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Thursday, March 10, 2016

Even the half-Swedes are scared

Paul Joseph Watson receives a letter from Sweden:
I am a 16 year old half Swedish, half Turkish girl living in the municipality that has taken in the most refugees in whole of Sweden. I believe in no god, have never adopted any of the muslim values forced on children during my time in Turkey nor have I opened my heart to all the lovable rapists that Sweden imports daily. I also don’t blame each failure throughout my short span of life on the evil patriarchy as so many of my self proclaimed feminist piers do. So as you can probably see, I have been the only sane person in the three societies I have lived in (U.K, Sweden and Turkey), and never truly fit in in neither of them. I’m glad I don’t.

While living in Turkey I experienced real sexism, real racism (against Kurds mainly, but also myself for refusing to start my school day with a vow claiming that the "Turk is righteous, the Turk is proud") and real inequality taught as normal. I know what it is, but I’ve just been too blind to see it.

Since I’m currently living in Sweden, I wanted to tell you about just how fucked up it is. This month I had a revelation, mostly thanks to your videos and my CIS gendered white male father (GASP) who shares opinions with you quite frequently as I have noticed.

Up till this date I was the model Swedish girl. Only last year I went to a `Refugees Welcome` rally in my nearest town, and accused everyone who thought letting refugees in would have consequences as nazis. I was blind, deluded and let the thought of love and false equality drive me to a state of false acceptance/tolerance. If I were eligible to vote, I would have voted for Fi! (Feministic Initiative). Exactly as the Swedish media wants me to.

I think my highly racist, misogynistic thoughts appeared first when several women where raped in Kalmar, where I go to school. I’m sure you have heard of it already. While us Swedes should be sticking up to the women who were TOO AFRAID TO TELL THE POLICE THEIR RAPISTS WERE MIGRANTS, we have instead embraced all the innocent refugees who didn’t commit a crime. Instead of standing beside the women that were raped, we stood with the migrants who did nothing at all. Or they might have raped, there is no way to show. The day after, the newspapers were bombarded by young female journalists making this a problem of feminism and not culture. The cultural marxism was dripping off each word I read, whereas this young, Swedish girl just like myself was writing that we need to educate half of the human population to not rape. That she was just as likely to get raped by a Swede as by a muslim migrant (who has never faced consequences for rape where he comes from).

I was so scared, you know. Because if I were to publicly talk about the rapes, and if I were to notice the fact that the rapists were migrants and that we can possibly not turn a blind eye to that women face this kind of abuse DAILY in the rapists’ country of origin, I’d be shunned. To just as little as to notice this is what I identify as real, necessary feminism. But when I opened up to this with a close friend, it turned out to be the last time I ever even got to talk to her. Because she is the perfect Swedish girl too.

What I have realised is that we Swedes have become so ridiculously coward, overly sensitive and politically correct that there is no freedom of speech left. Whatsoever.
There are several interesting things to note there. First, even those most inclined to swallow the bullshit can't do it anymore. They've reached the earliest possible breaking point, which is when everyone ceases to believe, but doesn't realize that everyone else is just pretending.

Second, she's still clinging to "real, necessary feminism" even though she's figured out that the feminism she'd been taught was nonsense. This is why you NEVER permit converts or immigrants in positions of leadership. Despite their fervor, they do not truly get it. If allowed to lead, they will immediately steer the ship onto the shoals of moderatism.

Third, note that as a half-breed, she is aware she doesn't genuinely fit into either nation. This is what the Proposition Nation people can't seem to grasp. Nation is family is blood. Genetics are far more complicated than we understand, they are far more significant than most of us are willing to admit, and they are ignored at everyone's peril.

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Anonymous The other robot March 10, 2016 11:39 AM  

self proclaimed feminist piers

Some of them are as broad as a pier as well.

Is it those who already do not fit in who will notice that emperor has no clothes the earliest?

Blogger Escoffier March 10, 2016 11:41 AM  

Since the Hoyt affair I've spent some time thinking about and to me there are two issues at play.

First there are some who will never be assimilated (Muslims) and should simply be kept out of your society at all costs.

Second are those who could be of benefit. Who very well might assimilate, even here it seems obvious to me that it cannot be unlimited or you destroy the host nation.

But how to determine that number?

Blogger VD March 10, 2016 11:44 AM  


Second are those who could be of benefit. Who very well might assimilate, even here it seems obvious to me that it cannot be unlimited or you destroy the host nation.


These are very few and far between. The problem is that even the smart, successful ones are just as likely to be predatory as beneficial.

Blogger CM March 10, 2016 11:47 AM  

if I were to notice the fact that the rapists were migrants and that we can possibly not turn a blind eye to that women face this kind of abuse DAILY in the rapists’ country of origin, I’d be shunned

She may not be a True European, but I'd rather listen to her talk about teaching rapists not to rape then listen to a True Swede who is to cowardly to call a rapist a rapist.

Anonymous NateM March 10, 2016 11:48 AM  

"Feminist Piers"

If longshoremen empty their load onto them, it's rape

Blogger Escoffier March 10, 2016 11:49 AM  

These are very few and far between. The problem is that even the smart, successful ones are just as likely to be predatory as beneficial.

Im not uncomfortable saying the number could be zero. I guess my question is if it's above zero how do you determine what's best for the host nation?

Anonymous The other robot March 10, 2016 11:50 AM  

These are very few and far between. The problem is that even the smart, successful ones are just as likely to be predatory as beneficial.

Yes, it would seem so. I am an immigrant of English extraction (not born in the UK) and I identify strongly with many/most of what I know were the founders' aims.

However, I also talk to a lot of Asians, including Indians, and while they are much less violent than blacks they still think strongly in terms of their race and their home country, as do Mexicans. That is, they identify as Chinese, Mexicans or Indians.

I have met quite a few Chinese who are into the second amendment but have not been able to ascertain their real attitudes, however.

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 11:54 AM  

self proclaimed feminist piers..Some of them are as broad as a pier as well.

She lived in the UK maybe she meet some of the Feminists from Whales.

Second are those who could be of benefit

It has to be a net benefit. A premi illegal alien anchor baby that didn't get any pre natal care leaves the hospital out over $250,000 to got on benefits for at least 18 years. He would have to be smarter than Einstein being productive for decades to positively contribute.

Blogger CM March 10, 2016 11:54 AM  

But how to determine that number?

You'd be racist to try and figure it out.

Isn't it something like 5% of the host population?

The numbers in Germany sound so small to my American mind. I have to remember G is far smaller than the US. Villages of 300 population being saddled with 100 refugees was perhaps the most enlightening. Those villages would have, at most, been able to tolerate 2 average sized families, but given how small a village like that would be, 1 family would be better for assimilating.

Anonymous drnick March 10, 2016 11:55 AM  

If you asked her why she doesn't fit in with her societies, it would have far more to do with cultural Marxism than anything else. The fact she is an atheist would give her more trouble in North America than her race, though it would hardly leave her without friends in a major urban area. Yeah, she wouldn't get along with rural conservatives, but I don't expect that's her type anyways. In Europe, every indication is that atheism matters less than blood.

She's a woman who genuinely despises Islamic culture. She'd probably do well with a Swede who believes in intermarriage but dislikes Islam. The question is, are there a large number of those? You hang out on the Internet long enough and you take the idea for granted, but I'd say at least half the Sad Puppies would enthusiastically agree.

Blogger Dexter March 10, 2016 12:01 PM  

The problem is that even the smart, successful ones are just as likely to be predatory as beneficial.

Indeed, a certain immigrant group that is smart and successful - wherever it has gone - has worked energetically to subvert and destroy its host nation - wherever it has gone.

Blogger Chiva March 10, 2016 12:03 PM  

What I have realised is that we Swedes have become so ridiculously coward, overly sensitive and politically correct that there is no freedom of speech left. Whatsoever.

“We have made men proud of most vices, but not of cowardice. Whenever we have almost succeeded in doing so, God permits a war or an earthquake or some other calamity, and at once courage becomes so obviously lovely and important even in human eyes that all our work is undone, and there is still at least one vice of which they feel genuine shame. The danger of inducing cowardice in our patients, therefore, is lest we produce real self-knowledge and self-loathing, with consequent repentance and humility.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 10, 2016 12:03 PM  

The West is the Jim Jones cult writ large and dare I say cracks are showing in the narrative. His most devoted followers were his white women, go figure

Blogger tz March 10, 2016 12:04 PM  

You get piers when the bridge can't be finished or is destroyed. Feminists aren't bridge builders.

"Even the smart ones". Molyneux points out IQ reverts to the mean, so the Iran escapee doctors' children are unlikely to be as smart, if you believe in genetics.


Nation is blood. Would you be willing to spill yours? For those who aren't your genetic kin? That is the critical question. It is the one featured in chapter 2 of Lewis' Abolition of Man. Would the "we are real Americans" fight and kill and die in a war against their original homeland?

Blogger Jew613 March 10, 2016 12:05 PM  

So what is to be done with girls like this? She's not Swedish, she's not a turk.

This letter also reinforces what I've long believed societies will recover from feminism and the invasion as soon as women start to see both as hurting female interests.

OpenID luciussomesuch March 10, 2016 12:12 PM  

"Those villages would have, at most, been able to tolerate 2 average sized families, but given how small a village like that would be, 1 family would be better for assimilating."

--One Muslim family per village is a nightmare from Hell. Assimilate the brown village idiots? You don't poison a gene pool deliberately.

" She'd probably do well with a Swede who believes in intermarriage but dislikes Islam. The question is, are there a large number of those? You hang out on the Internet long enough and you take the idea for granted, but I'd say at least half the Sad Puppies would enthusiastically agree."

--is that a Brad Torgersen type of thing? I mean, this anti-"refugee" atheist Turko-Swede sixteen-year old probably sounds like some guys' wet dream (Niall Ferguson, are you ready to trade up?) but she's probably both mentally and physically a hot mess at best, and she ain't Swedish.

Blogger tz March 10, 2016 12:12 PM  

Smart ones ... might assimilate.

