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Tuesday, February 09, 2016

New heights of convergence

Twitter, as per the second law, doubles down on social justice convergence:
To ensure people can continue to express themselves freely and safely on Twitter, we must provide more tools and policies. With hundreds of millions of Tweets sent per day, the volume of content on Twitter is massive, which makes it extraordinarily complex to strike the right balance between fighting abuse and speaking truth to power. It requires a multi-layered approach where each of our 320 million users has a part to play, as do the community of experts working for safety and free expression.

That’s why we are announcing the formation of the Twitter Trust & Safety Council, a new and foundational part of our strategy to ensure that people feel safe expressing themselves on Twitter.

As we develop products, policies, and programs, our Trust & Safety Council will help us tap into the expertise and input of organizations at the intersection of these issues more efficiently and quickly. In developing the Council, we are taking a global and inclusive approach so that we can hear a diversity of voices from organizations including:
  • Feminist Frequency
  • GLAAD
  • The Anti-Defamation League

It's as if they are literally Hell-bent on self-destruction. This is truly remarkable! I have never been more confident about the Alt Right's ability to seize the cultural high ground. There are more opportunities presenting themselves than we can possibly address at once.

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115 Comments:

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau February 09, 2016 10:47 AM  

The Twitter Ministry of Truth. Hooray for Big Brother.

Anonymous trk February 09, 2016 10:53 AM  

They (Twitter and some of the groups listed in article) seem REALLY interested in minors.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 February 09, 2016 10:54 AM  

Nothing for straight, white men?

That's heterophobic.

Blogger Gaiseric February 09, 2016 10:55 AM  

Crowd-sourced police state. Facebook doesn't seem so bad now after all... unless you live in Germany, I suppose.

Anonymous Alexander February 09, 2016 10:55 AM  

To ensure that people can continue doing X, we are going to change all the elements that made X possible in the first place.


From twitter to Christendom, they shout CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION when you try and point out the relationship between the roots and the fruits.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 February 09, 2016 10:57 AM  

Safe zones.
Registered and vetted ONLY.
Emotionally stable/gonad secure/>1 Standard deviation...need not apply.
CaptDMO

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis February 09, 2016 10:59 AM  

Speaking of SJW's, Lena Dunham is taking a break from her campaigning due to "endometriosis."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/08/health/lena-duhnam-endometriosis/index.html?sr=fbCNN020816lena-duhnam-endometriosis1143PMStoryLink&linkId=21099825

Wonder if the effects of multiple abortions has something to do with this. Or maybe she got some pebbles all lodged up in there?

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 February 09, 2016 11:01 AM  

Twitter/welfare/"higher" education/National Socialism
If you build it, they will come.
CaptDMO

Anonymous Soga February 09, 2016 11:03 AM  

Something like Twitter would be absurdly easy to build a replacement for. And slightly harder, but still absurdly easy: making the replacement have better features.

Time for me to dive headfirst into HTML5/Javascript! Can anyone recommend a good back-end to learn for website development?

Anonymous Euryale February 09, 2016 11:04 AM  

Lunatics.

Blogger Salt February 09, 2016 11:05 AM  

The "Trust and Safety Council."
Could Twitter possibly come up with a more Orwellian name for Anita's thought police committee?

— TheRalph (@TheRalphRetort) February 9, 2016


Here's a chart of Twitter's stock performance. http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/twtr/stock-chart See a trend?

OpenID denektenorsk February 09, 2016 11:06 AM  

I see the Evil Legion of Evil is not represented. I feel excluded and abused.

Anonymous Keener February 09, 2016 11:10 AM  

all those organizations and groups listed seem to be in some kind of a closed circle of bureacro-babble emitting currently fashionable contentless wordings. Safe, comfortable, protect, please report....the orgs talk to the other orgs and say they are 'working on...' Nothing ever gets down to ordinary people. This could be an interesting study. The hiring of babbling poseurs to babble to other poseurs. God it's such a mental sinkhole.

Blogger pyrrhus February 09, 2016 11:11 AM  

Of course, I'm sure Twitter is equally concerned with the rights of American Renaissance, Gun organizations and the Alt-right.......

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume February 09, 2016 11:18 AM  

"To ensure people can continue to express themselves freely and safely on Twitter, we must provide more tools and policies."

