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Wednesday, March 16, 2016

Fox Republican debate canceled

Donald Trump is making both Fox News and the RNC his bitches. Like a boss:
Monday's Republican presidential primary debate has been canceled after GOP front-runner Donald Trump declined to participate, citing a scheduling conflict.

"On Feb. 20, the Republican National Committee announced that a GOP presidential primary debate would be held on March 21 in Salt Lake City. They offered that debate to Fox News Channel to host, provided there were enough candidates actively campaigning," Fox News Executive Vice President Michael Clemente said in a statement.

"This morning, Donald Trump announced he would not be participating in the debate. Shortly afterward, John Kasich's campaign announced that without Trump at the debate, Kasich would not participate. Ted Cruz has expressed a willingness to debate Trump or Kasich — or both. But obviously, there needs to be more than one participant. So the Salt Lake City debate is cancelled," Clemente said.
So much for the idea of a brokered convention. At this rate, if Donald Trump decides not to show up for the Republican National Convention, they'll cancel that too.

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165 Comments:

Anonymous Broken Arrow March 16, 2016 2:16 PM  

I guess Megan Kelly will shave her head now to complete the transformation.

Blogger Crowhill March 16, 2016 2:18 PM  

That is actually a very funny idea. What if Trump said no to a convention?

Blogger Trid March 16, 2016 2:19 PM  

Cruz doesn't need anyone else at the debate to get on his knees and fellate the GOP establishment.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab March 16, 2016 2:19 PM  

Fox should have mended fences. Now they are standing with their johnson in their hand. They would rather keep smearing Trump than see him win.

Fox is going to have a 'come to Jesus' moment pretty soon and they won't like it.

Blogger Alexander March 16, 2016 2:21 PM  

I like the Kasich response: Trump quit, so were out too! ...but if he comes back then we will as well...

Spoken like a true leader of the cuckservative movement!

Anonymous WaterBoy March 16, 2016 2:24 PM  

Crowhill: "That is actually a very funny idea. What if Trump said no to a convention?"

No doubt that is what the GOPe would like to see happen, for they can then declare he was never serious about the candidacy and award it to their preferred choice after all.

Anonymous Orville March 16, 2016 2:26 PM  

Again, looking past the sale. From this point on I predict Trump will act as though he is the republican nominee. Gives the cucks time to digest and process before the formality of a convention.

Anonymous A Visitor March 16, 2016 2:28 PM  

"That is actually a very funny idea. What if Trump said no to a convention?"

Trump to convention organizers: "You're fired!"

Blogger Dexter March 16, 2016 2:30 PM  

"But... but... if he doesn't show up, we'd have to shoot at each other rather than him, and our masters say that's not the plan!" -- Cruz and Kasich

Blogger Timmy3 March 16, 2016 2:31 PM  

Kasich cancelling with Trump suggests he's not a serious Presidential contender. He wants to be his VP. Many commentators are saying this because otherwise Trump can't win without Ohio. Kasich is pro-amnesty so this disqualified him. Can't see how this ends well.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 16, 2016 2:31 PM  

His speech to AIPAC far more important than wasting time on the Fox tard network

Anonymous kfg March 16, 2016 2:33 PM  

"From this point on I predict Trump will act as though he is the republican nominee."

I declared that's what he had started doing when he turned down the debate the first time.

Anonymous WinstonWebb March 16, 2016 2:35 PM  

Exactly, Alexander.
In an unrelated story, Kasich is refusing to have sex with his wife unless Trump does her first.

Anonymous Broken Arrow March 16, 2016 2:38 PM  

There's no upside for Kasich to debate Cruz as Cruz would win and his entire point right now is to siphon votes and hope for a brokered convention. He can't take the chance Cruz would knee-cap him.

Blogger Alexander March 16, 2016 2:39 PM  

Trump brings Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin into play, possibly New Hampshire and Maine, and of things go really well, maybe shakes the Pacific northwest and New York.

Ohio is important, but it's a six insisting on being treated like a ten. Cuck-amnesty VP... Bad deal. Dumb deal. No deal.

Anonymous Scintan March 16, 2016 2:40 PM  

What the hell was Kasich thinking?

Blogger Gaiseric March 16, 2016 2:41 PM  

Broken Arrow wrote:There's no upside for Kasich to debate Cruz as Cruz would win and his entire point right now is to siphon votes and hope for a brokered convention. He can't take the chance Cruz would knee-cap him.
Especially as that's a good chance. Cruz is good at debates, especially if it becomes a more wonkish debate, as it would between Cruz and Kasich.

Blogger Melampus the Seer March 16, 2016 2:46 PM  

We don't need to be a punchline!

Blogger White Devil March 16, 2016 2:52 PM  

That is actually a very funny idea. What if Trump said no to a convention?
Then they'd have to come to Trump's gold plated living room to kiss the ring. That or a Trump Rally.

Anonymous VFM #5166 March 16, 2016 2:52 PM  

Trump appears to have plagiarized a Ben Carson Op-Ed acording to the Daold Calker. How much does this hurt him?

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/16/trump-appears-to-have-heavily-plagiarized-op-ed-from-carson/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Anonymous VFM #5166 March 16, 2016 2:55 PM  

Daily Caller. Sorry. Breaking news on their page. It's an obvious plagiarism. I'm thinking Donald didn't write it, some staffer did, and is about to hear the famous words, "you're fired."

Blogger praetorian March 16, 2016 2:56 PM  

Who bitch this is?

Blogger bob k. mando March 16, 2016 2:58 PM  

10. Timmy3 March 16, 2016 2:31 PM
Many commentators are saying this because otherwise Trump can't win without Ohio.



calm down. those are projections based off of historical results; ie - no Republican has previously won the presidency without carrying Ohio.

but that's about as scientific as using the AFC / NFC winner of the Superb Owl to predict election outcomes.

the facts are that Ohio is less important than it has ever been since the Republican party has existed ( fewest Electoral College votes since 1828 ) AND "past results are no guarantee of future performance".

EC wise, Texas would be far more important to Trump than Ohio could ever pretend to be. and besides, Ohio is going to vote Hillary? uh huh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Ohio
*- The governor is a Republican, as are all other non-judicial statewide elected officials
*- In the Ohio State Senate the Republicans have firm control (23-10),
*- the Ohio House of Representatives the Republicans control the delegation (65-34).
*- The Ohio Congressional Delegation is mostly Republican; thirteen representatives are Republicans while five are Democrats.




don't run a clusterfuck candidate like Romney, Dole or McCain and Ohio will fall into line.

Anonymous 11B March 16, 2016 3:02 PM  

Trump is now tweeting that he just won Missouri.


I haven't seen any news organizations call it yet.

