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Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Not just broken, but nonexistent

Rev. Franklin Graham declares that the USA is "broken":
“Tonight the president is set to give his final State of the Union address,” said Rev. Graham in a Jan. 12 post on Facebook. “I can tell you the state of our union.”

“Our nation is broken -- it's broken morally; it's broken spiritually; it's broken politically; it's broken racially,” he said.

“The state of our union cannot be fixed unless we repent of our sins individually and ask our nation to do the same,” Rev. Graham continued.
While I agree with Rev. Graham that the abandonment and rejection of God is the most significant problem, you cannot put an egg back together when you've not only got a cracked egg, but also bits and pieces of a sausage, a burrito, and won ton soup.

If you add tigers, goldfish, and iguanas to a herd of sheep, you may have something, but whatever it is, it is no longer a herd of sheep.

You cannot make a nation out of many nations. It has been tried, many times. We have a word for such a multinational entity and that word is "empire".

The US empire is breaking down. It is breaking apart. And it cannot be fixed because it cannot become something that it is not.

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169 Comments:

Blogger Jourdan January 13, 2016 12:57 PM  

I agree, absolutely.

The problem is that the vast majority of Americans, even those who would be sympathetic to our cause, don't understand the difference between "country" and "nation" and view them as the same.

Blogger ScottD January 13, 2016 1:00 PM  

I'm sure this isn't an original idea, but a few years ago I began seeing the obsession with zombies as a reflection of what was all around us. We have zombie churches where the pastors don't believe in God, zombie colleges where truth cannot be spoken, zombie newspapers that refuse to print the news, etc. They all appear, on the outside to be normal. But their insides have been eaten away, and they join together to destroy anything genuine that still remains.

Blogger ScottD January 13, 2016 1:02 PM  

(Published before before final connection) The country, as a whole is a zombie nation, with nothing but the outward trappings of what was the United States.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 13, 2016 1:09 PM  

And it cannot be fixed because it cannot become something that it is not.

You can't make a nation out of an empire, just like you can't make a woman out of a man (and never will.)

That won't stop lots of people from trying, especially when they either obtain wealth from useful idiots who try, or by trying they (the useful idiots) receive the dopamine high that comes from their "addiction to a false sense of moral superiority."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 13, 2016 1:09 PM  

And "Death Before Dishonor" means unless our overpriced bass boat blows up. The Iranians did make fearsome Zena warrior princess wear a hair covering

Blogger dc.sunsets January 13, 2016 1:10 PM  

@2
Soon to come: Zombie democracy, where the undead hordes vote to eat the brains directly.

Blogger Josh January 13, 2016 1:12 PM  

It's been broken since 1861

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx January 13, 2016 1:14 PM  

OT. Twitter continues its precipitous crash which began(?) right after un-verifying @Nero. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-13/shares-of-twitter-are-hiting-new-lows
Not say that correlation is causation, but it can be, and besides, it's pleasant to think that it really is in this case.

Hmm, to walk it back OP, how does one get their citizenship unverified?

Blogger Frank Brady January 13, 2016 1:16 PM  

The final collapse, when it comes, will come swiftly. I believe it has already begun.

Blogger dienw January 13, 2016 1:17 PM  

from a known prophet:Thursday, October 22, 2015
Time To Prepare

For those whom the Lord leads to do so, it is time to begin physically preparing for the horrors that are about to come upon this wicked, evil and godless nation. As I have prophesied before, Obama will bow his cowardly knees in surrender to the Russians before he leaves office. Before that happens parts of this country will be devastated by disasters. Where those will be I know not, although I do know that Texas will be a safe place for awhile, as will the Blue Ridge Mountains and parts of Arizona.

If the Lord had not had mercy this would have happened before the end of Obama's first term in office. But God was compassionate and has given His people more time to prepare. The solar storms that were supposed to hit in 2012 actually did happen, but they were a week early and missed this planet. See my previous message "Vindicated" from 7/28/14 for more on this.


Of course, those who believe Babylon's declaration that only a thrice crowned, fish capped, poseur can prophecy will not pay heed.

Nor will the mockers and scorners so prevalent on this blog. Unfortunately, that applies to not a few Christians I have met over the past year at a men's group bible study group; so, don't feel as though I am personally insulting you..

But those who believe that God still speaks to His saints had best pay heed. Franklin Graham is a day late and a dollar short

Blogger YIH January 13, 2016 1:31 PM  

“Our nation is broken -- it's broken morally; it's broken spiritually; it's broken politically; it's broken racially,”
While the linked article does not expand on the above I suspect what he means by 'broken racially' is ''if they're Christians, race doesn't matter'' cuckservatism.
I can't buy that, yes, it's good if, for example Africans are Christian but 'Christian' does not change African, typically it's the other way around (voodoo and santeria are 'Africanized' distortions of Christianity) as well as Santa Muerte that's quite popular in Mexico.
Not to mention ''Christianity'' to Africans is often seen and used as another conduit of 'gibsmedat' from the hated Whites.

Blogger bob k. mando January 13, 2016 1:32 PM  

Franklin resigned from the Repuke-i-can party last month over Ryan's budget deal.

so he's definitely putting his money where his mouth is.


“The state of our union cannot be fixed unless we repent of our sins individually and ask our nation to do the same,” Rev. Graham continued."


as i've been pointing out for years now, the Ninevah option is ALWAYS available ... no matter how much it may piss off Jonah / the Jews.

Blogger VD January 13, 2016 1:35 PM  

I suspect what he means by 'broken racially' is ''if they're Christians, race doesn't matter'' cuckservatism.

Probably. But even if he didn't mean it in the correct demographic sense, it is literally correct.

Anonymous ArmyStu January 13, 2016 1:41 PM  

“The state of our union cannot be fixed unless we repent of our sins individually and ask our nation to do the same,”

Why Hucksyers like this guy are given any time or attention is a mystery. Yes, we get it, you don't like same sex marriage. Fine. Don't marry a dude.

Blogger VFM #0202 January 13, 2016 1:46 PM  

@14
There are four lights.

Blogger VFM #0202 January 13, 2016 1:47 PM  

@14
There are four lights.

Blogger endwatcher January 13, 2016 1:52 PM  

I don't believe Franklin is a huckster. I am not a fan of his dad but Franklin seems to do his job as a preacher.

Same sex marriage is just one of many issues, and it affects everyone regardless of what do as thou wilt so long as it doesn't hurt others soft satanists claim.

Anonymous Athor Pel January 13, 2016 1:59 PM  

"14. Anonymous ArmyStu January 13, 2016 1:41 PM
“The state of our union cannot be fixed unless we repent of our sins individually and ask our nation to do the same,”

Why Hucksyers like this guy are given any time or attention is a mystery. Yes, we get it, you don't like same sex marriage. Fine. Don't marry a dude."


He's literally one of the few people on the planet that care whether you live or die and you spit in his face. Once the door is closed don't expect to be let on the ark.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 13, 2016 2:03 PM  

ArmyStuJanuary 13, 2016 1:41 PM

Yes, we get it, you don't like same sex marriage. Fine. Don't marry a dude.


What is your advice for those of us that don't like pedophiles?

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 13, 2016 2:05 PM  

My post was NOT a reply to endwatcher. Not sure why that happened.

