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Saturday, February 20, 2016

South Carolina results

This is the open thread to discuss the results in South Carolina and Nevada. On the Democratic side, I understand Fox has called Nevada for Hillary Clinton, but it's close.

UPDATE: Fox News is running a non-stop commercial for Ted Cruz in the last 30 minutes of the SC polls being open. Doubt it will do them any good at this point. But it's good to know who the cuckservatives are pulling for now.

UPDATE 2: "Preliminary exit poll results indicate that three-quarters of the state’s primary voters support temporarily banning Muslims who are not U.S. citizens from entering the United States. That’s even more than the support for this proposal among GOP voters in New Hampshire, 65 percent – a core support group for Trump in that state."

UPDATE 3: Decision Desk has Trump winning at 32.8 percent with 44.4 percent reporting. Fox News has called South Carolina for Trump. Now the only question is how big he will win it.

So much for Trump being finished in Iowa....

I enjoyed this exchange with GOP media guy Rick Wilson:
Rick Wilson ‏@TheRickWilson
Anything less than 50% is a huge loss for @realDonaldTrump  #SCPrimary

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
You'd say anything short of collective mass suicide by the other candidates was a huge loss for Trump.

Rick Wilson ‏@TheRickWilson
LOL grow a sense of humor, Vox.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
So you didn't think the idea that the SC mall shooter was a deranged Jeb Bush triggered by Trump's victory was funny?

Rick Wilson
‏I have no idea what you're on about.
For some reason, my sense of humor frequently goes unrecognized.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
Active shooter reported at South Carolina mall. Wow, @realDonaldTrump's success is really getting to @JebBush!

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Anonymous Rolf February 20, 2016 6:33 PM  

Let us pray they continue neck-and-neck to the bitter end, and let it only be Hillary's super-delegates that tip the balance, leaving a bitter taste in the mouth of Dems everywhere. Every state with tight race 'tween Hillary and Bernie it's good for the other side - it forces the Ds to play hard-ball and spend buckets of money viciously fighting their own side.

Anonymous Takin' a Look February 20, 2016 6:47 PM  

@Rolf

I second that. When Sander's supporters feel the bern from Rodan, suddenly Trump won't seem like the bastard love-child of Hitler and Satan. All those SWPL with college debt will get pissed when they see the minorities and the DNC ensure Rodan gets the nomination.

Anonymous SouthRon February 20, 2016 6:54 PM  

The NYT must be expecting a Trump victory. They are trying to cast South Carolinians as a bunch of racist mother fuckers. I'm sure they'd love to hang that label on Trump's supporters.

We don't care.

Anonymous Man of the Atom February 20, 2016 7:05 PM  

SouthRon wrote:The NYT must be expecting a Trump victory. They are trying to cast South Carolinians as a bunch of racist mother fuckers. I'm sure they'd love to hang that label on Trump's supporters.

We don't care.


Third Law. NYT editorial writer is afraid (lips quivering and hands shaking at his word processor), and Second Law demonstrations are pending.

Blogger Doseux February 20, 2016 7:16 PM  

No canservative should flinch at an accusation of racism. Every race votes in its own interests--except Whites. Democrats depend on it. Vote in your own interest, goyim.

Anonymous The OASF February 20, 2016 7:18 PM  

How does Fox News get away with acting like a Super PAC for Rubio? They have public broadcast licenses that come with FCC regulation against outright campaigning in elections...?

Blogger The Other Robot February 20, 2016 7:20 PM  

Decision Desk showing Trump at 32% but it is very early at the moment.

Blogger SamuraiJack February 20, 2016 7:22 PM  

It used to annoy me when liberals would call Fox "Faux News". It doesn't anymore. They have shown their true colors as controlled opposition. They don't give a damn about nationalism. Screw those cucks

Blogger Lana J February 20, 2016 7:24 PM  

Interesting. The exit polls are showing Trump 31%, Cruz 26% and Rubio 23%. So either Trump isn't doing as well as polling would suggest, people are reluctant to admit they are voting for Trump or Trump's W remarks combined with Scalia's death in the last week have changed minds in South Carolina.

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy February 20, 2016 7:30 PM  

Breaking news: Foam parties are actually popular in the Palmetto State.

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 20, 2016 7:30 PM  

Fox News is running a non-stop commercial for Ted Cruz in the last 30 minutes of the SC polls being open. Doubt it will do them any good at this point. But it's good to know who the cuckservatives are pulling for now.

Amazing that they're willing to burn down everything they've built.

An observation that's nagged at me for the last few weeks is that evil is egregiously expensive. They burn through money and businesses like gasoline. I mean, think of Twitter and Facebook alone, being thrown on the pyre as a relatively small stopgap measure.

It raises a couple of follow-up questions, which reminds me of something else out of all reckoning: why are people willing to go through Hell, literally, just to avoid the embrace of a loving God? Truly uncanny.

Anonymous 11B February 20, 2016 7:30 PM  

I don't get how Rubio can garner so much support from GOP primary voters. If those people can't see the singular importance of immigration, we are hosed.

Blogger The Other Robot February 20, 2016 7:30 PM  

And Rubio takes second place.

However, only 0.1% of precincts reporting.

Trump at 30.5% ...

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 20, 2016 7:31 PM  

Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy wrote:Breaking news: Foam parties are actually popular in the Palmetto State.

And now I know what a foam party is, so...thanks for that...I guess.

Blogger Chris Mallory February 20, 2016 7:32 PM  

@6 Fox News is a cable channel, they do not have public broadcast licenses or any dealings with the FCC. There are local Fox Networks that do have the licenses. Our local affiliate doesn't carry any Fox News programming.

Blogger The Other Robot February 20, 2016 7:32 PM  

And how they change.

Trump now trouncing them with 38.2%

Still, very early days.

Anonymous 11B February 20, 2016 7:33 PM  

It used to annoy me when liberals would call Fox "Faux News". It doesn't anymore.

Ann Coulter is now calling the Coyote News.

Anonymous Faceless February 20, 2016 7:33 PM  

I am wondering the significance of the green check on Politico - did they just call it for Trump?

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/south-carolina

Blogger Lana J February 20, 2016 7:34 PM  

Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy wrote:Breaking news: Foam parties are actually popular in the Palmetto State.

Well, look at their Senator, Lispy McGrahamnesty.

Anonymous average bob February 20, 2016 7:34 PM  

Do you mean "race realists"

Anonymous Faceless February 20, 2016 7:35 PM  

@17

I am just tired of having to pretend people are on my side when they aren't. Jake Tapper or Anderson Vanderbilt and the liberal panel at least have open and clear disagreement - they don't pretend to be "my guys" while showing nothing but contempt for everything except naked power.

Blogger Lana J February 20, 2016 7:36 PM  

Twitter says active shooter at mall in Columbia, SC. This evening may be nonstop drama.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 20, 2016 7:38 PM  

CNN has been surprisingly unbiased so far.

Anonymous The OASF February 20, 2016 7:40 PM  

Its called the GOP colluding with the CIA so that the establishment can keep their splinter strategy alive and go for a brokered convention.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2016 7:41 PM  

Lana J wrote:Interesting. The exit polls are showing Trump 31%, Cruz 26% and Rubio 23%. So either Trump isn't doing as well as polling would suggest, people are reluctant to admit they are voting for Trump or Trump's W remarks combined with Scalia's death in the last week have changed minds in South Carolina.

The first one. You'll note that's almost exactly what FiveThirtyEight predicted with their "polls-plus" forecast, which uses a weighted average based on various factors. And a large survey at the end of last year showed that when broken down by likelihood of voting, Trump has his highest support among those least likely to vote, and vice-versa (40% of those with a turnout score of 0-20, but only 29% of those with a turnout score of 80-100).

Blogger The Other Robot February 20, 2016 7:41 PM  

Decision Desk seems to have called it for Trump with 0.8% in.

He is back on 30%

Anonymous Curlytop February 20, 2016 7:42 PM  

The pundits have NO idea how pissed off the SC Republican electorate in are...especially in the Upstate. There's only so many times a group can be beaten over the head with the Bible come election time, only to have the "mea Culpas" and hand-wringing by the very people who promised Sodom on the Potomac wouldn't change them, before even your most ardent Evangelical decides to vote for the guy the Establishment hates the most simply because...

FU2016!

Endorsements by Haley, Gowdy, & all mean little. A good many feel that they should exit Stage Left along with the candidates after tonight. Gowdy is rarely seen in Sptbg because of the Syrian Refugee issue. Haley was forced on them bc of Mark "if you were my Mistress, my love Argentina!" and Lapdog is a non-issue. SC is stuck with him bc Graham has the Republican strong arm on his side. Trump was right about SC not liking him. Hell, we tried twice to get rid of his sorry butt.

