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Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Donald Trump speech to AIPAC

Good evening. I speak to you today as a lifelong supporter and true friend of Israel. I am a newcomer to politics but not to backing the Jewish state.

In late 2001, weeks after the attacks on New York City and Washington – attacks perpetrated by Islamic fundamentalists, Mayor Giuliani visited Israel to show solidarity with terror victims. I sent him in my plane because I backed the mission 100%.

In Spring 2004, at the height of violence in the Gaza Strip, I was the Grand Marshal of the 40th Salute to Israel Parade, the largest single gathering in support of the Jewish state.

It was a very dangerous time for Israel and frankly for anyone supporting Israel – many people turned down this honor –I did not, I took the risk.

I didn’t come here tonight to pander to you about Israel. That’s what politicians do: all talk, no action. I came here to speak to you about where I stand on the future of American relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship, and our cultural brother, the only democracy in the Middle East, the State of Israel.

My number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran. I have been in business a long time. I know deal-making and let me tell you, this deal is catastrophic – for America, for Israel, and for the whole Middle East.

The problem here is fundamental. We have rewarded the world’s leading state sponsor of terror with $150 billion and we received absolutely nothing in return.


I’ve studied this issue in greater detail than almost anybody. The biggest concern with the deal is not necessarily that Iran is going to violate it, although it already has, the bigger problem is that they can keep the terms and still get to the bomb by simply running out the clock, and, of course, they keep the billions.

The deal doesn’t even require Iran to dismantle its military nuclear capability! Yes, it places limits on its military nuclear program for only a certain number of years. But when those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go, and with zero provision for delay no matter how bad Iran’s behavior is. When I am president, I will adopt a strategy that focuses on three things when it comes to Iran.

First, we will stand up to Iran’s aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region. Iran is a very big problem and will continue to be, but if I’m elected President, I know how to deal with trouble. Iran is a problem in Iraq, a problem in Syria, a problem in Lebanon, a problem in Yemen, and will be a very major problem for Saudi Arabia. Literally every day, Iran provides more and better weapons to their puppet states.
Hezbollah in Lebanon has received sophisticated anti-ship weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, and GPS systems on rockets. Now they’re in Syria trying to establish another front against Israel from the Syrian side of the Golan Heights.

In Gaza, Iran is supporting Hamas and Islamic Jihad – and in the West Bank they are openly offering Palestinians $7,000 per terror attack and $30,000 for every Palestinian terrorist’s home that’s been destroyed.

Iran is financing military forces throughout the Middle East and it is absolutely indefensible that we handed them over $150 billion to facilitate even more acts of terror.

Secondly, we will totally dismantle Iran’s global terror network. Iran has seeded terror groups all over the world. During the last five years, Iran has perpetrated terror attacks in 25 different countries on five continents. They’ve got terror cells everywhere, including in the western hemisphere very close to home. Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world and we will work to dismantle that reach.

Third, at the very least, we must hold Iran accountable by restructuring the terms of the previous deal. Iran has already – since the deal is in place – test-fired ballistic missiles three times. Those ballistic missiles, with a range of 1,250 miles, were designed to intimidate not only Israel, which is only 600 miles away but also intended to frighten Europe, and, someday, the United States.

Do you want to hear something really shocking? As many of the great people in this room know, painted on those missiles – in both Hebrew and Farsi – were the words “Israel must be wiped off the face of the earth.”

What kind of demented minds write that in Hebrew? And here’s another twisted part – testing these missiles does not even violate the horrible deal that we made!

The deal is silent on test missiles but those tests DO violate UN Security Council Resolutions. The problem is, no one has done anything about it. Which brings me to my next point – the utter weakness and incompetence of the United Nations.

The United Nations is not a friend of democracy. It’s not a friend to freedom. It’s not a friend even to the United States of America, where as all know, it has its home. And it surely isn’t a friend to Israel.

With President Obama in his final year, discussions have been swirling about an attempt to bring a security council resolution on the terms of an eventual agreement between Israel and Palestine. Let me be clear: An agreement imposed by the UN would be a total and complete disaster. The United States must oppose this resolution and use the power of our veto. Why? Because that’s not how you make a deal.

Deals are made when parties come to the table and negotiate. Each side must give up something it values in exchange for something it requires. A deal that imposes conditions on Israel and the Palestinian Authority will do nothing to bring peace. It will only further delegitimize Israel and it would reward Palestinian terrorism, because every day they are stabbing Israelis – and even Americans.

Just last week, American Taylor Allen Force, a West Point grad who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was murdered in the street by a knife-wielding Palestinian. You don’t reward that behavior, you confront it!

It’s not up the United Nations to impose a solution. The parties must negotiate a resolution themselves. The United States can be useful as a facilitator of negotiations, but no one should be telling Israel it must abide by some agreement made by others thousands of miles away that don’t even really know what’s happening.

When I’m president, believe me, I will veto any attempt by the UN to impose its will on the Jewish state. You see, I know about deal-making – that’s what I do. I wrote The Art of the Deal, one of the all-time best-selling books about deals and deal making. To make a great deal, you need two willing participants.

We know Israel is willing to deal. Israel has been trying to sit down at the negotiating table, without pre-conditions, for years. You had Camp David in 2000, where Prime Minister Barak made an incredible offer – maybe even too generous. Arafat rejected it.

In 2008, Prime Minister Olmert made an equally generous offer. The Palestinian Authority rejected it. Then John Kerry tried to come up with a framework and Abbas didn’t even respond, not even to the Secretary of State of the United States of America!

When I become President, the days of treating Israel like a second-class citizen will end on Day One. I will meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu immediately. I have known him for many years and we will be able to work closely together to help bring stability and peace to Israel and to the entire region.

Meanwhile, every single day, you have rampant incitement and children being taught to hate Israel and hate the Jews. When you live in a society where the firefighters are the hero’s little kids want to be firefighters.

When you live in a society where athletes and movie stars are heroes, little kids want to be athletes and movie stars. In Palestinian society, the heroes are those who murder Jews – we can’t let this continue. You cannot achieve peace if terrorists are treated as martyrs. Glorifying terrorists is a tremendous barrier to peace.

In Palestinian textbooks and mosques, you’ve got a culture of hatred that has been fermenting there for years, and if we want to achieve peace, they’ve got to end this indoctrination of hatred. There is no moral equivalency. Israel does not name public squares after terrorists. Israel does not pay its children to stab random Palestinians.

You see, what President Obama gets wrong about deal making is that he constantly applies pressure to our friends and rewards our enemies. That pattern, practiced by the President and his administration, including former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, has repeated itself over and over and has done nothing but embolden those who hate America. We saw that with releasing $150 billion to Iran in the hope that they would magically join the world community – It’s the same with Israel and Palestine.

President Obama thinks that applying pressure to Israel will force the issue, but it’s precisely the opposite. Already, half the population of Palestine has been taken over by the Palestinian ISIS in Hamas, and the other half refuses to confront the first half, so it’s a very difficult situation but when the United States stands with Israel, the chances of peace actually rise. That’s what will happen when I’m president.

We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem – and we will send a clear signal that there is no daylight between America and our most reliable ally, the state of Israel.

The Palestinians must come to the table knowing that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable. They must come to the table willing and able to stop the terror being committed on a daily basis against Israel and they must come to the table willing to accept that Israel is a Jewish State and it will forever exist as a Jewish State.

Thank you very much, its been a great honor to be with you.

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My comment: This is better than I would have expected, not as good as I would have hoped. It is not a ritual genuflection, but a practical acknowledgement of the current realities. The deal with Iran is ridiculous. Attacking the UN is the right thing to do and may be a harbinger of more positive developments on that front. Moving the embassy is irrelevant, but a nice gesture.