Anonymous ArmyStu January 13, 2016 2:10 PM  

"He's literally one of the few people on the planet that care whether you live or die and you spit in his face."

Huckster Graham doesn't know me and doesn't care about me. He thinks if only we do something about the Homos Fos will bless this nation. He thinks he and others are somehow harmed by Susan and Sally's relationship.

He's a Huxkster.

Anonymous ArmyStu January 13, 2016 2:11 PM  

Winston:

My advice? To have a nice day.

Blogger James Dixon January 13, 2016 2:11 PM  

> Yes, we get it, you don't like same sex marriage. Fine. Don't marry a dude.

Yeah ArmyStu, we get it, you don't like faithful Christians. Fine, move somewhere it's not practiced. I'm sure North Korea has a place for you.

Anonymous Browncoat January 13, 2016 2:13 PM  

Empire. Yes, that very true.

Blogger Sean January 13, 2016 2:15 PM  

The Mandate of Heaven is broken. The Empire, long united, must now divide. There is a difference between America and the United States. One is a civilisation that encompasses the Anglo-American societies of the North American Continent. The other is merely a constitutional arrangement. America can survive without the United States.


Blogger praetorian January 13, 2016 2:16 PM  

ArmyStu, here's the good news: once the US breaks up you can have your fleeting degenerate paradise on one of the coasts, and none of us will give a shit any more than we care that the swedes are cuck'ing themselves out of existence.

The bad news is that many people will die between here and there, probably including you.

You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have... the facts of life.

Anonymous Kim Jong-un January 13, 2016 2:17 PM  

I'm sure North Korea has a place for you.

We no want Armystu. He too much fag.

Blogger Rabbi B January 13, 2016 2:18 PM  

You cannot make a nation out of many nations. It has been tried, many times. We have a word for such a multinational entity and that word is "empire". The US empire is breaking down. It is breaking apart. And it cannot be fixed because it cannot become something that it is not.

Yes, indeed. Iron mixed with clay.

As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay. (Cf. Daniel 2)

Blogger Raggededge January 13, 2016 2:21 PM  

Amen

Blogger Jourdan January 13, 2016 2:22 PM  

This is the reality in modern-day Washington:

While Scold-in-Chief Obama was telling us that making fun of Muslim kids is wrong...the local police were frantically looking for a "a group of juveniles" who were targeting European-Americans for beatings at random in DC Metro stations.

In what sense do my people share nationhood with these juveniles?

Blogger buwaya puti January 13, 2016 2:24 PM  

The iguanas get along just fine with the sheep.
Speaking as an iguana.
And from the beginning of the US it hasn't just been just sheep anyway. Goats, hamsters and porcupines were always there in large numbers.
Lots of handwaving to explain it away doesn't really explain it away.
These beasts all get along more or less.
Just need to be careful with the tigers, wolves and locusts.

Anonymous Dan January 13, 2016 2:24 PM  

Off topic, Social Justice Convergence ruins the University of Missouri:

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/news/local/mu-reports-fewer-students-applying-for-fall/article_3159fc14-b57c-11e5-8dfd-6788d5b4560e.html

A 5% decline in applications, and a 16% decline in deposits, which I think represents actual enrollment intent. This even as they are recruiting harder than ever. And even as the University of Missouri is more famous than it has ever been.

Somehow I doubt that the protesters care. The University president, who actually did care about such things, was sent packing.

Victory!


Blogger praetorian January 13, 2016 2:26 PM  

In what sense do my people share nationhood with these juveniles?

It's clear to me that we need to establish a safe-space for basketball americans, to protect them from the vicious privilege and racism of the dominant culture attempting to use public transport to get to so-called quote work unquote.

We need some way for these folks to hide, apart from the racist, dominant euro-normative society.

Some sort of apart-hide, if you will.

Blogger Raggededge January 13, 2016 2:27 PM  

Amen

Blogger bob k. mando January 13, 2016 2:27 PM  

30. ArmyStu January 13, 2016 2:21 PM
I adore Christians, just not Hucksters.



liar.

you adore those who call themselves Christian but who demonstrate every moment of their lives that they believe NONE of the Bible.

because you serve the same father they do.

Blogger Nick S January 13, 2016 2:28 PM  

Yes, we get it...

No, you don't.

Who is going to lead this break up?

You are.

Blogger Rabbi B January 13, 2016 2:31 PM  

Who is going to lead this break up?

Does gravity require a leader?

Anonymous 636 January 13, 2016 2:32 PM  

He thinks he and others are somehow harmed by Susan and Sally's relationship.

Because ... others are.

Anonymous zen0 January 13, 2016 2:33 PM  




When a Nation has withdrawn its allegiance from God, He rarely fails to chasten it by means of Rulers whose aims are mainly for their own private interest and personal aggrandizement; and by means of a People which does not honour and obey its Rulers as representatives of the divine authority, and as entitled to reverence as such, but whic considers itself as the source of power,and regards its own will as the measure of right, and proceeds to assert that will by physical force.


AChurch History to thecouncil of Nicea

Chr. Wordsorth, 1881

Blogger Alexamenos January 13, 2016 2:37 PM  

You cannot make a nation out of many nations. It has been tried, many times. We have a word for such a multinational entity and that word is "empire".
--------
Nice, concise critique. We're not going to have a multi-cultural nation, we're going to have a messy, messy empire of competing nations, co-mingled and sharing one continent.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 13, 2016 2:40 PM  

ArmyStuJanuary 13, 2016 2:11 PM
Winston:

My advice? To have a nice day.

Back to my question. You propose that when one is abhorred by the concept of gay marriage and its participants, said individual should simply not enter one or become one. What of those that are abhorred by pedophilia and pedophiles?

I'd appreciate an answer.

Blogger Praxis Archon January 13, 2016 2:44 PM  

What's particularly interesting is the process of retconning the past so that the transformation of the United States into something entirely other than it was doesn't jar the public.

Last night's GOP response to the SOTU address contained the following gem from Gov. Haley:

"We must fix our broken immigration system. That means stopping illegal immigration. And it means welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion. Just like we have for centuries."

This is utterly false (or at the very least derived from a narrowly technical understanding of the national origins quotas and other immigration legislatoin) but necessary so that current policies can be given the imprimatur of a false legitimacy derived from a concocted history.

The U.S. seems particularly adept at masking its constitutional deformation as acts of continuity. The New Deal being the perfect example of this. The Supreme Court under threat of being packed signs off on the whole scale evisceration of the existing constitutional order and ipso facto an illegal usurpation becomes totally valid constitutional transformation. That's the one benefit of the U.K.'s total descent into lawlessness. Under the parliamentary system with no written constitution you don't have to pretend to be subsisting under the same constitutional arrangement long after you have ceased to do so.

I expect that if the U.S. becomes a one party state run by the Democratic party they won't be jettisoning terminology like liberty, constitutional government, and freedom. Rather the words will bear the precisely the opposite meaning a la 1984. The GOP's main job appears to be facilitating this retconning process. The future of the GOP is David (yes Sir may I have another) Cameron.

Anonymous ArmyStu January 13, 2016 2:46 PM  

Let's see...

BobK is the arbiter of what is abs is no correct Christianity.

Nick thinks my thoughts will lead a civil breakup.

The Rabbi thinks gravity and politics are one on the same.