That belongs in the classics, right alongside:

-"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

And

-"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"

Anonymous Stickwick February 09, 2016 11:24 AM  

You guys are too cynical. The French Revolution had its Committee of Public Safety, and that turned out really well. I have full confidence that Twitter's Trust & Safety Council will be equally devoted to fellowship, freedom, and fairness.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner February 09, 2016 11:26 AM  

•Feminist Frequency GLAAD •The Anti-Defamation League"

Jewish lesbians will really be overrepresented.

as do the community of experts working for safety and free expression.=facts and reality hurt our tiny brains

Anonymous Don't reinvent the wheel February 09, 2016 11:42 AM  

@9

http://www.trsst.com
or http://gnu.io/social/try/
or a handful of other existing tools.
Don't waste time/energy reinventing the wheel, when it exists and is ready to go, just pick one and promote it widely as an alternative.

Blogger praetorian February 09, 2016 11:45 AM  

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Anonymous Bz February 09, 2016 11:51 AM  

"makes it extraordinarily complex to strike the right balance between fighting abuse and speaking truth to power."

I'm sure they will furrow their brows and make very involved and nuanced speeches at conferences. And yet it seems so obvious how Twitter Minitrust will go about it. You won't need to peek at the list of worthy organizations to guess correctly.

Blogger praetorian February 09, 2016 11:53 AM  

What are the conditions necessary for a preference cascade off of twitter?

As with [REDACTED] it seems like it would need to at least initially integrate/build off twitter. Normies on twitter are there for what? The celebrities?

Also tough would be the fact that any alternative would probably be used initially by spergy alt-righters and trolls, which would turn normies off if they were the face (or *a* face) of the new platform that the (((media))) could pump.

Blogger August February 09, 2016 11:54 AM  

I've recently heard of ipfs and protothreads.

Blogger Noah B February 09, 2016 11:56 AM  

Having lost the debate at all levels, they are now desperately trying to silence us. When an attack is working, keep it going. Keep posting & troll harder.

Blogger Nick S February 09, 2016 11:59 AM  

@16

Ha! Good point. The counter-revolutionaries are always portrayed as the "bad guys" until they're not.

Blogger Noah B February 09, 2016 11:59 AM  

Twitter's stock is at a record low now, but it still has plenty of room to fall! Just saying.

Anonymous Dave February 09, 2016 12:00 PM  

If Twitter is so ripe for replacement why hasn't it happened? If people are truly worried about it they should leave and encourage all their followers to do so as well. I've left already, but I have no influence so as for now it's just a drop in the barrel.

Blogger Shimshon February 09, 2016 12:01 PM  

I can't see how there's that great a barrier to entry to the Twitter niche.

Anonymous Brad February 09, 2016 12:02 PM  

Oh dark lord, shall we cancel our twitter accounts already? I await your command.

Blogger Mister Mystery February 09, 2016 12:04 PM  

This just fills me with despair. The cultural marxists are much more clever than the opposition, they are extremely-well funded and they get one victory after another, and even then most people (non-sjw ones) think they have good intentions and use their pet buzzwords (notice cuckservatives cooing that Republicans voted for two hispanics and a black guy while dems voted for old white people! non-white good, white bad! - there is no bigger victory than when even cult marxists' supposed enemies use their talking points.)

They know how to win. Even now the opposition to them is weak. And I think they have the upper hand because it is much easier to destroy than to build, and destroying is all they do. It's not too hard to flood a country with millions of third worlders - but reversing that is a hellish task.

I am not saying this as a defeatist, though sometimes I feel that way. I want everyone to realize that the enemy is very strong and to learn from their victories. You have to push back as hard as possible. They aren't just blue-haired unstable women - they are everywhere, leading almost every institution. In your child's classroom and on your wife's television screen. We need all hands on deck and lots of determination to destroy them. And they must be destroyed.

Blogger CarpeOro February 09, 2016 12:04 PM  

Freedom is inherently a risk proposition - the chance to excel is the chance to fail, the chance to make incredibly good decisions is balanced by the chance to make horribly bad ones. To maintain a society there has to be some risk factor, but also some limitations - call it safety. The problem is that women are all about safety and the limitation of freedom to achieve it. All these SJW types are beholden and stuck on the feminine imperative over all other considerations. They over balance the equation the other way, causing stasis, followed by entropy, and achieve the opposite of their original desire of safety.

When the forces of nature are out of balance you get evil spirit that can pretend to be a man, but it can't last forever. Even an idiot can come along in the end and topple them.

OT: interesting piece about where all the QE went instead of inflation: http://www.usagold.com/publications/NewsViewsJan2016.html

Blogger Salt February 09, 2016 12:05 PM  

If Twitter is so ripe for replacement why hasn't it happened?

Such fail. Falls under the 'because it hasn't happened yet, it won't' rubric.

