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Tuesday, January 19, 2016

She hasn't forgotten

Sarah Palin endorses Donald Trump for president:
Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice-presidential nominee who became a Tea Party sensation and a favorite of grass-roots conservatives, will endorse Donald J. Trump in Iowa on Tuesday, officials with his campaign confirmed. The endorsement provides Mr. Trump with a potentially significant boost just 13 days before the state’s caucuses.

“I’m proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for president,” Ms. Palin said in a statement provided by his campaign.
I can't help but suspect the abuse Sarah Palin experienced at the hands of the Republican establishment might have had just a little something to do with her decision to throw her support to Trump. But regardless, this is a big deal, as it is an indication how women who are concerned about immigration and vibrancy are going to vote.

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OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 4:48 PM  

And Ted Cruz backtracked on his comments attacking Palin for supporting Trump. Just as he did at the debate with his New York comments. Immediately applauding Trump's response to his idiocy.

Cruz officially has a new nickname, Captain Dicktuck.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados January 19, 2016 4:49 PM  

Yep, the establishment shit on her back in 2008. So did the MSM. There's a tsunami heading to DC, and it isn't gonna stop until all the shit if swept from our government!

Blogger Gapeseed January 19, 2016 4:50 PM  

But are we sure the establishment is monolithic in its abhorrence of Trump? Seems that Cruz also has significant problems with the establishment (and in particular, his Senate colleagues), and Palin might actually be doing some parts of the establishment a favor here.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 19, 2016 4:53 PM  

Watching the clear emergence of anti-establishment parties and individual candidates leads me to contemplating just how far the establishment will go to maintain the illusion of liberal democracy.

The illusion is already wearing quite thin, but it is interesting to consider when and how they will choose to abandon the pretense altogether ...

Anonymous Soga January 19, 2016 4:56 PM  

Palin might actually be doing some parts of the establishment a favor here.

Sarah Palin strikes most people as the kind of woman you would like as your grandmother, but for the love of all that is golden in Trump's tower, not President!

Blogger VD January 19, 2016 4:56 PM  

Seems that Cruz also has significant problems with the establishment

Horseshit. They don't like him, but they own him. He's married and in debt to Goldman Sachs. He's a total non-starter.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 5:06 PM  

You betcha Sarah Palin can see New York Values from her house, dontcha know?

Blogger RobertT January 19, 2016 5:08 PM  

Kudos to 6. Cruz' establishment bonafides are as solid gold as Palin's reputation among Iowa evangelicals.

Anonymous WillBest January 19, 2016 5:09 PM  

Wonder if SNL were produce something genuinely funny with this, or just something leftist will be required to think is funny if they want to properly signal their moral superiority.

Sarah Palin strikes most people as the kind of woman you would like as your grandmother, but for the love of all that is golden in Trump's tower, not President!

Considering Bristol gives one of the lesser Kardashians a run for their money, this seems unlikely.

Should net her at least an Ambassadorship if not a lesser cabinet position.

Blogger Gapeseed January 19, 2016 5:13 PM  

Horseshit. They don't like him, but they own him. He's married and in debt to Goldman Sachs. He's a total non-starter.

Maybe so, and obviously, any connection to Vampire Squid is disconcerting. On the other hand, Cruz's rhetoric has boxed him in somewhat (particularly on future bailouts), his wife is on leave from GS, and the total amount of debt is somewhere between $50,000 and $100,000.

Goldman got themselves a bargain if that's the going price for a sitting Senator and serious Presidential contender.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-wall-street-loan-senate-bid-2012.html?_r=0

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 5:16 PM  

Should net her at least an Ambassadorship if not a lesser cabinet position.

She'd make a fine ambassador to Russia

Anonymous TLM January 19, 2016 5:17 PM  

As someone that has a lot of windshield time during the day, it's amazing how the GOPe & AMcuckradio are hard-selling Cruz. Trump must really be a legitimate threat to them since the idea of the GOP going all in on a Goldman Sachs Canadian faggot with a jew nose is about as desperate as the Mormon cuck they ran in 2012. Don't much care for Palin, but she likely deliver some deep shivs to the GOPe. Paybacks a bitch.

Blogger Salt January 19, 2016 5:18 PM  

I've been watching elections since 1968. First voted in 1972 (last voted '92). I've never seen an election quite like this one. Never had a candidate running quite like Trump. Not even Reagan was like Trump, and we're not in Jimmy Carter's malaise either. It's worse.

What's interesting me more than Trump and the establishment Rs is Hillary. The level of her incompetence is astounding and the odds of her being actually indicted are real. Sanders is a socialist joke.

People are talking of a Republican brokered convention. I'm actually contemplating watching Biden get drafted.

2016 rocks.

Blogger Mr. Bee January 19, 2016 5:24 PM  

Palin for VP. Assassination insurance par excellence!

Anonymous Anonymous January 19, 2016 5:29 PM  

Mr. Bee -

Now that, was funny! (Snorted my beer on that!)

Pax - jb

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 5:33 PM  

It's not just the GOPe. I realized back when she burst on the scene that frankly, she's not all that bright. This wasn't Tina Fay, she wasn't sandbagged, she threw a pick six.
She's also tarnished (of course) by her association with John ''nuke everything that isn't Mexico or Israel'' McCrazy.
Post-Governorship she (and her family) come off as someone obsessed with being a celebrity.
Not to mention she comes off as someone who fully supports the feminist agenda other than abortion.
Will she help Trump? Some, at least she's lending her name and celebrity to him rather than someone else.

Anonymous WillBest January 19, 2016 5:35 PM  

@13 I have been saying for a month now, if you forced me to bet on the DNC nominee, I would put it on Biden.

Blogger Sevron January 19, 2016 5:46 PM  

I don't see why Cruz can't have some times to the elite and still be hated by the majority of them. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

Anonymous 348 January 19, 2016 5:51 PM  

I don't watch a lot of tv. Is Cruz even still in this thing? Seriously, doesn't Trump have the nomination sewed up?

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 19, 2016 5:55 PM  

Didn't she say that she could see Biden's ,fired for cocaine snorting, son being given control of the Ukraine's petrol from her house? If Biden gets drafted I might be tempted to show up at one of his rallies with a rainbow feather boa and a sign that says "Biden's good son died after seeing pics of me with his coke whore brother"

Cruz also has significant problems with the establishment

Cruz's GoldManSacks wife a player in making a north American EU. Building a North American Community Task Force
http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102

Blogger haus frau January 19, 2016 5:59 PM  

"Considering Bristol gives one of the lesser Kardashians a run for their money, this seems unlikely."

At least her bastards are white.

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 6:00 PM  

@19. 348:
Is Cruz even still in this thing?
Oh yes, a solid #2.
And as someone else noted, talk radio is starting to push Cruz as the anti-Trump because he, Rubio and Carson (who's stock is dropping) are the only ones still polling in double digits.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 6:01 PM  

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/266244-watch-paul-campaign-releases-cartoon-audit-the-ted

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 6:05 PM  

@21. haus frau:
At least her bastards are white.
Not for lack of trying.

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 6:10 PM  

LIVE Stream: Sarah Palin Joins Donald Trump In Campaign Rally in Ames, IOWA Jan.19th 2016

Blogger JCclimber January 19, 2016 6:17 PM  

A friend here in the ultra liberal San Francisco area ponders at length on Facebook about how he is questioning how tough Hitlery may be on the big corporate banks, and how he is becoming more attracted to Bernie.