At no point is there any indication that he is inclined to wage Israel's wars for them as the previous two presidents have done, and that is the main thing.

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137 Comments:

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 22, 2016 1:06 PM  

I want to think that Trump was being tactful, knowing with whom he is dealing and that, if he is to break arrest the downward spiral of societal decay that is accelerating daily he must, if he hopes to have a chance of succeeding, proceed accordingly. As I said, this is what I WANT to believe. There is no alternative to Trump.

Blogger Doseux March 22, 2016 1:15 PM  

One word: Teleprompter.

I feel llke he's dog-whistling covertly.

Blogger Salt March 22, 2016 1:16 PM  

Moving the embassy is irrelevant, but a nice gesture.

I wouldn't say irrelevant at all. Palestinians, and the Muslim world, lay claim to Jerusalem. Moving the embassy would signal that Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

Anonymous Broken Arrow March 22, 2016 1:17 PM  

The huge gamble the Obama administration made with Iran is to lift the sanctions, give them money, and hope that over the next 10 years increased economic opportunity and "opening up" of Iran will help the citizens pressure the regime reason not to use a nuke.

Anonymous Viking March 22, 2016 1:19 PM  

There are now thousands of liberal Jewish folks in New York and across America who are completely confused on what they are supposed to be doing, thinking and saying right now.

*Minds Blown*

Blogger Servant of the Chief March 22, 2016 1:20 PM  

" We have rewarded the world’s leading state sponsor of terror with $150 billion"

Irishman here, been watching the American presidential race with some interest given how unusual this has been this year. This is the only real thing I find truly disagreeable with his speech. Iran is not the No.1 state sponsor of terrorism, Saudi Arabia is, but given Israel is more concerned with Iran than Arabia and how idiotic giving those barbarians a nuke is, I can understand the emphasis. Russia is Iran's ally and even they would never trust them with a nuke.

Really, my only main concern with Trump getting the presidency is what he does regarding Syria wether he will change tack and support Assad or continue the disastrous foreign gameplay in the region. And, more importantly for Europe, whether he will continue to support that nutjob in Ankara who is threatening to drag us all into WWIII with his delusions of empire. I think he's the only one who might do something different, perhaps if Cruz becomes his running mate instead of his opponent. Because Hillary will just see us all burn if it means an extra penny in her pocket.

Blogger Nick S March 22, 2016 1:20 PM  

Lifelong GOPe insiders are beginning to leak their longtime associations, friendships and support for Donald Trump. Coincidence?

The odds are, regardless of how anyone feels about it, Trump will be POTUS.

Blogger Lovekraft March 22, 2016 1:23 PM  

The reason Obama agreed to the Iran shakedown is because they spoke his language. Obama is nothing more than a 'community organizer' which is code for strong arm companies in order to avoid violence.

Obama's foreign policy belongs among third-rate dictators, not a nation like the United States.

Reason # 304 to nominate Obama as the most dangerous man on the planet.

Blogger Teri March 22, 2016 1:23 PM  

Trump has said that it's better to leave the Middle East dictators in power, than to destabilize the area.

http://huff.to/1UCG4kH

(Huff post link, sorry)

Anonymous Sam the Man March 22, 2016 1:27 PM  

I find the entire fact that US presidential candidates have to suck off a foreign lobby to be............ Rather distasteful.

I mean Trump is a German-Scot. How would folks feel if he went and did this to a German Bund organization?

Bizzare.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 22, 2016 1:29 PM  

my only main concern with Trump getting the presidency is what he does regarding Syria wether he will change tack and support Assad or continue the disastrous foreign gameplay in the region

Good question. We "Muricans" are supposed to feel bad because we supported horrible, no good, right-wing dictators (left-wing dictators, oops, I mean leaders of the People's Revolution, would have been OK.)

We need to get back to realizing that picking the least bad option is our best bet and stop sending people over to get killed trying to establish Jeffersonian Democracy.

Blogger praetorian March 22, 2016 1:34 PM  

I mean Trump is a German-Scot. How would folks feel if he went and did this to a German Bund organization?

Stop noticing things, sir.

I don't blame Trump, this is part of the deal. That this is part of the deal is insane, and hopefully some day it won't be, but right now... it do.

Blogger Noah B March 22, 2016 1:36 PM  

It's upsetting to see more emphasis placed on Israel's well being than that of all of Europe. Hopefully Trump is just going through the motions here.

Blogger Austin Ballast March 22, 2016 1:37 PM  

What was missing? We are not their defense force and will stay out of the way forcing solutions down their throats.

What else should he have said in the eyes of those who didn't like what he said? What more would you have wanted VD?

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 22, 2016 1:37 PM  

The absolute moral bankruptcy of the left is demonstrated by the fact that before he got on their bad list he and his wife were being celebrated in Vogue.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/the-only-remaining-online-copy-of-vogues-asma-al-assad-profile/250753/

Sure he might be useful, but its really quite gauche to let your power worshiping tendencies show so blatantly in public.

Blogger Austin Ballast March 22, 2016 1:38 PM  

@13 Noah,

He was addressing AIPAC. Focusing on Israel makes complete sense. Focusing on Europe would make no more sense than focusing on Australia in that context.

Blogger Lazarus March 22, 2016 1:39 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:I find the entire fact that US presidential candidates have to suck off a foreign lobby to be............ Rather distasteful.

I mean Trump is a German-Scot. How would folks feel if he went and did this to a German Bund organization?

Bizzare.


Maybe if Congress had paid Chaim Salomon the money they owed him for bankrolling the American Revolution, this would not be necessary.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 22, 2016 1:40 PM  

Did all speakers use the phrase "Jewish state?" Trump used it incessantly I thought

Blogger Cinco March 22, 2016 1:41 PM  

@ servant of he chief

Iran is a "state sponsor" and Independent citizens of Saudi Arabia fund terrorism.

Anonymous 11B March 22, 2016 1:44 PM  

Moving the embassy is irrelevant, but a nice gesture.

Maybe Trump the negotiator can move the embassy to Jerusalem in exchange for AIPAC giving up its support of open borders for the USA.

Blogger Noah B March 22, 2016 1:45 PM  

Austin, my comment was regarding the total focus of American politics and not specifically about AIPAC.

Anonymous Faceless March 22, 2016 1:46 PM  

I did not walk away thinking he intended to be the President of Israel.

Cruz, Kasich, and Hillary left me with that impression.

Well, Hillary wants to be Golda Meir - the one who warmed up the nukes and prepared the cabinet for the final hours of suicide before disgrace save for God and Ariel Sharon stopping a tank column headed to the capital, but, pretty much the same thing.

Anonymous Faceless March 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

Cinco wrote:@ servant of he chief

Iran is a "state sponsor" and Independent citizens of Saudi Arabia fund terrorism.


I saw this same thing as a distinction but of only limited use. It is a problem, with a ruling family of two hundred brothers, half-brothers, and cousins, the ones who like America are the senile and enfeebled ones. Don't all the young Saudi princes hate US?

Anonymous Andrew E. March 22, 2016 1:48 PM  

Trump on bringing democracy to the Middle East, from New Hampshire last October:

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/10/26/trump-burkas-easier-for-women-they-dont-have-to-put-on-makeup/

Blogger tz March 22, 2016 1:49 PM  

AIPAC condemns the speech

“Last evening, something occurred which has the potential to drive us apart. To divide us. We say unequivocally that we do not countenance ad hominem attacks, and we take great offense to those that are levied at the President of the United States of America from our stage,” AIPAC President Lillian Pinkus said as she was joined on stage by Chairman of the Board Bob Cohen, Chief Executive Officer Howard Kohr, and Vice Chief Executive Officer Richard Fishman on the last day of the annual policy conference. “While we may have policy differences, we deeply respect the office of the President of the United States and our President, Barack Obama. We are disappointed that so many people applauded a sentiment that we neither agree with nor condone.”

also quoted here

Blogger Noah B March 22, 2016 1:52 PM  

@tz

WOW.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 22, 2016 1:53 PM  

@25 tz:

Meh. Nothing Trump could have said would be good enough for AIPAC as a group.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 1:57 PM  

At no point is there any indication that he is inclined to wage Israel's wars for them as the previous two presidents have done, and that is the main thing.