I have family members who aren't exactly active in politics who were out talking to neighbors about Trump precisely because of immigration and the refugee issue. Not sure the percentage of true believers vs "burn it down" supporters of Trump are, but regardless, the overreaching message I received was that they refused to fall in line with what the Establishment was telling them.

*As an aside, Cruz invoking Obama's Messiah complex in his campaigning wasn't exactly a good strategy. That turned off a LOT of conservative Christian voters as well as moderates.



Anonymous 11B February 20, 2016 7:42 PM  

Does anyone think the GOP will win in November? I ask because this is what I've noticed. Trump supporters will not support Rubio if he wins the nomination. They might have supported Cruz, and Cruz's supporters might have supported Trump. But I think Trump/Cruz have now become so antagonistic towards each other that it might jeopardize their supporters coming together to back the eventual winner.

On the democrat side, I can see either Hillary's or Bernie's supporters switching to the eventual nominee in a unified effort.

I think the GOP is going to be too strained to come together. I know I could not support Rubio or Bush.

Blogger Pseudotsuga February 20, 2016 7:44 PM  

Why the blankety-blank is Jeb Bush even IN the polls or the numbers? The party of stoopid rides again, right over the front lines of its troops hunkered down in their trenches.

Anonymous The OASF February 20, 2016 7:48 PM  

You are absolutely wrong. Google the Reagan Democrats. They are back.

Anonymous The OASF February 20, 2016 7:50 PM  

Fox News has already projected Trump as the winner.

Blogger 1337kestrel February 20, 2016 7:52 PM  

it forces the Ds to play hard-ball and spend buckets of money viciously fighting their own side

Thank goodness the GOP is united in its core values and is civilly debating the merits of various candidates in good faith.

Seriously, Fox News supporting Cruz is perfectly logical. Even though Fox is almost but not quite the mouthpiece of the GOPe, they should theoretically be supporting Cruz over Rubio anyway; the fact that Trump has been bashing Fox and could potentially cost them conservative mindshare means they have to support the #2 candidate, or risk becoming the enemy of the *new* GOPe.

Or they could reconcile with Trump, which could also hurt them if he loses and fades into irrelevance.

Cruz is the closest thing to a safe option for them... not sure why they would so actively support him though.

Anonymous Faceless February 20, 2016 7:52 PM  

11B wrote:Does anyone think the GOP will win in November? I ask because this is what I've noticed. Trump supporters will not support Rubio if he wins the nomination. They might have supported Cruz, and Cruz's supporters might have supported Trump. But I think Trump/Cruz have now become so antagonistic towards each other that it might jeopardize their supporters coming together to back the eventual winner.

On the democrat side, I can see either Hillary's or Bernie's supporters switching to the eventual nominee in a unified effort.

I think the GOP is going to be too strained to come together. I know I could not support Rubio or Bush.


Based on the boos and the anger, I expect the Bernie voters will return to being apathetic and not turn up on election day. Trump has the best odds of picking up disaffected Bernie voters by not being a conventional Republican. I knew a socialist gal who believed she had to be a commie because her grandmother was a commie quaker, and she registered to vote for McCain in 2000 - she'd vote for Bernie if she votes now, but sure hates the Clintons and the "establishment" they represent.

Blogger Rusty Fife February 20, 2016 7:54 PM  

11B wrote:They might have supported Cruz, and Cruz's supporters might have supported Trump. But I think Trump/Cruz have now become so antagonistic towards each other that it might jeopardize their supporters coming together to back the eventual winner

Maybe I just don't take the attacks too personally; but politics isn't bean bag. I'd rather have a hard fought primary ending with kum-by-ya.

Trump and Cruz are going at it hammer and tongs; but all mostly above the belt. I can respect that.

We'll see if the establishment throws another hiss fit and tries to take their ball home soon methinks.

Anonymous Curlytop February 20, 2016 7:56 PM  

@ 30. The OASF
"Google the Reagan Democrats. They are back."

Definitely! They've been virtually ignored for over 2 decades by both parties. Mostly, they sit out elections. Not this time.

I recall Vox saying 10 years ago that we were going to see a shift in dynamics where you'd see strange bedfellows in the following of a candidate. I tend to think that those who say Trump is the "message" not the "messenger" are correct.



Blogger lowercaseb February 20, 2016 7:56 PM  

I guess the question to start asking now is what tactics are the cucks going to try to use to cheat Trump out of the nomination come convention time.

With the Dems, we already know that Bernie will get burned by the superdelegates in Philadelphia.

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Anonymous Quartermaster February 20, 2016 7:58 PM  

Grassfire has already called SC for Trump. By their totals he has 33% to Cruz 22% and Rubio 22%. The highest of the next tier is Heb! with 10%. The bottom 3 might as well pack it in. It's a 3 man race, at best.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2016 7:59 PM  

It looks like Trump will leap ahead in delegate count, and even grab his first state delegate majority (of eight needed):

Under RNC rules, South Carolina is the only state voting before March 15th permitted to allocate its 50 convention delegates on any kind of winner-take-all basis. The statewide winner tonight will claim 29 delegates, while the top vote-getter in each of seven congressional districts will claim three delegates.

Unfortunately, no one seems to be reporting results by congressional district, and the counties don't map cleanly, so you'll have to figure it out yourself.

Blogger Christopher February 20, 2016 7:59 PM  

I wonder how many people have switched over from Fox to MSNBC.

Btw, Chris Matthews was just opining that there's more to Trump, and he thinks it's summed up in one word, nationalism. He cited Trump's line "we either have a country or we don't" as possibly being the line of the election.

Blogger Jeff D February 20, 2016 8:00 PM  

Dudes. "Republican candidate Donald Trump" is a character played by Donald Trump, as much as "Stephen Colbert" is (was?) a character played by Stephen Colbert.

There isn't a law against winning an election under completely false pretenses, after all. (I mean even more false than the average politician.)

Blogger The Other Robot February 20, 2016 8:00 PM  

Hmmmm, it's been called for Trump with 34.4%!

Blogger Lana J February 20, 2016 8:01 PM  

Apparently the new fresh take is....everyone who is not my candidate must drop out NOW so that my candidate can beat Trump. Don't see that happening but it is pretty funny.

Blogger Rusty Fife February 20, 2016 8:02 PM  

Jeff D wrote:Dudes. "Republican candidate Donald Trump" is a character played by Donald Trump, as much as "Stephen Colbert" is (was?) a character played by Stephen Colbert.

There isn't a law against winning an election under completely false pretenses, after all. (I mean even more false than the average politician.)


Oh font of wisdom. What a breath of fresh air you've let into our little echo chamber!

Blogger BunE22 February 20, 2016 8:03 PM  

Voters that are angry with the government:
Trump 42% Cruz 25% Rubio 17% Carson 8%

Can bring needed change:
Trump 43% Cruz 20% Rubio 16% Bush 8%

Born Again or Evangelical Christians
Trump 31% Cruz 27% Rubio 22% Carson 8%

Anonymous BGKB February 20, 2016 8:06 PM  

Let us pray they continue neck-and-neck to the bitter end, and let it only be Hillary's super-delegates that tip the balance, leaving a bitter taste in the mouth of Dems everywhere.

Even better is Bernie hammering that skank only to have super delegates give her the win. Chose between there is no voter fraud, or Hildawg cheated.

: Foam parties are actually popular in the Palmetto State.

Isnt it too cold for foam parties in SC now?

CNN has been surprisingly unbiased so far. Who knew that fox would end up whoring for a Hispanic more than Milo.

Why the blankety-blank is Jeb Bush even IN the polls or the numbers?

So his daddy can give him the win in a brokered convection. I cant tell if Jeb's wife is uglier than Barry's.

Blogger BunE22 February 20, 2016 8:06 PM  

I missed the thing on Fox but it said 44% of Trump voters want to deport illegals and 37% want to ban Muslims. There was one other thing for Trump but didn't catch the category. Did anyone else?

Anonymous Cheddarman February 20, 2016 8:10 PM  

11b as long as trump does not insult Cruz supporters I sEE no reason why he can't pick them up if Cruz drops out

Blogger BunE22 February 20, 2016 8:13 PM  

@41 The best thing I've read so far about Trump is this:

What Trump is showing is that there is no “true conservatism.” It’s a scam, and at some point, the deliberate refusal to understand constitutes a moral failing. The attacks on Trump, up to this point, were not generated so much by ideology as by Trump’s refusal to speak the vocabulary and respect the authorities of the conservative subculture. Trump was a movement unto himself, outside the control of the Beltway Right. As the Beltway Right is itself one giant misdirection effort, it had to target Trump to make sure the scam rolls on.

From here: http://www.radixjournal.com/journal/2016/2/18/a-time-for-choosing

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2016 8:15 PM  

So far, the only remotely competitive congressional district is district 4, where Trump leads Spartanburg County by about 200 votes, but Rubio leads Greenville County by about 300 votes. But again, the counties don't exactly match the district, so it's impossible to tell if Rubio even has a lead there at all.

