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Monday, February 08, 2016

Transcript: RooshV press conference 6/2/16

This is the complete transcript from Roosh's press conference in Washington DC on Friday night. It is abundantly evident that the only thing Roosh has ever raped is the media's narrative. Roosh explains his take on the press conference on his own site.

Roosh: All right, are you ready? Is that a yes? Oh, we have a new one. Where do you work from?

Female Reporter: Um, Martha Stewart?

Roosh: Martha Stewart?

Female Reporter: Yes.

(Laughter)

Roosh: Okay, yeah, sure. I don't know how she got in here. Someone must have told her. All right, so first I'm going to make a statement and then you can ask me anything. Cool?

All right, so the world has gone insane in the past week. Why? Number one, I had organized meet ups around the world for men to enjoy a social happy hour to meet in private and talk about anything. Work, politics, girls, just to meet. Okay? Number two, a year ago I wrote an article How to Stop Rape. This article, to a 10-year-old, was obvious that I didn't intend to legalize rape or cause harm against women. But starting on Sunday, a lot of you have lied by saying that I am a pro-rape advocate. He wants women to get hurt! And then the third thing, you said the meet ups are about rapists. They want to gather to learn how to rape. They are going to exchange tips. Some of you have called it a rape rally! What the hell is that? A rape rally? So because of that I've been all over the world in terms of the news. Over 100 articles have been written.

The result is what? I'm currently the most hated man in the world. Governments from all over the world have talked about me. Australia has tried to keep me out. They called up their Navy to keep me out because they thought that I was going to get in through a private yacht. So the Navy got called up. In England, the House of Commons debated me for half an hour to say how I'm a bad man who shouldn't be allowed entry. Mayors from everywhere, Canada, have said were going to keep him out (like they could anyway they are just a mayor, a mayor can't keep someone out). The governor of Texas said the same thing. Police from everywhere said that all meetups will be monitored. A private meetup for men is going to be monitored. 1984 is here.

Worst of all, my family's address was put on the Internet through the hacking group Anonymous and your colleagues at the Daily Mail confirmed the doxx and say that I my mom's meatloaf everyday. Dozens of threats have come in. Someone said that they're going to burn my house down but save my mom. So I'm glad, but you have to understand that your work and the work of your own colleagues have incited a mob based on lies that has put my family in danger. If they get hurt right now, God forbid, it's because of you. It's because you didn't read a damn article, you misinterpreted, and now we have this rage mob to where, as you can see, I had to hide this. I told you don't tell anyone.

I must state right now that not a single woman has been hurt by me. I've never been accused of rape. I've never been charged. No follower of mine has read something by me and then gone to rape because I know if they did hurt a woman it would be all over the news. Not a single woman has been hurt. Yet, there is a real rape mob somewhere and there is media from the country where that mob is. Who wants to volunteer what country has an active rape mob? What happened on New Year's Eve in Cologne? Does anyone know? Someone? On New Year's Eve mobs of men assaulted women, they raped them, and what did you guys do? You covered it up. So when a real rape happens that goes against the agenda of your boss, you actually hide it. But then when no rapes happen and I try to do a meetup you lose your shit.

So I just wanted to come here just to state that not only are you guys not honest in your reporting of me but that no one has been harmed and when real harm takes place you don't say anything. That is not right and not fair. I pray to God that nothing happens to anyone that is close to me and if it does it's your fault. That's my statement.

All right, is there anything else?

Reporter: Why do you think people think of you as a rapist?

Roosh: They need a target to get all the rage that the citizens have to put it on someone that doesn't conflict with the agenda of your bosses and the ruling establishment. Roosh, go after him, it doesn't matter if he gets hurt but we can't go against our immigrant agenda. We can't go against the feminist agenda. So we need to get the masses (the idiots who believe the stuff that you write) and put it on to something else. So you put it on me. I'm just a scapegoat. They are just using me. But, I'm going to harness this. I'm going to harness all this coverage that you guys are giving me and convert it to money and women. That's what I'm going to do. That's the job that I have to do. I'm getting emails from a lot of girls right now and I plan (once this drama dies down if I can survive it) I may have to get in touch with them. That's what you given me. You have made me one of the most famous men in the world. Granted, it was a lie. It was a lie. But hey, this is where we are right now so I'm going to work with what you gave me.

Female Reporter: Do you acknowledge that any of your writing might be genuinely offensive or upsetting to some people?

Roosh: So what?

Female Reporter: Do you blame all of their reaction solely on media misinterpretation?

Roosh: I blame them for not reading what I write, for taking the mentality of a 10-year-old kid.

Female Reporter: Your writing is offensive on its face.

Roosh: So what? So what? I have freedom of speech. Be offended, good, that means my writing got you.

Female Reporter: So you acknowledge that you did provoke some of this yourself.

Roosh: I acknowledge that as a writer my job is to get attention and I did it. Right? But so what if you are offended. So what if I make fun of you? Is that we're at right now that we can't write things that hurt people's feelings? Good, get offended, feel something, but don't lie. Don't lie. And that's what you guys have done.

Male Reporter: So do you consider yourself a victim in this scenario?

Roosh: You know what? No. I take full responsibility for everything that I have done but that doesn't mean that I can't state what you did wrong. I'm not saying "oh, I wish I could turn back the hands of time. I wish I didn't write that article." No, I wrote it. It came from my mind and it's going to stay. But if you did something wrong then I get to  call you out on it too. Right?

Female Reporter: So, do you have any regrets about publishing the article?

Roosh: None. None.

Female Reporter: Well, you added this was a thought experiment this week. Do you regret not adding that early on?

Roosh: I regret that people are so stupid that I have to put that in there right now. I never imagined that people would take that in a literal way to lie in order to push their miserable agenda. I never thought that you guys would lie about it. But now, because the masses believe the nonsense that you write, I have to treat everyone like an eight-year-old kid and say this was a thought experiment even though to anyone who is not an idiot should have known that.

Reporter: So why did you write it originally?

Roosh: Because I am a writer and I write things to make a point. That article was making a point about personal responsibility. That a woman's safety is not only in the hands of men but it's in their own hands too. That's why. I guess that point didn't get through, so on that account I did fail. I failed to give the point but that doesn't mean that I did anything wrong. I did not.

Reporter: So a woman that got raped did something wrong.

Roosh: You know, if a woman got raped that is a sad thing. That is a bad thing. But whose fault is it? Is it the woman fault? No, I'm not saying that. But a woman can do things to reduce the likelihood that she will get hurt. If I get a BMW car right now and I leave the key inside and I park it in a bad area and it gets robbed. Whose fault is that? Is it the thief's fault? Or is it my fault for being a moron?

Reporter: It's the thief's fault.

Roosh: Okay, but would you advise me to leave the key in there? Of course not! Only an idiot would. So okay, so I'll go ahead and be an idiot but don't be mad when her car gets stolen. Just do the right things to keep yourself safe. We can't even tell people what to do anymore to keep themselves safe? That's weird.

Reporter: When you say thought experiment, what was the thought experiment? What specifically?

Roosh: The thought experiment is that if the government wasn't completely holding the hand of adult women every step of the way and telling them that nothing you can do is wrong, maybe they would do a little bit of a better job not incapacitating themselves with alcohol and drugs and meeting random guys on the Internet that they don't know and going to his house to watch Netflix.

Reporter: But is this experiment just one blog post? Is it a website? Is it books?

Reporter 2: Can you just break down the lie? What I mean by that is can you break down the the crux of your article? Because some people here are unfamiliar, at least I am. I'm not from the Daily Mail.

Roosh: Can you read? I mean can you guys go. No, look guys, you want me to break it down. Read it!

Reporter: I mean how it got twisted by the media.

Roosh: The media said that the article said that this man wants to legalize rape. That was a lie.

Reporter: Okay, what part of your satirical argument that you're making can you maybe understand that they took and turned it into that lie?

Roosh: Not honest. They were not honest and they knew it. The people who wrote that and said that the article is true, that that is a "pro-rape" article, they lied. That's it. They are lying people. Most people in the media are liars.

Reporter: So you made a suggestion in this article which was what? Because I haven't read it.

Roosh: Are you listening to what I'm saying, my friend? I'm telling you that I tried to make a point about personal responsibility. That's what I did. Okay? You missed that point. Everyone here did. Some people got it.

Reporter: Is this like a multi-year point though? You been trying to do this for like four, five, six years. What about, like, Return of Kings?

Roosh: Okay, is there an article there that you don't like? That you got offended by?

Reporter: Well, on the front page as soon as you get there one click away it gives you a list of articles to read on “Rape Culture” Was Manufactured To Wage An Unjust War Against Men.

Roosh: Bingo.

Reporter: The Equality Movement Is Allowing Women To Tyrannize Men. The Deregulation Of The Sexual Marketplace.

Roosh: Okay, you're just reading headlines, man. Read the articles.

Reporter: Is this is part of your thought experiment?

Roosh: No, these articles are making a point. They provide evidence. They provide arguments. You've read it and you take from it what you want but don't then go into your media outlet to lie about it.

Reporter: Is the satire something else?

Roosh: How to Stop Rape was a satirical article.

Reporter: Okay.

Roosh: These are not.

Female Reporter: So, you know the outrage isn't only about that one article. A lot of people think that you're writing about women in general being submissive and [bad audio]. It's also offensive.

Roosh: I don't care.

Female Reporter: Is that something that you believe?

Roosh: Do I believe that a woman should submit to a man? Yes. Does that mean that my family's address should be put online because of that? And the media should stake out their home because of what I write? No. Using these lies to incite these idiots on the Internet? No.

Reporter: What's your justification for believing that women should be submissive? That seems to be…

Roosh: I'm not here to argue why I believe what I do. Okay? You have to go online, I've been writing for years and years, if you really care about that go do your homework. I'm just here to talk about the events of the past week.

Reporter: I did read some of the things that you wrote and I'm curious and a lot of people here meeting you for the first time are curious to know where you…

Roosh: I really think that you guys don't read things. You see, Caitlin will write something and you're like "Okay, Caitlin's article it's getting hits so I'm going to copy and paste hers". So it's like a game. You guys are writing the same thing. I'm just try to understand what is happened. As you can see of been under a lot of stress from all this mob that is coming after me because of the things that you wrote that don't conform to the real world. I don't get it. And it's clear to me that you guys haven't done your research. You're ready to write that this guy is pro-rape without knowing where that false idea comes from.

Female Reporter: Roosh, I have a question for you from the Bang books. So I obviously have done my research and there are several instances…

Roosh: I know. She has known about me.

Female Reporter: ...There are several instances in the Bang books where you recount having sex with women who were too drunk or incapacitated to consent. Now people reading that would certainly come away with the impression that you raped those women.

Roosh: I don't know anyone except for maybe you that thinks that and people who have lost their minds when it comes to consensual sex. People who don't have any idea what girls are doing outside right now and what they will do in an hour or two once they get drunk and pick the guy that they like and let him do whatever he wants with her. So macho sex writing, to convert that to rape takes such a leap of faith that you have to be a liar to think that's true.

