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Sunday, March 06, 2016

Perception vs perspective

The anti-Trumpkins are strutting around the Internet and bellowing about how Ted Cruz blew away Donald Trump in the two states he won and narrowly lost to Trump in the two states Trump won. And that's true, if you're dumb enough to look only at the reported percentages rather than the actual numbers involved.

In Kansas and Maine, Cruz beat Trump by 18,145 and 2,480 votes, respectively. In Kentucky and Louisiana, Trump beat Cruz by 10,866 and 9,781 votes. So, Cruz actually lost to Trump on the overall vote count by a grand total of 22 votes, which is a) a dead heat and b) as irrelevant as who won what state.

On the delegate side, Cruz took 64 delegates to Trump's 49. This, too, changed nothing, because Trump's ability to reach the required number of delegates before the convention is going to be solely determined by the 391 delegates awarded by the winner-takes-all states so long as he can take 30 percent or more of the distribute-delegate states. Since he took 49 of the 112 delegates allocated yesterday, or 44 percent, Trump remains ahead of the game; the only real significance of Saturday was the implosion of Rubio.

Now, don't get me wrong, it was a great night for Cruz, but it was a great night because it showed he is the only alternative to Trump, not because it demonstrated that his popularity had exploded or that he could actually beat Trump. The key result for him on Saturday was Rubio's demise, who really should drop out of the race on Monday, and presumably, endorse Cruz before getting humiliated in his home state, virtually ensuring Trump's nomination, and becoming entirely irrelevant.

Since Florida (99) and Ohio (66) account for nearly half of the remaining winner-takes-all delegates, Cruz has to prevent Trump from winning at least one of those states on March 15th. If Trump wins both, it will be extremely difficult to prevent him from collecting the additional 694 delegates he needs even if Cruz wins all of the proportional-distribution states.

The dilemma for Cruz is that if Rubio and Kasich drop out, it increases his slim chance of beating Trump in one of the two critical states. But if they stay in, they will continue to reduce the amount of proportional delegates that Trump collects. Cruz already knows he isn't likely to get enough delegates himself, so his winning strategy is to try to stop Trump, not to try to win himself.

Game theory says that Cruz needs to get Rubio and Kasich out of the race and get their endorsements right now so they can campaign for him and help him poach either Florida or Ohio. Whether they are in or out, Trump is going to surpass the 30 percent threshold in the proportional states. Since Cruz was at 21 percent in Ohio and 12 percent in Florida, the key to the nomination is Kasich, not Rubio. And presumably, Kasich knows this, which is why he has stayed in the race up until now.

If I'm Trump, I'm making a deal with Kasich to get his endorsement and strike for the kill. Anything short of VP should be on the table. If I'm Kasich, I'm getting out of the race before Wednesday and cashing in at my peak value. And if I'm Cruz, I'm arranging for a quiet telephone call with Trump to see if what he's willing to offer in exchange for an endorsement. There is a three-way Prisoner's Dilemma here, as the first candidate to endorse Trump is the one who is the most valuable to him. Alternatively, Cruz should tell his supporters to vote Rubio in Florida and Kasich in Ohio.

On a side note, it's interesting how this campaign has been largely consistent with the socio-sexual interpretation of the candidates from the start. It's down to Sigma against Alpha, and the outcome will largely depend upon whom can do a better job of assembling popular support versus working the system. The situation appears to strongly favor the Alpha, but it is always dangerous to expect a Sigma to do the obvious or to count him out.

I am nagged by one serious doubt concerning what I've been told about Ted Cruz, and it's not related to the obvious one concerning the extent to which he is the Goldman Sachs-preferred, CFR-approved candidate. If, as we are told, the establishment hates him so much more than Trump, why has Cruz been overperforming so dramatically in the states where the GOPe has more influence in the process.

I expect that we will soon learn whether Cruz fans have been telling the truth about whether the Republican establishment prefers him to Trump or not. If Fox and various GOP figures immediately begin fawning all over Cruz once Rubio withdraws, we will know they were, at the very least, incorrect.

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Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis March 06, 2016 7:12 AM  

GOPe = homely girl who thinks she can pick and choose her boyfriend

Blogger Rantor March 06, 2016 7:21 AM  

@1 but Trump doesn't want the homely girl, so if he gets the nomination, current GOPe has to go.

Anonymous Steve March 06, 2016 7:23 AM  

And let's dispel once and for all this notion that Marco Rubio doesn't know what he's doing.

Marco Rubio knows exactly what he's doing when he goes to the Piggly Wiggly and only buys a cucumber and a tub of Vaseline.

OpenID infanttheology March 06, 2016 7:34 AM  

Vox,

"If, as we are told, the establishment hates him so much more than Trump, why has Cruz been overperforming so dramatically in the states where the GOPe has more influence in the process."

I don't know if the majority of Caucus-goers are necessarily "establishment" types. Maybe I am wrong here, but I think Huckabee and Santorum performed well in a lot of those states in their 2008 and 2012 runs, respectively. They were not establishment choices. Also, I think the bigger turnouts in those caucuses might also be attributed to an enthusiasm for Cruz or a desire to stop Trump as well.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 06, 2016 7:42 AM  

The pinch faced church ladies and churchian husbands who run those small towns are very much an establishment.

Go ahead and show up at the polling place and trying to vote Trump without repercussions.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 06, 2016 7:43 AM  

State establishments can be a lot more "conservative", or at least responsive to their base, than the national GOPe. Mine certainly is, else I would't even vaguely consider myself a "Republican".

Just look at the issue of guns; while at the national level the GOPe has done some absolutely critical things like preventing the anti-gunners from suing the industry out of existence (which devastated the Brady Bunch after they filed a stupid lawsuit after the Colorado theater shooting), 98% of the action is at the state level, were, for instance, the WV legislature just overrode the governor's veto of Constitutional Carry. It'll take effect in 90 days, increasing the number of states with it (no licence required) to 11 if I remember correctly.

Blogger tz March 06, 2016 7:45 AM  

@4 - correct.
It is now the churchian cuckservative vs Mr. fixit.

Appearances are more important to many evangelicals, so the slick bible thumping lawyer (hey, if he leaves the senate he can be a televangelist) beats the vulgar blue-collar billionaire.

Cruz the cuck? Yes, for 30 years we are always promised good judges, ending abortion and gay militancy, fiscal discipline, etc. and it never actually happens. Even Mitt was promising that.

The rest of VDs post summarizes the status. Cruz is still limping but can conceivably make the finish line with help from Yertle the turtle McConnell & co. But bet on the hair.

Blogger tz March 06, 2016 7:48 AM  

I disavow any support for the CCC:
Cuckservative Churchian Cruz.

Anonymous Steve March 06, 2016 7:49 AM  

tz - the Pharisees never went away, they just call themselves Christians now.

Anonymous Lestat March 06, 2016 7:49 AM  

Btw. off-topic news, it seems Brendan Eich was not fired because of SJW influence in Mozilla, but Mozilla simple solds their users off for big money and Brendan Eich just wanted to turn the train into a different direction.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11230084

http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8836539&cid=51642315

That is in my opinion even more bad, money controlled garbage companies who sell their users off for big money!

