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Sunday, February 28, 2016

Rubio and Fox News sold out America

It doesn't get much more politically damning than this unexpected news of a media sellout. And it's more than just the usual anti-Republican hit piece from the New York Times, because it leaves Rush Limbaugh, of all people, in a position to confirm it:
A few weeks after Senator Marco Rubio joined a bipartisan push for an immigration overhaul in 2013, he arrived alongside Senator Chuck Schumer at the executive dining room of News Corporation’s Manhattan headquarters for dinner.

Their mission was to persuade Rupert Murdoch, the owner of the media empire, and Roger Ailes, the chairman and chief executive of its Fox News division, to keep the network’s on-air personalities from savaging the legislation and give it a fighting chance at survival.

Mr. Murdoch, an advocate of immigration reform, and Mr. Ailes, his top lieutenant and the most powerful man in conservative television, agreed at the Jan. 17, 2013, meeting to give the senators some breathing room.

But the media executives, highly attuned to the intensifying anger in the Republican grass roots, warned that the senators also needed to make their case to Rush Limbaugh, the king of conservative talk radio, who held enormous sway with the party’s largely anti-immigrant base.
Looks like Donald Trump's instincts served him well when he refused to genuflect before the cuckservatives at Fox. And Rush doesn't appear to be inclined to give either Fox or Rubio any cover.

"Mr. Limbaugh shed light on his interactions with the senators when he told a caller frustrated with his criticism of Mr. Rubio that the immigration position the senator had advocated “comes right out of the Gang of Eight bill.” Mr. Limbaugh added, “I’ve had it explained to me by no less than Senator Schumer.”

I assumed Rubio was done after Trump beats him in his home state of Florida, but after this revelation, I think he's done now. Even establishment Republicans will be appalled by his successful attempt to corrupt Fox News and turn it against conservatives, to say nothing of their joint attempt to turn Rush Limbaugh.

I like Fox and its pretty blondes better than the ABCNNBCBS cabal to which it is the alternative, but I've never trusted it and I haven't watched it in over a decade. People at Fox helped kill my Media Whores book at Thomas Nelson because it criticized Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Malkin, so I'm well aware that they're on the Republican Left, but this anti-American, anti-conservative collusion with pro-immigration Republicans and Democrats is stunning.

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Blogger White Devil February 28, 2016 4:42 AM  

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Anonymous Steve February 28, 2016 5:05 AM  

I've been fascinated by this US election cycle and watched several of the debates.

Rubio never looked like a contender to me. Granted, I'm not American, so have no Columba Bush in this fight, etc. etc. and no special insight into what US voters want. But I can't imagine Americans making him their president, because:

* He's a lightweight. Even before Chris Christie bitchslapped him on national television, you could tell Rubio was all glib soundbites, vapid morning TV personality smile, and little else. I've seen a lot of shit politicians in my time, but that guy might as well have a tramp stamp saying "OBVIOUS PUPPET". Obama is a lightweight too, but he looks and sounds like a leader when it matters and he had a powerful racial narrative going for him. Rubio looks like a youth pastor who's just a bit too keen on taking teenage boys on spiritual retreats.

* The gayface thing. I don't know if Marco Rubio sucks dicks or not, but there's something off about him. He's an odd little man. US presidents tend to project themselves as the sort of men you could imagine as your Dad, not your creepy uncle who doesn't get invited to family reunions.

* He has zero background/credibility for the job. All the other guys are either senior elected officials or a world-famous billionaire or a celebrated brain surgeon. Yes, it didn't stop Obama, but see above. Rubio is no Obama.

And maybe Rubio himself never expected to be taken too seriously as a presidential contender. It was supposed to be Jeb!

So who put Rubio up to it, why, and what's their plan when he inevitably fizzles out like day-old foam?

Anonymous Mr. Rational February 28, 2016 5:05 AM  

Personally, I thought the obvious disgust Rubio's wife feels for him and the revelations of the performances at the gay club and his enthusiasm for "foam parties" was the last nail in his coffin, but this works too.

It is long past time for the GOPe to hit the unemployment line, and for the GOP to become Sailer's GAP.

Blogger beerme February 28, 2016 5:20 AM  

Narco Lubio appears to be gayer than AIDS.

Blogger Doc Rampage February 28, 2016 5:42 AM  

One of the myths of the media is that Fox News is on the Republican side. Surveys have shown that all of the national TV news shows are staffed by roughly 90% Democrats except for Fox News which is only 60% Democrats. They were never a pro-Republican channel; they just looked that way because they were less biased towards the Democrats than everyone else.

Of course I'm talking about the news department here, not the commentators like Bill O'Reilly and Shawn Hannity. I'd love to hear what they have to say about this. Did they let the new organization stifle their opinion shows?

Blogger Stilicho February 28, 2016 5:47 AM  

La Vida Loca is the teenager trying to justify his seat at the adult table during a family gathering. Chuck Schumer is the creepy uncle who keeps encouraging his natterings while stroking his leg under the table.

