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Saturday, February 06, 2016

Mailvox: stampeding the sheep

It's amazing to see how the media was able to whip up a fearstorm on the basis of absolutely nothing, not even a dubious accusation.
I'm a long time lurker at your site. Today i got a panicked call from my daughter who goes to Boston University. The rumor on campus is that a dangerous group of men were planning to form a mob and rape women this evening. She wanted to know what to do to be safe. She sent me this link from facebook

I assured her that it was a hoax and that she had nothing to worry about from Roosh and company.

I thought that you might be interested to see this going around social media and that students are genuinely concerned.
This may be the most cogent argument against female suffrage ever presented. Especially considering that many, if not most, of the same young women will blithely insist that importing one million Muslim migrants can't possibly cause any problems.

One would think these easily stampeded young women would be far more concerned about a man who has written about his own stalkerish tendencies. And remember, we have been reliably informed that "writing something that shows you're a horrible person and then proclaiming "it's satire!" neither makes it satire or excuses you."


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106 Comments:

Anonymous 5343 February 06, 2016 5:39 AM  

Unless she goes to a Boston University campus in Cologne, she's probably just fine.

Blogger vashine February 06, 2016 5:44 AM  

cuts... both... ways...

OpenID douchebagdeluxe February 06, 2016 5:56 AM  

"Today i got a panicked call from my daughter who goes to Boston University. The rumor on campus is that a dangerous group of men were planning to form a mob and rape women this evening. She wanted to know what to do to be safe."

The lack of critical thinking from this young collegiate woman is scary.

"Especially considering that many, if not most, of the same young women will blithely insist that importing one million Muslim migrants can't possibly cause any problems."

Baffling. The deck is stacked so high against us that I feel like giving up ... I just want to cry at the state of the world ... or shoot all the boomers who have 1. fucked up everything that we were or used to stand for 2. couldn't even raise proper thinking individuals.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 06, 2016 6:18 AM  

No way around it. This one was special.

I didn't think that Roosh could get more negative press than he already does. My mistake. The Hivemind really took it to eleven this time.

Roosh and the people that work for him, might be going to jail trumped up charges and I'm not joking.

Matt Forney was getting all kinds of death threats. Admittedly they weren't exactly credible death threats but still the promises to "stab his rapin ass" were being made.

The Daily Mail outright lied about Roosh living in his Mom's basement. There were pictures of the cops coming round to his parents house when he was there. That always means someone got tipped, usually it's the cops that tip the press but in this case I am actually wondering if he got SWATed by the Daily Mail.

Freedom of Assembly is now a thing of the past in this country.

Blogger Mark Citadel February 06, 2016 6:39 AM  

This is a great example of turning their logic against them. The Roosh reversal, and it implicates Scalzi perfectly. Then again, the effectiveness is dampened by the fact that the left does not need to be consistent. They indeed did turn this latest spectacle of totalitarianism up to 11. I just put out an article concerning it.

http://citadelfoundations.blogspot.com/2016/02/the-crackdown-has-begun.html

The soft totalitarianism is now over, and they will marshal everything from the Australian navy to mobs of Scottish drunkards to shut down something as innocuous as a few men meeting for drinks! The media across the globe republished the same lies over and over again, a campaign of personal destruction that I haven't really seen at this level before.

All the more reason to hit back, and never stop hitting them.

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 6:45 AM  

The media across the globe republished the same lies over and over again, a campaign of personal destruction that I haven't really seen at this level before.

Actually, it's exactly the same model they followed in their global attack on Sad Puppies last year.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 06, 2016 6:46 AM  

The soft spot of a cult is not the central node it's the followers.

Here is the response to girly head full of mush, "You really believe that stupid shit you read written by those lying assholes, and if you do please provide some fucking evidence."

Blogger Phillip George February 06, 2016 6:50 AM  

Doesn't Tom Cruise play a Roosh in the film Magnolia? Quite a while since I've seen it. A million covert rapists Vs one overt philanderer riding a five minutes of fame money trail doing black hat villainy impersonation tour. That, in itself, is kind of funny.

Again not all Christians are intellectuals, but all intellectuals are Christians. Everyone else is stupefied. That's a technical variation of gen x,y,z zombified, dead men walking in prison slang. [the post would have worked better without Mr Sclazi - or is it gender fluid - deoxygenate!]

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 06, 2016 6:50 AM  

Scalzis weak spot is not him even though he is weakness personified but his weakness has been turned into a bit of anti-fragility, my ex gamma part of my personality clued me into that. The weak spot to Scalzi is his little grouplet, and right now it is painless for them to support their "woman improver", make it emotionally painful and they go away, they're weak and totally fucked up people.

Blogger Escoffier February 06, 2016 6:51 AM  

What blew my mind is that a young Marine acquaintance of mine passed along a Facebook link a the headline accusing Roosh of being a rapist. I was like lol wut? I doubt I'll say anything as he is almost perfectly fact proof.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 06, 2016 6:54 AM  

FTR the much despised Laguna Beach Fogey is defending Roosh and his work over at RADIX from the WN sperg pedestalers of "magik white womenz."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 06, 2016 6:56 AM  

One last post, thanks for your patience, #10 you new here?

IMO if young Marine skull full of mush is "fact proof" he is rhetorical vulnerable.

Anonymous Adam February 06, 2016 7:01 AM  

You know, I've never seen a photo of Scalzi before now. That's the evil nemesis. I'm kinda stunned. That's the sort of photo that would make healthy kittens eat each other.

Blogger FALPhil February 06, 2016 7:08 AM  

The lack of critical thinking from this young collegiate woman is scary.

If she went to government run schools, then you should not be surprised. The authorities have not taught critical thinking skills in those institutions since the late 1960s.

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly February 06, 2016 7:15 AM  

@Vox
Actually, it's exactly the same model they followed in their global attack on Sad Puppies last year.