Anonymous Scintan March 16, 2016 3:05 PM  

just clearing a captcha glitch

Anonymous 11B March 16, 2016 3:07 PM  

Now my local radio news channel states that MO will not officially call the election for a few weeks. They are going through provisional and absentee ballots. So I guess MO will leave us hanging for a while. Somebody needs to inform Trump.

Blogger Dexter March 16, 2016 3:07 PM  

Kasich cancelling with Trump suggests he's not a serious Presidential contender. He wants to be his VP. Many commentators are saying this because otherwise Trump can't win without Ohio. Kasich is pro-amnesty so this disqualified him. Can't see how this ends well.

A pro-amnesty, Establishment-approved VP is the only way for Trump to get the Establishment, if not on his side, then not actively working against him. It would also disarm a lot of the cuck complainers.

And of course you have to remember that the VP doesn't do anything -- President Trump will determine immigration policy, not VP Kasich.

Trump isn't going to pick some off-the-wall fruitcake like Stockdale. A Republican governor in a swing state is an obvious choice.

Anonymous Fran March 16, 2016 3:17 PM  

@26
Sounds like bullshit to me.

Anonymous Fran March 16, 2016 3:20 PM  

@27
A VP doesn't do anything...except ride the incumbent's coattails into the presidency like Bush on Reagan. No Thanks.

Blogger Teri March 16, 2016 3:23 PM  

@27,

The job of the VP is to be so unacceptable as President that no one will assassinate the President (witness Joe Biden).

And damn, Stockdale was no fruitcake. He was the only guy with balls enough to turn off his hearing aides when the bullshit got too deep. And, unlike McCain, a genuine war hero.

Anonymous Til March 16, 2016 3:24 PM  

Dexter, Reagan picked establishment Bush and it got him a bullet for his trouble.

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz March 16, 2016 3:26 PM  

Winning Ohio primary is not as important as the press is trying to make it.

In 1968, Richard Nixon won the White House even though James Rhodes—the state’s governor, like Kasich—won the Ohio Republican primary.

Likewise, Dwight Eisenhower won the general election in both 1952 and 1956 even though the Ohio primaries in those years were won by Robert Taft and John Bricker, respectively. (A full list of the candidates and results for primaries 1912–2012 can be found in the CQ Press Guide to U.S. Elections.)

Read more at http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016/03/will-the-ohio-truism-continue-to-be-true/#OceuY6XhiPTyDI1Y.99


And hopefully like Ike, Trump will reinstitute "Operation Wetback"

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis March 16, 2016 3:27 PM  

@15

Now that you mention it, where I live in the PNW I have seen a Bernie Sanders bumper stickers but have yet to see a single one for Hillary.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett March 16, 2016 3:29 PM  

@30. Now you see why Trump loves the poorly educated!

Don't get me wrong, I'm pro Trump. I'm just saying Dexter's a semiliterate fruitloop.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 16, 2016 3:29 PM  

Will she also unhinge her jaw to swallow a guinea pig whole?

Anonymous Icicle March 16, 2016 3:32 PM  

Why not?

All they did was:
1. Waste Trump's time with inane gotcha questions.
2. Sandwich him with two Cubans
3. Astroturf the audience with as many aggrieved mystery meat groups as possible to complete the Cuban sandwich
4. Use moderators that think too much about period blood instead of American blood

Fuck'em.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 16, 2016 3:35 PM  

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Blogger weka March 16, 2016 3:36 PM  

Well, the shock and horror over the the Commonwealth is fun. But... the Labour leader here (Andrew Little) is now talking about limiting immigration and (despite being a union thug for most of his life) is being called a fascist by the media, who say it is a mistake.

I think he is playing smart. The rainbow system that worked in the 1990s is falling apart as the factions work up a holiness spiral until they are completely irrelevant.

But being a nationalist will work. Our Tories are globalists. And Little is enjoying being thrown in the Brier patch.

Blogger Dexter March 16, 2016 3:39 PM  

Dexter, Reagan picked establishment Bush and it got him a bullet for his trouble.

I didn't say Trump wouldn't have to watch his back for some phony scandal intended to force resignation / impeachment. Of course he would. But if that's the price of the Oval Office, then it is worth paying.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 16, 2016 3:40 PM  

Kasich has been running for VP since last spring. He didn't even bother to file for the primary in PA, though he may get the amazingly corrupt govt there to put him on the ballot anyway.
Problem for Trump is that Vice President Kasich makes it more inviting for the GOPe/Democrat party to assassinate him.

Blogger Dexter March 16, 2016 3:41 PM  

Stockdale was no fruitcake. He was the only guy with balls enough to turn off his hearing aides when the bullshit got too deep. And, unlike McCain, a genuine war hero.

Fruitcake.

Totally out of his depth as a candidate and made every voter think "who the fuck is this guy?"

Anonymous Orville March 16, 2016 3:46 PM  

The old SNL skit with Carvey as Perot trying to ditch Stockdale (Hartman) on a country road like an unwanted dog was hilarious

Blogger Otto Lamp March 16, 2016 3:48 PM  

@7

It's the assumption close.

* Technique

Act as if the other person has made the decision already.

Turn the focus of the conversation towards the next level of questions, such as how many they want, when they want it delivered, what size they need, and so on.

* How it works

The Assumptive Close works by the Assumption principle, where acting confidently as if something is true makes it difficult for the other person to deny this. For them to say you are wrong would be to cast themselves as an antisocial naysayer.

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis March 16, 2016 3:55 PM  

Trump doesn't necessarily need Ohio in the general election, so Kasich is a non-entity. I expect him to swipe New York right out from under Hillary's cankles. 29 "trumps" 16

Blogger Otto Lamp March 16, 2016 3:57 PM  

@10

Kasich is staying to deny Cruz the nomination.

If Kaisich drops out, there is an outside chance Cruz could collect enough delegates to secure the nomination. With Kasich OUT, Cruz might draw enough true-conservative/establishment/anti-Trump votes to win. With Kasich in, he won't.

Honestly, that's the only thing that makes sense to me at this point. They are putting ALL their eggs in the brokered convention basket. A brokered convention that results in neither Trump or Cruz being the nominee.

Anonymous Scott March 16, 2016 3:58 PM  

The AIPAC speech will tell us far more about the real Trump than all of the debates combined. Trump may be making Fox and the RNC his bitches, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up looking like AIPAC's bitch after all is said and done. Rumor has it Sheldon Adelson is warming up to Trump all of a sudden.

Anonymous . March 16, 2016 4:01 PM  

Kasich is staying to deny Cruz the nomination.

Which can only mean he is Trump's creature.

And therefore a likely Trump VP.

Blogger Alexander March 16, 2016 4:01 PM  

And I'm not seeing why on earth he'd give the VP slot to Kasich.

