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Sunday, January 31, 2016

The Chrishanger reviews Cuckservative

Chris Nuttall, the bestselling SF author, reviews Cuckservative: How "Conservatives" betrayed America:
If there is nothing else that can be said about Vox Day – and a great deal of nonsense has been written about him – it is that his mere existence is a testament to the damage done to free speech and common sense by the politically-correct. To try to avoid giving unnecessary offense is a laudable goal, but to declare whole fields of study verboten because of the potential for offense is just plain stupid. Worse, perhaps, when the difference between words and reality becomes impossible to avoid, it undermines faith, the faith we need to keep our society running. Reality does not change on command.

After the runaway bestseller SJWs Always Lie (reviewed here), Vox Day tackles two subjects that don’t, on first glance, seem to go together. On one hand, there is the tidal wave of immigration pouring into America (and Europe) and, on the other hand, there is the supine surrender of American Conservatives to liberal thoughts and ideals that have very little relationship to reality. These people have become known as ‘Cuckservatives’ – a combination of ‘cuckoo’ and ‘conservative’ and the fact that the word itself has been declared offensive tells you a great deal about its power.
While Cuckservative has sold well, it hasn't taken off the way SJWAL did, despite the fact that immigration is the only serious issue in the presidential campaign and the European migrant crisis has been the primary news item for the last six months.

I think this tends to indicate that many people are still holding out hope that the immigration issue will somehow sort itself out, that it's not something with which they actually have to come to terms. This is unlike the situation with SJWs, who cannot be avoided in the media, at school, at work, or even, in too many cases, in the family.

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55 Comments:

Blogger SS January 31, 2016 12:14 PM  

I got both and liked them both. For me the cucks are more dangerous because of what they enable. SJWs can only insult me. Cucks allow murderers to roam the streets and flow through the border.

Anonymous karsten January 31, 2016 12:31 PM  

I liked parts of Cuckservative, but my feeling is that it held back, in certain ways, right from the guest introduction, which still had within it a nod to some elements of the proposition nation. (This is me being diplomatic.)

Many chapters seemed to be making great efforts to be reasonable and persuasive to fence-sitters, rather than being red meat for Alt Righters. Being an Alt Righter, I would have more greatly enjoyed the latter, although I recognize the wisdom in targeting the former.

I also think that the book was attempting to de-fang the term itsef, cuckservative, from some of its more, shall we say, strident definitions or implications. That follows with my observation in the preceding paragraph.

SJWs Always Lie is a tighter, more biting, more relentless book. If one is already a fan, then one enjoys a sequel that pushes further, rather than one that stays at the same level or moderates itself.

This is my impression, anyway, for what it's worth. I purchased both books, but while I eagerly gifted SJWs Always Lie in ppb, I wasn't impelled to do so with Cuckservative. And I still intend to further share SJWs Always Lie.

Blogger Cecil Henry January 31, 2016 12:40 PM  

SJW's will destroy your month, and maybe your local environment.

Cucks will destroy your society, your future, and it will be irreparable.

The cucks mean it to be that way. And once its destroyed they will blame YOU for it. (Just look at the laughable Glenn Beck)

Blogger S Ss January 31, 2016 12:40 PM  

Preaching to the choir is of limited value. The goal, while possibly not feasible, should be to convert fence-sitters and energize the already-converted.

Blogger S Ss January 31, 2016 12:40 PM  

Preaching to the choir is of limited value. The goal, while possibly not feasible, should be to convert fence-sitters and energize the already-converted.

OpenID paworldandtimes January 31, 2016 12:50 PM  

Waiting for the paperback edition. Will buy as I did SJWs Always Lie.

PA

OpenID malcolmthecynic January 31, 2016 12:54 PM  

I think it might also be that the title doesn't immediately bring immigration to mind - as opposed to "SJW's Always Lie", which is as good a title as I've ever seen.