736 thinks others are harmed by Susan and Sslly's relationship but is having a hard time articulating exactly how.

And Winston wants to try to equate pedophilia with homosexuality.

You guys are never going to make out of A Ball.

Blogger haus frau January 13, 2016 2:46 PM  

Armystu just loves Christians but hates and mocks everything they believe.

Blogger buwaya January 13, 2016 2:48 PM  

The US was always an empire.
Just did not use the name. It was always "e pluribus" and the many were not terribly compatible on rather fundamental levels. The scalpers and the scalpees, along with the whippers and the whipees had rather fundamental conflicts of interest, just to start.
And we haven't even got to all the white people with excellent reasons to shoot each other. Or cheat, oppress, ignore or otherwise misbehave.
Modern rosy ideas about the past aren't realistic, and an ideology based on this sort of concept isn't either.
Going back to the bestiary, your real problem isn't really the the iguanas, hamsters and porcupines, but the traitorous sheep.

Blogger Rabbi B January 13, 2016 2:48 PM  

"He's a Huxkster."

Then he is safe to just ignore. You have nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth. But perhaps you're right, and so maybe you're expressing concern for the rest of us poor deluded fools living under his spell. Well, then, fair enough, but you must first demonstrate with real evidence your claim of hucksterism as it applies to the statements he made, rather than merely expressing your snarky disdain for his statements.

The fascinating thing is that to a committed liar, the truth will always be abrasive and offensive. It cannot be otherwise, lest people see it for what it is.

Blogger Krul January 13, 2016 2:49 PM  

@43 - "You guys are never going to make out of A Ball."

What's "A Ball"? The googles, they do nothing.

Blogger Rabbi B January 13, 2016 2:50 PM  

Let's see . . . ArmyStu thinks he's constructing real arguments.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 13, 2016 2:52 PM  

Winston wants to try to equate pedophilia with homosexuality.

Do you believe that this hand-waving will make others forget that you still have not answered my question?

What is the proper response to pedopholia and pedophiles?

Blogger Giraffe January 13, 2016 2:52 PM  

Let's see . . . ArmyStu thinks he's constructing real arguments.

ArmyStu is showing that he prefers rhetoric to dialectic.

Blogger Rabbi B January 13, 2016 2:55 PM  

@50 Giraffe

Which is fine, if he can also support the rhetoric with logos and ethos, or at the very least logos. The jury's still out along those lines.

Blogger Sheila4g January 13, 2016 2:56 PM  

Lovely Horace quote over at Occidental Observer:

Caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare currunt.
“They change their sky, not their souls, who cross the sea.”

Anonymous Athor Pel January 13, 2016 2:59 PM  

Army-dick-in-ass-Stu,

If you survive what's coming and come out the other side you will be lucky to find a place that will accept your presence even if you provide a useful skill and willing labor.

Just don't expect to find much forgiveness for trying to recruit much less merely talking to the children of those people that take you in. The first time they catch you they will kill you.

The vast majority of the surviving communities will kill you outright once they find out what you are.

You'll be extremely lucky if all they do is run you out of town.

Going it alone will get you eaten by predators.

If you try to weather the coming storm among your own kind they will also eat you and you know it.

Welcome to the future.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 13, 2016 2:59 PM  

Joh, the USA was founded on tax evasion and treason as much as the promise of Liberty.

It was an enormous long con by the most talented grifters in history. Its no wonder its falling apart.

Anonymous Jerry January 13, 2016 3:01 PM  

IF you support Donald Trump you are a Nazi

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article54370275.html

Blogger YIH January 13, 2016 3:02 PM  

@34 pretorian:
We need some way for these folks to hide, apart from the racist, dominant euro-normative society.
I know where those 'teens' can hide ;)

Anonymous fish January 13, 2016 3:05 PM  

33. Dan January 13, 2016 2:24 PM

Off topic, Social Justice Convergence ruins the University of Missouri:




Speaking of Social Justice Convergence......and just when you thought the "profession" of law couldn't be further diminished.


http://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2016/01/13/commentary-uofl-law-school-no-longer-neutral/78655014/

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 13, 2016 3:08 PM  

zombie colleges where truth cannot be spoken, zombie newspapers that refuse to print the news
& Yes, we get it, you don't like same sex marriage.

The dead voting in Chicongo is no where near as bad as vampire exes would be, if long existed gay alimony. Just think Armystu is someone's ex boyfriend that they might be paying for the rest of their lives.

What is your advice for those of us that don't like pedophiles?...I'd appreciate an answer.

Kick them out of your house and take a hammer to your hard drive.

He thinks he and others are somehow harmed by Susan and Sally's relationship.

The place that they praised to all their friends for the good service only to demand a refund for their custom rings when they found out they opposed gay divorce/alimony was hurt.
http://www.gaypatriot.net/2015/05/22/there-is-no-appeasing-a-fascist-mob/ Guess which comment is mine

The Rabbi thinks gravity and politics are one on the same.

Taharush is gravity for moslems.

"The phenomenon is so frequent that the Muslims have a word for it: el-Taharush el-Gensi, sexual harassment in groups"

Anonymous Hartwick January 13, 2016 3:12 PM  

47. Krul.

I think he means 'class a' baseball, as in the minor leagues.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 13, 2016 3:15 PM  

I expect that if the U.S. becomes a one party state run by the Democratic party

If?

On another note, stop feeding the troll. Doing so adds too much time to slog through the comments. BTW, Troll is anyone with an intolerance to intolerance, or anyone who thinks civil society is simply a subset of political society.

Blogger Krul January 13, 2016 3:15 PM  

Thanks, Hartwick. I don't follow sports, so it's no surprise I didn't get that reference.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 13, 2016 3:16 PM  

What's "A Ball"? The googles, they do nothing.

An 8 ball of cocaine off of you know what at Epstein island.

Which is fine, if he can also support the rhetoric with logos and ethos, or at the very least logos

We probably should explain what that means before he posts a picture of legos.

Blogger bob k. mando January 13, 2016 3:17 PM  

43. ArmyStu January 13, 2016 2:46 PM
BobK is the arbiter of what is abs is no correct Christianity.



heh.

Sodom and Gomorrah would like a word with you.

you notice how in Stuvision, Stu always gets to define everything? while everyone who disagrees with Stu, *they* are the apostates?

yeah, funny how that works.

didn't fall from the tree, didja Stu?

Blogger bob k. mando January 13, 2016 3:21 PM  

also, note that Stu still hasn't managed to construct a single argument.

he's still just making bald assertions ... and then pretending that he's 'won'.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 13, 2016 3:23 PM  

You've got Winston trying to equate apples and oranges.
You've got ArmyStu refusing to answer direct questions.

ArmyStu, what is the proper response to pedopholia and pedophiles?

Blogger BassmanCO January 13, 2016 3:23 PM  

Speaking of useless words, ArmyStu, WinstonWebb has asked you a question twice now. Blog rules: answer or leave. I personally think you're too much of a coward, but who knows.

And Stu, the train is fine.

Blogger weka January 13, 2016 3:23 PM  

Stu, stop trolling. If you are in the army, go to a bar and listen to what teh SSGT says in his cups. Do not ignore him.