You absolutely have to have a swing-state governor? Go with Walker. Hell, break the unwritten rules of geography and go with Krispie. Make New Jersey a battleground again!

The idea that Ohio is only going to go red if they get their governor on the ticket is absurd. The idea that Ohio necessarily matters is even more absurd.

Kasich grows more odious the longer he hangs around. Unfortunately, it's the odor of the GOPe and so is a poor choice for life insurance.

Anyway, I put 'swing-state' VP down as bullshit. Maybe once upon a time. But Delaware was always going to go Blue and Wisconsin... didn't go red. Neither did Massachusetts. Neither did Michigan for that matter: Romney/Ryan went 0/3 on home turf. Obama/Biden '12 went 3/3 in HI, IL, DE... in states that would have done the same regardless of the ticket.

In '08, the McCain Palin ticket took AZ, ID, and AK... that God for home field advantage!

Bush and Cheney took TX, WY, NE

Gore lost TN.

So yeah - I'm not seeing states that would have normally voted X, but voted Y in the general election, because homeboy.

In short, screw Kasich. He's unnecessary and unappealing.

Blogger Salt March 16, 2016 4:05 PM  

Hillary will hit Trump with all the rhetoric she can muster. Mysoginist, racist, etc. Trump could pick Palin as his veep. I know I know... Palin. But why not? Trump has so far done everything against the tide.

Blogger Otto Lamp March 16, 2016 4:05 PM  

@39

Reagan picked Bush it got his legacy destroyed.

Bush rode Reagan's coattails into the Oval Office, and the moment he was elected he started undoing the good stuff Reagan implemented.

You can reasonably make the argument that the collapse of the GOP we are seeing today had it's roots in Reagan's pick of Bush for VP.

Blogger Anchorman March 16, 2016 4:13 PM  

Kasich is staying in to build up Kasich's profile, not to serve as a stalking horse or to get a VP nod.

He's wildly pro-amnesty, something Trump built clear momentum against. That wouldn't be Reagan picking Bush, it would be Romney picking Ron Paul.

Kasich wants his name around, so if Trump and/or Cruz loses, he can say he had the most votes of the also-rans.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 16, 2016 4:16 PM  

@50 Otto Lamp, you're right that Reagan's pick of Bush doomed his legacy. The general consensus at the time was that the GOPe told him that if he didn't pick Bush, they'd Goldwater him.

Something 16 years previous and fresh in lots of minds including most especially Reagan's, his "A Time for Choosing" speech knocked it out of the ballpark and led directly to his being asked to run for governor in California.

How campaigns and their communications work are very different now, and for better or worse, the GOPe is already giving Trump the Goldwater treatment.

Blogger Anchorman March 16, 2016 4:18 PM  

Honestly, Kasich going full Amnesty really surprised me, because that all but sinks a VP nod from Trump.

Blogger Student in Blue March 16, 2016 4:19 PM  

I know I know... Palin. But why not? Trump has so far done everything against the tide.

Pretty sure Trump's been shopping around for VP for a while now, and already decided against Palin after seeing how she handled the endorsement speech.

Just a guess, but I think Trump/Cruz is most likely. Rumor had it that Cruz had asked Trump for a SC spot and Trump said no dice, and this was back after the first Super Tuesday. With Cruz increasing his standing Trump is probably taking another look at what Cruz can bring to the table.

Blogger Salt March 16, 2016 4:23 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:Pretty sure Trump's been shopping around for VP for a while now, and already decided against Palin after seeing how she handled the endorsement speech.



She was good enough for McCain, so the establishment would have a hard time using her against Trump, and being female that does a number on Hillary. Also, the assassination angle... who'd want Palin?

Blogger Jack Hanson March 16, 2016 4:24 PM  

Webb would be my idea of a solid VP pick. Some of you guys are talking about swing state governors, which is tactical move. Webb not only helps lock VA, but appeals to the Reagan Dems across the nation, along with serious bonafides as an administrator and war hero.

Webb adds a touch of gravitas that makes the duo a "Fire and Ice" team that would also signal to the military the nonsense is coming to an end.

OpenID randkoch March 16, 2016 4:25 PM  

Trump can't pick Palin. He'll want a moderate to mollify the GOPe and the #NeverTrump robots.

It'll be like how McCain picked Sarah Palin to bring the conservatives around, including one-time pro-Hillary Ann Coulter.

I'm guessing Nikki Haley.

Blogger James Dixon March 16, 2016 4:27 PM  

> A pro-amnesty, Establishment-approved VP is the only way for Trump to get the Establishment, if not on his side, then not actively working against him.

Hmm. No, it wouldn't work. It might make the assassination attempts more frequent though.

> And of course you have to remember that the VP doesn't do anything

The VP is the head of the Senate anytime he shows up to claim the post. People don't seem to realize the power that entails.

Blogger James Dixon March 16, 2016 4:29 PM  

> Kasich wants his name around, so if Trump and/or Cruz loses, he can say he had the most votes of the also-rans.

Third place to second place to first place is a common pattern with Republican candidates.

Anonymous David Of One March 16, 2016 4:33 PM  

IF one considered how to better guarantee putting it to the GOPe/Cucks/Progs/Marxist alike then Cruz pitching in with Trump on a Trump/Cruz ticket would nearly guarantee the necessary delegates before the convention. Otherwise I don't see how a convention fight can be avoided and risking giving the GOPe getting want they want.

The GOPe hates Cruz infinitely more than Trump, so Cruz doesn't seem to stand a chance if this goes to the convention floor.

If Trump/Cruz work with one another then Kasich and the like can be shown where that rusty piece of metal is to be sat down hard on it.

The idea that Trump would consider brokering with some GOPe as his running-mate like Kasich, Ryan, Romney, Jebster is a very disturbing thought.

Blogger Alexander March 16, 2016 4:34 PM  

@56

Oh, please no.

I was sitting here having a hard time picking a worse governor pick than Kasich, and then you did the job for me.

Fortunately, I think there's no chance.

What I really want is Trump/Sessions, but I accept that I must not be greedy.

Blogger Salt March 16, 2016 4:36 PM  

James Dixon wrote:The VP is the head of the Senate anytime he shows up to claim the post. People don't seem to realize the power that entails.

Not all that much. The Senate Pres. is a tie-breaker.

Blogger praetorian March 16, 2016 4:36 PM  

Totally out of his depth as a candidate

'murica couldn't carry James Stockdale's jockstrap.

Blogger Teri March 16, 2016 4:37 PM  

Not Haley. She's said some very anti-Trump stuff. And folks think she caved on the Confederate flag issue.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 16, 2016 4:47 PM  

@61 I'm uncertain of the exact rules, but the President of the Senate theoretically has some procedural power. for example, Mitch McConnell, as president pro tem of the senate, is the one who receives the handoff from Obama as to the Supreme Court nomination, and decides when it is brought to the floor to proceed to various committees (hopefully never).