Blogger The Other Robot February 09, 2016 12:06 PM  

Why cancel your accounts.

Why not simply complain about as many tweets you can for being racist, sexist, homophobic, racially insensitive to Hispanic Canadians or whatever you can.

That's bound to tie up so many of their administrators that they will give up after a while.

Blogger The Other Robot February 09, 2016 12:09 PM  

Meanwhile, is this a joke?

301,000 small weapons owners in a population of 80M is a skyrocket?

Blogger Nick S February 09, 2016 12:13 PM  

Twitter attempting to game the gamers? Yeah, that's gonna work...NOT!

Anonymous Dave February 09, 2016 12:13 PM  

My point is there has been anger at Twitter for a considerable time so if not now when. It's really great to talk about, and hear about, how all these SJW sites are ripe for the plucking, but something has to happen. Cause right now the only thing happening is people bitching about Twitter and Facebook and then going to update their accounts on those same sites.

Blogger The Other Robot February 09, 2016 12:17 PM  

OT, but a headline at Breitbart on Sander's run for President reminds me of a line from a song:

Everybody's got their Jews in life to pay

Blogger Rabbi B February 09, 2016 12:20 PM  

Remember it's always for your own good. You all should learn to be more grateful:

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under of robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some points be satiated; but those who torment us for their own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

They may be more likely to go to heaven yet at the same time likely to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on the level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

- CS Lewis

Blogger Noah B February 09, 2016 12:26 PM  

For those who want to strike back at Twitter for suppressing pro-liberty, pro-civilization speech, here's a thought experiment: what would happen if there were a widespread campaign to troll their advertisers?

Those who buy promoted Tweets pay based on user interaction. So, while on the one hand replying to an advertiser's Tweet actually earns Twitter revenue, it also costs the advertiser. I would guess that advertisers are going to be extremely reluctant to pay for large volumes of negative feedback from users, possibly leading to an exodus of advertisers from Twitter.

Any thoughts on this strategy?

Blogger FALPhil February 09, 2016 12:27 PM  

@20 As with [REDACTED] it seems like it would need to at least initially integrate/build off twitter.

Yes, there is a galaxy full of opportunities out there. I never understood Twitter's business model. No wonder their stock price is at an all time low. They have no way of turning a profit.

Anonymous ZaijiaN February 09, 2016 12:28 PM  

Has there been any serious attempts at designing a twitter alternative yet?

It's not enough to simply duplicate Twitter - the goals of Anonymity and prevention of censorship (Federation) need to be baked into the new architecture.

Anonymity for obvious reasons, but the challenge there is to also provide Authenticity (i.e. did a well-known but anonymous account actually say something). Something like OpenID with PGP signing perhaps.

Federation (distributed architecture) is needed because A) any twitter alternative is likely to have the capital to scale vertically (processing, storage, and bandwidth) to meet current capacity and B) to prevent centralization and thus prevent censhorship - can't stop the signal. A design that piggybacks off of BitTorrent technologies or even Napster would work. As a bonus, it's a powerful symbol of democratization.

In particular, this distributed aspect is important to get any Twitter alternative off the ground. It provides a low barrier to entry, as individual PCs/small servers could serve as the initial distribution network - again, think about how Napster took over college campuses in the late 90s.

Blogger Noah B February 09, 2016 12:35 PM  

Good points, ZaijiaN. A decentralized model would also help fight the threat of government-forced censorship, a huge problem now in Germany.

Blogger FALPhil February 09, 2016 12:36 PM  

@39 ...A) any twitter alternative is likely to have the capital to scale vertically (processing, storage, and bandwidth) to meet current capacity ...

Twitter is essentially free for users, so you would need to come up with a business model that would generate enough revenue to cover you costs, including contribution margin, yet still attract people. From a competition standpoint, that is what you are dealing with, and it is also why Twitter is not economically viable.

Anonymous szIlk February 09, 2016 12:37 PM  

" Twitter is massive, which makes it extraordinarily complex to strike the right balance between fighting abuse and speaking truth to power."

Uh, Twitter, you just said that same thing twice and now more people understand the Hobson's choice you have set up.....

Anonymous ZaijiaN February 09, 2016 12:42 PM  

A) any twitter alternative is likely to have the capital to scale vertically (processing, storage, and bandwidth) to meet current capacity

TYPO, that should read UNLIKELY

Anonymous Broken Arrow February 09, 2016 12:47 PM  

My guess is one of the first moves will be block lists from the organizations listed which will automatically opt-in everyone unless they want to be opted out. So there will be tens of thousands of accounts which users will suddenly not see anymore. These block lists will have hashstags and key words tied to them so like #GG will simply be blocked automatically for users unless the specifically ask to see them.