Then go to another bar and listen to the farmer, the plumber: go to an African Methodist Church and listen to the faithful elders, a Southern Baptist gathering and do the same, and hold your nose and listen to the Mormons.

How many of them trust Washington? How many of them fear for their daughters and sons? How many believe SWPL?

Graham is doing his job. His job. He is calling out the emperor of the Imperial republic. Be glad he can do so: in Canada and Australia this would be hate speech, and he would be arrested.

Blogger VD January 13, 2016 3:24 PM  

note that Stu still hasn't managed to construct a single argument. he's still just making bald assertions ... and then pretending that he's 'won'.

Exactly. Go and posture somewhere else, ArmyStu, you're spam. Actually, spam is more entertaining, being less predictable.

Blogger Nick S January 13, 2016 3:24 PM  

Nick thinks my thoughts will lead a civil breakup.

I think to whomever you were referring, with the object pronoun in "we get it", will lead the civil break-up. I presume you consider yourself a part of that collective.

Blogger weka January 13, 2016 3:28 PM  

@66. One needs asylum for such. Since we have closed all our hospitals. we either imprison them indefinitely (we have a part of our criminal code that allows preventive detention). And I counsel such to live a mile away from anyone, and only come into town with a minder. Because they are a risk to others, and others are a risk to them.

And yes, I Have had to deal with such. Medications don't help: they need to live in a way that means they are not able to predate. And if they do, they should be arrested and incarcerated: we have to put them "in prot(ection)" because they are generally killed if in the general population.

Blogger BassmanCO January 13, 2016 3:28 PM  

ArmyStu, you're a liar. And considering how our host feels about that, I suspect I won't have to hear your bullshit for much longer. Ta ta.

Blogger John Williams January 13, 2016 3:29 PM  

Armystu is a simple thinker.

Blogger weka January 13, 2016 3:29 PM  

Above should link to @65: my fault. What to do with pedophilia. Yes, have had to work with such. Also had to work with homosexual rapists who thought that middle aged men like me were wonderful.

You don't choose who walks in and needs help in my job.

Blogger wahsatchmo January 13, 2016 3:34 PM  

We were taught in grade school that the US was a melting pot of cultures. It isn't. It's a gumbo with rat droppings mixed in, made by incompetent chefs luring more rats into the kitchen with cheese provided by clueless patrons.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 13, 2016 3:34 PM  

Thank you for the response, weka. While "take them out to a field and shoot them in the back of the head" is my preferred solution, I appreciate you taking the time to post an alternative idea.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 13, 2016 3:34 PM  

Out of many, one...might have worked, briefly, until the Empire subsumed all of society and became the single most important entity over which to exert control, for with control came fabulous wealth.

What part of Uncle Leviathan is not simply some sort of extortion racket?
The military-industrial-complex?
The medical-industrial-complex?
The banking-industrial-complex?
The higher ed-industrial-complex?
The foreign aid-industrial-complex?
The Ex-Im bank-industrial-complex?

Has any of the foregoing much to do with the actual purposes for which those industry firms ostensibly exist?

One big mafia. Lots of "families" jockeying to control the drugs, the wharfs, the hookers, the numbers, the casinos or whatever other vice is served by the Washington DC mob.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 13, 2016 3:36 PM  

You have another person claiming sam sex couples are bad, but can't quite say why

Please look at #63 for the link to gay patriot.

Please describe exactly what this "coming storm" is, what will it look like, how will it be precipitated, and who will support it

I know this one worked on at least one gay guy. Look at the massive chimpout videos from 10-12-2013 when the food stamp system went down for 8 hours in 16 states. Understand that a rifle can take out a major electrical power transformer covering a big chunk of a major metropolitan area, possibly right before the beginning of the month when Uncle Sam hands out goodies to dependents. Then read this http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/one-hundred-heads.html & you can under stand why we fled die verse city for Whitopia + planted fruit trees.

If you can handle that check out https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bracken-dear-mr-security-agent/
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

If you don't believe that some gays don't identify as victims you can check out http://pink-pistols.org/ and even http://jpfo.org/ will take gays money.

Anonymous Hartwick January 13, 2016 3:36 PM  

Thing is, Stu, it's not even a difficult question to answer.

Throwing actual arguments into a hostile environment might help refine your thinking. Snark just makes you look silly.

Detrollification attempt over...

Blogger Dave January 13, 2016 3:37 PM  

@Jerry "IF you support Donald Trump you are a Nazi"

As an infamous poster on this blog recently wrote: "I did Nazi that coming" or words to that effect.

Blogger CM January 13, 2016 3:38 PM  

Pointing out liberals are imperialists. I'm sure they'd be pleased with the label.

Pointing out they think our country is better than everyone else's in their insistence to shuttle everyone here. It is the liberal version of the "white savior".

The American Savior of the World.

Blogger VD January 13, 2016 3:40 PM  

Winston wants to try to equate pedophilia with homosexuality.

They are not the same, but when one group is 14 times more likely to be arrested for committing it than the other, one can reasonably say that group is considerably more inclined towards pedophilia than the average, and that any member of the group is more likely to be a pedophile than the average individual.

OpenID warriorsandadventurers January 13, 2016 3:41 PM  

Graham is absolutely right. Using biblical understanding of God's historical actions, aligned with the current state of morality and spirituality in the US, he is clearly convinced that it's game-over for the US. I agree.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 13, 2016 3:46 PM  

Why would we want to rescue America? It's committed ten Holocausts on its infant children without anyone even blinking.

"God bless America" <- Horseshit. If God cared about America it would be miles deep in brimstone.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 13, 2016 3:50 PM  

Weka's point is well-taken, along with WinstonWebb's:

People who engage in predation must be permanently separated from potential prey (temptation) or else exterminated. There is no middle ground promising enough with which to bother.

What does this say about the modern predilection for preying on white males?

Blogger Jourdan January 13, 2016 3:55 PM  

@83 - Come now, you don't really believe that.

Anonymous Joseph January 13, 2016 3:59 PM  

With God, all things are possible.

Let's start with the repentance, and see where it goes from there. For sure, that is our only hope.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 13, 2016 4:03 PM  

@85 Jourdan,

Of course I do. It confuses and confounds me that I'm the only one. If America were absolutely pure in every other way (no rampant pedophilia, for instance), the ongoing holocaust*10 of the unborn would be reason enough for the entire nation to be utterly wiped from the earth.

I've been hoping for years that Putin does the job. I watch the sky in anticipation sometimes, but my prayers have so far been unanswered.

Blogger RobertT January 13, 2016 4:07 PM  

SOTU was a fancy dress ball for the power elite to come together and pat themselves on the back in front of their admiring subjects. They behaved and talked among themselves as though nothing has changed, that the sky isn't falling, that they can say anything they want and we'll all believe it. That's the hope they all desperately cling to. But deep down they all know nothing will ever be the same. I didn't watch. I didn't have to. I already knew it would be be most like the last Cotillion in the deep South before the Civil War broke out. The end of an era. Next year by time, many of them will be gone. There will never be another night like last night. People who watched were taking names and making lists. Those who didn't will make their lists form press reports. By next year many will have fallen in battle, and more will have fled. Those few survivors will be more sober and less jubilant, and they will all mourn the passing of Johnson's great society.

Anonymous No January 13, 2016 4:07 PM  

Right. A nice day raping children. I would tell you to go to Hell ArmyStu, but you are already there.