Please spread the news, Mozilla must pay for all of this.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 06, 2016 7:50 AM  

Rantor wrote:@1 but Trump doesn't want the homely girl, so if he gets the nomination, current GOPe has to go.

Is that the equivalent to the movie scene where the buy takes off the girl's glasses and undoes her hair, then she goes and buys herself some dresses and puts on makeup? And suddenly, for one brief shining moment, Julia Roberts is almost attractive!

Anonymous Millenium March 06, 2016 7:53 AM  

Of course the establishment types love Cruz. He is a good little cuck who hides underneath a veil of rebelliousness. When called to actually confront the establishment he missed the vote and when his vote does not matter he is happy to vote against the establishment after doing his best to get it to the point where his vote is not required. Of course an anchor baby is going to be pro-immigration. His faux rebelliousness can be seen in his trying to coopt Trump's most popular positions. He would never get a wall built so he can posture about it but he might just get the Hb-1 crack down so he takes the useless approach of a 180 day moratorium.

Cruz is the candidate for cucks who want to appear edgy but won't get behind the only possible outsider because 'muh feels'.

Blogger tz March 06, 2016 7:57 AM  

Lord, make my enemies ridiculous:
The GOPe's idea of taking the gloves off is to put Mittens on.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 06, 2016 8:00 AM  

Trump has challenged the AUTHORITY and that authority rides with the Left at this moment.

Cruz has not risen to that challenge yet, he is still the school boy sitting on the edge of the chair in the principal's office trying to talk himself out of trouble.

I don't want school boy Cruz coming back to his little gang and telling us of how he snookered the authority I want an Alpha coming back with the former authority's head.

Chateau is on this track this morning and he is absolutely on target

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 06, 2016 8:07 AM  

The most recent polls have been significantly and consistently overestimating Trump's support. With his strong showing through the NE and South, I thought (hoped) we'd see a consistently 40%+ coalition of nativist Southern whites and economic nationalist whites in the NE and rust belt (with less but still significant support from foreigners and high plains cucks - no idea on the Western states). That could still end up being the case with Cruz's wins later looking like the product of unrepresentative caucuses and hometown advantage. Still, it is a worrying trend going into FL, which is must win for Trump. It may be that nationalism isn't going to be the defining issue after all.

Blogger Salt March 06, 2016 8:11 AM  

Bobby Farr wrote:It may be that nationalism isn't going to be the defining issue after all.

That may be, and in which case, eventually, the least desirable will eventually raise its Ultra head.

Blogger Fred March 06, 2016 8:13 AM  

..and here I thought Repubs in KS/ME were just plain stoopid. Cruz has zero chance in the general. All Cruz did was move Repubs closer to a contested convention which insures a third party run which guarantees a Clinton victory.

Blogger tz March 06, 2016 8:14 AM  

I think Kasich and Rubio will stay in and lose their home states to Trump. They assume it will be like Cruz in Texas. And then call it a victory and quit then, but by then Trump should be all but assured 1237 delegates and Cruz can at best cause what he recognizes as a civil war of a brokered convention. His die-hards will calculate if he wins 100% of the remaining delegates...

The more interesting edge case is just missing 1237 and having the unbound delegates decide between Trump and brokered on the first ballot.

Blogger Shimshon March 06, 2016 8:17 AM  

Whatever the outcome, this is indeed the most entertaining campaign I have ever seen. Would that the presumptive nominee in previous rounds had been the recipient of as much scorn.

Whatever Trump does vis a vis Israel (assuming he does win), I can imagine the first thing he would do is broadcast quite the highly polished and produced scene where Trump tells Bibi live on the air that he accepts his 1997 offer (given before Congress) of ending the practice of receiving billions in annual aid, effective immediately. In other words, "You're FIRED!" No one would be able to stop him either. That would be entertaining and probably of far greater import far sooner than any effort of his to take on the Israeli-Arab conflict. It would cause a political earthquake here.

Blogger Beefy Levinson March 06, 2016 8:17 AM  

Trump does best in primaries, and Cruz does well in caucuses. The problem for Cruz is that there are 37 primaries and 13 caucuses. We're done with ten of the latter I believe, and the ones that are left don't have many delegates to award.

Blogger Dr. Φ March 06, 2016 8:25 AM  

The establishment hatred for Cruz supposedly manifested itself in two ways:

1. Long before Trump broke out with the immigration issue, the GOPe had organized the primaries with the specific goal of putting Cruz at a disadvantage. (That schedule has also supposedly worked in favor of Trump, much to their consternation.)

2. After Trump broke out with the immigration issue, but before he began sweeping up delegates, the GOPe reacted to polls showing that Trump supporters were more likely to settle for Cruz than Cruz supporters were to settle for Trump. The strategy then became to drive Cruz from the race the first as a path to beating Trump.

I'm not trying to assert either of these premises, only that that was the establishment thinking.

One more thing: it is manifest that the GOPe's (e.g., Mitt's) attacks on Trump as "racist" are counterproductive to their stated ends. I would encourage the commenters here to not make the same mistake with respect to Cruz's supporters. Trump currently has only 1/3 of the evangelical vote. I believe another 1/3 to be persuadable, but they won't be persuaded by insults like "churchian". They will be persuaded when Trump stops reminding them of his vulgarity and starts reminding them that the consequences of not stopping the immigration means that They. Lose. Everything. Forever.

Blogger dienw March 06, 2016 8:26 AM  

For those who think Cruz is rightfully winning: the evidence is that the primaries are being stolen. The elite insiders are doing all they can to maintain control.

Blogger Melampus the Seer March 06, 2016 8:26 AM  

Best analysis I've read.

Blogger YIH March 06, 2016 8:30 AM  

I still suspect the Party is still angling for the 'brokered' convention. Which means despite the fact that he probably won't win another state ''Little Marco'' (BTW, my money's on Lambda) is going to stay in the race to the bitter end. What Kasich does is anyone's guess, but I suspect the GOPe will continue to fund Little Marco's travel and appearance costs for the duration.
What they're hoping for is both Cruz and Lubio to go to the convention, the deal is cut that Lubio's (and other non-Trump non-Cruz) delegates get pledged to Cruz hoping that will be enough to edge out (or close to it) Trump.
Considering (((some))) are claiming to vote for the Lizard Queen over Trump, games like that would not surprise me.

Blogger VD March 06, 2016 8:31 AM  

Full credit to Frank B. Luke, who did the original math. I'm merely riffing off his pre-Super Saturday analysis.

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 06, 2016 8:32 AM  

@22 That all makes sense. I don't see how massive increases in primary voters can be attributed to anything other than Trump unless there is some untold story of a segment of voters energized by Cruz (when he isn't even beating Trump with evangelicals). Still, Trump needs the organization in place to police these things.

Anonymous Joe Blowe March 06, 2016 8:33 AM  

I expect that we will soon learn whether Cruz fans have been telling the truth about whether the Republican establishment prefers him to Trump or not.

In the past week eight (!) high level members of the Jeb Bush campaign that specialize in extracting money from the DC/Wall St. Donor class have joined Cruz's team. Cruz proudly announced this on his own official website. Also in the past week Mitt Romney, John McCain, and Limp-wristed Lindsay Graham all came out is support of Cruz over the real threat to their power, Donald Trump

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 06, 2016 8:36 AM  

Shimson you are quite wrong, if it were I the Great Right Hope elected POTUS I would embrace Israel like you never imagined, my little brothers, I love them.