Since I spend about 15 minutes every 2 weeks on facebook these days, mostly to manage some social event publicity items, I no longer bother to troll these types of things.

But for those of you who live in more sane areas of Amerika, the denial of reality is very, very strong with SJW liberals.

This friend only survived my purge of SJWs because he didn't turn his profile picture rainbow last year to celebrate the Supreme Court victory.

I unfriended over 20 people. I don't miss seeing their posts or hearing their opinions, at all.

Blogger Keith Glass January 19, 2016 6:22 PM  

Carson just dropped out, excuse me, "suspended his campaign"

The Donald, Ted, and Marco are the last men standing. And Marco is likely dead after the SEC Primary. . .

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 6:22 PM  

@26. JCclimber
>2016
>using faceberg

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 6:23 PM  

Palin would make a great energy secretary.

@24
If you take anything said by Joe McGinniss at face value, you're a fool. He has such a hate-on for Palin that he has thoroughly discredited himself. His MO is to start rumors (like the one you cite) amongst the "any lie about Palin is fine as long as it's scandalous" crowd in Alaska, and then report the rumor as truth. And then the mainstream media reports the the report without endorsing it, and suddenly Everyone Knows that Sara Palin is a crack whore.

Honest to God, did you turn your brain off this morning, or does it go into auto-shutdown when Palin is mentioned?

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 6:25 PM  

@27. Keith Glass:
Carson just dropped out, excuse me, "suspended his campaign"
Temporarily for now.

Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 6:26 PM  

The recent exposure of the Russert "New York values" interview certainly seems to have Trump and his most emotionally invested supporters scrambling.
I don't know that a Palin endorsement is an effective antidote for that poison, especially when it has that negotiated, art-of-the-deal feel.

Blogger Timmy3 January 19, 2016 6:28 PM  

I wonder how big of deal this is. I still question Trump's conservatism. Not much there except for immigration. His attack on Cruz doesn't seem so smart, more desperate. If Cruz owes Goldman Sachs, we can say Trump owes New York for his livelihood is all about New York.

Anonymous WillBest January 19, 2016 6:30 PM  

Seems more like Carson is just cancelling his events for a couple days while he pays his respects to somebody seriously injured while aiding him in his election.

I am sure he is doing it out of genuine concern, but quite frankly, it is better PR than he would have got at whatever events he was planning on doing.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 6:31 PM  

If Cruz owes Goldman Sachs, we can say Trump owes New York for his livelihood is all about New York.

But "New York" is not a single entity that can call the loan.

Blogger praetorian January 19, 2016 6:33 PM  


> 2016
> using faceberg


> using greentext on voxday
> making me kek this hard and just carrying on like nothing happened

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 6:34 PM  

Here he comes

Blogger kennymac January 19, 2016 6:35 PM  

@24 you need to do better than that dude. Are you really stupid enough to believe that crap? Or does the thought of Palin make you turn your brain off?

Anonymous Red Comet January 19, 2016 6:36 PM  

Joe McGinniss was that pervy journo that rented a house next to Palin to better allow "research" for his book. Recommend triple checking any claim he makes.

Blogger Elocutioner January 19, 2016 6:36 PM  

"The recent exposure of the Russert "New York values" interview certainly seems to have Trump and his most emotionally invested supporters scrambling. "

If you say so, champ. Who gives a crap about it? A bunch of media cucks hating on Trump and spergy Cruz supporters. It's dead and buried. Next time bring kryptonite.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 6:37 PM  

What's funny is watching Steve Schmidt spin and spin and spin and try to get a position with the Trump campaign.

No takers. I wonder why not?

Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 6:42 PM  

* "New York CITY values"

Regarding my previous comment in the interest of accuracy to Cruz's quoted statement and fairness to New York residents living outside of the Metropolitan area.

Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 6:47 PM  

As I said, the level of scrambling speaks for itself.

Anonymous Slowpoke January 19, 2016 6:50 PM  

Apparently Kudlow was saying on CNBC that the Democrats will draft Biden. He picked Trump to win the Republican nomination and said Trump would beat Berny in a 49 state landslide. Take with a saltlick I saw the quotes on another message board and have no first hand of this and will have to see if I can find YouTube of it later, but that tells you what the conventional wisdom is going too. I expect that the dems wouldn't mind losing to Jeb! but feel that have to beat a Trump.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 6:51 PM  

hmm, the accusation is that Sarah Palin, while a newly-minted sports journalist, and before she was married, fucked a Black basketball player.

So what? Literally who fucking cares? Were you under the mistaken impression that female sports journalists aren't in it to meet hot athletic Alpha men?

Blogger VD January 19, 2016 6:53 PM  

I still question Trump's conservatism. Not much there except for immigration. His attack on Cruz doesn't seem so smart, more desperate.

Conservatism is dead. It's unprincipled defeatism. Immigration is one of only three issues that matter.

And if you think Trump is "desperate" when he's kicking ass in the polls, well, no one is that stupid. You're just dishonest.

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 6:57 PM  

@27. Keith Glass:
Carson just dropped out, excuse me, "suspended his campaign"


Herman Caine and his PAC donors are reconsidering their options.

Blogger David Adams January 19, 2016 6:57 PM  

Talking about Vibrancy.


"The shocking moment two journalists are attacked by migrants armed with pepper spray and a knife in the Calais Jungle

Dutch filmmaker Maaike Engels was making documentary in Calais Jungle
She was filming when her colleague Teun Voeten was attacked by migrants
Three young men armed with knife and pepper spray tried to steal camera
Pair saved when other migrants came to their rescue and ran attackers off"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3407270/Shocking-moment-journalist-attacked-migrants-Calais-Jungle.html

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 7:00 PM  

YIKES! That voice, I forgot about that

Blogger Matamoros January 19, 2016 7:03 PM  

@13 Well, remember that Trump predicted that he'd be running against Biden.

I think they are holding Biden off, so there isn't so much time to go after his idiocy before the primaries/election.

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 7:03 PM  

I'm just going to leave these here.

I'm sure they will change nobody's mind, .......

cause immigration is all the matters, immigration is all that matters, immigration is all that matters, ............

Trump "the Christian?"

Trump = Big Ethanol

Blogger Phillip George January 19, 2016 7:05 PM  

Vox, I'd highly recommend you read today's Mark Steyn column/ blog. A lot of it you could have written yourself. You and he might never be able to sit at the same table but your positions on a wide range of issues are in perfect agreement.

Lest We Forget was Rudyard Kipling accurately predicting the fall of the British Empire. From the Titanic to the Great War, I don't think anyone could have foreseen how fast the autumn leaf would fall.

Enoch Powell was destroyed in much the same way Sarah Palin was, in much the same way Australia's Pauline Hanson was. Rudyard Kipling to Pauline Hansen represent a big margin of difference in rungs on an intellectual ladder, but their common ground is wanting to preserve a bloody history in preference to none at all.

Remembering the God of our Fathers, and good and bad and ugly history is better than being given no option on it at all. Having it expunged from the record by writers of some other creed.

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 7:07 PM  

At least she ain't wearing that Israel flag pin

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 7:08 PM  

Watching this endorsement from Palin, I had forgotten how annoying that accent is especially with the pitch of her voice.

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 7:10 PM  

@ 50. a Christian First

Well, gee, Christian first, do you have a saint in mind to run, a holiest of holies?

Can you tell any of us here, including the scoffing atheists, who was the first, even the most recent saint to hold the presidency. Since there was nobody who was a saint under your demands, shouldn't we just hand the country back to Saint Queen Elizabeth?