First, we will stand up to Iran’s aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region. Iran is a very big problem and will continue to be, but if I’m elected President, I know how to deal with trouble. Iran is a problem in Iraq, a problem in Syria, a problem in Lebanon, a problem in Yemen, and will be a very major problem for Saudi Arabia.

"Standing up to Iran" and "dealing with trouble" is an indication.

Blogger professorastro March 22, 2016 2:01 PM  

Trump deserves to be President of the USA just for the balls to tell a room full of Jews he knows how to make a deal.

It's funny seeing some of the WN here and other places try to spin his speech as cypto-anti-Zionism. We should just be happy he would turn the US away from a NeoCon/NeoLib foreign policy, but he's not going to throw Israel under the bus. Does anyone think that a successful NY businessman doesn't know how to do make deals with the chosen folk?

Anonymous Broken Arrow March 22, 2016 2:02 PM  

Heh.

HCBS Cuts Off Clinton to End Interview After She Says Europe Hasn’t ‘Come to Grips’ with ISIS Threat

Anonymous TLM March 22, 2016 2:02 PM  

Trump being a New Yorker I'm sure he knows the Jews and how they operate better than most in this country. While many of us would have loved a pissed off trump swinging for the fences by coming out with something along the lines of " F u Jews, no more American financial aid when I'm President, etc etc". His speech was more cordial than ass kissing IMO. Ted Cruz probably blew all the Jews in attendance after last call at the hotel bar afterwards.

Anonymous Fran March 22, 2016 2:04 PM  

@25
I'm sure they were very respectful to Bush.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean March 22, 2016 2:05 PM  

@7 Nick S - The odds are, regardless of how anyone feels about it, Trump will be POTUS.

This betting site is currently paying +175 for a Trump POTUS win.

Go for it.

Blogger Guitar Man March 22, 2016 2:07 PM  

WN's are triggered!

Anonymous cincinnatus March 22, 2016 2:08 PM  

Iran is not the No.1 state sponsor of terrorism, Saudi Arabia is, but given Israel is more concerned with Iran than Arabia and how idiotic giving those barbarians a nuke is, I can understand the emphasis.

@6 Servant of the Chief
Trump fully realizes that Israel, Saudi Arabia, and ISIS are all nudge-nudge-wink-wink allies, which is why he concentrated on the poor behavior of the Shi'ites and didn't talk at all about bombing the h*ll out of ISIS (which he certainly would have done if he was as ignert as commonly made out).

Or talk about letting Assad and Russia bomb the h*ll out of them, for that matter.

Blogger VD March 22, 2016 2:12 PM  

Moving the embassy would signal that Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

It does. Deal with it.

"Standing up to Iran" and "dealing with trouble" is an indication.

It is. It means he's not going to defend Israel to the last American. Compare his speech to past candidate's speeches. It's very clear that he's saying we're allies, we're friends, but we have our own interests.

Anonymous Discard March 22, 2016 2:13 PM  

I read that this is the first time Trump has used a teleprompter. Any significance in that?

Blogger praetorian March 22, 2016 2:13 PM  

WN's are triggered!

As much fun as the bantz are, please direct fire left.

Your assistance in this matter of preserving our civilization is appreciated.

Blogger SciVo March 22, 2016 2:21 PM  

It was a good speech. I watched it and Trump performed it better than Kasich and Ryan did theirs, and they weren't bad. He has his tics that annoy me, such as the smug look, but I don't care. He's the right man for the time precisely because of his ZFG attitude. We need it.

Anonymous StateHateIsGreat March 22, 2016 2:25 PM  

I hope Trump keeps the aid to Israel as high, or higher than previous administrations. Of all the nations that hate the Lord Jesus Christ and those that believe in Him, Israel is my favorite.

Blogger Gaiseric March 22, 2016 2:27 PM  

Austin Ballast wrote:What was missing? We are not their defense force and will stay out of the way forcing solutions down their throats.

What else should he have said in the eyes of those who didn't like what he said? What more would you have wanted VD?

The best response would have been to have declined the invitation with a polite notification that while Israel is a strategic ally to America and will remain so under his administration, he has more pressing domestic concerns to attend to right now and does not need to butter up a foreign lobby.

But there's time for that after his first term, I suppose.

Anonymous cincinnatus March 22, 2016 2:28 PM  

I read that this is the first time Trump has used a teleprompter. Any significance in that?

@37 Discard
If you're speaking from the heart, you don't need a teleprompter.

Also, notice the look on his face as he goes up to the podium. (It's at the 28-second mark in the video VD put up at the bottom of the previous "Trump declares noninterventionist foreign policy" post.) Looks like he has indigestion. I suspect he didn't want to give that speech, but figured he had to.

Blogger SciVo March 22, 2016 2:30 PM  

Discard wrote:I read that this is the first time Trump has used a teleprompter. Any significance in that?

Yes, that explains why he used some words that most people wouldn't understand. When he speaks extemporaneously, he's smarter than that.

Anonymous Osprey March 22, 2016 2:37 PM  

@15 -- The Vogue article chose to show a lot of insightful details.

For example:

* Bashar Assad was not raised to be the ruler. (He was the second son, but his older brother died unexpectedly.)
* Bashar Assad is bright enough to have become a surgeon.
* He became an eye surgeon because "because it’s very precise, it’s almost never an emergency, and there is very little blood."
* He married an investment banker. (She was a Syrian Sunni, raised in Syria and London, who majored in Computer Science.)
* His wife wants rich people to know she's rich, by the "flash of red soles" of her expensive shoes.
* Their children play with Legos and go to a Montessori school.
* He and his wife continued to respect the property rights of the "Jewish quarter in old Damascus", decades after the Jews left for Israel.
* His wife went to a lot of trouble to say that the work of foreign NGOs was not "charity".
* Syria accumulates tribes of refugees -- it does not assimilate them.
* "The first thing [he] did [was] to allow the Iraqis to go into schools. If they don’t have an education, they will go back as a bomb, in every way: terrorism, extremism, drug dealers, crime."
* He thought that "If [he had] a secular and balanced neighbor, [he would] be safe."

Thus, it makes sense that:

* His foes saw him as not having the will to fight.
* Unlike his father, he hesitated when the rebellion broke out. This let the rebellion get out of control.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 2:37 PM  


It is. It means he's not going to defend Israel to the last American. Compare his speech to past candidate's speeches. It's very clear that he's saying we're allies, we're friends, but we have our own interests.


I think he's giving the same sort of speech as every other candidate, but I will go and read their speeches to compare.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 22, 2016 2:42 PM  

@43 He's talking to Jews, he can use bigger words. Only the reporters won't understand.

(As has been widely reported, in his other speeches Trump uses a 4th grade vocabulary, because he's talking to EVERYONE, the same way a 1911 uses a single-stack .45 magazine because damn near everyone in the military can get their hand around it. When he talks to a different audience, he can use better words. Because he knows lots of words!)