Perhaps but nowhere near the same level. I live in Australia and I heard it on the radio then it was on the tv news and then some politician is talking about rejecting Roosh's visa. Sad puppies didn't make any news here I know of. There is more outrage and airtime about this here than Cologne received.

I do wonder whether part of the reason the offendatrons is pushing this so hard is to distract from muslim rapes in europe. A case of "see conservatives are the real rapists".

Anonymous Steve February 06, 2016 7:23 AM  

The last time I saw the media engage in such a blatantly orchestrated smear campaign against one man was when they were trying to incite black people to murder George Zimmerman.

And Gee-Zee had, at least, shot someone. Roosh has done nothing wrong.

You should see some of the legbeards skittering out of the woodpile to attack Roosh.

This creature, Katie Pruszynski, organised a petition in the UK to have Roosh beheaded or whatever. When Katie isn't campaigning to have heterosexual men jailed, xe is complaining to xer local newspaper about there being too many white men in politics.

Here's xer Twitter details in case anybody wants to say hi.

Twitter: @ladypolitic

Blogger Phillip George February 06, 2016 7:45 AM  

Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier in 1947
Jane Fonda broke the orgasmatron in 1968
Roosh broke the offendatron in 2016
Not to mention Lance Armstrong.
Hillary's emails.
Desert Storm.

Anonymous Lawyer Guy February 06, 2016 7:49 AM  

I am more concerned that they had Veterans Affairs Federal Police ready to arrest veterans for attending a discussion group

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 06, 2016 7:51 AM  

Mr. Cernovich said he's never seen anything like this RooshV situation. I agree. Very little scares me but this is f-ing frightening.

Blogger APL February 06, 2016 7:55 AM  

"The rumor on campus is that a dangerous group of men were planning to form a mob and rape women this evening."

But when a real live actual gang rape occurs it takes four months for the Police to do anything.

Blogger endwatcher February 06, 2016 8:16 AM  

You aren't going to defeat the narrative anytime soon. They have the resources and energy that we lack. Roosh is a terrible spokesman for any movement due to his image. Metapolitically the best move is to have Cernovich take over neomasculinity (change the name too) and distance the whole thing from Roosh. If there is a seachange in your favor at some point you can bring in the vanguard to the forefront again.

Blogger Doseux February 06, 2016 8:27 AM  

This may be the most cogent argument against female suffrage ever presented.
Watch as furious Juno, heart stoked with envy, calls Alecto.
Out of the pit of Hell she rises, the monster of a Fury,
strands of snakes bound into cords of hair on her head.
With a swift command the goddess instructs the demon:
"Go out into the world, instill in my daughters ravings, hysterics
against the sons of Man! Tear through that instrument of lies,
The Press, and froth up every page until the blood of innocent men
condemned to die drips from the paper!" Then she hurled her down.

The child of sulfur flies across the land, stirring up our wives and daughters.
She sends her snakes into the bosom of our mothers and our sisters she
binds with the golden brand of Bacchian delusion. They lust after sons of Sinon,
they crave the bodies of Ethiopian animals. And their demand is for war,
constant war, forever and always war!

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 8:29 AM  

Mr. Cernovich said he's never seen anything like this RooshV situation. I agree. Very little scares me but this is f-ing frightening.

Why? This is far from over.

You aren't going to defeat the narrative anytime soon. They have the resources and energy that we lack.

So what? We know we will defeat them in the end, because our positions are harmonious with reality.

Roosh is a terrible spokesman for any movement due to his image.

Images are often false and can be remade. In any event, you go to war with the army and allies you have. Roosh can be trusted. I trust him far more than most of the self-professed good people who won't hesitate to stab you in the back if a woman looks at them cross for standing next to you.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 06, 2016 8:33 AM  

@21 You're right that Roosh isn't the best spokesman but I'm not going to throw him under the bus. I stand with Roosh.

Seeing the cops show up at Roosh's door reminds me of the Gregory Allen Elliott case. The cops also showed up at his door for simply disagreeing with women on Twitter. See #freedomoftweets.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 06, 2016 8:37 AM  

Wrong at every turn, endwatcher. Roosh is triggering nuke drops and rape fantasies across the globe, and you want to abandon the weapon?

That is just stupid.

That is like saying because of Hiroshima let's surrender to the Japanese.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet February 06, 2016 8:40 AM  

VD

I can confirm this week at least one of the very largest international
organizations, (Fortune 500) released an internal document
alerting staff to the Return of Kings meet-ups. They also specifically called ROK an "extreme group" that were seeking to "disrupt" and while acknowledging that it had nothing to do with this organization directly, there was a general safety concern. It read like coordinated propaganda.

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 8:41 AM  

It read like coordinated propaganda.

It was.

Blogger Michael Maier February 06, 2016 8:42 AM  

I once told my black GF that Abe Lincoln was an evil, murderous tyrant and it didn't stop her tingles. It put them on pause, and her face was priceless, but then I told her exactly why and asked why the entire rest of the world got rid of slavery without murderous war.

Women will betray anyone and even kill their own children if they're wet enough for a man. If she can cow you with a look, you're a child, not a man.

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 8:42 AM  

Look, this isn't that hard. Roosh is simply the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein. What they call "Roosh" doesn't even exist.

Blogger Mark Citadel February 06, 2016 8:46 AM  

"I can confirm this week at least one of the very largest international
organizations, (Fortune 500) released an internal document
alerting staff to the Return of Kings meet-ups. They also specifically called ROK an "extreme group" that were seeking to "disrupt" and while acknowledging that it had nothing to do with this organization directly, there was a general safety concern."

Thanks, NorthernHamlet. We need information like this. "corporations are people", which is damn frightening because we know that evil doesn't come from institutions (what Liberals perceive), but instead from people.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 06, 2016 8:48 AM  

You want Cernovich to be the face of the movement? He thinks guys who can't get laid give up and go gay. Please tell me that tweet was satire.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet February 06, 2016 8:52 AM  

Roosh is simply the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein.