I want a classic Galil, IWI needs to get to work on that.

Blogger Nate March 06, 2016 8:36 AM  

I don't disagree with this. In fact I said last night the take away from all of saturday is its a 2 man race. Like it or not. The way I see it... if the GOPe is as hell bent to stop Trump as folks think.. they will tell GovK and the Poolboy to drop out. They have tremendous enfluence over those two candidates... and if those two sold out and endorsed Cruz... Cruz could still beat Trump.

Blogger Nate March 06, 2016 8:38 AM  

also.. on the GOPe preferences... its not just Cruz fans saying the GOPe hates him more than Trump. Its the GOPe. We've sited and sourced those statements several times.

Now granted... times and positions change. This contentious process could have changed some minds in that regard... and it probably has. But I still believe the main core of the GOPe... McCain... Payl Ryan... Mitch McConnell... they hate Cruz.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 06, 2016 8:43 AM  

@30 Nate:

Cruz called Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor.

Yeah, I buy that he's a type of an establishment candidate, but not exactly the normal go along to get along national level Republican type.

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 8:46 AM  

The GOPe is actually pretty weak in Virginia, but Rubio beat Cruz handily here. All of the Cruz supporters in Virginia I know are the sort of people who enthusiastically supported the primarying of Cantor and other f#$% the establishment positions.

In fact, what makes no sense about how well Trump did in Virginia is that if they were running for governor, Cruz would have monkey stomped Trump in popularity because his views on issues like government power, gun control and stuff like that are perfectly in line with mainstream Virginia voters.

Blogger tz March 06, 2016 8:53 AM  

When I'm trying to persuade the persuadable, I will use whatever will persuade them best.

More moderate, pragmatic evangelicals vote Trump, those looking for Armageddon vote Cruz.

Some are cucks or churchians, some aren't. Some want to sacrifice the USA for the secular, socialist state of Israel because of some "whoever blesses Abraham..." preaching.

Cruz has promised day 1 to move the embassy to Jerusalem. Does he want to create international resentment and severe problems? Trumps muslim ban isn't as bad. The only thing slightly more provocative would be bombing Mecca and Medina.

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 8:55 AM  

The establishment vs anti-establishment thing is a bad proxy for ruling class vs non-ruling class. Cruz is now on the outlier of the ruling class by virtue of raising his status, but he was born and raised middle class. His attitude toward government is still fundamentally middle class from everything we've seen.

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 8:59 AM  

More moderate, pragmatic evangelicals vote Trump, those looking for Armageddon vote Cruz.

And those same pragmatic evangelicals will be shocked that a man who, until a year or two ago, sounded like the very liberals who hate them turns out to do most of the things those liberals want to do. Particularly to them.

Trump is a perfectly valid alternative to Hillary Clinton. He is not an alternative to Cruz. Trump "evolves" more in the course of a week sometimes than Obama evolved in his first term.

Make America Great is Hope and Change for the right and blue dog democrats.

Anonymous Anonymous March 06, 2016 8:59 AM  

Whether the GOPe loves or hates Cruz is a false choice. They can tolerate Cruz (but not Trump) even though they don't like Cruz.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral March 06, 2016 9:00 AM  

Cruz has promised day 1 to move the embassy to Jerusalem.

That has to be utter BS.

Anonymous Ad Victoriam March 06, 2016 9:00 AM  

I've only recently (~6 months) started to pay closer attention to internal Republican politics, but Cruz strikes me (my interpretation of observed behavior) as an establishment type through and through. However, he differs from the pack of hyenas in two ways. First, he is not stupid and realizes that the pattern of governance we are in now is fundamentally unstable. (Seriously, what kind of morons think we can double the national debt every 8 years forever. Heads in the sand as long as bribe money is in hand ...) Two, he is at the far end of the ambition distribution. He wants a well-run establishment, run by himself.

So I see him as more dangerous than Clinton. She is an ignorant, arrogant, and incompetent fool who will hasten implosion and renewal. Cruz will do what he can to put it off, yet not protect and conserve the American people. He talks the talk NOW, but he didn't before: he voted for TPA (fast track) and has taken Goldman Sachs's money. 'nough said.

Blogger tz March 06, 2016 9:05 AM  

@31 - It is irrelevant if Cruz is hated, the question is if he would be effective.
Assume he wants to, can a Sigma overcome a large, dominant, entrenched political machine? Especially one who wants to play by the rules of the constitution vs cheaters. Olympics vs WWE.

Cruz has done one filibuster. He could put sand in the gears now but doesn't. He can yap loudly, but calling McConnell a liar doesn't undo anything, and Cruz isn't running against the GOPe specifically, merely isolated policies Trump has dragged into the light.

Anonymous Leonidas March 06, 2016 9:18 AM  

On the whole Cruz is establishment or not establishment question...

My gut tells me that Cruz is the guy that nobody in the establishment actually likes and everybody really wants someone else on their team to be the guy... but once they've exhausted all their other options, he's still their guy and not actually an outsider.

I've seen this dynamic play out in groups before. Sports is a great example. You don't have to actually like a teammate in order to accept that, like it or not, he's playing for your team. But if you really can't stand him, you're going to try pretty damn hard to pick someone else for the starter role.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 9:19 AM  

The people who still like Cruz need to explain Cruz's Goldman wife and why Jeb's people are jumping on board with him.

Also, why his campaign propaganda is ran by a ex-spook running a shady company called Applied Memetics LLC.

It certainly looks to me like Cruz is extremely intelligent controlled opposition. Or did you guys forget all about the IC's involvement in politics? Already forgotten JFK?

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 9:20 AM  

Oh, and let's not forget that JFK was offed by a combination of big oilmen and spooks angry over the Bay of Pigs, and the like.

Guess who one of Cruz's biggest donor groups is?

Big Oil. Golly gee whillikers.

Anonymous Steve March 06, 2016 9:26 AM  

Donald Trump seems to be the only America Firster in this race. That's why everybody is losing their minds at the thought of him winning. I doubt the establishment has been this scared since shortly before they killed Huey Long.

Ted Cruz seems to be more of an Israel Firster, though I suspect it's more due to his carefully cultivated President Jesus persona to hoover up the Ned Flanders demographic than being an outright neocon puppet like the Marco Rubio. Same results though.

Wasn't Cruz down at the border not long ago, handing out goodie bags to invaders with Glenn Beck?

Tells you all you need to know.

Anonymous karsten March 06, 2016 9:27 AM  

Jonah Goldberg is already retweeting people saying that they'll vote Cruz to stop Trump.

Bill Kristol is talking about tickets with Cruz at the top.

The entire Jewish Republican establishment and punditry are spewing never-Trump propaganda.

Anyone who claims that the GOPe is against Cruz is a liar, perpetrating a lie so transparent that it is laughable.

Cruz = continuation of all current GOPe policies:
1. More never-ending wars on behalf of Israel
2. More immigration (he'll pivot back to his old pro-immigration positions after the campaign is over)
3. More free trade shipping jobs overseas.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean March 06, 2016 9:29 AM  

There really should be only one question for the GOP. Who has the best chance of beating Hillary?