You had the Jewish ghettos and Chinatowns. Assimilation takes two or more generations when all your neighbors and associates are homogeneous. It doesn't happen when you can form an enclave. One muslim family in a town without a Mosque, maybe. Instead they have Sharia villages within or co-located with natives. That won't last much longer.

Blogger tz March 10, 2016 12:14 PM  

@16 - as long as the nightmare is the Muslims'. It needs to be assimilate or die out.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 10, 2016 12:15 PM  

Donald Trump is like the congressman who flew in and inadvertently put a stop to the cult by asking if anyone wanted to go home and leave Jonestown behind. Hope he has a better ending though, but we are dealing with religious nuts unbound by any ethics I know

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 10, 2016 12:24 PM  

Why is it our responsibility to figure out which of these Muslim refugees is smart and successful?

OpenID luciussomesuch March 10, 2016 12:25 PM  

"One muslim family in a town without a Mosque, maybe. Instead they have Sharia villages within or co-located with natives. . . . as long as the nightmare is the Muslims'. It needs to be assimilate or die out."

--You may not disagree with me on this, but in principle I can find no rationale for the acceptance of ANY Muslim (or other!) immigration into Europe. In an American context I'm willing to countenance calling 90% white people White and move on (as this is, for a good number of people, baked in the cake as it were); but in Europe, where these "immigrants" have no place, where their claims upon the hospitality of their hosts are mere presumptuousness, and where their "assimilation" can only mean the uglification and dumbification of an exquisite race, I insist that one family is too many.

Lone little Ahmed is still gonna smell like crap, look ugly, be stupid, and pull the blonde girls' hair. To hell with him and his kind. They've got their stupid Araby, if they can keep it. "Europe belongs to us!"

Anonymous drnick March 10, 2016 12:26 PM  

Smart and successful matters, and it's as obvious as socio-sexual rank: people know what success looks like. But it's not nearly as important as loyalty.

As a rule, Muslim rapists = not loyal, and the same goes for their apologists.

Anonymous Crank March 10, 2016 12:27 PM  

"but doesn't realize that everyone else is just pretending."

Not sure everyone else is just pretending at this point, as the actions of her "friend" would demonstrate.

Nonetheless, I agree that many are, and a "preference cascade" is likely coming. Hope that's not just wishful thinking.

Blogger Salt March 10, 2016 12:29 PM  

tz wrote:Smart ones ... might assimilate.



Smart ones would have chucked the prayer rugs and converted to Christianity.

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 10, 2016 12:30 PM  

"Second are those who could be of benefit. Who very well might assimilate, even here it seems obvious to me that it cannot be unlimited or you destroy the host nation."

Unlikely unless you are in some bizarre situation that generally doesn't exist in the modern developed world - a frontier that needs populating, a work force destroyed by war, etc. Otherwise, the benefits of social cohesion will always outweigh whatever trivial short-term benefits are obtained by admitting one foreigner with a high IQ, technical skills, physically fitness or other traits that make him superior to an average native. Simply assimilating foreign spouses probably tests the limits of what is desirable in most nations.

Anonymous Cassie March 10, 2016 12:33 PM  

This is what the Proposition Nation people can't seem to grasp. Nation is family is blood.

I think that for individualists, the idea that they cannot ever become something they desire to be is anathema. It's not enough for them to assimilate as best they can and hope that their great-etc. grandchildren will be fully assimilated into the host nation and indistinguishable from their native-for-30-generations peers.

A "proposition nation" is a voluntary association, like a religious order. Since America does not strip people of citizenship and kick them out for failure to adhere to the "proposition" (however defined) then it isn't accurate to describe the United States, much less the nations within it, in that way.

OpenID denektenorsk March 10, 2016 12:34 PM  

Second are those who could be of benefit. Who very well might assimilate, even here it seems obvious to me that it cannot be unlimited or you destroy the host nation.

These are very few and far between. The problem is that even the smart, successful ones are just as likely to be predatory as beneficial.


I am, in many regards a highly desirable immigrant. I'm educated, reasonably intelligent and have a lot of experience in the tech field and would support myself and my family.

I'd make every attempt to assimilate into the local culture. If I moved overseas I'd make every attempt to learn the local language. I'm also the first one to admit that I truly don't get a lot of American (or British, or Danish, etc.) culture. It is neither right nor wrong to me, it's just different.

Now to the potential downside for you. I would be an economic predator. I would save my cash and repatriot as much of it as I possibly could with me in my retirement. I would try my best to limit how much of MY CASH the Canadian government tries to steal when I repatriot. I would not buy a house depending on the market (in the wrong market they are an opportunity cost compared to what the same sum can do in the stock market at even moderate risk). Houses are anchors if/when you have to move on to a new economic opportunity. My ultimate desire is to retire back home and take my shekels with me. Then I build the house....

My economic activity would be taxed while in your land, but I'd also be pulling money out of the local economy in the long term. On the flip side I would not retire in your land and suck at the public tit either. Arguably the elderly are the most expensive tax users in a sane country that doesn't dump billions of tax dollars on economic migrants.

If one were inclined to run the math would I be a net-positive to the economy? I don't know. Would I be able to assimilate to a desirable degree? I don't know, personally my heart lies elsewhere.

The government would be FAR better off encouraging children among the local populace with tax incentives (if required) and spending the money they currently spend on housing/feeding/clothing migrants to train their own population. I fail to see what skills migrants bring with that cannot be home grown. I think that would cost a lot less and wouldn't destroy social cohesion. Therein may be the real reason the current policies are in place.

Blogger Dexter March 10, 2016 12:35 PM  

Why is it our responsibility to figure out which of these Muslim refugees is smart and successful?

It is immoral and racist for Sweden to deprive Syria of its smart and successful people, who should stay in Syria and make Syria better.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 10, 2016 12:35 PM  

Ten million dollars payable in gold to the United States.
Price for admission.
That's how you determine who's a value.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 12:37 PM  

@2

It's context dependent. You start by asking "Do we need/want any immigrants right now?" If the answer is "yes", then you start asking how many and what kind (country of origin, religion, level of education, etc).

Even if X number of "smart and successful" immigrants would be beneficial, that doesn't necessarily mean you want them at the present time.

Blogger bob k. mando March 10, 2016 12:37 PM  

6. Escoffier March 10, 2016 11:49 AM
I guess my question is if it's above zero how do you determine what's best for the host nation?



oh, i dunno.

actually follow the law when the populace enacts a moratorium on immigration?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

immigration restriction has a much longer American history than Sarah Hayt has been "born American".

of course, we all that allowing the American people to write and enact their own laws is just crazy talk.

that's why we have JUDGES, to rein these stupid, mouth breathing hicks in.


you know, sainted Abe Lincoln was in favor of high tariffs and trade restrictions. why can't the Republican party 'conserve' that part of their heritage ... ?

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 12:42 PM  

Simply assimilating foreign spouses probably tests the limits of what is desirable in most nations.
I'm not much at the social/sexual analysis, but I think it depends on whether the mother or father is the foreigner. It might be more acceptable for foreign fathers, joining the tribe, to produce offspring with native women. As opposed to native men bringing in foreign women - who are in some sense a burden - to produce inferior children.

OpenID denektenorsk March 10, 2016 12:47 PM  

This is what the Proposition Nation people can't seem to grasp. Nation is family is blood.

A propositional nation may be possible. It would (like any organization) have to be ruthlessly purged of undesirable elements (i.e. wrong think) otherwise it won't remain a nation based on the same proposition for very long.

If you think about how a successful business is run (versus a business run by endless committes) they have a very strong and clear mission statement (and usually a very strong personality at the top). Anything that diverts from that cannot be tolerated or the employees subvert the very reason the business exists in the first place. HR are extremely competent at this for some reason... ;).

It is for this reason that I believe that post-modern secular nations will not remain secular for very long. At best we will replace one religion with another. If you truly want to be secular you must purge all religions. "You" may not believe in a god, but the people who pray on a daily basis certainly do and they will be factoring him into their decisions.

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 12:51 PM  

OT: The land that kills old people with the Liverpool Care Plan is now in the baby organ harvesting business. "NHS to ‘support’ women to carry babies to term for organ donation
Read more at http://www.trunews.com/pregnant-women/#ASST4lGVW6wAKEsj.99

"National Health Service (NHS), the publically funded healthcare system in the U.K. is proposing that women be “supported” to carry the child to term for the sole purpose of harvesting the baby’s organs. There is currently a shortage of donated organs, according to The Express. The mother could choose not to have their child’s organs removed by choosing abortion instead if tests during pregnancy determined the baby may have a birth defect"

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 10, 2016 12:54 PM  

Most Swiss cannot name the President of the Helvetican Confederation. Some parts of CH are very Protestant, others very Catholic. Four languages are official and English is a fifth that is very common. Apparently the cantonal based nation has something going for it, since it is one of the oldest Republics on the planet.

Question: Is the Helvetican Confederation a propositional nation? Or is it a blood-and-soil nation? Or something else?

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 12:54 PM  

Nation is family is blood.
I've found it very interesting to watch the slide in Canada from shared country to multicultural country to... well, globalist something. Humanism? Anthro-ponic farm?

So in the 90's, a Jon Ralston Saul might talk about Canada as being more culturally "Native" (indian) than European. It wasn't a big deal to identify Metis (usually french-indian) as a group within Canada. But within two decades, it went from the dogma that there weren't good distinctions between groups (English, French, Native, Mixed) to the dogma that Canada is an "everyone from everywhere" nation.

The Canadian PM Trudeau spoke beside Obama today. He used French, as well as English. He and other Canadian politicians often will, even when there's no connection to Paris. I wonder how long before the American President gives his speeches in both English and Spanish?

Marco Rubio pulled that shit at one of the GOP debates.

Change happens fast.

Anonymous Mr. Rational March 10, 2016 12:57 PM  

Jew613 wrote:So what is to be done with girls like this? She's not Swedish, she's not a turk.
If she wants children, provide donor eggs for free.  Preferably from some close relative of her father's.  Leave the Turkish genes in Turkey.