Female Reporter: You literally say that they were too incapacitated to consent.

Roosh: Macho sex writing is not a court. It's not a piece of evidence that you can… Maybe some things I wanted to come across as an aggressive guy. Maybe I did. But just because there doesn't means that there is a victim out there and she suffered. Have I raped anyone? No.

Reporter: Is that fiction?

Roosh: No. It's not. My interpretation of it may be, but she's just taking quotes out of context anyway.

Reporter: You made a point that you have an office that overlooks a golf course. You made that clip about speed before is that true?

Roosh: Golf course?

Reporter: Yeah.

Roosh: I have no idea what you're talking about. Golf course?

Reporter: Yes, you have an office that overlooks a golf course.

Roosh: I don't remember ever saying that, man.

Reporter: You mentioned the immigrant agenda and the feminist agenda before. I'm trying to get a better idea of what your personal politics are.

Roosh: I would say that it's anti-globalists which the Daily Beast represents a globalist type of platform.

Reporter: What do you mean by globalist?

Roosh: Anything that benefits the current top 1000 men in the world in the US and Europe. You have a globalists and you have the nationalists. I would lean more towards a nationalist. Tradition, patriarchy, local solutions instead of globalization.

Reporter: So does that mean you're voting for?

Roosh: Donald Trump comes the closest to what I think is true.

Female Reporter: You express concern about your family after you were doxxed. Does that make you regret threatening to doxx reporters and protesters? Who…

Roosh: I never threatened that. I said I was going to make a list of the names and the social networking accounts. I never said I was going to share their address. That was another lie. Another lie is that I live with my mom. It's like you guys can't stop lying. A man can't visit his mom? I wished I lived with her! But no, that was a lie. See now, I don't think it's a good idea to say it but I live somewhere in Europe. So I'm just here for a short time and I happen to be here and the Daily Mail… I have to say though they had a lens that was far away I was like what's that over there and you see on the Internet it was right there so… There's people outside my dad's house now probably.

Female Reporter: You own that house then right?

Roosh: No, I don't own the house.

Female Reporter: It's registered in your name.

Roosh: Well, I don't know how.

Female Reporter: So it's not your house?

Roosh: It's not my house. Okay let me stop that and start again. So I don't want to stay here all night with you guys. I have other things that I have to do so were going to wrap this up at 8 o'clock. Cool?

Reporter: What else has happened these last couple of days? Did you get dozens of [bad audio]. Has your phone been ringing off the hook? Or your parents' phone?

Roosh: You know, I think from a security standpoint it's not smart to share that kind of stuff.

Reporter: Where do you office out of? Do you find yourself writing on the road?

Roosh: There's a golf course that is outside of my office… No.

(Laughter)

Roosh: I'm mobile, so um. Office out of, I never heard that kind of phrase before (laughs) but Starbucks? You know?

Reporter: Can you confirm that you did have to upgrade the DDOS protection on the website after the threats?

Roosh: We already had it because my servers were attacked last year. So we already had the systems in place but they were sending 20 million false requests every hour.

Reporter: Actually 20 million?

Roosh: Yeah, that's the actual number. This was on Tuesday. Monday and Tuesday. Once the Australian thing hit. Now I must say, when the Australia thing hit that was a lot of fun because those people were obsessed about me and I was telling them that I was to come in by boat. But then the shit kind of got real once it came here, you know? Having fun with them is good but when they announce your address and are advising people to go down that then it's no longer fun.

Reporter: Would you say that media misinterpretation is the best thing that ever happened to you?

Roosh: The best and the worst. I mean what's going to happen now? I'm going to be known, because of you, as a pro-rape advocate for the rest of my life until I die. Oh, that's the guy that believes that all women should be raped. But at the same time they're going to say that's the guy. They're going to know me. I could take a dump in a box right now and sell it because of you. So that's what you have done to me. You have made me such a famous guy. I was a guy with the blog, just a guy with a blog, and you have taken me from here to this based on a lie. Now, I'd rather you had not done that but it happened and that is life right? So you've got to deal with what actually happens.

Reporter: Would you consider donating some of that money to a rape crisis center?

Roosh: (laughs) I mean I think that the fact that the entire mainstream is trying to stop rape and assault against women I think they're doing fine. But if they want to donate money to me to help with the bodyguards that I have to hire right now then they are more than welcome to.

Reporter: How many bodyguards do you have around you right now?

Roosh: Unfortunately, I can't share that right now but you can count which guys back there are kind of large, you know?

Reporter: So what are the plans for the next couple of days?

Roosh: The next couple of days is really, probably, to get out of town since it is a little bit hot right now. It's not that I really think someone is going to come and stab me but it's not smart to stay in the city where everyone knows where I am at. So I will probably go up or down the East Coast.

Reporter: How often do you return for your mom's meatloaf?

Roosh: I come for the meatloaf once a year for like one month. And hey, you know, I like to stay with her. I wish I could stay more. I was trying to stay for a month but now, because of this, I had to say goodbye to her.

Reporter: Have you had any trouble traveling internationally yet and you expect it?

Roosh: No. I think England did not go ahead and say that I'm banned. I don't think Australia will let me in now.

Reporter: Do you plan on trying to go to Australia?

Roosh: I don't see why I would go there. Yep.

Female Reporter: What does your mom think about all this?

Roosh: My mom is angry. My mom is very angry.

Female Reporter: At you?

Roosh: Not at me. At you guys. She wants me to hit you guys back. Like you don't understand a Middle Eastern mom, they get angry. I'm having to calm her down because she wants to fight. I'm saying Mom you gotta simmer down now. But no, she said son I support you, do what you gotta do, this is a matter of your speech and as long as you're not doing anything illegal.

Reporter: What does she think of your treatment of women?

Roosh: Treatment of women? My mom doesn't know. My mom doesn't know how I make love to this girl or that girl. She knows who I am. She knows that whatever I write on the Internet and the monster that you have made me there that I have never hurt a woman. You would think by now, guys, that one girl would come forward and say "Yeah, Roosh did it, he raped me". One, you would think. Not one has come forward. Not one. Even though I have been known everywhere. So how do you explain that? Not one. It is weird how a lie can get to this point in time. So I'm not sure what the function of the media is because if you're just going to lie and when the public is really in threat like in Germany was. Women in Germany right now are in threat. You don't protect them but you come against me, what are you doing?

Reporter: The media cover that pretty extensively. I can email you a bunch of…

Roosh: After the outrage came. From day one? No.

Reporter: That is absolutely not true.

Reporter: Back to what Caitlin was saying earlier, do you at least agree that, legally speaking, the technical legal definition that a woman is too drunk to consent to sex and you have sex with her, that is legally defined as rape. Can you at least…

Roosh: How about the man? If the man is drunk, can he consent to rape?

Reporter: We can talk about that in a moment.

Roosh: No, no. It's the same thing.

Reporter: No, no, no, you're not answering the question.

Roosh: You're not going to tell me what is right and wrong.

Reporter: Okay, woman, man, whatever, that is a legal definition of rape. Do you disagree with the legal definition of rape?

Roosh: If a man is drunk and a woman has sex with him is it rape?

Reporter: Yes.

Female Reporter: It is not the legal definition of rape in many places though.

Reporter: In many places no…

Roosh: You're trying to redefine the definition of consensual sex so that every man is on the hook for rape. That is what you're trying to do. So no, I don't agree with you.

Reporter: Do you believe Bill Cosby is a rapist?

Roosh: I haven't seen all of the evidence but I think that it's weird that 20 years after…

Reporter: If any of these women came back and said "Oh, Roosh did whatever", here is somebody with a long history of…

Roosh: The evidence that I have seen is girls wanted to be with him and take drugs with him, and then 20 years after that say that he hurt them.

Reporter: So you don't agree that that is a legal definition of rape?

Roosh: I don't think that they are being honest.

Reporter: If they were?

Roosh: If they were, look man I'm not a lawyer. See this is where we are right now where the mainstream is so obsessed about rape. We don't even know what consensual sex is anymore. This is what we have done. So no you're coming after me for an article where, clearly, I didn't intend for people to think that I want all rape to be legal. So we've lost our minds. From now on about sex, the United States is just gone. We don't know what sex is anymore. We don't know what consensual sex is anymore and that's because of the work that you have done.

Reporter: How did this become your issue? We all have different issues we care about passionately, how did this become yours?

Roosh: It's not my issue. I've written over 3000 articles and maybe 10 of them were about rape.

Reporter: [bad audio]

Roosh: Because when I was in college I want to learn how to make love to every attractive girl that I saw. So I needed to learn which skills that I had to do. Is there anyone that I have not called on yet because I'm trying to think of who is kind of quite. Why are you guys here then?

Reporter: Martha Stewart over there.

(Laughter)

Female Reporter: Um, are you happy?

(Laughter)

Roosh: That's why we didn't call on her. I mean happiness is what? Am I happy that people have the wrong impression of who I am? No! But am I happy that I'm probably going to cash in on this as long as I can survive the next couple days? Hey, you gave it to me, you gave me a package and now I will run with it. You can't turn the clock back.

Reporter: How much have you made off of this in total?

Roosh: You know I have to get my accountant to really tally it. Has sales of books gone up? Yes. Has advertising sales gone up? Yes.

Reporter: What is your vision for the future for male-female relations?

Roosh: (laughs) Okay, well, what I've been trying to show on my website is that equality doesn't work. I mean it doesn't. If we have a divorce rate that is 50% or more, it doesn't work. I think we have to go back to the days where the man leads the household. I think that's the only way. But are we in the US? I don't think so. I think there's a couple of countries left where we can, maybe in Eastern Europe. The Muslim countries… You guys love Islam so I'm thinking that you guys would love… You guys give it a pass. They have a patriarchal system in the household. Do you get on them for that? In an Islamic marriage, there are some Muslim guys here, rape cannot happen during a marriage. Do you write about that? No.

Reporter: Yes.

Roosh: No you don't.

Reporter: Yeah we do. I'll send you a bunch of links on that.

Roosh: Please do, please do. And I'm going to read them carefully. But you guys give it a pass, you guys give Islam a pass for a patriarchal model that I write about but you come after me. Can we get something over here?

Female Reporter: She's just my photographer.

Roosh: (Sighs)

Female Reporter: I am mostly here just to listen. Everyone else has mostly covered all the questions that I would've asked so.

Roosh: Ask anything.

Female Reporter: Why did you pick this hotel?

Roosh: I used to actually come here on dates. I used to bring dates here. This was back in 2000s. This was a place where I used to bring a date. We would sit on a couch upstairs and I would make my smooth moves on them here. This was 2005, 2006.

Reporter: Just to clarify something earlier, you were saying that Donald Trump was the closest. Besides the anti-PC stuff, what do you like about his 2016 campaign?

Roosh: He hates you guys too.

Reporter: Besides that.

Roosh: That's enough for me. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Reporter: The media is not a political ideological position.

Roosh: Becoming anti-establishment is. You don't understand, half you will be out of a job within five years time.

Reporter: So you like that he is nationalist and anti-establishment.