The answer is obviously Trump and it isn't even close.

Blogger Nate March 06, 2016 9:34 AM  

"There really should be only one question for the GOP. Who has the best chance of beating Hillary? "

see i don't think that is a useful question at all. Cruz and Trump both will completely wreck Hillary.

Blogger Ceasar March 06, 2016 9:34 AM  

Cruz cannot beat Trump in terms of getting the needed delegates, and he knows this. So his words against a contested convention are meaningless. He knows most sane people hate the idea of a contested convention. Let Rubio drop out like Trump noted and watch Trump go after Cruz again. Trump has laid off Cruz for the last couple of weeks, expect to see that change dramatically. Cruz has not had to deal with attacks like Trump has and as we all know, everyone has skeletons in their closet.

Cruz will be pounded as a hypocrite, liar and no experience politician. All of which will be correct. He is what he is. If I told you I know a politician who is a freshman senator, has done nothing outside of gov, loves to give long winded ideological speeches to put you to sleep, thinks he's the smartest man in the room, and is a constitutional lawyer. You would say that is Obama. You would be correct but it also describes Cruz.

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Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean March 06, 2016 9:36 AM  

Nate, you really think Cruz can crush Hillary?

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 9:37 AM  

There really should be only one question for the GOP. Who has the best chance of beating Hillary?

The answer is obviously Trump and it isn't even close.


Not according to the most recent general election polls at RealClearPolitics.

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Rasmussen Reports Clinton 41, Trump 36 Clinton +5

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CNN/ORC Clinton 52, Trump 44 Clinton +8

General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton CNN/ORC Cruz 49, Clinton 48 Cruz +1


General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 47, Trump 42 Clinton +5

General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton FOX News Cruz 46, Clinton 45 Cruz +1

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 44, Trump 43 Clinton +1

General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Cruz 46, Clinton 43 Cruz +3

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 45 Trump +2

General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Cruz 45, Clinton 44 Cruz +1

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 9:38 AM  

#43...

As opposed to Trump who:

1. Thinks Kelo v. New London is an outstanding court decision.
2. Supported the Gang of 8 legislation before he opposed it.
3. Supported socialized medicine until he opposed it.
4. Was a supporter of partial birth abortion until he realized it would be a liability with even blue dog democrats.

FFS. Cruz isn't perfect, but Cruz is closer to a fusion of Reagan and Ron Paul than he is to Trump on politics and reliability.

Blogger Escoffier March 06, 2016 9:40 AM  

Mike wrote:
Make America Great is Hope and Change for the right and blue dog democrats.


Sad to say but a Blue Dog Democrat would be infinitely superior to the GOPe.

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 9:40 AM  

has done nothing outside of gov

You mean like Eisenhower, career military officer and the only man who told the Chamber of Commerce to go fuck itself and deported millions of illegals?

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 9:43 AM  

Sad to say but a Blue Dog Democrat would be infinitely superior to the GOPe.

I absolutely agree. If Jim Webb were running against Trump, I'd support Webb without much hesitation because despite his defects, Webb is a blue dog. Trump is about as much a blue dog as Bloomberg. In fact, Bloomberg at least is honest and unapologetic about where he stands. Trump has much chance of increasing the H2 visa program by 800% as deporting all of the illegals for all he keeps bouncing around on policy.

Blogger James Dixon March 06, 2016 9:44 AM  

? But I still believe the main core of the GOPe... McCain... Payl Ryan... Mitch McConnell... they hate Cruz.

Oh, no doubt. The question is who do they hate more, Cruz or Trump. That's still not certain. If they all get behind Cruz to stop Trump, we'll know it's Trump. If they back Trump over Cruz, it's Cruz. I'm assuming they either hate both equally but in different ways or that the different factions within the GOPe differ in who they hate most. If that's the case they'll keep Rubio and Kasich in the race to the bitter end and try to get a brokered convention where they can draft Jeb (the great white dope).

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 9:44 AM  

Hey Josh, the polls in June clearly showed Trump in single digits, too.

The General hasn't even started yet. No one is as good as the Don in persuading. Time works to his favor.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 06, 2016 9:45 AM  

Trump is right that Cruz can't win New York or Pennsylvania. Trump has wide support with Independents.

Perception vs perspective. The hidden Lion, though, is Assassination. Huey Long was a populist--assassinated. George Wallace, was heavily wounded in an assassination attempt. Barry Goldwater and Pat Buchanan were character assassinated by the Rockefeller Republicans.

The looming threat of assassination is very real in this campaign. The character assassination has already begun.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 9:45 AM  

Also Josh, if Cruz were to actually get the nomination, the entire MSM establishment will turn their guns on him. Hasn't happened yet, they're too busy trying to shoot Trump.

You need to get out of 2D land and start thinking 3D.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 9:46 AM  

Hey Josh, the polls in June clearly showed Trump in single digits, too.

I am providing data points. You are providing...what?

Blogger Cicatrizatic March 06, 2016 9:47 AM  

Predictably, the media is overreacting to yesterday's results. The fact that Cruz won a few small caucuses doesn't mean Trump is necessarily in decline - although I do think the all out negative assault on him continues to hurt him with last minute deciders. Sure, Cruz will gain some momentum. But the next two big contests are Mississippi and Michigan, which are both open primaries. Notwithstanding the ARG, which 538 has debunked, I think he'll win both which somewhere between 35-45% of the vote.

The idea that, at a brokered convention, the party hands the nomination to Rubio or Romney will, over time, come to be realized as the absurdity that it is (which doesn't mean it can't happen). By June, something like 15 million people will have voted for Trump and Cruz combined. Surely, most of those voters will stay home in November (or else write their candidates name in) if Rubio or Romney are made the nominee. To nominate Rubio or Romney at that point will be total suicide, albeit, the GOPe may be in favor of that over Trump.

These factors also contribute to the fact that the General Election head to head polls are meaningless at this point. Head to head polls at this point (8 months out) are already notoriously and historically inaccurate - but add to that the fact that voters have no idea what to expect. I still assume there is some reticence for people to answer Trump on these polls because they have no idea if he will be the nominee. They still need some validation that this could happen. The head to head polls will only start to become meaningful in August after voters know for sure who the respective nominees are.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 9:47 AM  

Also Josh, if Cruz were to actually get the nomination, the entire MSM establishment will turn their guns on him. Hasn't happened yet, they're too busy trying to shoot Trump.

Wouldn't that just help Cruz or Trump? Since the people who hate Washington also hate the media?

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Blogger Ceasar March 06, 2016 9:49 AM  

#52

Never, never compare the military to politicians. The difference level of responsibility and accountability for decisions and actions are not even close. Had Cruz served in the military, he would have run for governor not senator.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean March 06, 2016 9:52 AM  

Josh,

I'm not sure those polls capture the turnout factor. The enthusiasm of Trump's supporters can't be denied. Check out the packed stadiums.

Trump also has the ability appeal to a broader audience than Cruz, and to steal votes from the left, like Sanders supporters. No, they aren't conservative voters, which is probably why you don't like him. Fair enough. But it doesn't negate the fact that Trump has a better shot in the general. Not just my opinion. Even Rush Limbaugh said as much on Fox News this morning.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 9:52 AM  

It won't help Cruz, because he can't persuade and inspire like Donald. The MSM will nuke Rato from orbit.