With lackeys like you, your Master is wise to watch his back.

Blogger Jourdan January 13, 2016 4:08 PM  

Hmmm..well, I don't think so, but let's talk about this, Aeoli Pera. That you strongly oppose abortion is clear, and I get that, but as far as I can tell no one really equates it with actual murder, even if very, very reprehensible and a sin.

Let me see if I can explain why.

Let's say there is a pre-school down the street, with, say, 50 toddlers there. People hear gunshots and they see a man in the pre-school playground walking around with a gun shooting child after child. That is mass murder of children, on that I'm sure we're agreed.

Now, in that situation, how are people likely to act? They are very likely to intervene and stop the killer by any means necessary as soon as possible, including using immediate lethal force.

You see what I'm saying here?

Blogger RobertT January 13, 2016 4:10 PM  

Trump, Cruz & Carson getting 63% of the vote according to Reuters.

Blogger Neanderserk January 13, 2016 4:11 PM  

Dumpsters are melting pots too.

Blogger Rabbi B January 13, 2016 4:12 PM  

@87 Aeoli Pera

I am with you and I certainly can appreciate the sentiment. I have looke dat this nation many times and thought that if we continue any longer down this path, G-d will need to to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.

But, then I remember that G-d is merciful and that His long-suffering means salvation. Though He has certainly set an end to all things when He will finally judge this world and all the nations thereof, I must confess that I am personally grateful that he did not so before my blind eyes were opened to the truth just over 25 years ago when I placed my faith and trust in the One Who, while we were yet still sinners, died for the un-Godly, scoffers, and mockers like myself.

Remember that He is coming soon, and that all times are 'soon'.

Blogger Student in Blue January 13, 2016 4:13 PM  

@Aeoli Pera
Of course I do. It confuses and confounds me that I'm the only one. If America were absolutely pure in every other way (no rampant pedophilia, for instance), the ongoing holocaust*10 of the unborn would be reason enough for the entire nation to be utterly wiped from the earth.

Sin doesn't work like karma though, Aeoli Pera. In the vast majority of time, the sinful world will reward those who are loudly and proudly sinful.

Judgement is not something that comes immediately after someone does a wrong, but for everyone and after all second chances to repent are exhausted.

Blogger bob k. mando January 13, 2016 4:20 PM  

85. Jourdan January 13, 2016 3:55 PM
@83 - Come now, you don't really believe that.



Ninevah believed, repented and was spared.

Belshazzar did not believe and was destroyed.

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Blogger Frank Brady January 13, 2016 4:27 PM  

@90. Jourdan

Abortion is murder. That far too many people don't understand Biology 101 changes nothing.

Blogger Sam Lively January 13, 2016 4:29 PM  

I'd be willing to sell the California coast from Frisco on down to Carlos Slim, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, Mrs. Jobs, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg and George Soros in exchange for construction of a border wall with a multi-trillion dollar endowment for maintenance and defence paid for by royalties from Silicon Valley/Hollywood/port commerce. They'd be on their own for water.

Wall St. and DC would still be major barriers to putting the country back together but minus the two towers of secular cultural dominance I think they could be conquered.

Blogger Frank Brady January 13, 2016 4:29 PM  

@90. Jourdan

Abortion is murder. That far too many people don't understand Biology 101 changes nothing.

Blogger Frank Brady January 13, 2016 4:29 PM  

90. Jourdan Abortion is murder. That far too many people don't understand Biology 101 changes nothing.

Blogger SciVo January 13, 2016 4:31 PM  

Empires run on ruthlessness. If the Anglo-American nation were sufficiently ruthless, then it could (and used to) make an empire out of all the American nations. But we no longer have the will, which I think will just lead to more tears in the long run, since self-destructive self-restraint is unsustainable.

Blogger Sam Lively January 13, 2016 4:31 PM  

Also the billionaire oligarchy I described would have to pay a security fee with the various Cali Coastal US military bases still under US control.

Anonymous KoranBurningFaggot January 13, 2016 4:36 PM  

Winston wants to try to equate pedophilia with homosexuality...They are not the same, but when one group is 14 times more likely to be arrested for committing it

Ann Coulter pointed out that 90% of child sex criminals in NC ,which counts Hispanics as separate from whites, happen to be Hispanic. But the only people I have ever seen publicly advocating the age of consent being lowered are GLBT. Gaypatriot has 3 trolls that actively support pedos named Rusty, Mike, and James Edwards.

I suffered negative social consequences when people thought I narced out a 30+yo who had underage parties at his house every weekend + whose roomate was on probation for sexual assaulting a minor in a McDonalds, even though I denied narcing them out and have a decent poker face. Once I had a Hispanic woman come up to me in a gay bar saying she was looking for someone to date her son, I don't know if she was pimping him out or if I looked better reading a paper on the deck than the guys snorting coke off the bar counter, but it turned out her son was as young as the girls Congressman Menendez got busted with, so I told her I couldn't date him because I would lose my license if anyone knew about it.

It's a good thing I have lower standards than Diogenes, because HIV-, drug free, and non criminal has been hard enough.

the ongoing holocaust*10 of the unborn Is that with 6 million or the revised down numbers?

Blogger FP January 13, 2016 4:37 PM  

@42

It really is a hilarious speech when reading through it. Haley goes after Trump and the base and offers more moderate flowery language that means nothing.

Even Malkin gets it:

"Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin 9m9 minutes ago
Everything wrong with GOP #SOTU response in 4 words: Nikki Haley tells Americans tired of being ignored to “turn down the volume.”"

Anonymous Gordian January 13, 2016 4:43 PM  

With regard to the "racially broken" bit, the point to remember is that he's one of the highest profile opponents of Russell Moore among Southern evangelicals, most recently on the issue of Syrian rape-ugees and Islam as satanic. I'd cut him some slack so long as he's taking on SJW idolators like Moore and is orthodox on substantive issues like Islam.

Blogger SciVo January 13, 2016 4:47 PM  

@ Spartacus xxxxx:

I did some research, and TWTR's decline began precipitously on April 28, 2015, on a negative earnings report.

Blogger Timmy3 January 13, 2016 4:51 PM  

Then the United States is going to be an empire because a state cannot leave the union and the Democrats/progressives will more strongly push for central government. Everyone will have to conform unless you're Muslim.

Anonymous VFM #8671 January 13, 2016 4:53 PM  

The only practical solution at this point is partition into successor states with homogeneous populations. If not done peacefully, it will be done via war sooner or later.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 13, 2016 4:57 PM  

@7. Josh
It's been broken since 1789


76. dc.sunsets
Eisenhower had military-industrial-Congressional in his draft speech but removed "Congressional" because of politics.

Anonymous p-dawg January 13, 2016 4:59 PM  

@Jourdan: I believe that abortion is murder. To say that "no one" does is factually incorrect. And you also forget those who murder abortion doctors. Did you leave them out intentionally, just to try and make your point?

Anonymous Quartermain January 13, 2016 5:10 PM  

"Same sex marriage is just one of many issues, and it affects everyone regardless of what do as thou wilt so long as it doesn't hurt others soft satanists claim."

Lots of chaos results from that kind of thinking which increases as time passes.