Roosh: And the reason is you're not serving the needs of the public. You're not. The establishment sites are losing views and I'm sure a lot of you have not seen your salaries increase in the way that you wanted. It's because we don't believe in the mainstream anymore. In this case, what you did to me is now showing the world what you guys do and how you operate.

Reporter: I didn't do anything to you...

Female Reporter: Why did you end up canceling all the meetings? Because a lot of them weren't going to be protested right?

Roosh: A lot of them were. I would say at least half of them. This news made it to Russia.

Female Reporter: [bad audio]

Roosh: Who said they're not? You know, a mistake that I made was saying lets let these masculine, strong men organize, who hate the government, probably, and meet. That was kinda dumb. Because this could be a threat against us. So if we have to go underground, I'll go underground. We never had a goal where we had to do everything in public.

Reporter: If you and the people who follow your website closely are so strong, why do it in secret?

Roosh: Are you going to go to a meeting where the cops are on you?

Reporter: I have before.

Roosh: I don't like this guy. I mean he's just being argumentative.

Female Reporter: Was there supposed to be a public component at all to these meetings?

Roosh: No, it was just the most efficient way to organize people who like me and who like my site. Hey guys, just meet here at this time.

Female Reporter: They were not planning on doing anything there. They were just going to hang out, right?

Roosh: No, okay, I'm going to tell you. There were going to meet at that point and say where's the Pet Shop? It's right here. Okay, hey cool, what your name? Where are you from? There's a bar over here let's go for a drink. That was it! That was it and then the worldwide anger came.

Reporter: But again if they're strong, masculine, brave, why the subterfuge?

Roosh: Because you have angered a mob that wants to disrupt their meeting because you have gotten governments against them by lying about their intention. Now the world thinks that they're going to meet to rape people. So why are they going to meet now? Do you think it's smart to go and meet now? After that? You would go to a meeting where everyone is targeting you as a potential person who is going to rape. That's what you would do? Of course not! You don't seem like the type that would stand up to someone who is coming against you. I mean, do you lift? You don't lift.

Reporter: No, I don't.

Roosh: I do lift but I lost some weight. I'm just saying, like, this guy is saying go into the fire. Who is going to do that? That's absurd! This is where all these absurd ideas come from, from you guys. It doesn't make any sense! It doesn't make any sense. (sighs) So we got five more minutes.

Reporter: Do you feel that leaving town or having bodyguards takes away from your masculinity?

Roosh: No! If your life is in danger, no. If you want to stand up and fight and get into a confrontation, that's fine, but right now the heat is on my mom and dad so me leaving is going to take the heat away. So I am considering them in the actions that I do. Last summer I had two speeches in Montréal and Toronto and the same anger came. What did I do? I stood there. Why? Because my family was not in danger. They didn't post their address. For the record, I held the speeches even though the mayors came out against me but now it's not worth a public happy hour to go against the police, governors, mayors, and all that stuff and put the safety and privacy of the men who follow me… I can't toss them into that. I can toss myself into that. I can hire a bodyguard. I can go out right now and drink (which I will) but I'm not going to put them in danger. That would be like just looking out for me instead of the men who trust the things that I do.

Female Reporter: How many men would you say those are?

Roosh: It's hard to say, but based on the site traffic that I get for Return of Kings, I get one million uniques each month. Out of the hard-core people who really follow me it could be as high as 200,000.

Female Reporter: And how many of them were you expecting to go to these meetups around the world?

Roosh: There's no way to know because it was just show up. Okay, so we got time for one more.

Reporter: How many women have you been with?

Roosh: (sighs) A lot. I have been with a lot, but that's not relevant to the current matter at hand. But thank you. Thank you all for coming. I expect more lies in your articles that are going to come up but I just wanted to do this to show what the truth is. Okay? So have a good night.

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Blogger Phillip George February 08, 2016 5:26 AM  

I'm white male and Christian and heterosexual. There's a tautology in there.
So, yes, I'm hated.
And I "respect" Islamic death threats more than anyone I've ever met. Not only do they have the right to never integrate they have the right to no integrate a long long long way away from me.

Moral relativism, like the female reporter above, is killing people. Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Balkans, Syria, Turkey, Mindanao.........

Paris etc. And with the economics that follows it. If nothing else, consider your wallets

Anonymous Shorty February 08, 2016 5:44 AM  

Short of jamming pennies in the door jam and setting the room on fire, that couldn't have been a better press conference. This is canon-worthy.

Blogger Shimshon February 08, 2016 5:53 AM  

Which media organs attended? Why would they? Is he now so notorious that after attempting to destroy him they give him a platform?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore February 08, 2016 5:59 AM  

I almost didn't go to my meetup but two factors made me determined to go: 1) the formation of a lynch mob via the usage of lies which reminds me of what happened to Emmett Till, the Scottsboro Boys, and George Zimmerman; 2) The cancellation which was the removal of the ROK sanction. My initial sense to not go was based on the chores I usually do on Saturday as well as using that day for chilling and relaxing (chillaxing). However, once the lies started pouring in and once the lynch mobs formed off those lies started forming, I was determined. Chores and chillaxing be damned.

Five of us met at a train station. The original meetup location was changed out of a concern for safety. When I arrived at the train station's entrance I saw a dude sitting on a bench. A homeless dude came up and asked if I had a cigarette. I gave him one and we started chatting. We were both from NY and reminisced about Harlem. The conversation paused and I asked both men "Hey, any of you guys know where I can find a pet shop? I'd like to get a rottie". The dude on the bench said "It's right here". The other three showed up about ten minutes later. We introduced ourselves and headed to a small pub-like restaurant.

When we were walking to the pub, I mentioned to one of the guys that I almost didn't go but the outrage, which were essentially threats to frighten men from not going, changed my decision. He said "me too. If you tell me that I cannot do something then I am going to do it."

Anonymous Adam February 08, 2016 6:09 AM  

The media totally misrepresented Roosh. But that is par for the course, it's what they do. The tragic thing is that so many people believed it. They accept words as gospel. There is no point trying to change the media, they will never change. People need to take responsibility for how they process information. They need to be able to recognize propaganda.

Blogger Mint February 08, 2016 6:31 AM  

A man who stands by his principles and owns his words. Alpha to the core.

Anonymous Nxx February 08, 2016 6:33 AM  

Outstanding. He should write a book on media bitchslapping methodology. A working title could be Eat Shit And Die: Choking The Media With Their Own Lies

Blogger Stilicho February 08, 2016 6:42 AM  

So, can we expect the media and gov't's to organize mobs to attack anyone who attends John "I am a rapist" Scalzi's next fan meetup/book signing?

OpenID paworldandtimes February 08, 2016 6:46 AM  

Somebody is still parroting the Emmitt Till myth?

Anonymous 5343 February 08, 2016 7:06 AM  

People need to take responsibility for how they process information. They need to be able to recognize propaganda.

Agreed, but it's not just the media. Not by a long shot. Many processing this "news" knew Roosh is not a "pro rape activist" and that these gatherings were not "rape rallies". That designation is so over the top it's comical. But there are plenty of feminists and white knights who knowingly allowed the mischaracterizations to stand simply because they serve a larger purpose that they feel is more important than truth.

Anonymous wEz February 08, 2016 7:12 AM  

Lol. That was a good read to start off my day. Even after Roosh's long-winded lesson in common sense, I'm sure the only thing the media will come away with is this:
"Roosh says he's been with a lot of women, hence a lot of women have been raped by Roosh."

Blogger Mastender February 08, 2016 7:19 AM  

Played it 100% the right way. No contrition, no apology, call journalists out for the lying shitty scumbags they are and then thank them for making him more famous and rich, perfect. If Roosh wasn't the leader of a movement before he is now.

Blogger Fatherless February 08, 2016 7:30 AM  

Do you lift? Ah ha ha ha

I really like how he attacks their identity. You'll be out of jobs in five years if you keep lying.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 08, 2016 7:36 AM  

Well done by Roosh.

But it reminds me thank god for Trump, because the gimps of the GOP talk tough during the primaries and then rollover like beaten submissive dogs for the press, and that is freaking low. But what else can we expect, for example some South FLA Zionist oligarch trolled Grindr and comes up with Rubio, and there we are.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet February 08, 2016 7:54 AM  

Thanks for providing this, VD.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 08, 2016 7:58 AM  

Jim Jones had a tactic called "crazy nigger" where his black supporters would act crazy and intimidate Jones' target, the mostly white SJW have the equivalent in the tactic of "crazy white bitch" and the press will pay with its legitimacy, too bad.

Blogger Thomas Davidsmeier February 08, 2016 8:02 AM  

Further proof that Game works on everybody, not just pretty girls. Look at all the Game he used in there, and all the while making real, truthful points.

When I first heard about Game, I thought it was just more lies to trick people. Then, as I've watched more and more examples of it, I've come to realize that it is more like conversational or interpersonal relationship Kung Fu. It is like taking personal interactions into the realm of martial arts. Pressure points, attacks, counters, defenses. Your goals are different in every interaction, but the moves are the same and can be just as effective.

I seriously was expecting him to out and out hit on one of the female reporters right in the middle of the press conference. I bet he could have at least got a number based on some of those questions.

Blogger Chris Mallory February 08, 2016 8:05 AM  

There is no such thing as magic dirt. Roosh should be deported back to the land of his goat molesting ancestors.

Blogger Nigel McPhearson February 08, 2016 8:11 AM  

I was just over at AVFM watching them distance themselves from roosh. Endless "no true Scotsman". Talk about not knowing which way to direct fire. You'd think they have all the allies those spergs could ever want.

Blogger S1AL February 08, 2016 8:21 AM  

"There is no such thing as magic dirt. Roosh should be deported back to the land of his goat molesting ancestors."

Shut up, Frenchie.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 08, 2016 8:25 AM  

I find this entire thing fascinating & instructive. Who is Roosh? For that matter, who is Vox Day? Why do media organs' owners, publishers, editors and reporters develop apoplexy over individuals who hold no political office, own no media conglomerates, rule no country or run a vast corporate empire?

Why?

What is the purpose of whipping up literally worldwide mob over a tiny group of people who wield no power?

It's either the need for scapegoats/pinatas to enhance their dominant con game (Narrative) and/or they are so tyrannical that even the tiniest sliver of antagonism toward their self-serving beliefs merits a literal lynch mob.

How did we get to this place, where the Narrative is an 8 billion lb gorilla, (literally) backed by navies (the real ones with missiles and guns and bombs that blow people into red mist clouds), whose backers behave as Cargo Cult savages ready to literally eat their enemies regardless of how tiny and insignificant?

Individuals leading private lives (like Roosh, V.D., etc.) vs Nation-state rulers, billionaires commanding huge corporate structures and their Red Guard zombie-followers?

This is new meaning to David vs Goliath.