I'm honestly very surprised by how much I've seen about this. Some guys want to meet up for beers and the SJWs go into overdrive.

I find it hard to believe that done of the people that denounced it just happened to hear about it and felt the need to mention it.

But really... Why such a large reaction to this of all things?

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 8:54 AM  

You want Cernovich to be the face of the movement?

Has no one learned anything from #GamerGate? The face of the movement has to be fictitious, because the media will attack and attempt to undermine any individual who comes to represent it. See: Vivian James.

Alton and Milly Wright should be the only faces of the movement we accept. Alton has dark hair and looks like John Hamm out of Mad Men, only with a cyberpunk twist. He carries a gun with a silencer. Milly has a long blonde ponytail, wears camo, and is gunned up.

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 8:56 AM  

Why such a large reaction to this of all things?

Two reasons. The next economic crisis is coming and people are on edge. And they sense they are losing control of the Narrative thanks to the migrant crisis. It's no different than how the SF SJWs reacted after we blitzed the Hugo nominations.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 06, 2016 8:57 AM  

It isnt a large reaction. It is a fabricated one. It would be a poorly executed one if the government generated water carriers - idiot college girls - weren't having orgasms of fear over it.

Blogger Harsh February 06, 2016 9:03 AM  

Today i got a panicked call from my daughter who goes to Boston University. The rumor on campus is that a dangerous group of men were planning to form a mob and rape women this evening.

I'm confused. There's a gang of hajis roaming around Boston?

Blogger tenor_general February 06, 2016 9:04 AM  

I suspect the suggestion to replace Roosh as a public figurehead stems from a desire to attract some more moderate faces to the crowd. However, moderates arebt the kind of people you want in your side in this sort of culture-skirmish.

My reaction to all this has been one of amazement at the new depths plumbed by the hysterical social media mob.

And as you say Vox, it's much better to have a trusted ally than one with a good image (especially if it's his image in the eyes of the enemy)

Anonymous Kyle February 06, 2016 9:06 AM  

I've been reading this blog since 2008, when I picked up a copy of The Irrational Atheist at Borders. I haven't commented a lot lately, though I still read daily. I've been familiar with Roosh for years and never paid much attention when his writing revolved around traveling and picking up girls. But I've grown to be absolutely fascinated with the man - and his writing - ever since his focus has shifted toward the issues facing men in modern society. He's grown a tremendous deal to become a genuinely compelling and thought-provoking figure, regardless of what you think of the gonzo style of his articles and some editorials on Return Of Kings.

I've been truly astonished at the internet mob backlash against Roosh over the past few days. I can think of few people who have been so unfairly and universally slandered by the press. Worse yet is the internet mob response - go read the comments on Roosh's tweets, his (satirical) Instagram page, and so on. They're absolutely vile.

Throughout this whole thing, the commenters on RoK and Roosh's forum have kept pretty cool and composed (I'm impressed, because RoK commenters can be pretty idiotic sometimes.) But the Internet Attack Mob has sunk to new levels of disgustingness. I'm not even angry at them as much as I'm sad that people can act so horrible - or think that such a response is justified just because a guy teaches how to pick up girls.

The more I think about this, the more important it seems to take the movement offline and in person, where those who go against the Narrative can operate (to a greater degree) outside the barbaric internet mob. I'm a leader in a small group at my church and all of this has me convinced that I need to launch a men's group to teach and instruct men - and I've learned plenty from guys like Roosh and Quintus that would be helpful to the development of strong, Christian men.

The enemy rages in terror because it knows we're on the verge of something revolutionary.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet February 06, 2016 9:11 AM  

Kyle

I need to launch a men's group to teach and instruct men

You should. One thing I always look for in a church is some mens meet up with the young and old. Even throwing the football around is perfect for me, but Bible studies, whatever goes. That type of group to fallback on and get honest advice is too often missing in our society.

Anonymous Lawyer Guy February 06, 2016 9:12 AM  

"It put them on pause, and her face was priceless, but then I told her exactly why and asked why the entire rest of the world got rid of slavery without murderous war."

Russia, 1905 through 1991. All the violence and deaths caused by choosing to end chattel slavery through a bond scheme that was even worse.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 06, 2016 9:13 AM  

GG meetups, Kyle. Same thing. This is what it looks like when the plarform of the noplatformed expands.

Blogger vashine February 06, 2016 9:14 AM  

Exactly. The reaction was amplified by those who will soon be out of jobs, surrounded by drooling vibrants. Their concerns will swiftly shift to those of life, death, and the very basics of survival. Many of those girls will be seeking and finding refuge in the the houses and apartments of their fathers, brothers, and docile but trustworthy white males they were attacking so vehemently not a year or so before.

They sense this as well. They are both furious and baffled that it is all falling apart, reaching the very point we all said it would reach. This enervates and confuses them even more, and possibly worse, than women losing their freedoms: that we, their sworn enemies, those who they believed with all their might were just plain stupid, stupid, stupid. Those who just couldn't "see" the truth like they could. The people who they thought were the ignorant rubes, the unenlightened, those unwashed masses, the un-progressive neanderthals living in the dark ages, making all these racist and sexist predictions....

They are sensing that we were right, all along. They hate that. Hate it. More than being wrong, they hate they we were right. They will seek to kill and imprison those who dare speak the truth. They are desperately protecting their own egos and worldview, with violence.

This is one of their last shrill cries. Feminism is dying hard and fast. And they feel it.

Which lashes out more when finally cornered... the cat, or the cat-lady?

Blogger Josh February 06, 2016 9:19 AM  

Roosh is the one Muslim rapist SJWs don't like...

Blogger tz February 06, 2016 9:30 AM  

"my daughter who goes to Boston University"
I didn't have to read further to know she was stupid. Either she is selling herself into debt slavery, or the Father is complicit. Unless a wasted full scholarship.

Blogger dienw February 06, 2016 9:38 AM  

@39. NorthernHamlet
Bible studies, whatever goes. That type of group to fallback on and get honest advice is too often missing in our society.

