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Sunday, January 31, 2016

Quit Facebook

I've never been enthusiastic about Facebook. I hated the clunky interface from the start, saw little point in endlessly exchanging pictures and updates with acquaintances, and only set up an account there because it was required as part of a design job I had to do. I never used it - although since I linked my Twitter account to it, many thought I did - and I was content to leave it after Andrew Marston brought it to the attention of the Facebook police and got it deleted under the "real names" policy.

That being said, if I was on Facebook today, I would delete my account due to the way it is now waging open war against nationalists and American gun rights.
Facebook is banning private sales of guns on its flagship social network and its Instagram photo-sharing service, a move meant to clamp down on unlicensed gun transactions.

Facebook already prohibits people from offering marijuana, pharmaceuticals and illegal drugs for sale, and the company said on Friday that it was updating its policy to include guns. The ban applies to private, person-to-person sales of guns. Licensed gun dealers and gun clubs can still maintain Facebook pages and post on Instagram.
The time to choose your social media side is coming. Don't support the enemy. Delete your account. It's obvious that all the big social media companies are, at the very least, SJW-friendly, but some like Amazon and Google, and even Twitter, are still playing reasonably fair. Remember, Milo was only unverified by Twitter; he wasn't banned. Amazon took down John Scalzi Is A Rapist: Why SJWs Always Lie In Bed Waiting For His Gentle Touch; A Pretty, Pretty Girl Dreams of Her Beloved One While Pondering Gender Identity, Social Justice, and Body Dysmorphia.due to the legally-questionable title but the same book is still for sale on Amazon under its new name, John Scalzi Banned This Book But He Can Never Ban My Burning Love.

Others, like Facebook, Goodreads, and Wikipedia, are not so much tilting the playing field as refusing to let the Right even enter it. So don't support them. You don't have to. You really don't.

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92 Comments:

Anonymous Quartermaster January 31, 2016 9:10 AM  

Facebook is simply a data mining scam. I've been telling people at church to get off it for a year. No Christian should be on it.

Blogger Shimshon January 31, 2016 9:10 AM  

But the title was 100% accurate!

Blogger Verne January 31, 2016 9:17 AM  

Seems I was ahead of the curve with Facebook, I deleted mine a year ago. The good news with Facebook is that the kids are no longer using it very much, if at all. So Facebook's glory days are done, Though I do not foresee its death coming as fast as say MySpace. There are a huge number of accounts on facebook, but the younger folks who made Facebook. Their accounts are not very active anymore. They are too busy snap chatting and other phone based apps. They are where their mom isn't

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 31, 2016 9:22 AM  

I made very little use of FB from the very beginning; I'm not really a social media person in any event. So this makes very little difference to me.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 31, 2016 9:31 AM  

The gun types have come up with Full30 and alternative to youtube and from what I have seen of it it does seem to work well.

Blogger Melampus the Seer January 31, 2016 9:53 AM  

Check out Ello as an alternative.

See their Bill of Rights: https://bill-of-rights.ello.co

Blogger David of One January 31, 2016 9:55 AM  

We need a viable alternative to Ooggle. Opera had a really nice blogging site but they closed it down the year before last. They do have a good email system. Perhaps it is their time to restart their blogging site and offer a viable alternative to the Ooggler.

Blogger David of One January 31, 2016 9:56 AM  

... and some sort of social networking ...

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 31, 2016 9:58 AM  

Isn't Gunbroker a thing? Or is that only for Florida?

Anonymous disambiguated January 31, 2016 10:02 AM  

Vox, that's actually bad advice.

It's important to have an account on all the major social media sites, so that someone doesn't come along and create one in order to impersonate you, either for propagandistic or fraudulent purposes.

Create your account, crank the privacy settings all the way up, and then never post or 'like' anything. That way, you've ensured you've a real account you can point to if someone is impersonating you, while at the same time leaching resources from the social media company in question and refusing to let them monetize you.

Blogger Ben January 31, 2016 10:11 AM  

Twitter is playing reasonably fair? What about Jesus Milo???

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 31, 2016 10:12 AM  

@8 White Knight Leo #0368: Gunbroker.com is very much a thing, and I've used it to buy and sell guns and accessories. But it's the equivalent of the impersonal eBay (as I recall was up and running a few weeks after eBay banned guns from its site).