Anonymous Wyrd January 19, 2016 7:11 PM  

Palin is on fire tonight. Her enthusiasm is very inspiring, unlike like the negative nancies currently posting.

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 7:13 PM  

Trump's getting uncomfortable with her yammering

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 7:14 PM  

Look at his face, it's like he's saying ''Oh please, just shut up''

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 7:15 PM  

Alright @50 Christian First,
Who is your candidate?
Ted "Israel First, in preference to Arab Christians" Cruz?
Marco "I'm a Catholic but I worship at a Baptist Church" Rubio?
Bernie "Christian Socialist" Sanders
Hillary "Socialism is just regular old Methodism" Clinton

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 7:16 PM  

@53. SS

Watching this endorsement from Palin, I had forgotten how annoying that accent is especially with the pitch of her voice.

Is this the level of disqualifying you all are sinking to: your opinion of her is based on misquotes, a comedienne's impersonation routine, and now her accent; as though you have the golden throat of the gods.

Let's face it: there is not a candidate on the Republican side who you won't disqualify for the most petty of reasons.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 19, 2016 7:16 PM  

The recent exposure of the Russert "New York values" interview certainly seems to have Trump and his most emotionally invested supporters

Next you are going to tell us that the lead in Flint's water due to the almost all black city council decision to use contaminated water from the Flint river instead of buying clean water from the Detroit water outfit is something republicans should virtue signal over, like when the 2 levies fixed by minority contractors broke in Katrina. Oh Wait HilLIARy is doing that now.

OT: http://twitchy.com/2016/01/18/black-queer-liberation-collective-takes-credit-for-blocking-bay-bridge/
"And yes, they did compare their action to the Selma march and presented a list of demands, the first of which is “the immediate divestment of city funds for policing and investment in sustainable"

Do those idiots know what would happen if the cops did less policing? For those of us that don’t have sex with drunk underage boys down by the railroad tracks, cops are our friends.

Blogger Timmy3 January 19, 2016 7:19 PM  

"And if you think Trump is "desperate" when he's kicking ass in the polls, well, no one is that stupid. You're just dishonest."

He is definitely fighting to win Iowa. That's the first skirmish. Barely even with Cruz in the polls (1 point ahead) so we know that's the way he will try hard to put him away. He is saying and doing whatever he can. Trump is ahead in the polls nationally, but that means little when the polls are showing Sanders is beating Trump on a head to head.

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 7:20 PM  

@59
Please read more into my comment that I did not say. Gamma sperg.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 7:21 PM  

@50

So when has this writer Matt Walsh spent time with Trump and his family to call him a "Godless man"?

So much bias with some of these writers that it's just getting ridiculous. You will be surprised to know the same Matt Walsh is hammering Sarah Palin today too. But he loved Palin when she was nice to Cruz.

This writer is so transparent in his efforts that he's willing to label a man "Godless" without one shred of proof. Maybe he should try reading The Bible again. Religious posers really suck.


Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.

Matthew 7:1 Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 19, 2016 7:22 PM  

Interesting development. This helps Trump's credibility as a conservative.

Though I maintain that Palin's waffling in the summer of 2011 won Romney the nomination.

Anonymous Wyrd January 19, 2016 7:23 PM  

...but that means little when the polls are showing Sanders is beating Trump on a head to head.

Haha, as if The Donald could be defeated by some wrinkly commie who lets himself be shut down by two dindu-nuffin bitches during his own speech.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 7:24 PM  

Trump is ahead in the polls nationally, but that means little when the polls are showing Sanders is beating Trump on a head to head.

The only polls that matter are the ones trump is winning.

Anonymous Dikaios Rik January 19, 2016 7:24 PM  

...and Sarah Palin's son has just been arrested. Not 5 minutes after Sarah took the stage. Interesting timing.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/689602443462758401

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 7:25 PM  

Maybe he should try reading The Bible again. Religious posers really suck.

Maybe you should try reading those verses in context and stop being a religious poser.

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 7:25 PM  

Hopefully Trump will not let her ramble on like that again.
Even he was getting uncomfortable with it.

Blogger Jourdan January 19, 2016 7:28 PM  

@51 - Regarding Steyn, I think there is no question he is with us, while trying to maintain viable with his own business as a writer. He's paid a pretty high price for his views, when you consider that 10 years ago his columns were in the Daily Telegraph, the Spectator (the one that matters), National Review, National Post, etc.

He mentioned as an aside the other day that (and I paraphrase, but it was on his website last week) "once you realize the demographic issue, it haunts you, even to the point of having nightmares about it, because it's everything."

I don't think one can say that and not be with us.

Blogger Jourdan January 19, 2016 7:29 PM  

I, for one, look forward to Colonel Sanders taking the White House. I believe he can finally bring a period of racial healing to his divided nation, one finger-lickin' bucket at a time.

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 7:31 PM  

@71 if he wins, does the secret recipe become public domain?

Anonymous A Reader January 19, 2016 7:31 PM  

Sarah Palin would have been the best Republican candidate.


Her views:
Keep taxes down and govt regulation down
Pro-Gun rights
Enforcement of the immigration laws
Doesn't want the US to fight in conflicts in the Middle East. She put it well: "Let Allah Sort it Out."

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 7:35 PM  

I figured my links would cause butt hurt.

Sometimes you all are incapable of thinking clearly.

A discussion of Trump and Palin is not a discussion of the qualifications or lack of them of any other candidate. It's just about Trump. Period.

Oh, and I wonder. Do you think Trump could explain the Gospel, without doing a google search?

Cause without knowing and understanding the Gospel,
Trump is by definition, NOT A CHRISTIAN.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 19, 2016 7:35 PM  

The question I have is, will Palin use her perky girly voice again or will she sound like a serious woman this time. The VP candidate Palin and the post election Palin sound like 2 different women.
(Never let campaign insiders tell you how to look and talk)

Anonymous Gibson J 185 January 19, 2016 7:36 PM  

some wrinkly commie who lets himself be shut down by two dindu-nuffin bitches during his own speech.

True 'nuff. But you wouldn't even know a candidates name if he/she/it weren't acceptable or workable for or already sponsored by the Bankstas - to include da Donald.
Some say that truth revealed will destroy America. If not destroyed, then your Children lose.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 7:38 PM  

@68 Josh

Why don't you instead explain to me how those don't apply to Walsh's comments on Trump being a "Godless man"?

And much like Walsh on Trump, you know nothing about my Religious beliefs to comment on them.

Blogger Sam Lively January 19, 2016 7:40 PM  

@70
Steyn enjoys a warm relationship with Fox News and much of the conservative commentariat, so he doesn't like to breathe fire, but you are absolutely right on him getting the primacy of demographics and immigration.

He's one of the very few guys with access to mainstream conservatism that instinctively sided with Trump when the Trump/Cruz war inevitably broke out.

Blogger Nick S January 19, 2016 7:44 PM  

Well that was enthusiastic. After being captured by the gravitational pull of the alpha, she's obviously crossed the event horizon. No turning back for her.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 7:47 PM  

Oh, and I wonder. Do you think Trump could explain the Gospel, without doing a google search?

Would that be the Gospel of two Corinthians?

Blogger Salt January 19, 2016 7:47 PM  

OT -

Just saw that SCOTUS is going to hear a challenge to Obama's use of executive action in shielding immigrants. What's interesting is, SCOTUS expanded the question, asking also to be briefed as to whether Obama failed in upholding the law(s) as to immigration.

