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Thursday, January 28, 2016

Sweden to begin respections

As we are informed, integration is discrimination and repatriation is respect, so it is good to see that Sweden has announced it will be respecting half of the migrants who arrived in 2015 to their home nations.
Sweden intends to expel up to 80,000 migrants who arrived in 2015 and whose application for asylum has been rejected, Interior Minister Anders Ygeman said on Wednesday. "We are talking about 60,000 people but the number could climb to 80,000," the minister was quoted as saying by Swedish media, adding that the government had asked the police and authorities in charge of migrants to organise their expulsion.... 

Ygeman said the expulsions, normally carried out using commercial flights, would have to be done using specially chartered aircraft, given the large numbers, staggered over several years.

Sweden, which is home to 9.8 million people, is one of the European Union countries that has taken in the largest number of refugees in relation to its population. Sweden accepted more than 160,000 asylum seekers last year.
It appears to be a good start, anyhow. Once the Swedish Democrats take power, we can safely expect the other half to be respected, and more than a few of the migrants who arrived before then.

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Blogger vashine January 28, 2016 4:29 AM  

A sign of hope. Thank God. Do not, do not, do not let up on the rhetorical attacks and shaming of anyone who still support rapefugees, the existence of Muslims or Islam in their nations, or Diversity.

Immigration is discrimination. Repatriation is respect.

Against Trump? FOR Muslim Rape Gangs!!!

Do not let up, and watch them run, cry, and then shut up as they feel, see, and hear the tide turning against them. It's happening. Faster please.

Blogger Sherwood family January 28, 2016 4:43 AM  

I guess that answered the question I asked yesterday about when actual policies would emerge to deal with the rapefugees. Faster, too, than I would have thought. Keep beating the drum. Perhaps Sweden's example will stiffen the spines of leadership in other countries, including the U.S., when dealing with criminal foreign invaders.

Blogger Jon M January 28, 2016 4:47 AM  

Uh huh. "Intend to." Call me when the first planeload lands in the desert. Swedish officials have all the credibility of a timeshare salesman these days.

Blogger Shimshon January 28, 2016 4:50 AM  

Vox, won't the vibrants resist such respect? Assuming they even try to deport en masse. Once that happens, I would expect years to suddenly only take months.

Blogger James Higham January 28, 2016 5:12 AM  

Respections, eh? Great new word for the lexicon.

Blogger finndistan January 28, 2016 5:37 AM  

Shimshon, when the rapefugees turn into riotfugees, and rape a few police officers' daughters, beat few sons of soldiers into a pulp, the Swedes might turn on anybody who holds a sign "prefer refugees to racists", and then the repatriation might indeed be swift.

Now, if that doesn't happen and sweden goes down in jizz-ya and flames, at least that will give ammunition to the Polish, Hungarian and Czech people fighting for the west. Might even make German police to consider where they turn their water cannons next.

Blogger Remo - Vile Faceless Minion #99 January 28, 2016 5:56 AM  

Oh this is going to go well. Young diminutive blond independent empowered police woman: "Pardon me sir but you'll need to gather your things and proceed to the airport - here is your ticket". Migrant "Slobber Slobber RAPE KILL Slobber Slobber SLOBBER!" (tears up ticket - throws feces at strong empowered independent police woman).

Blogger Shimshon January 28, 2016 6:06 AM  

@8 That was the most moving depiction of an orc that I've ever read. Brought me to tears. You have a bright future.

Anonymous Swed January 28, 2016 6:31 AM  

I might believe it the day the police start using violence against the antifas who always interfere with respections.

Anonymous Steve January 28, 2016 6:34 AM  

Talk is cheap, but just five years ago this announcement would have been unthinkable in Sweden.

The cucks won't keep a lid on resurgent European nationalism with empty promises.

Faster, please.