Blogger Ingot9455 March 22, 2016 2:46 PM  

As I've mentioned before, everyone promises to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem but no one ever does it. There's no place to build a full-service embassy in Jerusalem, no place to park for the traffic you get to do basic embassy work like stamping visas, and it would be impossible to drive there with the traffic. Not to mention the computer infrastructure is not up to the full needs of an embassy.

The real Embassy is in Tel Aviv, where you can get all of those things, and where the people in the embassy can actually meet with the people they need to meet with. There's a branch embassy in Jerusalem already for normal embassy work.

As great as the symbolic move would be, the reality of it doesn't meet the road.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 2:46 PM  

When he talks to a different audience, he can use better words. Because he knows lots of words!

I have words, I have the best words!

Blogger Student in Blue March 22, 2016 2:47 PM  

@46. Ingot9455

The upgrade in vocabulary was pretty noticeable on my end too. Of course his audience was a bit smarter so he had to speak on a smarter level.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 22, 2016 2:52 PM  

Scott Baio: "When he speaks I understand him."

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/scott-baio-donald-trump-endorsement-1201734837/

Blogger Sheila4g March 22, 2016 3:00 PM  

I was so nauseated by the glimpse (hard to avoid glancing at the tv in the gym) of US presidential candidates genuflecting before dual citizens/US traitors that I really am not interested in parsing the speeches. Yes, I'm aware of the "need" to appear presidential, etc., but I would much prefer that Trump had avoided this gathering with the excuse of more pressing concerns. It enrages me that American presidential candidates are required to perform rituals of fealty to the damned 2% of the population which is doing its utmost to destroy America via open borders.

FWIW, even my friend from W. Va. admitted to me that, while she believes "God gave Israel to the Jews etc.", she wants a president who's concerned with America first.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 22, 2016 3:04 PM  

I see Trump is in "Agree, Amplify" mode. Yep, the (((ancient friends))) must be wondering how to spin this as Hitler-talk without looking like childish idiots.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 3:08 PM  

As much fun as the bantz are, please direct fire left.

That's what he's doing

Blogger Were-Puppy March 22, 2016 3:16 PM  

This whole thing about Trumps vocabulary is interesting. For some time now I've thought he was purposely keeping it very low to appeal to more people. Just a hunch. Maybe there is something to it.

Blogger Teri March 22, 2016 3:27 PM  

Don't forget that Trump did this speech to get out of yet another debate. And I thought about the comment here on moving the embassy to Jerusalem, but it probably got his loudest ovation.

Blogger ray March 22, 2016 3:29 PM  

"At no point is there any indication that he is inclined to wage Israel's wars for them as the previous two presidents have done, and that is the main thing"


No that's a nothing. A deke, mostly to feed the Joo Haters on the international Right, and the moozies who hustle attendant online propaganda. Even the Iran Deal criticism was a fake . . . well, a far-secondary issue, put it thataway.

The main thing, as always when it comes to modern/political Israel, is division of the land. Who divides it and who gets it. That's all this speech was about, really, and Donnie (wisely) was careful to stay on-text to ensure he didn't mis-speak in this crucial area.

Donnie sez the UN won't make the deal, the US won't make the deal, but the door is left open for The Dealmaker Himself to make the deal! lol after all he wrote the Book!

A deal that God thru Scripture absolutely forbids, reserving that land for disposition by his Son. You can't give away what doesn't belong to you.

On the bright side, with a Trump win there's at least a decent chance that America's two top Presidential advisors no longer will be Iranian and Saudi females. Apparently I should celebrate this great accomplishment of my nation. Assuming it happens.

Anonymous cheddarman March 22, 2016 3:30 PM  

This proposal to move the capital to jerusalem will get the dispensational evagelicals excited, it is one of those end times critical events. Maybe Nate is secretly advising the Trump camp, as he has been silent last couple of days.

Blogger YIH March 22, 2016 3:31 PM  

Guitar Man:
WN's are triggered
Not really, they know he had to pander:
So the options are:

a) call out the Jews, have zero chance of winning, and

b) say nice things about Israel, and have a shot at getting in.

The pandering doesn’t have anything to do with Jews as voters. None of them are going to vote for him anyway. And besides, they are only 2% of the population, and the majority of those are liberal Democrats anyway.

The pandering is purely for the evangelical vote.

And there just isn’t any way around it.

Anonymous cincinnatus March 22, 2016 3:33 PM  

@45 John

Kasich emphasized helping to build a holocaust memorial, giving Israel fancy weapons and intends to continue to do this, and so forth. But, he's naïve enough to rail against ISIS, which Israel is not concerned about. And, he railed against "racism, bigotry, anti-Semitism", "hate speech", "harassment", and other SJW tropes. If you're a cuck, vote Cucksick.

Paul Ryan looked pleased as punch to be there. "Wow! Gosh!" He tore up the idea that we should not have "entangling alliances" because (non-)threats from abroad, attacking Trump's idea that we shouldn't have to pay for other countries' defense (NATO, Japan/Korea). He's committed to paying for and giving Israel advanced weapons systems. He also stated that U.S. and Israeli interests are "one and the same" in regarding terrorism. (They're not; consider ISIS.) Ryan also has the compressed-mouth look typical of low-ranking men whenever he pauses in his speaking.

Cruz was talking about defeating tyrants and radical Islamic terrorism together with Israel. (Again, what about ISIS and the other Wahhabis?) He said he'd be a "champion for Israel" (isn't that Netanyahu's job?) Explicitly promised to shoot down Iranian missiles, and to Iran, "shut down your nuclear program or we will shut it down for you".

Blogger SteelPalm March 22, 2016 3:34 PM  

Since I didn't see it mentioned, it should be noted that the most popular presidential candidate in Israel...is Donald Trump. (Amusingly, Bernie Sanders is the most hated)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/07/donald-trump-israel-poll/

As for AIPAC, they are worthless, timid cuckservatives with no power and influence. They're only good at suckering in donors, like the GOP Establishment. This is coming from a Russian Jew.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 22, 2016 3:35 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:This whole thing about Trumps vocabulary is interesting. For some time now I've thought he was purposely keeping it very low to appeal to more people. Just a hunch. Maybe there is something to it.

Not just more people, simpler language is more persuasive.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 22, 2016 3:35 PM  

Cinco wrote:Iran is a "state sponsor" and Independent citizens of Saudi Arabia fund terrorism.
All of which "Independent Citizens" seem to be styled 'Prince'
Odd that...

Blogger Donald Selman March 22, 2016 3:36 PM  

Glenn Beck is really getting bat shit crazy. He believes God is talking to him now. And he wants his cult followers to hear it to. Maybe by election day he will be in a padded cell.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 3:42 PM  

Not really, they know he had to pander:

God-Emperor Trump has convinced white nationalists that pandering to Jews is good.

Truly, the man can work miracles.

Blogger SciVo March 22, 2016 3:48 PM  

Rusty Fife wrote:Not just more people, simpler language is more persuasive.

Exactly. I spent three decades learning more words, then another one learning how to not use them. And Trump has had longer to practice that.

Blogger synp March 22, 2016 3:49 PM  

"There's no place to build a full-service embassy in Jerusalem, no place to park for the traffic you get to do basic embassy work like stamping visas, and it would be impossible to drive there with the traffic. Not to mention the computer infrastructure is not up to the full needs of an embassy."

That's pretty much BS. Look it up in Google Maps. The embassy in Tel Aviv is on prime beach-front real estate. There's virtually no parking there and traffic is horrendous. It's fairly easy to find much better space in western Jerusalem.

As for network infrastructure - Israeli regulation is modeled after European regulation. You get pretty much the same service all over the country, and Jerusalem has just as much access as Tel Aviv.