I am uncertain as to if Biden can show up, take the position, and move it as President of the Senate; or if that is only done by the president pro tem.

Blogger Ceasar March 16, 2016 4:48 PM  

Gee, wonder why the mailman didn't want to go one on one with Cruz? Just think, the mailman would have had over two hours to bore everyone with his 'son of a mailman' story and how he saved the country while serving in congress during Bubba Clintons reign. What a pussy.

Anonymous cincinnatus March 16, 2016 4:55 PM  

If Trump picks any well-known politician at all as his VP, rather than a dark horse, I'd bet on Newt Gingrich, personally.

Webb might be a good candidate for SecDef. His refusal to rule out voting for Trump was quite telling.

As for Kasich... I don't think he and Cruz have been going after each other for the simple reason they aren't going after the same voters. Cruz people for the most part can't stand Kasich, and vice versa.

In fact, it was far easier to squeeze Rubio out of the race, since he tried to straddle both sides of the fence.

OpenID randkoch March 16, 2016 4:57 PM  

#60 & #63:

Those are reasons #NeverTrump may come along.

There are still two fights coming. One after the nomination, and another after the inauguration. Someone like Haley could help win both of them.

Of course another insurgent might be better. It all depends on how lucky Trump feels. This isn't a race we dare lose.

Blogger Ilíon March 16, 2016 4:57 PM  

"... Trump is probably taking another look at what Cruz can bring to the table."

I for one will not be voting for any ticket with a non-natural born citizen on the ticket.

Anonymous cincinnatus March 16, 2016 4:59 PM  

Trump is now tweeting that he just won Missouri.

I haven't seen any news organizations call it yet.


@23 11B
I think it's because the Cruz campaign decided not to ask for a recount, effectively conceding the state to Trump.

Blogger Gaiseric March 16, 2016 5:05 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:Just a guess, but I think Trump/Cruz is most likely. Rumor had it that Cruz had asked Trump for a SC spot and Trump said no dice, and this was back after the first Super Tuesday. With Cruz increasing his standing Trump is probably taking another look at what Cruz can bring to the table.
I think that's a good pick for him too; but where are you hearing that rumor? I'd love to see something other than wishful thinking of us anti-Establishment guys, who give the Establishment NOTHING at all to fall back on.

Blogger James Dixon March 16, 2016 5:07 PM  

> Not all that much. The Senate Pres. is a tie-breaker.

The exact wording of the Constitution: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."

Folks here can interpret that language for themselves.

Anonymous #1037 March 16, 2016 5:08 PM  

Trump/Cena

Blogger Anchorman March 16, 2016 5:09 PM  

Mitch McConnell, as president pro tem of the senate,

Orin Hatch.

pro tem is the longest serving Senator of the majority.

Blogger Salt March 16, 2016 5:10 PM  

Trump swings... and it's a line-drive hit

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 5:23 PM  

You could argue that it is Trump taking the GOP to the woodshed, but to me it looks like Trump recognizes that Cruz would destroy him in a debate without all the other hangers-on taking up time. So the non-politician is playing politics.

Trump is playing prevent defense.

The Donald ran away, Bravely ran away....

Blogger Student in Blue March 16, 2016 5:24 PM  

@Gaiseric
I think that's a good pick for him too; but where are you hearing that rumor? I'd love to see something other than wishful thinking of us anti-Establishment guys, who give the Establishment NOTHING at all to fall back on.

That Cruz asked about a SC nom? It was something Roger Stone claimed in an interview with Alex Jones, so I was treating it as just a rumor until something more solid came along.

The rest of it was just guesswork, due to Cruz picking up more delegates than I believe Trump guessed.

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 5:24 PM  

You could argue that it is Trump taking the GOP to the woodshed, but to me it looks like Trump recognizes that Cruz would destroy him in a debate without all the other hangers-on taking up time. So the non-politician is playing politics.

Trump is playing prevent defense.

The Donald ran away, Bravely ran away....

Blogger Anchorman March 16, 2016 5:34 PM  

Sean,
I'm a Cruz supporter. I don't think Trump is ducking the debate because he's afraid of Cruz.

I think he really wants a unity push and is likely sending his folks out to eh other campaigns and GOP to get the unity push going.

He realizes teh Dem primary is over. Any further fighting in the GOP will be front page news and will allow Hillary time to better organize.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 5:38 PM  

@77 Cruz has not damaged Trump even when he tried hard during earlier debates, and he himself came off as a weasel when he was explaining in gory detail (pun intended) his position on Waterboarding. This is not an Oxford style debate, nor a courtroom. Technocrat Ted will lose to a Terse Trump.

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 5:41 PM  

I respectfully disagree. He hasn't had to offer up any substance at the debates because of all the noise. A debate with Cruz would highlight this. Cruz has been calling for this debate with Trump for weeks. The opportunity finally arrives and Trump ducks out the back door. He knows his supporters will call it exactly like Vox did. He knows there is nothing to gain because Cruz would crush him in a one on debate, that's why he bailed. He's playing politics. Hardly the bare knuckled brawler willing to take on anyone.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 5:41 PM  

Only in North Carolina did Cruz even come close to Trump. He toured IL and MO and lost both - by surprising margins - and FL and OH were never in play - Cruz was a distant third.

Trump probably calculates that he doesn't have to campaign the same way, it is his to lose, so why play the game he wants to ultimately get rid of. One thing about dealing is knowing when you are going to get what you want.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 5:49 PM  

@80 - you are getting tedious. Precisely what can Cruz say on any topic that will crush Trump? Everyone knows about both candidates views, approach, and everything else by now, if they want to know. Remember substance is visible and Trump has built a business empire, Cruz has just been mainly on the losing side of Senate battles, but he was a good Solicitor General in Texas. I doubt Trump knows how to do the electrician wiring for any of his properties, but that is not his job. Character? Cruz has lied, is a Goldman Sachs pawn (his wife is merely on leave) and likes the CFR and the North American Union and is plagiarizing Trump on immigrants and the Wall.. This is not a great constitutional conservative record.

Put differently, what is he going to say in the debate that he can't say in an attack ad?

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 6:06 PM  

I've watched/listened to every debate and I have yet to hear anything of real substance from Trump. I've heard a lot of platitudes, talking over other candidates, and insults. (Now mind you, I have not enjoyed anything politically as much as I enjoyed Trump cucking Jeb! and Rubio!).

It isn't what Cruz would say, it's how they handle the discussion and I don't believe Trump can have a substantive debate. To have this demonstrated would hurt his candidacy big time. Just my opinion.

