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Saturday, March 19, 2016

Ignoring the message

David Brooks promises newfound respect for the people whose message he is refusing to receive:
The question is: Should deference be paid to this victor? Should we bow down to the judgment of these voters?

Well, some respect is in order. Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else.

Moreover, many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation. We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough. For me, it’s a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country....

Donald Trump is an affront to basic standards of honesty, virtue and citizenship. He pollutes the atmosphere in which our children are raised. He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible. In his savage regime, public life is just a dog-eat-dog war of all against all.

As the founders would have understood, he is a threat to the long and glorious experiment of American self-government. He is precisely the kind of scapegoating, promise-making, fear-driving and deceiving demagogue they feared.

Trump’s supporters deserve respect. They are left out of this economy. But Trump himself? No, not Trump, not ever.
It's amusing to Brooks declare, in the same column, that he is concerned about "a threat to the long and glorious experiment of American self-government" while wondering "should we bow down to the judgment of these voters" and ultimately concluding, no, he will not.

Brooks is an anti-democratic elitist who thinks, wrongly, that his opinion is still relevant. And, sooner or later, he will go the way of all those who set themselves in the path of a popular uprising against a corrupt and enervated elite.

Trump's supporters don't want David Brooks's respect. They want his scalp.

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Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein March 19, 2016 9:49 AM  

Donald Trump is an affront to basic standards of honesty, virtue and citizenship. He pollutes the atmosphere in which our children are raised. He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible. In his savage regime, public life is just a dog-eat-dog war of all against all.

Hey, David Brooks:
FUCK OFF!

Blogger rumpole5 March 19, 2016 9:53 AM  

They just don't understand that our basic gut reaction to them is "eat dirt and die" accompanied by a mental picture of Mussolini hanging upside down with his mistress. I don't like this gut response because I am a Christian, but they have betrayed us over and over since Bush 1 took office.

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2016 9:55 AM  

Sometime in the distant future, there will be a Cuckservative Hall of Shame, to detail and ensure we don't forget the mistakes we made. David Brooks will have a complete wing.

Anonymous BGKB March 19, 2016 9:58 AM  

As if leftists respected any republican president. If they know of Lincoln they probably think he was a dem.

As the founders would have understood, people like Brooks should be drawn and quartered.

Blogger Verne March 19, 2016 9:58 AM  

David Brooks is the perfect example of someone who is so culturally isolated, that he has no way to be in touch with the average man in the USA. We might as well be tribesmen in papua new guinea. He simply does not know us.

But I give him this. He is one of the few media elitists in the USA who at least suspects that he is out of touch with the everyday man. What he doesn't understand is that he is not even living on the same planet.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 19, 2016 10:01 AM  

Speaking of someone "ignoring the message":

"One Senate leadership aide said that lawmakers had been trying to reach out to Cruz in recent days, but had been unable to get their phone calls returned or had been rebuffed by Cruz’s top aides"

That's disputed, but the "message" is pretty clear, when the GOPe comes calling, we hang up the phone.

Blogger Jakeithus March 19, 2016 10:02 AM  

Political civility and real conversation between left and right have been dead for years, and it wasn't Donald Trump who killed them. For the Left, public life has always been a brutal contest of the will to power, and many on the right are just starting to wake up to this.

Brooks might still be able to pretend there are basic rules of civility between political foes, since there very well might be amongst his liberal elitist peers for someone as appeasing and moderate as he is. That civility disappears into shrieks of racism, sexism, homophobia and a desire to totally destroy as soon as a view is expressed that truly contradicts the leftist worldview, which Brooks would know if he actually held any substantive disagreements with them.

Trump is one of the first candidates who seems to understand the unspoken rules of civility are being ignored by the left and has conducted himself accordingly.

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2016 10:03 AM  

> We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough.

David Brooks leave his liberal utopia and mingle with the hoi polloi. Yeah, that's going to happen.

Blogger Rantor March 19, 2016 10:04 AM  

Unspoken rules of civility? Why NRO spends more time attacking Trump than Obama??

Blogger Salt March 19, 2016 10:05 AM  

Donald Trump is an affront to basic standards of honesty, virtue and citizenship.

And the cuckservatives, betraying everything they said they stood for, are not? Brooks is laughable.

Blogger Dexter March 19, 2016 10:10 AM  

Gee does this mean Brooks won't admire Trump's pant leg?

"I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country...."

You've never bothered about accurate reporting before, why worry about it now?

"He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible."

The Left's definition of civility: "shut up and listen while we lecture you."

The Left's definition of conversation: "shut up and listen while we lecture you."

Blogger Dexter March 19, 2016 10:13 AM  

They just don't understand that our basic gut reaction to them is "eat dirt and die" accompanied by a mental picture of Mussolini hanging upside down with his mistress.

My mental image is more along the lines of the dirty war in Argentina - i.e., the ramp of a cargo aircraft opening and the bodies of Brooks and the rest of the NYT staff being thrown out over the ocean from high altitude.

Ain't just one guy who needs hanging, so the process needs to be more efficient.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 19, 2016 10:15 AM  

Brooks is not a cuckservative he is a zionist and dishonest at that. I for one admire much about zionism but Brooks and his Earthbound messiah act I can do without. He is just trying to measure out the new political center between the new nobility of the protected classes and us non-protected lessers

Blogger Anonymous-9 March 19, 2016 10:22 AM  

David Brooks sounds more like the Dowager Countess from Downton Abbey than a journalist. After ignoring millions of people crying out for help, year after year, now Brooks pays lip service to the fact that he might not have been "socially intermingled" enough. Your re-education has just begun, David. Enjoy the cloistered view from the abbey while you still have it.