Blogger tz January 28, 2016 6:58 AM  

@7 exactly.
If they don't know where and who they are anyway, it will be hard. They might just cross a border or two - isn't Frauher Merkle still welcoming?
Jews might have boarded cattle cars for a while (and the Nazis told them it was to take them to safety). Putting snakes on a plane will be harder.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 28, 2016 7:01 AM  

It is the passing of a religion we are seeing here. I've been reading some of the cucks writings especially from the World Healers perspective at Commentary and Red State, crap metaphysics, "magic dirt, oh magic dirt, the mob disputes magic dirt."

I have a better idea, we shit can the joke magic dirt and substitute "Magic People", but we export them to lands that require their "Magic Words." Sure the profit margin is below the required 10% and there will be a shortage of white women, but their god will love them, trust me.

Anonymous Jake from State Farm January 28, 2016 7:13 AM  

Yeah, wake me up when the first plane takes off.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 28, 2016 7:22 AM  

SJW you ain't seen nothing yet, as of now I interpret this as the usual politics of abstract debate and elections.

Soon will begin what is called personal politics meaning they come for you and blame you for your stupidity and suddenly find that SJW are the little guy type who hides behind green curtains blowing smoke.

Yep personal politics will not be good for SJW emotional and perhaps physical health.

Anonymous DaveD January 28, 2016 7:38 AM  

Wait. It's going to take several YEARS to expel 60,000-80,000 people? What are they doing, walking them home? One at a time?

Blogger Phillip George January 28, 2016 7:44 AM  

Aurelie Chatelain. Killed by Islam - killed by SJW. Really what's the difference? Self righteous pricks practicing narcissistic religion.
There is no null set in religion. Everyone has one - be it materialism / humanism or Ewoch Kickass Jedi Knightism - it's religion. Pick a side and stick to it. Fence your side in and enjoy a nation once again. How easy is that?
Look, a one hundred word guide to world peace. Fences work.

Shoot a sophist to get there faster.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 28, 2016 7:46 AM  

@15 5 flights a day, 200 per flight, 60-80 days; it might be possible for one plane to do 1.5 round trips per day.  Anyone who says that there aren't 5 airplanes available for charter is lying.

Anonymous Jay Will January 28, 2016 8:11 AM  

What is driving multi-culturalism? Is it cucked politicians? Cuck nations of low T men? Why does there always seem to be a ((globalist)) behind the politicians, NGO's and "charities".

Its all falling apart both the globalist narrative, and the debt based economies. The only escape for elites is major war and then an attempt to re-establish power out of the devastated populations who will forget about their other losses having faced the brutality of war.

The immivasion is a panicked elite speeding up the multi-culture process, effectively they are going to deliberately crash the "train".

The US people will then, given what fear of war will do to their deep brain, suspend their divisions and back the globalists with the full might of their military specifically 4GW busting nuclear razing, as will some Euro nations in wiping out the scourge of the rising new Nazis in Europe.

The masses will trudge towards their battle stations like good patriots to fight a war that never needed to happen, while scheming hooded Emperor like villains rub their hands with glee behind the scenes.

Anonymous Jay Will January 28, 2016 8:16 AM  

@9

"I might believe it the day the police start using violence against the antifas"

Why would they use violence against their own people?

Anonymous Big Bill January 28, 2016 8:17 AM  

@10: The most dangerous time for every tyrant is when he relaxes his grip.

Revolutions do not start when people are ground down and hopeless.

Revolutions start when the government eases the pressure and hope swells.

If the ruling Swedish SJWs are not extremely careful it could be interpreted as weakness. The native Swedes may be heartened, and their anti-immigrant demos could turn into riots and arson.

Now that SJWs are showing their true weakness and fear, I look forward to Swedish men growing a pair and attacking Malmo.

Blogger Greg Johnson January 28, 2016 8:53 AM  

You don't stop a rapist by letting him put it only halfway in.

Anonymous Swed January 28, 2016 8:56 AM  

@19

Why would you use violence against people breaking into the detention centers and freeing the rapefugees, as they have done so many times in the past? Because they're not going to stop when asked nicely.

Anonymous Matt January 28, 2016 8:57 AM  

Nice one

Blogger VD January 28, 2016 9:00 AM  

That's enough of your incessant doomsaying, Jay. If you can't do anything but play Eeyore and repeatedly predict that no one can do anything anywhere that will not be immediately squelched by the US government, go do it somewhere else.