Anonymous Haxo Angmark February 08, 2016 8:29 AM  

Roosh: definitely a man for all seasons; even if he does spend too much time w his mom. Sweden still wants to arrest Assange 'cause he had consensual sex with an ex-CIA bim and didn't call back the next day. So R better deploy max situation awareness from now on...the Entitlement Groups - invasive orcs, faggots, and feminists, , a.k.a. SJW's, are getting more aggressive by the hour. Polarization increasing on all fronts, and eye like it!

Blogger dc.sunsets February 08, 2016 8:38 AM  

My point is, there is no longer any personal space in the world.

I read once about a visit to the USA by Russians working for Pravda before the dissolution of the USSR. They were taken on tours by US news media people and at one point (so the story goes) a Russian stopped his guide and asked, "How does your government do it?" The guide said he didn't understand, and the Russian explained, "Your news is even more controlled than is ours."

In a totalitarian country the government didn't care what people thought as long as they did what they were told. It was (and is) in the West, under "freedom," where rulers move Heaven and Earth to manage what citizens THINK. In our Western Corporatism, the pool of "rulers" subsumes both elected/appointed officials AND corporate executives & majority shareholders (including those who own media outlets.)

This Roosh "event" has revealed just how deep and pervasive is that thought-control effort. There has never been a time in history when so many people were under such near-absolute mind control by those who rule.

Seen this way, we live in astonishingly tyrannical times.

Anonymous Charlie Martel February 08, 2016 8:41 AM  

Just to point out that Roosh didn't invent the concept, Eric Corley of 2600 Magazine did. First Thursday of the month is Evil Hacker Day at a foot court near you.

(The one in Ottawa was just CSE recruiting / getting your name on a list, though. You have to watch for that, some white knight pre-rape cop might set up Roosh events to look for targets.)

Anonymous Shut up rabbit February 08, 2016 8:45 AM  

@21. dc.sunsets
The narrative is so paper thin, so anti-human the only way it can survive is if everyone believes it is omniscient, omnipresent and absolutely inescapable.

People like Vox show that there is another way to live, that you don't have to be an virtue siganlling, man-cuck like Scalzi to succeed.

That message must be destroyed at all costs.

Blogger Sheila4g February 08, 2016 8:52 AM  

I'm not a reader of Roosh but have been following the controversy. Excellently handled by him. Never back down; never apologize.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 08, 2016 8:57 AM  

Roosh is just visiting.

Blogger dlw February 08, 2016 8:58 AM  

His statement was fine. He let the reporters poll him off-topic in the Q&A session.

When you're in a hostile interview your best course is to stay on the topic you started with, which for him was the media's attack on him. Not "definition of rape", "Bill Cosby", golf courses, etc.

He gets a point for sliding in an "I don't care" though.

Blogger kmbr February 08, 2016 9:00 AM  

That was awesome.

Ofcourse, not one ounce of self awareness from the other side.

Blogger pdwalker February 08, 2016 9:04 AM  

I think he handled it really well.

It reminds me of that news conference that an American General gave where he introduced the world to the phrase, "stuck on stupid".

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 9:13 AM  

@Shimshon
Is he now so notorious that after attempting to destroy him they give him a platform?

Given the questions, it sounded more like the media showed up only because they expected him to bow, scrape, and grovel.

Anonymous Finn Woolersen February 08, 2016 9:21 AM  

Roosh is the kind of sleazy scumbag who bloviates bitchily that feminists have "penis envy." What noise. What I see is a small man, a weak, insecure man, not confident about himself, not confident about his own sexuality. How could he be? He is a child, almost! Sex is a game to him! People are playthings! Reward system! He thinks masculinity is defined by how many, and how skillfully a man can seduce sexually. There's another term for that, you know. The term is "rape culture." Sexualization of women is constant and unending and merciless and odious. If you do not see it, you are not quite awake. Women aren't tokens to be collected, points to be scored, cards to share. You don't become a man by having sex. Yet Roosh, like so many weak men out there, ultimately hate women, because they only know femininity as a socially crafted concept. Girls have cooties, etc.

Immaturity. That's the real issue here. Many so-called men are merely adult males, they aren't a Man in the sense of being successful, having mastery over oneself and one's body and one's mind and one's spirit, having knowledge and skills applying both to the mundane and the mechanical as to the mystical and metaphysical.

Blogger bob k. mando February 08, 2016 9:26 AM  

3. Shimshon February 08, 2016 5:53 AM
Which media organs attended? Why would they? Is he now so notorious that after attempting to destroy him they give him a platform?


"attending a press conference" is not even remotely the same thing as giving Roosh a "platform".

let me know about the thousand articles that proceed forth from Roosh's conference here.

hell, let me know when you find ten.

*WE* know about Roosh's conference because we were paying attention to him and Roosh's people recorded it.

Blogger Alexander February 08, 2016 9:29 AM  

@32

And yet, such a man does - by orders of magnitude- more to fight lies and anti-civilizational forces than you do.

The term is "rape culture."

Oh, never-mind. You *are* the lies and anti-civilizational forces. Rape culture isn't how many women you can get to consent to sex with you, it's inviting in rapists in by the hundred-thousands into Rotherham, Cologne, and Malmo.

Blogger bob k. mando February 08, 2016 9:30 AM  

32. Finn Woolersen February 08, 2016 9:21 AM
He thinks masculinity is defined by how many, and how skillfully a man can seduce sexually. There's another term for that, you know. The term is "rape culture."



"seduction" and "rape" are mutually exclusive terms you microcephalic imbecile.

or are you now going to mansplain to women how what they want in a man is actually 'rape'? after all, if that is so, perhaps women shouldn't be permitted to choose their own sexual partners?

Anonymous Quartermaster February 08, 2016 9:33 AM  

@35
You've now insulted all the microcephalic imbeciles of the world. Finn is so much less than that. I'd say what, but don't want to insult the viruses out there.

Blogger Dexter February 08, 2016 9:33 AM  

Reporter: The media is not a political ideological position.

Oh yes it is.

The media IS the Left -- the organized embodiment of evil (anti-truth, anti-virtue, anti-beauty) in the world.

Blogger Didact February 08, 2016 9:39 AM  

That. Was. EPIC.

Roosh did (almost) everything right. He never backed down. He never apologised. He went right after the reporters and their sense of identity as gatekeepers of Truth.

He was actually far more polite than he should have been- especially with the cuntish female reporters, who clearly need a severe lesson in manners and civility.

About the only place where I think he mis-stepped, even slightly, was in the bit about media misreporting of the Cologne Attacks earlier this year. Contrary to popular belief, the attacks were reported very soon after they happened. What he should have done (more) was pillory the media for refusing to point out that the attackers were Middle Eastern rapefugees.

But that was a very minor off note in a symphony of destruction that he unleashed on his critics.

It doesn't matter what you think of Roosh. It doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not. All that matters is whether you are willing to stand with him for freedom of speech and freedom of association. Choose a side- there is no neutral ground anymore.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 08, 2016 9:44 AM  

Roosh V and Milo have taken the lead in the Super Villain Olympics.

It may be time for the Supreme Dark Lord to up his game.

Blogger bob k. mando February 08, 2016 9:49 AM  

36. Quartermaster February 08, 2016 9:33 AM
You've now insulted all the microcephalic imbeciles of the world.



and yet, via the use of a multisyllabic lexicon, i've demonstrated great concern for the feewlwings of said microcephalic imbeciles.

cause if i had said 'retard' Sarah Palin might get mad at me.

shut up, Sarah.

Blogger CarpeOro February 08, 2016 9:52 AM  

@32 Not sure your tall enough for this ride. Not understanding the difference between satire and actual events that came up in the transcript (you do understand he was writing satire and was called out, while what the media trying to grill him refused to write about was reality correct?). Oh, lest I forget, the train is fine.

Blogger VD February 08, 2016 9:54 AM  

It may be time for the Supreme Dark Lord to up his game.

(smiles) It may be. It may be....

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 February 08, 2016 10:00 AM  

It was a very smart move for Roosh to record the press conference and post the raw footage on YouTube as well.

Because I'm pretty sure the articles which are written after this will involve calling him a whiner and a pervert.

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 10:05 AM  

@Didact
Contrary to popular belief, the attacks were reported very soon after they happened. What he should have done (more) was pillory the media for refusing to point out that the attackers were Middle Eastern rapefugees.

Someone attempted to correct me on that front as well in the comment section of the Washington Times' reporting of the press release. I simply responded that it wasn't hiding as in never reporting on it, but instead hiding as in not doing due diligence on it, trying to quickly put it out of memory while focusing on someone or something else relatively inconsequential.

Negligence, really.

OpenID paworldandtimes February 08, 2016 10:12 AM  

I simply responded that it wasn't hiding as in never reporting on it, but instead ...

The media's censorship m.o. is also a willful ignorance on connecting disparate incidents into a pattern with policy implications. Example: every Black-on-White murder is trivialized as "random" or "robbery gone wrong."

PA

Blogger Lovekraft February 08, 2016 10:13 AM  

re Roosh:

being able to observe him and other alt-righters like Vox at work is something men have been waiting for for a long time. It is history in motion so to speak, unlike the manufactured, glossy MSM b.s.

There is a massive shifting away from U.S./European hegemony and the voices like Roosh and Vox are crucial in making sure the war-pushers aren't able to get away with scapegoating so easily.

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 10:15 AM  

@paworldandtimes

The media's censorship m.o. is also a willful ignorance on connecting disparate incidents into a pattern with policy implications.

I'd say it's also them knowing what the Streisand Effect is, and doing their best to avoid it.

Blogger slarrow February 08, 2016 10:17 AM  

@32, SJW Law #3. They always, always project.

Anonymous VFM7359 February 08, 2016 10:21 AM  

Some OC for Roosh.

https://twitter.com/hfxdonair7359/status/696715124304932864

Blogger Durandel Almiras February 08, 2016 10:28 AM  

I've been sharing while episode this with friends and students, focusing on the lying, biased journalists who care only about spinning the narrative and not the truth. Teenagers and college kids can smell hypocrisy more so than most, and the reactions have been great. Just keep converting them to distrust media and soon academia. It's just a short hop from there to distrusting the whole establishment.

They think this was a victory. We can use this to gain far more ground than we could have by our own efforts.

Anonymous Eric the Red February 08, 2016 10:39 AM  

@32...
Leftists like Finn move the goalposts every time. Their brand name should be "semantic games R us". When called out as being liars for a particular accusation, they double-down by attempting to shift focus to something else via logical fallacies like overgeneralization. Their tiny little minds are so hardwired for equality that they are no longer able to make useful distinctions about the real world. Everything gets conflated into one big blurry feelzbad/feelzgud.

That and the sanctimonious "what makes a real man" virtue signalling are a real hoot. He and his sister useful idiots will never understand that virtue involves courageous acts, not just spouting off about your lofty pristine ideals.

Blogger John Wright February 08, 2016 10:46 AM  

Reporter: So you don't agree that that is a legal definition of rape?

Roosh: I don't think that they are being honest.

Reporter: If they were?

Roosh: If they were, look man I'm not a lawyer.


I am a lawyer. Having sex with a drunk woman is not rape. Blackstone defines rape as "carnal knowledge of a woman forcibly and against her will" (p. 210)

In some cases, sex with an unconscious woman is rape, if the surrounding circumstances show it to be with force and against her will.