Blogger Anchorman March 16, 2016 6:08 PM  

Technocrat Ted will lose to a Terse Trump.

Only in the "Win the crowd to win the argument" vs "Win the argument to win the crowd" sense.

C'mon. You can't seriously think Trump can out-think Cruz in a debate.

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 6:17 PM  

What's interesting is that while I think Trump is a clown, I'm not too worried about his Presidency at least while he keeps Stephen Miller on staff. I've heard him on the radio and he's awesome. He can articulate the policy the way i would want Trump do. If he was running I'd vote for him. The problem is that Stephen Millers boss can't articulate the issues and his boss could jettison him and go off in a different direction.

Blogger The Remnant March 16, 2016 6:19 PM  

Trump has become an agent of destruction of the status quo, and that's enough for me to admire him despite any and all of his faults.

Blogger LP9 Rin Integra S.I.G. March 16, 2016 6:28 PM  

Haha! Perhaps 'another' is a unknown AWCA,

So predictable of failed FOXNEWS, continued media whores! K and whomever else is left doesn't want the exposure via a debate! Ha!!

Interesting times!

Blogger LP9 Rin Integra S.I.G. March 16, 2016 6:31 PM  

No way, keep the American broads outta any office.

Germany's results were different, different leadership, similar issues but stateside women dont belong in politics AT ALL!

Come on, Trump is loose/free or his own deal!

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 6:32 PM  

@86 Agreed. It was awesome to watch hundreds of millions of GOPe dollars and years of groundwork go up in flames when Trump uttered the phrase "low energy".

Anonymous BGKB March 16, 2016 6:40 PM  

The Donald ran away, Bravely ran away....

They had an illegal alien and a moslem weave maker as part of their FOX debate panel, and stacked the audience. If they use editing control & popping up graphics like they did before he couldn't counter them (wouldn't be shown countering them). Unless every candidate gets the tickets split up between them Trump will be facing a crowd of scolds.

Blogger Sam Lively March 16, 2016 6:44 PM  

@80

The debates aren't bare-knuckled brawls. A debate with Cruz and the Fox panel would be submitting himself to a cross-examination from an extremely hostile attorney in front of a judge that has it out for him.

This is Delilah begging Samson to come and hang out for the fourth time. Only Donald thankfully seems impervious to nagging.

Anonymous VFM #6306 March 16, 2016 6:46 PM  

Cruz can't debate Trump. His rhetoric absolutely sucks in comparison, which is why he is losing to Trump in the first place.

If he had connected emotionally in the first place, he wouldn't have to "win" a war of logic.

Blogger Sean March 16, 2016 6:47 PM  

@90 Because that's not at all what the real world is like at all. It will all be Sunshine and Roses once he's elected. Good to know he can handle it now.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 16, 2016 6:48 PM  

BGKB
…scolds…

Sam Lively
…nagging…

Yes!

I spy with my little eye two memes for the rest of this campaign now that Grandma Rodan Cacklepants has shut down Grandpa Trotsky for the nomination.

Anonymous Steve March 16, 2016 6:48 PM  

Debate. Pfft.

Because the world needs more talk, right?

Trump should insist on an arm wrestling contest or nothing.

Anonymous Steve March 16, 2016 6:50 PM  

You know who else likes to debate?

Spotty teenagers who aren't getting any in high school.

Anonymous Hrw-500 March 16, 2016 6:51 PM  

@1 Broken Arrow

Looks like the blogger Captain Capitalism aka Aaron Clarey predicted Megyn Kelly's transformation.

Anonymous VFM #6306 March 16, 2016 6:56 PM  

Debates are not real world, Sean. They are teevee shows.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 6:56 PM  

Ah, Cruz apparently has a pair
and
another glidepath to the nomination delegate number analysis

Anonymous Brick Hardslab March 16, 2016 7:01 PM  

If Cruz conceded Missouri then he either didn't have the money for a recount, didn't think he needs the delegates (he'll win in a brokered convention), or maybe he's thinking about making a deal.

I hope he makes the offer. A unified party will whip the dems hard.

Blogger James Dixon March 16, 2016 7:02 PM  

> Ah, Cruz apparently has a pair

That's always been obvious. That's why his supporters like him.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner March 16, 2016 7:15 PM  

It will all be Sunshine and Roses once he's elected. Good to know he can handle it now.

He has already said he had to deal with teamsters, corrupt politicians, and Mobsters. He shouldn't have to self record a debate for fear of Sheldon Anderson editing it.

OT: Non Asian minorities protest racist standardized tests. Whitey went from Wright Bros to the moon in 60 years but no one in the world can come up with a merit based test anyone but Asians can compete with whitey on other than short distance runs & crack baby squats.
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7378

one thing they got right "The next student recited BlackOut’s list of demands, which include having the president admit the failure of the school’s diversity,"

Blogger Doom March 16, 2016 7:27 PM  

It's a wonderful thing to watch. Oh, and, yeah... they WILL be voting for him. They even try that Hillary thing they'll regret it in ways even they are beginning to understand. Just too damned many of us, when they finally started too look around. Sure, we handle their trash, press their suits, drive them, but we also guard and protect them while they sleep and otherwise. Yeah... Not a threat. But even a captain can fall down a ladder if the lights go out.

Blogger YIH March 16, 2016 7:39 PM  

Student in blue:
and already decided against Palin after seeing how she handled the endorsement speech.
I saw live streamed, whatever you think of her, she is not pleasant to listen to!
About halfway through it, Trump was obviously wincing at hearing her, you could practically see it on his face; ''Thank you Sarah, now shut up'', ''PLEASE shut up''...

Blogger Were-Puppy March 16, 2016 7:49 PM  

@26 Dexter
And of course you have to remember that the VP doesn't do anything
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He becomes president after the first guy is removed

Blogger Were-Puppy March 16, 2016 7:56 PM  

@48 Salt

Hillary will hit Trump with all the rhetoric she can muster. Mysoginist, racist, etc. Trump could pick Palin as his veep. I know I know... Palin. But why not? Trump has so far done everything against the tide.
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Palin would be good for one set of exploding heads.
Carson or Cain would be good for another set of exploding heads.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 8:36 PM  

I believe in the Red, White, and Blue!
Neck, skin, and blood, respectively.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 16, 2016 8:38 PM  

Steve wrote:You know who else likes to debate?

Spotty teenagers who aren't getting any in high school.

High school champion debater /me raises an eyebrow.
"Do tell"

Blogger Were-Puppy March 16, 2016 8:39 PM  

@53 Student in Blue
Just a guess, but I think Trump/Cruz is most likely.