Anonymous Curlytop February 20, 2016 8:20 PM  

@ 50. SciVo
District 4 is Trey Gowdy's District and that is Sptbg. Can't recall off-hand but don't think it includes Greenville.

Anonymous Cheddarman February 20, 2016 8:23 PM  

I have been seeing accusations of rubio being gay pop up on the alt news Web sites. It is hard for me to believe he has gotten this far without being outed if the allegations are true. Anyone know something I dont?

Anonymous VinnyBoomBatz February 20, 2016 8:27 PM  

First time commenter... I'm as happy as anyone here that Trump won SC and I'll be doing my part but Vox, curious for your and the Ilk's opinions on an exit poll tonight. 52% want legal status for illegals, 44 for deportation. These are southern Republicans. Doesn't that mean that amnesty, and 20 million plus new democrat voters, are just a matter of time? We know the Dems are all for it.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2016 8:29 PM  

Curlytop @51:

district boundaries since 2013

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy February 20, 2016 8:36 PM  

Cheddarman wrote:I have been seeing accusations of rubio being gay pop up on the alt news Web sites. It is hard for me to believe he has gotten this far without being outed if the allegations are true. Anyone know something I dont?

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/MarcoRubio1989showEditB1200w.jpg

https://assets.rbl.ms/3839706/980x.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lEqW70F.gif

Blogger Jamie-R February 20, 2016 8:37 PM  

Have to say, the true believers of the conservative cause who went Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, the 30 years of conservatives losing the culture and the presidency means it can't afford to be trusted anymore. Nationalism it is now. America had a child in its time of excesses and it is Trump. The trailer park meth lab playing Woodstock hits had one too and it's Clinton.

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy February 20, 2016 8:38 PM  

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/marco-rubios-childhood-friend-tied-to-miamis-most-infamous-gay-porn-case-8203133

Blogger BunE22 February 20, 2016 8:39 PM  

Bush suspending campaign!

Anonymous 5343 February 20, 2016 8:41 PM  

@58.

Hallelujah!!

Anonymous Curlytop February 20, 2016 8:44 PM  

54. SciVo

Thanks! I thought that District ran part of Greenville. GSP is very key for Republican Grassroots. They carry the bulk of Upstate. The name of the game in ANY Republican Primary is to split that vote if you are the Establishment. Gowdy & Haley are mud right now in that area and it shows.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2016 8:46 PM  

VinnyBoomBatz wrote:First time commenter... I'm as happy as anyone here that Trump won SC and I'll be doing my part but Vox, curious for your and the Ilk's opinions on an exit poll tonight. 52% want legal status for illegals, 44 for deportation. These are southern Republicans. Doesn't that mean that amnesty, and 20 million plus new democrat voters, are just a matter of time? We know the Dems are all for it.

Only 5.3% of SC is Hispanic or Latino, so mostly likely even fewer are illegal. (Not all Hispanics are illegal, but most illegals are Hispanic.) That's well below the 8% level where diversity leads to widespread conflict.

(I recall reading somewhere that in 2008, Obama won districts that were either less than 8% black, or so heavily black as to make up the difference in white votes lost.)

OTOH, my own state of Oregon is not only 11.7% Hispanic or Latino, but also 8.7% foreign-born -- and that was as of 2004. I guarantee that you would see very different results here.

Or in other words, just because a state is conservative -- or even Confederate -- doesn't necessarily mean that it has enough experience with illegals to have a well-formed opinion.

Blogger Zimri February 20, 2016 8:53 PM  

Jeb is *not* in the numbers anymore, because he's suspended his campaign. Rather, the voters did this for him.

Blogger Rusty Fife February 20, 2016 8:53 PM  

@61

I wish they'd poll on how many people wanted to deport Failifornians and Yankees.

Anonymous Wyrd February 20, 2016 8:55 PM  

Lubio currently at 22.2%? Well, what do we expect from a state that elected Lispey Graham?

Anonymous Curlytop February 20, 2016 8:59 PM  

@ 64. Wyrd
oh, the stories, I could tell you...

and the name is Lapdog. ;-)

Blogger YIH February 20, 2016 9:01 PM  

@BGKB:
I cant tell if Jeb's wife is uglier than Barry's.
Granted, Please Clap got trolled, buuuuttttt...

Blogger Doseux February 20, 2016 9:01 PM  

Dudes. "Republican candidate Donald Trump" is a character played by Donald Trump, as much as "Stephen Colbert" is (was?) a character played by Stephen Colbert.

As far as that is true, it is true of all politicians. Except Trump isn't a politician.

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 February 20, 2016 9:03 PM  

Jeb out. If Kasich follows that's bad for Trump. I hope Kasich stays in to siphon more establishment votes on Super Tuesday.

Pundits are breathing a sigh of relief but this is going to hurt their golden boy Cruz more than Trump.

Will Best

Blogger praetorian February 20, 2016 9:04 PM  

OMG. Trump might not keep all his campaign promises? I need to sit down.

Ilk, why didn't you guys tell me that sometimes politicians don't keep promises? The new Conservative But Really Concerned Guy says that sometimes politicians don't keep promises...

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr February 20, 2016 9:08 PM  

Trump reminds me of John Kennedy. Who by modern standards would be considered center-right.

Bush's pulling out is very good news for Rubio...probably not so much for Cruz and Trump. I think almost all Bush's supporters go to Rubio.

Blogger YIH February 20, 2016 9:09 PM  

Na, na, na, na - na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye!
Here 'ya go, Jebbie!

Blogger David The Good February 20, 2016 9:12 PM  

Vox and I separately made the exact same joke on Jeb.

NOW WHOSE HUMOR IS "BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS?"

Anonymous Wyrd February 20, 2016 9:12 PM  

Alas, poor ¿Jeb?

Anonymous paradox February 20, 2016 9:14 PM  

Glenn Beck, on his FB page, is asking all his cuck-bots for a national day of prayer and fasting, Monday. For our nation, and a Ted Cruz win.

LOL, Beck is going to be on suicide watch soon.

Blogger tz February 20, 2016 9:23 PM  

I still have a few months of subscription to The Blaze.
Ala Flint, MI, someone should check TheBlaze drinking fountains for funny mushroom contamination.

Soon to be Jim Jones kool-aid.

Blogger BunE22 February 20, 2016 9:28 PM  

paradox wrote:Glenn Beck, on his FB page, is asking all his cuck-bots for a national day of prayer and fasting, Monday. For our nation, and a Ted Cruz win.

LOL, Beck is going to be on suicide watch soon.


Prayer and fasting? That sounds like something a Muslim would do. I just might go get steak for dinner Monday, with a baked potato, and a nice chianti.

Blogger Jamie-R February 20, 2016 9:34 PM  

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Blogger Jamie-R February 20, 2016 9:37 PM  

Repeat posting on blogger doesn't make America great again. Make Mexico pay to fix it.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 20, 2016 9:37 PM  

George Herman Walker Bush was caught trading sex trade boys with Barney frank and was never "outed."

Rubio is not gay for as long as they need him to be.

They don't call it the Gay Old Party for nothing.

Blogger YIH February 20, 2016 9:42 PM  

Looks like a phaggot, dances like a phaggot, has manboobs.
Like I said, he's the GOPe's Richard Simmons.

OpenID lordofthehundreds February 20, 2016 9:42 PM  

@28. 11B (I was one of those once, long ago in the VA Natl Guard),

Don't assume the antagonism you see between Trump and Cruz is entirely true. Both know they need each other, but they have to go through some rocky times together first. Think of all of this as a job interview, and it will make sense.

Also, Bernie's supporters are true-believers. Not one I talk to now want to support the Wicked Witch of Westchester--ever. And if the Clintonites pull the super-delegates card at the Philly convention, you'll see a LOT of furious Bernie-bros either sit out, or do the ultimate "FU, Secretary Clinton" and pull the lever for The Donald.

Anonymous Wyrd February 20, 2016 9:49 PM  

Currently 22.4% of SC Republicans approve of gay foam parties.

OpenID mattse001 February 20, 2016 9:53 PM  

Far more significant than Trump's 33% victory tonight was Jeb's suspending of his campaign. Rest assured that the establishment will take the thumb screws to Kasich, and he will leave soon too.

Who here thinks Jeb's and Kasich's supporters will rally behind Trump?

2/3rds or more will go to Rubio, and that will be enough to put him ahead of Trump. 1/3 will go to Cruz.

Rubio will then slowly bleed Trump out, as many of the races are winner-take-all, and Rubio's 40% will be more than adequate. Trump has a ceiling of 40%, and will never break it.

Blogger Dexter February 20, 2016 9:58 PM  

Pussyboy mattse forgets the power of social proof.