Tried that for a few months in 2014. The group met once a week for bible study at a diner; they were more interested in the game on the TVs than the bible the "leader" waved off any understanding or knowledge he didn't already know or want to know; And the last straw for me was when they invited a Moslem college student to join the group - it was a men's group: she dominated the group discussion the few times she was there; the foolish white knights even bought a bible for her; I do not know if she ever showed up to received it, because I left the group at the end of that meeting: it wasn't my church group (I had come out of Babylon by then).

When red pill understanding came up in the conversation, it was quickly discouraged.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar February 06, 2016 9:41 AM  

Yeah I'd love to see the system try to take off the unused velvet glove and take a hard line against dissent. The Government has such vast support doesn't it? Sure the military hates them and the feelings are mutual, and the police are wondering why the fuck they're letting blacks shoot them for doing their job, but those lazy idiots on welfare have the back of their friendly neighborhood nigga in the Whites' House. AmIright? Just don't call them before noon, on a weekday or the weekend and any month with an R, and they'll be there sometime. maybe.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2016 9:46 AM  

I wonder if these same concerned students flip out if Bill Clinton or Bill Cosby come to the campus?

Hello Friend

Blogger Josh February 06, 2016 9:52 AM  

I wonder if these same concerned students flip out if Bill Clinton or Bill Cosby come to the campus?

No, yes

Anonymous NorthernHamlet February 06, 2016 9:52 AM  

Dienw,

I should have qualified and said it wasn't the only thing to look for. There's some churches I know that the men... They're SJW to the core.

Blogger endwatcher February 06, 2016 9:54 AM  

If you can't even meet up you lost, at least in the short term. Maybe a fictitious leader is a good idea. It is still better than Roosh. I never said stab him in the back or shoot at him. He himself should decide to "step down" as the face of his movement, but not in a loud way.

Agitation is nice but it is not winning. If you can't get women on board ( or at least neutral) then you can't get broad enough support. My wife and her friends think this guy advocates rape. I know he doesn't but they aren't going to bother to investigate and most people are herd mentality.

You may not want moderates but you don't want to have all media consumers against you either. The image matters. No one knows what neomasculinity is about, but they think they know Roost is advocating rape. You can't educate them because you don't control the narrative, but you can create a symbol that will lead them to check it out and decide. That symbol isn't Roosh.

Blogger Josh February 06, 2016 9:57 AM  

It's almost like this whole thing was just another publicity stunt for Roosh

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 10:00 AM  

You may not want moderates but you don't want to have all media consumers against you either. The image matters. No one knows what neomasculinity is about, but they think they know Roost is advocating rape. You can't educate them because you don't control the narrative, but you can create a symbol that will lead them to check it out and decide. That symbol isn't Roosh.

When I want strategic advice from you, I will certainly let you know. In the meantime, Roosh will continue to do what he does. I will continue to stand by him, as I stand by all of my social media allies.

I am not even remotely concerned about what "all media consumers" think.

Blogger Salt February 06, 2016 10:00 AM  

Has no one learned anything from #GamerGate? See: Vivian James.

I'm finding it disturbing how many don't get it. That team (or guy) over there, attacking from the west, and not doing it right. That makes them cucks. Should do it like we do. No matter they're attacking the same enemy you are.

Blogger VD February 06, 2016 10:03 AM  

It's almost like this whole thing was just another publicity stunt for Roosh

Do you think so?

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 06, 2016 10:06 AM  

That is another way of looking at it, Josh. But these are more effective than entertaining stunts. They exploit vulnerabilities in the narrative for profit, yes, but they also erect the scaffolding for platforms in the future.

The only reason a drugaddled AIDs patient Charlie Sheen was "winning" was because the narrative was so clearly pathetic.

Now take someone with faculties in tact, on the side of capital T Truth, and his going to really win. Take a real Christian...and you have Lucifer falling from the sky.

Go Roosh Go. You aren't a success until every Daughter of Boston University is dreading the pleasure of your company.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 06, 2016 10:12 AM  

Guy at Dorito factory: "Oh no! What if someone eats a Dorito and gets fat? What would happen? I could lose my job! I should quit to prevent that."

Anonymous Man of the Atom February 06, 2016 10:29 AM  

The people who want to surrender over the enemy merely engaging the Alt-Right are unfamiliar with war. This isn't the end. Vox is right: this is *just* the beginning of the conflict. Suck it up and drive forward.

The fact that SJWs, 3rd Wave Feminists, Cucks, and their enablers are so distraught is that they can smell their own defeat in the morass of mountainous debt, immigration, political uncertainty, and the furious responses of the underclasses over actual inequity ignored while false inequity is heralded.

We are in Fast Forward mode this time around. What stuns me is how rapidly this is all progressing this time. The victories that the Alt-Right has already won are amazing. It's as though one 21st Century year is equivalent to 100 years of an earlier time (5th-12th Centuries).

We might be alive to see some of the horrid results of the 1960s and 1970s resolve themselves before we die.

These are amazing times to be alive and serving.

Blogger endwatcher February 06, 2016 10:34 AM  

If you can't even meet up you lost, at least in the short term. Maybe a fictitious leader is a good idea. It is still better than Roosh. I never said stab him in the back or shoot at him. He himself should decide to "step down" as the face of his movement, but not in a loud way.

Agitation is nice but it is not winning. If you can't get women on board ( or at least neutral) then you can't get broad enough support. My wife and her friends think this guy advocates rape. I know he doesn't but they aren't going to bother to investigate and most people are herd mentality.

You may not want moderates but you don't want to have all media consumers against you either. The image matters. No one knows what neomasculinity is about, but they think they know Roost is advocating rape. You can't educate them because you don't control the narrative, but you can create a symbol that will lead them to check it out and decide. That symbol isn't Roosh.