Blogger The Remnant March 19, 2016 10:22 AM  

I'm hearing a lot of similar comments from my friends, fretting about how crude or "violent" Trump is. They don't get it that the system has been crude and violent for a long time now, detached from the rule of law, and that the civility they crave was a thin veneer. With Trump, at least the veneer is gone, which strikes me as an improvement.

Blogger pyrrhus March 19, 2016 10:26 AM  

Brooks is a Canadian whose son is an Israeli soldier....of course he doesn't get it...

Blogger Fatherless MRA March 19, 2016 10:28 AM  

"In his savage regime, public life is just a dog-eat-dog war of all against all."

Peasant revolts are not known for their aesthetics.

Blogger Fatherless MRA March 19, 2016 10:29 AM  

"He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible."

Trumps crudeness is saying what those rules out loud, and nothing more.

Blogger MATT March 19, 2016 10:31 AM  

Scalped by callused hands

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir March 19, 2016 10:33 AM  

"The question is: Should deference be paid to this victor? Should we bow down to the judgment of these voters?"

The answer is: An ever-dwindling number of people gives a rat's ass what your question is. You and your ilk are fading fast.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2016 10:35 AM  

" He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible. "

oh for fucks sake.

Unspoken rules of civility?

The Founding Fathers killed each other duels you moron. Fist fights and actual beatings happened relatively frequently in congress at that time.

God these people's notions of history are something akin to a disney movie.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 19, 2016 10:36 AM  

For me, it’s a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country….

Since when has David Brooks reported anything accurately on the US? Since when has any journo-list wanted or even attempted to report accurately on this foreign, flyover country?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 19, 2016 10:41 AM  

For me, it’s a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country….

Since when has David Brooks reported anything accurately on the US? Since when has any journo-list wanted or even attempted to report accurately on this foreign, flyover country?

Blogger Michael Maier March 19, 2016 10:43 AM  

I feel as though I should know who David Brooks is but Googling provided no memory sparks.

Why should we care what this bitch thinks?

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 19, 2016 10:48 AM  

He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible. In his savage regime, public life is just a dog-eat-dog war of all against all.

No, he is refusing to be bound by rules that apply to one side and one side only. These "rules" were norms enforced by a monolithic media, used to handicap the side they disapproved of, and never, ever, ever enforced on the side they favored.

Trump's insight is realizing that he is famous enough, and the media is now so fragmented, that those norms can no longer be enforced. In fact, considering the anger of the people he represents, "civility" would be counter productive.

They are mad as hell and aren't going to take it any more.

Anonymous VFM #6306 March 19, 2016 10:50 AM  

Should David Brooks be hanged or shot? Twice in the head for doublemindedness makes sense, but there is poetic justice in literally choking a chicken.

What a pundit's dilemma!

Blogger Chase March 19, 2016 10:52 AM  

Absurd. The idea that civil conversation was possible even before Trump is just not true. The left and SJWs in particular have seen to that.

Blogger Salt March 19, 2016 10:55 AM  

Nate wrote:The Founding Fathers killed each other duels you moron.

Quite civil, don't you think?

Blogger Clint March 19, 2016 10:57 AM  

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Blogger dienw March 19, 2016 10:58 AM  

David Brooks must not like the crease of Trumps pants.

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis Fulminata March 19, 2016 10:59 AM  

Hey Josh

Blogger S1AL March 19, 2016 11:01 AM  

Hey now, there's nothing wrong with being an anti-democratic elitist.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 19, 2016 11:04 AM  

Nate wrote:The Founding Fathers killed each other duels you moron. Fist fights and actual beatings happened relatively frequently in congress at that time.

And the most famous of those beatings was the thrashing of Sumner by a patriot named Brooks. "In his view, Sumner was no gentleman; no better than a drunkard, due to his supposedly coarse and insulting language toward Butler. Brooks then decided to "punish" Sumner with a public beating."

I wonder how man whacks Preston Brooks would give David Brooks?

Blogger Chris Mallory March 19, 2016 11:07 AM  

Michael Maier wrote:I feel as though I should know who David Brooks is but Googling provided no memory sparks.

Why should we care what this bitch thinks?


David Brooks' claim to fame is his annual column where he opines on how the problems in the US are not caused by the elites, but by average Americans not bowing and scraping like good serfs. He thinks if the American people would just listen to their "betters" then every thing would be A-OK.

Blogger Clint March 19, 2016 11:09 AM  

I have ignored Brooks for years. He is let of the problem, as this article shows.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein March 19, 2016 11:16 AM  

Nate wrote:" He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible. "

oh for fucks sake.

Unspoken rules of civility?

The Founding Fathers killed each other duels you moron. Fist fights and actual beatings happened relatively frequently in congress at that time.

God these people's notions of history are something akin to a disney movie.



May the ghost of South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks visit David Brooks and teach him a bit about old school political civility...

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein March 19, 2016 11:18 AM  

Sorry, Chris (was typing while you were posting)....you stole my thunder!