The reporters are liars. Notice that they are arguing with him, not asking him questions.

Notice that none of them asked the basic questions of who, what, when, where and why to explain what the event was that happened. Not one.

The Jihad is not the enemy. They only have power because the Democrat party aids and abets and sustains them. The Democrat party is not the enemy. They only have power because a majority of the American people are addicted to foolishness. The American people are not the enemy. They are addicted to folly only because a pusher has addicted them.

That pusher is the media. They are the enemy.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 08, 2016 10:46 AM  

(smiles) It may be. It may be....

I just read that you called Roosh, and that the presser was your idea.

Nicely done. Great to see allies supporting each other, even super villains.

There is indeed a Super Villain Code of Honor.

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 10:48 AM  

There is no such thing as magic dirt. Roosh should be deported back to the land of his goat molesting ancestors.

Thread winner

Blogger John Wright February 08, 2016 10:51 AM  

"So we've lost our minds. From now on about sex, the United States is just gone. We don't know what sex is anymore. We don't know what consensual sex is anymore and that's because of the work that you have done."

Amen.

Anonymous BGKB February 08, 2016 10:51 AM  

There's another term for that, you know. The term is "rape culture."

Really what do you call 126 women gang raped on NYE in Cologne with media trying to hid it?

You've now insulted all the microcephalic imbeciles of the world...don't want to insult the viruses

Zika lives matter.

Contrary to popular belief, the attacks were reported very soon after they happened.

It wouldn't have been reported if not for the internet bypassing gatekeepers. Maybe compared to how long it took for the Mike Brown liquor store robbery vid to be noticed by lamestream after real news showed the unedited version for a week. There was a 10yo boy raped by a moslem in a public pool that lamestream suppressed for over 4 months.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/05/ten-year-old-boy-brutally-raped-by-iraqi-migrant-at-pool-in-vienna/

The cops in Rotherham UK admitted they ignored 1400+ indigenous little white girls raped by 3rd world moslems because they were afraid of being called racist. They even arrested dads for the hate crime of trying to stop moslems from raping.

Example: every Black-on-White murder is trivialized as "random" or "robbery gone wrong."

I talked to a gay reporter that wouldn't even accept Chris Lane's killer's twitter as proof he was targeted for being white.

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 10:52 AM  

JCW, have you read the great Patrick Deneen's essays on the sexual revolution and college campuses?

Anonymous BGKB February 08, 2016 10:53 AM  

If only they would limit Jihadi John's movements as much as Roosh's.

Blogger Blaster February 08, 2016 10:53 AM  

Roosh: Can you read? I mean can you guys go. No, look guys, you want me to break it down. Read it!

Reporter: I mean how it got twisted by the media.

Roosh: The media said that the article said that this man wants to legalize rape. That was a lie.

Reporter: Okay, what part of your satirical argument that you're making can you maybe understand that they took and turned it into that lie?


Was this bait? I found it frustrating from a dialectic perspective since the ideal answer is that Roosh explains the satire of his article, that the thought experiment was to imagine how people's behavior would change if rape were legal. But it seems likely they were just fishing for another quote of him saying "rape" and "legal" in the same sentence so they could go and write more dishonest lying articles.

There's also the fact that it's usually not reasonable to expect someone to be able to explain, verbally, on demand, precisely what a particular passage is supposed to mean in context to someone who is not willing to read the source.

Blogger praetorian February 08, 2016 11:00 AM  

Immaturity. That's the real issue here.

Definitely. The issue isn't a lying media willing to ignore actual, declared rapists streaming into western countries and attack a guy trying to help other guys get laid, all in The Name of the Narrative.

Immaturity is not the real issue, brah. It's not even on the list right now.

Blogger GracieLou February 08, 2016 11:08 AM  

Hell hath no fury like fat-chicks scorned.

Blogger FP February 08, 2016 11:18 AM  

Oh the hilarity of it all. Do you lift?

"Female Reporter: Why did you pick this hotel?"

Pertinent questions from the vaunted fourth estate.

Roosh should've been coy and just said "sentimental reasons" with a wink.

Anonymous Eric the Red February 08, 2016 11:23 AM  

"That pusher is the media. They are the enemy."

Exactly. And like all enemies, they will meet their fate.

Anonymous Alexander February 08, 2016 11:27 AM  

@63

We'll know the happy day has come when the media, without a trace of shame or irony, starts paraphrasing Niemoller's 'First they came...' with regards to themselves.

Anonymous Philalethes February 08, 2016 11:34 AM  

@18 Chris Mallory

There is no such thing as magic dirt. Roosh should be deported back to the land of his goat molesting ancestors.

This is a joke, yes? If so, in poor taste. No, no magic dirt, but there are people, even from benighted POC nations, who are capable of understanding – and caring about – what made Western Civilization great. And I see no reason they shouldn't be welcome to join, since there will never be more than a few of them.

Anyway, if you mean Roosh is an Ayrab, not so: His paternal ancestors were Persians, who founded one of the great empires of the ancient world (Daryush is the original name which was eventually Latinized as Darius, as in Darius the Great), while his maternal ancestors were Armenian. Both tribes speak members of the Indo-European language family, of which English, Russian and Sanskrit are also members.

The Persians have been badly messed over by Islam, but retain considerable pride in their own culture and history – and are no friends of the Arabs. And Iran – cognate to 'Aryan' – would probably be a much different country if the CIA hadn't quashed their nascent democracy in 1953. As Ron Paul succinctly put it in 2008: "They're over here because we're over there." QED. MYOB and they're much more likely to mind theirs.

Armenia was the first country to become officially Christian (301 AD), and is the easternmost outpost of European civilization. (I don't know what religion he was raised in, though certainly it couldn't have been both; likely neither to any serious extent.)

Anyway, Roosh, despite his exotic name, is much more of an American than any of the media shills in that room.

Anonymous Padawan February 08, 2016 11:34 AM  

Do Tell, wise Jedi Master.

Anonymous Conrad Stonebanks February 08, 2016 11:39 AM  

My God, these "journalists" are idiots. These are the kind of people who graduate with honors, masters, and PhDs from today's universities, yet the simple task of reading is too much for them.

Blogger Jon M February 08, 2016 11:47 AM  

I like the New Narrative we are seeing in the aftermath of the media beatdown.

Pre-beatdown: Evil blogger, master manipulator, and author plans mass world-wide rape-a-thon. Everyone should be terrified!

Post-beatdown: Roosh is a pathetic loser who tricked us all into lying about him.

I just love it when SJW's attack the level of competence of people who get the better of them. You think it makes you look better to have been bested by an idiot?

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 08, 2016 11:58 AM  

You would think by now, guys, that one girl would come forward and say "Yeah, Roosh did it, he raped me". One, you would think. Not one has come forward. Not one. Even though I have been known everywhere. So how do you explain that? Not one. It is weird how a lie can get to this point in time.

This is brave. He's practically daring girls to come forward. And in this "fake rape" era, they just might still.

Blogger Escoffier February 08, 2016 11:59 AM  

#21 DC Sunsets...

Because truth burns the liar!

Blogger Escoffier February 08, 2016 12:03 PM  

#37 Dexter...

That was the line that leapt off the page to m as well. Talk about "the fish says 'what water?'"

Blogger Nate February 08, 2016 12:05 PM  

"This is a joke, yes? "

No. Chris generally thinks everyone who's family wasn't here in like 1805 needs to be deported.

Chris correct me if I've gotten the date wrong I honestly can't remember.

Anonymous Dave February 08, 2016 12:11 PM  

So if everyone should believe Roosh is not a rapist, or supports legalized rape, does this mean we have to stop calling Scalzi McRapey? Maybe no one else sees it, but the reaction by the alt-right to this latest Roosh dust up seems hypocritical. We have no problem calling out people like McRapey and Rape Rape we should expect the same in response.

Blogger Salt February 08, 2016 12:16 PM  

It's hilarious.

Mike Cernovich ‏@Cernovich

Roosh's choice for president is now a matter of international interest. Great to see how far he has come! http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/06/pro-rape-leader-endorses-donald-trump.html …


"‘Pro-Rape’ Leader Endorses Donald Trump"

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 12:17 PM  

And I see no reason they shouldn't be welcome to join, since there will never be more than a few of them.

Entryism

Blogger Escoffier February 08, 2016 12:22 PM  

#73 Dave

No, it isn't. Now why don't you apply your massive intellect and see if you can figure out the difference. (hint: it's the hypocrisy)

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 12:23 PM  


"‘Pro-Rape’ Leader Endorses Donald Trump"


Make Rape Great Again!

Blogger LP999 S.I.G. Burnin' Up Gold, Cooling Under Snow February 08, 2016 12:24 PM  

Roosh and to our 'others' but to only Roosh -

Roosh,you've done NO harm, we know it! This is another badge of your innocence and LP supports you.

Where has Roosh hurt anyone? He's done no wrong, this witch hunt is an abomination and its disgusting to go after Roosh - my peer, a man of our generation.

I stand for our men, I stand against feminism and I remain with my Lord.

Semi OT:!!!!

Talk about never reading Dante! Maddy Albright says there is a special place in hell for women who won't back other women - Boomboomer, you atheist, Hillary, her camp, whomever and whatever have no right invoking faith, God, heaven or hell into politics when you certain women hate God. Cobweb legged broads hate men. This is not about Bernie, its about the Lord whom overrides all the silly talk from Hillary, Maddy Albright, etc.,

Anonymous Philalethes February 08, 2016 12:26 PM  

@32 Finn Woolersen

Is this a joke, or are you just an idiot?

Anyway, for the record, feminists do indeed have "penis envy." Freud may not be God, but he certainly got that one right. Everything in feminism can be traced back to that psychological complex. They envy men because they don't respect themselves as women. Women who know who they are, and are truly self-actualized as women, have no desire to emulate men or usurp men's place. And they command respect from men without having to make a fuss about it.

Sexualization of women is constant and unending and merciless and odious.

Actually, I'll agree with that. But who "sexualizes" women? I'm old enough (exactly twice Roosh's age, in fact) to remember when women dressed and behaved with decorum. Certainly they no longer do. Why'd that change? Were women somehow "forced" to whore themselves en masse? No, they just did it instinctively, once the former restraints of civilized life were lifted.

Human sexual signals are almost entirely visual (as opposed to e.g. olfactory in many other mammals); if they were auditory, you'd be unable to hear yourself think in America nowadays. I for one do find the constant, unending, in-your-face sexual advertisement "odious". It's a rank musk that overlays everything in modern Western culture. But they're doing it on their own.

In Homo sap, as in all sexual species, it is females who make The Rules. Males can only respond; naturally, those who are most skillful are most successful.

Freud also asked a famous question: "What do women want?" And the answer, for anybody who takes the trouble to look, is clear: What we have is what women want, as it is what they have used their power to create.

It's become starkly clear that the female libido, unrestrained, will be the destruction of civilized life. Truly, women do not know what is best for them.