Blogger praetorian February 20, 2016 10:04 PM  

Trump has a ceiling of 40%, and will never break it.

> Implying Trump can be stumped....

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2016 10:09 PM  

Rubio won Charleston County, but Trump stomped him in Berkeley County, so no 1st District. Rubio did even better in Richland County, but Trump stomped him in Aiken County and absolutely crushed him in Lexington County, so no 2nd District either. So far The Green Papers is "only" calling 44 delegates for Trump, but I'm calling all 50.

The weird thing is that I'm seeing some people posing like Rubio "trounced" Cruz and he should drop out. Uh no, 0.1% of the vote is not "trounced", and also Cruz still has more delegates. (Okay, only one more, but still. More.)

Rubio might have more upside moving forward, thanks to Bush dropping out, but as of now the Cubans are neck-and-neck. If anyone else should drop out it's Kasich, who barely got a third as many votes as Cruz and has half as many delegates as Rubio.

OpenID mattse001 February 20, 2016 10:12 PM  

Luckily, it won't take long to prove how ignorant you are of your own demise. If Kasich withdraws before March 1, you're going to have a ringside seat as Trump loses primary after primary, 33% to 40%.

OTOH, maybe I'm wrong.
Feel free to provide a plausible scenario as to how Trump gets a sizable portion of Jeb "Act of Love" Bush's voters, or John "St. Peter Loves Me" Kasich's.

Otherwise your only hope is if Cruz drops out, and even then I think Trump won't get 50% or more of his voters. You see, in a classic battle of the head versus the heart, the heart usually wins. Trump has burned bridges with Cruz and angered his voters with all his birther bullshit and lawsuits.

Blogger Scott6584 February 20, 2016 10:13 PM  

At the end of the night, with 99% reporting, Trump received 236,234 votes. Voters who did not vote for Trump number 489,828.

Bush is dropping out. I think it's a fair bet that his supporters will NOT be supporting Trump. We'll see who else may drop out before March 1st. But I believe assuming Trump will be the victor is premature. 67.5% of the voters did not vote for him. As the other candidates drop out, it will be very interesting to find out where Trump's ceiling is. Can he convince Republicans to vote for him, or is his appeal limited to Libertarians and Democrats who are simply choosing to vote in the Republican primary this year?

Carson already had a semi-secret meeting earlier this week with Cruz, and his voters are ideologically closer to Cruz than other candidates, although at least some of them are likely to go to Trump and/or Kasich.

I suspect many of Bush's supporters will migrate to Kasich if he can afford to stay in the race, but he's out of money. So, they may split themselves between Cruz and Rubio. It anyone's guess how that might split up.

It's going to be an interesting 10 days leading up to Super Tuesday on March 1st.

Anonymous The Kulak February 20, 2016 10:13 PM  

@TheRickWilson and his Naval Twitter War College buddy Tom "Russia won't do a damn thing to stop NATO in Syria" Nichols are real pieces of work.

Blogger alexamenos February 20, 2016 10:15 PM  

Rubio supporters: "Marco, Marco, Marco"
Cruz supporters: "Ted, Ted, Ted"
Trump supporters: "USA, USA, USA"

Cruz swears allegiance to Israel, Rubio swears allegiance to single mothers and brown people.

Anonymous Wyrd February 20, 2016 10:17 PM  

@mattse001

Gloom, despair, and agony on me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAAKPJEq1Ew

Blogger LP9 Rin Integra S.I.G. Burnin' Up, Dune soaked, 80 svedka - The Lord overrides all! February 20, 2016 10:18 PM  

But our host is kind and funny!

I am enjoying the speeches, looking forward to what Trump said in SC, heard the Hillary Sachs n' Jeb speaks.

Blogger praetorian February 20, 2016 10:19 PM  

We aren't going to let our memes just be dreams, mattsezerozeroone...

I love the sound of preference cascades in the evening. Smells like... expand trump.

Anonymous tublecane February 20, 2016 10:19 PM  

@8-The only thing that bothers me about jokes like "Faux News" is that it implies other channels are more genuine. Which they might be this go around, considering the Hilary is as crappy a stalwart establishment candidate as there's ever been and Trump seems to be more of a threat to the GOP elite than Sanders is to the Democrat elite. I don't know; I don't watch cable news anymore. Generally speaking, though, there's not a dime's difference between corporate news networks. It's not like there's some magic basket full of conservative reporters and producers to pull from. Journalists everywhere have a collective hive mind, and aside from the "talent" Fox's are no different.

Blogger Dexter February 20, 2016 10:23 PM  

Yes, the heart wins.

That is why they WILL vote TRUMP.

Blogger Silent Cal February 20, 2016 10:25 PM  

How is Rubio better than Jeb?

Is Rubio better than Jeb because he is actually some sort of Hispanic instead of just pretending to be one?

Is Rubio better than Jeb because he is another bone lazy, incompetent, foreigner?

Or is Rubio better than Jeb because he is even more effeminate than Jeb?

Blogger YIH February 20, 2016 10:25 PM  

8chan is having a field day with the news that Please Clap finally did something right.

Blogger Jamie-R February 20, 2016 10:31 PM  

Comments on news articles anywhere are great. #ThePeople

"Rubio is like clay in the masters hands. He can be molded into anything they want or need."

"The Media is pissed off because Trump uses them for what they are. Whores. He doesn't pay them for air time like Bush does, er did."

"Rubio: The object of Karl Rove's lust."

"We want a wall, not a bush!"

"In your FACE establishment!"

"Jebito! will pack his burro and head to de border, where the family will greet him -
With 'acts of love'"

"THIS IS SPARTAnburg! Molon Labe, baby."

I tell ya, on Twitter Rupert Murdoch will be sliding into Trump's DMs like "Hey yo what's up dawg"

Blogger praetorian February 20, 2016 10:33 PM  

I'm still laughing at the idea that a bunch of disgruntled white folk are gonna throw in w/ Rubio or Cruz, when Der Trumpfuhrer is standing down El Popé before lunch. How many divisions does the pope have?

Scott Adams looks smarter and smarter...

Anonymous A Reader February 20, 2016 10:33 PM  

"On the democrat side, I can see either Hillary's or Bernie's supporters switching to the eventual nominee in a unified effort. "

I hope I'm not engaging in wishful thinking on my part, but here's my take. The Millenials that I know that back Bernie Sanders detest Hillary Clinton.

If Hillary Clinton gets the Dem nomination, these Millenials I know personally will likely vote third party, such as the Greens or the Socialists.

In the General election, that might split the left-of-center vote. Its been said that George W. Bush won Florida in 2000 because of Ralph Nader. I can see the left-of-center vote splitting in two states in 2016.

Anonymous Scintan February 20, 2016 10:34 PM  

Trump has a ceiling of 40%, and will never break it.

It wasn't long ago that people were saying Trump had a ceiling of 30%. It was even more recently that people were saying Trump had a ceiling of 35%.

What good is this ceiling metaphor if the number keeps rising?

Anonymous Leonidas February 20, 2016 10:38 PM  

Anything less than 50% is a huge loss for @realDonaldTrump #SCPrimary

As long as the race stays 3+ candidates, Trump can win a majority of delegates with 35% of the vote. Been saying it for weeks. It's plain delegate math.

OpenID sigbouncer February 20, 2016 10:46 PM  

Trump kicked the Bushes in the balls on 9/11 and Jeb quit.

Now there's Ben Carson and 3 hairy smelly assholes left...

GO TRUMP!!!

Blogger JimR February 20, 2016 10:49 PM  

" But I believe assuming Trump will be the victor is premature. 67.5% of the voters did not vote for him."

Even higher percentages did not vote for any of the other candidates. So with your logic, the eventual GOP nominee will be someone who isn't currently running...

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 20, 2016 10:49 PM  

Trump does not need to win delegates or the nomination. He simply needs to win primaries. Come convention time, the American electorate will force the convention's hand: split the party and lose your member to a nationalist party victory, or keep him in house and make him the man.

Blogger Scott6584 February 20, 2016 10:53 PM  

Mattse001,

Cruz is not dropping out. Despite the laughable claims by some Trump supporters that Cruz is part of the establishment, Cruz has made it his mission since he arrived in Washington to oppose the Establishment in his own Party, and he's a true believer that they are a bunch of cheating, corrupt charlatans.

Also, Cruz lumps Rubio in with those other Republicans willing to sell out Republican base voters, so I'm not so sure he'd get behind Rubio. While I agree that Trump will not make it over the 50% threshold of Republican voters, there are two issues at play here. 1) How many disaffected voters and democrats can Trump convince to vote for him, thereby diluting the votes of those who are actually Republicans, and 2) I think it is equally unlikely that Rubio can achieve the 50% threshold if Cruz is still in the race.