If she was really on-board with this, she'd volunteer to have her own tubes tied.

OpenID luciussomesuch March 10, 2016 12:57 PM  

"It might be more acceptable for foreign fathers, joining the tribe, to produce offspring with native women. As opposed to native men bringing in foreign women - who are in some sense a burden - to produce inferior children."

--duh f**k?

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 12:57 PM  

Sincere question from an opponent who is genuinely interested in understanding you alt-righters: why the constant, generally ot, remarks about feminists being fat? It's the case,as rule. I mean, Americans in general are fat, so, obviously, fat American feminists exist. But, clearly, conservatives are the fattest. You lot, with your obsession with lifting, might be distinct from conservatives in that way, but seeing Trump rallies, kkk rallies, those wildlife sanctuary occupiers, etc on tv, I'm inclined to believe you're a pretty heavy bunch. Progressives are generally slim, all the food snobbery, yoga and such. I live in a stereotypical lefty enclave and I don't see fat people. So, this constant harping on fat feminists...projection, sour grapes, or what?

Anonymous Philalethes March 10, 2016 1:01 PM  

Most Swiss cannot name the President of the Helvetican Confederation.

Who is, last I heard, a Jewish woman...

Switzerland died in 1971; now it's just a matter of time.

Blogger Clint March 10, 2016 1:01 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Why is it our responsibility to figure out which of these Muslim refugees is smart and successful?

You know... we could have cage matches and or spelling bees (whatever floats your boat, in that regard) with the winner getting a chance to interview for a visa.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 10, 2016 1:04 PM  

It might be more acceptable for foreign fathers, joining the tribe, to produce offspring with native women. As opposed to native men bringing in foreign women - who are in some sense a burden - to produce inferior children.

Uh..nah. If you understand women, you know that they will adapt quicker in such a situation. Consider it a kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

Philaethes, what the cantons gave in the 1970's they can take back. That doesn't answer the question, though: is the CH a propositional nation or something else?

Blogger kmbr March 10, 2016 1:11 PM  

There are two Swedens and if you live there you feel it very much.

There is the true ethnic Sweden for the Swedes. You can to some extent buy your way into this but you'll never, really, really fit in or understand it. This is the boat owning, summer house on the archipelago, traditional Sweden.

Then there is everyone else.

Unfortunately "everyone else" is getting really, really big and hard to ignore. Ignoring it what they have been doing for decades.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 1:12 PM  

Re 39,

What's the perimeter made of, Swiss cheese?

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 1:16 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents
Uh..nah. If you understand women, you know that they will adapt quicker in such a situation. Consider it a kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

Oh, I didn't mean the women would or wouldn't like it. I meant socially, as far as the family and resulting children go on to integrate. In the theme of "Genetics are far more complicated than we understand, they are far more significant than most of us are willing to admit, and they are ignored at everyone's peril." I was just trying to sort mixed children into more useful categories.

And obviously I'm talking about a default white-something society.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 10, 2016 1:16 PM  

" but I think it depends on whether the mother or father is the foreigner."

Historically females were the spoils of war. You protected your own and tried to capture them from your enemy. Foreign males are the invader, you kill them or castrate them and make them slaves.

Blogger kmbr March 10, 2016 1:16 PM  

@39

Alt-right and conservativeTM are not interchangeable.

Anonymous Goodnight March 10, 2016 1:19 PM  

Question: Is the Helvetican Confederation a propositional nation? Or is it a blood-and-soil nation? Or something else?

About 10 years ago I had a long conversation with a Swiss businessman while traveling in Asia. He went out of his way several times to point out that he was an Appenzeller.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 1:20 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Question: Is the Helvetican Confederation a propositional nation? Or is it a blood-and-soil nation? Or something else?

It is, or was until recently a confederation, that, an group of culturally similar tribes allied for mutual defense and law enforcement.
Since women got the vote, the balance has been shifting more to a federalist system.

Blogger VD March 10, 2016 1:26 PM  

Who is, last I heard, a Jewish woman...

That would no doubt surprise Johann Schneider-Ammann, a Swiss-German man.

Anonymous Philalethes March 10, 2016 1:26 PM  

Philalethes, what the cantons gave in the 1970's they can take back.

But will they? Or can they? I don't know the situation in detail, but found this sentence in the Wikipedia article interesting: "In 1991 following a decision by the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland, Appenzell Innerrhoden became the last Swiss canton to grant women the vote on local issues." "Equality" imposed from above; sound familiar?

Also: "On September 22, 2010, the Federal Council changed to a female majority with the addition of Simonetta Sommaruga. Micheline Calmy-Rey was elected President of the Confederation in 2011." It's called entryism; let them in and they will eventually take over.

Actually, it was a while ago I noticed that the President was a Jewish woman, when I saw an article about her visiting Moscow for talks with the Russians; that was probably Ruth Dreifuss, who was "the second female member [of the Federal Council] … and was the first president of the Swiss Confederation in 1999." They didn't have a president before? Interesting.

That doesn't answer the question, though: is the CH a propositional nation or something else?

Wasn't it originally a federation of blood-based nations (mountain peoples are notoriously feisty about their independence), carefully banded together for mutual defense? Having given women the vote, I'd expect to see it gradually devolve into a mini-empire controlled from the Center – as the above quote would seem to indicate.

Again, I haven't been following it carefully, but have the impression that Switzerland is gradually being drawn into the EU – though that development may be aborted by the EU's possible collapse.

Anonymous MendoScot March 10, 2016 1:29 PM  

A half-Swedish, half-Turkish girl who writes in colloquial English?

Colo(u)r me sc(k)eptical.

Anonymous drnick March 10, 2016 1:31 PM  


The Canadian PM Trudeau spoke beside Obama today. He used French, as well as English. He and other Canadian politicians often will, even when there's no connection to Paris.


Every major Canadian politician does that. It's been centuries since the country was colonized, and there is still a sizable French Canadian minority that dominates one of the largest provinces. A century ago you could have said Canada is "European," but that's about the time the Quebecois were rioting over conscription.

What Canada is now? Yeah, I think globalist nation is actually apt. The agenda is set by the establishment in a large urban center, and non-fringe conservative politicians (Harper/ Ford) accept the basic tenets of globalist society. It's less indebted than the US and has had better economic performance for eight years, though under the circumstances that's not saying much.

If Trump ended up driving a substantial portion of American liberals north, it would be a more humane solution than many alternatives.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 1:32 PM  

knbr, yes, I know. That's why I said that you might be distinct in that way, meaning that might be one of the differences. And, yes, unlike conservatives, you all seem to talk about diets and working out all the time, but, then, so do a lot of chubby folks. Anyway, why the weird, mostly inaccurate, obsession with feminists as fatties? It would make more sense to harp on that whenever you're moaning about conservatives (I won't use the term preferred here. Not because I find it offensive, but because it's painfully witless.)

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 1:34 PM  

Christ Mallory
Historically females were the spoils of war. You protected your own and tried to capture them from your enemy. Foreign males are the invader, you kill them or castrate them and make them slaves.
Except we're not talking about that world.

We're talking about this european thing where outsiders to the tribe are respected based on their cooperation and productive capacities. Western immigration policy is an extension of that. We're not warlords and raiders accumulating women as spoils.

What we have is a certain kind of society. And now we have low status men stepping outside it, taking a low tier woman, and trading his (overgenerous) share of (egalitarian society's) wealth for her (inferior) womb.

By contrast, the foreign man that arrives by daylight and earns his high status place in our society? He's going to seek a high status female in ours and if settles for a lower status one, he's still adding talent to our gene pool - And providing for his children.

A formal welfare state and mandatory indifference to outsider status are wrecking that, but I think there's going to be a difference between outsidermom-insiderdad and insidermom-outsiderdad mixed children.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 10, 2016 1:41 PM  

"Except we're not talking about that world."

It is still that world. You are naive if you think otherwise.

Blogger CM March 10, 2016 1:41 PM  

@White Devil,

I meant socially, as far as the family and resulting children go on to integrate.

You give women far too much credit. Geneticaly, children have more dna of their father in them, bearing children leaves parts of the dna behind in the mother (literally sharing dna w her husband at that point) and research suggests that, as long as the father is present, his values and beliefs carry more weight on the future values and beliefs of his children.

Its almost like God knew what he was doing when he instructed the order of marriage to be a woman leaving her family and becoming part of the man's...

Blogger kmbr March 10, 2016 1:42 PM  

@54. Gotcha, I am triple tasking here and I am gonna stop cuz I am not doing a very good job of it.

I am not an alt-right spokesperson by any means but my take is the alt-right very much sees obesity as a symptom of the degeneracy and lack of standards that plague society.

My hunch is over all we are a pretty fit bunch, it is a self pride thing.

Blogger Mark March 10, 2016 1:42 PM  

While this sounds plausible, this is an anonymous email to an Infowars editor. Why should I believe there's a real person on the other end of that email, or that it's true?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 1:43 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Anyway, why the weird, mostly inaccurate, obsession with feminists as fatties?

Fat feminist doesn't like it when you guise call feminists fatties.
Cuckservative fat feminist doesn't like when you guys call cuckservatives cuckservative.

"Stop talking bad about her! There's nothing wrong with being a fat feminist cuckservative! Leave feminists alone!"

And she's ugly.

Anonymous 5343 March 10, 2016 1:45 PM  

When you have real unemployment in excess of 10%, you don't need any immigrants at all. That should be the first consideration.

Anonymous Fran March 10, 2016 1:45 PM  

@43 I saw a video on youtube where some working class swedes were rolling through an affluent Swedish neighborhood wile blasting Muslim prayers from their van. The people were coming out to complain and the guys told them they were just giving them a sample of what they are imposing on them.

Anonymous BluePony March 10, 2016 1:47 PM  

You know, say whatever you like about immigration or blood or whatnot, but I'd happily take this girl in exchange for any 10 US born SJWs with roots dating back to the Mayflower.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean March 10, 2016 1:47 PM  

@53What Canada is now?

A global utopia, don't you know.