Anonymous grey enlightenment January 31, 2016 10:12 AM  

never had a facebook account ever or a twitter unless you count fake ones. Unless you have f-u money, you would have to be an idiot to use your real name on either of those services

Blogger VD January 31, 2016 10:12 AM  

Vox, that's actually bad advice.

No, it's not. MySpace is not a host of fake accounts impersonating people for propagandistic or fraudulent purposes. You are assuming that Facebook is forever. It isn't.

Do you really think that someone like me, who is impersonated and attacked more than any 100 people here, would be unaware of the possibilities? It's simply not a serious issue.

Blogger VD January 31, 2016 10:14 AM  

Twitter is playing reasonably fair?

Reasonably. Not completely. But they have not, as some SJWs have openly demanded, shut down Donald Trump's account. Just to give one example. They are an amenable authority, they are not fully converged in the way Facebook and Goodreads are.

Blogger Pravda Zvíťazí January 31, 2016 10:15 AM  

Facebook only made sense within its initial environs: the college campus. There, at least from 2006-2010, it was good for two things: 1)promoting/locating parties/events and 2)keeping in touch with your college/hometown friends while away during break/semester (respectively). Outside of that context, it can't really bring people together or maintain meaningful friendships through any larger expanses of time and space. About the only real use I've had for it since college has been as authentication for dating apps. However, that doesn't really require any actual use of the thing, merely that it exist.

Blogger #2178 January 31, 2016 10:19 AM  

When I joined Facebook in 2006 there were a dozen people at my university who had accounts. I closed my account in 2010.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 31, 2016 10:20 AM  

@11

Well, what else do you need for private gun sales? The only way you would need social media to advertise is if you were a dealer, and they already allow dealers.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 31, 2016 10:23 AM  

@11

I certainly understand the complaint here: they're treating private gun sales, which are 100% legal in most states, as the equivalent of private *drug* sales, which are almost 100% illegal. So yes, I get the complaint.

I'm just wondering why it even matters - apart from the implicit criticism of gun sales - when Gunbroker is already a viable alternative.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 31, 2016 10:24 AM  

@8: Gunbroker is THE firearms auction site at this time. eBay for guns.

I don't really expect Facebook or anything like it to be rational about the buying and selling of firearms. They have no idea of what the law actually is...just like the nonexistent "gun show loophole".

Blogger Nate January 31, 2016 10:25 AM  

What strange line in the sand to draw. It honestly never crossed my mind to buy or sell guns on Facebook. The whole idea is retarded.

Anonymous Difster January 31, 2016 10:25 AM  

The Dread Ilk have alternate methods of communication that we're pretty guarded about. We also have a place for the VFM But it is not widely utilized yet.

The Dread Ilk are weaning ourselves off off Facebook and many of us hardly post outside of our closed group.

I think organizing a massive quit Facebook day would be more effective then just quietly slinking away.

Blogger endwatcher January 31, 2016 10:32 AM  

I quit facebook completely last fall. Life is just fine without it. The only communication that really matters is face to face anyway.

Blogger SS January 31, 2016 10:36 AM  

@difster re: vfm not widely utilized

Could be just me but I'm a VFM and have no idea what you're talking about so that could be part of the problem

Blogger endwatcher January 31, 2016 10:41 AM  

I quit facebook completely last fall. Life is just fine without it. The only communication that really matters is face to face anyway.

Blogger J Melcher January 31, 2016 10:52 AM  

VD: "Do you really think that someone like me ... would be unaware of the possibilities? "

The commentary on your advice, and counter-advice, I infer, is directed at people unlike Vox, or Milo. It's directed at much more ordinary schmoes, like me.

Note that comment systems, like here, that make the reasonable choice to require user identification (I prefer pseudonymous comments, but don't feel fanatic about that issue) may rely on social media sites to do the authentication (here, livejournal or google+). There can be advantages to the counter-advice suggesting a non-celebrity netizen "register to vote" with Facebook. The balance of advantages to disadvantages shifts over time -- just as it does with voter-registration. Some citizens make the rational choice not to participate in elections, or are concerned about the often concomitant obligations of jury duty. Fine, but then how would they notice if a fraud artist registers and obtains, for example, mail ballots and votes "on their behalf"? (A frequent occurrence in local elections in Dallas, Tx)

The duties associated with virtuous net-izenship are still evolving, I think. Good advice from two years ago may be bad advice today -- and vice versa. I'd like to hear more about the idea.