Blogger Jon M January 19, 2016 7:48 PM  

I hear you, Salt. Heard Hilary dwscribed as this cycle's Rmoney in that she has all the bona fides, establishment cred, and big money, but comes off as utterly fake and jivey. The thought occurred to me thst, like Romney, she also can't stop stepping on her own dick.

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 7:49 PM  

@ 74. a Christian First

I figured my links would cause butt hurt.

Demanding candidates be "just so" Christians or they are disqualified is village idiocy, not serious argument. Again, I ask you: can you name one president who was a saint meeting all biblical requirements for Christian holiness as you demand? If not, does that mean the the United States (revolution and Constitution) was really a Satanic imposition on the good subject of King George III?

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 7:50 PM  

Why don't you instead explain to me how those don't apply to Walsh's comments on Trump being a "Godless man"?

Well, in context they're not about "not judging" but judging rightly.

And much like Walsh on Trump, you know nothing about my Religious beliefs to comment on them.


Pattern recognition. We've seen a lot of atheists come in guns blazing with those verses about "not judging." Hence my comment about religious posers.

Blogger Sam Lively January 19, 2016 7:50 PM  

The great thing about Trump vs. Cruz is it's exposes the difference between ideology and loyalty.

I would have been with Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and the rest of these young conservatives gravitating for Cruz if it wasn't for the realization (aided by Vox reading of course) that I like America as it was more than America as it supposedly should be.

Realizing that this is not a battle of ideas but a battle of people makes Trump the only choice, even if he's not a great one. Because the one thing I do buy about Trump is that he's fantastically loyal to Americans.

That's why the New York values tiff was so illuminating. Conservative defenders of Cruz leapt at the chance to define New York values as liberal values and to impose their ideological view above territorial loyalty.

Anonymous Til January 19, 2016 7:52 PM  

Polls in July put Trump at 5%! I mean, come on guys, he can't win!

'General Election' polls at this stage, especially for a master persuader like Trump, are WORTHLESS.

If it's Trump vs. Sanders, he will beat him over the head with BLM and a million more things so hard and often that you'll have trouble finding anything left of him by November.

We have 10 months. Time works in favor of Trump. Period.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 7:52 PM  

That's why the New York values tiff was so illuminating. Conservative defenders of Cruz leapt at the chance to define New York values as liberal values and to impose their ideological view above territorial loyalty.

That was the most effective attack against trump so far. Note how he pulled a 9/11 and demanded an apology.

Blogger automatthew January 19, 2016 7:54 PM  

Two Corinthians walk into a bar ...

Anonymous Cyclone Bob January 19, 2016 7:54 PM  

Fuck the NYtimes. "Ms. Palin said ... "

Lesbians and feminists are 'Mizz'. Sarah Palin has a husband, and is a Mrs.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 7:55 PM  

Two Corinthians walk into a bar ...

Hey waitaminute...

Anonymous Sam the Man January 19, 2016 7:56 PM  

I like to read Free Republic.

The entire Trump vs. Cruz debate on that site has gone crazy. The Cruz people attacking Trump and the Trump folks attacking Cruz. Very hot and insulting.

Fact is for this working chap the election comes down to Four issues:

Immigration: trump is the one who stated he would eject all illegals, Cruz only followed after he saw it was popular. if you look at Cruz's web site he says nothing about it, I doubt he is serious. Hopefully trump is.

Fair trade: Again Trump has hit the nail on the head. China is trying to buy up and move all the high tech electronic industry to China, paying for it with the proceeds from selling us plastic junk. Once lost we will not be able to resurrect such industry. the future of our well being depends on having some innovative industry here.

Also the only trade partner that is really out of balance with us is China. Fix the 500 billion trade deficit and move a few million value added jobs back to the US of A, will help the working class more than any give away program.

Cruz is a free trader, in fact his wife is part of the banker association that wants to eliminate any ability of folks in the US of A to leverage their job skills for pay, preferring a work where all salaries are fixed by the lowest global rate. No thanks...

Gun Control: Cruz and Trump are virtually identical with one difference: Trump wants to extend the equal protection clause to firearm carry permits. If he succeeds that might well be the lever by which the states that have outlawed certain self loading arms and magazines have those bans shoved down their throats. After all if the equal protection clause is extended to guns like it was with gay marriage, well a lot of New Yorkers will soon be able to buy AR-15 rifles like the folks in PA. On Guns Trump is playing offense and Cruz is defense.

Supreme Court Justices: Here Cruz seems superior, if I believe the folks that say he is the true strict constructionist. Hopefully he would succeed where Nixon, Regan, Bush 1 and Bush II failed. Trump, one has no indication who he would appoint and it might be a disaster, I see no guidance on his web site or in any of his prognostications. It is kind of worrisome.

That said Trump has demonstrated he fights. I would kind of like to see a conflict between Trump and the supreme court, where they hand down a bad decision and he fights it, AKA Andrew Jackson like, rather than the typical well-bred republican response to give up.

As an example: proposition 187 was passed by Ca in 1994 and would have slowed down or stopped the immigration crisis by denying welfare limits, education and pretty much every other advantage the Mexicans could achieve by being in CA illegally. The supreme court ruled it unconstitutional, and they will likely do so if Trump or any president attempts to ship out illegals. Trump is the only one who might say: :the court has ruled now let them enforce it". Cruz will not.

Trump is a big risk, his real intnetions a total unknown. But when you are rapidly retreating and losing the battle you sometimes must stake your chances on a unpredictable attack, not just play defense that ensures a loss 8 years down the road. Trump is such a chance, a long shot for sure, but the best option we have.

Blogger automatthew January 19, 2016 7:58 PM  

Two Corinthians walk into a moloko bar ...

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 8:00 PM  

@84 Josh

"Well, in context they're not about "not judging" but judging rightly."

Thanks for making my point on Walsh's unresearched hack job on Trump.

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 8:01 PM  

Looks like the Trump loyalists missed the point of Walsh's piece. Yes, Trump is an businessman who has made billions. But can any of you tell us, what his moral standards are? Does he base his personal ethic on a Biblical standard, a personal standard, or is he like so many nihilists who have not moral anchor and do "what ever seems right in his own eyes"?

If Trump's personal morality is not based on a Judeo-Christian ethic, what is is based upon?

Anonymous Til January 19, 2016 8:06 PM  

"But can any of you tell us, what his moral standards are? Does he base his personal ethic on a Biblical standard, a personal standard, or is he like so many nihilists who have not moral anchor and do "what ever seems right in his own eyes"?"

His employees seem to all love him.

Once he told his limo driver to stop and got out to confront a man beating another man with a bat, and didn't seek to gain any publicity from it afterwards.

He seems to be known by those who know him as a kind, likable person.

The bigger question is, what can you point to that shows that he's a Secret Hitler or whatever you clearly believe?

Blogger Sam Lively January 19, 2016 8:06 PM  

@87

You are still looking at this from a purely ideological lens. Trump looks bad to you (I assume) because you ascribe NY values an ideological angle (social liberalism) like Cruz and Trump failed to repudiate those ideas.

But I disagree strongly that he resorted to political correctness. Identity politics is not the exclusive realm of PC. Trump was playing a territorial card: he identified with the New York resident not New York politics. He took the assault personally on behalf of his people - as a rich white dude. He transformed a political attack into a personal attack because that's how he views the world.

You've got to check out Frum's latest for the Atlantic.