Anonymous Philalethes February 08, 2016 12:29 PM  

@32

Many so-called men are merely adult males, they aren't a Man in the sense of being successful, having mastery over oneself and one's body and one's mind and one's spirit, having knowledge and skills applying both to the mundane and the mechanical as to the mystical and metaphysical.

Yes, true. And because somewhere back there our ancestors (not just the reviled "boomers"; we did not inherit a perfect world) dropped a bunch of balls, we're having to learn all these things with little or no help or guidance from what would once have been a cultural system of education. Having to figure out how to raise ourselves to adulthood – much later in life than would be the norm in a healthy culture (if there were such a thing). Mistakes will be made, but I believe Roosh is sincere in the effort, and is doing pretty well, all things considered. He held his ground admirably in that "press conference".

As a young man, Roosh clearly felt the same overwhelming motivation that (nearly) all young men feel: to get as much tail as possible. We have, after all, been mercilessly evolutionarily selected for that trait for some 1.5 billion years. Roosh is a smart fellow, and had the luck to get in on the beginning of a revolution in male consciousness, a revival of knowledge that was once far more widespread: How to make The Rules (see above) work for you. Women have been subliminally manipulating men from time immemorial; I see now reason men should not learn how to manipulate back. If you're going to step into the arena, you'd better know how to fight; otherwise you'll simply be crushed.

Recently, I note, Roosh seems to be outgrowing the stage of youthful sexual obsession, and beginning to think about what masculinity really is in a mature sense, and how to foster same in himself, and encourage it in others. Been wondering the same myself, since I was about his age; more power to him, I say.

And, as he pointed out, whether or not you consider his "notch count" excessive, not one of his "amours" has ever complained. As someone noted above, I'll bet he could have gotten a phone number or two right in that room, had he cared to take the trouble.

Women don't know what they want. But you can, if you watch what they do.

Blogger Dan Horton February 08, 2016 12:32 PM  

It's even better if you compare it to how Wil Wheaton apologized on and on after a negative response to one of his tweets last week:

https://medium.com/@wilw/i-wasn-t-defending-crappy-behavior-but-i-understand-why-it-seemed-that-way-8a6aeb8e01e#.13pzq44eo

Blogger Sevron February 08, 2016 12:32 PM  

I wish I could express my love for this comment in more than just text.

Anonymous Jack Amok February 08, 2016 12:38 PM  

Sexualization of women is constant and unending and merciless and odious.

Indeed, it is, but look at who you blame for it. You blame the pickup artists, but Roosh and Roissy et al don't publish the fashion magazines, don't produce the TV shows, don't write the Cosmo articles...

Roosh is actually the guy saying "Hey, maybe women shouldn't get blind drunk wearing short skirts and high heels", but you want to blame him for women being sexualized instead of the people who organize Slut Walks.

Leftists want women to be sexualized, they just don't like it when the inevitable consequences (rape being just one consequence) happen. So when a guy like Roosh points out the consequences of overt public sexualization of women, you shout him down for pointing out the costs of your own agenda.

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 12:41 PM  

I wish I could express my love for this comment in more than just text.

I accept tribute

Anonymous ha February 08, 2016 12:44 PM  

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/thirsty-roosh-calls-a-press-conference-to-spank-the-press-for-writing-about-him

Anonymous Philalethes February 08, 2016 12:45 PM  

Both tribes speak members of the Indo-European language family, of which English, Russian and Sanskrit are also members.

P.S.: Meaning that Armenians and Persians are actually more closely related to "us" (Europeans) than was, e.g., Yeshua bar Yosef.

No. Chris generally thinks everyone who's family wasn't here in like 1805 needs to be deported.

Well, my family's been here since the 1660s; my 4x great-grandfather endured the winter at Valley Forge, etc. etc. Perhaps Chris needs to be deported?

@76 Josh

And I see no reason they shouldn't be welcome to join, since there will never be more than a few of them.

Entryism

Only if their intent is to subvert, rather than join. As I said, there will never be more than a few, and a small number can be absorbed. To judge all solely on the basis of skin color is racism.

Anonymous runrooshrun February 08, 2016 12:46 PM  

https://daryushvalizadeh.wordpress.com/

Anonymous WEEEEEEE February 08, 2016 12:47 PM  

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/thirsty-roosh-calls-a-press-conference-to-spank-the-press-for-writing-about-him

yep, and roosh got SPANKED!

Anonymous true February 08, 2016 12:50 PM  

will the sheep followers request a refund now that their leader has been outed as a loser? or are they too stupid? or weak?

Anonymous ted February 08, 2016 12:51 PM  

enough fun for now, catch up with you losers later--gotta go out in the real world. With real women. You boys should try it sometime! bye for now!

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 1:05 PM  

Six comments in a row, and leaves after five minutes when no one bit, declaring victory.

I sometimes wish our enemies weren't so patently stupid.

Anonymous Headcannon February 08, 2016 1:07 PM  

@18

The train is fine.

Anonymous Susan February 08, 2016 1:10 PM  

@84, Jack Amok

What you are talking about essentially here is the successful brainwashing of the Left regarding personal responsibility and how to avoid it at all costs. This has been going on for decades since MLK died and Sharpton and Jackson took over his pulpit.

Refusal to take responsibility for one's own behavior and the consequences involved has been a toxic infection since the days of LBJ and Roe v Wade.

So when Vox and others here now talk about the law treating women like children, I have to strongly agree with them. Not only women though, but the minority community now as well.

Anonymous Alexander February 08, 2016 1:17 PM  

@86

there will never be more than a few, and a small number can be absorbed. To judge all solely on the basis of skin color is racism.

They told us that in 1965. And even *if* one was 'basing solely on the color of skin. and even *if* such a thing was racist... zero fucks given.

Roosh went out and spoke truth to power, good for him. Frankly, it shames me, that a Persian womanizer is observably doing more to defend western civilization by standing up to its most tireless enemies, than I am. It's a strong motivation.

But nix on the idea that 'Armenians and Iranians and now we're throwing indians (dot) into the pot are just like us. No, they observably are not. They have cultures and existing homelands and that should be good enough. If they want to be on friendly terms with us, in part or in sum because of our shared ancestry, fine. But England for the English, Poland for the Polish, France for the French... not Europe for anyone whose tongue can be traced back to a common ancestor a few thousand years ago.

Anonymous Kevin February 08, 2016 1:21 PM  

It is very hard to speak extemporaneously when under fire, so I give Roosh credit despite the general awfulness of his presentation. Practice will make him better and less stream of conscience gibberish, less paranoid crazy talk. Kudos for holding firm and being willing to maintain a standard that rational non-children can think clearly about issues. That alone saved the presentation.

However, the press conference mostly highlights how bizarre the media are in pursuing angles, how immune to common sense. Are you less masculine when not having meet ups? Are soldiers less masculine when they duck as bullets fly? The question is either coming from a worldview so alien to mine as to hardly be human, or is simply designed to set agenda and humiliate. The second is clearly the most likely. The questions were far and away more interesting than the answers.

Anonymous Dedicating Ruckus February 08, 2016 1:23 PM  

@94

It's correct that we shouldn't allow mass immigration and cultural displacement by Armenians or Persians, any more than we should by Arabs or Africans. But we don't seem to currently have a problem with the former (unless I've been missing it), and Roosh does not constitute mass immigration and cultural displacement anyway. Focus on the significant problems we actually have, not "WE MUST DISASSOCIATE FROM THIS PARTICULAR GUY BECAUSE HE'S BROWN".

Blogger Dexter February 08, 2016 1:26 PM  

@Dedicating,

Not All Goat Rapers Are Like That?

Blogger Alexander February 08, 2016 1:27 PM  

@96

Well, for the former, there's the Kardashians...

But I'm not. I defend Roosh. As I said, the guy is observably doing more to defend western civilization by orders of magnitude then 99% of actual westerners, including those who are aware there is a serious problem and profess to want to fight back. Including myself. I am not disassociating.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner February 08, 2016 1:29 PM  

Teddy gotta go out in the real world. With real women. You boys should

This is awkward he is coming over to my place.

"‘Pro-Rape’ Leader Endorses Donald Trump" Make Rape Great Again!

"I will build a great big wall to keep all of the post wall feminists out"

got humiliated That was Cam Newton, Roosh has lighter skin.

there will never be more than a few, and a small number can be absorbed. To judge all solely on the basis of skin color is racism.

Armenians are the Christians that moslems genocided in Turkey. I have seen a blond guy with an Armenian grandfather.

Blogger CarpeOro February 08, 2016 1:44 PM  

This is really bringing out those with the reading-comprehension level of a (present day) 13 year old isn't it?

The obvious 13 year old (WEEEEEEEE) post a link that he thinks demolishes Roosh. The article shows yet another 13 year old describing all of the accusations of residency and missing the point (no discussion of the content of what Roosh actually said). Oh yeah, Roosh was pwned. Not. Even the kids with a 15 year old (present day) reading comprehension are likely to wonder why. Conclusion: SJWAL.

Blogger David Adams February 08, 2016 1:49 PM  

@78

This Roosh Guy does seem immature. Just look at the way he talks.

"We would sit on a couch upstairs and I would make my smooth moves on them here."

If you overheard a teen talking like that then this is one thing but from a guy of his age.


Furthermore, casual sex with lots of different partners is part of the counter culture and not something that Christians should look up to.

Good talk from Dr Craig.


http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-hooking-up-sub-culture

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 1:54 PM  

@David Adams

You're right, we should focus on seeming mature, and not what is truth.

You're right again when you say that casual sex with different partners is part of the counter culture. Obviously this style of living has never been constantly celebrated by mainstream pop culture and the world.

Why, Christians should certainly be cautious of the counter culture and cling to the main culture, that is the world! I'm sure that's in the Bible somewhere. Two Corinthians or something like that, probably.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean February 08, 2016 2:08 PM  

The questions were indeed interesting. They basically asked Roosh to prove he wasn't a rapist.

Similar to the old: when did you stop beating your wife?

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 2:33 PM  

To judge all solely on the basis of skin color is racism.

OH NOES!!!

Anonymous Dave February 08, 2016 2:45 PM  

I just went back and read Roosh's "modest proposal". He suggests a law that any woman, by entering a man's place of residence, legally consents to have sex with him.

That might work if women could make rational decisions about sex. But they can't; as Jim Donald pointed out, a thirty-year-old woman is only marginally more capable of consent than a nine-year-old girl. To the question of "Is it OK to have sex with this woman?", the correct answer is "Ask her father."

Blogger BunE22 February 08, 2016 2:47 PM  

Reporter: What else has happened these last couple of days? Did you get dozens of [bad audio]. Has your phone been ringing off the hook? Or your parents' phone?

The [bad audio] was "pizzas."

I was so glad to hear him put the reporters in their place, he did a great job.

Blogger Gaiseric February 08, 2016 3:14 PM  

The press conference should be covered by Milo on Breitbart. Nobody else in the media is going to cover it, since they clearly didn't get what they were hoping for when they came.