Twitter gets to take the high ground and say that they allow free speech (you can tweet about GG all day) and protects people (everyone is by default blocked from the evil GG).

The MSM will love this because they will simply claim that hardly anyone is re-tweeting certain events so it's not news worthy (like the Cologne assaults), because most people will never even know it existed.

I think this is a somewhat viable business model as it can turn twitter into a leftist platform discussing current pop culture events like the Super Bowl half-time show. Sure, it limits Twitter's appeal and size, but there are still millions who will use it. It will probably be bought as the stock price continues to drop.

Anonymous Germanicus February 09, 2016 12:52 PM  

They want people to feel free to "speak truth to power" and then partner up with GLAAD, Feminist Frequency, and the ADL-- aka three of the biggest organizations fighting against freedom of speech.

Echos of Maoist China's Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom campaign where people were encouraged to criticize the government openly before the government arrested anyone who said anything critical?

Blogger SS February 09, 2016 12:58 PM  

The reason no one has started a viable alternative for Twitter that uses the same basic structure and keeps away from what other soc-media networks do is because Twitter has never made money. It loses millions every year. Whichever one of you billionaires that won't miss about 1/4 of your fortune can go for it. I'll keep using Twitter until I'm banned and sit out of social media for a while until something else catches my eye.

Anonymous Senghendrake February 09, 2016 1:01 PM  

"Trust & Safety Council"

Yep. They've done it. They've actually created the Comité de salut publique. I wonder if they are self-aware enough to appreciate their naming decision?

Blogger dlw February 09, 2016 1:02 PM  

Twitter was useful because of the limits of dumb phones.

Smartphones can run real mail and news readers.

Forward! Retro-tech rulez!

Blogger tz February 09, 2016 1:02 PM  

What would be useful is to publish on a Raspberry Pi Zero or similar with a large SD card and customized software to insure integrity and security updates (and maybe cloud backup). It would have your "tweets", publish timeline, images and videos, etc. and you would control your privacy settings. It could probably even be monetized. You could also do it on something like Amazon AWS for those who don't care if their data is in the cloud or local, and possibly use bittorrent type technology to distribute without overusing bandwidth if you don't want distribution.

Then you do a cloud like "search engine" and maybe cache or distribute the content if someone gets popular to save bandwidth. These aggregators could be competetive - the SJW engine can refuse some, but there would be totally open engines, and maybe even specialty engines - sports, politics, celebrity gossip.
If you replace twitter with another twitter, you're back to having the network effect, and if the company becomes public or whomever is leading it is pushed, the SJWs will take it over too.

Right now you have independent blogs like this that don't need "social media" - Imagine if everyone had something similar instead of having to go to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. People publish things in word, excel, pdf or the LibreOffice equivalents. And people have websites already, forums exist.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 09, 2016 1:04 PM  

What, no SPLC?

Anonymous BGKB February 09, 2016 1:04 PM  

Keep posting & troll harder.

Unless you want to buy a new burner phone every month it will be hard to keep posting.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/02/08/twitters-attempt-to-silence-generation-trump/

the goals of Anonymity and prevention of censorship (Federation)

Feminists called up the principles of high school kids during the 2012 election to cry about how mean their tweets are.

Blogger Eli Owen February 09, 2016 1:06 PM  

If they block/delete all the "offenders" wouldn't that make twitter a large echo chamber with the progressives patting each other on the back. I couldn't see how that would bring about any change they desire. Gamergate will still thrive elsewhere for instance. I never sensed it's survival was tied to twitter.

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 1:08 PM  

@7 Watchu talkin bout Willis
Wonder if the effects of multiple abortions has something to do with this. Or maybe she got some pebbles all lodged up in there?
The keys to LaMarr's 2002 BMW, actually

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 09, 2016 1:10 PM  

@dlw

Creating an IRC client for smartphones would seem to be pretty doable. In fact, (checks phone ...) well seems like they already exist.

I have never used Twitter. What's the difference between it and IRC, except for IRC being decentralized?

Blogger Nick S February 09, 2016 1:12 PM  

Unless you want to buy a new burner phone every month it will be hard to keep posting.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/02/08/twitters-attempt-to-silence-generation-trump/


Welcome to the algorithm age.