Anonymous Jay Will January 28, 2016 9:19 AM  

Good call, thought you'd tell me to stop. Its the J word though. Ive been doomsaying, ranting and being self-indulgent on here from the very beginning. Shine a light, but be careful you don't shine a light over there and draw too much attention to yourself, because there are bigger lamps out there, and they have death rays too.

The J is like the One ring being used, it draws Sauron's gaze.

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Liberty January 28, 2016 9:32 AM  

I expect a lot of orcs will be killed resisting respect.

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 28, 2016 9:41 AM  

Hmmm, is it possible we may escape this without descending into bloodshed on a scale not seen in 70 years?

Blogger Student in Blue January 28, 2016 9:42 AM  

@11. tz
Jews might have boarded cattle cars for a while (and the Nazis told them it was to take them to safety). Putting snakes on a plane will be harder.

I've had it with these mu'fuggin snakes...!

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 28, 2016 9:43 AM  

``I expect a lot of orcs will be killed resisting respect.''
Yet another upside!

Anonymous The OASF January 28, 2016 9:44 AM  

VD, whether you like it or not, Jay has a point. These European governments will almost assuredly be knuckled under by the US government. I mean, show us some proof that they won't? Have you never read a Paul Craig Roberts article?

I know you must be frustrated because you fled to Italy to specifically avoid this crap. But taking it out on your readership isn't going to solve anything.

Blogger James Dixon January 28, 2016 10:07 AM  

> Hmmm, is it possible we may escape this without descending into bloodshed on a scale not seen in 70 years?

Possible, yes. Likely, no. The invaders have a say in matters too.

Anonymous rienzi January 28, 2016 10:21 AM  

My son's Norwegian in-laws are the single most leftist people I have ever met. Make Bernie Sanders look like an Oregon militiaman.

Last year they were singing the praises of immigration to the skies. Then the Norwegian government started converting an unused warehouse into a rapefugee center.

A kilometer from their house.

NOW they sound like Donald Trump on the subject.

Anonymous Gedrin January 28, 2016 11:10 AM  

I'm surprised the government admitted it would be years. I expect the whole time they will be "respecting" these guys, they'll keep right on importing new ones.

Blogger The Other Robot January 28, 2016 11:14 AM  

And Germany has begun to respect its gold.

I wonder if some of that gold started out in Ukraine?

Anonymous GreyS January 28, 2016 11:15 AM  

They will do it. Probably not 80 grand but they will do it. This is not so much a nation suddenly waking up to a problem but more of an effort to dissuade more Orcs from coming and getting them to go to other countries.

What happens when the really begin doing it? The immigrants will leave in droves to other countries. Easy to see the pressure being racheted up on other countries. We are in the early stages. Wait til the predicable reactive violence by immigrants happens.

Anonymous Joe Blowe January 28, 2016 11:25 AM  

@32 Tolerance for Diversities is proportional to the distance from them.

As for this program of respections it sounds like a press release to make it seem like the Globo-Marxist government is "doing something" and placate the Swedish rubes. Besides that USA actually deports invaders all the time and that hasn't slowed the pace of infiltration.

Unfortunately, the only thing that will stop the invasion now is deadly force.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 28, 2016 11:36 AM  

I don't have the skill set, but I'm sure one of the ilk does:

Someone should take that muhfuh "coexist" sign and change the crescent moon to a scimitar, then have the other letters with their tops lopped off and blood dripping down from them.
(or maybe it's already been done... can't find anything with a cursory google search though...)

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner January 28, 2016 11:41 AM  

If they show up in a cargo boat sent them back in a cargo boat, far better for carbon footprints. I propose we build a cannon to shoot them back with.

Revolutions start when the government eases the pressure and hope swells.

Dang I just said this aboud Davos quotes: 6.Holy affirmative action hires batman. Female IMF Managing Director says “we’ve heard a lot about the internet of things- I think we need an internet of women”. Does she not know about porn?
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/36-wtf-quotes-from-the-davos-elite-bubble-chamber_012016

Damn Bibi said “Rob them of the hope that their wild fantasies will win out the day.