Blogger Stilicho February 28, 2016 5:51 AM  

Doc, O'Reilly is pro-immigration so I doubt there was anything to stifle.

Blogger David Power February 28, 2016 6:02 AM  

No one is enjoying Trumps' pooning of the establishment press more than I am, but if you guys think he is going to really chase the money lenders out of the temple, you are only setting yourself up to be let down.


Donald Trump Grand Marshall in the Salute to Israel Parade: https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/703711236865720320/photo/1

Blogger SciVo February 28, 2016 6:02 AM  

Steve wrote:And maybe Rubio himself never expected to be taken too seriously as a presidential contender. It was supposed to be Jeb!

So who put Rubio up to it, why, and what's their plan when he inevitably fizzles out like day-old foam?


The people at that level don't have a plan. They get success by going one step at a time, process-oriented. Here's a Trump example:

"When asked about who Trump is thinking about for vice president, Stone replied nobody. “People presuppose that he’s diabolical, he’s just not like that, I think right now he’s focused on Nevada and will be until the polls close. And then tomorrow he’ll focus on the next round of primaries.” He added, “I don’t think he’s thought that far ahead nor does he have to.”

Stone recalled a conversation with Trump in the lead up the debates, “When I asked how he’d do in the debates. He said ‘I don’t know, I’ve never been in one before. Let’s see how it goes.’ I think he’s very in the moment.”"

Blogger SS February 28, 2016 6:03 AM  

Is media whores the one you were paid to not write. Does that mean it can not be published?

Blogger VD February 28, 2016 6:08 AM  

Does that mean it can not be published?

Yes. Because it isn't written.

Anonymous Mr. Rational February 28, 2016 6:12 AM  

@8 Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can grab a rock.

Trump picks his battles.  He may just be setting up the banksters for a well-deserved fall, and it's not like he's not clever enough to do that.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2016 February 28, 2016 6:28 AM  

I think you'd be wrong if you suspect Rupert Murdoch of a political agenda. The man really is all about saleable product. He has no interest in left right conservative progressive globalism nationalism. His business is the product. He's there to sell news.
"What's good for Fox is good for your country". It's that simple.

His success is tunnel vision for marketing product.

He is the same mold as Henry Ford. He's making stuff for consumers. He might have a thousand opinions on politics but he won't let it get in the way of selling news, images, sounds, advertising space.

Blogger Krul February 28, 2016 6:30 AM  

David Power wrote:No one is enjoying Trumps' pooning of the establishment press more than I am, but if you guys think he is going to really chase the money lenders out of the temple, you are only setting yourself up to be let down.

I'd settle for getting a better deal. We could renegotiate, you might say.

Blogger Elocutioner February 28, 2016 7:13 AM  

Interested to see if the next Fox debate happens or not.

Blogger Gaiseric February 28, 2016 7:16 AM  

#13. You'd be very wrong on that. Murdoch is the co-chair for Partnership for a New American Economy.

Which, as you can probably guess, is all about replacing the Old Americans. Murdoch has written WSJ opinion pieces on the subject; he's all over it. He's very, very much an agenda man when it comes to open borders.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 28, 2016 7:24 AM  

I can honestly say I've never really liked FOX all that much.

But it was the only game in town if you were on the right. At least until the internet came along.

Rubio isn't bad about most things but he absolutely dodges, spins, twirls, whirls, ducks, dances, weaves and pretends to be invisible on the subject of Amnesty.

There is zero reason to believe that he has changed his mind on that issue one bit.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2016 February 28, 2016 7:29 AM  

my point being Gaiseric politics exists as a vehicle for selling product. The European Union, NAFTA, all just market to sell product. If strident nationalism was good for Fox, he'd be right there with it.

"What's good for Fox is good for your country". That's who he is. IMHO.
News of the World could be ditched to sell product. It was good publicity.

Blogger Doom February 28, 2016 7:41 AM  

I am not surprised at all. Actually, I sort of suspected FOX would sell, they are already, pretty much, on that side of things. Their talking heads aren't opinion creators, they are simply repeaters. And, as you said, their boss is on the wrong side of the immigration thing and has been all along.

I simply don't think this will affect Rubio at all. Most of his support comes from those who are on that side of things. That isn't even considered a trick, really. Just doing what they do, how they do it. Perhaps the base could light enough fires to make Rubio too hot to stay near, though I doubt it. Those who are still with Rube don't care. Most who are with him are hoping he and the other GOPe candidates can pull enough of the vote to steal it from Trump (probably hoping Cruz sells, which I suspect he will unless Trump has something really good on him, or a much better offer). None of the others are real candidates, at this point. Their support is fiction, too.

We'll see, I suppose. But that is my bet.

Blogger Matt Edwards February 28, 2016 7:41 AM  

It's not a revelation that Fox has been sliding towards establishment cronyism. That's been going on for years, and is a natural result of power and lack of competition (for conservative viewers).
It's also not a revelation that Rubio at least went on a PR campaign in support of the Gang of Eight bill. He went on Rush's show I guess, but I also heard him on the Mark Levin show (to this day, I think Levin is mad that Rubio lied to him directly on air).