Blogger Gaiseric March 22, 2016 3:51 PM  

cheddarman wrote:This proposal to move the capital to jerusalem will get the dispensational evagelicals excited, it is one of those end times critical events. Maybe Nate is secretly advising the Trump camp, as he has been silent last couple of days.
I admit to not being up to snuff on dispensationalism doctrine, but where exactly in the Bible is it prophesied that the American embassy will move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 22, 2016 3:53 PM  

Glenn Beck is really getting bat shit crazy.

Yep, was listening to him, briefly, a couple of days ago and apparently Trump is part of some sort of Russian, right-wing conspiracy to bring back fascism or something. I really couldn't follow it. But rest assured, Beck is on top of it. Then it went to commercial and I was assured by some old actor that I needed to buy some gold through "something capitol" and they wouldn't charge me an arm and a leg for facilitating the transaction.

Blogger Great, Round, Firm, Sweetly-scented and Velvety-soft Bosoms of Liberty March 22, 2016 3:54 PM  

Discard wrote:I read that this is the first time Trump has used a teleprompter. Any significance in that?

It's a calculated insult.

Blogger synp March 22, 2016 3:54 PM  

"Since I didn't see it mentioned, it should be noted that the most popular presidential candidate in Israel...is Donald Trump. (Amusingly, Bernie Sanders is the most hated)"

Not surprising at all. The other candidates tell Israel what it should do. Trump just talks about what he's going to do. And of course, a Christian saying that the US should be friends with the Palestinians is a virtue-signalling idiot who doesn't understand how the world works. A Jew who does the same is a traitor to his people.

"As for AIPAC, they are worthless, timid cuckservatives with no power and influence."

They're not cuckservatives. They're life-long democrats. And if you're looking for people that Israelis hate worse than Sanders...

Blogger YIH March 22, 2016 3:56 PM  

Donald Selman:
Glenn Cuck is really getting bat shit crazy.
You're implying that he was not batshit in the past?

Anonymous Clay March 22, 2016 4:00 PM  

Oh, this is all stupid. Israel has 5 (maybe 6), Dolphin classed subs capable of firing nuke missiles. German-built. Diesel-powered. You won't find them, or see them, until the nuke lands in your lap.

Same with the US. Go ahead and shoot, ragheads. Your Caliphate will be coming pretty damn quickly, once our crummy satellites pinpoint the launch trajectories of your missiles.

The Iranians know this. If they "fire" a missile at Israel, they will, in turn, be obliterated.

Blogger SciVo March 22, 2016 4:01 PM  

Josh wrote:Not really, they know he had to pander:

God-Emperor Trump has convinced white nationalists that pandering to Jews is good.

Truly, the man can work miracles.


He's like... reverse Hitler. Bizarro World Hitler that convinces people that it's okay to like Jews.

Which is somehow scary.

Blogger synp March 22, 2016 4:02 PM  

I admit to not being up to snuff on dispensationalism doctrine, but where exactly in the Bible is it prophesied that the American embassy will move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

Zechariah 8:22:
Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.

Anonymous BGKB March 22, 2016 4:06 PM  

If Bibi endorses him would that increase or decrease the number of American jews voting TRUMP?

dangerous time for Israel and frankly for anyone supporting Israel – many people turned down this honor –I did not, I took the risk.

Would GRRM have gone there for a free all you can eat buffet?

Trump has said that it's better to leave the Middle East dictators in power, than to destabilize the area

I doubt a single soldier that served in Iraq would think taking out Saddam was a good idea.

Ted Cruz probably blew all the Jews in attendance after last call at the hotel bar afterwards.

Rubio is the Cuban with the double chin.

Moving the embassy would signal that Jerusalem belongs to Israel...It does. Deal with it.

It might signal that he considers Israel property of religious jews not the godless c#cksucking NYC((Jews))

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 4:07 PM  


I admit to not being up to snuff on dispensationalism doctrine, but where exactly in the Bible is it prophesied that the American embassy will move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?


Two Corinthians

Blogger Gaiseric March 22, 2016 4:08 PM  

synp wrote:Zechariah 8:22:

Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.

That's an iffy reading. You could just as easily say that it's already been true for a long time given how Jerusalem has been a Christian pilgrimage site off and on since the Crusades.

Anonymous Alexander March 22, 2016 4:13 PM  

What it boils down to: Will Persians sacrifice themselves in nuclear fire so that Arabs can enjoy a Jew-free Middle East?

My gut instinct is 'no'.

So not our problem.

I'm also not sold by arguments that it would start a 'nuclear arms race', as the past half-century+ have shown that the bar to the nuclear arms club is quite high. Turkey and Iran strike me as the end of the line in terms of cultures that can jump over the hurdle: I don't see the Arabs doing it, and certainly nobody in Africa.

And if the Saudis could buy a handful, if a few USSR nukes or whatnot were every on the market, then I suspect they already have. Certainly if it's a possibility, it's not the sort of thing you hold off on until Iran has nukes, if only because then the price is going to rise exponentially.

So if Israel or Europe or anyone else wants to dick around with Iran, by all means. But we ought stay out of it. Not our circus.

Anonymous The OASF March 22, 2016 4:16 PM  

Iran has turned out to be the big winner of America's failed/pointless anyhow wars as the Iranians are piecing together a superstate out of the shattered remnants over there. One can't help but think of the Biblical implications of this, and all, with the prophesied rise of a new Babylon the Great. Perhaps the resurrection of the American rebels through Trump-ism will give us a reprieve from said rise. Who knows?

But in the here and now, the Iranian deal may be be a product of one of the two options below, or both:

1. The fact that Obama wants to help his kindred.
2. Our financial Overlords (BRICS, led by China) have forced us into it, as they have blocked all of our military escapades against Iran.

Trump realizes that we would crush the BRICS in a trade war, which is exactly what he is proposing by canceling all of the "Trade" deals that have been made with China et. al. over the last several decades. China is incapable of the level of incompetence necessary to not realize this, i.e. they are bluffing. So what punitive economic actions could they take against us for clamping down on Iran?

Russia may grumble about canceling the Iranian deal and can actually do something about it, but I doubt Putin would start a hot war over it.

Conclusion: Trump has no issue with canceling the Iranian deal and it makes perfect sense to do so.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 4:19 PM  

Our financial Overlords (BRICS, led by China) have forced us into it, as they have blocked all of our military escapades against Iran.

You realize what BRICS is, right?

Anonymous Clay March 22, 2016 4:22 PM  

No. He doesn't.

Anonymous The OASF March 22, 2016 4:24 PM  

"You realize what BRICS is, right?"

Yes, I do. Though Russia and China usually do most of the heavy lifting - I believe Russia is the official leader of the group.

Anonymous The OASF March 22, 2016 4:28 PM  

@80

Do you actually have a point to make?

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 4:30 PM  

Yes, I do. Though Russia and China usually do most of the heavy lifting - I believe Russia is the official leader of the group.

No, you don't.

Anonymous I'se A Bric-House March 22, 2016 4:30 PM  

Perhaps you're right.

Look at China. Forget Brazil. What the hell is S.Africa doing in there?

Anonymous The OASF March 22, 2016 4:39 PM  

@84

Refer to @83

Blogger Alexander March 22, 2016 4:39 PM  

South Africa is the world pretending that

1. An African country in a post-colonial world isn't a complete shitshow;

2. Bantu people can create and maintain a society founded by Anglos and Dutch.

I'm not on board the BRICS are our secret overlord train, but I do recognize South Africa is always the token member of the team.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 4:44 PM  

@84

Refer to @83


My point is that you are ignorant

Blogger praetorian March 22, 2016 5:04 PM  

God-Emperor Trump has convinced white nationalists that pandering to Jews is good.

Most WNish folks here are saying it is necessary, not good.

