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Friday, January 22, 2016

No SJWs allowed

One senses the hand of Linus Torvalds behind this unexpected action by the Linux Foundation:
Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation

The Linux Foundation is an industry organisation dedicated to "promoting, protecting and standardising Linux and open source software"[1]. The majority of its board is chosen by the member companies - 10 by platinum members (platinum membership costs $500,000 a year), 3 by gold members (gold membership costs $100,000 a year) and 1 by silver members (silver membership costs between $5,000 and $20,000 a year, depending on company size). Up until recently individual members ($99 a year) could also elect two board members, allowing for community perspectives to be represented at the board level.

As of last Friday, this is no longer true. The by-laws were amended to drop the clause that permitted individual members to elect any directors. Section 3.3(a) now says that no affiliate members may be involved in the election of directors, and section 5.3(d) still permits at-large directors but does not require them[2]. The old version of the bylaws are here - the only non-whitespace differences are in sections 3.3(a) and 5.3(d).

These changes all happened shortly after Karen Sandler announced that she planned to stand for the Linux Foundation board during a presentation last September. A short time later, the "Individual membership" program was quietly renamed to the "Individual supporter" program and the promised benefit of being allowed to stand for and participate in board elections was dropped (compare the old page to the new one). Karen is the executive director of the Software Freedom Conservancy, an organisation involved in the vitally important work of GPL enforcement. The Linux Foundation has historically been less than enthusiastic about GPL enforcement, and the SFC is funding a lawsuit against one of the Foundation's members for violating the terms of the GPL. The timing may be coincidental, but it certainly looks like the Linux Foundation was willing to throw out any semblance of community representation just to ensure that there was no risk of someone in favour of GPL enforcement ending up on their board.
The Foundation's action doesn't have anything to do with Karen Sandler being the executive director of the Software Freedom Conservancy, but rather, her having been the executive director of the Gnome Foundation, which she bankrupted in three years by devoting nearly 50 percent of the foundation's budget to a new Women's Outreach Program.

This demonstrates the seriousness of the threat that the most influential  people in tech know that the SJWs pose to it. It is well worth destroying the community aspect of a project to keep them out, if necessary, because if they are allowed in, they will spend all their time and effort in attempting to take it over; even if they are prevented from doing so, far too many resources will be wasted in stopping them, resources that could have been spent on achieving the goals of the project.

Keep them out. As Linus knows, even it requires changing the rules, you have to keep them out.

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58 Comments:

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 5:28 AM  

The Linux Foundation is Linus' current employer, and in this case the employee is much more important than the employer.

There's a great deal of butthurt at Hacker News; view with showdead turned on (probably requires registration) to see the postings too hot for various rabbits' dispositions. Note how even using "SJW" is too impolite for many of them.

Blogger finndistan January 22, 2016 5:50 AM  

If you don't destroy the community aspect, which is a tiny whiny miny minor thing in the whole project,
The community aspect will destroy the whole of the project.

Can be seen as this:
If you don't take care of that tiny spot with cancer in a time when tiny spots are in fashion, the tiny spot will kill you.

Blogger Phillip George January 22, 2016 6:36 AM  

There's a couple of words that SJW's use over and over again and I just stand in dropped jaw amazed disbelief at how long they have been getting away with these shake downs. 1.
"Pariah". Linux runs the risk of being pariahs. ie. they've just saved their lives. 2. Democracy is at risk of "populism". ie. the potential dictators just got outed. ie. Saving your life [corporate in this case] just got fashionable again, or maybe, the lemmings have said no to the cliff. #JeSuisLinux. Viva.
Good post.

OpenID simplytimothy January 22, 2016 6:38 AM  

With one simple gesture, Linus demonstrates the appropriate response to an SJW

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/linus-torvalds-defends-his-right-to-shame-linux-kernel-developers/


Integrity. SJW's kill personal integrity. It is the number one reason I do not do corporate work or deal with HR people. From the link, Linus gives a pretty good description of it.