Donald's strength is nationalism and populism.

Cruz does not have that advantage AT ALL. He's a speak-in-tongues preacher lawyer charlatan that plays to the conservative base.

The General election isn't going to be a caucus that Cruz can rig through packing lines 2 hours long with party functionaries.

Anonymous Steve March 06, 2016 9:57 AM  

The idea that, at a brokered convention, the party hands the nomination to Rubio or Romney will, over time, come to be realized as the absurdity that it is

You guys know better than I, but I just can't imagine any scenario where the GOP rigs the convention, as if the US was some two-bit banana republic, tells its voters to fuck off, and survives as a viable party.

The fact they're even still considering this as a viable option betrays how dangerously deluded they are. This is their "let them eat cake" moment.

What do they imagine will happen next? The plebs just slink back to their hovels because their betters have decided for them? There are millions of pissed off Americans who are armed to the teeth and I don't think they're ready to eat another shit sandwich and pretend to like it.

It'd be cuckicide.

Anonymous johnc March 06, 2016 9:57 AM  

Pay attention to what they say and do, also. At his post-Super Tuesday press conference Trump was clear that if he sews up the nomination he will have to warm up to the GOPe. This is hardly controversial: he knows that he will need a unified party going in to November in order to win. He knows he can't be the lone ranger. In the meantime, giving off that anti-establishment vibe is great for ginning up the support he needed to set himself apart. But he has openly declared that he will fit in well, and get along with everybody, and make deals and compromises, etc. I'm not saying any of that is bad, but just don't expect him to remain an "outsider".

I don't want school boy Cruz coming back to his little gang and telling us of how he snookered the authority I want an Alpha coming back with the former authority's head.

To use the analogy from the girlfriend's perspective, don't be surprised if the Alpha is sleeping around with all the other girls behind your back.

Trump has many, many strengths. Some useful, some who cares. But fidelity is not one of them.

Blogger Escoffier March 06, 2016 9:58 AM  

Mike wrote:Sad to say but a Blue Dog Democrat would be infinitely superior to the GOPe.

I absolutely agree. If Jim Webb were running against Trump, I'd support Webb without much hesitation because despite his defects, Webb is a blue dog. Trump is about as much a blue dog as Bloomberg. In fact, Bloomberg at least is honest and unapologetic about where he stands. Trump has much chance of increasing the H2 visa program by 800% as deporting all of the illegals for all he keeps bouncing around on policy.


I don't dispute any of this and yet he put Jeff Sessions immigration plan on his website. Do I think he believes that the Sessions plan is the way, don't know. Do I think he'd actually follow through if elected, who knows? But he sure as hell allowed normies who'd probably never seen an actual immigration restriction plan with teeth before. No matter his personal beliefs, no matter what he will or won't do he has already done a lot of good in the realms of memetics and perception.

And who knows, there are those who think that Ann Coulter was able to move the massive ego that is Trump. Stranger things have happened.

To reiterate, even if every single thing you say is true he is still moving the Overton window in ways it hasn't been moved in decades.

Blogger Harsh March 06, 2016 9:59 AM  

see i don't think that is a useful question at all. Cruz and Trump both will completely wreck Hillary.

Cruz might possibly squeak past Hillary in the general election but it would be close, but it's irrelevant because barring any funny business, Trump will lock up the nomination.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 10:00 AM  

Trump has proven that he can survive the Mississippi 14 treatment from the MSM.

You seriously need to ask yourself if Cruz could. Do you seriously think he could win against the media? I don't see it at all. He'd be absolutely crushed. He's exactly the caricature of the right the left wants to run against.

Then you need to ask yourself how mush you can trust a guy who speaks like an evangelical while hiring the dirtiest political players he can find, then defending them. Cruz is a high level con artist.

I don't see Trump sending out any voter violation cards, or making despicable robocalls, or stealing Good Guy Carson's votes, do you?

Blogger Salt March 06, 2016 10:00 AM  

W.LindsayWheeler wrote:The looming threat of assassination is very real in this campaign. The character assassination has already begun.

I find a bit of agreement here. TPTB cannot allow one such as Trump to begin the derailmant of the coup that was Nov.22, 1963.

Blogger Nick S March 06, 2016 10:00 AM  

Trump and his hornswoggled hoard looks unstoppable to me and it's fairly obvious he is courting "Lyen Ted" for VP.

I could live with that ticket. I think they would trounce Hillary. Cruz could tutor Trump and serve as a damper on Trump's reactive imprudence. All-in-all a win/win.

Blogger Escoffier March 06, 2016 10:05 AM  

Steve wrote:
You guys know better than I, but I just can't imagine any scenario where the GOP rigs the convention, as if the US was some two-bit banana republic, tells its voters to fuck off, and survives as a viable party.


There's a lot of willful delusion and cognitive dissonance in following a political party. I can't find the link at the moment but I recall a deluded female Mccain supporter outside one of his rallies assuring all who would listen that of course he was going to secure the border. Mccain has spent a career telling Republicans to F off, never seem to hurt him much.

Blogger Harsh March 06, 2016 10:07 AM  

You seriously need to ask yourself if Cruz could. Do you seriously think he could win against the media? I don't see it at all. He'd be absolutely crushed. He's exactly the caricature of the right the left wants to run against.

I don't get the Cruz love. No personality, no track record, no viable plan. His only salable quality is he's not Trump.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 06, 2016 10:08 AM  

@42
Back in Sept '14, Cruz threw Christians under the bus to appease Israel. He is an Israel Firster through and through. A vote for him is a vote for your kids and grandkids to die fighting for Israel.

Anonymous The other robot March 06, 2016 10:11 AM  

Haven't we seen this trajectory before? Each of the challengers looks strong for a while and then they simply collapse: Carson, other non-entities, Rubio, and soon, Cruz.

I hear that one of the non-entities had $100M behind him.

Blogger James Dixon March 06, 2016 10:11 AM  

> I could live with that ticket.

I think most of us could. The question is whether either Trump or Cruz could.

Anonymous The other robot March 06, 2016 10:17 AM  

Meanwhile, India is pretty blatant about its invasion of the US!

Anonymous Mike March 06, 2016 10:18 AM  

I don't get the Cruz love. No personality, no track record, no viable plan. His only salable quality is he's not Trump.

And y'all call us liars. Cruz very much has a track record. Your knowledge of it doesn't even rise to the level of Wikipedia or do none of his pro-limited government accomplishments at the FTC and as Texas Solicitor General count?

Trump, on the other hand, has a track record on, say, illegal immigration. Ask the Polish illegal immigrants he hired and paid so little they apparently had to sleep at the work site.

Blogger Harsh March 06, 2016 10:22 AM  

Trump, on the other hand, has a track record on, say, illegal immigration. Ask the Polish illegal immigrants he hired and paid so little they apparently had to sleep at the work site.

And of course the conversation always turns back to Trump with you Cruzlets. You can't even talk about your man for five minutes without bringing up Trump.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 06, 2016 10:23 AM  

Cruz is ineligible to be VP because he is not a Natural Born citizen.