Conservatives have been going pure ideology as a way to combat charges of racism for so long that they've lost hold of earthy, non-ideological appeals to American identity.

Not a racially explicit appeal either. Trump is working along class and geographic lines here - it's whites and blacks and people who have been here for generations vs. the invaders. Ideology matters far less than hometown to him.

That's why Cruz's direct Cuban/Canadian roots are such a big deal to him.

It's strange that he's being accused of political opportunism and cynicism when he's just doubling down on the core elements of his worldview.

Anonymous Til January 19, 2016 8:08 PM  

Oh, and nihilists don't tend to raise children that seem to be as high quality as his.

The picture I get from his track record is that his ego is based off of how well he takes care of what he's in charge of.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 8:08 PM  

@85 Sam Lively

"Because the one thing I do buy about Trump is that he's fantastically loyal to Americans."


And this is the key as I've stated before here.

Trump is in the business of American's liking him. It's in his business ventures. It's who he is. This is why he has such a good pulse on the country and is willing to say what the majority of the people think. Politics and politicians be dammed. Trump has no fear of rocking their boat.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 19, 2016 8:10 PM  

but that means little when the polls are showing Sanders is beating Trump on a head to head.

Trump will just have all his ads being the video of Cucked Bernie being knocked back by 2 feral sows at what Bernie supporters said was a 10,000 person crowd that no one did anything to stop. Hell I might go to a sanders rally with my rainbow feather boa that has paracord strands in it,(maybe loop it around him to drag him off) bitch slap him off the podium & tell the crowd we need multiple brands of deodorant so I can tell my boyfriends apart in the dark.

Blogger Phillip George January 19, 2016 8:10 PM  

@74, the First Christian to post here, I find this really funny. Us butt hurtians only want to once visit your youtube of you walking on water. That's all.
Our fig leaves are all fallen. Us butt naked are waiting on you water walkers to usher in the new triumphant era. Come on now. My mouse is ready to click on your link.
If not walking on water then merely a single withered hand made straight. Not much to ask. Till then the first canonized President will do. President Saint Trump could then be the first if only he would listen to you.

Anonymous Til January 19, 2016 8:13 PM  

The cucks' desperate salami slicing is pretty hilarious to watch.

Trump has found the kryptonite for salami slicing: American patriotism.

Deal with it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 8:13 PM  

@74 a Christian First
I figured my links would cause butt hurt.
really? Where? Scanners detect no butthurt

Sometimes you all are incapable of thinking clearly.
Sometimes people who think that are incapable of speaking coherently

A discussion of Trump and Palin is not a discussion of the qualifications or lack of them of any other candidate. It's just about Trump. Period.
You'd like that, but this is not a purely hypothetical discussion. We are talking about an election, in which we have a limited field of choices. We cannot choose whom we would most like for president. I'd be a Santorum voter, but what's the point in that? So ruling out Trump by necessity involves choosing a different player.
Again I ask, Who do you support?

Oh, and I wonder. Do you think Trump could explain the Gospel, without doing a google search? Cause without knowing and understanding the Gospel, Trump is by definition, NOT A CHRISTIAN.
Which has exactly what to do with the Presidency? Frankly, the last President who could have qualified by that criterion was Jimmay Cartah. He was such a smashing success, we are all eager to repeat his presidency. And since it's quite likely you would disqualify my Christianity as well, I find no reason to accept your standard of judgement.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 8:21 PM  

Trump has found the kryptonite for salami slicing: American patriotism.

Correction: Yankee Patriotism.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 8:27 PM  

@94

"Looks like the Trump loyalists missed the point of Walsh's piece. Yes, Trump is an businessman who has made billions. But can any of you tell us, what his moral standards are?"

Why don't you look to his children and family. You don't see Trump's wife or kids in trouble. Or possibly suicidal sitting on the side of a highway with their head in hands. Do you?

http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/14138-cops-found-ted-cruzs-wife-on-roadside-thought-she-was-a-danger-to-herself

Maybe the Religion card isn't working so good for Cruz and his wife? Maybe playing too many hands (Goldman Sachs) is too much for them? I don't know I'm just spit ballin' here?

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 8:30 PM  

Nobody has commented on Trump's obvious pander to the Ethanol Lobby today.

So much for principle. Trump thinks he needs to pander to Iowa corn growers to win, so suddenly he's all in favor of the ethanol mandate, just like he is suddenly pro-life and anti-immigration.

And he'll be strong on every other issue you support, until he can make a better deal.

"Art of the deal", don't you know?

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 8:32 PM  

@74 Christian First

Oh, and I wonder. Do you think Trump could explain the Gospel, without doing a google search? 

Cause without knowing and understanding the Gospel,
Trump is by definition, NOT A CHRISTIAN.


Is there a secret Christian gang that I missed him not flashing? I thought the good news was simple enough for a child.

Most folks here have already nailed it; look at his fruits. Looks like he has a solid family to me. Somewhat disturbed by all the casino stuff. That is an easy business to get compromised in. His multiple wives do make him unfit to be a church leader. What else have you got to show as rotten fruit?

Blogger YIH January 19, 2016 8:33 PM  

Cruz cucks.

Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 8:33 PM  

I'm fairly certain Ronald Reagan served after Jimmy Carter.

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 8:33 PM  

His children and family or ex-wives?

His adulterous behavior, or his loving marriages?

Yeah, that'll work. Let's look at his personal life. If you want?

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 8:37 PM  

@105 Christian First

What was the Biblical position on corn subsidies again? Where are you going with those goal posts?

You still haven't pointed to the last saint we've had as President. Look out someone might call you out on the blog rules.

Blogger Sevron January 19, 2016 8:43 PM  

No no, he's doing a fine job looking like a retarding his own, I say let him run with it.

Blogger JCclimber January 19, 2016 8:43 PM  

This is weird. Just realized, from this thread, that I know Mrs. Cruz's family, and probably met her many years ago when she was a child.

I'm now very, very curious how she came to be working for Goldman Sachs, considering the very hostile view that our church has of all globalist entities.

One thing is certain, she is much better looking than the other wives, with the exception of Mrs. Trump.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 8:45 PM  

@109 a Christian First

Sweet! Some church has finally started excommunicating people for adultry. It's about time.

Oh, no they haven't. How can they let all these sinners call themselves Christians?

I wish I had the "detect Christian from afar" superpower like you do Christian First.

Blogger Eric Wilson January 19, 2016 8:46 PM  

Josh, I don't get your antipathy towards Trump. Is it because he lasted past September or October?

Anonymous Sam the Man January 19, 2016 8:46 PM  

One can understand the folks that see Cruz as smarter and more wholesome, but it comes down to something like the civil war.

Burnside, Meade and Porter were more gentlemanly officers. But Grant was a fighter who won.

Like the Union the last 3 republican presidents have been gentlemen who would not fight to reverse the course we are on. Trump shows every sign of being a fighter. Yes he is a risk, but some pretty big names seem to feel he is worth that risk (such as todays endorsements)

Cruz may be an honorable man, but his record in the senate has been all losses. He has not won anything or moved anything in the right direction.

Like Grant, we need a fighter, else all is lost.

Cruz supporters must address that question: what makes you think he will be effective? before you answer is record as a lawyer, the skills that let him argue cases before the courts may not be the skills needed to win battles.

Anonymous Wyrd January 19, 2016 8:47 PM  

What was the Biblical position on corn subsidies again?

Carson will offer government subsidies for the latest pyramid technology so Iowa farmers can store their corn more effectively.