Blogger bob k. mando March 10, 2016 1:48 PM  

51. Philalethes March 10, 2016 1:26 PM
They didn't have a president before? Interesting.



sloppy translation or incompetent reporter, take your pick. Dreifuss was the first woman president, there were 150 presidential terms before her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_Swiss_Confederation

it's easy to lose track of Swiss presidents because they serve single year terms and only the very first one appears to have served consecutive terms.

Anonymous VFM #6306 March 10, 2016 1:49 PM  

There is a difference between assimilation and being a chameleon. To assimilate means to dilligently curry favor with the majority natives. Chameleon is for those who prefer to blend in and be seen by natives as a useful ally.

Blogger FALPhil March 10, 2016 1:54 PM  

Question: Is the Helvetican Confederation a propositional nation? Or is it a blood-and-soil nation? Or something else?

I think you answered your own question in the first post. It is 4 nations related by a country.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Karte_Schweizer_Sprachgebiete_2015.png/1024px-Karte_Schweizer_Sprachgebiete_2015.png

Anonymous LurkingPuppy March 10, 2016 1:56 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Anyway, why the weird, mostly inaccurate, obsession with feminists as fatties?

Because the completely, totally bat-guano insane pedo-apologist feminists in SF are almost all morbidly obese. (Not all feminists, not even all the ‘lesbian’ ones, are obsessed with bicycling.)

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner March 10, 2016 1:56 PM  

Violet why the constant, generally ot, remarks about feminists being fat?

I have stated that I don't think RU BI O is gay/bi as Cuban gays in Miami wouldn't have a double chin thanks to all the cocaine. But even the Fed govt wants to know why feminists are so fat, as if not being able to get something desirable leaves you with bad options.

Leftists source http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/lesbian-obesity-medical-study_n_2868391.html

Those fat lesbians (all feminists) take out their rage at having to date other fat lesbian feminists as domestic violence. http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/04/2-studies-prove-domestic-violence-lgbt-issue

inclined to believe you're a pretty heavy bunch. Can you tell the difference between big strong burly men and fat?

Progressives are generally slim, all the heroin/meth/cocaine, vegetarians that have trouble opening their car trunks, & gyms that have all you can eat pizza while banning heavy weights.

The heroin and AIDS diet is guarantied to work, HFLC requires work. Go to a gay pride festival and see all the fat lesbians.

Blogger FALPhil March 10, 2016 1:57 PM  

@53What Canada is now?

A global utopia, don't you know.


The quintessential global utopia. They are in the process of committing cultural suicide. I work in Torontostan these days. I would estimate that in the downtown/entertainment areas, only 1 in 5 people you meet on the street are of European extraction.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 1:59 PM  

Snidely, I'm not a conservative or fat. I didn't say I dislike it, I said I don't get it. I find it curious, because it doesn't make sense and seems to be a constant refrain. I don't much like any of the nonsense you hateful nutjobs spout, but I'm trying to get a handle on it.

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 2:01 PM  

Chris Mallory
It is still that world. You are naive if you think otherwise.
No, I'm not naive. I'm just narrowing the focus to our society, instead of the one made by Genghis Khan.

If I have to systematically exclude all the things I'm not talking about I will be dead before I finish a point.

CM
You give women far too much credit.
I'm not giving them credit. Like, at all. I basically called women and children parasites.

...and research suggests that, as long as the father is present, his values and beliefs carry more weight on the future values and beliefs of his children.

Yeah, so you're agreeing with me: The shit tier (in-group)men can't rehabilitate the (out-group)women into insider women with their magic seed because they're shit tier. And careful admission requirements for foreign men (selected for their sharing of in-group values and high productivity) will produce better children that can be integrated.

So, outsidermom-insiderdad and insidermom-outsiderdad mixed children are probably different cases.

Do I need to pick concrete examples like Jeb Bush or something?

Anonymous AmStrat March 10, 2016 2:01 PM  

Aaaaaand scene.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 2:04 PM  

69, you seem to be talking about lesbians, which is a different matter. Also, about gay Cuban men, which is really, really a different matter. You seem confused.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean March 10, 2016 2:08 PM  

#70 FALPhilI would estimate that in the downtown/entertainment areas, only 1 in 5 people you meet on the street are of European extraction.

Just taking a stroll through the Eaton Centre at lunch, I think you are pretty accurate, if not overestimating the number of whites.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 2:08 PM  

LurkingPuppy, because of name. I'm going to assume SF here means science fiction? I don't know anything about the science fiction disputes, but I doubt any of the participants are representative of anything. It's a really small subculture. Also, no offense, but I get the impression the science fiction world is disproportionately big, in general.

Anonymous drnick March 10, 2016 2:10 PM  

only 1 in 5 people you meet on the street are of European extraction.

I'd say 2 out of 5 from my experience. Which is close to the census results, and comparable to demographics in New York City. Because they have reputations as prosperous and diverse North American cities.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/demo27g-eng.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City

Anonymous Roundtine March 10, 2016 2:11 PM  

@39

Honest answer: you live in a lefty enclave, aka an area with wealthier white people. Obesity declines with income, more so among women, who tend to be more liberal. Your views of conservatives are probably also skewed by media, but you don't realize it because it's all you consume.

As for calling feminists fat/ugly, a lot of them happen to be fat and ugly. Go look for pictures of Slut Walks, you will be hard pressed to find beauties. The Femen movement in Europe hires prostitutes to do their nude protests for a reason.

Also, the left hates truth and beauty, and calls lies truth, and ugliness beautiful. Simply pointing out the obvious is enough to trigger leftists. See the "Are You Beach Body Ready" reaction.

Blogger Sam Lively March 10, 2016 2:15 PM  

OT, but who do I have to allegedly assault around here to get a thread for discussing the savage beatdown of Breitbart reporter Michelle "Jackie" Fields by Trump's Haven Monahan style henchman.

The advent of full-blown SJW victim politics to the GOP civil war will be fun.

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 2:16 PM  

drnick
I think of Canada's politics and economy as Banana Republic. It's rich, better managed and its coups aren't bloody but only its deep, boring pragmatism was maintaining that. Or maybe it's going to do the impossible and become an functioning globalist-socialist paradise. I will be happy to be wrong.

FALPhil
TorontoStan is very tolerable around the city core. It's the suburbs where I think the rot is happening. But it may be that the sheer concentration of foreigners keeps it all in check, like buttresses leaning in opposite directions to the structure they support.

Wouldn't it be a shame if someone were to mass-important a specific group that would disrupt that balance?

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 2:20 PM  

We get a change from NA_ALT to NALALF L=leftists and F= fat

you seem to be talking about lesbians Do you seriously not believe the vast majority of lesbians are feminists? What percentage of lesbians do you think are feminist?

Also, about gay Cuban men, which is really, really a different matter. You seem confused.

No confusion gay Cuban men in Miami consume so much cocaine that one with a double chin, like Rubio has, would be the equivalent of Chris Christy. Which plays into your NALALF (NOT ALL LEFTISTS ARE LIKE FAT) argument. "If you where a non fat feminist dinosaur my love" the Hugo award winning tale of _____________.

Anonymous cincinnatus March 10, 2016 2:21 PM  

I'm not much at the social/sexual analysis, but I think it depends on whether the mother or father is the foreigner. It might be more acceptable for foreign fathers, joining the tribe, to produce offspring with native women. As opposed to native men bringing in foreign women - who are in some sense a burden - to produce inferior children.

@32 White Devil
It depends.

That may have been true to an extent with hunter-gatherer tribes such as some Native Americans or Australian Aborigines, who tended to lose a lot of men in hunting accidents or fights and so tended to have a lot of surplus girls. But that is very much an unusual case.

For settled populations, I'd say it's easier to assimilate foreign women, since they're the submissive sex and they'd also be submitting to the man's culture. Anecdotally, it appears that countries don't mind immigrants if a lot of them are women (especially if they seem more sexually attractive than the native women), but they certainly do mind if they're mostly annoying young men, as with the mooselimb invasion of Europe right now, or as with the Hispanic illegal immigration in the United States in the past decade.

(Someone really should do a sociological study on this... but it would nicely explain why, for example, Japan keeps itself closed tight to immigration, while Britain is quite lax: Japanese women and British men are typically seen as much more desirable than their opposite-sex counterparts.)

This Swedish-Turkish girl, if she gets married (or ends up cohabiting, given that it's Sweden), will likely choose a Swede, especially since her sympathies are inclined that way now anyway.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy March 10, 2016 2:29 PM  

Violet Black wrote:LurkingPuppy, because of name. I'm going to assume SF here means science fiction?

Oh, of course you would think…. Yes, “SF” means “science fiction”.

Violet Black wrote:I don't know anything about the science fiction disputes, but I doubt any of the participants are representative of anything. It's a really small subculture. Also, no offense, but I get the impression the science fiction world is disproportionately big, in general.

Several people who attended Sasquan reported that motorized wheelchairs were rampant (no pun intended) there. And no, the pedo-sympathizer convention crowd does not represent all science fiction fans; that's why they handed out a representation of buggery as a trophy last year, and thus why many of the Sad Puppies from last year have gone fully burn-it-down Rabid.

See ‘SJWs Always Lie’ for background on the Puppies.

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 2:29 PM  

LurkingPuppy, because of name. I'm going to assume SF here means science fiction?

I will concede the point that the homeless trannies in San Fran are not fat & that people taking dumps on the street are leftists, no doubt feminists as well.

Blogger FALPhil March 10, 2016 2:29 PM  

@75 Jean Valjean wrote:
Just taking a stroll through the Eaton Centre at lunch, I think you are pretty accurate, if not overestimating the number of whites.

I am not far from Eaton Centre; in fact about half my crew bunks there. We should get together for lunch one day.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 2:32 PM  

Roundtine, yes, obviously, it's true that poverty contributes to obesity and richer people are generally thinner. And, as I said, most Americans are overweight. No, my synonymous-with-lefty home isn't that white or that affluent. But, no, I don't think it's a media-driven stereotype that conservatives are fatter; there are actual stats. Obviously, I haven't looked into all the variables (racial, regional, affluent conservatives, poor liberals, leftists/progressives versus liberals), but the fact remains: feminists aren't a notably fat group, yet you all (yes, broad generalization) seem utterly and emotionally obsessed with the idea that feminist=fat.
I suspect feminists are getting the fat-hate, because they, we have the nerve to say that being a fat woman isn't all that horrible.