@56 randkoch
I'm guessing Nikki Haley.
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Disqualify on the anchor baby and foreign born. Trump will lose a lot of his support over a move like this.

If the Cruzers are right, at least Teddy would be good assassination insurance. Unless he's the one behind it.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 8:39 PM  

@101 - in some ways, Cruz was more the Cyborg robot, counting on technology, and Robots are Wethers, Geldings or Steers or track such. Problem for those on the Sigma-omega axis.

Anonymous BGKB March 16, 2016 8:40 PM  

No wonder people like Bernie over hilLIARy, I should have just laid about all day for life with benefits like this $4,000 a month towards rent

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2016/03/rent-is-how-much.html


" Chaoshan Lai and his wife couldn’t unload the 15-year-old townhouse that they’d bought for $935,000 in Central Station, a taxpayer-subsidized development in the South Loop where former Mayor Richard M. Daley lived for years.... Lai says the woman wanted to lease his three-bedroom, three-and-a-half bath home, which has a library and is within walking distance of Soldier Field and the lakefront.

“I said, ‘You probably cannot afford the rent,’ ” Lai recalls. “But they said they have a special program in the ‘opportunity area’ that pays much better. I said, ‘Let’s give it a shot.’ ”

It ended up being a good deal for Lai. Since June 1, 2013, he’s collected more than $100,000 from the CHA, which administers public housing in Chicago for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The CHA pays him $3,911 a month in federal funds to lease his townhouse to the woman and three others in her household, including a child under the age of 6, records show.

Most coppers probably have a mortgage that is half of that $3,911 per month and they don't have a swanky million dollar Central Station townhouse. But the CHA is burning through $47 million A MONTH to subsidize this crazy type of crap.

Blogger CM March 16, 2016 8:40 PM  

Its weird hearing complaints of Trump's rhetoric when every single election cycle has been candidates spewing rhetoric playing dress up.

How many times have people complained about not debating the issues in debates? Its a game of gotcha. Notice the ones who win the debates by people's choice packs the biggest emotional punch to the gut.

Rubio, Cruz, Walker, and Paul all had their 5 minutes of fame for rhetorical punches this election cycle.

If you want substance, read their published policies.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 16, 2016 8:42 PM  

@63 Teri
Not Haley. She's said some very anti-Trump stuff. And folks think she caved on the Confederate flag issue.
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She didn't cave on it. She is an anchor baby and has no clue what the South is all about. She did that because she could get away with it.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 8:44 PM  

@108, I believe he refers to a specific curtation of "master debater".
Can you call the cops on self-domestic-abuse?
Drudge featured the ninja suited self-abuser with the request, but perhaps he should have done it in an "Identifies-as-Women"s room given the state of the WA freakshow. At some point you start to see the incineration of Sodom and Gomorrah as merciful. The living can always choose a deeper hell.

Anonymous Righty Feep March 16, 2016 8:53 PM  

Mia Love.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 16, 2016 8:55 PM  

@93 Sean
@90 Because that's not at all what the real world is like at all. It will all be Sunshine and Roses once he's elected. Good to know he can handle it now.
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I give this comment 4 out of 5 Jebs

Blogger Harsh March 16, 2016 9:05 PM  

Sean, no one gives a fuck...

Anonymous Cyclone Bob March 16, 2016 9:07 PM  

She is an anchor baby and has no clue what the South is all about. She did that because she could get away with it.


Electing a Kashmiri carpetbagger to be their governor shows that South Carolina doesnt know what the South is all about.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 16, 2016 9:08 PM  

Copy that. But no need to inflict their dummy on the rest of the nation.

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 March 16, 2016 9:11 PM  

@45

The AIPAC speech will tell us far more about the real Trump than all of the debates combined. Trump may be making Fox and the RNC his bitches, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up looking like AIPAC's bitch after all is said and done. Rumor has it Sheldon Adelson is warming up to Trump all of a sudden.

Wait, who thought it was a good idea to put Hitler in a room full of Jews?

I have no doubt he is going to sound like he is running for the US-Israeli unity government, I just hope its not awful.

Trump basically admitted that he was going to be taking big money in the general. It will probably come with the minor condemnation "I don't want them helping me. I don't need them helping me. But I can't stop them from attacking Hillary. We live in a free country."

And as long as nobody from his campaign leaves to go join a Super PAC, he could probably maintain that position.

Blogger SouthRon March 16, 2016 9:29 PM  

He goes with fucking Haley, I'm out.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 9:36 PM  

@120. The precursor to the final solution was to have those who didn't belong to retreat to their native land, where their heart desired. Trump might clarify things.

The "you must not ask" question: Islamic terrorists have launched two stealth missiles, one to Tel Aviv, one to Salt Lake City. But there is an experimental satellite which can shoot ONE down. Which one do you choose.

Alternately "How do you explain to the USA that you chose to destroy SLC to preserve TA".

Anonymous Andrew E. March 16, 2016 9:37 PM  

Trump might want to think about offering Cruz SCOTUS for his delegates if he needs them to ensure nomination. He might do it anyway to get all the TruCons on board for the general election and keep turnout high. Then during Senate confirmation hearings the Dems will pull out all that wierd 7 Kings Dominionism nonsense and 'kill all the gays' footage that made Cruz unelectable nationally in the first place. At which point Trump, having already gotten himself elected and kept his promise to Cruz, can pull the SCOTUS bid and install J. Michael Luttig instead. Win, win for everyone. Sorry Cruz.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 10:02 PM  

NR is dead, and stinks to prove it

Blogger Jack Hanson March 16, 2016 10:09 PM  

Good grief some of you people need to put aside the "We need a MINORITY!!!" paradigm and stop cucking so hard. Nikki Haley? MIA LOVE? Lmao.

Blogger tz March 16, 2016 10:24 PM  

@125 self made billionaires are a tiny minority.
I'm only affirming action is needed.

Blogger praetorian March 16, 2016 10:54 PM  

What the hell are people talking about Nimrata Nikki Randhawa for?

There's a guy... who has the rest of the GOP delegates locked up... named Ted Cruz... If he doesn't get promised the supreme court, he's obviously option 1. There are plenty of other options to bring in enough people in the general, if trump even feels he needs to do anything other than shore up the anti-incumbent turnout.

Nimrata Nikki Randhawa. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you people.

Right now, in the set of all women who might not vote for trump, there are two major types: blue hair #nevertrumps and then women "uncomfortable with the way he talks..." There is an obvious strategy for working on the latter group, and that's what a bunch of beta losers can come up with after thinking about it for a few weeks. Mr. Persuasion no doubt has even better stuff coming.

Nimrata Nikki Randhawa.

Blogger SciVo March 16, 2016 11:09 PM  

Regarding President of the Senate:

I've said before that I love the idea of Cruz as VP, if only because I think he would be dick enough to show up for his job. Let me explain.