Jews might have boarded cattle cars for a while (and the Nazis told them it was to take them to safety)

Maybe we can find a moslem version of Soros to help.

Tolerance for Diversities is proportional to the distance from them.

You have to meet them in real life or at least see videos lamestream wont show that disprove the narrative. I wonder if you can still find Baitcar on jewtube. It helps if you have meet 7 dwarfs in real life before you meet a black as smart as seen on TV.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 28, 2016 11:44 AM  

Isn't Sweden in the top 2 countries there in Europe that are pushing this immigration crap?

Doesn't that make a cave on the part of pro-imms?

Blogger Sheila4g January 28, 2016 11:47 AM  

@#20 Big Bill: "The most dangerous time for every tyrant is when he relaxes his grip.

Revolutions do not start when people are ground down and hopeless.

Revolutions start when the government eases the pressure and hope swells."

This. I've been reading a European history book (1815 - 1914) I used in graduate school with my 16 year old, and right now we're at the 1848 revolutions. It had been decades since I'd read the book, but I was struck (and stressed the same point to my kid) by how time and again, any country that showed any sign of compromise or willingness to cede any power whatsoever was subject to continual escalation by the revolutionaries. Just like today's SJWs, they didn't want a seat at the table, they wanted to own it all. They weren't looking for concessions, they were aggressive entryists looking to overthrow the whole thing. In France, Louis Philippe refused to use all-out force to restore order, and abdicated instead. The French National Assembly, which then took power, took the opposite tack when their orders to restore order and return to work were ignored by the opposition - they called in the National Guard and ended up killing thousands and arresting an additional 12 thousand.

While Sweden's present government obviously intends this to weaken the opposition and diffuse the growing anger over the rapefugees, it's nice to think it may, instead, embolden the locals to start taking matters into their own hands.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 28, 2016 12:06 PM  

@37...
...and for that miserable chicken-footprint peace sign, have blood dripping down from between the lower legs...

Anonymous Jay Will January 28, 2016 12:30 PM  

"That's enough of your incessant doomsaying, Jay. If you can't do anything but play Eeyore and repeatedly predict that no one can do anything anywhere that will not be immediately squelched by the US government, go do it somewhere else."

Just to confirm VD its the negativity part of it that is the problem? I can change that, Id rather still comment on here.

But is it that or is it that the content is not something you want on here, if it is then I'll stop posting because thats where I think the truth is, and I came on here because I felt it, like other internet blogs, was shining a light on all this.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 28, 2016 12:32 PM  

Predicting obstacles and setbacks is fine, so long as you do it in the context of strategic ingredients how you overcome them. But if all you do is say woe is us, then learn to put a cork in it for your own sake. Defeatist will be shot first, if it comes to that.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 28, 2016 12:42 PM  

@ BGKB

"Maybe we can find a moslem version of Soros to help."

Thread-winner!

Anonymous Bz January 28, 2016 1:05 PM  

That still leaves no less than 100,000, an increase of more than 1% of the population. Each of which will probably send for a rogues' gallery of family. I'd bet nearly all of the remainder are not real refugees either.

Still, I wish Sweden the best of luck with sending them back.

Blogger Azimus January 28, 2016 1:06 PM  

From the article:
Sweden intends to expel up to 80,000 migrants who arrived in 2015 and whose application for asylum has been rejected, Interior Minister Anders Ygeman said on Wednesday


We are reliably informed that this is impossible, so...

Blogger VD January 28, 2016 1:13 PM  

VD, whether you like it or not, Jay has a point. These European governments will almost assuredly be knuckled under by the US government.

Of course Jay has a point. The problem is that he clearly takes great pleasure in repeating it over and over and over again. Is my policy on monomanias not sufficiently clear?

Just to confirm VD its the negativity part of it that is the problem? I can change that, Id rather still comment on here.

