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Tuesday, January 19, 2016

The worst generation


Preach, preacher! I have to admit, I've never noticed the cutlery thing. 

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Blogger Elocutioner January 19, 2016 12:53 PM  

The salt must flow! But it has that weird old people smell to it...

Anonymous bluto January 19, 2016 12:57 PM  

Thinking about it, yeah I have run into a good number of boomers who can't use cutlery, I wonder if it's the result of eating in front of the TV when they were learning how to eat?

Blogger Markku January 19, 2016 1:00 PM  

This was sublime.

Blogger Nick S January 19, 2016 1:00 PM  

Isn't Trump a Boomer?

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 19, 2016 1:02 PM  

Markku, you'll have to restart the countdown.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 1:03 PM  

His use of cutlery is the Eurofag way.

And as per my own criticism of what is wrong with the Boomers, they didn't invent Cultural Marxism, they simply take credit and the blame for it.

The hippies invented fuck all. They didn't even invent hippies.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 1:10 PM  

LOL at defending the boomers by citing Donald Trump.

Blogger CM January 19, 2016 1:13 PM  

@ kfg -

His use of cutlery is the Eurofag way.

Actually, its the American way.

The European way is to put your knife down and change hands with the fork for every bite.

Blogger Jourdan January 19, 2016 1:13 PM  

I'll take this an opportunity to say THANK GOD ONE OF THE FUCKING EAGLES IS DEAD!

I mean, what kind of messed up world do we live in where all the Ramones are dead and the Eagles just go on being Pure Distilled Evil Boomer Shit?

Blogger Markku January 19, 2016 1:13 PM  

Countdown to Meltdown!

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 1:26 PM  

"The European way is to put your knife down and change hands with the fork for every bite."

I am an American who spent time in Europe in the 60's and 70's. I got stared at in Europe for switching hands, and outright ridiculed upon returning to America for continuing the European way same hand way, which makes a damned sight more sense.

But Americans are trying to become Europeans and I guess the Europeans are trying to become Americans.

To the detriment of both.

Blogger Tank January 19, 2016 1:38 PM  

Take it easy
Take it e e e e e asy.

Spin it hamsters.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 1:44 PM  

Look, I'm sorry. I did what I could, but it wasn't enough.
I'm sorry.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 1:54 PM  

Were the Babyboomers the price of American Hubris?

No, they were just spoiled. Their parents went through hell and swore up and down their children were going to have a better life.

Tragically they succeeded.

Humans are built for unsatiated hunger. Give someone everything they want and they fall apart every time.

One thing Gavin left out.

The Boomers invented Fat. Almost no one was fat until they came along.

Blogger Starbuck January 19, 2016 1:58 PM  

Look, I'm sorry. I did what I could, but it wasn't enough.
I'm sorry. Snidley


What have I to be sorry for? I was not in charge, don't have political power, don't even have much for resources. I am like my parents and grandparents. I worked, did what I could, supported my family and had huge blessings from God for my family. We did not become wealthy, but then we didn't become poor either. We went from poor to middle class.

And I think there were a whole lot of people in my generation that was in the same boat. Mt generation is most certainly responsible for the way the country is now. But I didn't cause it and there was no way for me to fix it or help fix it. I am sorry for what my generation did, but I did not follow that crowd.

What can I say? I am not innocent. Nobody is.
But It is amazing the power of one generation.
Can the GenX change it? I do not know.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 19, 2016 2:02 PM  

CM @8: "Actually, its the American way.

The European way is to put your knife down and change hands with the fork for every bite.
"


Agree with kfg. I was raised with the switch-hands way, and same with my wife. I never saw the other way until I was stationed in Europe. Everyone in the restaurants we went to ate the same-hand way, as did our neighbors, and we picked it up from them.

Though it could also be a regional thing in the U.S., too. I am from Michigan and my wife's parents are both from Minnesota. I seem to recall another conversation from someplace that the same-hand method is used in the South (or some other region)...?

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 2:04 PM  

"No, they were just spoiled."

They coasted because they could. Add to that, as was raised in the last thread, they lived under what they felt was the very real threat of nuclear annihilation any minute now.

Make hay while the sun shines.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 2:10 PM  

@15, I doubt that my generation (X) can change it. I was born at the tail end of gen-x, meaning they've been around for a while since I entered the workforce. They still didn't get their shit together.

Blogger JWM January 19, 2016 2:11 PM  

If you from Gen X choose to call us Boomers to account for our mistakes, well and good. To whatever extent the current mess is all my fault, well, I'll own it. Sorry- But know that the day will come when your generation will be called to account for your own faults and failures. Just be as willing to own your mistakes as you are to point out ours, and we're good.

JWM

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 2:13 PM  

JWM, true, but we sure got the short end of the deal after what the boomers wasted.

Blogger Nick S January 19, 2016 2:13 PM  

LOL at defending the boomers by citing Donald Trump.

Why would you think it's a defense? It's not.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 2:15 PM  

"I am from Michigan . . ."

I am a Yankee in the older sense.

" . . .he same-hand method is used in the South . . ."

Louisiana is full of Francofags.*

*For those of the more aspie persuasion in the crowd, please note that I am not exactly being serious in this thread. The presenter being some sort of metro-sexual Eurofag lumberjack stimulates me to either punch him in the face or sarcastically ridicule him, and I'm not in a position to punch him in the face.

Anonymous Discard January 19, 2016 2:15 PM  

Why does anyone care how you hold your fork? Faggy, to say the least.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet January 19, 2016 2:15 PM  

I'm not one to share but...

When announcing our newest addition to the family to a Boomer...

They went off on how in their age women could do what they wanted, they were liberated, and my wife and I should have an open marriage instead of what we were doing...

They gave a happy family this spiel at a baby's birth.

No respect.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 2:21 PM  

I don't get this. Maybe my irony meter is on an insensitive setting.

I'm a boomer (albeit late) and if boomers are self-indulgent, what the hell does that make of these "don't trigger me" clowns?

Everyone born much after the Great Depression is coasting on the institutions that existed during the fabulously entrepreneurial and innovative decades before.

Just as the sons and grandsons of a talented entrepreneur rarely can keep the firm moving ahead the same way, just as the kids of talented celebrities live in the shadows of those parents, those raised in luxuries they didn't themselves earn tend to live dissipative lives full of self-destructive vices.

Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations used to be the axiom. If this applies to societies, too, then I find it funny to see Gen-X'ers or Millennials throwing stones around the glass house.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 2:22 PM  

Dc.sunsets. Of course you don't get it. You're too damned focused on the self.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:24 PM  

I am so amused.

Anonymous pils@ou57.co.uk January 19, 2016 2:24 PM  

Yay. Blame a previous generation for all your ills. It's not your fault ickle babies.

What a poof.


Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:25 PM  

"They gave a happy family this spiel at a baby's birth. "

A baby boomer thinks the world revolves around them?


NO.


WAY.

Blogger RobertT January 19, 2016 2:25 PM  

As a baby boomer I hate to admit it, but I hate them too. But I push it farther back to Roosevelt, or at least to the day all the WWII generation came home from the war and fell in love with Benjamin Spock and his book Baby & Childcare (published in 1946). The feel good generations that infest public schools, black lives matter & SJWs can be traced to back to that book.

http://tomybaby-girl.blogspot.com/2012/03/feel-good-generation.html

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 19, 2016 2:26 PM  

Born 1963 no fat kids in my school but the boomers turned their kids into live stock

Blogger RobertT January 19, 2016 2:27 PM  

As a baby boomer I hate to admit it, but I hate them too. But I push it farther back to Roosevelt, or at least to the day all the WWII generation came home from the war and fell in love with Benjamin Spock and his book Baby & Childcare (published in 1946). The feel good generations that infest public schools, black lives matter & SJWs can be traced to back to that book.

http://tomybaby-girl.blogspot.com/2012/03/feel-good-generation.html

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:28 PM  

"Sorry- But know that the day will come when your generation will be called to account for your own faults and failures"

We have always known that. That is one THE MOST critical differences of X and You.