OpenID douchebagdeluxe February 06, 2016 10:36 AM  

@50 endwatcher

"you can't educate them because you don't control the narrative"

What do you think Roosh, Roissy, Rollo, Vox, Millo and Mike are doing. They are fighting everyday to disrupt and get control of the narrative. They haven't won, we haven't won ... but if we keep rocking the boat long enough, it will turn over. Disruption is a force to be reckoned with, a narrative of its own.

Blogger Salt February 06, 2016 10:47 AM  

There isn't a day where "SJWs, 3rd Wave Feminists, Cucks, and their enablers" are not confronted with objective truth. I don't think it's possible for them to go a day without, even for a fleeting moment, knowing their position(s) and professed beliefs to be a lie. They have to drown that out by continually increasing their volume.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 06, 2016 10:49 AM  

VD, your calm demeanor and positive attitude towards this situation is appreciated.

My positive take is that Roosh's stunt has certainly shined a huge spotlight on the totalitarian left and revealed their true colors for all to see. If there were any skeptics remaining out there before, I doubt there are any now.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 10:49 AM  

@4 Roosh and the people that work for him, might be going to jail trumped up charges and I'm not joking.

Let's see, I've had one Crown Attorney disbarred so far, and working on a second. Try it.

Anonymous Paul February 06, 2016 10:53 AM  

I think the entire matter is ripe for study as a tactical how-to example of emotionally manipulating the mid-witted masses. Just think: one blogger from Maryland has given the masses and politicians the world over a royal panty-twist. That it may have been unintentional is particularly interesting.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 11:01 AM  

@8 The Tom Cruise character was based on Ross Jefferies. I learned of NLP and kino from his seminars on Napster. Interesting from a psych perspective, and it's obvious Trump is a master.

Anonymous Philalethes February 06, 2016 11:02 AM  

@58 endwatcher:

My wife and her friends think this guy advocates rape.

Who's the head of your family? Who makes the decisions in your household? If your wife is incapable of rational thought (I assume you did your best to disabuse her of this delusion? not all that difficult – just refer her to the "offending" article; if she doesn't get the irony, then probably she should not be regarded as an adult), why are you listening to her at all? Perhaps you need to do some work on your at-home Game, rather than kibitzing from the sidelines, trying to "moderate" a struggle you're not really involved in yourself.

I don't know a whole lot about Roosh, having had no interest in the PUA culture he was promoting until recently; and I'm not at all sure he's going about this in the smartest way. But there's no denying he's got some guts – note that he hasn't apologized yet, and doesn't look like he will – and I'm not going to take pot-shots at him.

I don't consider Roosh a "leader", and I'm not a follower, but I do believe he's making an honest effort to dig himself (and all men, insofar as he can) out of the hole we've been buried in by our seriously pathological culture. Most of us just don't know how to be men anymore, and the attempt to learn will inevitably involve a lot of mistakes and near-misses. Whatever his motives, whatever his level of skill, what he's done has raised the "conversation" to a whole new level, and exposed the ugly underside of Feminism & Co. as hardly anything else has ever done.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 11:11 AM  

@18 ISTR the National Guard got into trouble for pushing anti-drug propaganda, but then again Smith-Mundt has been repealed.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 11:15 AM  

@23 As someone who has stopped a few SJW rapists IRL (drunk opportunity rape) I'd trust Roosh more than McRapey too.

No time for the narcissism of small differences in the war.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 11:20 AM  

@29 Emmanuel Goldstein

Which reminds me... I'm keeping a close eye on this for entryists.

Blogger The Other Robot February 06, 2016 11:39 AM  

They should be more afraid of Rappers

Blogger The Other Robot February 06, 2016 11:41 AM  

@68: They are clearly clueless. Their certificate expired a few days ago.

Anonymous Fred February 06, 2016 11:41 AM  

Vox NAILED it.

The System is collapsing in on itself and all the wild-ass stuff you are seeing in all facets of modern life, it's all connected - Roosh GG Oregon Bernie Trump Migrants Oil - connected.

The common thread is that the Collective Unconscious feels a great disturbance in the Force and they are wildly thrashing around trying to go back to sleep.

It is what they have done for 7 decades now, only this time, it just doesn't seem to work.

Fourth Turning Baby ! :)

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 06, 2016 11:47 AM  

Assuming the 7pm press conference isn't a hoax, I hope Roosh takes a page out of VD's playbook and stays strong, doesn't try to explain himself or reason with them.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 11:54 AM  

@58 Roosh is just the schwerpunkt because he's brown (Armenian, I think) and Arab rapefugees are in the news. It's just the mask of the SJW slipping.

Anonymous Fred February 06, 2016 12:00 PM  

It's everywhere - I told you :

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/world/asia/wanted-in-china-more-male-teachers-to-make-boys-men.html?_r=0

Anonymous Philalethes February 06, 2016 12:01 PM  

I've long felt there's something really strange about all the rape hysteria. Clearly it's considered a worse crime than outright murder (cf. the punishments given), though it's also a known fact (to anyone capable of rational thought) that false accusations form a higher percentage of rape "cases" than any other crime.

Any student of Red Pill knowledge should be aware by now that the female mind comprises numerous layers, nearly all of them unknown to conscious awareness, containing many mutually contradictory thoughts, feelings, impulses and drives. (Of course the same is true of the male mind, but to a lesser degree due to the common male urge to investigate and find the truth, which does not seem to be shared by more than a handful of females – and evolutionary pressure on males to be able to think and figure things out, which requires knowing facts.)

One of the first lessons in Red Pill 101 is: "Women don't know what they want." They really don't. They also very often don't know why they do what they do – especially in regard to those things that really matter, in terms of potential consequences.

I am increasingly convinced that not only is Feminism a gigantic s**t test (which the men of the West have lost – so far), but that the whole "migrant crisis" in Europe is a subset of the same. The women of northern/western Europe have not been getting what they need for some time, and in desperation they've decided (unconsciously) to import some from a culture where, despite its many crudities, at least the men are capable of making a girl forget herself for a moment. Relentless solipsism may look like fun, but it really isn't.