Because if you want me to "act professional," I can tell you that I'm not interested. I'm sitting in my home office wearing a bathrobe. The same way I'm not going to start wearing ties, I'm *also* not going to buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because THAT is what "acting professionally" results in: people resort to all kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their normal urges in unnatural ways.


An organization composed of individuals who compromise their integrity will not create anything of note. Compare late NASA culture to SpaceX or early NASA culture. Creative change happens at the margin, with free, creative people doing 'non-productive' things for their own benefit (scratching an itch in open-source jargon). SJW conformity kills creativity, kills thought, kills integrity.

OpenID basementhomebrewer January 22, 2016 6:38 AM  

@2 Even if it's a gangrenous leg it's still worth losing the utility of the leg for the one month left of life in order to save the whole body for an unknown number of years.

Blogger Sherwood family January 22, 2016 6:52 AM  

Interesting. I think "community representation" is entirely overrated. The people who have the most skin in the game should have the most say.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 22, 2016 6:56 AM  

Standing back and looking at the situation, just how popular could pink haired flabby over indulged mentally and emotionally damaged humanoid scolds be with the billions of people on Earth who have some grasp of reality?

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 7:03 AM  

@6: You need to be careful there: in this case, the biggest name in Linux, the Red Hat corporation, is well on its way to destroying Linux as a tolerable system by pushing systemd. Without going into the details, suffice it to say that it's akin to what turned Windows, especially NT after the first few releases, into a tangled low quality nightmare, no matter how nice the lowest levels of the system are or were. Not coincidentally, many of us observe, it looks to largely eliminate the differences between the various operating system distributions built on top of the Linux kernel, such as Debian and Ubuntu, making Red Hat's sales job much easier.

Blogger VD January 22, 2016 7:05 AM  

If Gnome is the reason distros HAVE to use systemd, it is obvious they don't need to use systemd, they are merely choosing to use it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 22, 2016 7:06 AM  

Speaking of the humanoid hybrids of SJW-Cuckservatives NRO is doing yeoman work at disqualifying itself.

I picture Glen Beck with multi-colored hair, some face metal (good for electrode placement) and crying while holding a sign dedicated to his god MLK.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 7:17 AM  

@9 VD:

If Gnome is the reason distros HAVE to use systemd, it is obvious they don't need to use systemd, they are merely choosing to use it.

It's much worse than that, and Gnome is much more than the Gnome desktop, it includes the libraries underneath that many other desktops use, that many GUI programs call to support a variety of desktops. Many other important pieces of software, including server stuff, are being forced to conform to systemd, and many of those are not going to the considerable extra effort to maintain general Unix/POSIX independence, so switching to one of the BSDs or something better will get more and more difficult.

And by getting Debian to adopt systemd, the systemd partisans force its many downstream distributions like Ubuntu to adopt it. As of a few months ago, there are no major, well supported desktop distributions that haven't adopted systemd or won't be forced to RSN. The best you can do to avoid is to run Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS Trusty Tahr, the LTS is for Long Term Support, it, but not all its important packages, will be supported until April 2019.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 7:23 AM  

@7 Mr.MantraMan:

Standing back and looking at the situation, just how popular could pink haired flabby over indulged mentally and emotionally damaged humanoid scolds be with the billions of people on Earth who have some grasp of reality?

Their demonstrated ability to end the jobs and careers of their targets by appealing to Amenable Authorities is sufficient to explain a lot of this. Airport's Law works at the lower levels for a lot socially inept techies. Look at the Hacker News discussion I linked to for a bit more background.

You might as well ask how reality denying Marxism managed to kill well over 100 million people in the 20th Century, and blight the lives of well over a billion, continuing to this day.

Anonymous jSinSaTx January 22, 2016 7:26 AM  

@VD Did you ever see or reply to this?

http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2015/09/13/outrageous-outreach/ 

Basically claiming the situation was not as you described nor was she responsible even if it had been. He linked directly to your post. Certainly always a reasonable possibility of wagon circling, but wondered if you had other insight?