Anonymous Opus March 10, 2016 2:38 PM  

No way is this written by a sixteen year old Swedish girl. Come on - much as I enjoy his Youtube videos - I rather suspect the author is none other than Paul Joseph Watson.

Having said that, it is worth recording that the only time I was in Sweden some thirty years ago, I then formed the opinion that Swedish men would volunteer (and indeed in my case did so) for their own cuckolding.

Blogger weka March 10, 2016 2:38 PM  

Snidely, I'm not a conservative or fat. I didn't say I dislike it, I said I don't get it. I find it curious, because it doesn't make sense and seems to be a constant refrain. I don't much like any of the nonsense you hateful nutjobs spout, but I'm trying to get a handle on it.

One of the commentators noted the truth: LCHF (Low Carb high fat) requires active effort, particularly in North America. One of the alt-right things is acknoweledging that we are hard-wired to desire that which is healthy: not cachectic, but fat neither.

The term sizeism was invented by a liberal, if not a feminist. Meh. I'm sizist. And most of us would rather hang around someone who is in the gym and looks after themselves and is a girl because we are cisgendered misogynist shitlords.

Nutjobs? Nah, the reality distortion is generally to the left of us. Besides, the train is fine.

Blogger FALPhil March 10, 2016 2:41 PM  

@80
TorontoStan is very tolerable around the city core. It's the suburbs where I think the rot is happening. But it may be that the sheer concentration of foreigners keeps it all in check, like buttresses leaning in opposite directions to the structure they support.

Could be, but my tolerance is slipping. Dundas Square is a friggin' zoo. I was in a restaurant this week, sitting near the back and facing the door. A stinky, smelly immigrant walks in with an old paper coffee cup that looked like it had been used as a pooper scooper, and starts going from table to table begging. The manager (also and immigrant) watched and did not intervene.

I had a flashback to East Africa in the late '70s. I've done my time in Third World shitholes. I don't need this kind of crap. But it seems that Trudeau & Co. see differently.

I always thought that Canadians were relatively smart, but in addition to this issue, they are also stuck on climate stupidity too.

Blogger Adam Meek March 10, 2016 2:46 PM  

Google Image search Andrea Dworkin.

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 2:49 PM  

Violet- Here is another well known leftist group, is 4/5 enough to be a valid stereotype?
http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2012/11/why-are-four-out-of-five-black-women-obese

Funny reality doesn't match what is seen on TV. Its like comparing the little Mosque on the prairie representation of moslems http://www.steynonline.com/1225/islamophobe-meets-sock-puppets to the real life moslem gynocologist on the Prarie http://thestarphoenix.com/news/saskatchewan/six-sexual-assault-charges-laid-against-former-yorkton-gynecologist, like the US pedo version http://nypost.com/2014/07/21/johns-hopkins-settles-with-victims-of-pervy-gyno-for-190m/

Have you ever meet a black in real life as smart AS SEEN ON TV? Or a stupid white guy in a position of power outside of govt employment?

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 2:50 PM  

Adam Meek, or Emma Watson? Or any Trump rally? Or any pro-confederate flag event?

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 2:55 PM  

BGKB, from gay Cuban men to San Francisco homeless people to Muslim gynecologists? Your mind is an interesting place.

Anonymous drnick March 10, 2016 3:02 PM  

I think of Canada's politics and economy as Banana Republic. It's rich, better managed and its coups aren't bloody but only its deep, boring pragmatism was maintaining that. Or maybe it's going to do the impossible and become an functioning globalist-socialist paradise. I will be happy to be wrong.

I don't think Canada's ever had a coup, given how close the Libs and Cons are policy wise, and at the last hint of serious terrorism Trudeau sent in the tanks. Now if the US rolls over and dies no one, least of all Canada, will be having any fun. But Canada's got internal order down to a fine science.

I really think a lot of American liberals would be much, much happier in Toronto, and they would call Canada a socialist paradise with sincerity and gratitude!

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 3:10 PM  

BGKB, from gay Cuban men to San Francisco homeless people to Muslim gynecologists? Your mind is an interesting place.

I was giving real world examples of thin leftists that I have personally seen. I used to be a healthcare traveler.

Violet Per rules of the blog please answer:
1.What percentage of lesbians do you think are feminist?
2.Have you ever meet a black in real life as smart AS SEEN ON TV? I have worked with a black doctor that malpracticed himself to death via self med error prior to computerized pharmacies, but would have to answer the question as NO.

Blogger Dexter March 10, 2016 3:15 PM  

I always thought that Canadians were relatively smart, but in addition to this issue, they are also stuck on climate stupidity too.

You would think that if they believed in global warming, they'd be all for it.

Anonymous Athor Pel March 10, 2016 3:18 PM  

" 86. Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 2:32 PM
... we have the nerve to say that being a fat woman isn't all that horrible."



But it is a horrible thing. It's taking something God gave you and twisting it into something ugly, something the makes dicks limp and pets anxious to not be sat on, something that makes men and women avert their gaze.

So yes, it is A Crime.

Put the Twinkie down and step away.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 3:21 PM  

BGKB, Miami Cuban gay men, homeless San Franciscans, and rapey Muslim doctors not likely to be leftists or feminists. And "rules of the blog" require me to answer your daft questions? You might be self-medding more than your doctor friend.

Blogger Chiva March 10, 2016 3:22 PM  

"I don't much like any of the nonsense you hateful nutjobs spout"

Kudos to you for trying to get a 'handle on it.' But your progressive privilege is starting to show.

You need to read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 3:26 PM  

Athor Pel, somehow I doubt yours needs any help staying limp.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 3:29 PM  

Thanks, Chiva, but I'm not actually interested in making any friends on the alt-right. There's such a thing as "progressive privilege"? Cool!

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 10, 2016 3:29 PM  

Violent Black smells as if she's from underneath a bridge.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy March 10, 2016 3:34 PM  

Violet Black wrote:And "rules of the blog" require me to answer your daft questions?

Violet Black wrote:Thanks, Chiva, but I'm not actually interested in making any friends on the alt-right.

Please follow the link above the comment box to ‘Rules of the blog’, NOW, before you make any more enemies here.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 3:36 PM  

Actually, Ominous, I don't think it's trolling if I'm upfront about my views and honestly discussing yours. Sure I got a bit tart with the crazier responses, but really, what can say some of this? Links to articles on pervy gynos? I ask you!

Anonymous Athor Pel March 10, 2016 3:41 PM  

Congratulations Violet, admitting obesity is the first step in losing excess body fat.
Lose enough and maybe someday at the quiet instigation of your husband your child will say, "Mama, you're pretty."

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 3:42 PM  

drnick
I don't think Canada's ever had a coup
I'm talking about the structure of the society and economy. I think Banana Republic is a more useful way of seeing Canada.

FALPhil
The manager (also an immigrant) watched and did not intervene.
Yeah. This is where having a Hong Kong Chinese guy is helpful to verbally castrate the typical Chinese, who spit openly and give Spadina that grungy stink.

Moral authority to enforce standards has been lost. Canadians are used to not having to confront problems. Canada survived the 07/08 crash because it did not deregulate the same way America did. They're very conservative as a rule. But the culture that prevented such things is changing rapidly. Cuckservatives are easy to rule. But they're trying to replace them with muds who want handouts.

But I do want to see Trudeau II try out Universal Basic Income. What follows will be educational, I'm sure.

Blogger SirHamster March 10, 2016 3:42 PM  

Violet Black wrote:And "rules of the blog" require me to answer your daft questions?

They do. Have you read them?

Excerpt from rule #2: "If you are asked a direct question relevant to the topic, then you will be expected to answer it in a straightforward and non-evasive manner"

You asked about fat feminists; BGKB made a point about fat lesbians; you doubted the relevance of lesbians to feminists; BGKB has asked you a question about what you think is the % relationship between lesbians and feminists; you did not provide an answer, and so BGKB has challenged you to directly answer the question per the rules of the blog.

I'm just a random commenter, but BGKB's question is relevant to the discussion you initiated, even if it's not closely related the original thread topic. So you should answer his question to follow the rules of the blog.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 3:53 PM  

Thanks, Sir Hamster, but I really didn't think any of his comments were relevant to reality, let alone any discussion that involved anyone but himself. You could, maaaybe make a case for question one, but question two is just bizarre.

So, in answer to BGKB question, I don't know, but I would think quite a few lesbians are feminists. Most feminists aren't lesbians, though, and, obviously, they are two separate concepts, whatever the overlap.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 3:59 PM  

"Why are feminists fat and ugly?"

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:05 PM  

Not going to watch that, Krul, but I assume it purports to be lots of video of fat feminists. I already said they, exist, just not in disproportionate number, unlike, say, fat conservatives and fat people who attend alt-right events. That also doesn't answer my main question: why the weird preoccupation?

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:09 PM  

"It's simple..."

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:12 PM  

And what are they eating at those pro-confederate-flag rallies and Trump rallies?

Blogger SirHamster March 10, 2016 4:13 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Thanks, Sir Hamster, but I really didn't think any of his comments were relevant to reality, let alone any discussion that involved anyone but himself. You could, maaaybe make a case for question one, but question two is just bizarre.

"I refuse to answer the question because it is irrelevant" is a direct answer to a question. But note then people are free to draw their own conclusions on how reasonable they think that answer is.

You should also note that "Have you read the rules of the blog?" is a direct question. I'm guessing no, since you used scare quotes on the term and needed explanation.

PS: Percentage is a number getting at a ratio.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:13 PM  

"...we have the nerve to say that being a fat woman isn't all that horrible. "

Anonymous Philalethes March 10, 2016 4:15 PM  

Most feminists aren't lesbians, though, and, obviously, they are two separate concepts, whatever the overlap.