The only part that's new by this self-serving revelation by the New York Times is that Rubio and Schumer lobbied Murdoch directly, and behind closed doors. While being a breach of trust, it's hardly surprising given both the history of Fox and the PR campaign going on at the time elsewhere.

Blogger Matt Edwards February 28, 2016 7:43 AM  

P.S. I'm reluctant to let myself get worked up about this because that's the NYT's obvious purpose. They sure aren't doing this as a public service.

OpenID simplytimothy February 28, 2016 7:45 AM  

@2 So who put Rubio up to it, why, and what's their plan ....?

Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse named it "The Splitter Strategy"

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=splitter+strategy

If you have ever wondered why all the Rove election results where razor thin wins, the Splitter Strategy provides a compelling answer.

To answer your direct question, Rubio is there to Split the anti-Jeb(!) vote in Florida, thereby handing Jeb(!) the state when Jeb(!) only pulls about 20% of the GOP electorate in FLA.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 28, 2016 7:45 AM  

Holy shit, I'm so damned mad tonight. First, I learn that the Republican establishment may do what they've bitched about in the past--which is make a third-party candidate to try to sabotage their uncontrollable primary victor. But then? This Marco Rubio betrayal.

I've never hated the Republican Party more than I do now.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr February 28, 2016 7:54 AM  

There's a business opportunity here...a truly conservative news channel. Fox appears conservative only by comparison to the alternatives.

Blogger tz February 28, 2016 8:00 AM  

Pot journal correctly reports color of kettle.
It is hard to control the story when you've become the story.
So much for the henhouse guards.

Blogger Salt February 28, 2016 8:09 AM  

I listened to Donald Trump, Jr. last night, in an interview. He was quite candid. He openly talked about his father, his successes and his failures.

What I got from it is that, sure, people point to his failures. But they are far less than his successes. Not every decision has been spot on. His father is only human, after all. But he's supported both D and R. Of course. That's business, not politics. Yes, Donald is pro-immigration. That doesn't translate to doors wide-open immigration. The Donald is about taking care of the home-front first.

If his son is to be believed at all, then Donald is all about doing what he says he wants to do. My thought is that Donald's being like a businessman here, in his campaigning. He's negotiating. And like a shrewd negotiator, he's not letting the cat out of the bag, any exactness about anything, till time is right.

I was very impressed at how his son handled the interview.

Anonymous RedJack February 28, 2016 8:09 AM  

@13 Remember who Murdoch's new wife is. He is bought and paid for, and the pillow talk is getting to him. It is amazing to me that the Chinese have used this tactic for thousands of years, and yet no one seems to recognize it.

Blogger tz February 28, 2016 8:13 AM  

One way to build an audience is to import new listeners.

Blogger VD February 28, 2016 8:16 AM  

Remember who Murdoch's new wife is.

I don't think Jerry Hall is an agent of the Chinese government.

Blogger tz February 28, 2016 8:24 AM  

The media and political establishment are fighting a 2nd generation war - lots of rules, procedures, etc. Trump is out-maneuvering them. He is where he can't be. Behind their Maginot lines.

They can't cut off his funding, everyone knows he has bars and strip clubs, divorced, etc. nor can they trip him up on policy - he doesn't use a teleprompter nor practice debates. He already admitted he was a crony, but he had to deal with the political corruption.

The difference is Trump is not pretending and has done almost everything he set out to do in his entire business career.

The GOP keeps saying we're sorry we could do nothing for the last three decades about the debt and socialism.

Blogger Elocutioner February 28, 2016 8:25 AM  

tz wrote:It is hard to control the story when you've become the story.

So much for the henhouse guards.


The fourth estate is a fifth column. At least you used to know where they stood before the mid-century fantasy of "objective" journalism. Most online sources don't hide their ideological biases, seems to be the natural order.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 28, 2016 8:26 AM  

It took a while but I got my wife to get to the point not to turn on the TV news, she still takes it in her FB feed but the written word is easier on the mind than image and propaganda blah, blah feed from the stupidvision.

Blogger tz February 28, 2016 8:26 AM  

I'm more worried about Ted Cruz long-time wife, Heidi (CFR and Goldman's geisha?)

Blogger David of One February 28, 2016 8:42 AM  

For me it is interesting to see how a person's name can match their actions in life.

Marco ... frame, framing, setting -> in this context I'd extend it to "posturing"

Rubio ... red

My initial thought about 'red' as in red communist China ... Soviet.

Certainly US 'red' states as in 'republican' or 'conservative' is a very strong association today especially as the Republican Party leadership is clearly first and foremost concerned about power and control in a very communistic/socialist vein.

So while I'm indulging myself ... what of Theodore Cruz?

Theodore ... "God-given"
Cruz ... "Cross ... The Cross of Christ"

Anonymous farmer Tom February 28, 2016 9:15 AM  

Interesting perspective.