Blogger Ahazuerus January 31, 2016 1:15 PM  


British Cuckservatives

Blogger pyrrhus January 31, 2016 1:21 PM  

And we already have Ann Coulter's Adios America! Still, I think your sales will continue....

Blogger Booch Paradise January 31, 2016 1:23 PM  

I would suspect SJWAL is more popular because it's more niche on a newer and hotter topic. It's not that conservative betrayal and immigration isn't considered more important, so much as that it's an old topic that already has a million books written on it.

Blogger pyrrhus January 31, 2016 1:24 PM  

@2 I agree. And most people are naturally more interested in their personal problems than in the collapse of their civilization....

Anonymous glenintenn January 31, 2016 1:27 PM  

Flametardery on Chrishanger blog is worth a looksee

Anonymous Roundtine January 31, 2016 1:42 PM  

Need a paperback edition. I would guess the market for this book is larger the SJWAL, but it includes a lot of people who don't buy ebooks. I want to have a few older conservatives I know read it, but they don't use ebooks.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 31, 2016 1:49 PM  

When does Cuckservative come out in paperback? As a book meant to convert fence-sitters, it's tough to share and spread it via Kindle.

Blogger Nate January 31, 2016 2:12 PM  

i can't help but think Cuckservative would be more perfectly timed for the Euro market than the US market.

Immigration in america is in a bad place... but not nearly as bad a place as Europe is.

and yes.. I know... I know... the numbers are greater in America. Fine. But as I've stated before... I'll take 60 million mexicans over 600,000 muslims in a heart beat.

Blogger Jourdan January 31, 2016 2:24 PM  

@15 Nate - Short term, that is a decent deal, but long term the Latin Americanization (crony capitalism, entrenched elites, decay in public square, over-emotionalism, corruption, violence and superstition) of the U.S. is many, many times the threat of Islam. Islam is a problem that can be easily solved given the right leadership...unlike the proverbial Western town with a U.S. Marshall and a Black Hat, this planet (town) is plenty big enough for both of us.

Blogger Nick S January 31, 2016 2:24 PM  

I suspect there are more than a few people, unfamiliar with the backstory, that are put off by a subconscious perception of "ickiness" from the Cuckservative title.

@1 & @3 : There is a significant amount of overlap between SJWs and cuckservatives.

Blogger Jourdan January 31, 2016 2:30 PM  

#15 Nate - Let me add: we are both from areas of the U.S. where Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are part of the social fabric, organically part of our home, so we get why things could be worse. Still, I prefer El Paso to Cuidad Juarez, and I know you do too. It's really a matter of numbers. Mexicans in the U.S. circa 1970 is fine; since then, a threat.

Anonymous St. Cecilia January 31, 2016 2:36 PM  

Don't be afraid to end a sentence with a preposition. Orwell and Churchill did it, so literate Americans can too.

Blogger ray January 31, 2016 2:37 PM  

"I think this tends to indicate that many people are still holding out hope that the immigration issue will somehow sort itself out, that it's not something with which they actually have to come to terms."


No, it's because you and your friends put all your chips on Immigration as panacea. Which it isn't. Not even at the political level. It's great for populist kneejerkism but does not change hearts. Without the hearts changing the fences fail.

The SJW book sold better due to originality, and the breadth of it's subject-matter -- PC tyranny in general. The subsequent tome, more focused in content, naturally appealed to fewer buyers/readers.

Blogger dienw January 31, 2016 2:38 PM  

Jane Weir at American Renaissance reviewed Cuckservative fro her January 29th column.

Anonymous BGKB January 31, 2016 2:45 PM  

I would suspect SJWAL is more popular because it's more niche on a newer and hotter topic.

Cucks certainly wont buy it. Perhaps if it had a pick of a white guy on his knees saying TAKE MY DAUGHTER & MY WIFE JUST DONT CALL ME A RACIST people would have a better idea of what the book is about.