Blogger Phillip George January 19, 2016 8:48 PM  

or why doesn't "a Christian first" simply nominate? Perhaps he was born in Kenya and has the same sense of entitlement as any Kenyan to stand? A quick name change and some expunged academic records, some photo shopped certificates and you could challenge them all.

But you'll need to be able to write a speech or two. How about "yes we still can". Give some hope to Detroit.

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 8:49 PM  

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Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 8:50 PM  

https://youtu.be/KHAHKGP10yc

How about rotten and low hanging?

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 8:57 PM  

If only we could all be as authentic and perfect as the First Christians candidate: https://youtu.be/KHAHKGP10yc

Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 8:57 PM  

We are currently witnessing a fight as it unfolds. It appears that one of the combatants, the favorite, has been bloodied. Who will come out on top? As with all fights, time will tell.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 9:01 PM  

I don't think Trump has done himself any favors by recruiting Palin.

I liked her too when she first showed up eight years ago. For a brief moment it looked like we would be spared an Obama Presidency.

However she's brand-damaged at this point. The Palin family drama has given her the air of a reality show star rather than a politician.

And the reality show thing is something Trump needs to get away from now that the primaries are here.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 9:02 PM  

@119.  Thomas Howard

How about rotten and low hanging?

Thomas Howard goes for the "partial birth abortion" shot (actually a very good one). See, a Christian First this is how it is done.

Buuuut, they still aren't even withholding Communion for taking part in one. Let alone excommunicating anyone over the..."well I'm a New Yorker...and I understand someone from elsewhere might thing different" sort of opinion.

Still no evidence of Satan worship yet.

Blogger VD January 19, 2016 9:10 PM  

If Trump's personal morality is not based on a Judeo-Christian ethic, what is is based upon?

There is no "Judeo-Christian ethic". There is Judaism. And there is Christianity. To which do you subscribe?

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 9:11 PM  

@122.  Cataline Sergius

I don't think Trump has done himself any favors by recruiting Palin.

Agreed on all counts. Especially the family drama.

Blogger Thomas Howard January 19, 2016 9:12 PM  

Hmm... Am I to understand that goalposts have been moved to accommodate evidence of Satan worship as our standard of concern?
Are support for (even tacitly) infanticide and homosexual marriage no longer sufficient to call into question one's commitment to the gospels?

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 9:14 PM  

@ 115. Sam the Man
You did that on purpose, didn't you. Now Josh/Nate will not be able to sleep tonight without pounding out a dozen rebuttals each. Sheesh!

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 9:18 PM  

Ahhhh, don't cross the streams! Palin is a Boomer! 1964 bitches.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 19, 2016 9:23 PM  

" I unfriended over 20 people. I don't miss seeing their posts or hearing their opinions, at all"
Life is too short to waste it reading SJW crappery, JC.
@ 50
Yeah, a lot of people pay attention to Beck's website.
You need a good smackin' on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and put outside.

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 9:24 PM  

So You Want That FRAUD Cruz, Eh?
So, Christian First here is your only other choice: what does the bible say such frauds and are why you supporting Cruz?

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 9:27 PM  

@126.  Thomas Howard

Hmm... Am I to understand that goalposts have been moved to accommodate evidence of Satan worship as our standard of concern?

Perhaps I let my rhetorical flourishes get out of hand at 'Satan'.

Are support for (even tacitly) infanticide and homosexual marriage no longer sufficient to call into question one's commitment to the gospels?

Not even Cruz is suggesting banning it everywhere in the US; just devolving it to the states. Which is pretty much what Trump said as well. I didn't hear a full-throated push for Baal worship. He also predicated the whole thing with the fact he hadn't really thought about it.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 19, 2016 9:35 PM  

@74 a Christian First
"I figured my links would cause butt hurt"
Is Beck a Christian ?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 9:42 PM  

@122 Cataline Sergius
I don't think Trump has done himself any favors by recruiting Palin.

There's a lot of folks out here in the hustings that will pay attention to her endorsement. I have to believe that it will play well in Iowa, certainly. And as obnoxious as the family drama is, for a lot of people, that just helps them to identify with her. Palin's endorsement still carries a lot of weight in White Working Class Christian circles.

Blogger haus frau January 19, 2016 9:46 PM  

A (pompous) Christian First:
"A discussion of Trump and Palin is not a discussion of the qualifications or lack of them of any other candidate. It's just about Trump. Period. "

This is outright retarded. Political races don't happen in a vacuum. It always matters who a given candidate is running against. I will take a a fake Christian who loves his country and wants to preserve its traditional culture any day over a passionate Christian who wants to keep the borders open. Walsh has stated he doesn't mind Rubio either. Walsh does not grasp the big picture, though he certainly thinks he does. He does not think strategically over the long run. Take Walsh's most important issue as an example. You could ban abortion completely right now but keep the borders open and within a few short years the third world socialist crowd would completely reverse this victory. So much for electing the perfect Christian president.

Anonymous farmer Tom January 19, 2016 9:47 PM  

@133, Not so much. Not playing well in Iowa at all.

I'd say the comments are running 5 to 1 against Palin and her endorsement of Trump.

Of course I only live here, so I'm sure everybody else knows better than me.

Blogger Sevron January 19, 2016 9:49 PM  

How have your other predictions worked out this election cycle? Honestly asking.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 9:51 PM  

@126 Thomas Howard

Are support for (even tacitly) infanticide and homosexual marriage no longer sufficient to call into question one's commitment to the gospels?

This question does allow me to segue into my personal monomania; Planned Parenthood.

I want to start a not-for-profit organisation that sells the organs of all PP employees, supporters, and clients on the dark web. I have a mission statement:
Bring together deserving organ donors with needy minority homeless.

Anonymous farmer Tom January 19, 2016 9:53 PM  

Carson has crashed and burned. What else did I say? Trump and Cruz? seems about like that was right.

Although, rumor is, that Trumps numbers are not near as good as the outside polling says.

We shall see.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 19, 2016 9:53 PM  

Trump has said his favorite Supreme Court justice is Clarence Thomas and that he would seek to appoint judges are conservative, love the Constitution and are top legal scholars/minds. He's also criticized Cruz heavily for supporting Justice Roberts nomination. So what more could you ask for? Answer, nothing.

Trump is not pandering on ethanol. Trump wants jobs and energy independence as core aspects of his campaign and he sees the long established ethanol industry as contributing towards that, certainly in the short to medium term.

Blogger FALPhil January 19, 2016 9:56 PM  

@60 Do those idiots know what would happen if the cops did less policing? For those of us that don’t have sex with drunk underage boys down by the railroad tracks, cops are our friends.

Please tell me you are not that stupid.

Anonymous farmer Tom January 19, 2016 9:57 PM  

I'm sure Vox has my predictions in the archives somewhere.

Let's wait 2 weeks till Feb 2nd and see how I did.

I'm not worried at all.

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 10:00 PM  

Oh, Christian First: Jesus Loves Trump

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 10:00 PM  

@135 farmer Tom
Not so much. Not playing well in Iowa at all. I'd say the comments are running 5 to 1 against Palin and her endorsement of Trump.
Comments aren't votes.

Blogger dienw January 19, 2016 10:01 PM  

Oh, Christian First: Jesus Loves Trump

Blogger Halifax Donair January 19, 2016 10:04 PM  

@16 Heh, I was briefly considering running for city council this spring get just to cause trouble... but since my answer would be "no, I don'the read or watch the lügenpresse, I talk to my neighbours" well...not quite sure they'really ready for me.