Blogger justaguy February 08, 2016 3:15 PM  

Rosh, although imho is a very flawed man, he has done a great service in bringing out how thoroughly the SJWs have taken over much of society and are able to enforce their norms through shame and non-legal means. Their ability to quickly organize and threaten to "out" the men who dare to meet for any purpose other than to show their abject submission to women and their desires shows how far western civilization has decayed. That large numbers of men were quickly and easily cowed because they deduced that their outing would likely cause long-term problems with employment by private companies who wholly follow today’s matriarchal supremacy is telling. VD’s advice to be anti-fragile and strategic is telling. This is just one of many fights we have to maintain civilization as we know it. I believe VD has writtenthat the fight is already lost in main, but that local victories and reverses are possible.

Blogger J Van Stry February 08, 2016 3:29 PM  

That was a great news conference, and obviously Vox gave him excellent advice.

I have seen several people spreading the 'Roosh is a rape supporter' lie and having read the article, I was rather annoyed that so many people were buying into the lie, when everyone knows our Media is no longer capable of reporting facts, much less truth.

This was well done and I hope Roosh makes millions off of this attempt to silence him (and I don't even read his website!) I am just so sick and tired of the PC bullshit.

Blogger BunE22 February 08, 2016 4:40 PM  

@4 Al from Bay Shore

Howdy neighbor. Hubby used to own a business in Bay Shore. You went to the meet, good for you.

@32 He looked pretty confident to me.

@59 Reporter: Okay, what part of your satirical argument that you're making can you maybe understand that they took and turned it into that lie?

Was this bait?

I would have countered with, "What part of satire do you not understand?"

@63 "That pusher is the media. They are the enemy."

Exactly. And like all enemies, they will meet their fate.

The media is the tool. While they are an enemy they are not The Enemy. The true enemy is the media bosses and their shadow partners.

@78 Maddy Albright says there is a special place in hell for women who won't back other women

You know you're campaign might be in trouble if you have to dust off embalmed Albright zombie for support.

@79 Freud is a fraud. Many people today put little stock in his blather. He was messed up, as are most of the people attracted to the field. I agree with your view of women sexualizing themselves. An ex-SIL used to claim that my BIL bought her clothing that she didn't want to wear because it was too sexy. I don't know how his taste could have been worse than hers based on how she inappropriately dressed herself.

If, according to feminist views, men sleeping around is collecting tokens, what is women sleeping around, love?

A few years ago I had a convo with my daughter that relates to Roosh's article. She defended the position that men have no right to touch a woman if she didn't want it, and other rape garbage. I told her responsibility begins with her. That pissed her off.

I said in a perfect world you could walk down the street naked without anything happening. But reality is that we don't live in a perfect world. Laws don't stop rape, your rights won't protect you. It's up to you to not put yourself in a vulnerable position. Yes, something bad can still happen, but the odds are lower than not protecting yourself.

When I was young I carried a 4" switchblade in my pocket with my hand on when I walked alone. Today they carry a rape whistle. My philosophy has always been hope for the best but prepare for the worst, and better safe than sorry. The progs have done a grave disservice to our young women.

Anonymous Kevin February 08, 2016 4:47 PM  

One thing that is interesting is reading the accounts from other websites, like Reason (its very long). The comments generally agree 1000% that Roosh is a loser. I tend to agree he is a loser, the desire to have lots of casual sex is normal, the acting on it is for the weak and depraved. But I think he represents (or more recently has tried to represent) a useful message about tradition and certainly how sex has gone crazy in the US.

For most people Roosh cannot be any kind of standard bearer because he is too immature and freakish. The reception of his ideas in the comments other places I would expect a more fair hearing are completely submerged to his personality. Its easy to see when you read about GamerGate or Roosh that much of what I view as commonsense is never never going to catch on with 98% of the population.

Oh and the Wil Wheaton link was unbearable. The patheticness of it, the prostration. Humiliating in every way. And the comments, they were worse.

Blogger Feather Blade February 08, 2016 4:50 PM  

It would have been nice to see the reporters follow up on the "submission" questions, i.e. What are the limits of women's submission to men? Is he saying that all women should submit to all men, any woman should submit to any man, etc.

...But since those are questions that are only meaningful to Christians, I guess it's too much to ask of them.

Anonymous GracieLou February 08, 2016 5:31 PM  

"...any woman, by entering a man's place of residence, legally consents to have sex with him." As extreme as this sounds to many people now, it used to be common sense. A woman hanging out alone with a man, in his private space, was encouraging certain things. The man understood it and so did the woman.

There used to be morality laws. It was a crime in many places for a woman to sit at a bar. My chronically late husband often asks me to meet him at a place where our friend tends bar. I say, call me when you get there. I'm a married woman, I don't hang out alone at bars. Why be encouraging? And it IS encouraging.

Agree that this deliberate attempt at disorientation is coming from people who want to infantilize women at the expense of men. And as Roosh said, "Put every man on the hook for rape." Putting men on the hook is the goal, not protecting women. It doesn't do a damn thing for actual victims of violence, quite the contrary.

Blogger Lucas Temple (a.k.a. Armenia4ever) February 08, 2016 5:36 PM  

Us "goat fuckers" of Armenian descent have suffered far more for the cause of Christendom then almost anyone else.

Just like to point that out.

Blogger tublecane February 08, 2016 5:40 PM  

@23-I don't know when the trip you describe took place, but enough witnesses to Soviet totalitarianism testify to the opposite, i.e. that they lived in the Oceania of "1984." That was published in 1949, and I imagine sometime between that and the '91 the authorities stopped caring. They had won, they had the power for 70 years, and they killed, cajoled, frightened, enslaved and merely persuaded enough people into submission by then. No need to constantly rub it in. The U.S., meanwhile, still had and has extra- and anti-political culture to deal with. Nobody yet has shot all our priests.

Never forget the the communists invented "political correctness." The goal of SJWs, whether they know it or not, is to arrive at the granite faced, immovable, perpetually boring Brezhnevian state. Once you arrive there you don't have to control everything anymore. And l, in fact, the Soviets were never totalitarian, really. Lenin gave up with the NEP rather early, and they kicked out Trotsky with his permanent revolution. There's more than one way to cow the people. We allow ridiculous amounts of freedom in certain areas, and were Machiavellian geniuses behind it they'd know you have to slacken ropes for people to hang themselves.

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 5:47 PM  

@Feather Blade
It would have been nice to see the reporters follow up on the "submission" questions, i.e. What are the limits of women's submission to men? Is he saying that all women should submit to all men, any woman should submit to any man, etc.

Not really, because that has nothing to do with if he advocates rape or not. Hell, a lot of the questions had nothing to do with determining the truth, and rather had to do with getting a good sound bite.

@Kevin
I tend to agree he is a loser, the desire to have lots of casual sex is normal, the acting on it is for the weak and depraved.

By what metric? It's immoral by a Christian viewpoint, but that viewpoint is at odds with the world. As a worldly man he would be considered a victor, not a loser.

And even then, it's way easier for a woman to sleep around than it is for a man. A man doesn't "magically" have women falling all over for him unless he's a celebrity, and Roosh certainly didn't have that going for him.

Blogger Josh February 08, 2016 5:47 PM  

Us "goat fuckers" of Armenian descent have suffered far more for the cause of Christendom then almost anyone else.

Just like to point that out.


Roosh ain't a Christian

Anonymous Viking February 08, 2016 5:49 PM  

Media: Your a bastard Roosh.

Roosh: So what?

Media: Wait let me ask you one more question.

Roosh: (Sigh)

Media: How do you feel about nobody liking you?

Roosh: I don't care.

Media: So... What are you doing tonight?

Roosh: Okay? So have a good night.

Media: Wait Roosh. Don't leave me. I love you Roosh.

Blogger tublecane February 08, 2016 5:53 PM  

@113-Of course, you would be accused of "blaming the victim,"which is a weird, special standard for the apparently unique crime of rape. Similar advice for potential victims if theft--like, "Don't flash your roll of bills in a dark alley late at night on the other side of the tracks"--would be seen as good and practical. What's really going on is that they're trying to replace one system of the sexual morality with another, and women taking less responsibility for themselves hurts our case and is fine for theirs. It's as simple as that.

Blogger tublecane February 08, 2016 5:58 PM  

@113-Of course, you would be accused of "blaming the victim,"which is a weird, special standard for the apparently unique crime of rape. Similar advice for potential victims if theft--like, "Don't flash your roll of bills in a dark alley late at night on the other side of the tracks"--would be seen as good and practical. What's really going on is that they're trying to replace one system of the sexual morality with another, and women taking less responsibility for themselves hurts our case and is fine for theirs. It's as simple as that.

Blogger tublecane February 08, 2016 5:58 PM  

@23-I don't know when the trip you describe took place, but enough witnesses to Soviet totalitarianism testify to the opposite, i.e. that they lived in the Oceania of "1984." That was published in 1949, and I imagine sometime between that and the '91 the authorities stopped caring. They had won, they had the power for 70 years, and they killed, cajoled, frightened, enslaved and merely persuaded enough people into submission by then. No need to constantly rub it in. The U.S., meanwhile, still had and has extra- and anti-political culture to deal with. Nobody yet has shot all our priests.

Never forget the the communists invented "political correctness." The goal of SJWs, whether they know it or not, is to arrive at the granite faced, immovable, perpetually boring Brezhnevian state. Once you arrive there you don't have to control everything anymore. And l, in fact, the Soviets were never totalitarian, really. Lenin gave up with the NEP rather early, and they kicked out Trotsky with his permanent revolution. There's more than one way to cow the people. We allow ridiculous amounts of freedom in certain areas, and were Machiavellian geniuses behind it they'd know you have to slacken ropes for people to hang themselves.

Blogger Azimus February 08, 2016 6:29 PM  

A most impressive performance. He never let them carry him away or spin him. Even that "But you're so tough why wouldn't you just meet anyway?" bait. An excellent study. If SJWAL would go into another printing, this would be a fantastic appendix (appendage?)

Anonymous average bob February 08, 2016 6:59 PM  

You got it wrong cuckboy, now go away. There are no ugly feminists for you to impress with your white knighting...

Anonymous average bob February 08, 2016 7:02 PM  

Cuckboy, next thing you will be telling as that women are not responsible for their actions

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis February 08, 2016 7:08 PM  

Only one complaint: He didn't use the terms "fucktard" or "fucktarded" in describing these "journalists"

Anonymous average bob February 08, 2016 7:11 PM  

Cuckboy, next thing you will be telling as that women are not responsible for their actions. Game works for bedding hoes, not women with old school virtues.

Blogger PatrickH February 08, 2016 7:58 PM  

I believe he did well in the conference, but also made a mistake that will come back to torment him. When he said he had a high notch count and none of them has ever so much as complained...he invited those journalists to launch a series of bottom-feeding expeditions to find every woman out there who so much as claims to have met Roosh. And before too long, they'll find one or more to "complain".

He's going to pay for giving his enemies even that narrow opening.

He is going to need an active aggressive defense to survive this.