But it really begs some questions that I don't have time to engage with you right now. Going to be late for church.

If Limbaugh is a reliable source of information on this issue, then are you going to consider his thinking/opinion on who stopped Rubio/Schumer from getting the amnesty bill passed?

If Trump gave money to, and supported the people who gave us Rubio/Schumer's amnesty bill, can he really be trusted on immigration now, when what he's purposing is a path to citizenship almost exactly like the one in that bill?

Is a guy who has hired untold hundreds of illegals from Poland/Mexico and God knows where else, really to be trusted when he know he wants cheap labor to work in his business empire?

Just a few of the questions that popped into my head while I was reading this post.

Blogger Matt Edwards February 28, 2016 9:35 AM  

35. farmer Tom
+1

Blogger pyrrhus February 28, 2016 9:39 AM  

@35 All this nattering about Trump really begs the question. There is no one else. Cruz is not eligible, and his connection with Goldman makes it impossible for him to run a populist campaign or fight illegal immigration. Rubio is an empty headed but ambitious open borders advocate, and may also be ineligible. Kasich, Carson....you have to be kidding.

Blogger VD February 28, 2016 9:41 AM  

If Limbaugh is a reliable source of information on this issue, then are you going to consider his thinking/opinion on who stopped Rubio/Schumer from getting the amnesty bill passed?

No. Because his ability to testify accurately about events he personally witnessed is not synonymous with his judgment calls about more complicated issues.

Being bitchy and bitter really doesn't suit you, Farmer Tom. Donald Trump is going to win the nomination and he is going to win it going away because even the most rock-ribbed conservatives have learned to hate the treacherous Republican establishment.

You might as well deal with that reality now, because it's not going away.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 9:41 AM  

I stopped watching Fox News in 2006. At one point in time, I considered Rubio to be a bright young talent in the Republican party. But his inclusion in the Gang of Eight soured me on him permanently. I would have more respect for him if he just came out and apologized, admitting it was a huge error in judgment on his part.

I have accepted the Trump will be the nominee, which will lead to another Democrat in the White House, either Trump or Clinton. I sincerely hope all you guys supporting Trump are right, and I sincerely hope I am 100% wrong about him.

For my part, I recently moved away from Minneapolis, and back home to Texas. You can count me among those who will be strongly supporting a Texas secession movement. Whatever small hope I still have for the USA is dwindling even more.

I have become somewhat philosophical about it, and am no longer angry as I was in times past. Texas is uniquely suited amongst the states to stand alone as a nation unto itself. I really am sympathetic to citizens of other states who don't have the same level of autonomy.

I expect some other states will ask to join Texas, but we really don't have that much in common with the deep south. Perhaps Oklahoma will join us, and by extension, maybe Kansas. But I really see Texas going it alone very soon.

Blogger VD February 28, 2016 9:46 AM  

Is a guy who has hired untold hundreds of illegals from Poland/Mexico and God knows where else, really to be trusted when he know he wants cheap labor to work in his business empire?

Seriously, Farmer Tom, what is your problem? Are you really as stupid as you insist on portraying yourself? I, and many other people have REPEATEDLY told you that we do NOT trust Donald Trump. You know perfectly well that we don't trust him.

So why do you keep asking us if we can trust him? Are you simply unable to grasp the concept that we think an untrustworthy Donald Trump is nevertheless a better option than Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich, all three of whom we absolutely believe will behave more or less like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Reagan all did?

Do you not understand that we prefer the unknown to the certain failure?

Blogger VD February 28, 2016 9:48 AM  

I sincerely hope I am 100% wrong about him.

You were wrong about Rubio. We weren't. Why do you trust your judgment about Trump if you got that call so wrong?

Trump is no more a Democrat than the three Bushes. And what part of "bifactional ruling party" do you not understand.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 10:00 AM  

My initial thoughts about Rubio were based on him embracing the Tea Party movement. I never voted for him. I just noticed him. Also, I still think he is politically talented. But Bill Clinton is also extremely talented. Talent alone is not enough. Trump is also talented. The problem with Trump is the same problem I have with Rubio. I don't believe either of them because of what they've already done in the past. I look at Trumps track record.

Rubio initially impressed me with his poise and rhetoric, but his actions belied himself, and he lost all credibility. Same with Trump.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 10:04 AM  

Trump is already a part of the bifactional ruling party. A vote for Trump is a vote for the status quo.

But I am not going to get all upset about it. I am resigned to him being the next President. I have already accepted it as a forgone conclusion. You have no need to fight with me. I have already surrendered on that front. My battle is now for Texas secession.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 10:14 AM  

Honestly VD, I understand where you are coming from. The anger in MSP is palpable because of the invasion of Somalians. The apartments in Eagan where I lived were half filled with Somalians who didn't work. It was like living in a foreign country in some ways. Very uncomfortable.

Also, while Duluth is a beautiful place in the summer, you don't have 4 natural port cities on a Salt water body like we do in Texas. Finally, Texas has dealt with the Mexican issue since its inception in 1836. We are used to it and know how to deal with it adeptly. It is a far cry from having a large Muslim population thrust on you like in St. Cloud.