It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to picture the Senate going ballistic over the prospect, and then trying to explain to the American people why it's a bad thing.

Tell me again how important the rules are, and then tell me again how the guy making the rulings is worth a bucket of warm spit.

But don't take my word for it. Just ask them, and watch their heads explode at the proposition.

Blogger CM March 16, 2016 11:13 PM  

There is an obvious strategy for working on the latter group, and that's what a bunch of beta losers can come up with after thinking about it for a few weeks. Mr. Persuasion no doubt has even better stuff coming.

That sounds perfect, actually. To get these women who dislike tone, Trump doesn't need to go very far to get under Hilary's skin... if he can trigger her meltdown with the least amount of his brashness, he can just look down as Hilary does the rest.

She gets creamed for tone and he walks away unscathed.

Blogger The Other Robot March 16, 2016 11:19 PM  

Argentina has sunk a Chinese fishing vessel, it seems.

Things seem to be getting hot.

Blogger SciVo March 16, 2016 11:22 PM  

@ CM:

No one likes a scoldy nag. Or is she a naggy scold? Horse or harpy, she's horrible either way.

Blogger CM March 16, 2016 11:24 PM  

Speaking of scoldy nags...

Do Twitchy commentors not get rhetoric? So much crying over there over Trump.

Blogger Student in Blue March 16, 2016 11:50 PM  

The only problem with "scold" is that it's more of a 12th Grade vocabulary, and would go over most of the electorate's heads.

Blogger Doc Rampage March 16, 2016 11:55 PM  

It's been interesting seeing how close Cruz came even with his uninspiring personality, just on the basis that he was the only sane and conservative candidate that was a strong opponent of illegal immigration. Rubio started out similar to Cruz. He's more likable, he's nearly as smart, he really knows how to connect with people, and there's no question that he's a natural born citizen. Such a waste. If he had shown the balls that Cruz did, and stood up against the gang of eight instead of deciding to get cozy with the establishment, I think Rubio would be our next president.

Blogger SciVo March 17, 2016 12:18 AM  

@ CM:

No, I don't think Twitchy gets it. I'm actually impressed at how they're trying so hard to use pure rhetoric in the service of their pure dogma.

OpenID randkoch March 17, 2016 12:22 AM  

Nikki Haley would be the gender play. I don't think most people see her as a minority -- unless she starts using the middle name Hussein.

But mostly, she's establishment. The people who program the #NeverTrump robots will need to be fed something.

Picking Cruz would stick it to the GOPe. That'll be fun for about 24 hours. I hope the campaign will last longer than that.

Blogger SciVo March 17, 2016 12:22 AM  

@ Student in Blue:

All you have to do is pair it as "moral scold" and give concrete examples like alcohol prohibition. Boom. Advertising happens because it works.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare March 17, 2016 12:47 AM  

In my opinion, Cruz couldn't give less of a shit what the "establishment" wants. He'll let them *think* he cares, maybe, but he's just using them. Heck, that almost makes it sound dirty... But yeah, I'm fairly sure Cruz is nobody's bitch. In case it was unclear, I lean towards supporting Cruz...I'm less happy about Trump, but I'd probably vote for a brain-damaged turnip before I voted for Hillary or Bernie, heh. Kasich is...yeah, no. Hell no.

Blogger praetorian March 17, 2016 12:49 AM  

> I think Rubio would be our next president.
> The people who program the #NeverTrump robots will need to be fed something.

That's cute, you two.

Hitler, do you agree with these two fellow conservatives?

Anonymous VFM #6306 March 17, 2016 1:09 AM  

Who is Nikki Haley? Trump should name his penis as VP.

America may suck, but it sucks in a good way.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 17, 2016 1:40 AM  

@128 praetorian
Nimrata Nikki Randhawa.
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Yep, I believe Linda Graham is in here posting as an alt. Nikki Hair is a no go. IF we insist on an anchor baby, then I guess Teddy would be worth a test drive.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 17, 2016 1:42 AM  

@133 CM
Do Twitchy commentors not get rhetoric? So much crying over there over Trump.
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Practice some rhetoric on them. You'll know if it was good when they get crazy about it.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 17, 2016 1:44 AM  

@135 Doc Rampage

Rubio started out similar to Cruz. He's more likable, he's nearly as smart, he really knows how to connect with people, and there's no question that he's a natural born citizen.
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I can't even /facepalm

Anonymous rubberducky March 17, 2016 1:50 AM  

A little remarked fact about the Ohio returns last night. Hillary walked away with it on the Democrat side, 57% to 43%. And Trump did limp in 10 points behind Kasich -- but Trump *still* beat Hillary. That's right Trump lost to Kasich with more votes than Hillary pulled in.

Trump: 685k, Cankles: 651k. Kasich pulled 888k.

Again, the Democrats have a very serious problem with turnout, it is way down from their last contested primary in 2008. They are in very serious trouble and the only way they can get people out is inflame them. Going to be an ugly summer.

But if Trump is the nominee we are looking at a potential GOP landslide in November right now. Don't let those hypothetical match-up polls fool you.

Blogger Samuel Nock March 17, 2016 1:50 AM  

"I will grant all illegals amnesty within 100 days of office."

That message is too opposed to Trump's vision for Kasich to have any place on the ticket.

If Trump gets the nomination without needing a brokered convention, I could see him picking Jim Webb or someone like that.

Blogger praetorian March 17, 2016 2:27 AM  

The guy that called Trump before all of us (but after /pol/) has spoken:

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/710332333673418752

"Stamina" will be what he hangs on Clinton. Doesn't have to play with female fire as with the 'nag' approach that dalrock came up with, stays within the male/female frame, comes across as almost sympathetic, one coughing fit and boom.

Love him or hate him or both at the same time (hi, #Holdmedowntrump), he's good at what he does.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 17, 2016 3:11 AM  

I give this comment 4 out of 5 Jebs

Well done. I think we have a new benchmark.

Anonymous Haxo Angmark March 17, 2016 3:37 AM  

Trump will not be the Republiscam nominee. He has aroused the sleeping Tiger of White Nationalism, and the Judeo-globalists who own the party will do whatever is necessary to deny him. If he comes to ClevCon with 1,237 delegates or more, there will be - as has already been indicated by a number of GOPe insiders - a rules change: freeing the delegates before the 1st ballot, upping the ante to 1,500, or some other Talmudic trick. The eventual ticket will be Cuck/RINO: Cruz/Kasich. The Republiscam pty will then schism and die. Excellent

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 17, 2016 4:09 AM  

Are we having a contest to see who can suggest the most repellent establishment cuck, preferably a foreigner, to be Trump's VP?