By the way, thanks for the reminder about "voter registration" on the KC world-con, Hugo voting, schedule.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 31, 2016 10:59 AM  

Please. If there is anything the Internet is not lacking in, it's gun websites. Shit, I buy handguards and optics on Amazon.

Quitcherbitchin

Blogger GK Chesterton January 31, 2016 11:08 AM  

If you read FB's actual policy it appears to only apply to actual illegal activity...which from their own wording they are woefully ignorant of. To that end I think this is more virtue signalling than a problematic policy. Doesn't Zuckerberg hunt? I thought he did...

Blogger SteelPalm January 31, 2016 11:10 AM  

Excellent post, although I would add Twitter to the Facebook/Wikipedia/Goodreads scumbag categorization. I would almost argue they are slightly worse than Facebook.

Yes, they might not have banned Milo, but they have banned smaller fry simply for being nationalist or right-wing.

Blogger LES January 31, 2016 11:12 AM  

I use Facebook as my blog. I am able to provide my views, with links, to family and friends without heated personal arguments.

I've been unfriended a few times but so what?

Blogger Doseux January 31, 2016 11:14 AM  

I swore I would never use Facebook again after watching a DEFCon video on their privacy violations. I had quit some time before, but now I would never go for it again for the fact that they wage war against their users' right to anonymity and pseudonymity.

OpenID dreadilkzee January 31, 2016 11:17 AM  

Have you looked at MeWe? I have tried Ello but it lacks android and iOS app. Though there is an admitted beauty to the simplicity of it's interface. Actually looks like Ello has an app in Beta but only for IOs.

Blogger tridekka January 31, 2016 11:19 AM  

Re: Guns.

The majority of the postings here are for Georgia, but there's enough volume on the site to make it worthwhile for people in neighboring states to check out as well. The Outdoors Trader

Don't buy up all the 10mm glocks.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 31, 2016 11:23 AM  

@32

I have no doubt that sales of Fallout 4 are helping Glock out with the sales of the G20 and G40.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet January 31, 2016 11:25 AM  

I think some of you may be missing the point here...

clamp down on unlicensed gun transactions

Liberals now call private sales "unlicensed" or part of a gunshow "loophole."

The point of banning Facebook sales, which as Nate indirectly points out is likely not happening in large amounts, is to push the redefinition of private sale through one of the biggest major media outlet in the country: Facebook.

Fewer people will be against private sales worded as such. But many will support all sales being licensed because "it's just like a drivers license, man. What's the problem, nutjob?"

and since even now selling 1 gun can make you a dealer...

Blogger VD January 31, 2016 11:35 AM  

I use Facebook as my blog. I am able to provide my views, with links, to family and friends without heated personal arguments.

And in doing so, you are providing important material support to the enemy and encouraging your family and friends to become enmeshed in it.

Quit Facebook.

Blogger SS January 31, 2016 11:44 AM  

I stopped using about 4 years ago. Didn't know if I'd use it again so I left it idle. About 18 months ago I got tired of the email spam about why I should come back and friend requests. I deleted it that day. For the next six months different people, "why did you unfriend me" *facepalm*

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume January 31, 2016 11:51 AM  

MySpace might be ripe for the taking? Is it still 'dead'?

Blogger bob k. mando January 31, 2016 11:52 AM  

i would quit BookFace ...

but i never opened an account.

*shrugs*

Anonymous Garrulus January 31, 2016 11:55 AM  

Note: Whatsapp and Instagram are also facebook companies.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 31, 2016 11:58 AM  

I barely use it as it is.

Although I've lately noticed a lot things getting pushed my way that are SJW propagantastic.

The Big Thing about Facebook is that it is and always has been by, for and about women.

Men use it as lazy ass way to blog to a very, very limited audience. But for women Facebook is incredibly addictive.

It is an unending source of female affirmation. It's the tea party that never ends. With the addition of the emoji it became all about the feelz.