Anonymous DarthWheatley #2415 January 22, 2016 7:28 AM  

I love Linus. He's a lot smarter than SJWs give him credit for.

In the comments in the linked article, there's a lot of "I was going to vote for her! Now I can't!" butthurt going on.

Good. Let the butthurt flow freely.

There's also tons of white knights rushing to DISQUALIFY claims that she ran Gnome into the ground. "It wasn't bankrupt. It actually made money. Could someone besides a misogynistic troll comment?"

No quarter shall be given.

Blogger VD January 22, 2016 7:37 AM  

Did you ever see or reply to this?

I saw it. It's bullshit meant to avoid the central issue; I saw no need to bother pointing that out. The outreach program, which Sandler took with her to the Software Freedom Conservancy, was totally unnecessary and it did eat up half their budget. He's just trying to address the narrow issue of accounting malfeasance and claiming it was merely a cash crunch.

That's avoiding the whole point of why the hell they were spending half their budget on a worthless outreach program in the first place. Watch what happens at the Software Freedom Conservancy now; obviously the Linux Foundation knows enough to take serious measures to keep an SJW scam artist like Sandler out.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 22, 2016 7:55 AM  

Community in Open Source looks like the mealy-mouthed stakeholders in corporate America.

Cultural Marxism all the way down.

Anonymous DarthWheatley #2415 January 22, 2016 8:16 AM  

@16 Community in Open Source looks like the mealy-mouthed stakeholders in corporate America.

It's because SJWs are drawn to it; OSS reminds them of Socialism. Except that in OSS, they can't "take" code from someone and give it to someone else. They want to shape things in their twisted image of mock utopia, without actually giving up or contributing anything. They want to control the ship without having put in the work.

Just like Socialism, they want to ride the wave of other people's success. Real coders understand "show me the code" but these clowns think everything should be political... read the comments on the previous PHP discussion. Andrea Faulds actually says:

"Inherently, any discussion concerning interactions between people is
"political". Politics is not the exclusive domain of states, it's a
feature of any and every social group.

And unfortunately, any document which says that you can't discriminate
is political, any document which says harassment is wrong is political,
in fact anything which proscribes any behaviour of any kind is political.

Also, arguing against a code of conduct is, in itself, also political.
If you don't think a code of conduct is necessary, it's a political
statement, just as being in favour of one is."

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 8:43 AM  

@15 VD:

Did you ever see or reply to this?

I saw it. It's bullshit meant to avoid the central issue; I saw no need to bother pointing that out. The outreach program, which Sandler took with her to the Software Freedom Conservancy, was totally unnecessary and it did eat up half their budget. He's just trying to address the narrow issue of accounting malfeasance and claiming it was merely a cash crunch.


It's even worse, in that as a GNOME Foundation board member, as well as is one of the major commentators to the posting, it was their job to avoid all of these messes, from the high level gross misappropriation of the foundation's resources to the low level responsibility to avoid a cash crunch and near bankruptcy, which had them stiffing people actually doing work on GNOME in favor of the more formally contracted outreach program.

Going further, GNOME is a particularly odd domain to be doing "women's outreach", it's systems programming (think the C programming language, in this case only one step up from kernel programming), probably comparable to a game engine. Very few programmers of any gender are capable of and interested in doing work at this level, and given the distributions of talent and interests, particularly few women as compared to men.

To see a current example of this sort of mess, Mozilla's Rust systems programming language is having a hard time attracting sustained interest because they hired one of the 4 worst SJWs in the technical domain to do their documentation, "4 worst" as in these guys have an undisputed ability to end careers. A truly awful person, he's the one who got Moldbug no-platformed at a conference where he was to discuss the system he's developing (which we are assured "encodes neo-reactionary politics in its networking stack"). Openly approves of "antifa" (anti-"fascist") violence in Europe, and in that context wondered what a techie antifa movement would be like. (And, yes, he's a member of the tribe.)