Let’s dispel with this fiction that the Trumpenstaffel think the God Emperor is perfect, will never have to bow to political realities, never lie to us or get caught in bed taking bumps off a hookers ass. That's exactly what we expect.

We don't care.

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 March 22, 2016 5:07 PM  

AIPAC apologized to Obama for their attendees cheering his last year after Trump mentioned it. That has to be worth something.

Perhaps the rank and file are a bit out of step with its leadership like most liberal institutions.

Blogger LES March 22, 2016 5:12 PM  

The wars in the Middle East and terrorism won't end until the Zionists feel secure in Greater Israel . Genesis 15:18

Do you believe that the Koran was delivered by the angel Gabriel or was it plagiarized from the Old Testament and the Talmud?

Don't forget that Purim begins tomorrow that celebrates the massacre of over 75,000 Persians according to the Book of Esther (9:16)

The peaceful religion of Judaism is the father of the peaceful religion of Islam.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 5:13 PM  

Don't forget that Purim begins tomorrow that celebrates the massacre of over 75,000 Persians according to the Book of Esther (9:16)

Self defense, you retard

Blogger LES March 22, 2016 5:24 PM  

@ 92 The massacre never really happened. The book of Esther is even doubted by Jewish experts. But Purim is celebrated anyway.

Blogger Ahazuerus March 22, 2016 5:28 PM  

This nonsense about Iran being the premiere state sponsor of terrorism is childish lunacy. I'm frankly astounded anyone here gives it any credence whatsoever, or can take seriously a man who pretends to believe it.

ISIS is a US/NATO creation and has been funded by Saudis and other US clients in the region to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

The US has destroyed more nations in the last 2 decades than Iran has had wars with (of any sort) in the last 20 decades.

Europe is buckling under the direct effects of the lunatic policy of directly funding the most rabidly violent Islamic terrorists in the middle east, pursued by the very same guy Trump just accused of being soft on Islamic terrorists.

I mean, fucking hell; the train is fine.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 22, 2016 5:29 PM  

@78 Alexander, on Iranian nukes:

Pakistan did it, so I'm pretty sure Turkey is capable, Iran is indeed much more iffy, but one of the things we learned from Gaddafi's surrender of Libya's WMD programs (how that was ultimately rewarded was no doubt noted) was that the Khan network managed to score a powerful PRC Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) implosion warhead design, with factory floor directions that went down to the detail of how much torque to apply to each bolt and what type of thread locker to use.

The Saudis are thought to have helped finance Pakistan's wildly successful nuclear program, and in theory are due some of them if Saudi Arabia really needs them.

Note also that with Pakistan thought to have 120 warheads, a lot of people are betting that the government/ISI I suppose can keep control of all of the working ones. However, if they start selling them ... well, since it's easy enough to sniff the isotopes produced by detonated bomb and figure out where the fissionables came from and the design, they have to know it'll get really ugly if one of their's busts a US city.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 22, 2016 5:33 PM  

Said as only Buchanan can say it:

http://buchanan.org/blog/rule-ruin-republicans-124987

Blogger SciVo March 22, 2016 5:46 PM  

Thank you for that Michael. Buchanan is very smart. I've noticed other people noticing Trump's concision and copying it, and you can really say a lot if you put your mind to it:

"The American people want their borders secured, the invasion stopped, the manufacturing plants brought back and an end to the conscription of our best and bravest to fight wars dreamed up in the tax-exempt think tanks of neoconservatives."

Anonymous Broken Arrow March 22, 2016 5:46 PM  

b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 wrote:AIPAC apologized to Obama for their attendees cheering his last year after Trump mentioned it. That has to be worth something.

Perhaps the rank and file are a bit out of step with its leadership like most liberal institutions.


The AIPAC is supposed to be non-partisan, but the standing ovation during Trump's first comments about Obama leaving office tells the story. The AIPAC is just playing politics in case Hillary wins and to be able to claim to be non-partisan.

Trump didn't have to say that he'd fight Israel's wars for them, he just needed to let Israel and American Jews know that the US would still consider Israel a close ally under his watch and in that he succeeded.

Blogger Neanderserk March 22, 2016 5:56 PM  

Forcing the Jews to come home from exile is the worst thing one can do to parasitic Phariseeism. Priests do holiness; warriors do nations. This dogwhistled the hell out of insidious Judaism. Ultra-Judaism is anti-Israel.

Blogger Neanderserk March 22, 2016 5:59 PM  

Zionism is the final solution that ends Ashkenazic IQ via reversion to the mean and miscegenation. K or die. No appeal to higher authority; no one to lie to but each other. No state to help screw the majority except your own.

All it takes is a boat ticket, a handshake, and a "Good luck."

Blogger Neanderserk March 22, 2016 6:07 PM  

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Blogger Amateur Brain Surgeon March 22, 2016 6:07 PM  

Over four million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank can't vote but Israel is a democracy.

Right

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 22, 2016 6:07 PM  

Donald Trump yarmulkes are biggest seller at AIPAC conference

Blogger Neanderserk March 22, 2016 6:08 PM  

If you want AIPAC out of the US, first get the US out of the West Bank.

Israel has to attempt to lobby and subvert US government to prevent the Progressive Cathedral's desired South Africa outcome.

Trump's speech outlines the first step of disengagement. Once that's completed, the next step can occur.

Likewise, one must stop importing new Muslims before one deports the ones that area already here.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 22, 2016 6:27 PM  

@102, Hey, those 4 million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank got to vote! What was it, eleven years ago? It's standard Arab government - one man, one vote, one time.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 22, 2016 6:28 PM  

@102, Hey, those 4 million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank got to vote! What was it, eleven years ago? It's standard Arab government - one man, one vote, one time.

Anonymous cincinnatus March 22, 2016 6:32 PM  

Josh wrote:
Not really, they know he had to pander:

God-Emperor Trump has convinced white nationalists that pandering to Jews is good.

Truly, the man can work miracles.


He's like... reverse Hitler. Bizarro World Hitler that convinces people that it's okay to like Jews.

Which is somehow scary.


@73 Josh SciVo
Nah, just realpolitik. IIRC most far-right parties in Europe take a pro-Israel stance because of the Muzlerg.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 22, 2016 6:36 PM  

@102 Amateur Brain Surgeon:

Over four million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank can't vote but Israel is a democracy.

Those latecomers, no, but the ~1,658,000 "Arab citizens of Israel", 20% of the population, can and do, 17 are Members of the 120 seat Knesset (MKs), and 1 is a Supreme Court judge.

Heh, at the end of the Wikipedia article, it says they share the Jewish population's low opinion of the government, and trust in the IDF, the President and the Supreme Court; it would seem there are some universals, especially when it comes to politicians.

Blogger Curtis March 22, 2016 6:49 PM  

How about we NOT reward ANY-ONE country with our Federal Reserve Notes?

@94 Thumbs up.

State Dept + NATO + ISIS:

http://www.activistpost.com/?s=State+Dept+NATO+ISIS

https://www.google.com/search?q=State+Dept+NATO+ISIS&sitesearch=BlacklistedNews.com&gws_rd=ssl

http://www.zerohedge.com/search/apachesolr_search/State%20Dept.%20NATO%20ISIS

http://bit.ly/1Ry5Xli

Blogger Rusty Fife March 22, 2016 7:18 PM  

Probably the one good thing Obama has done is break the seal on the lip lock the USG has had on the Saudi's ass. Yes, it empowered Iran. But WTF are we doing involved in their inter-tribal bomb-vest olympics anyways?

Trump is right that Obama gave away the store to do it...but, IDK who else would have done it in the first place.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 22, 2016 7:22 PM  

SciVo wrote:I've noticed other people noticing Trump's concision and copying it, and you can really say a lot if you put your mind to it:

My favorite:
"The bag needs flour."