I know that I am a Cruz supporter, and I can't stand Rubio. He's outright lying about Cruz supporting legalization. Yes, Cruz supported an amendment to the bill, but that amendment was just a tactical move to add a poison pill amendment that Democrats would not support, i.e. legalization without citizenship or voting rights. The point of the Democrats is to import new voters. Cruz knows that, and knows that giving them legal status without voting rights will never be supported by the Democrats.

So Cruz "supporting" the amendment was no different than a play-action pass in football. It was a fake to get the Democrats to defeat the bill. But it didn't pass anyway BECAUSE the Gang of Eight, including Rubio knew it was a poison pill. For Rubio to now suggest that Cruz ever supported legalization, when his amendment was for the purpose of defeating the bill, is just deception on Rubio's part.

Cruz voters are not the "style before substance" voters who love the preening alpha, just like a bunch of girls get wet over a preening Alpha. Cruz supporters actually understand what Cruz has been trying to do, and his goal of dismantling the Washington Cartel, as Cruz calls it. So, I think it is unlikely they'll just jump into bed with a two-faced, America-betraying guy like Rubio.

I think it's much more likely that Cruz will get to play King-maker. He may not get the nomination, but he'll likely make a deal with the Deal-maker Trump before bellying up to the table with Rubio & Co. We can speculate on what that deal is, but Trump and Cruz together defeat Rubio. And Cruz supporters have wanted the whole system blown up long before the BLOVIATOR from Queens announced for office, and got the gullible manosphere to swoon for him like teenage girls. But even a BLOVIATOR is preferable to a known betrayor of America like Rubio.


Blogger alexamenos February 20, 2016 10:58 PM  

It's a lot like the debt ceiling.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 10:58 PM  

@23 #8601 Jean Valjean
CNN has been surprisingly unbiased so far.
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CNN - nicknames through the years
Clinton News Network
Commie News Network
Caliphate News Network

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:08 PM  

@46 BGKB

I cant tell if Jeb's wife is uglier than Barry's.
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That's like trying to decide if a goblin is uglier than an orc :P

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral February 20, 2016 11:09 PM  

@106

And Cruz supporters have wanted the whole system blown up long before the BLOVIATOR from Queens announced for office, and got the gullible manosphere to swoon for him like teenage girls.

An interesting argument. Now convince me that the Financial Cabal want to change the game in Washington, and maybe I can consider it. Otherwise, it is just some other bloviation.

OpenID sigbouncer February 20, 2016 11:10 PM  

Ted Cruz aka The Pussy aka The Political chameleon on immigration at the beginning of his candidacy:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-knocks-scott-walker-on-immigration/article/2563591

SEN. TED CRUZ: My views on immigration are straightforward. I think there is considerable bipartisan agreement outside of Washington on immigration. There is overwhelming bipartisan agreement that we've got to get serious about securing the borders and stopping illegal immigration. There is considerable bipartisan agreement outside of Washington that we need to improve and streamline legal immigration so that we can remain a nation that welcomes and celebrates legal immigrants. I think it is a mistake for any politician to on the one hand embrace amnesty — embrace a pathway to citizenship for those who are here illegally — and on the other hand seek to restrict or punish legal immigrants. Amnesty is wrong. When I campaigned for the us senate I campaigned unambiguously against amnesty and was proud to receive 40 percent of the Hispanic vote in the state of Texas at the same time Mitt Romney was getting clobbered with 27 percent of the Hispanic vote nationwide. But I am the son of an immigrant who came legally from Cuba. Reagan referred to legal immigrants as Americans by choice and there is no stronger advocate of legal immigration in the U.S. Senate than I am. I think the right approach is to secure the border, follow the rule of law, and embrace and improve legal immigration.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:11 PM  

@53 VinnyBoomBatz
curious for your and the Ilk's opinions on an exit poll tonight. 52% want legal status for illegals, 44 for deportation. These are southern Republicans.
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Vinnie, you are talking about a place that has elected Linda Graham, Treyvon Gowdy, and Nikki Hair. They are a little out of kilter with the rest of the South.

Anonymous zen0 February 20, 2016 11:13 PM  

That's like trying to decide if a goblin is uglier than an orc

A matter of personal taste, I suppose.

Blogger Ahazuerus February 20, 2016 11:13 PM  

To quote Mel Smith and Griff Rhys Jones:

"Perhaps it was the complete absence of anything funny in the joke?"

But when called on it he tries to pretend he was joking, and that Vox lacks the sense of humour to see it.

The only problem, as above, is that he didn't say anything funny.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:13 PM  

@55 Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy

Yipes. We should rename Rinubio the Young Heaving Foamer or Cucksterism

Anonymous Gen. Kong February 20, 2016 11:14 PM  

Cruz is married to Goldman-Sachs. Of course he'll be the kingmaker - or (more accurately) the mouthpiece for those who'll select the king.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:19 PM  

@70 Napoleon 12pdr

Bush's pulling out is very good news for Rubio...probably not so much for Cruz and Trump. I think almost all Bush's supporters go to Rubio.
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Now Linda Graham has to endorse somebody new ROFLMAO

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:20 PM  

I thought Jeb! was gonna fix it?

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:24 PM  

@87 mattse001

Save all the yappin', and just say "Trump is Finished #2,402,203,200,000,191,398

Blogger YIH February 20, 2016 11:30 PM  

Adios Jeb!

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:34 PM  

LOL

Senor Jeb! sadly pulled out of the race, and retired, Sombrero in hand, to Mexico.

Blogger Scott6584 February 20, 2016 11:34 PM  

I don't believe that Trump can get over 50% of Republicans. That doesn't mean he cannot get over 50% of the people who decide to vote in the Republican primaries. If he can get enough Libertarians and Democrats to cross over and vote in the Republican primary, then he may well get more than 50% of the votes, even if he never gets 50% of Republicans.

And if the Democrats nominate Hillary, a good chunk of Bernie supporters may well cross the aisle to vote for Trump also. Trump is nothing if not adaptable, and I believe he can convince a lot of Bernie voters he's a better option than Hillary.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 20, 2016 11:35 PM  

I wonder if Trump is tired of winning yet?

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Confederacy February 20, 2016 11:41 PM  

I am just trembing with anticipation to find out how Trump will destroy Rubio.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY February 21, 2016 12:10 AM  

41. Jeff D
who in blue hell is Trump supposed to be but himself ?
Good grief.

Blogger LES February 21, 2016 12:16 AM  

They will all kiss Bibi Nutandyahoo's butt and the killing in the Middle East will increase.

Joe "I am a Zionist" Biden will be drafted at the Democratic convention and being unscathed by the primaries will win the election.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 12:22 AM  

Trump won this week despite coming out for health care mandate, defending planned parenthood, blaming Bush for 9/11, standing by impeachment.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY February 21, 2016 12:25 AM  

They will all kiss Bibi Nutandyahoo's butt and the killing in the Middle East will increase.

Joe "I am a Zionist" Biden will be drafted at the Democratic convention and being unscathed by the primaries will win the election.
It might not be winner take all for the Eskimos this time,DUDE.

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 12:37 AM  

106. Scott6584

I'm also a Cruz supporter. I have doubts that a majority of Cruz' followers will get behind Trump, especially when you consider what an obnoxious ass Trump and his followers are.
A good portion of them will be driven away by the kind of childish rhetoric you find here on this forum.

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 12:41 AM  

118. Were-Puppy

It's too early to say anyone's finished. That's the kind of statement you only hear from idiots or in straw man arguments.
Trump will be at a disadvantage very soon unless something unexpected happens.

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 12:44 AM  

121. Scott6584

I haven't seen a shred of evidence that Trump is pulling much of anybody from the Dems or libertarians. I've seen polls that say those groups dislike him the most.
I'm very skeptical that Trump can forge a majority using voters outside the right.

Anonymous Soga February 21, 2016 12:44 AM  

Scott6584 wrote:Trump won this week despite coming out for health care mandate, defending planned parenthood, blaming Bush for 9/11, standing by impeachment.

Links. Searching shows that Trump said he will defund Planned Parenthood.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 12:45 AM  

mattse001 sez:

Trump will be at a disadvantage very soon unless something I'm too dumb to think of happens.

FIFY.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 12:55 AM  

Meanwhile, Larry Ellison is concerned that his cost of labor might soon go up, so he gives money to Lubio's PAC.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 12:57 AM  

Whoa, how did Jeb get to Michigan so quickly?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY February 21, 2016 12:58 AM  

" especially when you consider what an obnoxious ass Trump and his followers are.
A good portion of them will be driven away by the kind of childish rhetoric you find here on this forum. "
You sound as if you are need of a hankie. Go get one ,us trump people don't give 'em out.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 1:01 AM  

Here you go Soga:

http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/14/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-does-wonderful-things-but-not-when-it-comes-to-abortion/

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 1:04 AM  

"I am just trembing with anticipation to find out how Trump will destroy Rubio."