Blogger GoodShipG January 13, 2016 5:15 PM  

"God bless America" <- Horseshit. If God cared about America it would be miles deep in brimstone.

Wait for it.

Blogger HalibetLector January 13, 2016 5:19 PM  

it turned out her son was as young as the girls Congressman Menendez got busted with

Interesting factoid I learned the other day: pedophelia and incest are part of hispanic culture. They don't see it as a big deal and don't understand why we do.

Melting pot my ass.

Anonymous 636 January 13, 2016 6:11 PM  

736 thinks others are harmed by Susan and Sally's relationship but is having a hard time articulating exactly how.

I hold that truth to be self-evident, which it surely is.

But since ArmyStu apparently lives a Google-free existence, here's a link or two to ponder.

Blogger Jourdan January 13, 2016 6:24 PM  

@111 - I don't believe I said "no one" believes abortion is murder. My point is that I hear this from people and they don't act like one would expect one would if they thought it was murder, and this confuses me about it.

Blogger Neanderserk January 13, 2016 6:48 PM  

Melting pot? Crack bowl.

Drop of wine, drop of sewage.

Blogger Azimus January 13, 2016 6:48 PM  

VD: You cannot make a nation out of many nations.

Was the Confederacy a nation or many nations?

Anonymous Desiderius January 13, 2016 6:49 PM  

"You cannot make a nation out of many nations. It has been tried, many times. We have a word for such a multinational entity and that word is 'empire'."

Our erstwhile "leaders" are enamored by a vision that was vouchsafed in Christ ("in Christ there is no Jew or Greek..."), but in their avarice and fecklessness they have tried to bring about Heaven on Earth without Him.

We get to pay the wages for their sin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whVPzXDDu2Y

Anonymous Desiderius January 13, 2016 6:50 PM  

"Was the Confederacy a nation or many nations?"

<1

Anonymous Desiderius January 13, 2016 6:52 PM  

Jourdan,

"The problem is that the vast majority of Americans, even those who would be sympathetic to our cause, don't understand the difference between 'country' and 'nation' and view them as the same."

The pertinent difference here is between nation and empire.

The empire, as befits the spergs running it, is fine as empires go.

It is the nation that is broken, as empires do.

Blogger Azimus January 13, 2016 7:03 PM  

Desiderius I take that to mean the Confederacy was 1 nation?

I have no punchline or gotchya to pull out I was trying to find a modern example of a nation forged out of many: Texan & Virginian, White and Black. It was quick and for the purpose of war, and it certainly didn't live long, but it might be an example?

Anonymous Gordian January 13, 2016 7:03 PM  

@118 Two nations. See Fischer's Albion's Seed.

Anonymous Godfrey January 13, 2016 7:28 PM  

@21

Agreed. If some goof wants to take it up the ass that's his business. As long I don't have to pay for his AIDs medication or to have his ass stitched up I literally don't care.

Blogger SciVo January 13, 2016 7:51 PM  

Jourdan @116: My point is that I hear this from people and they don't act like one would expect one would if they thought it was murder, and this confuses me about it.

Oh, stop being so disingenuous. Do you believe that killing a slave is murder? Would you have assaulted a slave-killer in Rome, 2000 years ago? What about Atlanta, 200 years ago?

Anonymous Cyclone Bob January 13, 2016 8:03 PM  

KBF: "Please look at #63 for the link to gay patriot."

You cant honestly think anyone here follows those type of links, can you?

Blogger haus frau January 13, 2016 8:04 PM  

@114 Interesting factoid I learned the other day: pedophelia and incest are part of hispanic culture. They don't see it as a big deal and don't understand why we do.

This should be common knowledge but then that'd just be raciss. At a former job in a hospital lab years ago I would often get to see the notes on the pregnancy screening tests. Underage hispanic girls were common and the notes often included a line saying "father is first cousin". ONe of the women I worked with was Mexican. She told me she often got propositioned by her Mexican cousins. She was raised in the US and so thought it was gross.

OpenID basementhomebrewer January 13, 2016 8:13 PM  

@ Jourdan The difference in your scenario is really visibility and possible effectiveness of the by standards actions. In your scenario someone see's the mass murder before their eyes and realizes they have a decent chance to put a conclusive stop to it.

Abortion is performed behind closed doors and the procedure is rarely shown anywhere to the general public.

If I attacked an abortionist or an abortion clinic a series of strategic failures would occur.

The system would jam me up.

The pro-abortion people would play the victim card.

Our cause would be set back on the moral level allowing even more murder to occur.

Blogger Neanderserk January 13, 2016 8:25 PM  

@116 There is no responsibility to prevent strange women from murdering their children.

There is a responsibility to take back your country from Moloch.

There's a Lot to be said for living in Sodom, but the aftertaste can be salty.

Militia or dust.

Anonymous Desiderius January 13, 2016 8:53 PM  

"Desiderius I take that to mean the Confederacy was 1 nation?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less-than_sign

Blogger SirHamster January 13, 2016 8:54 PM  

My point is that I hear this from people and they don't act like one would expect one would if they thought it was murder, and this confuses me about it.

How many Germans did nothing about the concentration camps in WWII?

Calling it murder, and risking one's neck to do something about it are different things.

It's guilt on pro-Life Americans to varying degrees, sure. We will share in the inevitable judgement.

Blogger CM January 13, 2016 8:59 PM  

Our erstwhile "leaders" are enamored by a vision that was vouchsafed in Christ ("in Christ there is no Jew or Greek..."), but in their avarice and fecklessness they have tried to bring about Heaven on Earth without Him.

Probably wrong place for this, but question: I have spent little time on Revelation and end time theology and am unclear what denominations hold to what, but one view is Christ has established his kingdom on earth in the hearts of his people, that Satan has no control on this earth since the resurrection, and this view seems to fuel the multiculti you criticize here.

I don't follow that theology but I think it might be what my denomination holds to. Do you think this theological view is fueling this?

RE: Hispanics and underage girls:

The youngest mothers list heavily favors hispanics. Do they have a high early maturation rate?

Blogger weka January 13, 2016 9:07 PM  

The church is not the nation. If a church wants to support fellow-believers being sheltered from persecution, then I would praise them. If a church wants to bring in the persecutors, then they are fools and they should be stopped in the national interest.
@132
My reading of revelations is that there will be a great falling away and the world will be apostate, and at the verge of collapse, when Christ comes. That Satan is prowling the earth in rage, because his time is limited.

I would see multiculti as part of the Satanic rage.

Blogger haus frau January 13, 2016 9:11 PM  

@132 The youngest mothers list heavily favors hispanics. Do they have a high early maturation rate?

I've read they hit puberty a little earlier than white girls but the more important point is that someone has to be fooling around with these young girls to make them mothers at 12 or 13 to begin with. Things might be worse than when I was in junior high in the 90's but at that time it was unusual for white girls to be having sex at that age.

Anonymous Epimandes January 13, 2016 9:29 PM  

Vox believes in Christ in the same way the evil spirit in Mark 1:24 believed that Jesus was the holy one of Israel.

Anonymous 636 January 13, 2016 9:46 PM  

@135.

Ah ... yeah. Not sure you're qualified to pass judgment.

Anonymous 636 January 13, 2016 9:48 PM  

Christ has established his kingdom on earth in the hearts of his people, that Satan has no control on this earth since the resurrection.