That is the only problem. I'd prefer to have you comment here too. But I will not permit constant defeatism. Identifying problems is only the first step. The next one is to adapt. The third one is to overcome.

Everything that is not actually impossible is possible. The US government is neither God nor the Devil; it is not omnipotent.

Anonymous BGKB January 28, 2016 1:17 PM  

We are reliably informed that this is impossible, so...

Only by holocaust deniers, well some of them anyway.

Anonymous Jay Will January 28, 2016 1:21 PM  

@47

Ok good. I'll cut out the negativity and monomania.

Blogger kmbr January 28, 2016 1:37 PM  

I don't believe it. I can't imagine they have the stomach for it. Yet.

Blogger Dewave January 28, 2016 1:55 PM  

"whether you like it or not, Jay has a point. These European governments will almost assuredly be knuckled under by the US government. I mean, show us some proof that they won't? "

Their isn't appetite in the US populace to start military action against Syria or Iran, let alone Sweden.

Obviously there are other levers to pull, but the idea the US military is going to scourge Europe seems completely far fetched to me. I'm not sure it even has the capabilites - the US military is in the midst of decades of social engineering projects that have seriously degraded it's abilities.

Blogger haus frau January 28, 2016 2:25 PM  

"whether you like it or not, Jay has a point. These European governments will almost assuredly be knuckled under by the US government. I mean, show us some proof that they won't? "

Jay Will and whoever wrote this are you in the US? Do you really think the US public and the grunt soldiers in our military have any interest in going to war with native Europeans on behalf of muslim-orc hordes? This isn't Serbia again. A substantial portion of the electorate and the military have had enough of a taste of Islam via terrorism and immigration to be apathetic to their eventual slaughter in Europe if not outright support it. Throw in the debt chickens coming home to roost where the welfare largess begins to dry up and every day people are feeling the pinch and no one will care what happens to Europe's imported third world underclass. Outside of the usual moral posturing by our politicians, the public will see any US intervention on there behalf as competing directly with their own interests, which it will be.

Anonymous BGKB January 28, 2016 2:42 PM  

To bad facial recognition doesn't work well with blacks or San Frans new plan to spy on ex boyfriends could have helped the Swedes. http://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2016/01/feds-installing-facial-recognition.html "Feds installing facial recognition cameras to identify pedestrians at night and through fog"

Anonymous Discard January 28, 2016 2:50 PM  

Throwing out the Orcs won't be enough. Those who welcomed them need to go too. Do you let a thief off if, when you catch him, he returns your stuff?

Anonymous Ad Victoriam January 28, 2016 3:42 PM  

@54 a slight variant because orcs aren't returning (anything) voluntarily:

Throwing out the Orcs won't be enough. Those who welcomed them need to go too. Do you let a thief off just because, after you catch him, you take your stuff back?

Blogger Jon M January 28, 2016 3:45 PM  

@10: "Talk is cheap, but just five years ago this announcement would have been unthinkable in Sweden."

Steve, that's a great point. Admitting you have a problem is always the first step, and we should celebrate Sweden do so. It's a good sign, and maybe a step in the right direction. While cautiously optimistic, we can still reserve judgment until we are sure it isn't just another head-fake.

Anonymous Grave E. Trayn January 28, 2016 3:55 PM  

"Respections..." bawwhahah! I did indeed laugh out loud! It's a lovely rhetorical twist, indeed.

Anonymous The OASF January 28, 2016 4:20 PM  

@52

"Jay Will and whoever wrote this are you in the US? Do you really think the US public and the grunt soldiers in our military have any interest in going to war with native Europeans on behalf of muslim-orc hordes?"

That is so hilariously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Did the hired soldiers in the Army of the Potomac have any problems crushing their fellow citizens (civilians included) of the South? Did Vietnam grunts have any issues butchering Vietnamese? Do the Feds have any trouble shooting unarmed militiamen in the face? Do you think the US public is aware of it and if they are, do you think they really care?

Grow up, son.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 28, 2016 4:54 PM  

The US is not going to invade Europe at any time soon. Our economy is shot and more importantly this risks Russian intervention. The Kosovo intervention happened when Russia was nearly supine under Yeltsin and while they are not as strong as they could be, it ain't 1999.