I'm all for giving FB the finger but we will need a replacement.

Blogger YIH January 31, 2016 12:01 PM  

@28. GK Chesterton:
Doesn't Zuckerberg hunt? I thought he did...
According to CNN supposedly he's dabbling in it:
is first kill was a lobster, which he boiled alive. He says it was a difficult kill, at least emotionally. He had an entirely new feeling once he took a bite: "The most interesting thing was how special it felt to eat it after having not eaten any seafood or meat in a while."
No, merchant, not all of us goyim are, and I quote:
Zuckerberg: People just submitted it.
Zuckerberg: I don't know why.
Zuckerberg: They "trust me"
Zuckerberg: Dumb fucks.
Killing chickens, OK, I get it, but eating lobster? Killing pigs for food?
Yeah, right.

Blogger Jeff Wood January 31, 2016 12:05 PM  

A friendly review of "Cuckservative" at American Renaissance:

http://www.amren.com/features/2016/01/unmasking-the-cucks/

Anonymous Shawn January 31, 2016 12:12 PM  

Delete your Google-owned Blogger account while you are at it.

Anonymous Shawn January 31, 2016 12:16 PM  

VD, send your Google-owned Blogger archives over to a non-SJW warrior company& get your own URL.

Anonymous Sw. January 31, 2016 12:23 PM  

Any recommendations for replacing Goodreads? Wife uses it to track what she's read.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean January 31, 2016 12:29 PM  

As a very private person, Facebook never appealed to me. However, Twitter is another matter. I find it an excellent source of info. Twitter is the first thing I check in the morning, especially any Vox tweets!

I pray it doesn't go full Leftard.

Blogger The Other Robot January 31, 2016 12:32 PM  

You don't have to call them guns.

You can call them metal dispensers, peace makers, diversity reduction devices, or whatever.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 31, 2016 12:33 PM  

@35

The written law hasn't changed. You still have to be "in the business of selling firearms".

Even the BATFE admitted that Obama's executive orders literally changed nothing about how that law is enforced. They have to have probable cause to believe that you are trying to make at least part of your living through sales in order for you to be considered an "unlicensed dealer".

No court would buy 1 gun sale as "in the business of" unless you literally made enough money from one sale to last you a whole year; in which case what the hell did you just sell, a Ma Deuce?

Blogger S Ss January 31, 2016 12:46 PM  

I think it can be used to maintain friendships but it requires both sides to put effort into it. In my experience most people have no desire to put in that effort for many if any people on facebook, so friendships with them are impossible to maintain via facebook alone.

Blogger Achilles January 31, 2016 12:54 PM  

I use it to keep in contact with distant relatives (by mileage not blood). How else am I going to know what they ate, what their pets are thinking, or their latest jogging route?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 31, 2016 12:58 PM  

Please. If there is anything the Internet is not lacking in, it's gun websites. Shit, I buy handguards and optics on Amazon.

Quitcherbitchin

Anonymous BGKB January 31, 2016 1:01 PM  

Facebook is simply a data mining scam. They alter news feeds so that messages they don't like don't spread.

Anonymous kfg January 31, 2016 1:01 PM  

What's Facebook?

"Facebook is simply a data mining scam . . ."

Even my 80 something year old mother took one look at it and figured that out. A number of her friends keep applying pressure on her to join, but she won't have anything to do with it.

" . . . they're treating private gun sales, which are 100% legal in most states, as the equivalent of private *drug* sales, which are almost 100% illegal."

I've got to get the hell out of NY.

Anonymous Susan January 31, 2016 1:02 PM  

Somebody commenting here,(can't remember who) suggested a social media site called MeWe. Out of curiosity I checked it out. They seem to have a great privacy policy, and lots of choices to choose from. They are the total opposite of FB which is just another collaborating quisling for the Feds.

My two cents about the SJW's regarding Trump and Twitter? Remember what happened when Milo got unverified? Do the Titter execs REALLY want to go there with a shut down of Trump?

Anonymous Anonymous January 31, 2016 1:18 PM  

MeWe.com is awesome except for their current PR initiative... Which is easy to ignore.

