the number 115.

Now mark out 2 standard deviations for each curve. See how much of the population within that area of the 85 curve overlaps with the 100 curve.

Ponder how much culture (a culture of education, of hard work, of striving for excellence, of self-restraint, of impulse control, of low time preferences) will have the very same impact on the potential middle class of each population.

And if anyone here thinks that a 15 point difference in IQ distributions is more significant than culture in determining societal outcomes (especially "the wealth of nations" or understanding how a toilet works), then do the same comparison for the 100 and 115 curves and go bow the knee before our Jewish overlords.*

Genetics determines what are the inherent limits of each of us (both nations and individuals), but culture (and how much we "take it on" personally) determines the absolute level each of us (both nations and individuals) actually achieves.

Too many make the simplistic error that different IQ distributions over-determine national and individual outcomes and therefore they assume a personal superiority which is often unwarranted.

*My view is that Israel is intellectually rich but economically backward because its peculiar politics has elevated a recklessly combative (i.e. wasteful) elite at the expense of wiser heads. Fundamentally, Israel's economic dependence on her intellectual inferiors in the West is the consequence of a "lacking impulse control" tax levied against her leadership.

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 3:29 PM  

"Cruz is a total phony... he's a bankster/goldman Sachs flunky along with his wife. This is well documented. "

...

Cruz is a total phony. I wouldn't argue that a bit.

Now... I would love to see someone argue that Trump isn't ever bit as much a phony as Cruz is.

I mean 16 months ago Trump was a pro-immigration anti-gun pro-choice liberal.

And now you believe he's the opposite of all those things. Because he told you so.

You believe the words... coming from the mouth of a billionaire from manhattan.

You think he got all those billions by being up front and transparent?

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 3:30 PM  

"I wonder why so many smart people at National Review who have been following the issues of politics for so long think Trump is a huckster? "

These are the same "smart people" who supported McCain and Romney chief.

Blogger tz January 22, 2016 3:31 PM  

I actually read the article (and "Houston, we have a problem - apparently this was too much for the GOP so they ejected them from the CNN debate).

Most give long "I feel your pain" messages before they say Trump is not the solution to having been stabbed in the back for 3 decades.

The replacement of Bonior with the even worse Ryan (even Bonior would have had a better Omnibus) was probably the last straw. The grass roots wants to burn the establishment even if it means self-immolation.

Reading it, most people - real people - are more likely to vote for Trump based on the arguments. Those that already were solid are likely to double down and let all the air out of any neighbors who have Cruz2016 bumper stickers on caucus night or primary day.

Anonymous europeasant January 22, 2016 3:32 PM  

I used to subscribe to "The American Conservative" magazine since itz founding years ago. I stopped my subscription a number of years ago because of articles like this;

"Why Aren’t There More Black Republicans?
Conservatives must embrace the GOP’s once proud legacy on civil rights.
By Musa Al-Gharbi • January 18, 2016

While many black voters are temperamentally conservative, they cannot envision a place for themselves in today’s GOP. But by embracing and building on their legacy of social justice advocacy, Republicans can become competitive among blacks and other minority voters, whose alliance with the Democratic Party was, and likely remains, more de facto than ideological.

Yet ultimately, defending civil rights is about much more than just winning elections—it is a moral calling built into the DNA of the GOP. By neglecting this mandate, white conservatives are not just failing minority constituents, they are betraying their own identity"

read the rest here; http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-arent-there-more-black-republicans/

This is one deluded fool. To think they actually hire people like him.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 3:33 PM  

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Anonymous The SPY January 22, 2016 3:33 PM  

RNC strikes back!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rnc-strips-national-review-debate-hosting-gig-cover/story?id=36438101

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 3:35 PM  

157. The OASF

Ron Paul is for enforcing the border because everyone that crosses it, illegally or not, for long term residency, is another number to be added to the reason that the government puts a gun in head to take my money.

When there are no such thing as welfare or "public" property, then, we might talk. Until then, read and get informed on the subject matter you are trying to illuminate on. Right now, you need to put new batteries.

Blogger tz January 22, 2016 3:35 PM  

Even if busTED Cruz isn't a complete phony, Heidi Cruz worked for the Council on Foreign Relations (I'm not making this up!) and is "on leave" from Goldman Sachs (I didn't know they employed Geisha), or is it Merrill Lynch? Sleeping with the enemy? Hillary (vote for Bill, you get me too) on steroids.

If a candidate's wife's family, employer, etc. were all fighting for or supporters of ISIS, I wouldn't vote for them. Goldman Sachs is probably a worse threat.