We know what our faults are and admit them openly. We're nihilists. We're defeatists. We're GIVE NO FUCKS Generation. We dont' want to save the world. We think the whole notion of saving the world is completely retarded.

That is our cross.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 2:28 PM  

Albert J. Nock didn't have glib terms like Boomer, Gen-X, etc., when he wrote Isaiah's Job in 1936.

His insight into the underlying reality of the World-Improvers remains a pillar of understanding, right along with contributions by Spooner, Bastiat, and de la Boetie.

Reading (or in our illiterate times, watching) social commentary is like trying to find good literature underneath all the crap propaganda served up by publishers and producers as entertainment.

Everything today seems to be written by those whose prior credits include writing the screenplay for "Ow, My Balls" included in the documentary Idiocracy.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 2:28 PM  

YAY TWO BOOMER HATE THREADS IN ONE DAY!

Blogger Escoffier January 19, 2016 2:28 PM  

OT: Gourmet Burger Company runs hilarious ads mocking vegetarians and when SJW vegetarians 'protest' they apologize and pull the ads.

http://tinyurl.com/zn5bpfk

Seriously, what percentage of their customer base could possible be vegetarian?

Anonymous Headcannon January 19, 2016 2:29 PM  

@28 "Blame a previous generation for all your ills."

Wonder where they got that from.

Anonymous rienzi January 19, 2016 2:29 PM  

The "switch hands" way of eating was universal from the invention of the fork. Then in the early 1850's the "don't switch hands" way of eating became popular in France, and spread to the rest of Europe. For reasons unknown, the "don't switch hands" method never really caught on in the USA.


Despite its numerous flaws, the boomers can hardly be called the "worst" generation.

I would nominate the generation born in the immediate aftermath of the civil war as the "worst". These darlings gave us the income tax, women's suffrage, direct election of senators, prohibition,the moral pit of the jazz age, the great depression, and the entry into the meaninglessness of WW1. The effects of most all of these things plague us to this very day, a hundred years later. I don't think the boomers will even come close to matching that.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 2:34 PM  

You're too damned focused on the self.

Yeah, tell that to my kids. Every one of which in all statistical probability runs rings around you (since they're all Millennials who are living the traditional American Dream, unlike their idiot peers.)

You want "focused on self?"
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-my-hypothetical-future-kids/

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 19, 2016 2:35 PM  

Before the boomers, people wouldn't reflexively react to defend a whole cohort of people on some justified (statistically significant) criticism just because they are a part of it.

In this we clearly see the nascence of the pathological narcissism that drives the current generation of SJWs. "You cannot say anything bad about any group that I identify with because I'm great and therefore so is any group I identify with."

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:36 PM  

"Everything today seems to be written by those whose prior credits include writing the screenplay for "Ow, My Balls" included in the documentary Idiocracy"

This is not new sugartits. This is what happens when a generation transitions its Great Nation from growing to dying.

It happened with the greeks... multiple arab nations... over exactly the same issues.

You poor Boomers. Everything you believed was a lie. You're not even special. You're just the same old retread making the same old 2000 year old mistakes.

Anonymous Anonymous January 19, 2016 2:41 PM  

Starbuck@15 -

I am a "boomer" only by virtue of my birth date. My life's trajectory has been anything but "boomerish," and I simply let that charge roll off my back. There were those of us out here who did preserve what was good and right and proper, in our life's attitudes, the raising of our families and now them raising their families, so when Gen X-er's and the Mills start pointing fingers, it's not at me. I simply won't permit that.

What will be interesting in all this chatter back and forth will be the concrete steps our new batch of generationals, by whatever name, can do to put a positive mark on things. In guys like Vox and others, I see, as I always did, a continuing hope for the permanent things that matter, not the ethereal dream states many in our generation lived, and some in the newer generations seem destined to do. It's a war that will continue until the Parousia.

Pax - jb

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Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 2:42 PM  

You poor Boomers. Everything you believed was a lie. You're not even special. You're just the same old retread making the same old 2000 year old mistakes.

(Chuckle.) You didn't grasp my Nock reference, did you?

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:48 PM  

"(Chuckle.) You didn't grasp my Nock reference, did you?"

You don't grasp the Glubb reference, did you?

Blogger JWM January 19, 2016 2:49 PM  

@33 Nate: "We dont' want to save the world. We think the whole notion of saving the world is completely retarded."

That made laugh. I thought the very same of all the "save the world" idiots that were running around back in my day. And last I looked, y'all have a few World Savers kicking around in your generation. I think the Millenials, too, have a few courageous World Savers working tirelessly for social justice. World still hasn't been saved, yet, either. Imagine that.

JWM

Anonymous DNW January 19, 2016 2:50 PM  


"We know what our faults are and admit them openly. We're nihilists. We're defeatists. We're GIVE NO FUCKS Generation. We dont' want to save the world. We think the whole notion of saving the world is completely retarded."


We ... we ... we ... Sounds as though you are about ready to link arms and march down the boulevard.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 19, 2016 2:50 PM  

@42. Anonymous
And so you avoid the primary Boomer sin of excusing & defending every single person born in an almost 20 year period across the whole world no matter how stupid or wicked they were just because they are part of that group.

Narcissism nothing more, nothing less.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:51 PM  

"Nate, I do find it amusing that you ape the wise old curmudgeon while addressing people who by the thread are much older and might--just might--have a leg or two up on you."

Might? You're the one who just played the 'statistically likely' card a couple comments ago.

yeah. Someone here may have a leg up on me. The odds of it are just astronomically unlikely.

I'm in my early 40s. I'm a not a 1%er. I'm a 0.5%er. I've got 5 kids... for whom, your kids will be very very lucky to end up working for.

Blogger Austin Ballast January 19, 2016 2:52 PM  

Yes, this is one area where Vox and Nate have their heads up their posteriors a bit.

All boomers are not the ones you mock. I have not been impressed with the ability of most Gen Xers, Millenials or others to fix all these supposed problems. I suppose you will blame Miley Cyrus on Boomers, among many other things.

I have felt like more of a Gen Xer given my career trajectory and life experiences even though I am a boomer by the stats (born in 1962). I came to adulthood long after all this crud was quite in place.

I will not take the blame for others. Feel free to use insults to attempt the idiocy though, that must be the only tool.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 2:57 PM  

Fellow Xer with 5 kids. Who will be running things in 10 to 15 years.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 2:58 PM  

*kids who'll be running in 10 to 15 years.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 2:59 PM  

"We ... we ... we ... Sounds as though you are about ready to link arms and march down the boulevard."

We're talking collectives of which I am a part. What other word do you use?

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:00 PM  

"I will not take the blame for others. Feel free to use insults to attempt the idiocy though, that must be the only tool."

Boomer Snowflake.

How novel.

Anonymous Dirk January 19, 2016 3:01 PM  

Seriously, what percentage of their customer base could possible be vegetarian

Ahh, but they know the question is what percentage of our meat eaters are full of (white) guilt?