It will have to something to do with Ebay, Channing Tatum's used thong from Magic Mike and a Hitler Moustache.

Blogger Elocutioner February 21, 2016 1:06 AM  

Scott6584 wrote:Trump won this week despite coming out for health care mandate, defending planned parenthood, blaming Bush for 9/11, standing by impeachment.

Parroting Chuck Todd's talking points.

https://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/701208529642717187

Anonymous Eric the Red February 21, 2016 1:09 AM  

@83, @87...
Sounds like wishful thinking, with some extraneous details thrown in (also known as spin). A more straightforward analysis would be...

The Winner of SC and NH Has Always Become GOP Nominee

Blogger SciVo February 21, 2016 1:12 AM  

SciVo wrote:If anyone else should drop out it's Kasich, who barely got a third as many votes as Cruz and has half as many delegates as Rubio.

Oh and Carson too, who I honestly forgot was even still in the race. He did even worse than Kasich and has even fewer delegates than Bush. He's a nice guy, but that's actually one of Trump's linguistic kill shots on him. The only reason I can see for him to stay in through Nevada is to party.

Anonymous 11B February 21, 2016 1:13 AM  

@90
Trump supporters: "USA, USA, USA"

I've noticed that too. I saw it recently when Trump had the veteran come on stage and speak. The crowd broke into the USA chant. I can't imagine that with the other GOP guys let alone the democrats.

I was at the ALCS between the Royals and the Blue Jays when the Royals fans broke into the USA chant. So I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the Trump supporters doing the same.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 1:14 AM  

Saw an interesting Tweet tonight:

"Real talk: If Cruz drops out, a great many of his supporters go to Trump, not Rubio.

If Rubio drops out, most or all go to Cruz."

I don't think Cruz or Rubio are dropping out.

Blogger SciVo February 21, 2016 1:15 AM  

mattse001 wrote:121. Scott6584

I haven't seen a shred of evidence that Trump is pulling much of anybody from the Dems or libertarians. I've seen polls that say those groups dislike him the most.

I'm very skeptical that Trump can forge a majority using voters outside the right.


Okay. Here you go.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 1:21 AM  

"I'm also a Cruz supporter. I have doubts that a majority of Cruz' followers will get behind Trump"

That's because after shilling for that ambulance chaser... You Cruz supporters will be on to the National Used Car Salesman of the year awards to find your next candidate.

Anonymous Eric the Red February 21, 2016 1:23 AM  

@126...

Donald J. Trump Verified account 
‏@realDonaldTrump
I was asked about healthcare by Anderson Cooper & have been consistent- I will repeal all of #ObamaCare, including the mandate, period.

Everything else you say can likewise not be trusted. "Consider the source", and all that.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 21, 2016 1:29 AM  

@128

Why are you whining?

Anonymous Soga February 21, 2016 1:31 AM  

So... the fact that Trump likes what PP does other than anything involving chopping babies is an indictment on Trump?

Also, you're lying about Trump's stance on Obamacare and blaming Bush for 9/11. Nowhere has Trump ever said he blamed Bush for 9/11. He blamed the Bush administration for not doing something about the information they had regarding what would become the 9/11 attack.

Man, Trump's opponents really are desperate to find something to smear Trump with.

Blogger praetorian February 21, 2016 1:32 AM  

You guys want some top-shelf topkek? Here's some top-shelf topkek...

Donald John Trump is going to win the 2016 United States Presidential Election, and mattse001 is gonna vote for him.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 1:34 AM  

Sean Hannity said on Fox tonite that "Trump has said the same exact thing on his healthcare plan/Obamacare for the last 7 times he has had Trump on" his show.

Hannity followed that up with "for some reason the media never reports this, I don't know why?"

Blogger Groot February 21, 2016 1:36 AM  

@138. Elocutioner:
"Parroting Chuck Todd's talking points."

From Todd's interview with the Donald:

"Trump said that he 'possibly' donated to Planned Parenthood and suggested he supports affirmative action, laws banning businesses from firing gay employees, and statehood for Washington, D.C."

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 1:44 AM  

Soga,

So, I guess you didn't watch the debate last Saturday...

Blogger YIH February 21, 2016 1:58 AM  

LES:
Joe "I am a Zionist" Biden will be drafted at the Democratic convention and being unscathed by the primaries will win the election.
Pure speculation: Obama does not want to indict Hillary. He's hoping Sanders can come reasonably close, if not beat her outright. Let her not get nominated, and just go away.
Biden (and the indictment) will only be put in play if that's what it takes to keep Hillary out.

Blogger Elocutioner February 21, 2016 1:59 AM  

@150 Groot - It was literally a cut and paste of the tweet. And as shown above it's full of half-truths. That has been par for the course in my interactions with Cruz supporters on social media for weeks.

As for Cruz supporters not backing Trump - I would expect at least half not to not vote rather than support the demon that is Trump. I mean, God sacrificed Scalia AND threw the Pope at him and he still won it walking away. Something is seriously wrong with that guy.

Blogger John M February 21, 2016 2:06 AM  

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Blogger John M February 21, 2016 2:07 AM  

"If Rubio drops out, most or all go to Cruz."

Not necessary, a lot of people in the Establishment seem to have implied that they would rather get behind Trump than Cruz. Rubio dropping out would probably put all the cuckservatives on white flag mode and force them to reassert what they have been doing.

Blogger YIH February 21, 2016 2:11 AM  

Scott6584:
I don't think Cruz or Rubio are dropping out.
As long as they are virtually tied, no. The GOPe need that to continue to keep their hopes of a brokered convention alive.
Namely, the both of them get enough delegates to come close to or (ideally for the GOPe) top Trump in the count. THEN one drops out and pledges their delegates to the other.
Then the brokered convention, with Trump of course, losing. Do I expect them to pull something like that? Damn right.

Anonymous Soga February 21, 2016 3:19 AM  

@151

So I guess you've got nothing aside from secondhand commentary and wildly bad comprehension, which is just sad, considering Trump's very simple language.

Blogger Groot February 21, 2016 4:01 AM  

@153. Elocutioner:

It's a quote straight from Instapundit. Nobody who's been watching this thinks Trump's a demon. He's hilarious. He's me (plus a few decades). I totally get him, and can't help laughing whenever he performs. He's also a Democrat. He will cuck you.

I will now refrain from calling you a cuck. But these guys, totally not you because I'm generous, do exist. I'd occasionally come across their sub-culture when I was single, and they all know each other. They're not sharing their girlfriends/wives (though they are): they're sharing you, and it's sick. He's playing you, because it's fun and your wife is cute. Wipe that grin off your face and stop staring at his ass.

Anonymous 11B February 21, 2016 6:25 AM  

Trump won this week despite coming out for health care mandate, defending planned parenthood, blaming Bush for 9/11, standing by impeachment.

Trump won this week because he is the only one right on the only issue that matters, immigration.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 8:00 AM  

@159

Trump didn't win because of immigration. He won because of political correctness. People are sick and tired of being told what they aren't allowed to say, and react viscerally when someone finally tells the politically correct clergy to go F*** themselves - which is what Trump is doing.

None of that changes the fact that Trump is a Democrat, and will likely make deals with Democrats that will make most of his supporters cry. But by then, it will be too late.

The ONLY reason to support Trump over Rubio is that Rubio has ALREADY sold out the Tea Party people who put him in office, when he joined the Gang of Eight. With Trump, he hasn't yet had the opportunity to sell you out. So, there is a glimmer of hope that he won't. But his background of giving literal;y hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrats is an indication of what he'd do in office.

Vox talks about not trusting conservatives because they are unreliable. But if his candidate wins, we will all find out exactly what unreliable means. Electing a Democrat running as a Republican is not the path toward reliability.

But even I get the support for Trump on a gut level. It's refreshing for someone to finally be saying things that aren't supposed to be said. But Trump is also a feminist, and won't breach THAT PC barrier. So, adjust your expectations, or you are doomed to be sorely disillusioned.

Anonymous Mr. Rational February 21, 2016 8:12 AM  

@101 Trump knows construction.  OF COURSE he can raise ceilings!

Anonymous Millenium February 21, 2016 8:14 AM  

Have some Applied Memetics interns found this blog? Cruz will be begging his masters at Goldman Sachs for more money at this rate.

Blogger justthinkin February 21, 2016 8:15 AM  

@#10 God I'm old! I had to google "foam party."

@#19 That's Miss Lindsey to you!

@#81 Rocky times? Trump is calling Cruz a liar!

Did anyone notice that there were only about 10,000 votes between Hillary and Bernie? Is that normal for Nevada?

Blogger justthinkin February 21, 2016 8:29 AM  

@#10 God I'm old! I had to google "foam party."

@#19 That's Miss Lindsey to you!

