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Sunday, January 10, 2016

No one will ever be this cool



88-year-old Minnesota Vikings head coach Bud Grant took the field.

In a short-sleeved polo.

In -9 degree weather.


This is still only my second favorite Bud Grant story. The best was when a reporter asked him what he thought about how things were different for coaches now, how they get paid a lot more money, and have more endorsement opportunities.

When the reporter asked if Bud thought he would have liked to have had a Bud Grant cologne, Bud looked at him in total disbelief, as if he was trying to decide between kicking the guy off of his porch or shooting him.

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Blogger Ragin' Dave January 10, 2016 5:49 PM  

I'm pretty sure he clanks when he walks.

Anonymous Epimandes January 10, 2016 5:59 PM  

I couldn't care less about handegg or any other sportsball for that matter.

Blogger pyrrhus January 10, 2016 6:01 PM  

Bud Grant was and is a man...

Anonymous Dave January 10, 2016 6:05 PM  

Actually Bud had just been pulled from cryostorage and didn't even notice the ambient temperatures.

Blogger VD January 10, 2016 6:06 PM  

I couldn't care less about handegg or any other sportsball for that matter.

I find it remarkable that you genuinely believe anyone cares what you think.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 6:07 PM  

decades ago the Titans actually had some really good football teams. I remember one year they were absolutely destroying Cleveland in Cleveland in December. It was seriously cold and snowing and stuff and the Titans whole o-line was out there in short sleeves.

They had a rule that you had to play the whole season in whatever they started with.

That day Bruce Matthews was actually telling the Browns D-line what plays were coming before the snap. "Hey. See this gap right here? Eddie's coming right through here. Again."

may as well have been a century ago.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 6:10 PM  

"I couldn't care less about handegg or any other sportsball for that matter."

That's so precious.

Because we all find you so fascinating. Its actually why we come here. To read about what you do and don't like.

Anonymous Epimandes January 10, 2016 6:12 PM  

I find it remarkable that you genuinely believe anyone cares what you think.

My options are to hold my peace and let you develop the false impression that sports postings are unanimously viewed as interesting by your viewership, or be forthright and cause you to consider that there exist some readers that find such postings boring.

Blogger Adam Lawson January 10, 2016 6:14 PM  

"I couldn't care less about handegg or any other sportsball for that matter."

And so original, too. I've never heard the handegg or sportsball jokes before. Do you routinely go into restaurants you don't like to tell them you don't eat there?

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 6:14 PM  

Handegg... I love how super smart this term makes the ignorant little mid-wits feel when they use it.

Of course.. if they knew even a tiny bit of football history... they'd know the game is called football for a very good reason.

Because the game evolved from Rugby... and in its early form a field goal was worth 5 points... while a touchdown was worth merely 4 points.

it was called football because kicking the ball was the primary way a team scored.

Morons.

Anonymous Epimandes January 10, 2016 6:16 PM  

And so original, too. I've never heard the handegg or sportsball jokes before. Do you routinely go into restaurants you don't like to tell them you don't eat there?

I come to Vox Popoli because the author picks up interesting stories/articles and offers insightful analysis on sociology and occasionally philosophy of science.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 6:17 PM  

"I come to Vox Popoli because the author picks up interesting stories/articles and offers insightful analysis on sociology and occasionally philosophy of science."

We don't give a damn why you come to Vox Popoli you blithering moron of a half-wit.

Anonymous Epimandes January 10, 2016 6:21 PM  

We don't give a damn why you come to Vox Popoli you blithering moron of a half-wit.

I wasn't talking to you.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 6:22 PM  

"'I wasn't talking to you."

@9 Hey Adam... do you care why this blithering moron of a half-wit comes to this blog?

Anonymous Dave January 10, 2016 6:24 PM  

there exist some readers that find such postings boring

You could save us all a lot of time and annoyance if you were to give a full rundown on your own blog of what you consider boring postings. This way we'll be done with it once and for all and avoid adding more rubbish to future posts.

Anonymous A Visitor January 10, 2016 6:25 PM  

"Actually Bud had just been pulled from cryostorage and didn't even notice the ambient temperatures."

Like "The One Million Dollar Man"...we can rebuild him stronger, faster, better. We have the technology.

I was out hunting so I missed most of the game. Sorry the Vikings lost Vox. I would preferred to see them over the Seahawks any day of the week!

Blogger David-093 January 10, 2016 6:29 PM  

@Nate

Thanks for explaining the origin, I didn't know that. People calling it handegg is almost as tedious as people who decry the name soccer and say it's the real football, despite soccer being what it was originally known as.