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:01 PM  

"Fellow Xer with 5 kids. Who will be running things in 10 to 15 years."

boo yaa!

We'll be discussing arranged marriages later obviously.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 3:01 PM  

I'm in my early 40s. I'm a not a 1%er. I'm a 0.5%er. I've got 5 kids... for whom, your kids will be very very lucky to end up working for.

This is unusually amusing. My chickens are already hatched.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 3:02 PM  

One of the abiding weaknesses attributed to Boomers is an utter disregard for the wisdom of experience.

There must be something in the water these days.

Blogger S1AL January 19, 2016 3:03 PM  

Why don't you guys just whip 'em out already?

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 3:03 PM  

ATTN BOOMERS! We know you're special. And feel the need to NABALT every singe time. Xers don't feel the need to defend our generation. We know our generation sucks.

Anonymous DNW January 19, 2016 3:05 PM  


Was watching an old Canadian documentary on LSD the other day, and trying to figure out how it was that a significant number of ostensibly educated people were seemingly ready to jump off a bridge backwards given the slightest opportunity; and where these pop gurus who were urging them on them, came from.



I enjoy despising those born in the late 1940's and early 50's as much as anyone, especially those who swallowed the "aren't we special" line with a zeal that seemed confined to the commencement speeches of earlier cohorts.

LSD, birth control pills, cultural marxism, feminism, EST, Orgone boxes, self-indulgence and unwarranted self-regard were not phenomena invented by the "boomers"; and a little deep reading from other epoch might reveal just how unexceptional as samples of humanity they were in most regards. Except for those born between 1946 and 1953. Yeah they were really vile ... to the last one.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:07 PM  

"Why don't you guys just whip 'em out already?"

I already did.

Sugartits up there shriveled up.

Anonymous Bird on a Wing January 19, 2016 3:08 PM  

There must be something in the water these days.

Saltwater is so delicious.

Anonymous DNW January 19, 2016 3:08 PM  

"We're talking collectives of which I am a part. What other word do you use?"

I distinguish between an identity and a term for statistical population; and don't usually get emotionally worked up about either.

Blogger S1AL January 19, 2016 3:10 PM  

"I already did.

Sugartits up there shriveled up."

Weird, I didn't see anything...

Anonymous Viidad January 19, 2016 3:11 PM  

I think we can all agree that it will be entertaining to see the Millennials enslaved and whipped in a few more years.

Blogger Marie January 19, 2016 3:11 PM  

"ATTN BOOMERS! We know you're special. And feel the need to NABALT every singe time. Xers don't feel the need to defend our generation. We know our generation sucks."

Same for the Mills. We are pretty sure the most psychologically damaged members of our group are going to go feral. We'll consider our lives a success if we can contain the damage they will cause and save just a little bit of our economy and culture.

Which....by the way.....would be more than what the "good" not-my-problem Boomers did.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:16 PM  

"I distinguish between an identity and a term for statistical population; "

you left out a critical part there chief. tack "of which I am a part" on the end of it.

Then you see why we say we.

I was born in the early 70s.

That makes me generation X.

Try keep up snowflake.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 3:17 PM  

@Viidad

The SJW Millennials will be lucky if theyre enslaved. The rest of us will be rebuilding the country after Civil War 2.0.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:20 PM  

"I think we can all agree that it will be entertaining to see the Millennials enslaved and whipped in a few more years."

Millennials became adults around 2k. what do they call the kids who were born after 2k?

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:22 PM  

So between me, guitarman, and Six we've got a total of 17 kids. More kids than the entire readership of Return of Kings combined.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 3:22 PM  

Shoot, I turned 21 in in Y2K.

I don't think they've named my kids generation yet. Maybe the "Grandparents Screwed Us Over Generation".

Blogger FP January 19, 2016 3:24 PM  

"We're GIVE NO FUCKS Generation. We dont' want to save the world. We think the whole notion of saving the world is completely retarded.

That is our cross."

Reminds me of George Clooney going around the political world trying to get the US or UN to intervene in Darfur. Why didn't he just go use his millions to raise a merc army? Why should my generation go over and fight there? To save the world! Its a good thing!

dc.sunset:"Nate, I do find it amusing that you ape the wise old curmudgeon while addressing people who by the thread are much older and might--just might--have a leg or two up on you."

The classic refrain. Older and wiser. You have a leg or two up? Yeah, its called you sold out your own kids and grand-kids.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 3:24 PM  

How about Rabbi? He's got like 20 kids, right?

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:24 PM  

79... you're ok GM.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 3:25 PM  

@Nate

Homeland Generation. 2005-202?, per Strauss and Howe. Mills are 1982-2004.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 19, 2016 3:25 PM  

@ Nate

"So between me, guitarman, and Six we've got a total of 17 kids. More kids than the entire readership of Return of Kings combined"

You owe me a new keyboard. :-D

Anonymous Gecko January 19, 2016 3:25 PM  

Cute how many boomers can't tell the difference between velocity and acceleration.

Also cute how they laugh.

As LB implicitly noted, "laughing" is SJW for "you are hurting me".

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 19, 2016 3:26 PM  

Millennials became adults around 2k. what do they call the kids who were born after 2k?

Generation Z. You know, as in "the end" or "zombie apocalypse". Seriously.

Blogger S1AL January 19, 2016 3:26 PM  

"Millennials became adults around 2k. what do they call the kids who were born after 2k?"

Nah, 1985-2005. There's a huge split between pre- and post-95. The younger group was raised on social media. They're the pitiable lost generation.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 3:28 PM  

The boomer parents I know had very few kids. Xers and Mills, on the other hand, tend to have a lot if they have any. Post-Boomers are very polarized when it comes to children.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:30 PM  

"Nah, 1985-2005. There's a huge split between pre- and post-95"

See I think the split should be around then too. A kid born in 1982 had nothing in common with a kid born in 1999.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 3:31 PM  

I've noticed the same, David-093. Even up here in NJ.

Anonymous DNW January 19, 2016 3:33 PM  

" 'I distinguish between an identity and a term for statistical population; '

you left out a critical part there chief. tack "of which I am a part" on the end of it."

You are wrong. I didn't leave it out. I quoted it. You need to brush up on your reading skills.


"Then you see why we say we.

I was born in the early 70s.

That makes me generation X.

Try keep up snowflake."

You're pretty emotional for a self-proclaimed "nihilist".

"We know what our faults are and admit them openly. We're nihilists. We're defeatists. We're GIVE NO FUCKS Generation. We dont' want to save the world. We think the whole notion of saving the world is completely retarded."

Yeah, you're quite the little drama queen.

Blogger S1AL January 19, 2016 3:33 PM  

"See I think the split should be around then too. A kid born in 1982 had nothing in common with a kid born in 1999."

Hell, I'm early millennial and I have nothing in common with the second half. Things are progressing so rapidly these days that more changes in 5 years than changed in 20 most of the last century. People my age are starting to become disillusioned with the global order, but the ones heading into college now need safe spaces. It's terrifying.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 3:34 PM  

Theres a core to every generation where the people are the most uniform. For Boomers its 46-57. For Xers its 65-77. For Mills its 85 to 99. The cohort around the edges is where people say they have characteristics of both or that they feel more like one than the other.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:35 PM  

Amazing.. not only are boomers special snowflakes... they cannot imagine someone not snowflaking.

Anonymous bitter clinger 13 January 19, 2016 3:36 PM  

He implies that baby boomer men are the cause of divorces, yet 70% of divorces are initiated by women. Other than that, pretty good.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:36 PM  

"You are wrong. I didn't leave it out. I quoted it. You need to brush up on your reading skills."