OpenID basementhomebrewer February 09, 2016 1:13 PM  

@52 What do you think a safe space is but an echo chamber? This is their goal. They want an echo chamber that they can claim represents everyone. SJWs always converge something that was at one time free from oppressive speech rules. They then apply speech rules but continue to represent the organization as representative of all opinions.

When a contrary opinion comes along they will say "well no one is talking about it on twitter" as an excuse for why it's not a popular(in their world popular = valid) idea.

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 1:19 PM  

Any twitter replacement has to be BETTER than twitter. It should also leverage off of twitter, by. for example, autoposting your entries to twitter as well, being albe to pull your follow list, etc.
A primary improvememnt for me would be separation of the tweet itself from the list of @mentions. That would make it possible to send to multiple people without reducing themessage to gibberish. Also, a sane "conversation" algorithm that actually shows the conversation.

Anonymous A Dude February 09, 2016 1:32 PM  

I saw a tweet by Jim Rome criticizing Cam Newton. Twitter needs to shut that hater down, man.

Blogger Doseux February 09, 2016 1:38 PM  

Femfreq, GLAAD, and the ADL? Really? That's amazing. If I could upload a five minute audio file of me laughing, I would.

It's like the perfect storm of everything we've been warning against.

I wonder how long until Twitter sees a massive hemorrhage of users.

Blogger JDC February 09, 2016 1:39 PM  

I wonder how long until Twitter sees a massive hemorrhage of users.

Massive hemorrhaging due to non-SJW twitter abortions.

Anonymous Roundtine February 09, 2016 1:52 PM  

Weibo is already superior to Twitter. The Tencent platform is also superior. They are like Paypal, Steam, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook rolled into one.

Anonymous BGKB February 09, 2016 1:56 PM  

Twitter is allowing the picture of probably the only white guy groping women in the cologne attacks.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2016/01/exclusive-security-camera-footage-of.html

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 2:02 PM  

@61
So we should let the Chinese govt censor our tweets rather than Twitter?
One commie is as good as another, I suppose...

Anonymous Alsos February 09, 2016 2:32 PM  

@44: "I think this is a somewhat viable business model as it can turn twitter into a leftist platform discussing current pop culture events like the Super Bowl half-time show."

The key is to strike the right balance of Party propaganda and prolefeed.

Blogger JimR February 09, 2016 2:36 PM  

"Something like Twitter would be absurdly easy to build a replacement for. And slightly harder, but still absurdly easy: making the replacement have better features."

Sure, for a few hundred thousand tweets an hour. For the scale that twitter operates on? No.

"Time for me to dive headfirst into HTML5/Javascript! Can anyone recommend a good back-end to learn for website development?"

eyah, you're not going to be building a twitter replacement.

When you get to that level of scale, nothing is simple.

Blogger 1337kestrel February 09, 2016 2:49 PM  

eyah, you're not going to be building a twitter replacement.

When you get to that level of scale, nothing is simple.


You just need one highly competent expert and a few other competent guys, working for six months to a year, a couple million bucks, plus an audience, and everyone needs to be on the same page as far as the ideological agenda. Once you have that it's all down hill.

Blogger weka February 09, 2016 2:52 PM  

Just made a place on plerb... http://plerb.com/group/Ilk

It's public. Have fun.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2016 3:05 PM  

Any time lefties are spouting off about "speaking truth to power" they are trying to find a way to bone you

Anonymous Axe Head February 09, 2016 3:07 PM  

@65 Most of the people making those "few hundred thousand tweets an hour" are removed by ideological filters.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2016 3:07 PM  

"To ensure people can continue to express themselves freely and safely on Twitter"

They say this while attempting to prevent people from speaking freely. What a crock of S***

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2016 3:10 PM  

"In developing the Council, we are taking a global and inclusive approach so that we can hear a diversity of voices from organizations including:
Feminist Frequency
GLAAD
The Anti-Defamation League"

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There's so many red flags here it's time to reassemble the Legion of Doom. Twitter is getting a few extra whirls around the bowl before flushing out the bottom.

Blogger JimR February 09, 2016 3:16 PM  

@69 I wasn't referring to one user making that many tweets.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 09, 2016 3:16 PM  

@dlw

Creating an IRC client for smartphones would seem to be pretty doable. In fact, (checks phone ...) well seems like they already exist.

I have never used Twitter. What's the difference between it and IRC, except for IRC being decentralized?

Anonymous Soga February 09, 2016 3:19 PM  

@65

You seem to be under the mistaken notion that everybody would simultaneously leave Twitter for its replacement. It would grow over time, and advertising and various other types of funding would support multiple servers to handle increasing stress.