"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." – Ti-Grace Atkinson ("Lesbianism and Feminism", Chicago Women's Liberation Union pamphlet, 1971)

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:17 PM  

"feminism and fat acceptance are connected"

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2016 March 10, 2016 4:19 PM  

No one "fits in" with a cultural marxism society. As with Muhammadanism everyone is dehumanized to their core. It's submission annihilation.

CS Lewis dealt with this in "abolition of man" - the essay. He didn't imagine society could get so crazy as to totally disassociate though. The multicultic core meltdown we are seeing right now.

Jesus or burn. Thinking maybe the SHTF early june? Jonathan Cahn economic 'mgeddon stuff/ or worse. cheers



Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:22 PM  

Being fat isn't all that horrible... oh wait, yes it is

"If you're obese, you're more likely to develop a number of potentially serious health problems, including:

High triglycerides and low high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol
Type 2 diabetes
High blood pressure
Metabolic syndrome — a combination of high blood sugar, high blood pressure, high triglycerides and low HDL cholesterol
Heart disease
Stroke
Cancer, including cancer of the uterus, cervix, endometrium, ovaries, breast, colon, rectum, esophagus, liver, gallbladder, pancreas, kidney and prostate
Breathing disorders, including sleep apnea, a potentially serious sleep disorder in which breathing repeatedly stops and starts
Gallbladder disease
Gynecological problems, such as infertility and irregular periods
Erectile dysfunction and sexual health issues
Nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, a condition in which fat builds up in the liver and can cause inflammation or scarring
Osteoarthritis

Quality of life

When you're obese, your overall quality of life may be diminished. You may not be able to do things you used to do, such as participating in enjoyable activities. You may avoid public places. Obese people may even encounter discrimination.

Other weight-related issues that may affect your quality of life include:

Depression
Disability
Sexual problems
Shame and guilt
Social isolation
Lower work achievement"

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:22 PM  

Sir Hamster, are you saying my answer was inadequate, because it was not in the form of a percentage as asked? "I don't know" is not acceptable?
You are correct that I failed to answer your question. No, I had not. I was not actually questioning that they did require my answering, that's common and reasonable enough. I was questioning whether that applied in this case, because they, the second in particular was so extremely odd and because he and I hadn't, as I saw it, been having a coherent discussion at all. In fairness, though, I was responding to his comments and he was, therefore, entitled to ask questions. I'll respond to them separately.

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 4:23 PM  

cincinnatus
... hunter-gatherer tribes... easier to assimilate foreign women...

I'm not talking about tribes replacing men or raiders filling up their harems. I'm talking about our society, where we suppressed those things generation by generation for a long, long time.

I don't mean integration as "they dress like us." I mean whether they actually assimilate, as a Thomas Sowell does, not as a Michael Brown does.

I think the way we put our society together, mixed children whose father was a high status outsider that joined us to practice our values and be highly productive? Are going to do well. While the children of in-group males that brought in an out-group female so he could have more (or any) children? Are going to do poorly.

Mixed children might be too muddy a category to understand what's going wrong.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:26 PM  

Krul, that's not anyone else's business. And, as I've said, most Americans are overweight. I'm not, but I don't concern myself with anyone else's health or body.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:30 PM  

BGKB, in answer to your questions, I have no idea what percentage of lesbians are feminists. Quite a high percentage, I would think. As to your second question, I am going to have to refuse to answer, because it is extremely irrelevant, you did not even attempt to explain its relevance, and, frankly, I couldn't an it if I wanted to, because I didn't understand it.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:30 PM  

"Feminism is making Americans fat"

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 10, 2016 4:33 PM  

Have you considered the fact that all the fat people you are seeing at Trump and Flag Rallies are all lesbian and trans lesbian feminists there to protest?

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:33 PM  

And alt-right pickup artists are making gullible men stupid. Stop reading that pseudoscience-spewing moron.

Blogger SirHamster March 10, 2016 4:36 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Sir Hamster, are you saying my answer was inadequate, because it was not in the form of a percentage as asked? "I don't know" is not acceptable?

I'm noting that if you're going to guess at an answer, it should match the question. "quite a few" is not a ratio or percentage.

If you wish to claim the position of "I don't know", then you have no basis to claim there is no relevance between lesbian and feminist.

Because then you don't know if the percentage is 100% of lesbians are feminist, which would imply something about feminism if lesbians are fatter than average.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:36 PM  

Skyward, no, I had not. Are you suggesting that the majority in attendance are protesters? Even the ones I the Trump hats and confederate flag t-shirts? Hmmm. You might be on to something...

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 10, 2016 4:37 PM  

She says that word irrelevant quite a bit. She must be a drone from the BORG Collective. "Negotiation is irrelevant. Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply. "

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:38 PM  

Sir Hamster, I did, as I said I would, give him a revised answer, taking your critique into account. He has not said it was unacceptable, and I think that's his call.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:39 PM  

"Fat feminism or fat-positive feminism is a form of feminism that merges with fat activism and specifically addresses how misogyny and sexism intersect with sizeism and anti-fat bias."

"I suspect feminists are getting the fat-hate, because they, we have the nerve to say that being a fat woman isn't all that horrible."

Feminism? Check
Fat-positive? Check

Congratulations, Violet Black, you're a Fat Feminist!

Blogger JimR March 10, 2016 4:39 PM  

"Violet Black" claims "conservatives are the fattest", offers no evidence to back said claim, then states "I don't concern myself with anyone else's health or body."


Sounds like fat shaming feminist to me. Maybe a fat, shaming feminist, who knows?

meh, who cares.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 4:42 PM  

Guess what?

Blogger Adam Meek March 10, 2016 4:43 PM  

Fwiw I went to the Trump rally in Radford VA most of the women were attractive.

Anonymous liljoe March 10, 2016 4:45 PM  

i don't know, this letter reads fake to me. while i agree w the overall jist, the vocabulary and sophisticated political take doesn't sound like a 16 yr old, much less a 16 yr old girl. maybe i'm wrong

Blogger Lovekraft March 10, 2016 4:45 PM  

There always seems to be the expectation that just around the corner we will have democracy-on-the-ground, tools with which the public can join together to fight the evil system.

Currently these tools are in the hands of cultural marxist sjw nutjobs and their globalist corporate puppet-masters. Dealing in degradation and stupidity, accomplishing nothing but confusion and animosity.

This tool is the gun for some. For others, it's the internet.

But a truly effective tool would allow this girl's message to be spread to those who matter - those who would be able to VERIFY the veracity of the claim, IDENTIFY the perps, and most importantly PLACE FULL RESPONSIBILITY on those high up who facilitated this.

And as for the fat lesbian debate in this thread, yes, the hardcore ones are overwhelmingly fat, dyed hair, pierced, damaged. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to see this.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 10, 2016 4:46 PM  

I went to a Trump rally in NC and the only fatties there were holding up grossly mis-spelled protest signs.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:47 PM  

Adam, good for them. I wouldn't go myself,and was referring to news video and pics. Maybe they do pick images that make Trump supporters look particularly...stereotypical.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 4:47 PM  

Violet Black wrote:I don't much like any of the nonsense you hateful nutjobs spout, but I'm trying to get a handle on it.
Well, congrats, the triggers didn't trigger you.
The problem you have here, is you think most women are feminists. They're not, even many who would say that they are. Feminists are mostly fat unpleasant unattractive women, with bad personalities.

Feminism is an elaborate conspiracy theory used by unhappy women to blame their unhappiness on men, rather than take responsibility for their lives.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:52 PM  

Interesting theory there, Snidely. Even women who say they are feminists aren't? Hmm. Well, you guys are always saying women are duplicitous...

Blogger SirHamster March 10, 2016 4:53 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Sir Hamster, I did, as I said I would, give him a revised answer, taking your critique into account. He has not said it was unacceptable, and I think that's his call.


I pointed out I'm just a random commenter. I answered your question and commented on your comments.

If one has to mansplain the rules, and then provide coaching just to get a useful answer ...

Maybe you're not a fat feminist, but you're definitely not a quick one.

And that is why this place doesn't care for fat feminists. Slow. And not good looking.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 4:55 PM  

Violet Black wrote:I don't much like any of the nonsense you hateful nutjobs spout, but I'm trying to get a handle on it.
And I don't much like any of the nonsense you nutjobs spout, but I already have a handle on it. It's mostly because you're intentionally stupid.

Anonymous Roundtine March 10, 2016 4:56 PM  

Even women who say they are feminists aren't?

Ask a woman what feminism means and most say something like equal pay for equal work, which isn't what feminism is at all. Most men and women don't know what actual feminists believe because most people are idiots.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 4:56 PM  

Lovecraft, I don't think I've ever seen anyone who looks like a manosphere feminist in real life and I have met many, many feminists. Obviously, a few exist, but I think you are being misled if you think that's typical.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 4:57 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Interesting theory there, Snidely. Even women who say they are feminists aren't? Hmm. Well, you guys are always saying women are duplicitous...
Rule 1) Women lie
Rule 2) Especially to themselves.
Ask any woman what she's looking for in a man/"partner". Then look at he men she actually chooses.

A women usually gives the answer that will improve her social standing.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 5:00 PM  

Sir Hamster, I never claimed to be quick, but I think I can be forgiven for having trouble taking BGKB and his rants about Muslim gynecologists seriously.

Anonymous Roundtine March 10, 2016 5:00 PM  

I suspect feminists are getting the fat-hate...

Feminists get hate because they are vile disgusting people on the inside. The outside often comes to reflect it over time.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner March 10, 2016 5:01 PM  

Violet do you think <95% of lesbians are feminists?
You might think that number seems odd but 1/20 people are felons while Eric Holder admitted, when fighting Florida's Felon No Vote Law, that 1/3 voting age black males are felons. Since you are a leftist that would be 5% and 33.333_%

BGKB, Miami Cuban gay men, homeless San Franciscans, and rapey Muslim doctors not likely to be leftists or feminists

Join the Gay Otherkin Party with the platform of gay alimony, affirmative action, moor free stuff, & using taxpayers money to import rough trade. Feminists so destroyed marriage no productive person in their right mind would want it. You seriously think at least 4/5 of people in those groups are not leftists?