No. You quoted a statement where-in it was understood. And you didn't understand it.

Because you're an idiot.

Anonymous Jill January 19, 2016 3:36 PM  

I wish I could respect boomers, but they trained me not to respect my elders/authority. I mean, Twisted Sisters was a band full of boomers.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 3:41 PM  

@Guitarman

I was born in NJ but live in the South now. Its the same here.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 19, 2016 3:43 PM  

Nate freaking owns. It's like watching hurricane footage with people hanging sideways from lampposts and trying their damnedest to laugh at the sky.

Blogger ray January 19, 2016 3:49 PM  

Oh get over it. Your lost and raging generations are still aping the Boomers, even while you condemn them. ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years. You don't even understand why that generation existed, but you just can't wait until everyone better than yourselves DIES because only then blah blah pore-us wah wah You Ruined Everything.

Go text something on your MePhones you narcissistic little whiners. About the great song you would have written except that Glenn Frey and The Boomers made it impossible.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 3:49 PM  

I don't think they've named my kids generation yet. Maybe the "Grandparents Screwed Us Over Generation".

Before Reaxxion went tits up they had a podcast that I found interesting.

This group of alt-right Millennials was discussing the defining traits of generations. What I found intriguing was their point of view.

Boomers: Self-centered

Xers: Absolutely cynical (which they did regard as bad thing)

Millennials: Complete Pussies.

My observation: Each generation finds a unique way to rebel against the generation that came before it.

I am more than passingly curious about how the next generation is going to piss off the Millennials.

Anonymous bitter clinger 13 January 19, 2016 3:51 PM  

Of course, Gavin leaves out the biggest problem with the Boomers. They insist on "getting their's" (Medicare, SS) even knowing full well that it will bankrupt the nation and leave their grandchildren paupers.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:52 PM  

"For Mills its 85 to 99. The cohort around the edges is where people say they have characteristics of both or that they feel more like one than the other. "

And here's my criticism of that position. A kid born in 1985 knows what a VCR is. A kid born in 1999 doesn't.

Anonymous Hartwick January 19, 2016 3:54 PM  

This pretty well sums it up.

https://wronghands1.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/anatomy-of-generations1.jpg

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 3:55 PM  

"Your lost and raging generations are still aping the Boomers, even while you condemn them. ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years. You don't even understand why that generation existed, but you just can't wait until everyone better than yourselves DIES because only then blah blah pore-us wah wah You Ruined Everything."

Boomer. Boomering.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 3:56 PM  

Ray, are you an old hippie still living in Woodstock?

OpenID luciussomesuch January 19, 2016 3:58 PM  

dc.sunsets: "Yeah, tell that to my kids. Every one of which in all statistical probability runs rings around you (since they're all Millennials who are living the traditional American Dream, unlike their idiot peers.)"

You've also bragged that all your children possess +140 IQs. In all statistical probability, that sounds bogus.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 4:00 PM  

One can tell a lot about someone from his or her implicit assumptions. One I noted above was that some men think their children are not much more than an extension of their own will.

Do they each conclude this because they, themselves are extensions of their father's will?

By the way, for a man to refer to another man with the term "sugartits" sounds pretty gay, as in chronic UTI gay.

Blogger Guitar Man January 19, 2016 4:00 PM  

Is dc.sunsets the same guy who bragged about his son getting into a fight at a Wal-Mart?

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 4:01 PM  

@Nate: "Millennials became adults around 2k. what do they call the kids who were born after 2k?"

I am on record as calling them, "Fucked beyond all repair."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 4:03 PM  

They went off on how in their age women could do what they wanted, they were liberated, and my wife and I should have an open marriage instead of what we were doing.

What she was really saying:
"Fucking around on my husband and refusing to have any kids was the right thing to do! It was! You don't get to make me feel regret for my wasted youth and sex appeal by having a kid! It's NOT FAIR!"

Blogger Jeffrey Quick January 19, 2016 4:04 PM  

"my wife and I should have an open marriage instead of what we were doing..."
b 1956. BTDT. And I wonder how anybody who survived to nowish thought that actually worked. Are all their old effbuddies gonna take are of them when they're old?

Blogger FP January 19, 2016 4:05 PM  

Wow... just wow ray. Would I hurt your feelings if I compared the Beatles to New Kids on the Block or Backstreet Boys? But you know, Imagine it.

OpenID luciussomesuch January 19, 2016 4:07 PM  

ray: "Your lost and raging generations are still aping the Boomers, even while you condemn them. ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years."

--"Goldfinger" was in '64, right?

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 19, 2016 4:07 PM  

"Your lost and raging generations are still aping the Boomers, even while you condemn them. ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years. You don't even understand why that generation existed, but you just can't wait until everyone better than yourselves DIES because only then blah blah pore-us wah wah You Ruined Everything."

Millennial here, both your art sucked.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 4:08 PM  

ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years.

Dude, I was there. This is either grand self-delusion or straight up lying. Our generation turned it's back on Truth. Straight-up it refused to acknowledge that Truth even fucking existed. And as for art, while they did not invent the idea or parading ugliness as some sort of self-referential substitute for beauty, they did celebrate ugliness and inversion, and ruthlessly destroyed any artist who refused to play the game.
Even the music was largely sludge.

Anonymous DNW January 19, 2016 4:10 PM  

" ... group of alt-right Millennials was discussing the defining traits of generations. What I found intriguing was their point of view.

Boomers: Self-centered

Xers: Absolutely cynical (which they did regard as bad thing)

Millennials: Complete Pussies.

My observation: Each generation finds a unique way to rebel against the generation that came before it.

I am more than passingly curious about how the next generation is going to piss off the Millennials. "


The video was humorous in a way. Guys with girl hands - that concavity at the palm's edge - probably shouldn't gesticulate so wildly, though. Drawing so much attention to it kills the effect all that exasperated glaring is intended to produce.

He's a funny guy.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 4:10 PM  

"Dude, I was there. This is either grand self-delusion or straight up lying. Our generation turned it's back on Truth. Straight-up it refused to acknowledge that Truth even fucking existed."

THIS!

See this Boomers?

THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 4:12 PM  

"ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years.""

I will go against the trend and agree with you, however, very little if any of it was produced by Boomers.

Blogger CM January 19, 2016 4:13 PM  

@kfg & waterboy - I stand corrected.

I wish I could respect boomers, but they trained me not to respect my elders/authority. I mean, Twisted Sisters was a band full of boomers.

I think I am a Mil, but I'm in that awkward middle area... The oldest child of the youngest Boomers who married young. My parents aren't like this. But my peer group’s parents were.

Its one thing to be disrespectful of hard working parents with ”oppressive and archaic” views and another to be disrespectful of parents who pawned you off on day care and schools, thought The Almighty Paycheck was superior to parenting, divorced, raked ex-spouses through the mud, and tried to keep fitting in their teenagers clothes trying to be BFF instead of much needed parent.

When you are ashamed of being older and go for body upgrades over Wisdom, don't expect respect.

I lucked out in having 3 generations of elders to look up to. Many in my generation do not.

Blogger Desiderius January 19, 2016 4:13 PM  

JWM,

"But know that the day will come when your generation will be called to account for your own faults and failures."

That day's already come - it was the day we were born and each day thereafter.

And it is a great blessing.