That's like saying a siege needs to be big enough to last only one day, so why bother sieging castles if you don't have the biggest, baddest army around?

The only thing a siege has to do is cut off supplies, pull deserters, and poison the castle's self-sustainment operations (like agriculture).

In Twitter's case, they've already poisoned their own self-sustainment. Hence convergence. Hence our host's declaration that they're making this easier on us.

Blogger SteelPalm February 09, 2016 3:22 PM  

Vox, you recently wrote, in a post about Facebook,

"Delete your account. It's obvious that all the big social media companies are, at the very least, SJW-friendly, but some like Amazon and Google, and even Twitter, are still playing reasonably fair.

Others, like Facebook, Goodreads, and Wikipedia, are not so much tilting the playing field as refusing to let the Right even enter it. So don't support them. You don't have to. You really don't."

to which I then replied

"Excellent post, although I would add Twitter to the Facebook/Wikipedia/Goodreads scumbag categorization. I would almost argue they are slightly worse than Facebook."

Unfortunately, I was proven right.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 09, 2016 3:34 PM  

@75 You haven't been proven right yet. Roosh, Milo, Cernovich and even the Supreme Dark Lord haven't been banned from Twitter.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2016 3:46 PM  

@57 Danby

A primary improvememnt for me would be separation of the tweet itself from the list of @mentions. That would make it possible to send to multiple people without reducing themessage to gibberish. Also, a sane "conversation" algorithm that actually shows the conversation.
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Great ideas. A lot of posts do look like gibberish when it's a 3 or 4 word sentence and a bunch of @xxx @xxx @xxx

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2016 3:47 PM  

@59 Doseux

I wonder how long until Twitter sees a massive hemorrhage of users.
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I wonder how long they will pretend they are not using losers, once it begins.

Blogger weka February 09, 2016 3:47 PM  

They have the dangerous speech project on the council. I give spacebunny days before ban, and vox a week or so.

Twitter deactivated. Been using screenshots instead of embedded links in the last month. I was born in the year of the rat, and I know when to jump.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2016 3:48 PM  

@78 Were-Puppy
I wonder how long they will pretend they are not using losers, once it begins.
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Well now, that came out funny! I mean losing users, but hey, using losers fits just as well :P

Blogger FALPhil February 09, 2016 3:51 PM  

@56 @52 What do you think a safe space is but an echo chamber? This is their goal. They want an echo chamber that they can claim represents everyone.

#EchoChamberAlert

Blogger RobertT February 09, 2016 3:59 PM  

torch 'em. it was great while it lasted.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau February 09, 2016 4:07 PM  

A safe space to be protected from differing opinions

Anonymous Scintan February 09, 2016 4:08 PM  

The cultural marxists are much more clever than the opposition, they are extremely-well funded and they get one victory after another,

The drive, and need, for profits puts any non-SJW constructed company at a huge disadvantage when it comes to businesses of any real size.

It's sort of like "R" rated movies versus "PG=13" movies.

Blogger Respect Orcs Now February 09, 2016 4:15 PM  

Fellow VFM. A throw away email account and twitter account is 3-5 minutes of your time until they lock it down to phone # and then you'll witness an exodus.

I issue a challenge - see how quickly you can get ban-hammered on throw aways.

Blogger Respect Orcs Now February 09, 2016 4:17 PM  

I should add that they IP log so use a browser with VPN or public Wifi.

Blogger Student in Blue February 09, 2016 4:31 PM  

@73 Ron Winkleheimer
I have never used Twitter. What's the difference between it and IRC, except for IRC being decentralized?

A lot. IRC is essentially a chatroom, whereas Twitter is standing on a square and just shouting and anyone and everyone can hear it, although most people try to ignore the crazy people.

I'd really say that IRC and Twitter are almost complete opposites, despite both being arguably social technology.

Anonymous Roundtine February 09, 2016 4:37 PM  

@63

As long as you do not make a call for Chinese democracy, in Chinese, the censors could care less. Or connect with OccupyHK people. It's like the Asia Times Forum, no discussion of Thai monarchy is allowed. Having clearly defined lines is an improvement upon the current system.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx February 09, 2016 5:27 PM  

@80. Were-Puppy

@78 Were-Puppy
I wonder how long they will pretend they are not using losers, once it begins.
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Well now, that came out funny! I mean losing users, but hey, using losers fits just as well :P


I like the first version best. Answer to that: never. It's double-downs all the way down.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 09, 2016 5:33 PM  

Were-Puppy: "Well now, that came out funny! I mean losing users, but hey, using losers fits just as well"

Funny thing is I read it the first time as you meant it, not as it was written.