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 10:05 PM  

@139,

Trumps sister the judge, just like Thomas and Scalia

Blogger Elocutioner January 19, 2016 10:06 PM  

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Blogger Halifax Donair January 19, 2016 10:07 PM  

@26 I had 200 contacts, and abruptly left when the shadowbanning 'experiment' started.

Anonymous farmer Tom January 19, 2016 10:08 PM  

@143

You are right, comments are not votes.

And neither are people answering polls.

We'll see in 2 weeks.

Place your bets.

Blogger Andrew January 19, 2016 10:08 PM  

Shocking, Trump said some nice things about his sister.

Is his sister conservative, Clarence Thomas-esque? Because those are the types of judges he's said multiple times he would appoint.

Blogger Elocutioner January 19, 2016 10:09 PM  

I'm not voting for an American Pope, I'm voting for a murder weapon against the traitors inside the gate - the GOP establishment. The game is rigged for the oligarchs, it's not very smart to keep voting in their pawns.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 10:11 PM  

I don't think a Christian First wants to play anymore. Where did he go?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 19, 2016 10:11 PM  

135. farmer Tom
Thank you much for the ground report,FT.

Anonymous Kevin January 19, 2016 10:18 PM  

Never have so many smart people been so delusional about a candidate since - well I guess Obama. But at least Obama could win the general. Trump? Yuck. You guys were so easy to buy. What will you do if Hillary talks tough on immigration? How wilted the two liberal candidates of Clinton and Trimp apart.

Anonymous a Christian First January 19, 2016 10:19 PM  

@150, can't read?

His sister's views were described plainly enough in the link, maybe you missed that?

Blogger Harry Spitz January 19, 2016 10:20 PM  

Trump was a pro-abortion, gun controlling Democrat before he was a 'Republican.' He signed on to some moronic agreement to be 'bipartisan' if he won. He is apparently considering RINO Scott Brown for VP.
Trump is a billionaire carnival barker. People should be careful. The show he is promoting, probably differs significantly from the actual show in the tent.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 19, 2016 10:21 PM  

I know what his sister's views are and I know Trump knows. I also know that Trump has said repeatedly that he will appoint justices like Thomas who are conservative (like Thomas is conservative), brilliant and love the Constitution.

Blogger Billy January 19, 2016 10:25 PM  

"There is no "Judeo-Christian ethic". There is Judaism. And there is Christianity. To which do you subscribe?' Fuck I'm so tired of hearing about "our Judeo Christian" heritage.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 10:27 PM  

@155 & @156

Perhaps you haven't gotten the memo. It isn't about Trump's conservative bonofides; those markers have meant nothing in the past. Why should they now?

The Trumpening is all about stopping the invasion and returning America to the Americans. Security first, then fix the other problems.

Blogger Harry Spitz January 19, 2016 10:35 PM  

@159. Rusty Fife
Trump is the guy who wrote 'The Art of the Deal.' What you are hearing is his negotiating stance. I liked it, too.
But show Trump is promising may have little resemblance to the one actually in the tent.

Blogger Cui Pertinebit January 19, 2016 10:38 PM  

VD: "Horseshit. They don't like him, but they own him. He's married and in debt to Goldman Sachs. He's a total non-starter."

And let's not forget; if you will not stand with the people of Israel, Ted Cruz will not stand with you. He has said so, himself.

Fine, let him go stand on the dais with the Zionists and Goldman-Sachs, and tell us that he is anti-establishment. I always thought he sounded like a used car salesman trying to sell a lemon; saying all the right things, but in a cadence that felt too well-rehearsed. The more I learn about him, the more I understand why.

Anonymous The other robot January 19, 2016 10:50 PM  

I guess we just have to elect Trump to find out what he is gonna do.

Seems there is a precedent for that sort of thing.

At least he looks better than the Cucks who are running against him.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 11:01 PM  

But it's hell of a lot closer to the show I want to see than the Caitlyn Striptease in the GOPe tent.

Anonymous BGKB January 19, 2016 11:03 PM  

I figured my links would cause butt hurt really? Where? Scanners detect no butthurt

Only one guy gets so but hurt from looking at facts that he buys in bulk. "Max Temkin, creator of Cards Against Humanity, just purchased $1200 worth of personal lubricant"
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wtf-man-spends-1200-to-send-55-gallon-drum-of-personal-lubricant-to-oregon-militia_012016

What was the Biblical position on corn subsidies again? That you should have 7 years worth, but Mormons have dropped down to just one year.

140 Falphil less policing? cops are our friends...Please tell me you are not that stupid.

Obviously fleeing die verse city ahead of the Nigapocalypse we moved to somewhere with Mayberry Style demographics and policing. I have never had problems with cops other than one who was an ex boyfriend of my boyfriend at the time. In fact for a while, I interacted with cops almost every day I worked in one inner city hospital. I can understand that they don't want to investigate victim class on victim class crime because they get crap from both classes.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 19, 2016 11:11 PM  

155. a Christian First
Are you going to answer my question ?

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 19, 2016 11:16 PM  

I got plenty of popcorn kernels bu I better get sone more .. and some more coconut oil. Mmmm. And the show is not disappointing.

Blogger Elocutioner January 19, 2016 11:30 PM  

@156 "Trump was a pro-abortion, gun controlling Democrat before he was a 'Republican.'"

What? Holy shit, why didn't someone tell us he was a Democrat!?!? Only thing worse would be secretly pretending you're not a Canadian for 40+ years then lying about taking large campaign loans while railing against the megabanks who gave you a million dollars all so you could win a Senate seat while pretending to be a Constitutional Originalist then introducing TPA legislation that cedes Senate authority to the President and staging a show vote against it once enough votes are secured to ensure it passes so the skids are greased for future 'trade deals' like the disastrous Iran and TPP ones that further erodes the middle class! But, damn, was he really a Democrat?

Anonymous Gibson January 19, 2016 11:43 PM  

There is Judaism. And there is Christianity.

fucking A

Learn the Difference. And the Death.

Anonymous No January 19, 2016 11:50 PM  

A Billionaire Carnival Barker is ten zillion and 72 virgins in paradise better than:

Grandpa Stalin
Caitlyn Clinton
Snidley Cruzlash
Marco Whobio
The Simpsons Doctor
Captain Cuck

Or any of the other diseased psychopaths in the race. If Trump only crucifies half his enemies and selectively aborts half the Christian children in America while riding the Whore of Babylon through the Oval Office while broadcasting it on Nickelodeon...he will be the least damaging President since Cal Coolidge.

Anonymous Ain January 19, 2016 11:58 PM  

@72, It already is, though he didn't quite make it to eleven.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 12:00 AM  

I see we got a failure of communication here,@ Mr. a christian first, but we gonna straighten that out real quick -like.
Do you think Glen Beck is a Christian or not ?

Blogger FP January 20, 2016 12:06 AM  

Semi OT: GOPe rep Rick Wilson trolls the alt-right, calls them all single men masturbating to anime while on MSNBC.

https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/689622097765756928

Blogger Frank Brady January 20, 2016 12:11 AM  

None of this Kabuki Theater matters in the slightest. The "Two Party System" is a complete fraud, trotted out every four years to mollify us unsuspecting rubes. There is really only one political party and it is the Washington Party. It makes not the slightest difference whether the Democrat wing or the Republican wing of the Washington Party "wins" in 2016. The same criminal cartel will remain in power.