Current Russia is more than capable of a mixed offensive/ defensive war and hurting and maybe defeating or destroying the US without nukes or with Gods help anyway.

Any war risks huge military losses and if somehow the US starts to win, immediate nuclear war probably starting with troops on the ground and if that fails a major East Coast city.

If that happens and the US retains CINC or is even intact, we have two choices, surrender or Armageddon

And note too, there will be no bolt hole for the elite anywhere Any power harboring enemies of Russia risks getting an ICBM on its major cities. No way would the government of Paraguay for example risk the nuclear annihilation of Asunción for foreign oligarchs and if nukes have already flown, there is nothing anyone can do.

Now if it starts a new Cold war which might be an acceptable outcome to the Deep State, the risks to Europe are high. Russian or other guns, ammo, RPG's explosives flooding into the hands of nationalists who are liable to very pro Russian is nightmare scenario.

Europeans you see are far far more willing to fight for Americans. Unlike us they aren't ultra-individualistic and have something concrete to believe in, a nation and an identity with along myth and history.

They are more than capable of a hell of a fight and will fight harder, better and smarter than any Ork hoard (or is it Orc horde? Have we decided in the spelling yes?)

The Euro Folk could lose but I suspect not and unless most Orks are repatriated soon in a humane way, they'll be repatriated in a less humane way and up will come the statuses of Brehvik and whichever heroes step up.

Blogger Joe A. January 28, 2016 5:13 PM  

Thank God above that some measurable degree of sanity kicked in amongst the Swedes this early into the madness.

Blogger JCclimber January 28, 2016 6:15 PM  

It is worth celebrating that a high level official in Sweden has even enunciated this goal.

Seriously, this is a major turning point. Talk is cheap. But talk also shows where thoughts are going. I think the New Year's Eve gropefest may be a decisive factor, because it finally led to the Swedish newspapers admitting that they've been covering up the other gropefests for several years.

Blogger JCclimber January 28, 2016 6:18 PM  

The question for Sweden is: will you backoff the pressure now that some Interior Minister talked the talk but hasn't yet walked the walk?

Or do you continue, and ratchet up the pressure? I'd highly recommend that they redouble the pressure, and change the narrative to make them very defensive about not sending them ALL back lickety split.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 28, 2016 6:20 PM  

I was just pondering the detail of how many chartered airliners would be required to perform the repatriations and I suddenly remembered reading this:

"Amateurs study tactics.  Professionals study logistics."

Heh.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 28, 2016 8:02 PM  

Airplanes? Screw airplanes. Drop them in German waters, about 20 meters offshore. Let the fucking gGermans deal with them.

Blogger dfordoom January 28, 2016 8:34 PM  

@36. Joe Blowe

As for this program of respections it sounds like a press release to make it seem like the Globo-Marxist government is "doing something" and placate the Swedish rubes.

Yep. The intention is to undermine the Sweden Democrats. The government will be able to say that now there is no reason to vote for those evil wicked neo-nazi hate-monger Sweden Democrats. Will the Swedish voters fall for it? You bet they will. Expect to see support for the Sweden Democrats start to collapse.

Blogger Erika Juhasz Nagy January 28, 2016 8:42 PM  

this is equivalent to the Donald respecting 2.4 million leaf blowers.

Blogger dfordoom January 28, 2016 9:00 PM  

@51. Dewave

Their isn't appetite in the US populace to start military action against Syria or Iran, let alone Sweden.

Obviously there are other levers to pull, but the idea the US military is going to scourge Europe seems completely far fetched to me.


It won't be military action. But it is quite likely the US will start imposing economic sanctions on any European country that doesn't toe the globalist line.

The problem with that is that eventually the US will be imposing sanctions on almost everyone. If the US imposes sanctions on every country whose policies it disapproves of, or (more significantly) every country that it considers to be a threat to its global hegemony, how many countries will end up on its Enemies List?