Anonymous Dave January 10, 2016 6:40 PM  

The Eagles are interviewing Tom Coughlin tomorrow. His first job in the NFL was as the Eagles' wide receivers coach in 1984-85.

Rumors are the Eagles have requested an interview with Bud Grant. "What the hell" the Eagles source said, "he's only 19 years older than Coughlin."

Blogger VD January 10, 2016 6:44 PM  

My options are to hold my peace and let you develop the false impression that sports postings are unanimously viewed as interesting by your viewership, or be forthright and cause you to consider that there exist some readers that find such postings boring.

I see. Let me assure you that I don't care what you find interesting, I don't care what you find boring, and that I think only a complete narcissist chimes in on subjects in which he is not interested.

Frankly, your narcissistic blathering would be more, not less, likely to post on "handegg" or whatever you called it. Except, of course, that I don't care what you think. So, I shall continue doing exactly what I have been doing for the last 13 years, which is write about whatever I feel like writing about.

There are tens of thousands of people who read here everyday. Your opinion is no more important than all of theirs. If you are not interested in something, that's absolutely fine. Interest is subjective. But there is no need to inform me or anyone else of that fact. All you do is annoy me and irritate those who are interested.

Anonymous No asterisk here January 10, 2016 6:53 PM  

@12

Ah, the royal we, from one of the most imbecilic buffoons at this blog.

Why haven't you convinced VD to give you another shot at embarrassing yourself at debate so badly that the debate has to be pulled before its conclusion?

OpenID Jack Amok January 10, 2016 6:54 PM  

Anytime someone uses the word "sportsball" I assume they are about as coordinated as a fence post.

Pete Carroll was the Viking's DB coach at the very end of Bud Grant's career. On his local radio interview back before the regular season game with the Vikes, the hosts got him talking a bit about Grant and Jerry Burns. Carroll wouldn't give up too many details, but it sounded like a hell of a coaching staff. No place for wimps.

Anonymous Clammy Rogers January 10, 2016 6:59 PM  

@11 Can you explain why your opinions on football are more relevant to our host than Scalzi's opinions on masculinity?

OpenID Jack Amok January 10, 2016 6:59 PM  

Hey, you fucking social retards, this isn't a post about football. it's a post about a man who accomplished something remarkable in his life, and who at damn near 90 is still tougher than you. Why would any of us care what you think - you aren't even smart enough to know what to complain about.

Blogger S1AL January 10, 2016 7:01 PM  

@22 - Wait, is Epi multiple people?

Anonymous Freestater January 10, 2016 7:06 PM  

I could totally do that at his age, if the game was in Miami, and they were pushing me out on a wheelchair because my knees will be gone by 80,im sure.

Anonymous Epimandes January 10, 2016 7:07 PM  

Anytime someone uses the word "sportsball" I assume they are about as coordinated as a fence post.

You assumed correctly.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 10, 2016 7:12 PM  

"or be forthright and cause you to consider that there exist some readers that find such postings boring"

This post is actually about White Privilege, you see only Asians and whites live to be 90 only to still work hard paying taxes to support Latrina's 36 illegitimate crack babies. This is what people that hold up the sky are like Perhaps it wouldn't be so boring for you if they published how much and which performance enhancing drugs the Negro Felon Legion consumed. After all when you bet on racehorses you know what they took recently.

Blogger Jack Ward January 10, 2016 7:16 PM  

Well: The Vikes fell just short. I feel for the place kicker. But, you know, he scored all their points and only needed one more field goal to ice it. He did his part. If the rest of the team could not manage a touchdown then so be it. He has no reason to be ashamed.
I would have liked them to win.

Anonymous VFM:4833 January 10, 2016 7:36 PM  

I don't care about "handegg" either. But it is the language of the sane man, and eccentrics like myself live at the sufferance of sane men, so I would do well to learn their tongue and watch my own.

Blogger wrf3 January 10, 2016 7:41 PM  

Epimades @8: "cause you to consider that there exist some readers that find such postings boring."

Vox writes for himself. As he isn't charging anything, he doesn't have to please an audience.

More importantly, the best response to such fatuous criticism is to ask, "where were you when the page was blank?"

Blogger Michael Maier January 10, 2016 7:47 PM  

This dude's train is NOT fine.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral January 10, 2016 7:52 PM  

Coach Grant was making a demonstrative point for his team. Hope he didn't get pneumonia.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 8:01 PM  

"Why haven't you convinced VD to give you another shot at embarrassing yourself at debate so badly that the debate has to be pulled before its conclusion?"