Anonymous Curlytop March 19, 2016 11:19 AM  

This "basic rules of civility" rhetoric is amusing especially coming from employees of a Fox corporation. FX shows push the envelope as far as they can go w sexual content and violence. Murdoch's massive porn empire is well documented. So spare us the vapors over a mere comment at a rally that is VERY tame given past references. When the Fox pundits were fretting over the "Romney on his knees" comment by Trump, my mom noted that in 1972', the big Nixon slogan bandied about was:
"Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw, vote Nixon in 72."

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 19, 2016 11:19 AM  


Trump's supporters don't want David Brooks's respect. They want his scalp.


I see what you did there.

Anonymous First Order March 19, 2016 11:29 AM  

"Should we bow down to the judgment of these voters?"


All remaining systems will bow to the First Order! And will remember this... as the last days of the Republican Establishment!

Blogger Stephen Davenport March 19, 2016 11:29 AM  

They don't get it, most of the "right leaning" media are going to get culled in the next year or so, for what they have done. You do not see the socialists..oops democrats eating their own, yet the these idiots are hyperventilating and gnashing their teeth because they no longer control the message, and their careers are on a downward trajectory.

Anonymous JamesD March 19, 2016 11:30 AM  

Brooks is an anti-democratic elitist who thinks, wrongly, that his opinion is still relevant.

That about nails it. I love the excuse making, or perhaps better, rationalization. The theme will be the "alienated" and talk about how the American "system" doesn't work for us. I happen to make a decent wage. My life is pretty good. And I support Trump.

Anonymous Gen. Kong March 19, 2016 11:37 AM  

Brooks is an alien usurper - a dual-citizen - who should be stripped of his American citizenship, have his stolen assets taken, and deported to the country where his real loyalties lie. Living proof of the total fallacy of the magic dirt theory.

Blogger Rantor March 19, 2016 11:39 AM  

Did Brooks get all upset when Obama told his follower to bring a Gun to a knife fight? No, this is what David Brooks thinks of the Obamas:

"The first and most important of these is basic integrity. The Obama administration has been remarkably scandal-free. Think of the way Iran-contra or the Lewinsky scandals swallowed years from Reagan and Clinton."

Only scandal free because the press has ignored his overreach, his ignoring judicial decrees, Hillary's email, Obamacare's failings, bankruptcies, pro-Islam stances and pretending terror is something it is not... all of these could be scandals, but the press won't go there.

Anonymous JamesD March 19, 2016 11:39 AM  

They don't get it that the system has been crude and violent for a long time now, Arkansas security detail stated that Hillary cusses like a sailor. Then there's the body count the Clinton's left behind.

Anonymous JamesD March 19, 2016 11:42 AM  

"The first and most important of these is basic integrity. The Obama administration has been remarkably scandal-free.
Good catch. Fast and Furious? IRS Scandal? Solyndra? Nothing to see here. Move along.

Anonymous Gen. Kong March 19, 2016 11:46 AM  

Nate: God these people's notions of history are something akin to a disney movie.

There's a reason for that. It's called believing your own BS. Brooks has nothing in common with the founders. I don't give him that much credit though. He doesn't actually believe that fairy tale his friends and relatives sold to the chumps. On the contrary, his belief in his own superiority comes through loud and clear. He's unhappy because cracks are starting to appear in the carefully constructed narrative (one of whose components is magic dirt) and the chumps are starting to wake up in more significant number than ever before.

Blogger Moor March 19, 2016 11:50 AM  

He talks about Trump and his "dog eat dog" approach as if it is in some way different from what other politicians do. What a farce.

Anonymous Commander K March 19, 2016 11:51 AM  

"For me, it’s a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country..."
But you can be pretty much be certain that it won't. What's he going to do, turn up to a trump rally and stick a mike in the face of a Trump supporter? Bah.

Honestly, I think it be hard to overestimate how overimportant NYT editorial writers think their opinions are. It's like the emperor with no clothes or something- David worries about damage to his journalistic integrity, when that integrity never existed anyways.

Blogger Harsh March 19, 2016 11:54 AM  

The conservative movement is dead. We just have to remember to bury the stinking corpse.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar March 19, 2016 11:57 AM  

Pardon me while I play the Grande Piano. What a fruity tooty little poof this guy is huh? His civility hasn't been seen in years. The New York Times should be called Pravda, or the Walter Duranty Disinfo Society.
The Dinosaur Media has become an echo chamber. Those token conservatives are just Bohemian pop tarts who aren't cool enough to join the marxist social club. They want so much to be admired by the champagne socialists, they only disagree and bad mouth conservatives.

Anonymous Wilbur Hassenfus March 19, 2016 12:12 PM  

With that "war of all against all" stuff, it sounds like he's almost got it: It's been a war on one side for a long time. Trump's success is us finally fighting back.

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 19, 2016 12:14 PM  

I am starting to think a third party run by a cuck may be the best scenario (if Trump could still win). They are so detached from reality that only a run by a Kasich type that only generates low single digit support would convince them to move over with the Dems and the left where they belong. The establishment right seems to be composed almost entirely of those who are either militantly left wing or simply corrupt. They needed to be purged.

Blogger Zen Trader March 19, 2016 12:19 PM  

You know, I had an idea just now. So, idiot leftists are calling Trump "Drumpf," which is bizarre as that was an earlier version of his last name which was changed in the late 1600s. Yes, that's right, over 100 years before the Declaration of Independence.

Now, what's interesting is that some of the biggest proponents of this are, shall we say, of an ethnic group that changes last names like most people change clothes.