It is the curse of the Boomers that they were never so called until it was too late to do anything about it, other than pick up the pieces.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 4:14 PM  

By the way, for a man to refer to another man with the term "sugartits" sounds pretty gay, as in chronic UTI gay.

No hoss...it ain't gay...

Sugar tits

Blogger Desiderius January 19, 2016 4:15 PM  

"I am more than passingly curious about how the next generation is going to piss off the Millennials."

Well they're Silents, so they'll likely find some meritorious Xers to follow dutifully. That'll piss off the Millennial SJWs nicely. Already see this happening.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 4:17 PM  

Boomers are easier to trigger than SJWs

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 4:18 PM  

You've also bragged that all your children possess +140 IQs. In all statistical probability, that sounds bogus.

It's the web. All is illusion. Everyone is the smartest person in their mom's basement. I could be John Scalzi under a pseudonym.

In my case, kids' IQ's are a guess. According to my data, 130 IQ is about the 97th percentile and my kids all perform at about a 1:400 or better ratio.

The only one who took 8 semesters to get a STEM degree was the one on an all-expenses-paid, non-need scholarship. The fastest was 5 semesters. The one who took 7 semesters did so with a 4.0 and 5 years after graduation is already listed on an international patent (applied for by a household name multinational.)

It's not bragging, it's statement of chickens hatched, that's all. I've seen plenty of my kids' peers, including those bathed in high expectations, crash and utterly burn.

This is why I find so much of this amusing.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 4:19 PM  

@19 JWM

"If you from Gen X choose to call us Boomers to account for our mistakes, well and good. To whatever extent the current mess is all my fault, well, I'll own it. Sorry- But know that the day will come when your generation will be called to account for your own faults and failures. Just be as willing to own your mistakes as you are to point out ours, and we're good."

The kids today love us. They have 80's night in the clubs once a week right now. The music alone that we contributed is enough to overcome anything you Boomers have done. Not to mention the clothes and attitude.

And if you're not down with that I've got two words for ya!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHvjhgjDF-s

Blogger ray January 19, 2016 4:20 PM  

Wah. Your Generation took all the good songs for itself. Selfish bastids waaaaaahh! Our Generations could have written songs ten times better, except that rat-bastard Glenn Frey ruined everything by writing them first. Fucking evil Boomers! ha ha but all their heroes are dying, ha ha! therefore let us take solace in hate, as we have solidarity in naught else.

Geez no wonder you named all your bands Poisoned Daffodils and such. But, I'm sure now the road is clearing, y'all will set everything to right. :O)

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 4:20 PM  

No hoss...it ain't gay...

Sugar tits


I need the call from BigGaySteve. Where's the line judge when you need him?

Anonymous DNW January 19, 2016 4:22 PM  

" By the way, for a man to refer to another man with the term "sugartits" ..."


Once an emotionally overwrought guy starts sputtering insults, you never know what he'll let slip.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet January 19, 2016 4:23 PM  

Nate,

what state are you in again?

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 19, 2016 4:24 PM  

@ Josh

only if they touch. Milo might have a better handle on that.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 19, 2016 4:26 PM  

Is dc.sunsets the same guy who bragged about his son getting into a fight at a Wal-Mart?

Must have missed that. No, neither I nor my kids shop at Wally's Mexican World. Costco yes, Nordstrom yes, and of course, Toys R Us.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 4:27 PM  

"The kids today love us. They have 80's night in the clubs once a week right now."

At least you're on track, which is rare for a Boomer. I have pointed out before that the 60's were not the decade of the Boomers, the 80's were.

Now all you 80's kids out there don't get your panties in a twist, every generation tends to think of the time of their childhood as great, but the 80's, the time when the Boomers were making, not just following the culture, was the armpit of human cultural history.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 4:27 PM  

ya know one of the most Boomer of the Boomerisms got completely left out of this video. How could he not mention the boomer obsession with TV? Seriously a boomer cannot deal with a TV not being turned on. They walk in a room and the TVs off the whole world stops until it comes on.

And who else but boomers will sit and talk to you about what happened on some idiotic tv show last night?

Like we care?

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 4:29 PM  

"what state are you in again? "

Roll Tide.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 4:29 PM  

Is dc.sunsets the same guy who bragged about his son getting into a fight at a Wal-Mart?

You are thinking of Tiny Tim. He was banned a while back.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 4:32 PM  

@126 kfg

"I have pointed out before that the 60's were not the decade of the Boomers, the 80's were.

Now all you 80's kids out there don't get your panties in a twist, every generation tends to think of the time of their childhood as great, but the 80's, the time when the Boomers were making, not just following the culture, was the armpit of human cultural history."


Bullshit. You fucking Boomers cried about Ozzie Osbourne's music having backwards messages and causing kids to commit suicide. And the punk music in the 80's made you all shit your pants.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 4:32 PM  

@127 Nate

A-fucking-men.

I do love my in-laws. They are good people but they have a TV in every room and it's always playing FoxNews.

Blogger Josh January 19, 2016 4:33 PM  

Ray...

We get it...Y'all wrote the bestest songs in history...No one will ever come close to matching your genius...

An example of your generation's unparalleled genius..."imagine" by John Lennon.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 4:35 PM  

I've been on motorcycle rides with Boomers.. I swear to God they walk into a hotel room we just checked into... all their gear still on.. the very first thing they do is find the remote and turn the tv on. I mean they will sit on the bed with their riding jacket on, helmet in hand, and stare at the TV. Like their bike is gonna unpack itself.

Anonymous Mel Gibson January 19, 2016 4:36 PM  

Sugar Tits is fine. Carry on, (((guys))).

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 4:37 PM  

@132 Josh

This isn't our usual ray. I think this is the one I spammed and banned at my own blog a while back.

Dull, boring and tedious.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 4:38 PM  

""ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years.""

Are you kidding? The youngest of the Xers and the Millennials together have produced more and better artwork than anything the Boomers or the previous generations of the 20th century accomplished. And all of it was self-taught.

@Nate

"And here's my criticism of that position. A kid born in 1985 knows what a VCR is. A kid born in 1999 doesn't."

I disagree with that. Based on my time working at a youth church, the 95-2000 cohort very much understands pre-95 entertainment and culture. 80s-born Millennials love to talk about the entertainment we grew up with on Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and Diseny before they were completely pozzed, Goosebumps, the Disney Renaissance era, VCRs, Gameboys, but the post-95 crowd loves that stuff too.

But more to the point, the core of the generation (ie. the people that define that generation, what that generation's personality is known as, etc) is not just defined by entertainment, but by the Turning it experiences in its formative years. Since Civic-types experience the Crisis as young adults, their generational personality is most completed during the Crisis. Xers were developed pre-Crisis usually by an Unraveling-era war that, inevitably, is viewed unfavorably (French and Indian War, Mexican-American War, WW1, GWOT, for instance).

Millennials are useless pussies right now, by and large, but the GI generation was seen the same way pre- World War II. After that they were viewed as competent, intelligent, mature, and gigantic. Millennials may be viewed similarly, if this Crisis is a "win" for America (or the American countries).

Blogger automatthew January 19, 2016 4:39 PM  

I'd like to thank Team Boomer for showing up in force today and making our job easier by promptly and energetically scoring an incredible series of own goals.

Blogger David-093 January 19, 2016 4:40 PM  

"Seriously a boomer cannot deal with a TV not being turned on."

My mom is one of the youngest of the Boomers, and she watches TV more than the rest of my siblings combined.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 4:47 PM  

"I'd like to thank Team Boomer for showing up in force today and making our job easier by promptly and energetically scoring an incredible series of own goals."