Surprise surprise, he's from the Ruby on Rails community, where he followed the standard entryist path, doing bug report scutwork and then documentation, and eventually a little bit of programming. But that's "web programming", which typically doesn't care about minor details like performance, robustness and security (Twitter in its fail whale first iteration was built on Rails), and is at a much higher level than systems programming. He simply doesn't grok systems programming, and I can tell by the specifics of the complaints about Rust's official documentation that that lack of understanding is a key problem with it. And that alone could well doom Rust.

But rest assured that it has a spiffy Code of Conduct, Mozilla knows where its priorities are.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 22, 2016 8:43 AM  

@13...
In reference to VD, I love how he says "...the comments over there are depressing." It's an unintended consequence more like serendipity; maybe if we get them depressed enough they'll off themselves and save everyone else the trouble.

And OT:
WATCH: ‘Angela Merkel You Have Killed Germany!’ – 16 Year Old Girl’s Video About Her Fear of Migrants

Blogger Ahazuerus January 22, 2016 8:46 AM  

@DarthWheatley

"Everything is political" is the SJW version of the Inter-State Commerce Clause.

OpenID turk187 January 22, 2016 8:52 AM  

someone should give Linus a copy of SJW's Always Lie.

Blogger Spencer Rathbun January 22, 2016 9:02 AM  

@11

Gnome has been an octopus that a lot of software builds on for a while now. If you run an alternative distro and try to install a gui program, it's a crapshoot whether you'll have to install the whole gnome stack or not. I mostly stick to the command line and server programs to avoid this.

Additionally, systemd IS horrible. But before systemd came to gnome, there was upstart. THAT was a horrible piece of crap I'm glad I no longer work with. Debian et al. should switch back to initV until they have a decent solution worked out.

@9

Have you looked at LinuxMint? It's taken the top distro slot away from ubuntu.

Anonymous DarthWheatley #2415 January 22, 2016 9:06 AM  

@Ahazuerus I hate that.

Every time I mention riding my bike to work, and I get the "Oh, that's so green of you! Thank you for thinking about the environment!" I tell them "Screw you, I ride my bike so I can stay in shape and save money. I don't give a shit about the environment, I own 3 cars."

That tends to shut them up. Why does everything have to be political? I got better things to do.

Blogger Giuseppe The Kurgan January 22, 2016 9:08 AM  

Long live Linus

Anonymous Archie Bunker January 22, 2016 9:11 AM  

Recently, our stammtisch host invited two female co-workers to our previously all-male gatherings.

I had my misgivings. These are normally rude, threats of violence, much-alcohol sorts of nights.

"They're one of the guys anyway" he said.

Wrong.

(One is sensitive about the word "retarded"- family member is handicapped. Fair enough. But the word is still legitimate-as it also means "delayed"- "The train is retarded in its travel.")

So, if course, in talking about children, I commented that "all kids are retarded until age 25 or so."

Butthurt ensued, with the second female playing momma scold.

For inyat, and for the sake of principle, I doubled down.

Later, at work, I told the scold I wouldn't be drinking with women anymore.

The same principle applies here.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 9:17 AM  

@22 Spencer Rathbun:

@11

Gnome has been an octopus that a lot of software builds on for a while now. If you run an alternative distro and try to install a gui program, it's a crapshoot whether you'll have to install the whole gnome stack or not.


This is a reflection of the way the Unix and now Linux desktop evolved over the decades. I'm not aware of any good answer for someone who wants to write a GUI program of any complexity.

I mostly stick to the command line and server programs to avoid this.

Which doesn't do much good for those of us who've rejected OS X and Windows for our desktops.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 10:34 AM  

@13, specifically the pathetic defense by Jean-François Fortin Tam AKA Nekohayo AKA Jeff Ecchi (the latter two are clearly handles of an iffy anime fan).