So, should we start digging up archaic versions of their own last names from hundreds of years ago and forcing them to be associated with it? I think we'd be fascinated by what we found!

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 19, 2016 12:21 PM  

And his real objection isn't to Trump's tone or lack of civility. It is to his nationalism. If Trump were being as combative but focusing on defending Israel, starting Middle East adventures and loving third world migrants, he would be praising Trump as a tough straight talker.

Blogger VFM #7191 March 19, 2016 12:31 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Should David Brooks be hanged or shot? Twice in the head for doublemindedness makes sense, but there is poetic justice in literally choking a chicken.

What a pundit's dilemma!


Throwing him out of a helicopter would be more fun.

Blogger Dr. Mabuse March 19, 2016 12:32 PM  

"many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation."

No, they counted on the assumption that the dispossessed COULDN'T express their alienation. That without money or elite influence, they'd be locked in their lower sphere forever. Picture a fuzzy slipper stomping on a human face, forever. But as Archimedes said, "Give me a place to stand and I will move the Earth." Trump finally gave the "losers" a firm place to stand and their force on the other end of the lever is pushing the establishment off its foundation.

Blogger Cecil Henry March 19, 2016 12:32 PM  

Translation: Democracy and consent is for those I agree with.

Its force and coercion for everyone else.

Nobody is a bigger bully than liberals and big government.

When voting matters they don't let us do it.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 19, 2016 12:35 PM  

Brooks and the other media elites don't know any real Americans outside their circle. Even their servants are illegal immigrants from another culture as they will rarely hire even black people anymore.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 19, 2016 12:38 PM  

Physically hurting that d-bag is totally counter productive deportation and assets forfeiture to compensate for his crimes is the proper response. No martyrdom for him only his being an anchor about the necks of people who would act like him

Blogger Gilbert Ratchet March 19, 2016 12:38 PM  

In fairness, Brooks has made *some* effort to mingle with the folks in flyover country. I enjoyed his "One Nation, Slightly Divisible," for instance.

But yeah, I can't help but notice selective enforcement of these "unspoken rules of political civility," whatever they are.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau March 19, 2016 12:45 PM  

Brooks and the other media elites don't know any real Americans outside their circle. Even their servants are illegal immigrants from another culture as they will rarely hire even black people anymore.

Blogger Dr. Mabuse March 19, 2016 12:51 PM  

The "Drumpf" thing makes no sense to me at all. Honestly, *what is the point*? How is this "telling"? This isn't the first time I've been confronted by people who seem utterly sure that they're making some conclusive argument, which is totally invisible to me. When Romney ran in 2012, the Left exploded over "women in binders" as if it were a smoking gun. I couldn't fathom what was supposedly being "proved" by those words, and nobody would explain it. I don't think there WAS an explanation. There seems to be a subterranean current of hysteria abroad, which any random phrase can trigger. The hysterics are in their own closed world of codes and mutually understood meanings, and don't realize or care that their facts don't exist outside their own minds.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 19, 2016 1:02 PM  

The left's definition of conversation: bend over, take the lashes we give you and then say "thank you Sir, may I have another?"

Anonymous Ned C. March 19, 2016 1:03 PM  

His nuts.

Blogger Dexter March 19, 2016 1:23 PM  

Glenn Cuck white knights....

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-tears-into-trump-over-megyn-attacks-were-you-deeply-hurt-as-a-child/

An open letter to Donald Trump.
Donald,
I read your string of really sad and sick tweets against Megyn Kelly. First let me say this: Leave Megyn Kelly ALONE.
She is brilliant, honest and brave.
I can only imagine the amount of security this mother of three now needs because Donald Trump has gone over the edge with some revenge drama just because she asked a fair question almost half a year ago!
Should a presidential candidate be so thin skinned that he must belittle, abuse and threaten women?
Will we really vote for you? A man who abuses anyone who doesn’t kiss his ring?

Blogger LonestarWhacko March 19, 2016 1:32 PM  

The only reason Sumner survived the beating was the cudgel broke. Sumner was a mouthy coward who wouldn't duel, iirc. This whole situation reminds me of the Spanish Civil War. As passions build up, mouthy leftists are going to meet nasty folks who'll water board them in the very least. Pay attention.....things will have kicked off when groups of folks are found.....hands bound and executed. Argentina had a real severe problem with a marxist insurgency....."flying lessons" we're the easiest manner of disposal. They raised a crop of fat sharks though.

Blogger LonestarWhacko March 19, 2016 1:36 PM  

Leftist women aren't feminine. Feminists aren't really human. As men realize that, well.....the crows need to eat, don't they?

Blogger Polynices March 19, 2016 1:37 PM  

With how intolerant the left is of any dissent, I'd imagine there are more Trump supporters around Brooks than he realizes but they stay quiet (until they get into the voting booth).

Blogger LonestarWhacko March 19, 2016 1:42 PM  

Yeah....it's hell when the rabbit has a gun. Black knights! Be the subversive worm you were meant to be.

Blogger rcocean March 19, 2016 1:47 PM  

The sad thing about 21st America is that we have to talk about Stupid people - like David Brooks. Who elected him to anything? Who likes him, outside of his NYT readership? Yet, because of MSM media power, we have to listen and react.

Blogger Lovekraft March 19, 2016 1:47 PM  

"Donald Trump is an affront to basic standards of honesty, virtue and citizenship. He pollutes the atmosphere in which our children are raised."