@#81 Rocky times? Trump is calling Cruz a liar!

Did anyone notice that there were only about 10,000 votes between Hillary and Bernie? Is that normal for Nevada?

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 10:57 AM  

But even I get the support for Trump on a gut level. It's refreshing for someone to finally be saying things that aren't supposed to be said. But Trump is also a feminist, and won't breach THAT PC barrier. So, adjust your expectations, or you are doomed to be sorely disillusioned.

But surely less disappointed than with the rest of them who are simply donor class whores!

Blogger VD February 21, 2016 11:01 AM  

Trump didn't win because of immigration.

Yes, he did. If you think otherwise, you're not tall enough for this ride.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 11:19 AM  

@166

Cruz has the same EXACT stance on immigration as Trump. Trump is not winning over Cruz because of immigration. He's winning because he's audacious enough to say it in a way that purposely riles us the PC crowd, and then laugh in their face. It's his boldness, and lack of political correctness that is appealing.

But here's the rub. Just because Trump believes he should be able to say whatever he wants to say doesn't mean he believes you should be able to say it. For Trump, it's one set of rules for him, and another set for everyone else.

I flat out don't trust Trump. I think he's telling you what you want to hear, and his actual values don't include freedom and respect for the average man. I think he's a con man - a very, very skilled con man. If I actually believed him, I'd be right there supporting him also. I just don't.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 11:20 AM  

riles up

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler February 21, 2016 11:36 AM  

Cruz and Rubio, Scott6584, are not Natural Born citizens and are ineligible to run for the Presidency.

Second, I don't know how you read character, myself and many others notice that Trump is speaking from his heart. He was educated in a military school as a youth that imbued him with Virtue. They don't lie, cheat, steal. That was drummed into all their heads.

If you are truly a conservative, Scott65, you can't vote for either Cruz or Rubio. You want to point out the faults of Trump, but you have a greater fault in not obeying the law.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 12:28 PM  

Drudge on the SC Election Result.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 12:41 PM  

"Cruz has the same EXACT stance on immigration as Trump."

Don't be an idiot. @111

" I think he's telling you what you want to hear, and his actual values don't include freedom and respect for the average man. I think he's a con man - a very, very skilled con man."

Says the guy who trusts the ambulance chaser who wrote an 8 page manifesto on how great G W Bush's policies are... Who is on record gushing over the great value of the TPP... Who already bailed out the banks once and is funded by those very Wall St banks in NY that he is critical of (both the banks and state)... Whose wife works for Goldman Sucks.

Just who is the real Ted Cruz?

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/who-is-the-real-ted-cruz/

Blogger tz February 21, 2016 12:52 PM  

Cruz may have adopted the same words as Trump but no one believes he will actually follow through.
Rubio won two counties. Trump won the rest. Cruz won ZERO counties, ZERO delegates. Apparently Evangelicals don't TrusTed.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 1:08 PM  

Cruz and Rubio both qualify as natural born citizens. Trump's accusation against Cruz is a brilliant diversionary tactic by Trump designed to deceive voters who don't understand the laws of citizenship. And it was a tacit encouragement of others to sue Cruz - which worked because Cruz is having to defend lawsuits in 7 states. Kudos to Trump on his tactical gambit.

But just like Cruz trying to introduce an amendment to the Gang of Eight Bill to ostensibly legalize illegal immigrants while denying them a path to citizenship was a ruse to kill that bill, Trump's threat to sue Cruz was a tactical move, a ruse to distract Cruz from the campaign. And guess what? It worked. That was a brilliant move by Trump. I'll give him credit for that.

Also, I don't blame Trump for using what's available to try to win, just as I don't hold it against Cruz for "supporting" an amendment that would kill the Amnesty plan by Rubio, et al. This is a heat of the battle tactical move. I think Cruz understands that. And if Trump wins the nomination and offers Cruz the VP slot, then it will prove that Trump never believed that his citizenship is an issue. And guess what? When the courts rule in favor of Cruz, Trump will get to say, "Well, now that the issue is settled, Cruz is the best choice for VP." All-in-all, Trump has to be given a lot of credit for the ploy. It has worked to his favor, and knocked Cruz back.

One other thing about Cruz vs. Rubio. Rubio is a classic Catholic Hispanic immigrant, and because the Catholic Church teaches its people to approach God through the agency of the priesthood, it inculcates a value system from a young age that is more amenable to state control. Rubio is only 1/2 Cuban, having a white mother. Also, his father rejected the Catholic Church, becoming a born-again Christian in the Baptist Church. Baptists a famously anti-authoritarian, which is reflected in Cruz's political ideology. It is why Cruz has been willing to stand almost all alone fighting against the tyranny of his own Republican Party. The core values of Rubio also explain why he's been willing to go along with the "authorities" of his party, and become co-opted by the Establishment Republicans after being elected by rebellious Tea Party citizens.

Many people who were initially enamored with Rubio have a keen sense of betrayal over his involvement in the Gang of Eight immigration bill.

It quite frankly is a mis-reading of the Republican rank and file to assume the base of voters that support Cruz will support Rubio. And claiming that Cruz is somehow beholden to the Establishment simply because he took out a loan from a bank, which he later repaid is just ludicrous.

If you bother to actually examine the career of Cruz vs. the other candidates, he stands out as a guy who has always been willing to fight against the powers that be - a reflection of his Protestant upbringing, and also a reflection of his White heritage. In contrast, Rubio is completely immersed in the South Florida Cuban culture, and he is a product of the Catholic respect-authority culture.

So, in the end, I don't think Cruz voters are part of the cuckservative Establishmentat all, and I certainly don't believe that Cruz himself is a part of that, especially since he's shown through his actions and choices that he has been a staunch supporter of those who have been betrayed by the very Republican leadership Vox Day rightfully despises. Painting Cruz with that same brush is just not true, even if it is tactically advantageous for Trump supporters to attempt to do that in order to get Trump elected.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 1:16 PM  

"If you bother to actually examine the career of Cruz vs. the other candidates, he stands out as a guy who has always been willing to fight against the powers that be - a reflection of his Protestant upbringing, and also a reflection of his White heritage."

You're full of more shit than a Christmas turkey...

Anonymous 11B February 21, 2016 1:46 PM  

@167

Don't conflate illegal immigration with immigration. Both are bad. Both are the mass immigration of non-Europeans that will demographically alter, some fear destroy, the USA and Europe.

On that Trump and Cruz are not the same. Cruz might talk tough on illegal immigration, but he is all for expanding work visas companies use to import labor. Cruz would not cutback on legal immigration levels.

On the other hand Trump has already thrown out the bomb that he would halt muslim immigration completely until "we can figure it out." This is significant because it is the first time probably since 1965 that a guy running for president with a good chance of winning has even suggested we have the right to restrict immigration. Trump doesn't support the continued insane levels of current legal immigration either.

Don't get yourself pigeon-holed into opposing only illegal immigration. Once you do and allow legal immigration to become sacrosanct, the powers that be will just increase the legal levels from one million to two million to three million. We are still screwed. Only Trump is bringing up the question of reducing, and in some cases halting, legal immigration.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 3:39 PM  

"Trump doesn't support the continued insane levels of current legal immigration."

Except that his mother and his wife are both legal immigrants. And just for the record, Cruz went after Rubio for his plan to increase legal immigration also. So the assertion that he wouldn't slow the pace of legal immigration doesn't match his record.


I accept that I'm not going to convince many, if anyone who is already sold out for Trump. But I honestly think you're being played. I really do believe that Trump is a part of the Establishment - just the business wing, not the political wing. And when the New York Establishment business community saw that the Political Wing was going to trot out Bush v. Clinton once again, it stepped in. Trump stepped in on the Republican side, and Bloomberg is preparing to step in on the Democrat side.

The point of the Establishment is to maintain control. And if the Political wing won't do it, then the Business Wing will. Trump readily admits to bribing politicians to get his way. He's not the solution to the Establishment. He is the Establishment.

You're getting duped.

(And for those worried about a paid off loan Cruz once took out, Trump has had billions in loans from those same bankers, and still is in hock to them for his properties and businesses.)

The cognitive dissonance of those supporting Trump astounds me. It's a purely emotional reaction to years of getting played by both political parties to support a guy who is transparently going to screw you over. Don't say you weren't warned.

The sad part is that it will not be just you who pays the price for being duped. It is the whole country, which is nearly an exact repeat of what happened 8 years ago. Sigh...

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 3:44 PM  

132. The Other Robot

Any time you're ready to prove you're smarter than me, go ahead and tell us how Trump gets Jeb's/Kasich's/Carson's supporters more than the other candidates. Or, tell us how Trump will get other voters who magically appear somewhere. Or, tell us how votes won't matter because [X].
Or is moronic chest thumping all you got?

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 3:48 PM  

Or is moronic chest thumping all you got?