Anonymous The other robot March 17, 2016 5:55 AM  

@144: I think he's channeling Murdoch. Either that or he can't think straight because he has Rubio's cock is his mouth.

Blogger Silent Cal March 17, 2016 6:22 AM  

How about Casper the lily white wasp for vp. No foreigners, blacks, browns, or other off white colors. And no women. The women have been the ruination of this country.

Nikki Halley, Mia Love; see how feminized the country has become. Whoever made those suggestions should lose their man card.

Blogger Gaiseric March 17, 2016 7:42 AM  

randkoch wrote:Nikki Haley would be the gender play. I don't think most people see her as a minority -- unless she starts using the middle name Hussein.

But mostly, she's establishment. The people who program the #NeverTrump robots will need to be fed something.

Picking Cruz would stick it to the GOPe. That'll be fun for about 24 hours. I hope the campaign will last longer than that.

The #NeverTrump crowd doesn't need to be fed anything, because it's a "crowd" of about half a dozen people.

Math is really hard, isn't it? The two candidates who combined have something like 75-80% of the votes so far will last for about 24 hours? Because GOPe?

You ever heard the phrase garbage in, garbage out? You really need some better sources.

Blogger Anchorman March 17, 2016 8:15 AM  

"Stamina" will be what he hangs on Clinton. Doesn't have to play with female fire as with the 'nag' approach that dalrock came up with, stays within the male/female frame, comes across as almost sympathetic, one coughing fit and boom.

I agree that he could hang "stamina" on her, because almost every presidential campaign had health as the issue and it almost always compels the candidate to demonstrate fitness.

And Her Thighness ain't fit.

Still, Trump can get away with saying, "Do you really want her nagging speeches for four or eight years?" It's far more effective, because it is a truth. She's an old nag, in all sense of the word.

Anonymous BGKB March 17, 2016 8:37 AM  

The only problem with "scold" is that it's more of a 12th Grade vocabulary, and would go over most of the electorate's heads

Hopefully it is like cuckservative in that people will instinctively get it. Are scolds, harridans and hags trying to push the word out of vocabulary as they are with "bossy"? Isn't part of making America Great Again hoping more than 1/6 of the population could pass the math part of a 100year old 8th grade test?

Blogger Student in Blue March 17, 2016 9:11 AM  

@SciVo & BGKB
All you have to do is pair it as "moral scold" and give concrete examples like alcohol prohibition. Boom. Advertising happens because it works.

You still have to explain to the dumb majority that you're trying to persuade what "scold" is, which immediately hampers its organic growth.

It's like having to explain a joke's punchline - it hampers the effectiveness greatly. You want people to just get it, and unfortunately the target audience here includes a lot of very stupid people.

The group of people that cuckservative spread its usage among is not the same demographic as the general electorate, because it's the alt-right. They can handle 12th grade words.

Review the words that Trump has selected as rhetorical attacks, and they're all very simple but still very effective.

Blogger Anchorman March 17, 2016 9:27 AM  

I don't think "scold" is as mysterious to people as you think. Plus, a good many could get the meaning from context and reaction.

Blogger Gaiseric March 17, 2016 9:33 AM  

The nuance of the word scold in its original sense is lost of people. But scold as in "scolding the children" is still something everyone knows.

It won't go over anyone's head. It's just a surprise and delight easter egg aspect to it to entertain those with better vocabularies.

Anonymous BGKB March 17, 2016 9:48 AM  

While my views of non Asian minority reading ability have gone even lower since getting a t shirt that says "White Privilege Is Evolution That's Why Asians Have It Also" I just couldn't see scold as a 10cent word.

https://www.flocabulary.com/1st-grade-vocabulary-word-list/
"rough, rusty, Scold ,scratch, seed, selfish, serious,shell, shovel (verb),shriek...wicked, Yank" I will agree that the words here may be beyond inner city 12th graders.

Blogger Student in Blue March 17, 2016 10:12 AM  

@Anchorman
I don't think "scold" is as mysterious to people as you think. Plus, a good many could get the meaning from context and reaction.
@Gaiseric
The nuance of the word scold in its original sense is lost of people. But scold as in "scolding the children" is still something everyone knows.

Scold the noun is unknown. Scold the verb is somewhat, half-known.

For what it's worth, I asked my (white slightly redneck) coworker if he knew what a scold was, and he had no clue. He knew what scolding was, but didn't quite get the nuance of that either and just had a broad application.

People like my coworker are the lowest common denominator that these words have to apply to.

Anonymous BGKB March 17, 2016 10:47 AM  

I asked my (white slightly redneck) coworker if he knew what a scold was, and he had no clue

Scold, while likely only the verb, is on the 1st grade vocabulary list I showed. Please ask if he knows the following from the list. Yank, Weed(probably will give wrong answer for both),cue, dainty , dart(noun & verb)Glum.

Some others creak, timid, pest(noun & verb), Illustrator, heap, ache, grateful(something inner city adults couldn't define), sibling, sob , spiral, exclaim, sly, drowsy.

Anonymous Jimmy the Freak March 17, 2016 10:59 AM  

#1037 wrote:Trump/Cena

***** Spoiler ****** Cena wins!

Blogger Student in Blue March 17, 2016 11:03 AM  

@BGKB
Please ask if he knows the following from the list. Yank, Weed(probably will give wrong answer for both),cue, dainty , dart(noun & verb)Glum.

I'd love to because I'm curious as well now, but I can't think of a way to phrase it that won't just piss him off due to his Gamma sensitivity.

Blogger Mark Citadel March 17, 2016 3:27 PM  

Wise decision. He had nothing to gain from giving Cruz another soapbox. Best to suffocate him of media attention.

Blogger Ken Prescott March 17, 2016 7:49 PM  

The "you must not ask" question: Islamic terrorists have launched two stealth missiles, one to Tel Aviv, one to Salt Lake City. But there is an experimental satellite which can shoot ONE down. Which one do you choose.

Alternately "How do you explain to the USA that you chose to destroy SLC to preserve TA".

Hey, easy-peasey answer. The one headed to Salt Lake City gets shot down, and I fervently pray that the one headed to Tel Aviv malfunctions in such a way that Israel never knew it was there, or that the Israelis manage to shoot the thing down on their own.

Now, here's my "must not ask" question for you: all right, Salt Lake City has been saved, and Tel Aviv has disappeared in a blinding white flash. At this point, I can ask Israel to be restrained in their response, but I suspect the Israeli official response would consist of George Carlin's infamous seven words, used in multiple combinations with great enthusiasm, and then they're going to do something drastic.

Here's the "must not ask" question for you: are you willing to accept that, or are you going to demand that the United States commit its military force to stopping Israel from retaliating?

Why or why not?

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