Sure, it's one view. But we have to ask ourselves whether there is anything in the last 2,000 years of history that bears it out, or whether we might be better off looking at other options.

I favour the latter.

Anonymous Secret Guy January 13, 2016 10:04 PM  

@132

The Kingdom is in abeyance till the second advent, so Satan would still be prince of this world till then, and would not let go right away. Some think the process has already started, which is why the current time since wwI can be considered the time of Tribulation

Anonymous 636 January 13, 2016 10:07 PM  

@138

Really? We're in the Tribulation? Does anyone read the actual description in scripture, or do they just make this stuff up?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 13, 2016 10:30 PM  

@72 John Williams
Armystu is a simple thinker.
--

More like a simple projector.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 13, 2016 10:49 PM  

@11 "While the linked article does not expand on the above I suspect what he means by 'broken racially' is ''if they're Christians, race doesn't matter'' cuckservatism.
I can't buy that, yes, it's good if, for example Africans are Christian but 'Christian' does not change African, typically it's the other way around (voodoo and santeria are 'Africanized' distortions of Christianity) as well as Santa Muerte that's quite popular in Mexico.
Not to mention ''Christianity'' to Africans is often seen and used as another conduit of 'gibsmedat' from the hated Whites.
"

I disagree -- Christianity, real Christianity, changes people. Period. At the last day, when Jesus separates the goats from the sheep, he doesn't separate Somalis from Canadians, the metric he uses is simple and described in Matt 25:31-46, a section titled The Judgment of the Nations

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Blogger OneWingedShark January 13, 2016 10:53 PM  

@86 "With God, all things are possible.

Let's start with the repentance, and see where it goes from there. For sure, that is our only hope.
"

Heartily agreed.
Repentance and prayer. James 5 clearly says "The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective."

Blogger OneWingedShark January 13, 2016 11:01 PM  

@93 "But, then I remember that G-d is merciful and that His long-suffering means salvation."

Very much so, Rabbi -- and praise Him and thank Him for it!

A thought struck me watching a few creationism/evolution debates on youtube -- it's surprising how often that Johna comes up, and that book essentially ends with Jonah accusing God of being "a gracious God and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love, and ready to relent from punishing"... I think that, perhaps, the reason that Jonah comes up so often is because Jonah is the only sign that Jesus said would be given, referring to the Resurrection. (Just some thoughts.)

Blogger Azimus January 13, 2016 11:02 PM  

130.Desiderius January 13, 2016 8:53 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less-than_sign


Hmm, I had given you the benefit of the doubt that it was a typo. Turns out the nonsense was intentional. Funny.

I don't think that thread of thought can go anywhere productive so I will leave it alone. But if you care to elaborate on your two character point I would be glad to read your thoughts.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man January 13, 2016 11:09 PM  

“The problem is that the vast majority of Americans, even those who would be sympathetic to our cause, don't understand the difference between "country" and "nation" and view them as the same.”

Actually, many citizens of he United States comprehend nation and country as being fundamentally different. Nation, as in those naturalized or natural-born people residing in America, the country.


“It's been broken since 1861...”

Typical Southron argument.


“The final collapse, when it comes, will come swiftly. I believe it has already begun.”

Only if working class whites come to the forefront and tear it down, Brevik style. Care to step to the head of the line?

Blogger CM January 13, 2016 11:19 PM  

I've read they hit puberty a little earlier than white girls but the more important point is that someone has to be fooling around with these young girls to make them mothers at 12 or 13 to begin with.

It's not just 12/13. The youngest was a hispanic around 4 years old. Most were 8-10. There were a couple hispanics around 6 as well.

It is seriously disturbing. I am just surprised by the concentration of paedos in some demographics.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 13, 2016 11:20 PM  

@145 "“It's been broken since 1861...”

Typical Southron argument.
"

Not entirely without merit -- the leadership of the Confederacy was never charged with Treason; why? A particularly compelling line of reasoning is that the Federal argument was that the Southern States had no right to secede, but if that were the case then the federal attack on the south was, by Constitutional Definition, Treason.

A typical defense against the above reasoning is that the attack on Ft. Sumpter was the initial hostilities; but there is a very important and subtle difference: the definition of Treason does not cover attacking the federal government, but only the several states. (The usage of "them" is proof of plurality, which excludes the singular union that is the federal government -- besides, the founders were deeply distrustful of central authority and wanted to keep that in check.)

Blogger CM January 13, 2016 11:23 PM  

I think that, perhaps, the reason that Jonah comes up so often is because Jonah is the only sign that Jesus said would be given, referring to the Resurrection. (Just some thoughts.)

What's the reference for that? The signs of Christ in the OT are incredibly interesting to me.

I thought there were more signs of the resurrection than that, but trying to think of them I'm coming up blank.

There's a lot of signs pointing to the virgin birth that are pretty fascinating, though.

Blogger HalibetLector January 13, 2016 11:59 PM  

I am just surprised by the concentration of paedos in some demographics.

It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Demographics is destiny."

Blogger bob k. mando January 14, 2016 12:39 AM  

144. Azimus January 13, 2016 11:02 PM
Hmm, I had given you the benefit of the doubt that it was a typo. Turns out the nonsense was intentional. Funny.



uh, that's not nonsense. i have no problem understanding his point:
the Confederacy was "less than one" nation ... the Union.

otherwise, they wouldn't have lost.

Blogger Azimus January 14, 2016 1:10 AM  

150. Blogger bob k. mando January 14, 2016 12:39 AM

uh, that's not nonsense. i have no problem understanding his point:
the Confederacy was "less than one" nation ... the Union.

otherwise, they wouldn't have lost


You interpret it to be a pun then? "Less than Union"? An interesting thought to be sure, but I see no way of knowing what on earth he meant except "less than one". That's why I invited Desiderius to elaborate.

I was up to this moment expecting Desiderius's point to be some sort of emotional or poetic appeal, house divided against itself kind of stuff. I had not considered humor. I can't know til/if he replies. It's no great matter, the thread I had wanted to pursue is long dead due to disinterest by the ilk.

Blogger SciVo January 14, 2016 2:34 AM  

OneWingedShark @141:

Funny, I don't see the part where He says that He was lazy and horny, and we gave Him welfare and let Him molest our women.

Blogger newanubis January 14, 2016 3:16 AM  

If I may, one is consensual while the other is not. If you're indeed in search of an answer. If you're in search of a fight, I think you'll get that too!

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 14, 2016 7:59 AM  

Were the Articles Of Confederation a nation or many nations?

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau January 14, 2016 8:45 AM  

The Confederacy was a Confederation of States with a weak central Government. Jeff Davis had less power than the Governors and had a hard time getting them to do what he wanted. It's why the United States had many regiments that were Federal and had the title U.S. or U.S.V. while almost all Confederate Regiments were named for their State and there was a lot of Antagonism at times between the Governors and Davis when the states were invaded and their regiments were with Lee defending Virginia.

Blogger Rabbi B January 14, 2016 9:08 AM  

@148 CM

"What's the reference for that? The signs of Christ in the OT are incredibly interesting to me."