What happened to the French when they tried to establish themselves as the dominant power in western Europe? All the other Powers united against them. The best hope is that the same thing will happen to the US. If a crazy neocon gets elected POTUS this year that could start to happen quite soon. If the US pushes too far it could end up being economically isolated. And if that starts to hurt lots of Americans the neocons might find themselves suddenly very unpopular.

Blogger dfordoom January 28, 2016 9:18 PM  

@52. haus frau

Do you really think the US public and the grunt soldiers in our military have any interest in going to war with native Europeans

Well the US has done it before. All it requires is that those native Europeans be demonised. That's how "liberal" "democracies" wage war. The first step is to to present the war as a moral crusade. Just like WW1 and WW2. Just tell Americans that the trouble with those European nationalists is that "they hate our freedoms". Those European nationalists are fascists. We need to restore freedom and democracy in Europe.

It helps if you have the entire media on your side. That won't be a problem. The media has already succeeded in dehumanising and demonising the Russians, who are after all native Europeans.

But as I said in an earlier comment, it won't be actual military action. It will be a combination of economic sanctions and US-backed coups. Military force will be kept in reserve, just in case. But there's no question that US troops would have no qualms about making war on Europeans as long as it's in a good cause - a "crusade against fascism".

The danger for the US is that it might create an enormous anti-American backlash throughout Europe. I'm actually surprised this hasn't started to happen yet. The bigger danger would be the emergence of mass left-wing populist parties in Europe.

Anonymous Discard January 28, 2016 10:03 PM  

55. Ad Victorium: By "thieves" I meant those who let the Orcs in. When the Orcs are gone, their European patrons must not be let off with a "Sorry, my bad". When I catch you stealing my car, I don't just want my car back, I want you to go to jail.

Anonymous Ricardo January 29, 2016 12:17 AM  

A biblical view on immigration:
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_4/The_Bible_Gives_No_Sanction_to_Open_Borders.shtml

Anonymous The Kulak January 29, 2016 5:00 PM  

@ 59, @67 and @68 A few thoughts...

As I wrote in a previous thread, the U.S. does not have the ability to fight a conventional war with Russia within about 400 miles of Russian borders. Period. Yes that includes at sea with Gens. Breedlove and his deputy Hodges already more or less admitting Russian area denial weapons in the form of supersonic anti-ship (Bastion, Kalibr in terminal phase) and anti-air missiles (S400/500) mean that in case of war the Baltic and Black Seas become Russian lakes.

On the flip side, Russia does not have the manpower to occupy all of Ukraine, much less significant parts of Poland or to lock down the whole Baltic states. Thus the notion that Russia would ever overtly intervene on behalf of European nationalists in their countries (which ones? Sweden? Get real) is a pipe dream. At best, Russia would send arms. If the U.S. tried to use mass unrest in Sweden to occupy Swedish islands in the Baltics or otherwise threaten Russia directly, the Russians would announce they've built up their tactical nuke tipped Kalibrs and hypersonic Iskanders within range of those American positions. Should a crazed neocon President take further hostile action, they could overrun U.S. positions in the Baltics in about 72 hours or less (look it up, the RAND Corporation admitted the Baltics are indefensible without tactical nukes), delivering psychological shock and awe in the form of thousands of American/NATO troops marched into captivity on TV.

But occupy much less try to assimulate millions of hostile Balts or people in northeastern Poland bordering Kaliningrad? Forget it. And the only scenario I could possibly see Russia doing that is if the U.S. attacked first or NATO blockaded Kaliningrad, which itself would be an act of war that the French, Germans, Italians, Greeks, Hungarians and possibly the Czechs and Slovaks as NATO's reluctant warriors would be dragged into kicking and screaming.

The Russians are not about to ship weaponry into a European country not allied to them (excluding Belarus, Transnistria, Serbia) that isn't already in an open state of civil war. Putin if anything has been very cautious not to get drawn into the NATO game of 'let's you and him fight' and especially, Washington's admitted by George Friedman of Stratfor agenda to keep the Russians and Germans apart at any cost. The gas must flow.

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