Blogger Anonymous Robot January 22, 2016 3:36 PM  

Get a used book store to order you http://www.amazon.com/Ragnars-Guide-The-Underground-Economy/dp/1581600119 under a fake name before the Fed makes it illegal for Asians and whites to not pay their fair share of Latrina's 25 illegitimate crack babies.

Seems Ragnar is pretty dependent on the above ground economy. He does have some interesting books though, like:

Ragnar's Big Book of Homemade Weapons: Building and Keeping Your Arsenal Secure listing for $100 at one site.

Blogger tz January 22, 2016 3:38 PM  

@149 - thanks.
Better a huckster than a cuckster.

Anonymous RedJack January 22, 2016 3:43 PM  

Reno surprises me a bit. While Neuhaus was there, he seemed to keep things in check. Once he left, I saw a huge jump left. Something about living in NY I guess.

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 3:50 PM  

@167

I will take you up on that, Nate.

The difference is Ted Cruz is on our dime. Whatever Trump may have said or done as an individual businessman in the private sector doesn't carry the same weight. As Trump's businesses and what was at stake for him monetarily may have dictated his answers.

Also can you cite your sources from as recent as 16 months ago that supports what you say? The reason I ask for those links is because Trump endorsed both Romney and McCain in the past two elections. And also Trump is a gun carrier. I am mainly interested in the gun and pro choice issues. As regardless of whatever may have been said about immigration by Trump previously. Trump has certainly been the only candidate on board to take this issue by the horns full on to date.

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 3:52 PM  

Now... I would love to see someone argue that Trump isn't ever bit as much a phony as Cruz is.

I mean 16 months ago Trump was a pro-immigration anti-gun pro-choice liberal.

And now you believe he's the opposite of all those things. Because he told you so.

You believe the words... coming from the mouth of a billionaire from manhattan.

You think he got all those billions by being up front and transparent?


Trump is a liberal yankee baby boomer, so he's clearly telling us the truth this time.

Don't you know that he's the lesser of two evils and this is THE MOST IMPORTANTEST ELECTION EVAR?

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 3:54 PM  

As regardless of whatever may have been said about immigration by Trump previously. Trump has certainly been the only candidate on board to take this issue by the horns full on to date.

Except for candidates like Santorum and Jindal.

And Trump has repeatedly said that he only wants to stop illegal immigration. Not legal immigration. Why else do you think his wall will have a big beautiful door?

Blogger James Dixon January 22, 2016 3:56 PM  

The only disappointment is Sowell. I'd hoped for better from him, but then his is an older article being reprinted here. He may have changed his mind by now.

> Is the second law of Cuckservatives that Cucks also always project? Or is a Cuck just a different type of SJW anyway?

I'd argue they're a larval form, not fully developed.

> I worry about things like this; normal people usually repeat what they see on television or read in their magazines as if it was their own original thought.

In that case you have nothing to worry about. National Review's readership is vanishing rapidly. Issues like this will only accelerate the process.

> I mean normally National Review loves rich yankee liberals pretending to be conservatives.

Heh.

> Trump is an opportunist who has advocated for positions all over the political spectrum. While he "talks the talk" right now, is there any indication that he will "walk the walk" as President?

Of course not. But neither does anyone else, and they're not even 'talking the talk".

> So praise where praise is due; Trump will talk about the things which are of interest and concern to the American public. We should all be wary of if and how he plans to execute any of this should he get elected. The cure may end up being worse than the disease.

The disease is terminal. It's hard to get worse than that.

> Doom and gloom across the board. Sentiment was crushingly low, a sign of impending upside reversal.

While those are indicators, they're not enough by themselves. It takes a trigger of some kind to kick things off. And, if you look carefully, you'll see those same signs now.

> I'm all for burning down the establishment's big tent, but I'm not sure lobbing in a nuclear warhead is the wisest option to accomplish that...yet.

I'm probably a bit older than you. I'd argue it's well past time.

> I have been saying that Trump is either America's last chance or the beginning of God's judgment and I'm not sure which.

There's a difference?


Blogger OneWingedShark January 22, 2016 3:57 PM  

@167 "Cruz is a total phony. I wouldn't argue that a bit.

Now... I would love to see someone argue that Trump isn't ever bit as much a phony as Cruz is.
"

Well, there's two things that actually weigh in Trump's favor here:
(1) He talks a lot, it's part of negotiating;
(2) He hasn't pretended to be "one of us" and stabbed us in the back [like so many of the political caste has]... and, ironically, the really is more of one of us than they are. [Which is why "Make American Great Again" echos with us.]