Blogger weka January 31, 2016 1:30 PM  

I like ello. When it comes to my hobbies (yes I have a life) it is fantastic. For if you share photos you keep copyright, and they have really good privacy policies.

Facebook is for watching Michael Z Williamson get serially banned.

Anonymous Godfrey January 31, 2016 1:47 PM  

Facebook is old news. Who does Facebook anymore? Grandma maybe?

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 31, 2016 1:55 PM  

In the media induced ADHD culture, most of us can't maintain friendships if the person isn't in front of us, let alone nearby enough to spend time with.

Though as a guy, I don't need Facebook to stay in touch with my guy friends, nor a phone for that matter. Text is good enough, and when we meet up once a year, it's like we pick back up from where we left off. I rather like hearing the stories from a friend than liking photos he took and posted.

Maybe that's why I find Facebook to be effeminate. It's basically an aide for gossip and less a way to stay in touch and connected.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 31, 2016 2:07 PM  

When, not if, you quit Facebook, be sure to enforce it with your social group. Super bowl party organized on FB? Ignore it and host your own and notify who you want to attend without using FB. Get notified last minute by a friend about said FBbinvite or is casually mentioned in conversation, ignore it, doesn't exist unless a formal invitation outside of FB happens.

You'll miss a few parties before people ask you about it. Just stay the course and train them to notify you. Also, with your male friends, mock the site for being effeminate and a place for women to attention whore. I've gotten several of my friends to effectively give it up - they no longer log in - and deletion will soon follow.

Lead and live without it and soon others will follow.

Now to figure out a replacement for Gmail, because Google provides useful services, unlike Facepalm.

Blogger Jourdan January 31, 2016 2:46 PM  

Facebook is really a giant MMO for women.

Blogger RobertT January 31, 2016 3:03 PM  

30. Les, 36. I use facebook as my blog.

Use LinkedIn instead. Commonly done. At least they haven't shut anyone's water off. Hats off to all bloggers. You're committing a ton of time.

Blogger RobertT January 31, 2016 3:10 PM  

I love twitter. All the rest suck. Why don't you guys develop an alternative? Time is ripe. Twitter's tanking, getting publicity about lib values, management bailing, what's left isn't very good, taking it the wrong direction. For some reason, they can't monetize it and they're dissatisfied with what they created. Like Einstein walking away from Relativity. Good timing to give it a shot. Wake-up call for SJW Sacca.

Anonymous Starets January 31, 2016 3:11 PM  

@46 Sw.
"Any recommendations for replacing Goodreads? Wife uses it to track what she's read."

If she can do without the social media aspect of Goodreads, and only wants something to keep track of and notes about books, Zim may be useful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zim_%28software%29
http://zim-wiki.org/

It is a desktop wiki, stored on your own computer, not some dubiously secure cloud or third party server. It allows links between pages, lightweight markup, compilation of notes to webpage, etc.

It is useful for any note taking purposes.

Blogger RobertT January 31, 2016 3:11 PM  

I love twitter. All the rest suck. Why don't you guys develop an alternative? Time is ripe. Twitter's tanking, getting publicity about lib values, management bailing, what's left isn't very good, taking it the wrong direction. For some reason, they can't monetize it and they're dissatisfied with what they created. Like Einstein walking away from Relativity. Good timing to give it a shot. Wake-up call for SJW Sacca.

Blogger Nate January 31, 2016 3:39 PM  

Facebook is massively useful for community organizing... and if you are not community organizing... then you ain't prepping.

You absolutely should be maintaining facebook group pages for you neighborhoods. You should be using that page to organize things like neighborhood chili contests and block parties... and all sorts of events. You want your neighborhood to be a tight close knit group and facebook is a great tool to do that with.

Vox has always hated Facebook. i myself have always seen it as a tool to create the communities we need to carry on when it all goes to crap.

I know I know... you're not a social butterfly. and all this sounds gay.

I'll tell you why it matters. You can't fight alone. And the people who are going to be there to help when the shit goes down... ain't on the internet. They're next door.

We had a rash of car break ins one night. Because of the facebook group eveyone knew about it instantly and we were able to take steps to make sure it was stopped. as a group we set up game cams all over the neighborhood and organized patrols all night long... and the system is still in place for random night patrols through the neighborhood.