I would particularly like to thank the Boomer that brought up the fantastic art of his generation.

Take a bow.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 4:47 PM  

@130: Ozzy was a Boomer. Q.E.D.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 4:47 PM  

"My mom is one of the youngest of the Boomers, and she watches TV more than the rest of my siblings combined. "

how could you make this video and miss that? The television is the center of a boomer's life.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2016 4:51 PM  

@139 Nate

I would particularly like to thank the Boomer that brought up the fantastic art of his generation.

Take a bow.


Indeed.

Have you ever listened to "Wall of Sound" music on modern audio equipment?

Exquisite!!!

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 4:56 PM  

@140 kfg

Ozzy was just one example of many. Twister Sister, 2 Live Crew, Danzig, Motley Crue, Prince, Guns and Roses etc etc.

The point is obviously that you Boomers tried to silence free speech in a typical SJW fashion by stamping records as "explicit language".

The train is fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veoYcsH7Wrs

Anonymous Headcannon January 19, 2016 4:57 PM  

Boomers still throwing tempter tantrums into their twilight years. Your parents at least went out with dignity.

Another thing they were better at than you.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 4:59 PM  

@Nate: "Seriously a boomer cannot deal with a TV not being turned on."

Gooooooooal! But I'd point out that that is a natural consequence of the primal smartphone technology being so cumbersome.

@Cataline Sergius:

The original Wall of Sound was a PA system invented by Owsley. The recording style known as the Wall of Sound was invented by Spector.

They were both born in '39.

Blogger James Dixon January 19, 2016 5:04 PM  

Yet another typical "don't blame us" set of responses by the boomers. I was born in 58. The boomers like to claim me as their own.

So, as a claimed boomer, the boomers were absolutely the worst generation to ever walk the face of the earth. The only thing they even remotely got right was music, and even there they were often too stoned to ever appreciate it.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 5:16 PM  

@143 sigbouncer:

I have triggered you into reacting exactly as the Boomers are reacting, in knee jerk defense of things you think of as your own that you had no part in creating.

Please note that everything done by members of every generation are things done by that generation. Everything that has ever been done has been done by every generation that has ever existed.

The anti-modern music movement was well under way in the time of Strauss the Younger and the anti-rock movement (which was really anti-black music) goes back to at least Joplin.

And your jerking knee is arguing that the Boomers were the upholders of traditional values and culture.

Did they uphold them, or did they destroy them?

Pick a side.

Blogger SciVo January 19, 2016 5:26 PM  

@ Catalina Sergius: I am more than passingly curious about how the next generation is going to piss off the Millennials.

Obviously, by being badasses.

Anonymous Who Dat January 19, 2016 5:31 PM  

So do we need to schedule a brainstorm to start setting up arranged marriages for Ilk children or just bring our families to the next VFM meeting? I still have quite a few years to vet potential suitors but it seems like the kind of thing you don't want to put off for too long...

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 5:32 PM  

@147 kfg

I already did.

What do you not understand about the First Amendment to the US Constitution? That's your problem right there Boomer.


Here you go Boomer. Watch your generation versus mine. How does it make you feel? Still self righteous are ya?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBQi0lCkORE

Blogger SciVo January 19, 2016 5:54 PM  

You know, speaking as a Gen-Xer, I have to give the Millennials their props for being great entertainers and epicureans. We've been living in a golden age of indie rock since the mid-oughts, and they make great bartenders and baristas. Kudos.

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 5:56 PM  

@71 Nate -

I'm a little late to the party, but count me another X'er with 5 kids...so far

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 6:14 PM  

@150:

At this point I'm having trouble even understanding what you're on about, and Dee Snider is a Boomer and the members of Congress he was squaring off against were not.

But I'll help you strap Tipper Gore (not a member of Congress) into the ducking chair if it will make you happy. It would certainly put a grin on my face.

Anonymous John Wilkes Booth January 19, 2016 6:19 PM  

Dad was a Silent - one of the best men I ever knew. Hardworking, diligent, conscientious, etc. He was also lots of fun to be around. He was a late Silent, born in '42.

Mom was a Boomer, born in '47. Narcissistic, concerned about herself. Did as little as possible, unless it was "fun." Once told me not to go into Christian ministry, and I quote, because "there is not enough money in it."
Now, I love both of my parents. I really do. I miss both of them and would love to give my mom one more hug, but they are a perfect example of the difference that 5 years makes.

Me? Just another X'er with 3 kids. I agree with Nate (and the others) about Boomers. Ready for them to get out of the way and go bitch about the apple sauce in the Nursing Home.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 19, 2016 6:20 PM  

@93. ray January 19, 2016 3:49 PM

Oh get over it. Your lost and raging generations are still aping the Boomers, even while you condemn them. ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years.

I just finished reading "Loki's Child". The exquisite detail on how completely jacked up radio music has become is worth the price of the book.

If you look at the 'art' timeline; the bands in the 60's were born in the 30's & 40's; i.e. early Boomers at best.

Boomer bands gave us Disco for art; Boomer record companies gave us AutoTune.

Anonymous Cheddarman January 19, 2016 6:23 PM  

Nate, you deny that you have a calling to preach...if this ain't preachin, I don't know what is....and by the way, the amen corner says you are bringin' it!!!

Anonymous John Wilkes Booth January 19, 2016 6:25 PM  

As for Boomer Music...honestly, once they started going mainstream, music started sucking. Good old Rock 'n Roll was done by the Silents (Elvis, etc.). The mid 60s is about my cut off for listenable stuff. There are few good songs here and there, but they are the exception, not the rule, until the 80s.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 6:55 PM  

@153 kfg

Non sequitur on Snider as he simply represented Gen X musicians at the hearing. Look up the PMRC's filthy fifteen and tell me how many Boomers are on it.

This was an obvious attack on new music from Gen X by you Boomers and you full well know it.

Al and Tipper Gore are both Boomers. End of discussion.

Blogger Sean Carnegie January 19, 2016 7:00 PM  

Ya know, I never thought us Canadians had an accent.

Then I watched this. I'll never argue the other side again. Wow, Gavin's all Canadian, eh?

Blogger tweell January 19, 2016 7:08 PM  

As a boomer, I've thought about how things went so wrong. One indicator to me is that the Boomer elites never went to war. Before this, there was a decent percentage of the VIP men in the military in time of war. From Boomer on, the elites have been sending other families to die, not their own. Al Gore was an anomaly, and he had a cushy rear job along with a bodyguard. Look at the Bushes - H.W. was a bomber pilot, not a safe place at all. W. was a National Guard pilot, that was unusually martial for a Boomer elite.

I'll crib from Heinlein: Roman matrons used to say to their sons: “Come back with your shield, or on it.” Later on this custom declined. So did Rome.

As Rome, so the USA. I hope this can be turned around. As I've told my children, good luck and sorry about you guys getting the sh_tty end of the stick.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 19, 2016 7:23 PM  

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Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 7:29 PM  

"I'm a little late to the party, but count me another X'er with 5 kids...so far"

HELL YES! Congratulations and well done. Train them up right.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 7:32 PM  

@161

"because all I remember from the 80s is the A team reruns, Saturday morning cartoons, Nintendo etc.."

You might as well as been living in a cave with Ted Kaczynski if that's all you got from the 80's.