I don't speak your crazy moon language.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:05 PM  

Yes... I remember those Titan teams under Jeff Fischer that bedeviled the Steelers during that brief time of the old AFC Central alignment. As the story goes Fischer built those teams specifically to beat the Steelers because he knew that was the only way to get to the Superbowl.

Blogger bearspaw January 10, 2016 8:06 PM  

Cold weather can not possibly bother a man from Superior, Wisconsin. Forget the fact that he coached in Winnipeg ( loving called " Winterpeg" by the locals ) leadind his Blue Bombers to 4 championships.

Blogger YIH January 10, 2016 8:13 PM  

I remember seeing something about Vox being in closer to the cuff of the boot than being the center or toe of the boot.
The closest major city (international airport) would be Venice.
According to Google, 7c/45f - notice no politician can even say ''ok, it's time for Fahrenheit to go'' (-6) degrees Fahrenheit = -21.1111111 degrees Celsius.
It's below freezing and it's f'n cold.

Blogger Ben Cohen January 10, 2016 8:26 PM  

What do you think the kicker is doing tonight?

Blogger rycamor January 10, 2016 8:26 PM  

-9 degrees? And here I was patting myself on the back while reading this, smoking a cigar in my shorts in 40-degree weather.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:37 PM  

Alright let's lighten the mood up here a little...

"What do you call the process of Marvin Lewis updating his resume?"

Anonymous Desiderius January 10, 2016 8:37 PM  

"As the story goes Fischer built those teams specifically to beat the Steelers because he knew that was the only way to get to the Superbowl."

That's what Lewis has done with the Bengals (see Hulk Smash Burfict). Almost there.
At least they can beat up on the Ravens.

Steelers seem to be slipping...

Anonymous Desiderius January 10, 2016 8:40 PM  

"What do you call the process of Marvin Lewis updating his resume?"

Lewis can't be doing too badly. Everyone else keeps hiring all his coaches.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 10, 2016 8:42 PM  

This dude's train is NOT fine.

Maybe Vox should do a post comparing 3DPD to the 2D waifu.

Coach Grant was making a demonstrative point for his team. Hope he didn't get pneumonia.

Sure he did, but I doubt it was something he planned. Straight BAMF.

What do you think the kicker is doing tonight?

Hiding.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:42 PM  

Statistically Pittsburgh's defense is horrible. But it makes big plays at all the critical moments. Who would have thought underachieving first round overall draft pick Javaris Jones would make one of the biggest plays of the game?

But once that bag of tricks is empty it's all over. We'll see if they can keep the cherade going for another three games.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 8:44 PM  

"Yes... I remember those Titan teams under Jeff Fischer that bedeviled the Steelers during that brief time of the old AFC Central alignment."

Bedeviling the Steelers is generally only possible when you a hall-of-famer like Bruce Matthews on the line. Fisher was looking to recreate the 85 bears as much as possible... but that was largely because he believed that was the kind of team that would give the Steelers fits.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:45 PM  

You obviously weren't paying attention. The media was talking about firing him before the game was even played if he lost. They most likely won't fite hum, but that catastrophe last night sure didn't help his cause... and its enjoyable to have a few laughs at his expense.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:46 PM  

fire him*

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 8:50 PM  

Fact is the NFL has never been the same to me since realignment. The ravens and steelers rivalries matter.

Replacing them with the Colts and the Texans and the Jaqs? I feel like my titans got regulated to the short bus.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:50 PM  

"What do you call the process of Marvin Lewis updating his resume?"

"Practice makes Burfict."

Ahhhaha... oh I had to hooligans at the Steelers bar going last night.

Anonymous No asterisk here January 10, 2016 8:52 PM  

@32

That's okay dipshit, you can at least get back in the kitchen and make your wife a sandwich like the sad sack househusband you are.

Anonymous Wyrd January 10, 2016 8:57 PM  

I couldn't care less about handegg or any other sportsball for that matter.

Dude, if you want to cause a splash, dub the game Cuckball and all its fans nigger-lovers. See how easy that was? Put some thought into it next time.

Anonymous The OASF January 10, 2016 8:59 PM  

Oh I know... the greedy ass NFL and their stupid parity model... that's the only explanation I can come up with. Of course every year the stadiums are getting increasingly empty. My friend predicted in about 10 years the backfire will be complete and he might be right.