Kasich is a RINO republican--that won't do anything on immigration, wall or otherwise.

Just now on CNN with Fareed Zakaria was Krugman and Bret Stephens, Wall Street editor. Krugman brought up Racism. That the war in the Republican party or what Trump brings to the table is Race. Bret Stephens is almost apoplectic in his hatred of Trump. He also brings up the "bigotry" charge that Nelson Rockefeller brought up against Barry Goldwater in 1964.

The media is constantly bringing up the KKK and Mitt Romney brought up, just yesterday, the racism card.

Here is a YouTube video of the Democrat charge of KKK against Barry Goldwater:

KKK Ad (LBJ 1964 Presidential campaign commercial) VTR 4568-13

Most Republicans are afraid of the "racism card". I see it here in Southwest Michigan. They run away. Most Tea Party types are into Americanism which is Masonry.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 10:23 AM  

Mike, If you bothered to research you'd see that in the resort hotel industry, they have short, very active seasons. Temporary workers are a necessity.

Additionally, the Polish people are one of the countries that are fighting the immivasion hardest in Europe. Do you have a problem with Poles, or are you just trying to shit on the Don?

Personally, I think the fact he decided to take poles speaks well on him.

Cruz has no record. Just like other legislators, he's much ado about nothing. The establishment is clearly for him. Kansas is as much a party machine as you'll ever find. The machine shilled hard for Cruz yesterday, in case you didn't notice.

MPAI. Even here.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:25 AM  

Kansas is as much a party machine as you'll ever find. The machine shilled hard for Cruz yesterday, in case you didn't notice.
The Kansas party machine endorsed Rubio, in case you didn't notice.

Anonymous The other robot March 06, 2016 10:26 AM  

Batshit crazy part of the media finally reveals that Trump had a cozy relationship with the media at one time.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:28 AM  

Mike, If you bothered to research you'd see that in the resort hotel industry, they have short, very active seasons. Temporary workers are a necessity.

Til, if you bothered to research you would have seen that a placement company sent Trump hundreds of American applicants and Trump only hired two dozen.

Blogger Otto Lamp March 06, 2016 10:28 AM  

If Cruz wins the general election, I predict that 4 years from now neither immigration or trade will have improved one iota. If anything, they will be worse.

Illegal immigration will likely be no different than today. No official amnesty, but they will still be flooding over the boarder; businesses will face no risk for hiring them; and sanctuary cities will be as the are today.

H-1B visas will increase.

Some version of TPP will pass. Free trade (as in shipping American jobs overseas) will continue.

Why? Because these were Cruz's positions prior to Trump entering the race and blowing them up. Cruz's big pre-Trump selling point was he was the guy that stood up to the GOP on ObamaCare. A fine stance (although I'm not sure it wasn't just failure-theater).

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 10:28 AM  

Attacking Donald for Polish workers is straight out of the left's playbook. We should WANT Polish immigrants instead of what we get. The Polish government right now is far less of a cuckshed than ours. They're FIGHTING.

Attacking Trump for this is absolutely dispicable.

Anonymous paradox March 06, 2016 10:30 AM  

zen0
Cruz has promised day 1 to move the embassy to Jerusalem.

That has to be utter BS.


Looks like a realistic assumption and not BS.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:31 AM  

Attacking Donald for Polish workers is straight out of the left's playbook. We should WANT Polish immigrants instead of what we get. The Polish government right now is far less of a cuckshed than ours. They're FIGHTING.

I thought the whole appeal of Trump was putting American workers first...

America for the Americans, Poland for the Poles.

Anonymous Man of the Atom March 06, 2016 10:31 AM  

Steve wrote:The idea that, at a brokered convention, the party hands the nomination to Rubio or Romney will, over time, come to be realized as the absurdity that it is

You guys know better than I, but I just can't imagine any scenario where the GOP rigs the convention, as if the US was some two-bit banana republic, tells its voters to fuck off, and survives as a viable party.

The fact they're even still considering this as a viable option betrays how dangerously deluded they are. This is their "let them eat cake" moment.

What do they imagine will happen next? The plebs just slink back to their hovels because their betters have decided for them? There are millions of pissed off Americans who are armed to the teeth and I don't think they're ready to eat another shit sandwich and pretend to like it.

It'd be cuckicide.


I think many of the long term senators, representatives, staffers, lobbyists, and political movers-and-shakers think this is *exactly* what will happen: "they'll shut up and get in line...like they *always* do." Business as usual. Nothing to see here; move along. They're like Wile E. Coyote and don't see how close the lit fuse is the TNT barrel, until ... whooops!

Anyone but Cruz or Trump coming out on top of the GOP nomination process is likely to enrage the GOP base, such that many opt out of the upcoming election, and the Party itself. I doubt many of the GOPe hardliners are bright enough to see that far ahead of their noses.

What will more interesting to see is if this support for Trump and Cruz (perceived anti-establishment/political machine candidates) over other GOP candidates such as Bush, Rubio, and Kasich (demonstrated machine politicos) translates to change at the national, state, and local levels. Will more Nationalist and Ultranationalist candidates appear from 2018 through 3032 and start to win at various levels, or be stymied by even more machine politics, adding to the tightness of the spring?

The perception of fraud by the GOPe could wash away a dozen GOP Senate seats and diminish the House's Republican majority in this election year, on top of a presidential disaster. State Houses and local elections will tell part of this story. I hope Decision Desk and other political sites keep close tabs on State and Local races -- this is a hard problem to collect and analyse all that data. I think this will be a better barometer of how fast the transition from Nationalist to Ultranationalist proceeds.

While we're not the Weimar Republic, it sure feels we've moved that way now. I don't think that the GOPe or TPTB understand just how orthogonal this might get in a every short time.

Blogger James Dixon March 06, 2016 10:33 AM  

> Temporary workers are a necessity.

And he can't find them in the US? Right, I mean there can't possibly be any unemployed people he could bus in from nearby inner cities or the coal fields of Appalachia, could there?

Look, I think Trump is the best option out there, but quit pretending he's perfect.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 10:34 AM  

I don't care about your hit pieces, Josh. I have no problem with Poles. They are fighting harder than we are.

If anything, you're just showing how much of a dishonest cuck you can be, shilling with your slime attacks.

Isn't it interesting how quickly the Cruzmissiles have started acting like the left?

TRUMP ISN'T PERFECT! LOOK, HE HIRED SOME BASED POLES!

How many American jobs has Rato created, Josh?

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:36 AM  

How many American jobs has Rato created, Josh?

I don't know what that is.

How many American jobs has Trump created?

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 10:38 AM  

"Is that the equivalent to the movie scene where the buy takes off the girl's glasses and undoes her hair, then she goes and buys herself some dresses and puts on makeup? And suddenly, for one brief shining moment, Julia Roberts is almost attractive"

Until... You meet Julia's look-a-like brother Eric. Then every time you start to think about banging Julia. The image of Eric destroys that thought.

Blogger Nate March 06, 2016 10:40 AM  

"If Cruz wins the general election, I predict that 4 years from now neither immigration or trade will have improved one iota. If anything, they will be worse."

and if Trump wins the election in 4 years neither trade nor immigration will have improved 1 iota.