Now.. it makes it much easier... but if facebook was to go away tomorrow, because of the progress we've already made the our community would be fine.

But look at your own neighborhood? Does everyone know everyone? does everyone REALLY look out for everyone? IF break-ins happened could you organize like we did in just a few hours?

if you can that's awesome. Congrats.

If you can't... you better start building the community you're gonna need.

Blogger Pravda Zvíťazí January 31, 2016 3:45 PM  

@S Ss"[...]it requires both sides to put effort into it."

@Durandel Almiras "Text is good enough [...]"

I think you guys pretty much nailed it. One friend from college I keep up with primarily through email, another guy pretty much only 2-3x a year by phone. If your friendship is based on ideas,any form of communication will do, and distance isn't an issue. If your friendship is based around activities (drinking buddies, teammates) social media will never fill that gap, only renewed proximity.

Anonymous FrankNorman January 31, 2016 4:16 PM  

66. Nate January 31, 2016 3:39 PM

Facebook is massively useful for community organizing... and if you are not community organizing... then you ain't prepping.

You absolutely should be maintaining facebook group pages for you neighborhoods. You should be using that page to organize things like neighborhood chili contests and block parties... and all sorts of events. You want your neighborhood to be a tight close knit group and facebook is a great tool to do that with.


A blast of pure sanity from Nate.
FB has its uses. Just don't put your whole life on there, like some people I know.

Blogger YIH January 31, 2016 4:19 PM  

@45. Shawn:
Not the same.
brought it to the attention of the Facebook police and got it deleted under the "real names" policy.
IOW, when he established his faceberg account he likely did as 'Vox Day', his professional name - and the one he's better known as. Think Mark Twain/Samuel Clemons. I don't know if Google has changed it's policies but it wouldn't surprise me if it still doesn't care about pseudonyms/fake personal info.
For example, according to Google, I live on Antarctica (no, really, it's a country option).
Faceberg does demand accurate personal info, because literally, what Zuckhead calls ''dumb fucks'' are the 'product' that Zuckhead is the merchant of.
Google doesn't work that way, or need to. It's an ad seller, those ads on YouTube or in search results, as well as Adsense/Google ads is how Google makes it's money.
About the only thing Google knows for sure about me is my actual location within about a 5 mile/10 kilometer radius.

Blogger LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up Gold, Cooling Under Snow January 31, 2016 4:40 PM  

FB is a database Julian Assaunge and Vox and others like myself warned about.

Leaving is complex, I pulled several boners at farceberg or frickbook or bacebagbook to be tossed off several times. It took that many times, meaning I held back. The final time I was intently so out of control FB kept trying to keep me, FB tossed me off.

Yet 2015, a gym pal searched me and found info/accounts in my name that don't belong to me or have a copied/pasted picture of the evening gown from now a few years ago to pinned pictures from family in 2008.


FB is about Mil-Len's (?), attention, bagging girls, bragging, spying on family, general spying.

Over the last few years the real agenda of facebook is unveiled and the idiots continue there too stupid to suspend accounts or get expelled.

I went beyond the (Diabolik, Kanata's Teddy Bear routine) routine to be tossed off FB and still I'm searchable or whatever there. I went beyond the question of, "well let me ask Teddy why I want to stop this account" - way before I was even exposed to the torment of Diabolike Lovers anime. Leaving FB was an experiment family and I pulled to learn how right Julian was and he is correct on his comments of FB.

2008, 2009, til like 2013, info was still traced.

FB is such a failure and joke.

Blogger FALPhil January 31, 2016 4:41 PM  

@62 Use LinkedIn instead. Commonly done. At least they haven't shut anyone's water off. Hats off to all bloggers. You're committing a ton of time.

LinkedIn is no better. In fact, it is worse, because most people list their employer. Write something controversial on LinkedIn, or even anywhere on the interwebz? Your HR department will be inundated with SJW telephone calls and emails.

Ask me how I know.

Blogger FALPhil January 31, 2016 4:41 PM  

@62 Use LinkedIn instead. Commonly done. At least they haven't shut anyone's water off. Hats off to all bloggers. You're committing a ton of time.