You don't have the same options we do in Texas. So I understand the desperation, especially from one who has already seen his native people overrun and assimilated once before.

I don't blame you for putting your hope in Trump. I just feel very sorry the you feel you have no other options. I don't feel that way in Texas.

By the way, I have lived in 8 states and a foreign country, so I am not unfamiliar with how different things are in places other than Texas.

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Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 28, 2016 10:20 AM  

@39 You must be some kinda Tejano if you think Texas has little in common with the Americans who colonised Texas.

Besides, we'd frankly rather die like good Southrons than wear those faggot heeled boots and 90lb belt buckles.

Roll Tide!

Blogger Shimshon February 28, 2016 10:20 AM  

"I don't blame you for putting your hope in Trump."

Am I the only one who noticed that Vox has not put his hope in Trump?

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 10:20 AM  

@39
Please joins us:

Texas Nationalist Movement

http://www.thetnm.org/

State Republicans have been fighting hardest against this.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 10:23 AM  

@48

No. And I cannot understand why this has been so confusing to so many longtime Ilk.

And Trump, personally, is my shiv for the Repubs constant betrayals of any principles.

The Conservative Treehouse and their Cold Fury posts are about how I feel.

Blogger Jack Ward February 28, 2016 10:26 AM  

@11 VD Lot on your plate now, but I would like to read Media Whores. Now, publishing that would be a nice touch this summer; along with all the else.

@38 VD Trust the Donald? No. I trust very few these days and certainly not him. Vote for him? Yeah, probably. Its at lease something short of 4th. war. Maybe we can even get Nate to vote this time around using the same argument.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 10:27 AM  

@47

You can be member of the Texas Nationist Movement, League Of The South,and Sons Of Confederate Veterans and all at the same time.

Let the good times roll. Gig'em Aggies. Beat the hell outta Bama

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 10:29 AM  


“Give me an Army of West Point graduates and I'll win a battle... Give me a handful of Texas Aggies and I'll win a war.”

― George S. Patton Jr.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 10:57 AM  

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Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 10:59 AM  

I am not Tejano. 95% Anglo, 3% Choctaw, 2% Cherokee.

Blogger Escoffier February 28, 2016 11:02 AM  

Steve wrote:
so have no Columba Bush in this fight,


Damn you man, here it is my day off and you made me snort Bulletproof coffee out my schnozz!

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 11:08 AM  

Also, my family in America dates back to 1630. My direct ancestors were Thomas Dudley, and his daughter and son-in-law Anne Bradstreet and Simon Bradstreet. They were part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, which is now Boston. I am also related to John Adams and Samuel Adams among the Founders.

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Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 11:21 AM  

I have zero interest in the sons of the Confederacy. Texas should have stayed out of that fight. With roots in Mexico, Texas was anti slavery up until 1836 anyway. The KKK in Texas was obliterated by the Texas Rangers long before the Civil Rights movement. We don't have much in common with deep south slavery advocates. The early Anglo settlers of Texas were not rich southern slave holders who stayed in the eastern states. They were non slave owning immigrants from Tennessee and Mississippi. If they were rich enough to own slaves, they stayed where they were.

Also, unlike the other states in the south, Northern Armies never once ventured into Texas. So we were never "conquered" like the other southern states were, and don't share in the same phychological pathologies that citizens of those conquered states have. The only residual left over in Texas is from Reconstruction, which heavily influenced the Texas Constitution and is why the Governor has very limited powers and the legislature only meets every other year, and only for 135 days. It is also why legislators are only paid $7200 per year and must hold down real jobs to support themselves.

Blogger Escoffier February 28, 2016 11:24 AM  

Is "choose the form of your destroyer" really synonymous with trust?

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Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 11:34 AM  

I have zero interest in the sons of the Confederacy.

Then you ain't Texian, boy.

Texas is and will always be Southern.

Anonymous farmer Tom February 28, 2016 11:36 AM  

Well, you answered my questions.

I thought you were a rational thinker, my mistake.

I'll make two predictions for you.

First, unless Trump wins his 1237 delegates and 8 States outright, he will not win the Republican nomination. The Party will deny it to him at the convention. Even if it means picking Romney as the nominee.

If Trump wins it outright, he will lose the election to Democrat/Biden, just like McCrazy and Willard did.

Donald Trump will never be POTUS.

Blogger Rusty Fife February 28, 2016 11:36 AM  

Conan the Cimmerian wrote:@39

Please joins us:

Texas Nationalist Movement

http://www.thetnm.org/

State Republicans have been fighting hardest against this.


Will I be able to pass the FBI background check?

Anonymous Lawyer Guy February 28, 2016 11:36 AM  

Asking because I don't have the facts.

Does anyone have a pointer to a page as to what is wrong with Malkin? I find myself agreeing with her on most things, and didn't know there was an issue.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 11:44 AM  

First, unless Trump wins his 1237 delegates and 8 States outright, he will not win the Republican nomination. The Party will deny it to him at the convention. Even if it means picking Romney as the nominee.