But hey... we will have a shiney new super badass Patriot Act anally probing us.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:41 AM  

But hey... we will have a shiney new super badass Patriot Act anally probing us.

Also Bill Gates will shut down the internet

Blogger Student in Blue March 06, 2016 10:41 AM  

Can't wait for November...

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:41 AM  

If anything, you're just showing how much of a dishonest cuck you can be, shilling with your slime attacks.

Doesn't supporting Poles over Americans make you a cuck?

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 10:43 AM  

"How many American jobs has Trump created?"

Guffaw. This doesn't even deserve a response.

"Look, I think Trump is the best option out there, but quit pretending he's perfect."

Here's what I see: Trump also used Poles to help build Trump Tower many years ago.

What it looks like to me, is that he has a specific like for the Polish people. Given that Poles can't immigrate here easily because they're disfavored, and come from a poor, but hard working and uncucked society, he probably likes to help them some.

And I have no problem with that. The Poles are our Nationalist ALLIES.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/polish-magazine-causes-outrage-with-cover-showing-white-woman-being-sexually-attacked-by-migrants-a6879551.html

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/polish-nazis-drive-to-refugee-center-in-sweden-armed-with-knives-and-axes/

Josh, this isn't all as simple as 'Poland for Poles, America for Americans'.

This is the last holdouts of civilization against the internationalists. They are our allies. Attacking them just makes you look petty and ignorant.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:43 AM  

Cruz has promised day 1 to move the embassy to Jerusalem.

That has to be utter BS.

Looks like a realistic assumption and not BS.


http://www.jpost.com/US-Elections/Trump-pledges-to-move-US-embassy-from-Tel-Aviv-to-Jerusalem-442091

Blogger SciVo March 06, 2016 10:44 AM  

Cruz already knows he isn't likely to get enough delegates himself, so his winning strategy is to try to stop Trump, not to try to win himself.

Game theory says that Cruz needs to get Rubio and Kasich out of the race and get their endorsements right now so they can campaign for him and help him poach either Florida or Ohio.


No to the first, yes to the second. Since it's an iterative game, Cruz's winning strategy is to at least place.

The first is true of the GOPe, which is why they trotted out Romney to tell everyone to vote for Kasich in Ohio and Rubio in Florida. (That's why his message was so muddled: because his intent was maximum chaos.)

The second is true of Cruz, because he's relatively young. He already has three of the eight state delegate majorities needed to be presented as a candidate at the national convention, so contra the GOPe, he wants Rubio and Kasich to drop out yesterday.

If Cruz can just hold on long enough to get five more delegate majorities, even if they're small states with few delegates, then he can have pride of place and a lasting accomplishment. And the closer he can make it, the better.

No one would be ashamed to have come in second to a once-in-a-generation (or lifetime) candidate such as Trump, and as the only other presented candidate last time around, Cruz would be the presumptive front-runner in 2024 (or 2020 if Trump doesn't run).

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:45 AM  

Josh, this isn't all as simple as 'Poland for Poles, America for Americans'.

Actually, it is.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 10:46 AM  

Roger Stone ‏@RogerJStoneJr 55m55 minutes ago

FUN FACT- to get on the ballot in all 50 states as an Independent one would need to be collecting signatures in TEXAS now #Today

Hoping this is more than just a fun fact from Stone. So Trump can be the one to finally break the two party system.

They must be able to see Trump's easiest and safest path to POTUS is an an Indy. Predicted this a week ago here.

Anonymous Til March 06, 2016 10:49 AM  

Great response, Josh. Really flexing that brain, there.

You've at times had the ring of a midwit. Thanks for proving it.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 10:56 AM  

Great response, Josh. Really flexing that brain, there.

You've at times had the ring of a midwit. Thanks for proving it.


I thought the whole point of Trump was America for Americans.

If it's America for Poles or America for seasonal workers, what is the point of Trump?

Blogger SciVo March 06, 2016 11:00 AM  

To clarify, since I'm agreeing in the conclusions, I guess my only point of disagreement is that I think the only way to "stop" Trump is to have three candidates trying to bleed off enough delegates to keep him from getting a clear majority. So maybe I misunderstood what was meant by that.

Blogger pyrrhus March 06, 2016 11:02 AM  

@100 I think you're right. Cruz can afford to play the long game, since he is young. He wasn't expected to get the nomination this year anyway...

Blogger praetorian March 06, 2016 11:04 AM  

OT, but not really: Chaotic-Americans shut down a mall in what used to be the wealthiest city in america over some shoes:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/03/05/chaotic-crowd-looking-to-buy-new-air-jordan-shoes-forces-eastland-mall-to-close/

Chaotic Lives Matter.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:07 AM  

"I thought the whole point of Trump was America for Americans.

If it's America for Poles or America for seasonal workers, what is the point of Trump?"

This is pretty disingenuous statement considering the amount of American's Trump has hired over his time compared to those 200 Polish workers here hired in 1983.

And truly, what does it matter if Trump is willing to change the laws now and have his businesses adhere to them?

You guys accept Cruz's total about face politically and believe he is "anti-establishment" now. To not give Trump the same consideration, despite the fact that Trump was neither a politician or running for any office, but acting as a businessman. Makes you a hypocrite with no standards.

Anonymous paradox March 06, 2016 11:08 AM  

It's more realistic that Cruz will actually do it. Remember, Trump is pandering and won't do it.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:08 AM  

You guys accept Cruz's total about face politically and believe he is "anti-establishment" now. To not give Trump the same consideration, despite the fact that Trump was neither a politician or running for any office, but acting as a businessman. Makes you a hypocrite with no standards.

I'm not a Cruz guy. I've never been a Cruz guy.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:10 AM  

And truly, what does it matter if Trump is willing to change the laws now and have his businesses adhere to them?

To quote Hillary Clinton, "what difference does it make?"

Right?

Blogger SciVo March 06, 2016 11:10 AM  

I am nagged by one serious doubt concerning what I've been told about Ted Cruz, and it's not related to the obvious one concerning the extent to which he is the Goldman Sachs-preferred, CFR-approved candidate. If, as we are told, the establishment hates him so much more than Trump, why has Cruz been overperforming so dramatically in the states where the GOPe has more influence in the process.

I think that's because there is more than one GOPe, best distinguished by where their money comes from. The donor class, which gets its money from investments, may be fine with him. The elected class, which gets its money from the donors, may despise him for not being a team player. The consultant class, which gets its money from the elected class, probably doesn't care as long as the checks clear. The functionary class, which gets its money from the party, might fear that he will rock the boat. And the volunteer class, which gets its money from outside jobs, may like him quite well for articulating a conservative viewpoint that is consistent with their identity.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:11 AM  

"I'm not a Cruz guy. I've never been a Cruz guy."

So you acknowledge that Cruz is with the establishment then?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 06, 2016 11:11 AM  


Anyone but Cruz or Trump coming out on top of the GOP nomination process is likely to enrage the GOP base, such that many opt out of the upcoming election, and the Party itself. I doubt many of the GOPe hardliners are bright enough to see that far ahead of their noses.


Agree. Last summer before Trump really got rolling I talked informally with some GOP movers in my state. I told them that there were a lot of voters I knew, GOP lifetime voters, who were fed up with the Bush family and who would never vote for ¡Jeb! no matter what. They stared at me like I was nuts. Blank faces. They could not process.