Mexicans in the U.S. circa 1970 is fine; since then, a threat.

The US was 90% white and 7% black when leftists changed the border law in 1965. Long term Hispanics have fled CA because it is getting to much like Mexico.

Blogger Nate January 31, 2016 2:53 PM  

"#15 Nate - Let me add: we are both from areas of the U.S. where Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are part of the social fabric, organically part of our home, so we get why things could be worse. "

Actually... we kicked our mexicans out. Even the kickers on our high school football teams are white.

Anonymous AT January 31, 2016 3:00 PM  

As others have said, SJW's was directly useful to the buyers. Cuckservative will be most useful as a gift, often to those who don't use e-books. Get the paperback out and I will be buying half-a-dozen copies.

Blogger Nate January 31, 2016 3:10 PM  

I also don't agree with the assertion that the aztecs. Our way of life doesnt' exist anymore mate. its gone. It was gone 70 years ago. It was gone 100 years ago. Keeping it is not an option.

So... given that... tell me... would you rather live in panama or Iran?

Mexico or Syria?

Costa Rica or Qatar?

These are not hard choices.

Anonymous Ahmad ibn Fadhlan January 31, 2016 3:15 PM  

Short answer why: Basically, the publicity engine broke down. Conservatives weren't suckered into denunciations that would have fostered awareness, and made people curious enough to read it. You had counted on that amplification (vid. pre-release references). The Left already has their censorship protocol in place, seems the Right has begun their usual very belated adoption.

CS has received some scattered coverage on the Alt-Right, but didn't become a huge thing that would have forced a response. Possibly because Trump is sucking the oxygen from that room.

Absent other pressures to drive Samizdat, CS isn't a failure but it is stalled. Which is why @15 Nate is so on point:

"i can't help but think Cuckservative would be more perfectly timed for the Euro market than the US market."

He's right. Lots more natural Samizdat pressure there. You'd have to do more research to add examples specific to each country/region you translate for, but you'd be able to keep a lot of material from the existing book. Speaking from the supposed home of immigrationist ideology actually adds authority, and Euros have always been seem very fascinated by "cowboys and indians." Then it's a matter of linking into existing networks like PEGIDA as distribution channels, perhaps via some sort of commission/rewards program. You'd need to sell directly from Castalia, though. Germany and other states will pressure Amazon to erase copies from people's devices. I expect Amazon to cave.

I'd start in Italy (home, best known), do French next (best intellectual infrastructure already in place), then go to Germany with buzz behind you. After that, you'd be able to circle back to the USA via notoriety from abroad. That, and time, might change the game.

Blogger Dave January 31, 2016 3:29 PM  

Trump will be a good sales tool for Cuckservative if it looks like he could run away with the primaries. I've been recommending it to right-leaning family members and friends that don't grok the Trump phenomenon.

Blogger ray January 31, 2016 3:47 PM  

"Absent other pressures to drive Samizdat, CS isn't a failure but it is stalled."


I'd call it a success, however limited, that someone came up with such a descriptive term, and someone else picked up and expanded it into a book. Shows perception and initiative.

Sometimes the truth sells, usually not, but I have much enjoyed the cuckservative meme-run. Especially seeing as how cuckservatives hates hates hates! it so much. OOOOH they hates it, so, good value there.

The effort's a plus, even if only ten books sold.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau January 31, 2016 3:52 PM  

I think some people believe the meme the elites put out that since the term Cuckservative first appeared on a Neo Nazi site, only Hard Right Fascists use it and they are afraid of being associated with it.

I preferred RINO at one time but then determined it has no effect. We who believe in liberty and limited government are the RINOs. Cuckservative cuts them to the quick. They don't care about Liberty just the short term profit next quarter.

Blogger LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up Gold, Cooling Under Snow January 31, 2016 4:50 PM  

29 Aww, I'm sweet! Not all neonazi artists are like that!

I'm kidding and being absurd in how cuckservs was a dirty word to boomers but now, thanks to Eagle, Vox, CH, the staff, Cuckservative is a term to discuss NOT disregard!