Thank you for your devotion to diversity and accommodating the needs of the Dyslexic Spoonerites.

Blogger M.S. February 09, 2016 5:45 PM  

I remember when 4chan was taken over by SJWs, the need to create our own alternative institutions was discussed on this blog. Well, what alternatives to Twitter are there?

Blogger SciVo February 09, 2016 5:46 PM  

Ron Winkleheimer @50: What, no SPLC?

Took the words right out of my mouth, you did. The full list is much longer than the three in the quote above, but the $₱£¢ isn't on it. Perhaps they're even getting a bad reputation among other SJWs?

Blogger dfordoom February 09, 2016 6:00 PM  

@44. Broken Arrow

So there will be tens of thousands of accounts which users will suddenly not see anymore.

Exactly. They don't need to ban free speech. All they need to do is to make sure that free speech doesn't get heard. You can say whatever you like but no-one will ever hear it.

I think that people here are massively underestimating the SJWs. They have out-manoeuvred us every time. They have won every battle that matters. They have marginalised any opposition to the point where it can safely be ignored.

The big point that is being missed is that they don't want to crush opposition completely. They need to allow a tiny powerless opposition, to serve the same purpose as Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984. They need to allow the survival of a handful of evil cishet patriarchal racist sexist homophobic white male villains so they can be used to frighten the masses and to justify the continuing SJW campaign of repression. As long as that minority remains tiny and entirely powerless (which is already the case) the SJWs will continue to allow them to survive.

That's why they allow Vox to maintain this blog. People like Vox are ideal Emmanuel Goldsteins. If Vox didn't exist they would have to invent him. If the alt-right didn't exist the SJWs would have to invent it. We are all Emmanuel Goldstein.

Blogger praetorian February 09, 2016 6:12 PM  

We are all Emmanuel Goldstein.

If we are doomed, then let us go down swinging and laughing.

If not, well, then let's not go down, shall we?

Blogger VD February 09, 2016 6:50 PM  

I think that people here are massively underestimating the SJWs. They have out-manoeuvred us every time. They have won every battle that matters. They have marginalised any opposition to the point where it can safely be ignored.

It's easy to win when the other side isn't even on the field yet. Where is your faith? Where is your steel?

Anonymous JamesD February 09, 2016 7:07 PM  

So who looks out for the slams against Christianity? Not that we care, but I'm thinking about the principle of the matter.

Blogger Escoffier February 09, 2016 7:31 PM  

Sweet Jesus d4doom, nut up son.

Blogger Escoffier February 09, 2016 7:33 PM  

Instapundit just linked something called Quitter. Is this something?

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 7:42 PM  

So, Quitter.se is out there. I'm checking it out.

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 7:44 PM  

Also,
http://www.socialmediaalternatives.org/

Anonymous Rolf February 09, 2016 8:03 PM  

Soon opening at a computer near you -- TWITTER University!

At TU, you can double-major in Orwellian NewSpeak and SafeSpace Preservation Studies! Join Today!

oy-flippin'-vey.

Anonymous Malwyn's apprentice February 09, 2016 8:15 PM  

To ensure people can continue to express themselves freely and safely on Twitter, we must provide more tools and policies.

Only SJWs would believe that more rules will make people more free ...

Blogger Groot February 09, 2016 8:18 PM  

First, SJW convergence in astronomy, then biology. Now, Anthropology: The sexual misconduct case that has rocked anthropology. In the Irony Inspires Schadenfreude category, one learns that cheerleading for SJWs doesn't protect you from SJWs.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx February 09, 2016 9:26 PM  

@94. dfordoom

That's why they allow Vox to maintain this blog. People like Vox are ideal Emmanuel Goldsteins. If Vox didn't exist they would have to invent him. If the alt-right didn't exist the SJWs would have to invent it. We are all Emmanuel Goldstein.

Not quite, but at least you are thinking about these things. Emmanuel Goldstein is controlled opposition. He goes by many names, like Erza Pound, Osama Bin Ladin, Chomsky, Karl Marx, Jim or Alex Jones, Jack London, stormfront, etc. Check out Miles Mathis http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html for a much longer list. The difference is that they are controlled, fake, and ultimately traitors to the whole world including themselves and their own families. Some of them have even said as much (Dylan, Picasso, Khrushchev, Smedley Butler, McNamara, etc.).

'They' do not have the capacity to invent us, either- that is far beyond their talents. Meditate a bit on just how small they really are.