LinkedIn is no better. In fact, it is worse, because most people list their employer. Write something controversial on LinkedIn, or even anywhere on the interwebz? Your HR department will be inundated with SJW telephone calls and emails.

Ask me how I know.

Blogger LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up Gold, Cooling Under Snow January 31, 2016 4:49 PM  

One can bear their lives to a database as predictive programming or predictive processing in a stateside where everything is illegal.

Pinterest is easier to navigate than FB, FB is cheap, stupid for its format. College children are going to child or youth around playing with techono then playing the public with absurd IPO's!!

I love the failure.

I love the offense that FB is making towards its users as FBerg and staff creeps screw up format and everything else. Multi genders, anti gun, anti freedom - if a ESFP boomer or extrovert is celebrating FB with a Judaskiss post, we all knew or know FB was no damn good!

Anonymous kfg January 31, 2016 6:08 PM  

@Captain Obvious:

In the same way that it's "convenient" that the wholesome things I wish to retain pass through my filters and the dross does not.

OpenID obsoleteman January 31, 2016 6:30 PM  

I suspended my account about a month ago, after the San Bernardino shooting, because of some of the non-sense over gun control.
More to the point, Vox was right. FB is essentially a circle jerk. So I decided to be an "unperson" on it.

Blogger YIH January 31, 2016 6:35 PM  

now call private sales "unlicensed" or part of a gunshow "loophole."
The written law hasn't changed. You still have to be "in the business of selling firearms".

Even the BATFE admitted that Obama's executive orders literally changed nothing about how that law is enforced. They have to have probable cause to believe that you are trying to make at least part of your living through sales in order for you to be considered an "unlicensed dealer".

No court would buy 1 gun sale as "in the business of" unless you literally made enough money from one sale to last you a whole year; in which case what the hell did you just sell, a Ma Deuce?

It's a problem with ''private sales'', what is a 'private sale' and what is 'an ongoing business'?
You give a Krugerrand, I trade that for a firearm that I choose to sell, done and done.
But how many 'private sales' mean ''you are a gun seller''?
Not so simple is it?
I doubt I could sell a firearm to Vox
because of the regs.
Pehaps I'm wrong, but at least I found out that Italy is pretty ''liberal'' when it comes to gun laws.
Considering what we did to Japan: Second Amendment? What fucking second amendment?
Japan, in the postwar period, has had gun regulation which is strict in principle. Gun licensing is required, and is heavily regulated by the National Police Agency of Japan.

The weapons law begins by stating "No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords", and very few exceptions are allowed.[71] However, citizens are permitted to possess firearms for hunting and sport shooting, but only after submitting to a lengthy licensing procedure.[72]

Not even a sword? That sucks.

Blogger HalibetLector January 31, 2016 6:58 PM  

LinkedIn is no better. In fact, it is worse

I won't even read articles hosted on LinkedIn anymore. As for social networks that are still viable, wordpress.com, blogspot.com and livejournal still work. If weev hasn't been banned from livejournal yet, pretty much everyone else is safe.

Anonymous Qwisp January 31, 2016 6:58 PM  

I deleted my facebook account after I came to the conclusion that there is something definitely feminine, or feminizing, about it. Trifling, narcissistic posts...a need for external validation...screw that

Blogger DeeDee Arnold January 31, 2016 7:06 PM  

Let me just say, as a Baby Boomer, that I’ve always considered “social media” to be the way the loser cadre reaches out to their Comrades. Lots of pictorial grunting and gesticulating.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling January 31, 2016 7:09 PM  

@77 YIH:

Considering what we did to Japan

What we did to Japan? That country has had strict weapons control since the late 16th Century.

Blogger Thucydides January 31, 2016 7:12 PM  

So it's really about time for Vox and his crew of VFM's (or whoever has been tasked to do so) to start rolling out the SJW free alternatives.

One issue with alternatives is the ecosystem is massively biased towards whatever has more connections, but between the VFM's, various Ilk and fellow travellers like the puppies, we are already creating an ecosystem with something like 2000 members just to start (I am assuming there is quite a bit of overlap between the various groups. I'm not going to ask just so if it does happen, there will be more shock and awe value).

That number may be small, but is probably a large enough nucleus to trigger a phase change in the larger Internet ecosystem.