Another thing is that there are some remarkable consistencies in some of his core stances, listen to this video from 25 years ago. (The "make Mexico build the wall" is an echo of what he's saying there.) -- Sure, he's probably much more comfortable with a much larger federal government than I am, but I think he also understands that ~$20 Trillion public debt is unacceptable.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 22, 2016 3:57 PM  

What becomes of the old Republican establishment under President Trump? Are they opportunists who will simply disappear/adapt? Become a fringe group like Communists or white conservative democrats? Their philosophy (big gov, open borders, constant foreign wars) is deemed repellent by all sides so I don't see how they continue to exist in the absence of access to money/power and popular support.

Anonymous Wyrd January 22, 2016 3:59 PM  

Trump is a liberal yankee baby boomer, so he's clearly telling us the truth this time.

Don't you know that he's the lesser of two evils and this is THE MOST IMPORTANTEST ELECTION EVAR?


And you are a broken-record Jason-Mewes-without-teh-funneyz-ha-ha who pathologically can't help flinging poo whenever a pro-Trump post is published. Christ, you are pathetic.

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 4:02 PM  

@179 Josh

"Trump is a liberal yankee"

Don't tell me you're one of those necks down south who hasn't gotten over his great grandpappy getting his ass kicked by the North yet?

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 4:03 PM  

"Also can you cite your sources from as recent as 16 months ago that supports what you say?"

Of course we can... but do you really want to go down that road considering Josh has provided it on this very blog roughly 100 times.. so much so that Vox has called him out and told him to stop?

I mean seriously.. the pandering piece of crap actually told iowa farmers he would raise the ethynol mandate.

He supported Mitch McConnel because Mitch "brought a lot of earmarks for kentucky".

He's a scumbag lying yankee POS.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 22, 2016 4:04 PM  

@179 So what if he is lying? When was the last time we had a candidate who even pretended to believe the right things and hate the right people?

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 4:04 PM  

"Don't tell me you're one of those necks down south who hasn't gotten over his great grandpappy getting his ass kicked by the North yet?"

Moor: Don't tell me you're one of those spaniards who hasn't gotten over his great grandpappy getting his ass kicked by Allah yet?

Spaniard: ***BANG***

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 4:06 PM  

And you are a broken-record Jason-Mewes-without-teh-funneyz-ha-ha who pathologically can't help flinging poo whenever a pro-Trump post is published. Christ, you are pathetic.

On average, how many comments have I made on the last 10 trump threads?

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 4:06 PM  

"So what if he is lying? When was the last time we had a candidate who even pretended to believe the right things and hate the right people?"

/facepalm

So your daughter should put out on the first date with a liar... because most guys don't tell her they love her... but the liar did.

K.

OpenID sigbouncer January 22, 2016 4:06 PM  

@180 Josh

"And Trump has repeatedly said that he only wants to stop illegal immigration. Not legal immigration. Why else do you think his wall will have a big beautiful door?"

So you're saying there is an actual candidate in the race (and by in the race I mean polling above 1%) who is in favor of no immigration at all? Of course there isn't, so it's a non sequitur.

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 4:07 PM  

"And you are a broken-record Jason-Mewes-without-teh-funneyz-ha-ha who pathologically can't help flinging poo whenever a pro-Trump post is published. Christ, you are pathetic."

Actually I think this is the first time either of us have commented on a trump thread in quite a while.

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 4:09 PM  

So you're saying there is an actual candidate in the race (and by in the race I mean polling above 1%) who is in favor of no immigration at all? Of course there isn't, so it's a non sequitur.

And we're back to the lesser of evils.

Anonymous Creatist186 January 22, 2016 4:09 PM  

The NR may be trying to save their ass. But have you read the issue. They are dead on correct about everything.

Blogger Josh January 22, 2016 4:12 PM  

And you are a broken-record Jason-Mewes-without-teh-funneyz-ha-ha who pathologically can't help flinging poo whenever a pro-Trump post is published. Christ, you are pathetic.

My dear boy, look at the first four comments I made on this very thread.

Of those four, how many of them would you classify as "slinging poo?"

Blogger Salt January 22, 2016 4:13 PM  

Cruz is a total phony. I wouldn't argue that a bit.

Now... I would love to see someone argue that Trump isn't ever bit as much a phony as Cruz is.


Politics and his personal opinions aside, Trump has a rather impressive record. Politically, he hasn't had the opportunity to stab We the People in the back. He's smart enough to know that history will judge him one way or the other.

Blogger Nate January 22, 2016 4:13 PM  

it is hilarious how thin skinned the trumpsters are. Throw all kinds of stones themselves... but holy cow don't you dare so much as whisper a criticism of their golden yankee boy.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 22, 2016 4:14 PM  

@188. Nate

Spaniard: ***BANG***

I love you, man.

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