This line had impact not for the Trump voters, but for his own people. Seeing the desperate situation he and his ilk are in reduces him to a latte-fuelled call to arms.

If he really wants to be able to report as a journalist, he should think about how his own left-wing views are the problem.

Blogger rcocean March 19, 2016 1:48 PM  

Didn't Brooks vote for Obama? Isn't his kid in the Israeli army? Isn't he in favor of open borders and bad trade deals? Why is he called "conservative"?

Blogger rcocean March 19, 2016 1:50 PM  

Public 'civility' was destroyed under Bill Clinton. The idea of someone being "Presidential" died with Monica Lewinsky, and everyone lies about sex.

Blogger RobertT March 19, 2016 1:52 PM  

David Brooks. Total Yoyo.

Blogger RobertT March 19, 2016 1:52 PM  

David Brooks. Total Yoyo.

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident March 19, 2016 1:54 PM  

As Ace noted some time ago: David Brooks wants a government program to introduce him to his doorman.

It's a shame about Ace's TDS; he's got a bad case of it.

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2016 1:56 PM  

> In fairness, Brooks has made *some* effort to mingle with the folks in flyover country.

A day trip, or even an overnight one for site seeing in order to write a column isn't much of an effort. John Kerry stopped at a Wendy's restaurant once. Remember how well that worked out. Brooks' efforts are about as impressive.

Blogger Jon M March 19, 2016 2:00 PM  

"[He] is a threat to the long and glorious experiment of American self-government."

The governed choosing a leader for themself is a threat to self-governance. That doesn't even make enough sense to qualify as wrong.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 19, 2016 2:01 PM  

Peasant revolts are not known for their aesthetics.

Except this isn't a revolt of the peasants - it's a revolt of the yeomanry against people trying to turn them into peasants.

But that doesn't change your point. It won't be any less ugly. Just more efficient.

Anonymous Josh March 19, 2016 2:05 PM  

Muh civility!

Muh fainting couch!

Blogger Joe Cavanaugh March 19, 2016 2:10 PM  

I am a Trump supporter. I am an average 46 yr old straight white male, catholic. There are tens of millions of me in this country. Let me just say I have never been anti-semitic....until recently. Anti-semitism doesn't run in my family. But this guy Brooks, who Steve Sailer has reported has his son enlisted in the Israeli Army, is really starting to piss me off. Yes, I want Brooks' jewy scalp. I want to raise to his head on a pike.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 2:17 PM  

rcocean wrote:Didn't Brooks vote for Obama? Isn't his kid in the Israeli army? Isn't he in favor of open borders and bad trade deals? Why is he called "conservative"?

He thinks we should talk about lowering taxes slightly on the upper-upper-middle-class.
Oh, and WE MUST UTTERLY DESTROY IRAN AND SYRIA, LEAVING NOTHING BUT CRATERS AND BONES!!!

So, obviously, conservative.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 2:18 PM  

Joe Cavanaugh wrote:Yes, I want Brooks' jewy scalp. I want to raise to his head on a pike.
I was raised not to be anti-semitic, but damn, they won't let me, will they?

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 2:31 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough.

David Brooks leave his liberal utopia and mingle with the hoi polloi. Yeah, that's going to happen.


Ha! Oh man, I'm trying to picture him joining me tonight at the saloon where they throw peanut shells on the floor, and it is to laugh. As if he would let his expensive Italian shoes touch that floor! Ha.

OpenID denektenorsk March 19, 2016 2:43 PM  

This contrition to the voters seems to be a new talking point, I've just read it elsewhere:

http://www.aei.org/publication/trumps-america/

OpenID denektenorsk March 19, 2016 2:50 PM  

@23

I feel as though I should know who David Brooks is but Googling provided no memory sparks.

Why should we care what this bitch thinks?


Because he says so, obviously. Remember, our betters know better.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 2:55 PM  

denektenorsk wrote:This contrition to the voters seems to be a new talking point,

"We're sorta sorry we ignored you, except when we sneered at and vilified you.
We promise to do better, sometime in the indefinite future. We good now?"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 2:58 PM  

denektenorsk wrote:This contrition to the voters seems to be a new talking point,
Did you read that turd?
"Only #NeverTrump are real Americans, Trumpers might as well be BernieBros. We'll have to put up with them until we can find a way to co-opt them."

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 3:11 PM  

Zen Trader wrote:You know, I had an idea just now. So, idiot leftists are calling Trump "Drumpf," which is bizarre as that was an earlier version of his last name which was changed in the late 1600s. Yes, that's right, over 100 years before the Declaration of Independence.

Now, what's interesting is that some of the biggest proponents of this are, shall we say, of an ethnic group that changes last names like most people change clothes.

So, should we start digging up archaic versions of their own last names from hundreds of years ago and forcing them to be associated with it? I think we'd be fascinated by what we found!


Yes. What (((they))) don't seem to realize is that in our culture, turnabout is fair play.

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 3:18 PM  

Dr. Mabuse wrote:The "Drumpf" thing makes no sense to me at all. Honestly, *what is the point*? How is this "telling"? This isn't the first time I've been confronted by people who seem utterly sure that they're making some conclusive argument, which is totally invisible to me. When Romney ran in 2012, the Left exploded over "women in binders" as if it were a smoking gun. I couldn't fathom what was supposedly being "proved" by those words, and nobody would explain it. I don't think there WAS an explanation. There seems to be a subterranean current of hysteria abroad, which any random phrase can trigger. The hysterics are in their own closed world of codes and mutually understood meanings, and don't realize or care that their facts don't exist outside their own minds.