He and yet another board member are avoiding answering the hard, excuse me, "leading" questions about their misfeasance in this Reddit discussion of the Linux Foundation's actions, although you'll have to click on the downvoted subthreads to see such bad-think. One such question is about how the GNOME Foundation's financial engineering with the womans outreach program could strip it of it's IRS non-profit status.

We now see 3 GNOME Foundation board members being awfully defensive about exactly how they allowed their foundation to almost go bankrupt. Of course, if we actually lived under the rule of law in the US they'd be facing criminal and civil liability, and any other organization ought to think really hard about giving them any control, as clearly the Linux Foundation is not supposed to be doing.

By the way, I note that Jeff Ecchi's "nerd badge" advertises his Python experience, which is another language that, while perhaps a bit more hard core than Ruby, is far from the systems programming that's the domain of GNOME. Amusing how they blithely display all these tells.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 10:38 AM  

@23 Darth Wheatley,

Why does everything have to be political? I got better things to do.

Because of economic overspecialization.

In turn, this has its roots in population dynamics (r/k) and psychology (overconfident people tend to run things).

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 22, 2016 10:46 AM  

Essentially, society always regresses to the mean: a caste system ruled by a class of psychopaths.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 10:49 AM  

Another note: there is a great deal of butthurt about the fact that the Linux Foundation is "corporate" and all that ... which, strangely enough, is exactly what it is, a 501(c)(6) trade organization, which according to Wikipedia is "a business league, chambers of commerce like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a real estate boards, a board of trade, or an organization like the Edison Electric Institute and the Security Industry Association", or I note, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the actual "gun manufacturer's lobby" in the US.

As usual, the SJWs want to transform an organization into something it's explicitly not.

OpenID Jack Amok January 22, 2016 10:52 AM  

... systemd. Without going into the details, suffice it to say that it's akin to what turned Windows, especially NT after the first few releases, into a tangled low quality nightmare...

Excellent observation. I find the various init daemons to be the worst part of dealing with a Linux system. And the Windows equivalent is the effing Registry. That is the source of the gradual degradation of performance a Windows machine has over time, and the scatter-brained nature of how it was created makes it incredibly difficult to clean out without risking breaking stuff wholesale.

The two have something else in common besides being major weak points of their operating systems: they're flavors of Setup code, and programmers hate working on Setup. Also, you almost never get credit for working on it in a meritocracy. The tough algorithms, the network protocol, the snazzy UI, those things get you noticed. The guy who does Setup on most projects is the guy who didn't have enough clout to get a better role.

It's a stupid way of doing things, but it's pretty standard. And it leaves that area wide open to SJWs, who love to volunteer for the jobs nobody else wants (and where expectations are minimal). And then they use that entrypoint to metastasize.

Our studio (and now our studio-within-a-studio) has always had the most senior devs doing our Setup work.

If there's any chance Linus is reading this, I'd strongly suggest he find the best dev team he can and task them with fixing this problem in the cleanest way possible.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 22, 2016 10:53 AM  

We need a better class of psychopath

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 11:18 AM  

Meanwhile, more SJW Convergence at GitHub, which continues to be very important for FOSS (even Google got out of the repository hosting "business"), but is cruising feature wise, which is what this complaint is about, and as the discussion notes, is busy hiring "Social Impact" employees (see the list of Twitter accounts) instead of designers and engineers.

Anonymous cremes January 22, 2016 11:37 AM  

The Benevolent Dictator For Life (BDFL) in the Ruby community Yukihiro "Matz" Matsumoto has quite effectively squashed the call for adding a CoC. See here: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004

His comments at #95, #127 (which references #104), #138, #145, #153, and #159.

He's rejecting the SJW-entryism in the nicest way possible.

Anonymous Bz January 22, 2016 12:12 PM  

Going further, GNOME is a particularly odd domain to be doing "women's outreach"

The original purpose of an organization doesn't really matter to them.