Dude, is that all you've got?

No wonder Cruz is a hopeless loser.

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 3:49 PM  

143. SciVo
Quoting the NYT, huh? I guess they suddenly become credible when it suits you, because I wouldn't trust them to tell the truth when lying would advance their cause but I guess you would.

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 3:51 PM  

144. sigbouncer
You are the perfect example of why Cruz supporters will find it difficult to support Trump. Thank you for making my case.

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 3:58 PM  

By the way, according to Financial Disclosure reports Trump filed last summer, he is currently $265 million in debt to NY banks.

Just for the record: http://images.businessweek.com/cms/2015-07-22/7-22-15-Report.pdf

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 4:00 PM  

178. The Other Robot
Question answered.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 4:04 PM  

Your welcome. I've said this before here. The only people duped by The Cruz Ruse are religious zealots and the deep south.

We don't need your vote if you're that easily lead... The war we are fighting requires stabilized thinking.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 4:08 PM  

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/top-cruz-team-member-speaks-out-against-his-candidates-repeated-lies/article/2583790

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 4:16 PM  

One last comment before I stop posting on this subject here:

8 years ago, people accused Obama of being a blank slate onto which people could project their hopes and aspirations. That was only partly true. If you actually listened to what Barack Obama was saying, and took him at his word, he came out and promised to do exactly what he has done as President - fundamentally transform America, and reduce America's power and prestige in the World. It was therefore not shocking to me at all when he went to the Islamic World and started apologizing for America.

This time around, Trump is ALSO telling us exactly what he will do. He will make deals. He'll make deals with Democrats because he claims that the Clintons, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are all friends of his. He'll make a deal with China - just one that he declares is "better" than the one we already have. He'll make a deal on immigration. He'll make deals with Russia. His guiding priniciple is the idea that when he makes deals, he makes the right ones. And any deals he makes will be right according to that definition. And as he has always done, he will sue anyone who criticizes him.

So, I fully expect President Trump to do EXACTLY what he is promising to do. But like Obama was a blank slate for the projections of Hope and Change, Trump is also a blank slate for those who want to "Make America Great Again", whatever that means. It's a slogan, not a governing principle.

Trump will govern in EXACTLY the same way Obama has - by Executive Fiat. And that, my friends, is the antithesis of the principles on which America was founded. If that is okay with you, then by all means vote for him. But what that really means is that America, as originally conceived, is over. Instead of governing ourselves, we as a whole prefer to be ruled by Kings. It is an attempt to escape the burden of responsibility for self-government. It is cowardly, and un-American...or at least it used to be. But if that is what America is now, I guess that is what it is.

If America first elects Obama on a cult of personality from the Left, and then Trump on a cult of personality from the right, that means that America has become entirely a cult of personality. Welcome to the Kardashian world of modern politics - just a bunch of attention whore sluts who titillate and entertain while they steal our freedom and prosperity...and ultimately, our very souls.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 4:23 PM  

"go ahead and tell us how Trump gets Jeb's/Kasich's/Carson's supporters more than the other candidates."

Trump will easily get more of Carson's voters than any other candidate. As Trump and Carson are the only two political outsiders currently remaining on the ticket. The people voting for Trump and Carson have no concern for previous political experience. In fact, they prefer it that their candidate is not part of the establishment.

Trump will get at minimum half of Carson's voters. And depending upon who is left when Carson drops out... Trump could get as high as 75-80% of Carson's voters.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 4:30 PM  

"This time around, Trump is ALSO telling us exactly what he will do. He will make deals. He'll make deals with Democrats...

So, I fully expect President Trump to do EXACTLY what he is promising to do.

Trump will govern in EXACTLY the same way Obama has - by Executive Fiat."

You're a walking talking contradiction of yourself... No wonder you like Cruz.

OpenID mattse001 February 21, 2016 5:22 PM  

Wow. 2/3rds of Carson's 6% is...4%. Meanwhile, Rubio will get 14% from Jeb and Kasich's supporters and another 1% from Carson, putting him at 37%.
That will be a dead heat with Trump.
After that, it'll be a brokered convention. Who do you imagine will be controlling that event besides the establishment?

Your magical thinking is pathetic.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 5:40 PM  

I took pity on you mattse001. Here are some clues.

DailyPundit on How much Trump has changed things

Trump has knocked Bush out of the primaries.

Trump has 61 delegates which is more than five times the number that the bankster-owned Cruz has.

Trump won all 50 delegates in SC.

Your nancy-boy bankster-buddy is not going to overcome his deficits, and has has Glenn Beck farting for him. That's sure to be a winner.

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 5:45 PM  

Bush and Kasich pulled a combined 5% in Iowa whilst Carson pulled 9%... Despite Cruz camp lying to Iowa voters in saying Carson quit.

In South Carolina Bush and Kasich pulled a combined 15.4% whilst Carson pulled 7.2%.

There is no way New England (as in New Hampshire etc) state voters will go all in for the establishment candidate. Trump will get roughly half of any Bush-Kasich voters in New England states.

The only magic here is in your very biased and misleading mathematical numbers (imagine a Cruz guy telling lies, surprise surprise).

Oh and Trump is currently polling near 50% in Florida. Bursting another hole in your "Trump's ceiling is 40%" bubble.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/266471-trump-nears-50-percent-in-florida-poll

OpenID sigbouncer February 21, 2016 6:04 PM  

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article61652557.html

Things sure look good for Donald Trump.

The Republican presidential race expanded across the country Sunday, and polls show the real estate mogul ahead in eight of the dozen states voting in the next nine days.

Trump has now won primaries in two very different states, center-right New Hampshire and evangelical-dominated South Carolina. And the Republican Party system of choosing a presidential nominee favors candidates who continue to win early primaries and caucuses.

“He seems to have about a third of the Republican electorate under his spell, and it’s a durable, non-ideological coalition,” said Kyle Kondik, managing editor at Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball Sunday.

The biggest hope for stopping Trump is for a single strong challenger to emerge, and so far that hasn’t happened.

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., finished second Saturday in South Carolina, but he was 10 percentage points behind Trump and barely edged Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, even though Rubio barnstormed the state with popular Gov. Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C.

Rubio also lacks an obvious state where he can win in the next few weeks. He should be a favorite in Tuesday’s Nevada caucus. Rubio lived in Las Vegas as a child, was a church member, and Sunday picked up the endorsement of Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nevada. But a CNN/ORC poll last week showed Trump with a huge lead, with more support than Rubio and Cruz combined.

Trump is also going to find a delegate selection process to his liking. The Republican race now is less about who finishes second or third than who can win the 1,237 delegates needed to win the nomination at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland.

Republican Party Chairman Reince Priebus deliberately crafted a process designed to produce a nominee quickly. By March 15, about 60 percent of Republican delegates will have been chosen.

Rules favor winners. In some states, candidates must get at least 20 percent of the vote to win delegates. In theory, if someone won 35 percent, and no one else got 20 percent, that candidate would win all the state’s delegates.

On March 15, the system changes again to promote an early nominee. States then can award all their delegates to the winner, period, no matter what the margin. That means someone could squeak through in Florida, which has a March 15 primary, and get all its 99 delegates.

Priebus is eager for a quick result. “I can’t control everyone’s mouth,” he said on the “Politinerds” radio show, “but I can control how long we have to kill each other.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/march1GOP.html

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 6:11 PM  

Hey, Mattse001, tell us again how Cruz is so great that he did not get a single delegate from SC.

Anonymous Andrew E. February 21, 2016 9:28 PM  

It's amazing how the Cruz supporters so blithely state how Cruz and Rubio qualify as natural born citizens. This from those who style themselves the True Constitutionalists. It is an open question and there is much evidence that you need to be born on the land to two citizen parents. This issue is not going away, nor should it.

http://powderedwigsociety.com/eligibility-of-cruz-and-rubio/

Blogger Scott6584 February 21, 2016 9:47 PM  

Andrew, If that is the case, then Trump is disqualified because his mother was not a citizen when he was born.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 10:02 PM  

Andrew, If that is the case, then Trump is disqualified because his mother was not a citizen when he was born.

No doubt we will see the Donor Class switch blithely to a court case to decide Trump's eligibility.

Anonymous Andrew E. February 21, 2016 10:05 PM  

Trump's mother was naturalized in 1942.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 10:06 PM  

Andrew, If that is the case, then Trump is disqualified because his mother was not a citizen when he was born.

Actually, that is not true. She became a citizen in 1942, four years before Trump was born, according to this site.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2016 10:22 PM  

It seems that the Cruz supporters will say any old shit they like.

I guess they are just what Cruz needs.

Anonymous Discard February 21, 2016 10:33 PM  

Why does anybody even think of voting for a Hispanic? They are not us.

As for Trump? I'm trying to vote "Destruct", and hoping that Trump is the tool.

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