Moving on to the topic at hand, Vox Day and his staff/league professionals are honorable, talented and will be recalled as beyond the trends, super intel and a betterment to the world. Showing the world of the unknowing Gen X and super intel isn't understood but a necessity for a successful society.

Anonymous Ahmad ibn Fadhlan January 31, 2016 5:06 PM  

@28. Agree on all counts.

Cuckservative still has some open field if Vox wants to put in the effort. Hollywood loves existing franchises, and there's a reason for that.

SJWs Always Lie has open field too. Did someone mention a church-focused version once, to recognize and stop takeovers? Great idea.

Does The Dark Lord have time? If not, would he consider "franchising" approved adaptations?

Anonymous Quartermaster January 31, 2016 5:11 PM  

@21
Good review. A small point, however. Tecumseh tried to unite the Indian nations to throw out the white man. The reviewer apparently doesn't know that.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 31, 2016 5:20 PM  

Cuckoo? No, cuckold.

Anonymous BGKB January 31, 2016 5:47 PM  

Aww, I'm sweet! Not all neonazi artists are like that!

If You Wore a Brown Shirt and a Rainbow Feather Boa my Love, the Hugo award winning tale of

SJWs Always Lie has open field too. Did someone mention a church-focused version once, to recognize and stop takeovers? Great idea....consider "franchising" approved adaptations?

Perhaps Rabbi B will write about how to deal with godless jewish lesbians.

meme the elites put out that since the term Cuckservative first appeared on a Neo Nazi site

Its hard to point out the works of Shakespeare & Chaucer, who called people Cucks, that fit on a thumb drive are more relevant than leftists 5 foot tall stack of cuck porn.

OT: First NYC makes public urination legal, then San Fran goes farther

http://www.newser.com/story/219758/san-franciscos-new-weapon-on-public-urination-open-air-urinal.html

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 31, 2016 5:54 PM  

Its hard to point out the works of Shakespeare & Chaucer, who called people Cucks, that fit on a thumb drive are more relevant than leftists 5 foot tall stack of cuck porn.

All those solid state drives are more expensive, but the HD version must be worth it to them.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 31, 2016 5:56 PM  

OT: First NYC makes public urination legal, then San Fran goes farther

Waiting for a gender studies class at the University of Michigan to make it a mandatory class assignment.

See, this is why we need tranny bathrooms!

Blogger KJE January 31, 2016 6:05 PM  

I agree with #2.

For as much as I enjoyed SJW's Always Lie, I expected more out of Cuckservative.

I think the primary problem with Cuckservative is that it spends a good deal of time developing the idea of Cuckservative, and that cuts into the overall message.

If I had one wish, it would be that there was a better label that could be applied to the concept of Cuckservative, in the same way as Tea Party or NeoCon have come to have meaning.

Blogger tz January 31, 2016 6:17 PM  

Around here, it would end up different.

"Where have you been?"
"At a march downtown with the other Christian women".
"Oh - by the way, I couldn't find some of the kitchen knives".
"I needed to borrow them - they're back now, cleaned and sharp".
"How was the march?"
"Fine until some muslim men showed up and tried to bully us, but we steered them right".
"What's for dinner?"
"Mountain oysters".
"I think we should go out to dinner tonight...".

Blogger tz January 31, 2016 6:22 PM  

@33/OT
someone is going to be pissed.

Blogger tz January 31, 2016 6:28 PM  

@33 Rabbis gonna Rabbi.

Blogger DeeDee Arnold January 31, 2016 8:20 PM  

Well, as a Baby Boomer, I just say keep those tax dollars coming! Just do what you're told to do. April 15 coming up soon! You haven't paid enough? Write you check!

Blogger DeeDee Arnold January 31, 2016 8:40 PM  

I may be stupid, fat and smelly, but for the next 30 years, Ima live off you tax dollas! You morons!