Yes, "Drumpf" is a sign of an anti-German racist. That they're unconscious of it is telling.

Anonymous Alice De Goon March 19, 2016 3:18 PM  

"As the founders would have understood, he is a threat to the long and glorious experiment of American self-government."

Is that the experiment where your country's borders get thrown open like the legs of a Tijuana Whore on Donkey Discount Night? Is that the experiment where you get bent over the table by a bank and are forced to train the foreign scabs whom your employers hired to replace you?

Because that's the kind of experiment whose proposal letter would have the name "Josef Mengele" written at the top of it. (At least the REAL Mengele, insane as he was, cared about his OWN country....)

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 3:20 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Joe Cavanaugh wrote:Yes, I want Brooks' jewy scalp. I want to raise to his head on a pike.

I was raised not to be anti-semitic, but damn, they won't let me, will they?


No. No, they will not. They will work very hard to make you care.

Anonymous Alice De Goon March 19, 2016 3:20 PM  

Yes, "Drumpf" is a sign of an anti-German racist. That they're unconscious of it is telling.

Someone should tell those mean nasty leftists that "Deadnaming" is wrong and that people should be called by the name they identify with.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 19, 2016 3:48 PM  

Dexter wrote:Glenn Cuck white knights....

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-tears-into-trump-over-megyn-attacks-were-you-deeply-hurt-as-a-child/


Why does this remind me of "Leave Britney Alone (Complete)" https://youtu.be/WqSTXuJeTks

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 19, 2016 3:50 PM  

Enough of the anti-semetism 101 it is simply enough to say we would greatly appreciate he go heal the world somewhere else and leave us the fuck alone. If antisemitic rhetoric was a cure for Western civ we would all be at the beach living large, but it seems not to be the magic we need

Anonymous DC (#sqrt(-1)) March 19, 2016 3:57 PM  

The whole Drumpf thing came from some idiot's show, "Last Week Tonight", or some such, wherein he spammed a bunch of lies about Trump and his ethnic background and was of course lionized for his "epic takedown" by all the usual suspects.

Stefan Molyneaux had a great rebuttal to it, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf3vW0e_Wgc

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 4:05 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:If antisemitic rhetoric was a cure for Western civ we would all be at the beach living large,
Only if you believe the rhetoric.

Anonymous Discard March 19, 2016 4:07 PM  

85. Denektenorsk: I read your link. Charles Murray appears to believe that the "New Americans" are even better that the old, White, Americans. Scum.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein March 19, 2016 4:24 PM  

SciVo wrote:James Dixon wrote:> We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough.

David Brooks leave his liberal utopia and mingle with the hoi polloi. Yeah, that's going to happen.


Ha! Oh man, I'm trying to picture him joining me tonight at the saloon where they throw peanut shells on the floor, and it is to laugh. As if he would let his expensive Italian shoes touch that floor! Ha.


PRO TIP:
Be careful dissing Italian footwear around these parts, Chief. Same goes for umbrella drinks and soccer.

Blogger kh123 March 19, 2016 4:29 PM  

@53, @62,

"The "Drumpf" thing makes no sense to me at all. Honestly, *what is the point*? How is this "telling"? "

It's inept rhetoric, an attempt at how Barrack Hussein Soetoro was used. Notice also how the latter was able to make the point without having to reach back in time before the magic of flush toilets.

Blogger Harsh March 19, 2016 4:31 PM  

The whole Drumpf thing came from some idiot's show, "Last Week Tonight", or some such, wherein he spammed a bunch of lies about Trump and his ethnic background and was of course lionized for his "epic takedown" by all the usual suspects.

Trump's obvious move is to get a bunch of t-shirts printed up that say "Vote Drumpf!"

Blogger kh123 March 19, 2016 4:41 PM  

"They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else."

Another inept attempt at using leftover rhetorical tools the other side has dropped while on the march back home. The shiny victim card, to show how much he cares while crushing the head of the adversary underneath the lightest of loafers. Possibly even a few peanut shells.

Which, given Brooks' dissimulating roots, also comes across as condescending while at the same time complimenting. L'chaim, David.

"Donald Trump is an affront to basic standards of... citizenship.

Would this be before or after he's hopped around from Occidental to Waziristan on an Indonesian passport.

Blogger Teri March 19, 2016 4:52 PM  

The worst thing is that Peggy Noonan did a good article on the protected vs the unprotected about a month ago. She actually talks to people that aren't from her class. She even went on the Sunday political shows to explain. Brooks not only doesn't talk to folks "beneath" him. He doesn't even talk to other commentators.

Anonymous Millenium March 19, 2016 4:55 PM  

Trump's supporters don't want David Brooks's respect.

(((Brooks))) isn't offering his respect. If you reread it you will see is doing the typical feminist trick of substituting the meaning of the word with his own meaning:

Trump’s supporters deserve respect. They are left out of this economy.

(((Brooks))) is using the word respect to mean, at best, acknowledgment. At worst he is using it to mean pity or condescension.

(((Brooks))) needs to go home to where his true loyalties are.