Links to articles on black / brown moslem pervy gynos imigrants? I ask you!

You don't seem to be familiar with reality, only the die verse city you see on TV. Both of those(just so happened to be) what you would call good immigrants that benefited from affirmative action. Making the links relevant to both the original topic of good imigrants and reality vs. seen on TV one.

And what are they eating at those pro-confederate-flag rallies and Trump rallies?

LCHF by the looks of the last rally I went to, the big burly men that can pick up a car and carry it as a group of 4 are not fat. If you stop at Overpasses for America your car might get tossed over the side.

You could, maaaybe make a case for question one, but question two is just bizarre.

"Have you ever meet a black in real life as smart as seen on fictional TV?" is a yes or no answer. The fact you cannot say yes, answers it. Don't feel bad before I worked in inner city hospitals I would have lied and said yes.

Other weight-related issues that may affect your quality of life include:

Combine obesity with sickle cell like Eric Gardner and you can suffocate just from being placed prone (face down) or flying in a small unpressurized plane. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1273254/

In case you are wondering I am actually a gay conservative that doesn't want more taken from my wallet every time Latrina squats out another crack baby. There are more gay conservatives over at gaypatriot.net.

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 5:04 PM  

Feminism is an elaborate conspiracy theory used by unhappy women to blame their unhappiness on men, rather than take responsibility for their lives.

I disagree. It's Sexual-Marxism.

Feminism is effectively labour-union organizing for the sexes. The management level feminists (the ones that do all the talking) get power based on their ability to generate animosity between the sexes and anxiety within each camp.

A lot of it is "We Wuz Kangs" for women. Like the meme that witch burnings were fearful men suppressing educated women. (The legal history contradicts this entirely, it was woman-on-women aggression, with poor women preying on the fears of wealthy women and wealthy women using the system against poor women.)

The difficulty is that feminism cannot embrace the principle of falsifiable theories. They open the door to direct testing. Confrontation of that kind is radically opposed to female nature.

Nothing makes a feminist more annoyed than the suggestion she can't speak on behalf of her union. Besides undermining her "identity" as a (management) feminist, it means she has to be accountable for speaking her own words, rather than conveying the words and sentiments of others.

I've never met an especially attractive woman that cared for feminism. I've never met an especially ambitious worker than cared for unions.

Demanding life be reconciled to abstractions about equality is impossible. But socialists prefer killing millions of people to changing their methods. Feminists haven't been able to conduct a genocide of men for obvious biological reasons, but their ideas deciding policy and steering culture have demoralized entire societies.

Again, the parallels to political and economic Marxism are endless.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 10, 2016 5:04 PM  

All Three Laws of SJW Robotics can be seen in the threads from Violet.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 5:07 PM  

I asked for clarification and you delivered! Thanks to everyone who gave a serious response and may God help us all.

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 5:07 PM  

Feminism is an elaborate conspiracy theory...

I disagree. It's Sexual-Marxism.

I should clarify. I disagree with the broader picture, not how it serves individuals to enable their wickedness and self-destruction.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 10, 2016 5:11 PM  

At least she intentionally mistyped my name as Skyward instead of Skylard as they typically do.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 10, 2016 5:19 PM  

" Genetics are far more complicated than we understand, they are far more significant than most of us are willing to admit, and they are ignored at everyone's peril."

Well put.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 5:19 PM  

Oh, Skylark! No one intentionally misspelled your name. Autocorrect and people using all these new ipads and phones with tiny keyboards are the problem.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 10, 2016 5:20 PM  

Genetics will be to the 21st century as physics was to the 20th century.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 10, 2016 5:24 PM  

@Violet Black

I don't much like any of the nonsense you hateful nutjobs spout, but I'm trying to get a handle on it.

If it's nonsense how can you get a handle on it?

Moreover why would you want to?

The truth is beloved lady, if you did actually get a grip on it. A really solid grip...

Your paradigm would shift without a clutch.

Blogger FALPhil March 10, 2016 5:31 PM  

@111
And what are they eating at those pro-confederate-flag rallies and Trump rallies?

Chitlins, fried chicken, and watermelon. Banana pudding for dessert.

You got a problem with that?

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 10, 2016 5:32 PM  

@152 Aeoli Pera

I'm tacking up a post about that this weekend. I ran into an interesting study.

A genetic survey in the UK. People whose grandparents all live with in forty miles of each other.

Devon and Cornwall are within that radius and there is no interbreeding at all with in those subject groups. The river is a complete barrier and the people of Devon and Cornwall have Othered each other for better than a thousand years.

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 5:39 PM  

Can't beat the classics

x2

Blogger Krul March 10, 2016 5:46 PM  

What does feminism have to do with fat? Ask Melissa May: "Dear Ursula..."

Blogger CM March 10, 2016 6:03 PM  

@WD

Sorry took so long to respond.

Your argument of outsider man marrying inside woman has a better shot at assimilating if the man is willing to.

What I provided does not support that. An outside woman married to an inside man is far more likely to assimilate faster... especially if she comes from a country with less influence of feminism. That is because the father matters more than the woman.

You were arguing that an inside woman would pass down the cultural values of the host country. I pointed out that there is evidence kids take their values from their fathers more than their mothers.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 10, 2016 6:05 PM  

@152 Aeoli Pera

I'm tacking up a post about that this weekend. I ran into an interesting study.

A genetic survey in the UK. People whose grandparents all live with in forty miles of each other.

Devon and Cornwall are within that radius and there is no interbreeding at all with in those subject groups. The river is a complete barrier and the people of Devon and Cornwall have Othered each other for better than a thousand years.

Blogger White Devil March 10, 2016 6:25 PM  

CM
You were arguing that an inside woman would pass down the cultural values of the host country.
I did not say that. I said the foreign father joins the native tribe to practice native values. And (maybe) the children he makes are more likely to be compatible with the native society (specifically ours) than in the case of native-father foreign-mother.

I don't say why. I don't care why. I just say if that turns out to be a good predictor

(I will stop here to formally exclude the case of borderless countries being invaded by mud men, I can only see that producing garbage)

of the success of mixed race children in our society, it might be worth making the distinction.

I did not say "genetics make behavior and the woman's genetics are more important" I just took vox's suggestion that we don't understand enough about genetics to realize how much blood matters... and failed to explicitly connect it to "maybe it matters which of your parents was native and which was not."

Blogger praetorian March 10, 2016 6:33 PM  

/ checks in on vox /

/ some bitch is shitting up a thread right proper /

/ it isn't Matt Edwards /

Huh.

Blogger papabear March 10, 2016 6:52 PM  

"I have met quite a few Chinese who are into the second amendment but have not been able to ascertain their real attitudes, however."

In California it may be that this is some sort of beta compensation. Many of them are also likely to vote Democrat even though Democrats are anti-gun. Very few of them know anything about the actual meaning of the Constitution or the Anglo-American political tradition as most are products of public education.

Also, while many engage in some sort of identity politics, the actual cohesiveness of Asians as a real community is small.

Anonymous Red Comet March 10, 2016 6:55 PM  

That letter's cute and all, but she's got to be sent back too.

Blogger The Kurgan March 10, 2016 7:32 PM  

Violet black,
This is not the blog you're looking for. Feel free to go away and never come back. Fat feminist lesbians do not last long here anyway.

Blogger The Kurgan March 10, 2016 7:39 PM  

Violet black,
we have the nerve to say that being a fat woman isn't all that horrible

Called it. She's a blimp.
And yes it is horrible. Nothing gets less sex, less love, less genuine attention and care than a fat feminist lesbian.
Invest in cats. They don't love you either but they will at least eat you. Admittedly you'll need to die first but fatties can't be choosers.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 7:56 PM  

Kurgan, I actually think this blog is exactly what I am looking for, but, no, I done plan to "last long." I'm here because the whole world is looking these Trump supporters and saying, "What is wrong with these people? What are they thinking?" and I'm trying to figure that out.
No, I'm actually not fat. However,I do know quite a few fat women who are quite happily married. Why do guys think that cat lady threat is going to work on anyone? "Be a perfectly obedient, subservient little slave or no alt-right/mra weirdo will want to make you his slave!" We all see non-obedient ladies getting
love and no one wants men like you anyway. I'd take a cat over one of you creepy, bitter, racist loons any day.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 10, 2016 8:07 PM  

Your paradigm would shift without a clutch

However as it is I will not even give her 2 centavos for it.

Blogger Escoffier March 10, 2016 8:29 PM  

I mean whether they actually assimilate, as a Thomas Sowell does

As much as I like Dr Sowell I'm not sure this is an accurate statement. His recent anti Trump rant is certainly suggestive.

Anonymous Eric the Red March 10, 2016 8:43 PM  

@39, @54, @71, @74, etc., etc., etc.

Big men are not fat.

KKK rallies are a figment of your hyperbolic leftist imagination.

Lesbians are the cutting edge of feminism, therefore ideal representatives. (Also include pink-purple hair as a fashion statement).

Trump supporters are not conservative; conservatism is dead.

Walmart voters are as likely to blindly wander into a voting booth and yank the Democrat's crank than they are Republican's.

"I live in a stereotypically conservative community of laborers and farmers, and none of them are fat." See how far unsupported anecdotes will take you? Regarding your actual stats, time to put up or shut up, although they are probably examples of leftist confirmation bias from some gender-studies college.
Also lets see all those 'stats' on Trump supporters' weight, mass-to-body-fat ratio, etc. Otherwise you're just spouting more unsupported assertions, i.e., leftist bias.

Anyone who even momentarily shakes you out of your fantasyland of leftist memes is hateful, because to you reality is unbearably painful.

"Miami Cuban gay men, homeless San Franciscans, and rapey Muslim doctors not likely to be leftists or feminists." With ridiculous assertions like that, you really are living in fantasyland, aren't you.