"You needn't have said 'The bag'".

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 22, 2016 7:35 PM  

"Probably the one good thing Obama has done is break the seal on the lip lock the USG has had on the Saudi's ass."

But the money continues to flood into the DC lobbyists and, to a lesser degree, the think tanks (most notably the Brookings Institute--no surprise there). Qatar is in a virtual bidding war with Saudi Arabia and UAE to prevail in the influence-peddling game. It's an unspeakably rotten betrayal of the US citizenry-who appear to be mostly unaware of their betrayal--that our government is totally bought.

Anonymous Quartermaster March 22, 2016 7:39 PM  

@57
Jerusalem is already the capital of Israel. There's nothing for Dispensationalists to get excited about. Also, there is nothing in scripture that places any importance on the capital being moved to Jerusalem. You're simply talking through your hat.

@67
There is no such prophecy.

@74
You're reaching. That's a millennial prophecy. During that period Jerusalem will not just be Israel's capital (as it already is), but the capital of the world as Christ is reigning there.

@75
My observation is most of the US Jewish elite hate Netanyahu. Bibi simply isn't their kind of self hating Jew.

@104
“...first get the US out of the West Bank.”

You're funny.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 22, 2016 7:41 PM  

Michael O'Duibhir wrote:But the money continues to flood into the DC lobbyists and, to a lesser degree, the think tanks (most notably the Brookings Institute--no surprise there).

I didn't say he had pryed the lips off yet...

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Blogger Lazarus March 22, 2016 8:04 PM  

Amateur Brain Surgeon wrote:Over four million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank can't vote but Israel is a democracy.

Right


waddya, nuts? Abbas, the guy he arabs voted for in the west bank, is currently in the tenth year of his 4 year term. That's democracy 24/7. Maybe you should get another surgeon.

Blogger David Power March 22, 2016 8:30 PM  


It sickens me that every US Presidential Candidate has to grovel at the feet of the Jew and I'm not even American.

For so many years now, American presidents of both parties have been staunchly committed to Israel and its security. This entrenched policy is an expression of the Jewish-Zionist grip on America's political and cultural life. It was fervent support for Israel - shared by President Bush, high-ranking administration officials and nearly the entire US Congress - that proved crucial in the decision to invade and subdue one of Israel's greatest regional enemies.

While the unprovoked US invasion of Iraq may have helped Israel, just as those who wanted and planned for the war had hoped, it has been a calamity for America and the world. It has cost many tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. Around the world, it has generated unmatched distrust and hostility toward the US. In Arab and Muslim countries, it has fueled intense hatred of the United States, and has brought many new recruits to the ranks of anti-American terrorists.

Americans have already paid a high price for their nation's commitment to Israel. And will pay an ever higher price - not just in dollars or international prestige, but in the lives of young men squandered for the interests of a foreign state - until the Jewish-Zionist hold on US political life is finally broken. And if America is to survive, broken it must be, because as many past societies found out, the Tribe is necrotrophic by its very nature.

Anonymous John Steed March 22, 2016 8:50 PM  

@40. Is that you Wheeler? I admit that I miss your `performing art` a little bit as Nate called it. @60. ``Amusingly, Bernie Sanders is the most hated.`` Of course he is as the Israelis are living(and dying)the life while he has been `sitting around the stove feasting and farting` all his life.

Blogger ray March 22, 2016 8:50 PM  

The most important Trump event to date -- reprinting the speech text was a good decision. This stuff is far more impactful than stage-rushers.

Both the text and choice of delivery were expertly done, and show that the Trump people are astute politically and capable tactically.

Only fools would allow their guy to address these issues extemporaneously. That's a guaranteed fail. When it comes to Israel, every word is weighed and the Trumpers didn't play with the fuse.

Trump's text covered every major issue, with a little something for almost everybody -- general inter-nation relations, the Iran nuke pact, Palestinian tactics, and the kicker, embassy shift to Jerusalem. Even gets in a shot at Hillary.

'We know that Israel is willing to deal' again, reinforces the assumption that the Israel/Palestinian or Israel/Muslim conflicts can (and should) be solved through 'deal making'. This is what the world wants to believe, and I can sure understand that. But it's not what God says in the Bible.

It was one of the most clever (or perhaps skillful) speeches I've ever read, suspending most contentious elements in animation, while holding the heat off for time being. Whatever the Trumpsters turn out to be, they are hip and will be formidable.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 22, 2016 8:59 PM  

Frustration. Trump gives with one hand and takes away with other.

Where is it documented that Iran is the "number one state sponsor of terrorism?"

Anonymous johnc March 22, 2016 9:10 PM  

@116 It sickens me that every US Presidential Candidate has to grovel at the feet of the Jew and I'm not even American.

Indeed. AIPAC is basically just a lobbyist group for a foreign country. The whole thing is ridiculous.

It's time to stop talking about voting for Trump and start talking about organizing a tax strike. That's the only way these dildos are going to get the message.

Blogger Josh March 22, 2016 9:11 PM  

It's time to stop talking about voting for Trump and start talking about organizing a tax strike.

You first

Blogger JimR March 22, 2016 9:13 PM  

@33 That site currently has

Hillary Clinton -200
Donald Trump +175
Bernie Sanders +1600
John Kasich +1800
Ted Cruz +2000

So does that mean Trump is the likeliest Republican candidate to win? cause that's what it appears to me to be saying.

Blogger ray March 22, 2016 9:20 PM  

'Since I didn't see it mentioned, it should be noted that the most popular presidential candidate in Israel...is Donald Trump. (Amusingly, Bernie Sanders is the most hated)'


If they despise Bernie, they can't be utto lost. Hello Israel he is cucking your heritage out, you get that, right?

Blogger Scott6584 March 22, 2016 9:30 PM  

cheddarman wrote:This proposal to move the capital to jerusalem will get the dispensational evagelicals excited, it is one of those end times critical events. Maybe Nate is secretly advising the Trump camp, as he has been silent last couple of days.

The American Embassy location doesn't have anything to do with Biblical prophecy. It's a non-event. It's the rebuilding of the Jewish temple that gets them excited, but I'm not sure they are interpreting the Bible properly there either.

I have studiously avoided most Eschatological subjects, but am familiar enough through relationships to assure you that other nations' embassy locations don't factor into interpreting end time prophecies.

Blogger Scott6584 March 22, 2016 9:36 PM  

Ron Winkleheimer wrote:Glenn Beck is really getting bat shit crazy.

Yep, was listening to him, briefly, a couple of days ago and apparently Trump is part of some sort of Russian, right-wing conspiracy to bring back fascism or something. I really couldn't follow it. But rest assured, Beck is on top of it. Then it went to commercial and I was assured by some old actor that I needed to buy some gold through "something capitol" and they wouldn't charge me an arm and a leg for facilitating the transaction.


Glenn Beck is Mormon. I think it's safe to say he doesn't represent Evangelical Christianity. It's also safe to say that Southern Baptist Ted Cruz doesn't endorse his religious rantings. But he'll take support from whomever wants to give it. After all, he's trying to win an election, and he's trailing badly. And the religious right does share some moral values with Mormons, although they sharply diverge on religious matters, and certainly on matters of prophecy.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY March 22, 2016 11:21 PM  

Cruz is no more a Baptist than I am a nigra.
His Dominionist Charismaniac and Moroni is baloney nutecase that is Glenny, nutsacz.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 22, 2016 11:26 PM  

Scott, today's Israel itself may or may not be of any eschatological importance.
The only thing for certain is that Christ will return.
If the hyper-dispensationalists are correct, they will find out that the type martyrdom that Christians experienced in the first 300 years, this time will be setup by their own doings and that the tribulation they fear is after they have experienced a level of suffering not expected.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 22, 2016 11:27 PM  

For Ray @118:
"But it's not what God says in the Bible."