Somebody posted a most striking photo at TRM (in a thread that should be of interest to anyone reading this) a couple days ago. On the face of it, the picture doesn't seem to be anything special: charming young German woman "Jana" teaching some "refugees" their new language, right? But look a little harder. Note where she's pinned her name tag. Artful, ¿qué no? Big smile for these oh-so-sweet young men. And I'm old enough to remember when a "decent" girl would not be seen in public showing so much skin/cleavage. Really; think about it.

Frankly, she's not even my "type" (not to mention I'm old enough to be her grandfather), but the waves of sexual energy coming off all that lush white flesh were enough to lodge her in a dream that night. What must this sort of thing be doing to these semi-wild, sexually-starved young men?

And of course, if you told her what she was doing she'd deny it categorically – because she really doesn't know. She doesn't know because she doesn't need to know; evolution has never required her to be aware of what she's doing, because Nature's purpose for her (reproduction) can be accomplished very well with only minimal conscious participation from her. All she has to do is be there, and show some flesh, and bingo!

"Things are seldom what they seem." – W.S. Gilbert
"Everything has a front and a back; the bigger the front, the bigger the back." – George Ohsawa

[Continued...]

Anonymous Philalethes February 06, 2016 12:05 PM  

So why all the hysteria? Current events are seriously exacerbating the cognitive dissonance between what the female mind wants to believe about herself and what the female body is driving her to do. Consider the huge success of the rather trashy book 50 Shades of Grey – and the fact that "romance" (aka "bodice-ripper") fiction is by far the largest category in publishing. We all know about this, of course, but it's more than just a joke: it's a ringing alarm about something seriously out of order in our civilization.

Bottom line: to the female hind-brain, quite simply, "rape" is better than no sex at all. And so the hind-brain will set out to get what she can, ploughing right through the inconsequential fluff clouding up the fore-brain. As Camille Paglia noted in her excellent essay, "There is no law in the arena."

They just aren't getting enough, and they don't know what it is they so badly need, and they don't know what to do about it. So, driven by unconscious impulses they've never been taught even to acknowledge, much less manage, they're behaving in ways that can only lead them into tragedy. And they don't know why, and they're scared. Result: escalating hysteria – without limit, for the female mind has no practice in restraint either. We all know the etymology of the word, I assume? (If you don't, look it up. Clue: it's related to hysterectomy.)

And, of course, this primal fear rising in the mare herd can be used by Those who know how to use such things, and feel no compunction about doing so.

This YouTube, linked on another blog, graphically demonstrates the state of the collective Western female mind. A rational response to anything simply cannot be expected at this time. As Roosh himself comments: "And they let women vote!" Lesson learned? Not yet, but maybe we can hope?

Blogger endwatcher February 06, 2016 12:06 PM  

I told her what the deal is. She has stupid friends. My point was the default position of people is against neomasculinity. They aren't going to listen to any of your iconoclastic leaders when they are seen by the average person as child molester level pariahs.

Thanks for the concern trolling though.

Anyway much as I hope for things to turn around in the culture I believe ultimately the final collapse of the enlightenment and it's progressivism is the only way forward. It is just too far gone to turnaround without the end of this order of things. You can't have a stable society with this much insanity going on.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner February 06, 2016 12:19 PM  

18 Veterans Affairs Federal Police ready to arrest veterans for attending a discussion group

I searched for that but couldn't find it.

going to defeat the narrative anytime soon. They have the resources and energy that we lack

Mainly our tax dollars, and Soros money stolen via fraud.

why the entire rest of the world got rid of slavery without murderous war.

Slavery is still practiced in much of the world you can still buy slaves in Africa for $5 each, & all forms of collective coercive governments are a form of slavery. The isle of Hispania might have peacefully freed slaves but they killed all the whites and 1/2 breeds on the Haiti side, and all the white males on the DR side, leading to DR having an avg IQ higher than Haiti.

He thinks guys who can't get laid give up and go gay He should tell them to just lie to women

It isnt a large reaction. It is a fabricated one. Like when Cecil the Lion was the biggest crime of the week which also had the not covered video of a Hispanic tossing the body of 8yo white girl Madie Middleton into a dumpster after he raped her to death.

Anonymous Scintan February 06, 2016 12:29 PM  

Agitation is nice but it is not winning. If you can't get women on board ( or at least neutral) then you can't get broad enough support. My wife and her friends think this guy advocates rape. I know he doesn't but they aren't going to bother to investigate and most people are herd mentality.

Educate your wife. If you're not capable of that, what the hell good are you?

Blogger Shimshon February 06, 2016 12:38 PM  

Vox, multiple personality disorder, or perhaps schizophrenia, might explain this odd behavior of his. Is there another quote that perhaps mentions something about hearing voices in his head?

Anonymous Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba February 06, 2016 12:42 PM  

As a young man, I didn't care, as long as I got laid.

With time, I saw the faults developing. I realized my own complicity. And came to the sad realization that debauc!hing other mens' daughters meant my daughter was fair game, too. That silence is cowardice. That we let shrill harpies ruin our nation through our own unwillingness to deal with Unpleasant Women and their allies.

Now, as our nation crumbles, I see it all for what it truly is. The monstrousness of their intent, the lies we were sold, the wasted lives of our enfeebled sons and envious daughters.

And we worry about the enemy? They are weak. They've ALWAYS been weak. Houses built on bad foundations always crumble. They are sucessful ONLY when we are complicit in supporting their non-euclidean edifices.

Men of the West, we caused it. We can fix it.

So, be of good cheer. Their desperate responses only aid our cause.

These are interesting times.

Rise to the challenge.

Anonymous BGKB February 06, 2016 12:50 PM  

you don't want to have all media consumers against you either

The Carlos Slims & 5 jews media along with facebook and twitter are all controlled by SJWs.

drugaddled AIDs patient Charlie Sheen was "winning" was because the narrative was so clearly pathetic

What did he win other than the Guinness record for paying for the most hookers in a week?