Blogger VD February 08, 2016 8:12 PM  

I believe he did well in the conference, but also made a mistake that will come back to torment him.

That's ridiculous. You know you're talking about the author of the Bang books, right? That ship sailed more than a decade ago.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 08, 2016 8:30 PM  

@116

I doubt the Romans or even Greeks would have had a positive opinion of a man who's entire public face and livelihood derived from indulging his baser appetites.

It isn't just Christianity that laughs at losers defining themselves by pussy.

Anonymous Malwyn's apprentice February 08, 2016 8:31 PM  

... a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone ... a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can't resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of ... she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn't want to sleep with.

Like any good piece of satire, Roosh's proposal contains good pieces worthy of consideration. Yes, women have been taught to take less care of their own safety than their personal property.

I've been reading Regency romances lately, and a woman's virtue was both highly protected and extremely fragile. Simply being alone with a man could ruin the woman's reputation, leading to her being shunned and excluded from proper society.

Yet, here's a modern example of women and what is seen as acceptable conduct: shortly before I left for college in the late 1980s, a co-worker asked if I'd ever been drunk. When I said no, she commented, "don't worry, they'll take care of that in your first few weeks." ('cause evidently a young woman who doesn't want to be drunk off her ass is a bad thing.

Anonymous Faceless February 08, 2016 8:57 PM  

The "office over the golf course" that Vice.com is so hung up on - that really was Tuthmosis combining the standard plots of every girl-in-the-city-working-for-a-magazine TV show, but mostly "Just Shoot Me!", right?

They keep referencing back to that. They do in the article mentioned above, and they did in the press conference.

How can people be this stupid? Tuthmosis was a professional troll, and they assumed every word from him was truth?

Anonymous Faceless February 08, 2016 9:08 PM  

@129

You miss entirely why Roosh is interesting:

http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-neomasculinity

One of the things that is nice about Christianity is, ultimately, the ability for the lost to be redeemed.

There are many examples of men who lived a total hedonistic lifestyle, and then, stood up, scraped the filth off, and sought something more. Augustine of Hippo comes to mind. Roosh has an actual Catholic brother who writes for him at RoK; they ran a series of articles explaining monastery discipline and the advent season.

Roosh put down interesting thoughts - the Bang! Man Himself! - has, like a teacher from Ecclesiastes, tried everything, and found that there had to be something more than simple gratification of base lusts:

"Men have a biological need for sex that must be sated for them to function normally, but if that need is overshot, such as in the case of sleeping with women only for ego gratification, the man begins sacrificing more important needs for fleeting pleasure that will provide no lasting meaning. It is normal for a man to pursue sex because he wants sex, but pursuing sex because he wants to impress others, hit an artificial notch count of women, or alleviate personal insecurities will invariably result in self-harm and lost time."

"A man must always check his sexual behavior with the needs of his body and spirit to make sure he is not trying to satisfy the bottomless pit of his animalistic hunger."

"The answers to the questions are difficult, but they must be asked. While most of the world is running downhill to pursue immorality, degeneracy, and base pleasures, the self-actualized man must instead climb upwards along the harder path that makes him a better man today than he was yesterday."

People can be interesting, and you can learn from them, because they are dynamic. The Bang! books are offensive, but he sure appears to have metamorphosed considerably from that point.

"In spite of the faults of organized religion, believers pursue a moral code that has been tested and refined for hundreds of years, giving it far more weight and value than Western consumerism and hedonism, a relatively modern invention."

Anonymous Rhetoric Man February 08, 2016 9:44 PM  

“Australia has tried to keep me out…In England, the House of Commons debated me for half an hour to say how I'm a bad man who shouldn't be allowed entry. The governor of Texas said the same thing. Police from everywhere said that all meetups will be monitored.”

Roosh, whose parents were born in Iran, observably comes from a rape culture. Immigration is rape culture. It is observably true that he comes from a native stock prone to rape. He may not have raped any women, but just because he has yet to be charged, does not mean he has not raped, because it is in his DNA.

“Dozens of threats have come in. Someone said that they're going to burn my house down but save my mom.”

Yes, terrible indeed. But, again, his parents immigrated here. Immigration is rape culture.

“I've never been accused of rape. I've never been charged. No follower of mine has read something by me and then gone to rape because I know if they did hurt a woman it would be all over the news.”

Just like millions of Middle Eastern men in Europe who every day do not commit rape, yet we are to give Roosh the benefit of the doubt?

“it's inviting in rapists in by the hundred-thousands into Rotherham, Cologne, and Malmo.”

Like those from Roosh’s ethnic and cultural background, right?

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 9:54 PM  

I doubt the Romans or even Greeks would have had a positive opinion of a man who's entire public face and livelihood derived from indulging his baser appetites.

Okay, you can doubt the Romans or even the Greeks would, but can you prove it? Are you operating on anything more than just your gut feelings on the subject?

It isn't just Christianity that laughs at losers defining themselves by pussy.

A) You're making a mistake in believing he defines himself by it.
B) No one blinks at those defining themselves by what they're best at, whether it's a sport or a skill.

Blogger S1AL February 08, 2016 10:09 PM  

"He may not have raped any women, but just because he has yet to be charged, does not mean he has not raped, because it is in his DNA."

How about you leave the "guilty until proven innocent" schtick to the pinkos.

Blogger Student in Blue February 08, 2016 10:23 PM  

@S1AL
How about you leave the "guilty until proven innocent" schtick to the pinkos.

The right is so quick to completely cut off anyone not like them, even if otherwise they are allies.

No enemies to the right, really. It's worked pretty well for the left, why not coopt it?

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 08, 2016 10:41 PM  

@134

Incontinence has never been a virtue. A slave to libido is not a Man.

It's literally that simple. You are welcome to read some of those great pagans if you still don't understand what virtue has to do with masculinity.

And yeah, I'm probably wrong about the guy who has made his entire living on teaching nerds and dipshits how to score with whores. Sure.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 08, 2016 10:49 PM  

@133

And you obviously can't read.

I'm sure the guy is absolutely fascinating, it's just a non sequitur.

Blogger Azimus February 08, 2016 10:59 PM  

Hezekiah Garrett February 08, 2016 10:41 PM
Incontinence has never been a virtue. A slave to libido is not a Man.

It's literally that simple. You are welcome to read some of those great pagans if you still don't understand what virtue has to do with masculinity.

And yeah, I'm probably wrong about the guy who has made his entire living on teaching nerds and dipshits how to score with whores. Sure.


You are mistaken to equate stoicism with an universal ancient view of masculinity. See epicureanism.

Blogger ray February 08, 2016 11:04 PM  

"One of the things that is nice about Christianity is, ultimately, the ability for the lost to be redeemed.

"There are many examples of men who lived a total hedonistic lifestyle, and then, stood up, scraped the filth off, and sought something more. Augustine of Hippo comes to mind. Roosh has an actual Catholic brother who writes for him at RoK; they ran a series of articles explaining monastery discipline and the advent season.

"Roosh put down interesting thoughts - the Bang! Man Himself! - has, like a teacher from Ecclesiastes, tried everything, and found that there had to be something more than simple gratification of base lusts"


Mr. Bang Himself wrote articles with his 'priest' brother explaining monasteries, and all about Advent?

LOL! Teacher from Ecclesiastes, eh? Hey when does Mr. Bang 'bring it all back home' and write Bang Iran? :O) He can teach them about the Koran during his rest periods! Whilst saving Western Civilization.

Ok well good luck folks.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett February 08, 2016 11:17 PM  

@139

You'd be right, if I did. But I didn't, so you aren't.

Anonymous JamesD February 09, 2016 2:38 AM  

"What is the purpose of whipping up literally worldwide mob over a tiny group of people who wield no power? "

Fear. Ideas have power.

Blogger JaimeInTexas February 09, 2016 7:28 AM  

Roosh had an outline of points he wanted to cover.

Did you not notice?

Blogger PatrickH February 09, 2016 7:39 AM  

@128: VD. My comment would be ridiculous in a world in which journalists are not toadies and lickspittles whoring for the enemies of civilization. But they are whores. And our enemies are their pimps.

I did not say the lickspittles needed to find a woman who sincerely thought she "might" have been raped. They don't even need to find a woman who claims she had sex with Roosh. Or for that matter, who spoke to him once somewhere sort of vague. All they need is to find a woman who is willing to claim publicly that she was "raped" by Roosh. Do you think the media can't find women willing to do that? Have they not already done this kind of thing?

Roosh did well in his press conference. But SJWs, their political masters and their masters' PR flunkies are only interested in destroying the enemies of Those Who Rule.

They'll bribe a liar to lie. That's their MO. Lies are the very substance of their being.

Anyway, the media are killing themselves by doing this. But that may be long-run. When I say Roosh needs an active and aggressive defense in the short-run, I am as much as recommending SJWAL to him. He's read it, I know. I mean, intenalize the lessons. Get it right down deep in the wiring of his brain. Out to the tips of capillaries, infusing every cell in his body.

Don't give them ANYTHING. Don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Never accept any of their premises, especially the implicit ones.

Never complain. Never explain. Keep the frame on them. Roosh did well. But they'll try to hurt him, if they think he's dangerous. And he is.

I hope and believe he'll be okay. But he may need friends, at least until Trump is elected President.

Blogger JaimeInTexas February 09, 2016 7:45 AM  

Roosh's womanizing is not something to be emulated by Christians, sure enough. But all men understand the impulse.

The thing about Roosh pursuits is that it is the creation of the feminists.

Feminists wanted to liberate, unchain, women from the constraints of patriarchy. Feminists teach that women can be like a man in their sexuality.

Feminists liberated all right; liberated men from channeling manliness into chivalry and acts of exploration, heroism and restraint.

Roosh is meeting the liberated woman on her terms, throws in some "romance novel" words- smithing and charm and good looks.

And the liberated women complain!

Blogger Student in Blue February 09, 2016 9:28 AM  

@Hezekiah Garrett
Incontinence has never been a virtue. A slave to libido is not a Man.

It's literally that simple. You are welcome to read some of those great pagans if you still don't understand what virtue has to do with masculinity.


I asked you to prove it, and you respond by going "nuh uh do your own research on my assertions".

And yeah, I'm probably wrong about the guy who has made his entire living on teaching nerds and dipshits how to score with whores. Sure.

Considering that's the extent of your knowledge of him, yes you're wrong about him.

@ray
Mr. Bang Himself wrote articles with his 'priest' brother explaining monasteries, and all about Advent?

No, a monk wrote about monasteries and Advent, not Roosh. Roosh approved it and allowed it but did not write it. Learn to read.

LOL! Teacher from Ecclesiastes, eh? Hey when does Mr. Bang 'bring it all back home' and write Bang Iran?

When you stop being a 12-year-old troll and maybe stop arguing from bad faith.

Anonymous What? February 09, 2016 11:22 PM  

Is this the same creepy 36 year old loser who hangs out in bars looking for drunk women and writes juvenile books with Bang in the title? Why so few people at this "press conference"?

Blogger rikta khatun April 12, 2016 3:41 PM  

Thanks

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