What God said was in reference to the Hebrews, not the Khazars.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 22, 2016 11:29 PM  

Say it slowly ... moron I.

Kind of "oh wa tagoosse iam." You know, the swahili joke.

Blogger Austin Ballast March 23, 2016 12:42 AM  

So at least one of you admits to not really studying eschatology and yet you know some are most definitely wrong. Impressive.

I may be skeptical about a great many things, especially the ongoing nature, but I am not foolish enough to not believe what is written.

Blogger Ahazuerus March 23, 2016 4:38 AM  

None of the dispensationalists are correct. The concept is inherently flawed and was invented to derail the reformation. IOW, its flaws are its value to those who want to deflect the protestants from their identification of the man of sin who calls himself god.

Blogger ray March 23, 2016 4:48 AM  

"What God said was in reference to the Hebrews, not the Khazars."


Scripture makes it clear (closing passages of Joel 2) that the narrative temporal context is the 'latter days'. In Joel 3, God explains that both Judah and Israel are in type of spiritual and geophysical 'captivity'. The LORD says that the nations scattered his 'heritage' (his chosen or beloved persons). These nations 'parted my land' and followed-up by whoring out the sons and daughters of Israel. So, in the latter or last days, geophysical and political Israel will be divided, against God's wishes.

Even more than this, division of the land is administered by the king throughout Chapter 40 (and subsequent) in Ezekiel. In places the text into such detail as to enumerate the king's restrictions upon gift-giving (primarily of lands/inheritances) between a 'prince', his family, and the household servants! That's pretty intimate lordship over the land. Were the adjacent lands around Jerusalem not the King's, and only the King's, to divide, there'd be no need for Ezekiel's lengthy and concise testimony.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 23, 2016 9:17 AM  

Ray @132

Joel:
The name, Joel, signifies the "Lord God," (or, the "coming down of God") prophesied during the same time in the kingdom of Juda as Osee did in the kingdom of Israel. He foretells, the great evils that were coming upon the people for their sins, earnestly exhorts them to repentance, and comforts them with the promise of a teacher of justice, viz., Christ Jesus, our Lord, and of the coming down of his Holy Spirit upon the hundred and twenty faithful assembled in Sion. Acts 1, 15. and 2, 4. He describes the land of the twelve tribes made desolate, and the people cast off. Yet he speaks chiefly of the kingdom of Juda, and mentions the house of God, sacrifices, etc. St. Jerome infers from his being placed after Osee (without any new title) that he lived in that order of time. But Jonas lived before Amos, and the Septuagint does not specify the same disposition of the prophets as we do. Also, the exact time of the famine (when Joel prophesied) cannot be ascertained. It seems he addressed the people in autumn, when a second year's famine was afoot.
Ver. 28 From this verse to the end the prophet speaks of the times succeeding the captivity, especially of the propagation of the gospel. The enemies of God's people shall be destroyed, (3, 1.) which seems to refer to Cambyses, (Ezechiel 38). As for "My spirit," This plainly foretells the coming of the Holy Ghost, Acts 2. The Jews never had such a multitude of prophets after the captivity as the Catholic Church had, 1 Corinthians 14, 24. What relates to them was only a shadow of what would befall true believers--i.e., those who enter into his Holy Church.

Ezechiel:
Ver. 32. As for the admonition that they "Call," amid these fears, those who trust in the Lord shall have nothing to suffer. Cambyses could not execute his designs. But the prophet here alludes still more to the conversion of the Gentiles, Acts 2, 21., and Romans 10, 13. Some returned from Babylon, as a figure of this great event. Only a few Jews embraced the faith. Salvation. Septuagint, "shall be saved, as the Lord hath spoken, and the person preaching the gospel, whom the Lord hath called."
The key must be supplied in Hebrew. The Idumeans had been spared for a long time. But they shall not escape. The rites of the law could not purify, as the sacraments of Christ's Holy Church do. God will cleanse his people, and will chastise the Ammonites, etc., who had injured them. Septuagint, "I will seek (or avenge) their blood, and will not pronounce innocent;" Sion, in heaven, and in the tabernacles of the Catholic Church, from the beginning of the world unto eternity.
Month; April 30, the year of the world 3430. In explaining this last most obscure vision, the Jews say it was verified after the captivity. But thus the temple would be 4 miles round, and the city 36. Hence more modern Jews assert it will be fulfilled by the Messias who, according to them, has not come yet. Rejecting these errors, some suppose that the promise was conditional, and that the sins of the Jews prevented the city and temple from being so large; and that the mystical temple of the Church is also insinuated, into which both Jews and Gentiles shall enter. It seems better to follow St. Jerome, St. Gregory, and others, who cannot apply all to the Old Testament, nor think that such a huge temple and city were indeed promised, but explain some parts of the captives at their return, as a figure of those redeemed by Christ, and brought into his Holy Catholic Church which is adorned with all graces. Yet the greatest part must be understood of the Church triumphant.

Blogger doo-wop March 23, 2016 10:57 AM  

YIH wrote:Guitar Man:

WN's are triggered

Not really, they know he had to pander:

So the options are:

a) call out the Jews, have zero chance of winning, and

b) say nice things about Israel, and have a shot at getting in.

The pandering doesn’t have anything to do with Jews as voters. None of them are going to vote for him anyway. And besides, they are only 2% of the population, and the majority of those are liberal Democrats anyway.

The pandering is purely for the evangelical vote.

And there just isn’t any way around it.


This. He wasn't even pandering to Jews, he was pandering to retarded cuckservatives that worship Jews. It also made AIPAC look patently ridiculous by pretending that the President is a sacred office in the United States. That decision was made when Washington took office and declined to be called "your Majesty."

In addition, if we're lucky, we might get a nice D&C going between everyday working Jews and the elite Jewish establishment. The Jews in attendance seemed to like Trump's speech, even though AIPAC staff hated it.

Blogger ray March 23, 2016 3:34 PM  

#134 -- The Catholic Church has no prophets of the LORD. Not the way you mean, that is.

I do not follow 'St. Jerome, St. Gregory and others', nor do I recognize any authority in these persons, nor in rituals and doctrines created by men. I follow King Jeshua and I support his OT prophets. Period. Following them is not an intellectual exercise.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 23, 2016 4:17 PM  

Ray, if you're of western European descent then until the 16th century, at least, ALL of your ancestors were Catholics. Some of them were undoubtedly devout Catholics. Are they all in hell, Ray? The fact is, Ray, at one time in history there was only one Christian denomination--the Catholic Church. Aside from the relatively tiny number of degenerates who peopled the various heretical sects, the Waldenses, Cathars, etc., everyone who was a Christian was a Catholic. Even the heretical sects retained substantial tenets of the Catholic Church. At this point some (like you, no doubt) would discount this as unimportant because there were always "believers" who did not "recognize any authority in these persons, nor [sic] in rituals and doctrines created by men." Your "religion" stems from the 16th century at the earliest. So, Ray, is this when the true religion of Christ began? Did God for some reason allow an imposter religion to flourish for fifteen hundred years--1500 YEARS!--before permitting His "true believers" to manifest themselves to the world? Do you give credence to the historical record, Ray. If so, why does that record mention the Catholic Church as the Church of Christ on earth? Did the Catholics destroy all records of activity of "believers" such as yourself? And I presume that you would adhere to the doctrine (created by men) of sola scriptura. Where in the Bible can I find that teaching?

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