Blogger GracieLou January 19, 2016 7:34 PM  

The TeeVee!! Husband is early boomer. I'm first year X. Love the man, but the TV is a bone of contention. He watches EVERYTHING. ALL THE TIME. Uncritically. I can't stand it! I say, "You do know Madame Secretary is agitprop for Hilary Clinton, right? Just like President Palmer. Everybody thought they were getting President Palmer and ended up with Obamanation." All's he knows is Tea Leoni is pretty. He didn't even notice the "pinch of incense to Zeus" gay nod they put in everything until I pointed it out. He also can't fathom another human being not liking the TeeVee, so even when he goes to bed or chops wood he leaves it on. I'm trapped reading Vox with the idiot box on and the remote is missing somewhere. It's maddening! I've turned into a paranoid harpy, "Are you leaving? When are you coming back? Then WHY is the TV on? DON'T LEAVE ME WITH THE TV ON!!"

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 19, 2016 7:36 PM  

I can tell you one thing that separates the Boomers from the Greatest, Silents, and X'ers. The Boomers un-ironically said follow your dream and that it didn't matter what your degree was in.

They also talked about how important self esteem was in regards to the development of a child and that the most important thing they could instill was confidence. Not discipline, not a respect for tradition, not a work ethic, fucking confidence.

You know what is most damning of all? The fact that there are websites out there, created by the younger X'ers and older Millenials, lamenting about that no one taught them how to be men and now they are learning how to do it on their own.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 7:39 PM  

"Non sequitur on Snider as he simply represented Gen X musicians at the hearing."

Dee Snider was principally representing Dee Snyder. If you wish to hear someone go up against congress on real principle, this is the guy you should pay attention to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxB-ZePpS7E

And that guy was not a Boomer. He's too old.

"Look up the PMRC's filthy fifteen and tell me how many Boomers are on it."

Even Vanity and the Mary Jane Girls. You've totally jumped off the credibility cliff there.

"This was an obvious attack on new music from Gen X by you Boomers and you full well know it."

I know you're making that shit up out of defensive reflex, just as the Boomers make up the Beatles, Dylan and Hendrix as their own music, just because the listened to it.

They fuck all to do with creating it.

My Chemical Romance is a Gen-X group, and I actually perform some of their stuff. I stay far away from Boomer Sheena Easton's material.

"Al and Tipper Gore are both Boomers. End of discussion."

Very SJW of you.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet January 19, 2016 7:40 PM  

SciVo

We've been living in a golden age of indie rock since the mid-oughts, and they make great bartenders and baristas.

This is simply not true. These kids pretend to know booze and food, but their knowledge is usually superficial and embarrassing. Vox's Thanksgiving video summed their knowledge up well on food: kissy-faced searches for the right word and instagram photos. Do they know wine? Or Scotch? No, but plenty about BS "craft" cocktails with muddled raspberries.

And what great music have they given us? Arcade Fire? Total shit.

Blogger Rantor January 19, 2016 7:44 PM  

My wife and I just watched this, hilarious. She is a German boomer and I think things were different there. Plus she can cook and we haven't divorced. My mom, though a silent, has almost all the traits of the boomers.

Blogger Nick S January 19, 2016 7:51 PM  

Gracie, you know that thing that snakes out of the back of the television and goes into a rectangular shaped object on the wall? Pull on it.

OpenID sigbouncer January 19, 2016 7:55 PM  

@166

Yeah the discussion is over on my end when you can't be truthful about the fight. This doesn't apply to Vox's signs of an SJW, but nice try.

@153 "Dee Snider is a Boomer and the members of Congress he was squaring off against were not."

This was Tipper and Al's baby and everyone but evidently you knows it. And it was all about the First Amendment and the right to free speech. Due to the changing times musically brought about from Gen X (11 of the filthy fifteen).

Have a good one Boomer. Keep supporting the SJW's that your generation created.

The train is fine.

Blogger epobirs January 19, 2016 7:57 PM  

One big problem with all of this is the 18 year spread involved. I'm a tail end boomer, July 1964. My sister, 12 years older, comes from a very different experience than me. I barely remember major events from the late 60s and owe as much of my perception of them to historical accounts as anyone born much later. My only real claim is that I can recall hearing these things discussed by adults or on the news when I was a small child. My sister, on the other hand, went from 8 to 18 in that decade and thus was far more aware and shaped by those events.

Yet we're both supposedly out of same generational mold?

Anonymous A Reader January 19, 2016 8:00 PM  

Excellent video. Some further observations on the Boomers and the Vietnam War.

Those that were involved in the anti-Vietnam War movement like to think of themselves as idealistic. But they were acting purely out of self interest: they didn't want to be drafted. Also, males went to anti-war protests looking to get laid. Its been pointed out that when the draft ended, there was no more protests or campus unrest, even though the Vietnam War was was still going on. So much for their "idealism".

I'm a GenXer (b. 1971). In work and school, I've interacted with the GI generation, the Silents, Boomers, genres, Millennials. I get along least with Boomers. I get along fine with everyone else. I hear my Millennial co-workers trash the Boomers. They call the Boomer generation "selfish." I can sympathize with Millennials. The cost of college tuition today, compared to when I went 25 years ago, astounds me. The Boomers have contributed to govt debt, because, since they are now heading into retirement, want their Social Security and Medicare. One time a Millennial co-worker griped about the taxes on his paycheck. I said to him, sarcastically, "But its going to social programs like Social Security and Medicaid!" "Bah," he said.




Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 8:06 PM  

"This was Tipper and Al's baby . . . And it was all about the First Amendment and the right to free speech."

Certainly. Except to Dee Snyder, a self-absorbed Boomer cunt. To him it was all about him and his money. You can't even tell when I'm on your side.

Blogger IsMishe January 19, 2016 8:11 PM  

I'm gonna be 57 in 7 days. One thing I have learned in all of those years is that the people who need enemies the most are the people you should fear the most. You guys just keep beating your grandparents to death. Me. I am out of here. And - FUCK YOU TOO.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 8:15 PM  

@171:"One big problem with all of this is the 18 year spread involved. I'm a tail end boomer, July 1964."

I usually break it down to those who remember changing the flags and those who don't. In some cases it might be those who remember the JFK assassination and those who don't.

The pre and post are very different. You have more in common with Vox than you do with your own sister.

@172: "I've interacted with the GI generation, the Silents, Boomers, genres, Millennials. I get along least with Boomers."

Ditto. When they were young they were often hanging out where the cool stuff was happening, but that's because they were mindless followers of the bright colours. When they grew up, they turned boring beige.

They appear to be colourful in retrospect only because they were reflecting the light of others.

Blogger weka January 19, 2016 8:16 PM  

@176. The eighties were not the armpit of human history. They were the beginning of political correctness and the end of true education, but the 1970s produced Slade. I rest my case.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 8:19 PM  

"The eighties were not the armpit of human history."

I didn't say they were the armpit of human history. That would have been WWI.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 8:22 PM  

" I am out of here. And - FUCK YOU TOO"

yeah that's a shame.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 8:25 PM  

Addendum: The relevant that that Al and Tipper have in common relevant to the subject is not that they are Boomers, but that they were both born in D.C.

Inside the Beltway babies.

Blogger GracieLou January 19, 2016 8:26 PM  

But Nick S, that's SO much effort. They don't call us "slackers" for nothing.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 8:27 PM  

And the formation of the latter suggests that it's time I sign out for a while.

Anonymous Viidad January 19, 2016 8:32 PM  

Five minutes of a random Beevis and Butthead episode has more cultural value than the entire Cheech and Chong catalog.

Anonymous Viidad January 19, 2016 8:35 PM  

"More kids than the entire readership of Return of Kings combined."