One that note... It's somewhat sadistically comical that last night's vicious debacle went down in the wake of the concussion movie. One can't help but wonder at the irony when the plans of the elites backfire in their face.

Blogger YIH January 10, 2016 9:01 PM  

@37. rycamor :
According to Google; current FL temp: 58ºF= 14.4444444ºC
I really don't like F to C conversions. It's annoying.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 9:11 PM  

"That's okay dipshit, you can at least get back in the kitchen and make your wife a sandwich like the sad sack househusband you are."

No. No you can't suck my cock. I don't care how good your dad says your are at it. run along now nancy.. I'm sure the guys in the booths at the porn shop are wondering where you are.

OpenID Jack Amok January 10, 2016 9:12 PM  

Wait, is Epi multiple people?

I dunno - I assumed No Asterisk was on his side, but maybe not. Maybe he just has a beef with Nate.

Of course every year the stadiums are getting increasingly empty. My friend predicted in about 10 years the backfire will be complete and he might be right.

I don't know how many years the NFL has, but they definitely are numbered. At least as the high-ticket item they are now. The TV contracts were a last ditch effort to keep people from cutting the cable, but it ain't working. ESPN will get spun off by Disney and go bankrupt within 10 years.

By then, I expect it to be a 15 yard penalty for tackling the ball carrier.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 9:13 PM  

"One that note... It's somewhat sadistically comical that last night's vicious debacle went down in the wake of the concussion movie. One can't help but wonder at the irony when the plans of the elites backfire in their face."

I certainly understand the frustration of cincy's players. The rules are just insane at this point. Plays that were great plays that would've gotten them praise from all are now "bad".

I dunno... seems to me if your WR gets knocked out... there are two people at fault. The QB and the Offensive Coordinator.

Blogger Dave January 10, 2016 9:27 PM  

Everyone for years has talked about Lewis being fired. If they haven't done it by now I don't see it happening after this year. They won the division and were in range of a first or second seed before losing Dalton to a fluke injury.

One thing is certain; the NFL will have new rules addressing assistant coaches going onto the field of play, a la Joey Porter rules.

Blogger YIH January 10, 2016 9:39 PM  

@52 Nate:
Tell me what degrees do they earn.
If I had the Alabama name ''Ha Ha Clinton Dix''?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 10, 2016 9:40 PM  

Dear Epimandes,

Go fuck yourself.

Sincerely,

The Dread Ilk

Blogger Dave January 10, 2016 9:41 PM  

Nate did you take its asterisk? Its looking for its asterisk but it's not here. Where is its asterisk?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 10, 2016 9:46 PM  

Looks like he risked it. Ass.

Anonymous Pathos January 10, 2016 9:47 PM  

Sounds like Porky. Must be lonely.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 10, 2016 9:59 PM  

The rules are just insane at this point.

Do you mean the rules changes made to allow blacks to possibly be quarterbacks? At least until they take a hit or 2.

I'm sure the guys in the booths at the porn shop are wondering where you are.

They know he only has money the first weekend of the month, like many on the dole/welfare.

OT: Maybe Apples Timmy Cook should rethink the boy cot over wedding pizza.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-shares-dip-below-100-for-first-time-in-15-months-2016-01-07

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 10:14 PM  

"If I had the Alabama name ''Ha Ha Clinton Dix''?"

Ha Ha is a nick name. Everyone mispronounced his name calling him sean.. like shawn. So is grandmother started calling him Ha Ha instead.

he doesn't have a degree. He left Bama his junior year. Tell me.. if someone offered you a contract for millions your junior year of college... would you have graduated?

Because if you say you would... then I'm gonna figure you're an idiot.

Anonymous ben January 10, 2016 10:28 PM  

I am officially 1-0 predicting wildcard playoff games between Seattle and Minnesota.

Blogger Billy January 10, 2016 10:35 PM  

His nick name in Alabama was Ha Ha Clintin Suk Dix, according to the Bleacher report.

Blogger ray January 10, 2016 10:37 PM  

"Bud looked at him in total disbelief, as if he was trying to decide between kicking the guy off of his porch or shooting him"


Get off my lawn punk! Yeah can you see Bud slutting himself out to every cheesy insipid commercial? No he limits his appetites and ego, and thus retains his integrity. Oh and p.s. I will let you know if I am cold, or old.

I saw A.P. the other day praising God for his success, so now I've got Petersen in my Reality League.