Blogger VD January 22, 2016 12:24 PM  


He's rejecting the SJW-entryism in the nicest way possible.


No, he's not. He's giving them entry points and they are pushing HARD on them. A foolish response.

Anonymous DarthWheatley #2415 January 22, 2016 12:40 PM  

No, he's not. He's giving them entry points and they are pushing HARD on them. A foolish response.

Agreed. I'd imagine Matz, being Japanese, is inclined to not offend people, and so would honestly give "Coraline" the benefit of the doubt.

But even after repeatedly stating they don't need a CoC and haven't needed one in 20 years, Matz is still holding the conversation. He needs to just shut it down, and quickly.

Just say "no" and be done with it.

Anonymous cremes January 22, 2016 12:45 PM  

@36 "No, he's not. He's giving them entry points and they are pushing HARD on them. A foolish response."

Perhaps I am wrong about the Japanese culture, but I thought that this was as close to "no" as they get.

If adopting any kind of code is a failure, then even the Code of Merit would be considered an entry point, right?

Blogger Sevron January 22, 2016 12:58 PM  

Yes.

OpenID simplytimothy January 22, 2016 1:16 PM  

@11

Slackware is init.d and old-school.

@26 Enlightenment.org Windowmaker.org StumpWM (lisp!) Blackbox, etc...there are lots of light-weight pure X11 "desktops" out there.



Blogger Cloudswrest January 22, 2016 1:21 PM  

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Blogger Cloudswrest January 22, 2016 1:22 PM  

Actually, that finger was addressed to Nvidia. See here: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2012/06/20/nvidia-responds-torvalds/1

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

@40 simplytimothy:

@11

Slackware is init.d and old-school.


So I've heard, but it's awfully minimal. No browser but FireFox (spit), no virtualization (very useful for development) ... ah, wait a second, I see them on SlackBuilds.org, as well as Java (for the JVM). I'll check it out as Ubuntu 14.04 craps out and various packages I depend on move forward. Thanks!

@26 Enlightenment.org Windowmaker.org StumpWM (lisp!) Blackbox, etc...there are lots of light-weight pure X11 "desktops" out there.

Which aren't relevant unless they also support the GNOME stack against which various GUIs I need to run are written against.

StumpWM: Lisp, yes, but it's Common Lisp, tiling, and no mouse. Maybe someday, but if I'm going to live under those sorts of restrictions I'd prefer it to be on a Lisp Machine or secure microkernel sort of system.

Anonymous Tim Meehan January 22, 2016 2:19 PM  

@1 Hacker News

Hmm, I sub to 2600 and I don't see a lot of this type of SJW entryism.

Oh, Greg Elliot was found not guilty.

As Jim Metokur says, glad I could help.

Blogger tz January 22, 2016 3:00 PM  

It isn't a popularity contest as Linus showed that he is in the single digits.

I don't think it is GPL enforcement per se - given that closed source modules are permitted, I can't think of any violation. The closest was the SCO attack (initially to IBM) which was laughable and bankrupted SCO. Tivo simply forced the cleaned up GPLv3. The author of busybox is a bit more picky, only because embedded is a different world and they almost never publish source until caught.

systemd is a bad solution to the worse /etc/init.d mess.

Blogger SirHamster January 22, 2016 3:01 PM  

Actually, that finger was addressed to Nvidia. See here: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2012/06/20/nvidia-responds-torvalds/1

The "I Can Haz Cheezburger" cat doesn't actually want a cheeseburger, either.

Blogger tz January 22, 2016 3:02 PM  

Even one extra entry point in code is a security hole.

Never, ever let a trojan blue-haired whale through the gates. Or any other unnatural thing. Beware of gifts bearing geeks.

Blogger tz January 22, 2016 3:05 PM  

Hmmm. I wonder if Microsoft and Apple, and maybe even Google are becoming "diverse".