Vote Trump 2016. Make Journalism Great Again.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 19, 2016 4:59 PM  

Hanging, firing squads, and pikes all have their own charm. But the thought of Brooks, Kristol, Kagan, et al wearing burlap tunics and hoeing soybeans, chopping cotton, or cutting tobacco in the blazing sun in return for a bowl of weak pork soup makes me smile. Krauthammer would make a good doorstop or maybe gator bait.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 19, 2016 5:27 PM  

The Drumpf thing came from John Oliver, who got it from his writer, Josh (((Gondelman))). Yep, every.damn.time. "pot, meet kettle"

Anonymous Cheddarman March 19, 2016 5:31 PM  

Jews like Brooks are morons. It never helps the Jews when they work against the interests of the majority culture. The Jews probably won't be welcome in the nation's that will comprise north America in a generation or so. Sadly a lot of decent jews are going to suffer when the ethnic cleansing happens in the US. I have 1st cousins who will feel the pain, and they are decent people.

Blogger Sheila4g March 19, 2016 5:41 PM  

As so many others have noted far more wittily than I, Brooks is another in a long line of (((opinionati))) who can't help revealing his moue of distaste even as he claims to understand why the peasants are revolting.

Here is an absolutely brilliant response/rebuttal to that view of man as a fungible economic unit - recently expressed by mulatto Kevin Williamson with vile contempt for the White working class which generally supports Trump - at Free Northerner, re "Homo Economicus."

Anonymous redsash March 19, 2016 5:52 PM  

The Chinese have cats that glow green in the dark. The idea of a glowing Brooks and his kind, handcuffed together, strung around a Christmas tree on the White House lawn appeals to both my sense of humor and justice.

Anonymous redsash March 19, 2016 6:05 PM  

The Chinese have cats that glow in the dark. The idea of a glowing Brooks and his kind, handcuffed together, strung around a Christmas tree on the White House lawn appeals both to my sense of humor and justice.

Blogger Jourdan March 19, 2016 6:17 PM  

Brooks' son served in another country's military.

Brooks' employer was saved by a bail-out from another country's billionaire.

Brooks' writing posits that there is something wrong with Americans "out there" somewhere.

How does the elite not see this is a recipe for revolution?

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 6:20 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Enough of the anti-semetism 101 it is simply enough to say we would greatly appreciate he go heal the world somewhere else and leave us the fuck alone. If antisemitic rhetoric was a cure for Western civ we would all be at the beach living large, but it seems not to be the magic we need

Oh, if only David Brooks would just come out of the closet and confess that he doesn't understand the majority of Americans -- let alone the majority of conservatives -- because he's a tikkun olam faggot! But no, it isn't that simple.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab March 19, 2016 6:28 PM  

Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection wrote something similar although he was sincere. The comments including some of the writers for his site were full of trashing Trump and his supporters.

They've convinced themselves they are the defenders of America against Trump and his supporters and any slanders are justified.

They're sure anyone who supports Trump is a authoritarian who wants another Hitler.

Blogger rumpole5 March 19, 2016 6:46 PM  

A grammar note to the D ilk: "hoi" is a definite article in Greek (like "the" is in English) therefore, just say "hoi polloi", not THE hoi polloi. I copied this from a Google tome: "Thus, for those who know their Greek, the expression the hoi polloi is a redundancy meaning "the the masses.""

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 6:47 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:Peasant revolts are not known for their aesthetics.

Except this isn't a revolt of the peasants - it's a revolt of the yeomanry against people trying to turn them into peasants.

But that doesn't change your point. It won't be any less ugly. Just more efficient.


Thank you for "yeoman". One of my liberal friends actually made his own AR-15 lower receiver. Because that's just how we roll here.

Blogger kh123 March 19, 2016 6:55 PM  

"it seems not to be the magic we need "

No, but to a people who've been denied any form of noticing - much less criticizing - the alchemists at large, it's one that is craved, effective or no. Same with laying waste and salting the magic dirt.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 7:03 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:A grammar note to the D ilk:
No more buttered scones for me Mater, I'm off to play the grahnd piahno.

Blogger kh123 March 19, 2016 7:04 PM  

@110
Hoi polloi are not pleased. Hoi polloi will ha'shamayim shake and ha'aretz bake, though the justice will be done. Me Grimlock, by the way.

Yeah, a bit awkward.

Anonymous bgkb March 19, 2016 7:17 PM  

"Thus, for those who know their Greek, the expression the hoi polloi is a redundancy meaning "the the masses.""

To think we just had an argument about the hoi polloi being too stupid to know a word on a first grade reading list (Scold)

SciVo One of my liberal friends actually made his own AR-15 lower receiver

I am pretty sure they already made 80% build parties illegal in CA.

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2016 7:31 PM  

Good thing I don't live in CA.

Blogger Doc Rampage March 19, 2016 7:44 PM  

"He has already shredded the unspoken rules of political civility that make conversation possible."

I'm not a Trump supporter, but what an idiot. Is he completely oblivious to everything Leftist activists have been doing and saying saying for the last hundred years? Comparing every single Republican presidential candidate to Hitler? Calling Republicans racists? Riots provoked by Democrat-aligned labor unions, Democrat-aligned race activists, Democrat-aligned peaceniks, Democrat-aligned abortion supporters, Democrat-aligned gays, Democrat-aligned eco-warriors, and Democrat-aligned anti-globalism wierdos? Has he not noticed any of that?

What a tool.

Blogger Doc Rampage March 19, 2016 7:45 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 8:20 PM  

Doc Rampage wrote:What a tool.
All that stuff didn't affect him, you see. Trump is threatening his Authoriteh.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 19, 2016 8:35 PM  

Trump's supporters don't want David Brooks's respect. They want his scalp.