It's as though one 21st Century year is equivalent to 100 years of an earlier time (5th-12th Centuries).

HilLIARy's gay campaign manager named MOOK said “If Donald Trump takes the Republican nomination, our party will lose more than the presidency,” Robby Mook writes to supporters.
“Years of progress will be ripped away. Obamacare will be repealed. Marriage equality will be rolled back. Get excited to visit the wall on the Mexico border"

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/mook-spooked-hillary-manager-predicts-trump-will-win-presidency-if-nominated/

Blogger CM February 06, 2016 1:03 PM  

Why are we hating on the girl here? Sure, she didn't think for herself but finding non-biased info on Roosh isn't the easiest thing to do.

She was inclined to believe it but was incredulous enough to call her father for advice. That's not what I would call stupid.

I saw the links. I didn't have enough information on Roosh or to know where the accusation was coming from to respond but I really wanted to call them all idiots.

So I'm trying to piece this together - Roosh was critical of the sobeiety requirement for consensual sex, wrote a satire piece comparing it to driving drunk, Scalzi parodied with "I'm a rapist", so now Roosh is a pro-rape advocate?

Not a fan of PUAs, but they are what feminists created. As long as I am immune to them and can raise my daughter that way, they can help themselves to the Slut brigade.

Anonymous Man of the Atom February 06, 2016 1:04 PM  

@77. endwatcher
"I told her what the deal is. She has stupid friends. My point was the default position of people is against neomasculinity. They aren't going to listen to any of your iconoclastic leaders when they are seen by the average person as child molester level pariahs.


And your solution is to throw someone "virtuous" under the bus instead of accepting those that are fighting the same fight as you supposedly are? Tell your wife that her friends are wrong and stupid, and they will be blissfully unaware until the hammer falls.

You know nothing of total war. This is total war; it's just in it's first phase.

"Thanks for the concern trolling though."

Projection, thy name is endwatcher.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 06, 2016 1:12 PM  

I am increasingly convinced that not only is Feminism a gigantic s**t tes

There was women's suffrage, there were improvements to welfare for children (a "women's issue" everyone seems to forget) and then there is cocktease feminism (Slutwalks, etc.) which we are in now, and you are 100% correct.

Anonymous Man of the Atom February 06, 2016 1:34 PM  

58. endwatcher February 06, 2016 10:34 AM
"You may not want moderates but you don't want to have all media consumers against you either. The image matters. No one knows what neomasculinity is about, but they think they know Roost is advocating rape. You can't educate them because you don't control the narrative, but you can create a symbol that will lead them to check it out and decide. That symbol isn't Roosh."


Who "won" Gamergate? Which side had greater control of the tools of the herd, the media, behind them? Women worry about Image. Men worry about Truth.

Why was "I am the Leader of Gamergate!" such an important rallying cry, especially for young men? Because it called them to each stand up and fight for their liberty and for Truth, to be a leader to the best of their ability. It will be young men being Men that destroys this evil, not men clustering in a herd behind a virtuous human leader.

"I am the Leader of Gamergate!" is the call to build a thousand, a million, a billion manly leaders, not just a handful of targets. 10,000 strong leaders are tougher to contain and eradicate than 10 are.

Total War mindset.

Anonymous BGKB February 06, 2016 2:17 PM  

I couldn't help but notice that while the top queer friendly job was one that let you spy on your exes the 3rd place one was specific for feminists.
#3 National Assembly for Whales.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/12106765/MI5-named-Britains-most-gay-friendly-employer.html

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 06, 2016 2:20 PM  

Two reasons. The next economic crisis is coming and people are on edge. And they sense they are losing control of the Narrative thanks to the migrant crisis. It's no different than how the SF SJWs reacted after we blitzed the Hugo nominations.

There is a third reason I would add. A generational shift in information distribution is about to happen. The Boomers remain dependent on mass media, most have never really adjusted to the internet. But the Silents have begun to leave and the Boomers are next.

Gen X on down is not dependent on mass media in any serious way. Mass media's power is about to fade. And they know it.

Anonymous Takin' a Look February 06, 2016 2:47 PM  

@ Charlie Mantel

Yes, suffrage, children's rights, black rights, working man's rights, Temperance*, even soft eugenics.

*Temperance had valid points. Lots of Men were frittering their money drinking,gambling and whoring. The first two resulting in lots of violence and starvation at home, the third resulting in wives getting STDs from their husbands. Back in the Day, STDs were incurable and often a death-sentence.

Didn't work out as planned though. Things got even worst, especially after antibiotics and the Pill, then it was Woman's turn to go whoring around.

Anonymous 5343 February 06, 2016 3:26 PM  

Roosh is a terrible spokesman for any movement due to his image.

Vox replies: "Images are often false and can be remade. In any event, you go to war with the army and allies you have. Roosh can be trusted. I trust him far more than most of the self-professed good people who won't hesitate to stab you in the back if a woman looks at them cross for standing next to you."

Exactly. Furthermore, the fact is he didn't do anything and he doesn't advocate what they say he does. Since it's all about the lies anyway, they'd smear Cernovich with BS and discredit him as quickly as Roosh.

The only difference is that just gets Mike going ...

Anonymous Takin' a Look February 06, 2016 4:01 PM  

@5343

+100
You hit the nail on the head.

@Cataline Sergius

You are correct, Ad revenue for printed and digital media nose-dived from $70 billion per annum to $20 billion per annum in just 15 years. They are strictly propaganda organs nowadays. Paid for by the tax-payers of course.

Mainstream Alternative media is also flailing, they won't touch certain (((questions))) but that doesn't mean much. A typical informed lurker might browse an Alphabet Soup MSM, read Huffpo, Breitbart, Zero Hedge, Natural News, Western RifleShooters, twitter feeds, local news,a lolkatz, all before he has finished his second cup of coffee.