I predict if they do this, the Republican party is dead.

Which is fine by me.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 11:46 AM  

@65 go to the VD blog search bar and type in her name.

Or Me So Michelle.

(Hint: Michelle's inevitable Japanese invasion of the west coast)

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 11:47 AM  

Texiboo? Would that work?

Blogger dc.sunsets February 28, 2016 11:53 AM  

@ Napoleon, nope.
1. Conservative is not anti-leftist (anti-liberal.)
2. Rightist is still blasphemous in the nearly universal theocracy.

You can't see the forest if you won't look beyond the trees that surround you.

Blogger collisioncat67 February 28, 2016 11:54 AM  

Whether Trump is going to go socialist or renig on his promises after being elected is certainly a possibility. Its been said here before but I think that it bears repeating; look at who Trumps enemies are. They are the libs, the cucks, and both of their respective media outlets.

They are evidently taking Trump at his word and they have gone completely off the rails trying to slander him and sabotage his campaign.

If a Rubio or a Cruz actually were to be elected as Repub nominee (fat chance) and not Trump there would be a collective "Wheeeeew;...dodged a bullet that time!" from all the usual cuckspects and progs.

..."Better not let that happen again!"

Anonymous BGKB February 28, 2016 11:57 AM  

Farmer Tom would you rather your daughter's car break down at night in front of BigGaySteve's House or Bill C's.?

Narco Lubio appears to be gayer than AIDS.

Now that drug resistant AIDS has made it to the US I wonder if people will be responsible or if it will be like the bad old days. http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/aids-acquires-drug-resistance/

Seriously no coverage on gay news sites, this should be bigger news than JJ ((Abrams)) putting gays in Star Wars.

Donald Trump Grand Marshall in the Salute to Israel Parade Maybe he only sides with the good jews and not the (((Hollywood)))ones.

Is a guy who has hired untold hundreds of illegals from Poland/Mexico and God knows where else

If you listened to his response he has done everything the law allows to be legal. His HR ladies upon finding out a SSN doesn't match after a year+ of employment has to bring it up in a meeting with the employee only to have the employee dash away.

Texas has dealt with the Mexican issue since its inception in 1836. We are used to it and know how to deal with it adeptly

Gangbangers coming in to Brooke Army Medical Center to finish off someone they shot earlier says otherwise.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 28, 2016 11:59 AM  

@58

And mine were FFV. 1/2 Brit, 1/4 German, 1\4 Indian (mostly Cherokee, but some Catawba, Nachee, Creek, Osage etc.). Most recent immigrant ancestor arrived during the French and Indian War.

I don't recall a lot of Boston Yankees fighting for the R. Of Texas. So my bet is you're hardly more Texican than Hoyt is American. But hey, if y'all don't want allies, we can just send our Mexicans your way in good conscience.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 28, 2016 12:00 PM  

Trump is going to win the nomination and, I hope, the election. That said, the underlying errors of the past 500 years (to which neo-reaction exists) are not about to reverse in a 4 or 8 year election cycle.

A Trump administration will only signal that the Progressivist theocracy finally has opposition, and may help indicate thatthe West will turn to the Right before a full Zombie Apocalypse (where the Left turns into the French Terror or Pol Pot's Killing Fields.)

Blogger Rusty Fife February 28, 2016 12:12 PM  

Scott6584 wrote:Trump is already a part of the bifactional ruling party. A vote for Trump is a vote for the status quo.

Somebody was reporting that Trump turned down Cruz's offer to get out of the race for a SC nom.

It had me scratching my head; unless you include the other facts of Trumps campaign. He has been studiously avoiding every single favor-trading, influence-peddelling action known to the establishment. He has been actively rejecting every bit of it.

Either he is doing it for show or it is his center. I'll leave it for the reader to prognosticate for himself.

Anonymous Henry Brown February 28, 2016 12:30 PM  

#5 & #31 spot on. Encouraging to see some are paying attention.

OpenID sigbouncer February 28, 2016 12:46 PM  

Prediction.

Trump will end up winning the Presidency... But as an Independent.

OpenID sigbouncer February 28, 2016 12:48 PM  

"Somebody was reporting that Trump turned down Cruz's offer to get out of the race for a SC nom."

It was me who posted this here yesterday (link below).

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/02/moderate-loyalty.html#comment-form

Here is a link to what is going on in much greater detail from Roger Stone.

Ted Cruz called Trump and offered to drop out of the race if Trump would guarantee him the Supreme Court Nomination. Trump told him no.