Anonymous Wyrd January 20, 2016 12:14 AM  

Semi OT: GOPe rep Rick Wilson trolls the alt-right, calls them all single men masturbating to anime while on MSNBC.

SJWs and cuckservatives always project.

Blogger Doom January 20, 2016 12:20 AM  

This actually says more for Mrs. Palin than it does anything else. If it helps Trump, cool. For me it means she has more brass than I might have thought. Good on her, and him. No, I just mean I was never sure about her. Can't be sure about vaginas, I don't care which side they say they are on. Which is why they shouldn't vote or be candidates. Still, the world is what it is at this point, if I still disapprove.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 12:20 AM  

It's not You, Me, the Dems or GOPee, but the Cocktail Party that runs DC.

Blogger CM January 20, 2016 12:33 AM  

Do you think Glen Beck is a Christian or not ?

I can NOT figure that out. He talks like a Christian (churchian brand, but Christ is King/Messiah/Son of God) but claims something else.

I didn't think Mormons believed in Trinity or Jesus' divinity. I'm going with GB just has no clue what he is.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 20, 2016 12:47 AM  

While many Mormons are fine people, they are not Christians. What's worse is that Beck left a real Christian Church to join the Mormons.

Blogger dh January 20, 2016 12:51 AM  

Mormon is an attractive proposition, especially for former addicts. It is a powerful "brand" of community merged into a really cosmically orientated faith system. It shares some of the theological tenets of Christianity, but is not fundamentally compatible.

That said, it's really hard for SJW's and some conservatives to square the fact that in groups or even one on one, mormons are just about the most decent, kindest, and most stable people you may ever meet. I have met a lot of mormons, and so far as I can tell, none suffer from the SJW problems of vast obesity, vanity, or general mental ill health. I'm not sure if it's the rigorous faith, the persecution complex, the focus on wealth and success, or something else, but all in all, there are a few very unpleasant mormons. Person for person, a good group of people.

It really galls SJW's when they desperately want to be able to call a religious person a hypocrite, but I've seen them try and fail numerous times with devout mormons.

Blogger Sherwood family January 20, 2016 1:02 AM  

Mormons are non-Trinitarian Christians. They accept the existence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost but understand the relationship differently than the way it is described or espoused in the Nicene or Athanasian creeds. Mormons accept the validity of the Bible as scripture but do not believe in the claims of sola scriptura in contrast to Protestants and do not accept Catholic/Orthodox claims to apostolic authority.

Blogger Sherwood family January 20, 2016 1:04 AM  

Mormons also believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ and accept Him as Lord and Savior.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 1:10 AM  

OK, mr. a christian first,
Since you like answering a question, (that's a big no-no here )
I'll ask you another: Why is trump ol' scratch ? Divorces ? Bidness ? And why is he different from say, San Glennie ?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 20, 2016 1:11 AM  

Snidley Cruzlash
Sir! I take umbrage at your accusation!
Like Mr Cruz, I am a Canadian citizen. Unlike him, I was born in the US. Nor am I some Dago interloper!

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 1:13 AM  

They think Jesus and Lucifer are brothers, too. Don't forget that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 20, 2016 1:14 AM  

Mormons also believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ and accept Him as Lord and Savior.

In words only. They believe Christ is a created being, sharing in the life of the Father, but not sharing in the essence or identity. It's not merely the "relationship between the Son and the Father" that they have wrong, but the question of Who Christ is.
The do not know Who Christ is, and they are not Christian.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 1:19 AM  

Let's not even get into the Star Trek stuff, You know what I'm sayin' ?

Blogger Sherwood family January 20, 2016 1:23 AM  

Mosby, Yep, they do. Job 38:7 is the basis for that view.

Blogger Doom January 20, 2016 1:27 AM  

Sherwood Family,

Hmm? Mormons, the ones I know, most definitely believe in the apostolic ascension, just not the one us Catholics abide. They hate it when I chide them for having a pope, just calling him a prophet, but that is as I see it. I have some very close friends in their community, and have allowed their missionaries in as often as they like. Though any who wish to visit are quite welcome, so long as they remain civil and come with good intent... even if they are wrong. :p Whether I agree with their faith, I do like that many of their kids get off their butts and go out to learn and teach and work. I'll feed em' when I can, they have helped me often, and others. Though that isn't just as it is. I would gift any youngling who gets off their duff and goes out like that. Yeah, they do believe in the apostolic ascension. The ones I know, and I know many.

Anonymous St. Cecilia January 20, 2016 1:27 AM  

Howzit an indication of how other women will vote? Far more likely: it'll turn off women who might otherwise have been ready to abandon the Dems. If blocking Muslim immigration isn't a sufficient motivation, what could Palin add?

Blogger Sherwood family January 20, 2016 1:27 AM  

Whiplash: No Mormon would disagree that their understanding of Christ differs from that of the one outlined in the Nicene and Athanasian creeds. But they view those creeds as evidence of the influence of Hellenistic philosophy on early Christianity and being out of conformity with the teachings of Christ and the apostles.

Blogger Sherwood family January 20, 2016 1:29 AM  

Doom, they do believe in apostolic authority but they do not believe that the Roman Catholic or Orthodox churches hold that authority. Mormons claim their own line of apostolic succession.

Blogger Technomad January 20, 2016 1:38 AM  

I would say a lot of it is also a big old "F-ck YOU!" to the news media that savaged her so cruelly to protect the pea-patch Kwizatch Haderach they loved. She's not nearly as stupid as they loved to portray her, and she knows that the media-scumvermin loathe Trump.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 1:40 AM  

Sherwood, There are quite a few here knows LDS inside baseball. Do you get me ? Don't take it personal, either .

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 1:51 AM  

Mormons also believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ and accept Him as Lord and Savior.
That's real nice of you to "accept " The Lord .
Hardshell Baptists like myself are grateful to be accepted by Him.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit January 20, 2016 2:12 AM  

#188 Howzit an indication of how other women will vote? Far more likely: it'll turn off women who might otherwise have been ready to abandon the Dems. If blocking Muslim immigration isn't a sufficient motivation, what could Palin add?

Selling Trump to conservative women, who would otherwise stay home, or just not vote the presidential spot on the ballot.

I'm not one of them, because I owe my country a debt for helping to dump Clinton on them when I voted for Maury. But they exist, and Trump needs them, if he's not going to pull a Romney in the election.

Blogger SciVo January 20, 2016 2:25 AM  

@ dh:

Yeah, I have Mormons on my mom's side and they're all these really stable, well-adjusted, reliable, decent people... with a theology that I think is totally effed up. But I can't hold it against them since they're so damn nice.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett January 20, 2016 2:31 AM  

@74

The Nicene Fathers say you're talking out of your hat.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY January 20, 2016 2:33 AM  

Yeah, I have Mormons on my mom's side and they're all these really stable, well-adjusted, reliable, decent people... with a theology that I think is totally effed up
Nail, meet the hammer.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett January 20, 2016 2:35 AM  

@77

All I hear is Brett Butler shouting 'Don't you judge me!'

But seriously, proof texting is for dumbasses.

Blogger Sherwood family January 20, 2016 3:32 AM  

Mosby, I agree, and I don't take it personally. Mormon inside baseball is not a big secret so it is not a surprise that you are familiar with it. Jesus Christ is the one who decides who is accepted or not, as you say, I was merely using that phrase as a shorthand to point out that Mormons believe that salvation is available only through Jesus.

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