And we're way damned sexier.

Blogger Thomas Rank January 19, 2016 8:59 PM  

I was born in the peak year of the boomers, '57. I won't defend this generation because I can't, and don't want to. In fact, I can add one more to the list of things we ruined. The boomers ruined church. I've been a pastor for 30 years, in a small confessional Lutheran church body. I have seen what many in my generation have done in order to "make the church better." We've pandered to our society in the form of "church growth." We have taken one of the richest traditions of church music in the past millennium (the tradition that includes Bach) and exchanged it for praise bands, etc. We have decided that to tolerate is better than actual teaching of sin and repentance and grace. It is sad generation.

My wife and I have been blessed with 6 children and 8 grandchildren. One of our sons serves in the Army right now, as did my father and grandfather and great-grandfather. I graduated from HS the spring when Saigon fell. I remember the riots in the late 60s and early 70s (those born in the first decade or so of the boomers). But I think the early boomers were different from those of my later boomers. The draft ended for me and my contemporaries. We never had to register. Not sure how that impacted me, but I'm sure it did.

Selfishness is nothing new to any generation, but we managed to make it our own version. Although, I must add that whatever generation is in their 70s right now (the WW2 babies), were not so great either. They were the ones who came to age in the late 50s and early 60s. Not such a stellar group there, either. Listen to "Officer Krupke" from "West Side Story" for a nice summary of what they were going through. :)

Blogger Unknown the Elder January 19, 2016 9:00 PM  

Thanks for drawing my attention to Gen Xs Andy Rooney. Too bad he doesn't have enough of a back story to understand when things happened. Apparently for him history started in 1980 or 1990. Baby boomers did not invent divorce or man-hating feminism. That was invented by "the greatest generation" and boomers had to live with it. Same with screwed up education. As to immigration, that was started back up in 1965. The oldest boomers in 1965 were only 19 and did not even have the vote. Again, blame it on the greatest generation. I understand that Mr. Novarooney loves him the greatest generation. I love them, too. But I think there's a little of the reason why grandparents and grandchildren get along so well at work here: they have a common enemy.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 19, 2016 9:40 PM  

Ignoring boomers isn't the same thing as ignoring wise elders.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 9:45 PM  

@185 et al: "Too bad he doesn't have enough of a back story to understand when things happened. Apparently for him history started in 1980 or 1990."

When it appears that I am defending Boomers, what is more likely is that I am addressing this issue.

"The oldest boomers in 1965 were only 19 and did not even have the vote."

And yet I have seen them blamed for Kennedy. For that matter, I have seen Kennedy accused of being one of them.

Probably not by most X-ers, but most Millennials seem to have no sense of history at all.

Go ahead, accuse Boomers for what they are and what they have done. I'll probably agree. The problem is that when you examine the actual record, with a real historical sense, there is no there there. The movers and shakers of the cultural shift were almost all from previous generations.

What you are left with is accusing them of what they haven't done. Which is just about everything, except taking credit for it.

Blogger Nate January 19, 2016 9:48 PM  

"And yet I have seen them blamed for Kennedy. For that matter, I have seen Kennedy accused of being one of them."

You're actually quite right. Kennedy should get enormous blame. And you're also correct that boomers shouldn't be held accountible for what they had no control over.

Its the same argument I make on behave of X today. Boomers should get the blame for what was going on in the 80s (and even then on the later 80s when they really got power) the 90s (clinton was a boomer) and 2000s. X just started taking over in say 2010.

Blogger dfordoom January 19, 2016 9:51 PM  

ONE year in the Sixties produced more truth and real art than the entire Resentment-o-Thon of the past twenty years.

Actually there has not been much great art, literature or music produced in the past hundred years. The rot set in with the rise of modernism and that started before the First World War.

It's the generation born in the 1880s that caused the trouble. Clowns like Picasso (born 1881) who ushered in an age of ugliness, squalor, misery and degradation in art. And it was monstrous creatures like communist feminist Sylvia Pankhurst (born 1882) who began the degradation of politics. And America's first socialist president, FDR (the man who saved the Soviet Union), was born in the 1880s.

Other worthless products of the 1880s include Virginia Woolf and D. H. Lawrence. And James Joyce.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 9:58 PM  

"X just started taking over in say 2010."

And I'd be really interested in seeing how they handle WWIII, and what they're like on the other side, but I expect to be one of the casualties.

Blogger dfordoom January 19, 2016 10:02 PM  

@130. sigbouncer

You fucking Boomers cried about Ozzie Osbourne's music having backwards messages and causing kids to commit suicide. And the punk music in the 80's made you all shit your pants.

Punk was Boomer music. I was there. I'm a Boomer and I was a punk. The music of the 60s had little to do with the Boomers. The music of the Boomers was Glam Rock, and then Punk. And, may God forgive us, disco. Boomers have much to be embarrassed about. Every generation for the past century or so has much to be embarrassed about.

Anonymous Nate2ofX January 19, 2016 10:02 PM  

"it's like you're in jail at a Bread Factory"

Best line.

Anonymous kfg January 19, 2016 10:08 PM  

"Every generation for the past century or so has much to be embarrassed about."

Fucking Rousseau, Man.

Blogger Halifax Donair January 19, 2016 10:16 PM  

@18 The workforce has changed more in the past 20 years than the past 200. Humans can't keep up with whatever pop management style the boss is using this week, and with the contract/401K culture, no loyalty is shown or expected... except some employers are greedy fucks and it's funny to see them refuse to pay market wages and then complain muh work ethic.

Blogger Unknown the Elder January 19, 2016 10:17 PM  

@Nate. I'll gladly take credit for helping put Reagan in office in the 80's, but I'm not so sure about the Clintons. That was largely a product of Ross "They're Coming to Take Me Away" Perot, and I'm pretty sure his main appeal was not just to the boomers.

As for Obama, well crap happens, especially when there is an across the board break down of good sense, from college students on up through Octogenarians. I also don't think Xers have come into their own, yet. Even boomers have tended not to have control of the reigns of govt very much: Bill Clinton (b. 1946 - just barely a boomer), Mitch McConnell (b. 1942), John Boehner (b. 1949 - just barely a boomer), Nancy Pelosi (b. 1940), and Harry Reid (b. before dirt), G.W. Bush (b. 1946 - again just barely a boomer). Moreover, much of the 80's silliness, like school desegregation, was forced on younger school age boomers by previous generations. Probably boomers kept bad trends going and in many cases made them worse. Perhaps later generations are doing the same and will be called out for it.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 19, 2016 10:18 PM  

X is a nomad generation. Grant, Sherman and Patton we're all nomads from earlier generations. Attrition and atrocity are useful tools to nomads

Blogger SS January 19, 2016 10:29 PM  

@195 - Clinton was the product of HW Bush being a terrible president. If he hadn't gone off the rails so far from his predecessor, Perot would not have tried to dethrone him

Blogger Unknown the Elder January 19, 2016 10:34 PM  

@197 Agreed, HW "No New Taxes" Bush was awful or at least mediocre, and what you say is true in the limit. But the reality was that Perot kept a mediocre president from getting reelected and got a truly awful man elected. Bill Clinton is Ross Perot's legacy.

Blogger Jack Aubrey January 19, 2016 10:52 PM  

Magic dirt? Doesn't exist.

Magic years? That's some heap powerful juju.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2016 10:59 PM  

I never thought Bill Clinton was all that bad. He was more of a conman than an ideologue, and certainly better than either of the two that followed him.

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