8 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”

He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here. The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon’s wisdom, and now something greater than Solomon is here.
(cf. Matthew 12 and 16; Luke 11)

Blogger Student in Blue January 14, 2016 9:10 AM  

@156. Rabbi B

Correct me if I'm wrong, Rabbi, but wasn't three days and three nights also significant in Jewish culture at the time because only after that period of time were people considered truly and well dead?

Blogger Rabbi B January 14, 2016 9:55 AM  

@157 Student in Blue

You are correct. It is an understanding that also helps shed light on the tremendous significance of Lazarus' death and resurrection in John which was so impressive, that not only did many Jews come to believe, but some of the Jewish leadership and others actively sought to destroy not only Y'shua, but Lazarus as well.

“Take away the stone,” he said.

“But, Lord,” said Martha, the sister of the dead man, “by this time there is a bad odor, for he has been there four days.


When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.

Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”


Therefore many of the Jews who had come to visit Mary, and had seen what Jesus did, believed in him.

Meanwhile a large crowd of Jews found out that Jesus was there and came, not only because of him but also to see Lazarus, whom he had raised from the dead. So the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and believing in him. (cf. John 11-12)

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 14, 2016 10:39 AM  

@All,

1. Praying for mercy for someone who is actively in the process of committing murder leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Shouldn't we instead pray first that they can be stopped? Or pray for the victims?

2. The fact that America has committed one of the greatest mass murders in world history proves, to my mind, that if it were a single nation it would be a thoroughly secularized one like Germany, China, Russia, etc. However I don't believe it is a single nation.

3. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that it's been such a casual affair, but right now I'm putting down to dopamine saturation, general self-righteousness, and population-wide attention and memory problems.

Blogger bob k. mando January 14, 2016 11:22 AM  

151. Azimus January 14, 2016 1:10 AM
You interpret it to be a pun then? "Less than Union"? An interesting thought to be sure



this subthread started with you asking "Was the Confederacy a nation or many nations?"

Desiderious replies with an option you didn't allow for: "<1"

if you just run at that head on, no, it doesn't make any sense.

if you approach it obliquely and ask the question "what if by '1', he means a particular nation which the Confederacy was less than?", then the statement's meaning quickly resolves.

stop worrying about the train and stop asking why you insist that we can't step off of the tracks.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 14, 2016 11:39 AM  

@148 "What's the reference for that?"

(Matt 12:39-40)
He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 14, 2016 11:47 AM  

@152 "Funny, I don't see the part where He says that He was lazy and horny, and we gave Him welfare and let Him molest our women."

That's not what I am, or He is, saying -- my point is that the only discriminant there has nothing whatsoever to do with nationality.

Anonymous Anonymous age 73 January 14, 2016 5:25 PM  

I live in Mexico and know no pedophiles, though pedos don'e advertise the fact, because as in most cultures true pedos die very fast. In Mexico, with machete chops or burned to death. I think maybe it's a matter of definition, but I am not sure. In Mexico they understand girls better. In the US, you actually in many cases buy into feminist doctrine and view 18 year old women as almost babies.

Here they know very well that once girls get their puberty, they get what some call the 'tingles' for men. So, they watch the girls like hawks because they well know the girls want sex. In the US, we pretend they don't, even though they do.

After age 12, if a boy or man has sex with a girl, and she is willing, it is not a matter for the police unless she or the family press charges. From 12 to 14, if he had sex with her and charges are pressed by family or girl, he spends a lot of time in prison.

That is, from 12 to 14, his only defense is he didn't have sex with her. Charges pressed, to jail. Period.

From 14 up, if it was consensual in the family's opinion, nothing is done. I had an English student, big for her age, a month or two ago, stop coming to English class. She was 14 or 15 and she decided to move in with her boy friend.

Her aunt came with the cousin student after that. She married at age 15.

It isn't so much they mature faster. It's more like they are trained in domestics at a young age. So, the thought of being married doesn't turn them off so much after puberty. My wife had a cousin who married at age 13 in the Fifties. My wife denied it, but I read the marriage certificate. She is still married, still alive, and has grandchildren and perhaps great-grandchildren.

Don't misunderstand. Many girls wait until after high school, or even later to marry. In the US, at a young age, you have unwed mothers, though statistically, less as time passes. In Mexico, her family gives her the boot to life with the boy's parents to care for Seems right to me.

Now, if you are talking about true pedos, that means having sex with pre-pubescent children, that is a real bad idea in Mexico. There will be nothing left for prison, in most cases. See http://www.cnnmexico.com/nacional/2015/10/29/ocho-detenidos-mas-por-linchamiento-de-encuestadores-en-ajalpan-puebla and the girl they were accused by the mob of raping told them they weren't the ones who raped her. One man was burned alive; autopsy showed his lungs were cooked. They were working as business researchers and did nothing wrong. A few weeks earlier, a true pedo in the same area was beat nearly to death. it took nearly 70 police operatives to extract him from the mob.

But, there is a problem with illegals in the US. Most come from small villages where there are no jobs and no opportunities. But, also the worst criminals in Mexico, which includes Trump's, rapists; murderers; and kidnappers (plus the pedos) when they know the cops are looking for them run to the USA to hide in Mexican communities. That's why so many legals support Trump. They have to live around those vicious bastards.

Blogger tz January 14, 2016 7:18 PM  

While I agree with Rev. Graham that the abandonment and rejection of God is the most significant problem, you cannot put an egg back together when you've not only got a cracked egg, but also bits and pieces of a sausage, a burrito, and won ton soup.

Humpty Dumpty - who is the master of words - sat on a wall. Or would but the government won't get around to building it. It is mutton sausage as the yolk's on ewe wether or knot.

Humpty was not a RINO, but a Shellephant. Kudlow was on powder, not Crack.

That aside, Frankie is right but doesn't know why. We are morally broken. But it is because when some goal like immigration, welfare, whatever was possible - but at the price of abandoning principle and morals, we CHOSE to abandon them.

His Hypocrisy has been visible for a while:

https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham/posts/883361438386705

Listen up--Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and everybody else. Most police shootings can be avoided. It comes down to respect for authority and obedience. If a police officer tells you to stop, you stop. If a police officer tells you to put your hands in the air, you put your hands in the air. If a police officer tells you to lay down face first with your hands behind your back, you lay down face first with your hands behind your back. It’s as simple as that. Even if you think the police officer is wrong—YOU OBEY. Parents, teach your children to respect and obey those in authority. Mr. President, this is a message our nation needs to hear, and they need to hear it from you. Some of the unnecessary shootings we have seen recently might have been avoided. The Bible says to submit to your leaders and those in authority “because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account.”

Right. Obey the broken, unjust, immoral authority. Then wonder why no one bothers to fix it.

Blogger Azimus January 14, 2016 7:23 PM  

160. bob k. mando January 14, 2016 11:22 AM
stop worrying about the train and stop asking why you insist that we can't step off of the tracks


Touche.

I'm unaccustomed to this level of laconism.

I work in manufacturing. Everything must be explained explicitly, and that three times, in two languages. I also have 4 small children. Wit goes right over my head.

Blogger tz January 14, 2016 7:31 PM  

Paedophelia is inherently contraceptive (not to be confused with Pederasty).

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Anonymous Discard January 14, 2016 10:16 PM  

167. James William: Portland, Oregon. Why am I not surprised? Just doing your part to Keep Portland Weird, I see.

Guards!

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 15, 2016 3:14 PM  

Lol.

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