Blogger DeeDee Arnold January 31, 2016 8:55 PM  

Wake the fuck up. Quit trying to figure out what the fuck happened to you and why they fuck you are where you are. Just get a fucking grip on the situation. Good grief.

Blogger ray January 31, 2016 9:54 PM  

Dee Dee you are cute when angry.

Anonymous Dee Dee is a dum dum January 31, 2016 10:26 PM  

whatsamatta? another boomer that didn't plan for their future; gotta wait for that gov't cheez, pleez

Anonymous BGKB January 31, 2016 10:50 PM  

"Waiting for a gender studies class at the University of Michigan to make it a mandatory class assignment. See, this is why we need tranny bathrooms!"

Part of the reason they are doing open air urinals should concern you, it turns out lampposts can fall over from people peeing on them so when its time to hang traitors lampposts might not be able to handle them. From the article.

"City crews have inspected 10,000 light posts to make sure they won’t fall over from erosion. That comes after a three-story-tall light post corroded by a likely mix of human and dog urine, and weighed down by a large banner, toppled."

Blogger automatthew January 31, 2016 11:34 PM  

Yes, yes, there will be a paperback. Castalia House is already working on it.

VD and MK are tired of answering the predictable and inexorable questions about this. Trust them to make the right decisions. Much more is involved in making this happen than you know (unless you grok \renewcommand and are an expert at cover layout).

Anonymous Passinthough February 01, 2016 12:25 AM  

@38
Teach your daughter how to castrate a male animal. You never know when it will come in handy.

Blogger Ahazuerus February 01, 2016 1:18 AM  

So, BKBG, their position is that pissing in the streets is a public health measure?

Fuck me!
[\rhetorical]

Blogger Samuel Nock February 01, 2016 1:21 AM  

"I think this tends to indicate that many people are still holding out hope that the immigration issue will somehow sort itself out, that it's not something with which they actually have to come to terms."

I tend to think it is because most mainstream conservatives still cannot contemplate the very concept of a critique of conservatism from the right. It simply doesn't compute for them. They have been so conditioned to think of conservatives as representing as far right as one can conceive, they are not able to process it. Of course, one could argue that Donald Trump has succeeded in doing precisely that. But that has worked thus far because he is Donald Trump. The same message coming from people who are seen as "Nazis" wouldn't work. Indeed, that is why so many people are trying to convict Trump of guilt by association.

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly February 01, 2016 1:36 AM  

@ Vox: Cuckservative is a very american-centric book compared to SJWs always lie and I believe that is why the sales aren't as good. While cuckservative is worth the money just for your refutation of comparative advantage, as I was reading I was continually thinking how half the book ought to be rewritten for an australian audience to reflect our differences in political history...even if the outcome was the same and the solution is the same for us as you.

I suspect its not just aussies but all non americans who feel the focus is too american-centric. Were I not already a reader I would have skipped this book.

Anonymous Lord T February 01, 2016 5:37 AM  

I agree with Rhys. SJWAL is useful worldwide. Cuckservative is targeted to the US and although the base principles are probably relevant so much won't be that being based in the UK I decided not to purchase it.

Blogger Sheila4g February 01, 2016 10:20 AM  

@47 automatthew: I loved "Cuckservative" and thought it was far superior to SJWAL. As others have noted, it's hard to share on a kindle. Although I generally don't even talk to SJWs if I can avoid it, I plan on buying a number of paperback copies as gifts.

Blogger Joe A. February 01, 2016 8:44 PM  

Does that mean no physical copy of Cuckservative? :(

Anonymous Tunglet February 16, 2016 4:42 PM  

The ones that know of the cuckservative meme, is not interested in reading the book, they are interested in giving it to others to read.

It's first when the paperback is there, that you can make it into a trend to give the book as a polite message, that the begifted should uncuck themselves.

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