From what I've been able to gather Steve Jobs was worse/better than Linus. Even Bill Gates in protecting the monopoly didn't weaken the position.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 22, 2016 3:10 PM  

@48: "REVEALED: "Social justice warrior B.S." has cost Google a quarter BILLION dollars (so far)"

And caused a black woman hired many years ago to quit after she started getting asked if she was a quota hire.

The Apple CEO is gay and doesn't let us forget about it, Microsoft's CEO is a dot Indian and fulfilling a lot of the stereotypes.

Anonymous ZXCV!@# January 22, 2016 5:42 PM  

Reading that discussion was pretty hilarious.

No one should really care what you are behind the keyboard and engineering types are generally results oriented. They care what you produce not so much who you are, since no one knows what you are behind the keyboard.

Too bad more of them aren't saying that on that thread. You don't need to be inclusive to code, you just code...

Blogger Doom January 22, 2016 6:03 PM  

Fantastic! Nerds they may be, but no longer bend over and grab the ankle sort of nerds. I guess, when they finally realized they couldn't surrender enough, or be nice enough, to survive and just be squishy wigglies, they had no choice. They either had to surrender everything and walk away or become "brutal". Though they really have no idea what brutal means, not yet, they are getting there.

When, between sjw's and the anti-horde, we can get the bow-tie boys to fight, life will begin having a chance. It's not about what they like or want, it's about what is and will or could be. There is no middle ground. Beautiful.

Blogger weka January 22, 2016 6:44 PM  

Manjaro (Gentoo based) has an openrc flavour. You can get openrc working in Arch and Archbang.

Now... I prefer minimal systems. But It tells me not to install gnome or cinnamon. I dislike kde... will test the xfce manjaro xfce build.

Blogger JimR January 22, 2016 11:54 PM  

"If there's any chance Linus is reading this, I'd strongly suggest he find the best dev team he can and task them with fixing this problem in the cleanest way possible."

On the plus side, the last time Linus decided there was nothing out there that fit what he wanted for a particular task, he took a couple weeks and wrote git.

Which I for one am very grateful for (cvs/svn, spit!)

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 23, 2016 3:44 AM  

the Windows equivalent is the effing Registry. That is the source of the gradual degradation of performance a Windows machine has over time, and the scatter-brained nature of how it was created makes it incredibly difficult to clean out without risking breaking stuff wholesale.

(showing my age here) I remember when Microsoft announced the Windows registry as an alternative to every application having its own directories and config files.  My co-worker at the time and I looked at each other and I said, "This is going to be a disaster."  A totally foreseeable and avoidable cock-up.

Anonymous Special Purpose Pseudonym January 23, 2016 4:23 AM  

Semi-on-topic:  not just Penguicon but another same-region SF convention is fully SJ-converged.  However, said convergence appears to have involved significant (if not major) violations of the Uniform Commercial Code and contract law.  Pushback may be able to oust the SJWs.  Anyone interested in helping to fund the legal work?

Anonymous Anonymous January 23, 2016 8:38 AM  

Feminist embezzlement, never trust a sjw.

Anonymous Anonymous January 23, 2016 11:25 AM  

I am having an awful reminder of hostile takeovers by the mention of "Individual members ($99 a year) could also elect two board members". Thank god that's been mitigated. Hopefully others follow suit.

Blogger lorenzstransky January 23, 2016 4:16 PM  

Good for the Linux Foundation. However, this will probably mean that the feminists and SJWs will now double and triple down on their 'plot' to 'get' Linus Torvalds. One really scary thought is that Linus' daughter, Patricia, is an avowed 'intersectional feminist.' Who knows what level of commitment/brainwashing she has. We all know that these 'people' will stoop at nothing in pursuit of their goals. It makes me shudder to think that, in light of information from esr that they want to pin a false rape accusation against him, they may use his daughter to accuse him of molesting her. The reverberations would be catastrophic to both Linux and the Free/Open Source movement as a whole.

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