The kneejerk invectives "hateful" or "racist" are laughable coming from a sniveling coward such as yourself who pits blacks against hispanics and muslims against everyone, then tries to trick each group into believing you're they're oh-so-concerned friend and intellectual superior.

BTW, love your sincerity. It makes your thinly disguised arrogance all that much easier to ignore. /s

Lovely, @118 is a lot of verbiage without much intellectual content. Is that how you got your feminist-gender studies degree? Please don't stop, I love to see such examples of leftist intellectual so-called superiority.

Considering all of the above, you are not only confused, you are painfully witless. So, honey chile', run on back now to your safe space... don't let de debbil Christian white man get you !!!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 8:51 PM  

Violet Black wrote:We all see non-obedient ladies getting love
It's easy to get laid and pretend respect when a girl is 22. talk to me again in 15 years.

...and no one wants men like you anyway. I'd take a cat over one of you creepy, bitter, racist loons any day.
Good thing for you, considering. And yet strangely enough, I've been married to a very happy woman for more than 35 years. But then, she's smart enough to reject feminism

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 8:54 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Miami Cuban gay men, homeless San Franciscans, and rapey Muslim doctors not likely to be leftists or feminists.
Even if they say they are?
Or do only men lie?

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 9:01 PM  

Eric, that's a whole of projection. I pit blacks against hispanics? Huh? You're baffled about how I could possibly say you're all hateful and racist? Did you even read this thread? Or any of the comments on this blog ever? Out and proud racist is pretty much the norm here and you're denying it?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 9:05 PM  

Violet Black wrote:Out and proud racist is pretty much the norm here and you're denying it?

Yes, I DO have pale skin.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 9:06 PM  

Snide, do you have examples of anyone like that saying they are feminists or leftists? Miami Cubans are a noted republican stronghold. Homeless people are, by and large, apolitical, mostly trying to survive, deal with addiction, with mental health issues, etc. I would have thought rapey Muslim gyno would be self-evident. Have you heard of any who identify as leftist or as feminist? That would be weird.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 9:16 PM  

Snidely, I'm glad to hear that you are happily married. That came up because one of these dolts was telling me that fat women never get love or sex and I mentioned that I know quite a few who are also happily married. Don't you?

Anonymous Eric the Red March 10, 2016 9:21 PM  

@174..
That's right, honey, conveniently ignore the specific issues I addressed (including the questions I asked), thereby providing additional confirmation of that marvelous intellectual superiority you leftists are so proud of.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 9:27 PM  

Violet Black
That thing, up there, above your head? yeah, that was the point.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 9:28 PM  

Eric, you asked questions?

Anonymous Eric the Red March 10, 2016 9:30 PM  

@174...
The well-worn progressive political strategy for the last 60 years is to aid and abet identity groups, then pit them against each other, all the while promising freebies if they vote for the usual leftist power brokers.

But I guess that's not racism, which you subjectively define any way that's convenient for the power structure.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 9:36 PM  

Eric, still not seeing a question...
I get that that is one interpretation of the politics of the democratic party. I've never heard it ascribed to progressives, though, which doesn't mean that it hasn't been. Why are you assuming my politics fit in with this? What do you assume my politics to be? Feminists and people who don't care for Trump come in a lot of flavors.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 9:45 PM  

You know,Eric, I didn't come with any assumptions...for example, that you are all racists. I have been reading the post and the comments and, right here in this thread, everyone clearly espouses white supremacist views, weird racial pseudoscience, etc. You know, racist stuff. You, on the other hand, made all kinds of assumptions about me fitting various stereotypes.

Anonymous Eric the Red March 10, 2016 10:03 PM  

@182...
Being disingenuous doesn't get you anywhere on this blog, hun, it only makes you look even more cowardly and idiotic.

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 10:12 PM  

Ok, so you assume I'm what? A Hillary-style democrat? Some kind of far leftist? What?

Anonymous BGKB March 10, 2016 10:26 PM  

Violet Black Out and proud racist is pretty much the norm here and you're denying it?

The GayKK robes are fabulous. You see the real reason that blacks make up 8% of San Fran public school students but 71% of those arrested is because all the gay teachers be racist. The fact San Fran adult arrest numbers are even more disparate than Ferguson is because the gay cops are more racist. It has nothing to do with evolution. The gays and Asians both decided to only report gay/Asian bashings when blacks do it. Asian girls are just as stupid and violent as black boys but gayKK teachers ignore it. That's sarcasm BTW

Here is the GayKK newspaper that reported the San Fran 8% black public schools with 71% of students arrested being black http://archives.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/african-american-top-the-list-of-students-arrested-at-sf-schools-but-only-make-up-8-percent-of-student-body/Content?oid=2920039

gay Miami Cubans are a notedleftist stronghold.
Homeless people are, by and large
getting on the acorn bus to sell their vote for $15 each place they can vote, for the party of more free stuff.
I would have thought rapey Muslim gyno would be self-evident. Affirmative action even the Journal of Blacks in Higher Edu says without AA there would be no black medical doctors, also which side is for importing moslems? http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

That came up because one of these dolts was telling me that fat women never get love or sex
from fit white guys.

Ok, so you assume I'm what? A Hillary-style democrat? Some kind of far leftist? What? A sheep or drone

Blogger tz March 10, 2016 10:35 PM  

Irony.
1.
2.

Blogger tz March 10, 2016 10:46 PM  

dis-Unum profanum cucktolicam

Blogger Violet Black March 10, 2016 10:46 PM  

BGKB, so is your point that you are racist for good reason? Yes, I assume most racists think so.
If you insist that gay Miami Cubans are typically leftist, I'll defer to your superior knowledge. Was your original point that they are also fat? Ok, again, you have obviously given that more thought, so I will take your word for it.
You're saying that fat women don't get love or sex from fit white men? Well, I admit the happily married chubby ladies I mentioned are in fact married to portly fellows, but happily is happily.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 10, 2016 11:43 PM  

@Violet Black

Yes, you're special and smart and oh, so pretty. Not at all like the goddamn Leftie trolls who invade here every single fucking day. You're different. You're special.

So now can you stop being coy about what your beliefs are? If you don't like us assuming, make it explicit. Until then, we will assume you're a worthless purple-haired tatted-up feminist fattie drama queen on an expedition to observe the freaks in their natural habitat.

Like all Leftists, you're a doctrinaire anti-racist, feminist who wants us all to either die or kiss your ass. Good luck.

So now you can go back to your safe space and get your praise for confronting the evil legion of evil.

Blogger John Wright March 10, 2016 11:59 PM  

"Nation is family is blood."

All nations but ours. We adopt.

Your love of "limpieza de sangre" betrays that you are confitioned by your Spanish blood. You will never understand we Anglosaxons.

For better or worse, we are the only non-racist race there is. It is a racial characteristic, is it not?

If it is a racial characteristic, it is futile to attempt to persuaded us to change it.

Blogger John Wright March 11, 2016 12:05 AM  

"Would the "we are real Americans" fight and kill and die in a war against their original homeland?"

I am Pennsylvania Dutch. My ancestors were German.

I would not only be willing to nuke Germany, I think we should do it preemptively before the Krauts and Huns rediscover their natural and genetic Teutonic barbarism.

Damned Lutherans, anyway. Save the tall busty Blondes for breeding our soldier corps.

So I can answer in the positive.

Blogger Violet Black March 11, 2016 12:10 AM  

Snidely, again with the weird projection! I have no idea who it is I'm supposedly trying to dinstinguish myself from. I'm not interested in anyone here thinking I'm special or thinking highly of me in any way. Assume I have purple hair, if you like. Assume I'm fat. Assume I'm worthless. I don't have the highest opinion of you all, either, but I'm not interested in reducing you to cardboard cutouts. If you're more comfortable doing that, be my guest.
Yes, I'm a feminist, as I've said. Yes, racism, even VDs pseudoscientific kind, disgusts me. It baffles me that anyone can call himself a Christian, as I do, and feel otherwise, but that is for you to answer for. It disgusts and saddens me that the disintegration of the American economic and political system is leading so many to cheer a thuggish demagogue. None of this is special at all, just basic, normal decency. No one is going to praise me for posting in some obscure comments section. That "evil legion of evil" was VDs wishful thinking masquerading as a joke.He wishes the average liberal or progressive has ever heard of him.

Blogger John Wright March 11, 2016 12:13 AM  

"He would have to be smarter than Einstein being productive for decades to positively contribute."

Strange that you should mention him. He was a German Jewish refugee, who allowed us to win the war in the Pacific without invading the Home Islands practically by himself.

I see nothing wrong with restricting immigration severely after decades of unwise 'bring the whole family' policies. But we should exploit the wisest and best the world has to offer, and offer them a place where Catholics and Protestants can live in peace.

The problem as I see it, is not the brown and black races living here: it is the Leftists who use the races successfully to shove the nation ever further to the Left.

By all means deport those hear illegally. By all means, let us return to the laws as they stood before the disaster of the Hart–Celler Act of 1965, and the bigger disaster of the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, which granted amnesty.

I know exactly one person who was allowed to stay in the country due to amnesty: she is a white woman from South Africa. And she hates this country with a passion.

So let us deport the Leftist as well. Otherwise the problem will recur.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 11, 2016 12:18 AM  

@153 Violet Black as I was told by my Supreme Dark Lord, blaming spell check only tells everyone you don't know how to turn it off.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 11, 2016 12:20 AM  

John Wright wrote:who allowed us to win the war in the Pacific without invading the Home Islands practically by himself.
That was Oppenheimer and Fermi, not Einstein

@Violet Black, still no answer.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 11, 2016 12:23 AM  

@Violet Black
"pseudoscience" You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Pseudoscience does not mean "science which disagrees with my religious dogma", it means "religious dogma posing as science", like anthropogenic climate change.

Blogger John Wright March 11, 2016 12:33 AM  

" It's Sexual-Marxism. "
Hear, hear and bravo.

The devil never invents new lies. He merely reuses old ones.

Blogger Violet Black March 11, 2016 12:38 AM  

It also means I don't care enough to correct it.
Answer to what? Did you ask a specific question? Feel free.

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