There is also a link below where you can help stop the stealing of the election from Trump via Roger Stone's group.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-insider-leaks-koch-bros-rubio-plan-to-stop-trump/

http://donate.tctrag.org/

Anonymous redsash February 28, 2016 12:53 PM  

Wayne Madsen and InfoWars have shown what the first amendment's really about and what journalism should be about, the pursuit of truth wherever it leads. I feel sorrow for Rubio, his family, and children. Why, when you are trying to hide your past, forget your past, create a new birth and life, does one pursue a course of action that is bound to expose all? That is Rubio at the foam party, Rubio as a Chippendale/Village People wannabe. He is delicate and probably not up to what he and his family will have to endure. I fear he will take his own life. Trump has this info and it is to his credit he has not brought it up. Blue dresses and John Edwards bastards eventually make their existence known.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 1:04 PM  

My famity built the first two story building in Dallas County. We have been in Texas a long time. I have family all over the state.

There are few Texans that have longer roots in Texas than myself.

But you go ahead with that Confederacy cap if it makes you happy. I would suspect you're from out near Tyler or Longview based on your outlook. Most of the state doesn't think that way.

Blogger Scott6584 February 28, 2016 1:06 PM  

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OpenID sigbouncer February 28, 2016 1:17 PM  

"That is Rubio at the foam party, Rubio as a Chippendale/Village People wannabe. He is delicate and probably not up to what he and his family will have to endure. I fear he will take his own life. Trump has this info and it is to his credit he has not brought it up."

I was thinking the same thing at the last debate when Rubio brought up the Polish workers settlement from 30 years ago.

Trump could've ended this guy with one response: "Well 30 years ago you were attending foam parties, dancing with The Village People and getting caught in a well known homosexual park with your male buddy, a future gay porn magnate".

You can't say the man doesn't have a heart.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 28, 2016 1:20 PM  

@79

Do you have a learning disability? All the clues that I am no Texican are right there in my comments, but let me repeat: no faggy boots, no dead dick tombstones, and Roll Tide!

We'll see how Texas feels about her Southron brethren someday. I suspect you don't have your nation's pulse as you seem to think. But good luck to y'all regardless.

Blogger Tom K. February 28, 2016 1:32 PM  

Shades of Scott Adams' book, "How to fail at everything..."

Have a process, bot a goal.

Blogger Tom K. February 28, 2016 1:34 PM  

Shades of Scott Adams' book, "How to fail at everything..."

Have a process, bot a goal.

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 28, 2016 1:34 PM  

Despite that he's a bit slow, and far from being a deep thinker, I'm still a fan of Rush Limbaugh. He's as honest as extraverts get.

Blogger tz February 28, 2016 1:45 PM  

Trump sells out stadiums
Rubio and Fox sells out America

Blogger Were-Puppy February 28, 2016 2:31 PM  

@4 beerme
Narco Lubio appears to be gayer than AIDS.
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Best nickname for Rinubio -

Blogger RobertT February 28, 2016 2:53 PM  

Not so stunning. Plus O'Reilly, Hannity & Limbaugh kept it to themselves. If it wasn't for Trump bringing up the subject, this could have gone all the way through the election unreported. Can they ever be trusted again? Hannity and O'Reilly I never had any use for, but I always thought I was the Limbaugh fan and you were otherwise.

Blogger Salt February 28, 2016 2:55 PM  

The Koch Bros. met with GOP millionaires and billionaires Thursday night to pool together over $75 million to stop Trump and are going to use Mitt Romney as ‘Plan B’ if Rubio fails to gain traction on Super Tuesday, according to moles who were inside the meeting.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-insider-leaks-koch-bros-rubio-plan-to-stop-trump/

That'll work, I sure. /s

Blogger Doc Rampage February 28, 2016 3:24 PM  

collisioncat67 wrote:They are evidently taking Trump at his word and they have gone completely off the rails trying to slander him and sabotage his campaign.


The Leftist press has made their usual attempts to shame him into following The Script; other than that, they haven't been hard on him at all. If they were, they would be calling him a racist and a white supremacist every time his name comes up like they do to Vox and anyone who advocates for deporting all the illegals. If they were really hard on him they would do the kind of crap they did to George Bush in his first term, taking every slip of the tongue and turning it into a story to make him look stupid. Donald Trump says lots of things that they could do this with. Except for the usual SJW bullying which they would do to anyone, they are pretty much in Trump's corner.

It's the conservatives who are attacking Trump, and they have good reason to do so--the man is running as a conservative, taking votes away from real conservatives, and he is by no stretch of the imagination a conservative. Of *course* they are going to do everything they can to get conservatives to see that. This is perfectly normal political activity and you all need to get a grip. If you have so much hatred and spite for everyone who disagrees with you, you are doing to die young of complications related to stress.

And of course, there are those of us who don't think much of Trump as a man. Anyone who can go so easily from "he's a great person" to "he's a terrible person" just because that person criticized him is a whiny little bitch. Most men, unlike most women, are capable of distinguishing the political and ideological from the personal, and don't take criticism so personally.