Blogger DeeDee Arnold January 31, 2016 7:24 PM  

So here’s the thing. You may feel really good about grunting and gesticulating, but if you pay taxes to the Federal Government, you are just grunting and gesticulating. Civil disobedience. Just saying.

Anonymous SW. January 31, 2016 8:43 PM  

Alternatives to Goodreads:

http://www.kerrygiven.com/1298/the-best-goodreads-alternatives-book-reviews-cataloging-recommendations-and-more/

Blogger DeeDee Arnold January 31, 2016 9:09 PM  

Might I just say, you are never going to Twitter or Facebook your way to freedom. The Orcs (or whatever you call them) feed off your taxes. They have no other means of sustenance. You are sustaining them. Stop that and you starve them.

Blogger YIH January 31, 2016 10:25 PM  

@70. LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up Gold, Cooling Under Snow:
FB is about Mil-Len's (?), attention, bagging girls, bragging, spying on family, general spying.
Didn't Orwell warn us about this many, many, years ago?
As far as I'm concerned, the online Grabbler must be avoided.

Blogger JCclimber February 01, 2016 3:08 AM  

I think we are also seeing a difference between extroverts and introverts in the reaction to Facepalm.

Even with frequent purges of SJW types, it is very easy to get near 500 friends, whom I know from church, school, work, or life.

I've already stated that I'm leaving it, and why, and noticed my linked video to the German girl is shadowbanned (I made it "public", but only close friends can see it).

Similar to Nate, I use it for organizing things with my various evangelistic mission. But I am certain that everything on there is archived by NSA for future usage, although the person couldn't tell me that directly, the message came through clearly.

Anonymous Haxo Angmark February 01, 2016 6:30 AM  

I keep close track of obits on Wiki editors/referees who perish in mountain-climbing accidents. So far, each and every one, and I mean EVERY one, has been a lesbian Jewess. I believe this fact to be of considerable significance. On one occasion (actress Kathy Beller's page), I removed the rather tame pic of her and substituted a freeze from one of her nude scenes in THE BETSY. The howl of outrage was almost instantaneous

Anonymous That Would Be Telling February 01, 2016 7:25 AM  

"Facebook Implements Chinese-Style Censorship/Snitch Policies on GUNS. To no one's surprise, "Mark Zuckerberg is now sucking up to the Chinese to allow his social media network in," and cites an obsequious meeting with the top PRC Internet official. He's indeed a really awful person, and such people don't tend to produce good things. Compare to the Google cofounders, one of whom learned his anti-totalitarianism in the USSR as a child.

Anonymous Difranco February 01, 2016 10:26 AM  

I just get so much coordinated activism done on Facebook. Whether its keeping tabs on the legislature, county, Forest service etc. It'd be really time consuming to seek that information individually.

Blogger Tom Kratman February 01, 2016 4:35 PM  

Actually, were I Zuckerberg's lawyer, I'd probably advise him to do just that, to avoid future liability. But blame the pols and the courts - oh, and idiot juries, too - for that.

As is, it's just precatory nonsense. He can't stop the codes that will spring up: Zombie control device, lead launcher, recoil containment and directional unit, or RCADU, etc. He can't stop the numbers: 9, 45, 44, 223, 556, 38, 380, 9k, the 30 of 1906, 7.62 or 762, etc.

There are lots of good reasons to dump FB, not least that it can be a time suck, but this isn't really one of them. It's just irrelevant bullshit.

Blogger Tom Kratman February 01, 2016 4:36 PM  

Actually, were I Zuckerberg's lawyer, I'd probably advise him to do just that, to avoid future liability. But blame the pols and the courts - oh, and idiot juries, too - for that.

As is, it's just precatory nonsense. He can't stop the codes that will spring up: Zombie control device, lead launcher, recoil containment and directional unit, or RCADU, etc. He can't stop the numbers: 9, 45, 44, 223, 556, 38, 380, 9k, the 30 of 1906, 7.62 or 762, etc.

There are lots of good reasons to dump FB, not least that it can be a time suck, but this isn't really one of them. It's just irrelevant bullshit.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 02, 2016 3:39 PM  

@46 Sw.

Any recommendations for replacing Goodreads? Wife uses it to track what she's read.
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I like LibraryThing

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