When the Warriors won the championship Curry talked about how God was responsible. Igoudala did the same beginning his Finals MVP interview. Coincidentally they've had a pretty good start to this season. Know what I mean, Eldrick? :O)



Anonymous Desiderius January 10, 2016 10:40 PM  

Dave,

"the NFL will have new rules addressing assistant coaches going onto the field of play, a la Joey Porter rules."

At least ones with a criminal record of assault against a former member of the opposing team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE

Tomlin gave Porter a game ball last night. No class.

Blogger Nate January 10, 2016 11:35 PM  

Tomlin's a piece of shit. Makes me sick seeing munchak coaching for the Steelers.

Anonymous Cadwallander J January 11, 2016 12:16 AM  

Grant was the original Belichek, without the cheating.

A story goes that he would crank up the heat in the opposing teams locker room, so when they would take the field in the second half, the brutal Minnesota temps would be all the more unsavory. F'ing brilliant.

Hats off to that man. And props to the Vikings for their usual rug-pulling routine on their fans. Would have been a shame to break with tradition.

Anonymous Brostradamus January 11, 2016 12:29 AM  

OT

I see a post from Vox on economics in our near future.

Anonymous average bob January 11, 2016 1:03 AM  

I am still a bengals fan...they will win a superbowl some day

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Anonymous Purple Sheeple Eaters January 11, 2016 1:56 AM  

88-year-old Minnesota Vikings head coach Bud Grant took the field.

In a short-sleeved polo.

In -9 degree weather.


Not surprising when you find out what kind of man he is outside of the Football world.

Bud Grant's office at Winter Park doesn't look like the office of a hall of fame NFL football coach. It's a den full of trophies...of the taxidermy kind. He is a big game hunter of the Great White North. He embraces the cold as he's spent countless hours over many years stalking prey in near-arctic climate.

I am still a bengals fan...they will win a superbowl some day

When the Vikings finally do, than we will know Ragnarok has at long last arrived and the end is nigh.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 11, 2016 2:28 AM  

Epimandes, knock it off.

I don't watch feetsball or african tree hockey myself, but don't go around bothering those who do. Don't like the post, move on.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 11, 2016 3:32 AM  

I don't understand American football, beyond the basics, but I do understand that all spectator sports are social events first and foremost. Naturally the antisocial don't appreciate them.

Then there's the posers who just want you to think they're too hip for anything so gauche as an event involving other people.

I wouldn't pretend to know which is who...

OpenID sigbouncer January 11, 2016 3:35 AM  

When I watched Grant come out to midfield in short sleeves at games opening I couldn't help but get a perma grin. Classic old school move, gotta love that if you're any kind of NFL fan. Seeing this almost made me feel bad about my '76 Raiders beat the Vikes in the Super Bowl...I said almost.

OpenID sigbouncer January 11, 2016 3:42 AM  

@48 No ass

Nate's an alpha. He doesn't engage in your daily routines you squirrel fucker.

OpenID sigbouncer January 11, 2016 3:57 AM  

@46 Nate

"Fact is the NFL has never been the same to me since realignment. The ravens and steelers rivalries matter.

Replacing them with the Colts and the Texans and the Jaqs? I feel like my titans got regulated to the short bus."

Agreed! The Luv Ya Blue Oilers/Tenn Titans had two of the more significant division rivalries in NFL history. With Earl Campbell's Oilers teams taking on the Steel Curtain of the 1970's. And Fisher's Titans with that complete package of a team (O-line, McNair, George, D) and their rivalry with the Ray Lewis lead Ravens D.

The NFL needed to put more thought into the realignment with respects to it's division history and the teams involved.

Anonymous Bukulu January 11, 2016 4:04 AM  

...as if he was trying to decide between kicking the guy off of his porch or shooting him.

Tough, tough decision--so why try? "Both" works pretty well, and the porch stays cleaner.

Anonymous Susan January 11, 2016 4:14 AM  

@74, sigbouncer

That insult works so well on so many levels, it is pure genius. I doff my chapeau.

OpenID sigbouncer January 11, 2016 4:17 AM  

@67 CJ

"Grant was the original Belichek, without the cheating."

No disrespect to Grant, but that would be John Madden. Madden used to have his offensive lineman paint the tape on their hands/arms the same color as the opposing defenses uniform color. So as to avoid holding penalties. Madden also had his team practice now outlawed plays such as the Holy Roller. You know you're a true innovator when the NFL has to change it's rules (Holy Roller) because of you.

OpenID sigbouncer January 11, 2016 4:20 AM  

@77

TY Susan, glad you enjoyed it.