Blogger Sheila4g February 28, 2016 3:26 PM  

Fascinating viewing Texas through the totally different lenses of @80 Scott 6584 and @82 Hezekiah Garrett. I've been here a mere 20 years and wouldn't presume to make any sort of projection, but would ask to share an observation. My admittedly limited impression (both re time and geographic location) is that today's Texas is a microcosm of America - tons of immigrants from China, India, Mexico, and various Arabs, plus equally numerous refugees from blue states - loads from NY, NJ, CA, and Illinois. I thus can't help but fear the same fracture here, and given the constantly decreasing portion of the White native Texan population, am uncertain as to the outcome.

My husband, although born in Germany, spent the majority of his life here and is dead certain Texans will have no problem separating the wheat from the chaff. Although he admits it may be bloody, he considers the outcome a foregone conclusion.

Both your thoughts?

Blogger Were-Puppy February 28, 2016 3:36 PM  

@52 Conan the Cimmerian
Let the good times roll. Gig'em Aggies. Beat the hell outta Bama
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U So Funny!

ROLL TIDE

Blogger Were-Puppy February 28, 2016 3:52 PM  

68. Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 11:47 AM
Texiboo? Would that work?
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You just reminded me of an old funny - Boo Got Shot

Blogger Were-Puppy February 28, 2016 3:57 PM  

@77 sigbouncer
There is also a link below where you can help stop the stealing of the election from Trump via Roger Stone's group.
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I thought Trump didn't need anyones money?

Blogger Were-Puppy February 28, 2016 4:01 PM  

@90 Doc Rampage

If they were, they would be calling him a racist and a white supremacist every time his name comes up
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I've heard them on CNN in the other room all day crybabys about how Trump is endorsed by KKK and David Duke. They are going on and on about it. They took a commie break to let Bernie say something, and are now taking a fascist break to let Hitlery speak. I'm sure they'll be right back to the KKK after that.

Anonymous BGKB February 28, 2016 4:07 PM  

I've heard them on CNN in the other room all day crybabys about how Trump is endorsed by KKK and David Duke

Yet nothing about HilLIARy taking 40million from nations that execute gays? Brandon Eich was a pariah for just $2 against gay marriage.

Blogger haus frau February 28, 2016 4:30 PM  

Trump could have shut rubio up by bringing up his queer escapades but in that venue it would have made trump look catty and unnecessarily anti-gay to the non-religious. Better to leek such information out via third party and then comment on it as if he just found out about Rubio from reports everyone is now reading.

OpenID sigbouncer February 28, 2016 5:01 PM  

@77 sigbouncer
>There is also a link below where you can help stop the stealing of the election from Trump via Roger Stone's group.
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"I thought Trump didn't need anyones money?"

This isn't money for Trump. Notice I wrote 'via Roger Stone's group'. If you listen Stone at the infowars link provided. You will hear him say the money is to house and pay for old school Republicans in Cleveland for the Republican Convention. Many of whom worked for Reagan with Stone. Pat Buchanan's name was thrown out as one example.

Evidently Stone's theory is if he gathers enough of the old school Republicans, with all the respect that they garner. The Bush elite won't be able to flip Trump at the (assumed) brokered convention. Because the old school will stand up to the Bushes at the Convention. And already know all the dirty secrets and tricks.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 5:08 PM  

@82

He ain't no Texan, he is a faggot. My apologies to BG Steve.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian February 28, 2016 5:12 PM  

@82

"Me and muh Massassholes ancestors saved Texas from the Mexicans!"

I am flying the Third Flag right now in honor of Scott (who ain't no Scot) and his asshole ancestors.

"Texas has no association with the South" my ass.

Blogger Rusty Fife February 28, 2016 5:51 PM  

sigbouncer wrote:It was me who posted this here yesterday (link below).

Thank you. I didn't feel like looking to see where I saw it first.

Anonymous Sheik Yerbouty February 28, 2016 7:26 PM  

Michelle Malkin is a hot MILF. End of story.

Blogger Halifax Donair February 28, 2016 8:44 PM  

I like Fox and its pretty blondes better than the ABCNNBCBS cabal to which it is the alternative, but I've never trusted it

Fox Business is good. Varney and Cavuto keep me company on the car. I don't watch TV anymore.

Blogger Halifax Donair February 28, 2016 9:17 PM  

@90 Anyone who can go so easily from "he's a great person" to "he's a terrible person" just because that person criticized him is a whiny little bitch.

Do yourself a favor and stay out of NYC. You won't like their growl, bark, and move on style.

Donald Trump I'd the New York City big shot everyone loves to hate. But I'd let him mind my dog over everyone else, maybe Bernie.

This is based on personability, mind you. But we'very seen through fruits of Trumps negotiations, Bernie not so much.

Blogger Halifax Donair February 28, 2016 9:18 PM  

@95 CNN sounds like Moonman today.

K-K-K
K-K-K
K-K-K

Anonymous LastRedoubt February 28, 2016 9:35 PM  

Speaking of Scott Adams - he recently decided he doesn't like Trumps refusal to clarify a disavowal of the KKK/etc.

Blogger BunE22 February 29, 2016 12:43 AM  

Why would you have to clarify a disavowal? I saw Trump get asked about David Duke supporting him and he said he disavowed his support. What more is there to say?

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