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 9:51 PM  

Word got out among conservatives on twitter about @quitter.se, and now they've closed registration

Blogger Danby February 09, 2016 9:58 PM  

So, quitter.se is an instance of social-gnu (or gnu-scial, whatever) a distributed-architecture twitter replacement. I'm working out right now what it will cost and how much effort and time to stand up a new instance, since the commies at quitter.se obviously have neither desire nor resources to be the conservative/freespeech tweeting platform.
email me at gruitmaster.gmail.com if you're in.

Blogger dfordoom February 10, 2016 3:48 AM  

@96. VD

It's easy to win when the other side isn't even on the field yet. Where is your faith? Where is your steel?

I sincerely hope our side does eventually take the field.

I don't say the war is unwinnable. I just think there are some on our side who underestimate the enemy. SJWs are often contemptible as individuals but those pulling the strings are smart, ruthless, focused and very rich.

The Cultural Marxist Long March Through the Institutions took decades. It will take decades to reclaim the lost ground.

It can be done, but it will require some very long-term thinking. It doesn't require numbers. The 20th century offers examples of small very well-disciplined, well-organised and highly motivated groups who were able to take power. The Bolsheviks were a handful of fanatics but they defeated their much more numerous and much more popular enemies on the Left. To win we'd need to be just as well-disciplined, just as well-organised, just as highly motivated and just as ruthless as the Bolsheviks. It will take a lot of faith and a lot of steel!

But Lenin did it. It pays to study Lenin's methods. One of the most evil men who ever lived but he knew how to win power.

Blogger dfordoom February 10, 2016 3:58 AM  

@105. Spartacus xxxxx

Not quite, but at least you are thinking about these things. Emmanuel Goldstein is controlled opposition.

The establishment doesn't necessarily need controlled opposition as such. What they need is contained opposition - opposition groups that are only permitted to operate within very narrow limits, and that can be crushed at any time.

The difference is that they are controlled, fake

They don't need to be fake. Was Emmanuel Goldstein really fake? Or was he real and simply so effectively contained that he served the purpose of a controlled opposition? After all he was based on Trotsky and Trotsky (loathsome as he was) wasn't fake. And in the unlikely event that such a contained opposition ever looks like getting out of control they always have the Ice Pick Option. Except today they don't need to be quite so crude. There are better ways to silence people without the necessity for an actual ice pick. Although if they ever felt really threatened I can see them going for the Gulag Option.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx February 10, 2016 5:02 AM  

@109. dfordoom

Was Emmanuel Goldstein really fake? Or was he real and simply so effectively contained that he served the purpose of a controlled opposition? After all he was based on Trotsky and Trotsky (loathsome as he was) wasn't fake. And in the unlikely event that such a contained opposition ever looks like getting out of control they always have the Ice Pick Option. Except today they don't need to be quite so crude. There are better ways to silence people without the necessity for an actual ice pick. Although if they ever felt really threatened I can see them going for the Gulag Option.

You're supposed to see them going for the Gulag Option. They'll be delighted to hear the programming paid off.

Goldstein didn't exist. He was no more real than was OBL or Orwell or Sandy Hook. The Trotsky=Goldstein theory is somewhat new to me, I don't think so though. Orwell was writing about Blair & Co. Trotsky is real long knives, and that's more like what they're focused on these days: each other. Look closely, the fractures and the factions are becoming a bit more apparent. Notice each new silent weapon they deploy anymore works against themselves at least as well- like asteroids or nukes that throw up debris across the world. We're just the little proto-mammals running around at the feet of the dinos, nothing to see here.

Blogger Charlie Martel February 10, 2016 7:19 PM  

@48 "We're proud to announce we're also partnering with Angry Birds. Red Guards will be volunteers in the community who are on the ground to witness the struggle against problematic speech."

Blogger Charlie Martel February 10, 2016 7:24 PM  

@59 I explain to sane relatives like my father that never use social media that 'harassment' to the SJW means Cowboys-Giants fans banter. He's a Giants fan.



Blogger Charlie Martel February 10, 2016 7:49 PM  

@105 How is that list any different than "you're a shill" posts on /pol/?

Blogger John Wright February 11, 2016 2:28 AM  

"Twitter Trust & Safety Council"

For real? Do these guys look through George Orwell's fiction LOOKING for creepy doublethink phrases to imitate?

Why not just call it the Committee on Public Safety? Or the Thoughtcrime Police?

Blogger John Wright February 11, 2016 2:30 AM  

" Orwell was writing about Blair & Co."

The book was written in 1948. Hence the title: he reversed the last two digits.

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