Anonymous Haxo Angmark January 11, 2016 4:47 AM  

why would anyone on the hardRight give a flying f**k about what teams of overpriced Black felons owned by Jewish billionaires are doing with an oddly-shaped ball? Particularly in view of the fact that corporate "pro sportz", like the rest of the kosher "entertainment industry", is expressly designed to poison traditional values and distract Whites from the fact that their nation, civilization, and race are being slow liquidated? And I thought only neo-conz were interested in "talkin' ball". See how wrong I was

Blogger VD January 11, 2016 6:16 AM  

Shut up, Haxo. What other people find entertaining is no business of yours. Whites invented football. Whites play football. Whites enjoy football.

Get over it.

Blogger VD January 11, 2016 6:17 AM  

No disrespect to Grant, but that would be John Madden.

You missed the "without the cheating" part. Madden's Raiders were infamous for their cheap shots and penalties.

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly January 11, 2016 7:49 AM  

@46 At least we get to drive the short bus. Had to let the Texans win the division this year cause the Colts got bored of holding it.

(And the fact that I was terrified someone in Indianapolis had their hand over the phone to call Favre towards the end of the year. And our horrible linebackers. And the grand canyons that open up every snap in our O-line. and...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 11, 2016 8:00 AM  

Serious tardation going on with a couple of posters, you couldn't find a more serious group of people who put sports in the proper perspective.

As for Clinton Dix he is an actual player who uses fundamentals, it has been noted that he wraps up when tackling. Call the commish, football is being played.

Blogger Nate January 11, 2016 9:03 AM  

"
You missed the "without the cheating" part. Madden's Raiders were infamous for their cheap shots and penalties."

awww... were the Raiders mean to you?

Blogger Nate January 11, 2016 9:14 AM  

"As for Clinton Dix he is an actual player who uses fundamentals, it has been noted that he wraps up when tackling. Call the commish, football is being played."

I always get the impression that people have a problem wit Dix don't actually watch him play the game.

I think Ha Ha may have missed a tackle at Alabama. Once.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 11, 2016 9:21 AM  

"You missed the "without the cheating" part. Madden's Raiders were infamous for their cheap shots and penalties."

Point on the bear where the Raiders touched you. You know they had to change the rules on dribbling to let blacks succeed at basketball.

Blogger Daniel January 11, 2016 10:05 AM  

Once they mived to the HHH, Grant always looked a little like he was wondering why they were playing in the Barn.

OpenID Jack Amok January 11, 2016 11:51 AM  

awww... were the Raiders mean to you?

The Raiders were very mean to Vikings fans back in January 77. I think maybe the AFC was a bit rougher than the NFC back then.

OpenID sigbouncer January 11, 2016 1:03 PM  

@ Vox

Cheap shots and penalties really aren't cheating. They are what I would call playing the game on the edge.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Cowboys back then (70's) used to cry about the Steelers cheap shots. The Steelers in turn cried about the Raiders and their cheap shots. Somebody had to be the big boys on the block in that era. It might as well have been the Raiders. If it wasn't them it would have been the Steelers.

In Mean Joe Greene's rookie year he tackled a Bears player on the sideline. Greene got up and saw himself face to face with Dick Butkus. Greene hocked the biggest loogie in Butkus face, stared Butkus down and then went back to the Steelers huddle.

Was that a cheap shot by Greene? Sure, I guess? Should Greene have gotten a penalty? Today he would, sure. Did it detract from the fact that Greene was the best and one of the toughest Defensive tackles in the game? Not at all. Among the players it just enhanced Mean Joe's rep.

Now how about a coke and a smile?

Blogger Azimus January 11, 2016 1:33 PM  

VD: 88-year-old Minnesota Vikings head coach Bud Grant took the field.

In a short-sleeved polo.

In -9 degree weather


That's about as bad-ass as you can get at 88.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 11, 2016 6:15 PM  

Pete Carroll interviewed this morning on local Seattle radio, asked about Bud Grant at the coin toss yesterday:

"What a stud..."

Blogger Adam Lawson January 11, 2016 9:14 PM  

@14 - Nate, not a jot.

Also, perhaps it is just me, but I assume that in a public discussion like this everyone is invited until told otherwise by the host.

Blogger Adam Lawson January 11, 2016 9:23 PM  

@49 But then I can retort that much like horse racing, we are merely appreciating the power of the animals, not so much loving them.

@71 I'm assuming by tree hockey you mean basketball, which is just... the perfect description.

@80 Show us on the doll where the rich Jew or black man touched you.

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