Now build that up to SCALE/force multiplier. It doesn't matter if Truthseekers don't agree on everything, come from very divergent backgrounds, everyone of them usually ends up in the same place in the noosphere. Cyberia has massively changed the Game.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 06, 2016 5:04 PM  

The Roosh has quickly transformed from a "big, scary rapist" to a "lame loser who lives in his Mom's basement".

It's amazing how quickly the narrative changes.

Anonymous Takin' a Look February 06, 2016 5:48 PM  

@ Jean Valjean

Indeed! I'm looking at this like "WTF"? Roosh reminds me of that will smith movie Hitch. However, I see that he is a much more popular version of Roissy. And he is an actual Man. He works out, uses logic, understands that his soft core white west nationalism would naturally exclude him and his family, yet gets it. He understands why women act the way they do, he had a huge article on the (((question))). He understands that the white west in all it's post-modernist cucked degeneracy will not survive what is coming.

We have the Truth on our side, because for all the denigration of the white west, it is THE best place to live on earth.

To give an example: white farmers in southern africa are now giving up. At first they tried nigeria and kenya, but they don't have a reliable white institutional structural network. So they are trying to get back into the White world. Whites and non bantus in africa need to get out as fast as possible. Once TSHTF, China is going to seize as much territory as possible. The genocides of Shaka Zulu and Leopold will be teddy bear picnics in comparison.

Blogger haus frau February 06, 2016 6:05 PM  

Roosh basically goaded the SJW's into turning him into a super villain. I don't like Roosh because of the way he lives but anyone who has looked into to his website can see what he is doing. Have none of them read A Modest Proposal? Do they not understand satire or what an agent provocateur is? Their lack of humor really means there is no bait they won't bite on which is a horrible weakness to have.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 06, 2016 6:09 PM  

@93 Well said!

Blogger roger gibson February 06, 2016 6:28 PM  

Hahahah, c'mon man. We get it. Leave this "Scalzi is a rapist" stuff be. Even if it is hilarious.
Still laughing.

Blogger Harold February 06, 2016 10:03 PM  

@93 "Once TSHTF, China is going to seize as much territory as possible." Orientals are probably as ill suited as Caucasians for surviving in deepest darkest Africa. Maps show that almost of Africa was under European control at one point in time or another, but the reality is, except for the desert states in the North, and South Africa and Rhodesia, actual control ran out a few miles from the coast. White faces in inland Africa were, and are, rare.

Anonymous Takin' a Look February 06, 2016 10:57 PM  

@ Jean Valjean

Thank you

@ Harold

There are hundreds of millions of poverty-stricken Chinese and what is it...like 200 million men who have no chance whatsoever of getting married and having kids unless they engage in polyandry?

That's enough 106 IQ rice-paddies with no hope at home to take up flame-throwers and burn 70 IQ Africa to the ground and turn it into New Q'uin. What's left of the Bantus will be the highest IQ castes such as the Igbos and deep-desert nomads. Wives will likely be mail-order brides from wherever as well as the most attractive native girls. The Almond Eyes don't give a shit, Africa is a prize that will be worth all the misery and suffering.

Anonymous BGKB February 06, 2016 11:38 PM  

That's enough 106 IQ rice-paddies with no hope at home to take up flame-throwers and burn 70 IQ Africa to the ground and turn it into New

I think China will leave some blacks to do the dirty work. They killed all the miners that went on strike for money before. Chinese will stay inside air conditioned areas with mosquito nets, and just point their guns out from time to time.

Anonymous Takin' a Look February 06, 2016 11:46 PM  

@ BGKB

You have a point there. It's not like this is the 19th century. I bet they work them to death, castrate as many of the males as they can as well. China used to do that to their african slaves, but unlike the arabs, they imported no female africans.

Anonymous Cheddarman February 07, 2016 12:42 AM  

End watcher you advocate the tactics of division and defeat...shut up and listen or go away. We don't need your kind here. We plan on winning in the end.

Blogger Escoffier February 07, 2016 10:21 AM  

#12 Mantraman

I'm not new here but this young man is what I would describe as a "Facebook Republican" and as such is the step of devolution of the so-called conservative movement.

I have tried to introduce some extremely mild red pilling when we speak (which is of very limited duration as we work in different departments) and every time he looks either panicked or like he might burst into tears.

It blows my mind To be honest with you. I'm an old kitchen hand and am not very good dealing with sissy boys. Even at my most blue pilled I would have found the things I say to him amusing not terrifying.

Blogger Akulkis February 07, 2016 11:47 AM  

@60
"There isn't a day where "SJWs, 3rd Wave Feminists, Cucks, and their enablers" are not confronted with objective truth. I don't think it's possible for them to go a day without, even for a fleeting moment, knowing their position(s) and professed beliefs to be a lie. They have to drown that out by continually increasing their volume."

And thus their preoccupation with "signal boosting."

Blogger Akulkis February 07, 2016 11:47 AM  

@60
"There isn't a day where "SJWs, 3rd Wave Feminists, Cucks, and their enablers" are not confronted with objective truth. I don't think it's possible for them to go a day without, even for a fleeting moment, knowing their position(s) and professed beliefs to be a lie. They have to drown that out by continually increasing their volume."

And thus their preoccupation with "signal boosting."

Blogger dfordoom February 07, 2016 4:59 PM  

This may be the most cogent argument against female suffrage ever presented.

This may be the most cogent argument against university "education" ever presented. It's time to start shutting down universities. Keep enough universities to provide the doctors, engineers, etc that society actually needs. The rest should be closed down, the buildings demolished and the ground salted.

At most 5 percent of the population needs a university education.

Blogger dfordoom February 07, 2016 5:33 PM  

@57. Man of the Atom

and the furious responses of the underclasses over actual inequity ignored while false inequity is heralded

That's a point that needs to be hammered home. We're being offered "social justice" as a substitute for economic justice. It's a betrayal of the ideals of leftism.

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