Amen!

Anonymous MendoScot March 19, 2016 8:47 PM  

@3 James Dixon

David Brooks will have a complete wing.

Nah, only a stall.

Blogger haus frau March 19, 2016 8:55 PM  

@53
"You know, I had an idea just now. So, idiot leftists are calling Trump "Drumpf," which is bizarre as that was an earlier version of his last name which was changed in the late 1600s. Yes, that's right, over 100 years before the Declaration of Independence."


I see this as SJW projection. Remember, SJW's rail against "dead-naming" and managed to make referring to a tranny by their God given gender pronoun a crime in New York. It takes a lot of energy to hold up a delusion and believe you are something you clearly are not. Every little cut in that delusion must be so terribly painful and exhausting. When they call Trump by his Germanic name counter-part they think they are poking a hole in what they see as a "rightful American" delusion. They don't believe there are any rightful Americans after all.
See, Trump's family were immigrants at some point. He's a big fat meany hypocrite (another projection, common leftist insult because they are almost all of them hypocrites).

Blogger Harsh March 19, 2016 8:57 PM  

I copied this from a Google tome: "Thus, for those who know their Greek, the expression the hoi polloi is a redundancy meaning "the the masses.""

Shut up

Blogger Were-Puppy March 19, 2016 9:10 PM  

@53 Zen Trader

So, should we start digging up archaic versions of their own last names from hundreds of years ago and forcing them to be associated with it? I think we'd be fascinated by what we found!
---

I bet over 90% are going to be anchor babies, or here for only a couple generations at most. That's why they don't get it.

Anonymous Gen. Kong March 19, 2016 9:13 PM  

Jourdan:
Brooks' son served in another country's military.

Brooks' employer was saved by a bail-out from another country's billionaire.

Brooks' writing posits that there is something wrong with Americans "out there" somewhere.

How does the elite not see this is a recipe for revolution?


Probably because there has been zero resistance to the elite program of genocide until now. They've been selling shit-sandwiches so long and so many of the 'hoi polloi' have been buying them faster than McDonalds and washing them down with Rev. Jones's pure Guyanese Grape-Drank that seeing resistance has to be a shock to their sensibilities. They'll be doubling-down shortly.

Blogger BunE22 March 19, 2016 9:20 PM  

Does David Brooks know what else the founders would have understood? Rebellion.

"God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson

Blogger Were-Puppy March 19, 2016 9:21 PM  

@65 Dexter
Glenn Cuck white knights....
---

Teddy made a big mistake with Beck. Beck is one of the biggest drama queen Cucks out there.

Here's the secret to Blubberin' Beck crying all the time :

https://youtu.be/VBmMsTkc9ms

Remember this any time he calls Trump a carnival barker

Blogger tz March 19, 2016 9:54 PM  

Trump has not shattered civility.
Conversation is not possible with someone who is incapable of listening. When there is an attempt to tell you your stuff isn't working, going from fallacies to epithets to screeching monkey mode, at some point we see all the talk of civility is itself a mask - when actually opposed, you aren't civil (see the Trump opponents being criminals). And when civility fails to even be acknowledged, it is disingenuous to complain.

Anonymous VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go ‘Hmm’” March 19, 2016 10:01 PM  

Me love everything about last four words of Chief Vox post. Chief Brooks not have many moons before he need move teepee to where Son-of-Chief-Brooks live now.

Blogger Gaiseric March 19, 2016 10:02 PM  

Hoi polloi isn't a Greek word. It's an English expression borrowed from the Greek. And according to the rules of English, it requires the definite article "the" when used in an English sentence.

Blogger Gaiseric March 19, 2016 10:03 PM  

Hoi polloi isn't a Greek word. It's an English expression borrowed from the Greek. And according to the rules of English, it requires the definite article "the" when used in an English sentence.

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2016 10:18 PM  

> I copied this from a Google tome: "Thus, for those who know their Greek, the expression the hoi polloi is a redundancy meaning "the the masses.""

Yeah, and if I writing in Greek, I might care. The term has been Anglicized, and thus the use of the is not inappropriate.

Anonymous MendoScot March 19, 2016 10:26 PM  

Dexter wrote: My mental image is more along the lines of the dirty war in Argentina - i.e., the ramp of a cargo aircraft opening and the bodies of Brooks and the rest of the NYT staff being thrown out over the ocean from high altitude.

The priest who took confession from the aircrew involved in those flights was prosecuted for crimes against humanity and sentenced to 10 years in jail in his 80s.

He never acknowledged the contents of the confessions or having given absolution for killing.

This was only a few years ago.

Blogger Jon M March 19, 2016 10:39 PM  

Point of order! Trump supporters are not dispossesed Americans who 'lost' jobs, wages, and dreams. They were stolen from us and given to non-Americans by people we paid to protect us.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 19, 2016 11:12 PM  

A new Trump ad - not sure if it's by Trump. Says Trump calls out Soros :P

https://youtu.be/oQPI85SB8Mc

Anonymous Discard March 20, 2016 4:40 AM  

135. Were-Puppy: The ad says www.trump.com in the corner. Does that make it Trumps, or can anybody fake that?

Blogger tz March 20, 2016 8:29 AM  

@65 - The worst part about white-knighting at this level is it shows Beck has contempt for Kelly, that she can't handle the criticism. Security? Trump's son got a threatening letter with white powder and Beck talks about what might happen to Kelly's family?

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