Haven't had the time to talk one on one with any of them since, so I don't know how they dealt with the ¡Jeb! implosion. But I bet they are still in denial over the anger in the GOP base. And these are state guys, supposed to be smart and close to the grassroots.

GOPe in DC might as well be on Mars for all they know.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 06, 2016 11:12 AM  

"Trump also used Poles to help build Trump Tower many years ago."

In that 1984 case the Poles were hired by either the general contractor or a sub contractor.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:13 AM  

So you acknowledge that Cruz is with the establishment then?

He's more establishment than a Ron or Rand Paul.

Blogger praetorian March 06, 2016 11:15 AM  

They will be persuaded when Trump stops reminding them of his vulgarity and starts reminding them that the consequences of not stopping the immigration means that They. Lose. Everything. Forever.

Trump has started moving that direction, talking about unity and aiming all his attacks at Rubio, who is clearly done.

We Trumpenstaffel can now transition into the magnanimous second phase of Operation Overcomb. The God-Emperor needs votes now (until after the election, when he can abolish all this unnecessary theater, of course) so, with the GOPe in smoldering ruins (and fully admitting Cruz's help with that happy situation) we should begin gathering the survivors.

Nate saying he'd be fine with Trump or Cruz was the bell.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:15 AM  

>And truly, what does it matter if Trump is willing to change the laws now and have his businesses adhere to them?

"To quote Hillary Clinton, "what difference does it make?"

Right?"

You full well know the context of the statement was based on all people change their views. Including your golden boy Rand who flipped his position on war.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:15 AM  

Obviously those Polish workers were born American at heart, because we all know that family values don't stop at the Oder.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:16 AM  

Including your golden boy Rand who flipped his position on war.

What position?

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:16 AM  

>So you acknowledge that Cruz is with the establishment then?

"He's more establishment than a Ron or Rand Paul."

I didn't ask you for a weasel out comparison.

It's a simple yes or no answer.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:19 AM  

I didn't ask you for a weasel out comparison.

It's a simple yes or no answer.


Did you order the code red?

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:19 AM  

>Including your golden boy Rand who flipped his position on war.

"What position?"

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/03/rand_pauls_flip_flop_nightmare_non_interventionist_now_backs_war_in_the_middle_east/

Anonymous Bukulu March 06, 2016 11:20 AM  

Snidely,.

' for one brief shining moment, Julia Roberts is almost attractive! "

Nice try, but you left out "a bag over her head to hide her moose face".

Anonymous Bobby Farr March 06, 2016 11:21 AM  

I would think that in the absence of significant countervailing considerations, none of which I've heard convincingly argued by a Cruz supporter, Cruz's foreign ethnicity and, until recently, Canadian citizenship, should bar him from serious consideration by anyone who claims to be a nationalist. I don't see how you justify supporting a foreigner as your leader in the absence of some revolutionary platform to reclaim the country, which Cruz certainly doesn't claim to have.

Blogger Ceasar March 06, 2016 11:21 AM  

#84
"Til, if you bothered to research you would have seen that a placement company sent Trump hundreds of American applicants and Trump only hired two dozen."

That is the problem all companies, to include mine, has dealing with placement companies. You have to pay these companies far above wage since they are finding the employees for you. Also, they are more inclined to refer "lower quality" candidates. My company does look and interview placement company candidates but from experience we have little expectation and usually hire directly since we don't have to pay the placement company fees. For example, an IT Tech normally makes $24/hr but if we hire from a placement company it shots up to $38/hr and we have to pay a lump sum fee if we want to hire the employee full-time away from the placement company. I don't see any issues with what Trump did for temporary hiring.

Blogger Salt March 06, 2016 11:22 AM  

Til wrote:We should WANT Polish immigrants instead of what we get.

No. We should prefer them over what we are currently getting, but conversely, we should not be getting any of any stripe at all.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:23 AM  

Salon is a fully converged SJW site.

If you had paid attention to politics before last summer, you would know that Rand was arguing that if the US was going to fight ISIS, they needed to follow the constitution and declare war. That's the whole point of his email to the AP.

I'll note that Ron Paul made similar arguments about needing a declaration of war before invading Iraq.

So, nice try bouncy boy, but that dog don't hunt.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:23 AM  

"Did you order the code red?"

Run it in a different direction. I didn't expect anything less from you.

Everyone here knows why you refuse to answer. Because if you say Cruz is establishment. It would contradict what your idol Nate believes about him.

So once again, you are a hypocrite with respects to your views on Trump... and you have no standards.

Blogger Otto Lamp March 06, 2016 11:24 AM  

The questions about what Cruz would do if elected are moot. He can't win a general election.

Do some research on:

New Apostolic Reformation (commonly referred to as NAR)
Seven Mountains Dominionism

This is the religious crowd Cruz and his dad run with. Their religious beliefs make Appalachian snake handles look mainstream.

When they refer to someone as an apostle, they LITERALLY believe they are a modern day apostle no different than Peter or Paul; that they LITERALLY hear God speaking to them; and thus their pronouncements carry "Thus saith the Lord" weight--literally the same weight as scripture.

The left is always claiming Christians want to create a theocracy, which isn't true--except for the Seven Mountains folks. The seven mountains are seven areas of society Christians are supposed to take over and run according to the Bible. One of those "mountains" is government.

Can you imaging the field day the MSM will have with Cruz's beliefs? The only bright spot is the media is so inept at religious reporting, that they may not figure it out. But if they do and expose the details of Cruz's NAR beliefs, Cruz is sunk.

Blogger kmbr March 06, 2016 11:25 AM  

Cruz did well with the Elmer Gantry vote but he’s about to run out of states with Huckabee-Santorum voters. Religious zealotry only sells in a few trucon majority states--the rest of the country is turned off by it.

Say, nothing about the fact that Cruz can not win the general election. If it is Cruz/Biden--(and I think it will be Biden) Biden destroys Cruz.

Remember at that point all the fraud favors the Democrats, probably because the Republicans seem to forget how to cheat suddenly because I think they actually prefer to be lose.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:26 AM  

Everyone here knows why you refuse to answer. Because if you say Cruz is establishment. It would contradict what your idol Nate believes about him.

So once again, you are a hypocrite with respects to your views on Trump... and you have no standards.


Cruz is more establishment than Ron or Rand Paul but less establishment than Trump.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:26 AM  

" but that dog don't hunt."

Oh it definitely hunts.

“If I were President,” Paul wrote in an email to the Associated Press, “I would call a joint session of Congress. I would lay out the reasoning of why ISIS is a threat to our national security and seek congressional authorization to destroy ISIS militarily.” That’s an overly simplified version of what the U.S. is looking at when it comes to confronting the terrorist group. Any U.S. effort to “destroy ISIS militarily” will require a huge commitment of men and materiel, along with political commitments from regional actors, and will take years.

And as Steve Benen points out, this is a complete flip from what Rand Paul was saying just last week about America’s role and responsibility in confronting ISIS:

A week ago today, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal condemning “interventionists,” who are quick to use military force abroad “with little thought to the consequences.” Over the course of his 900-word piece, the Republican senator was dismissive of the “hawkish members of my own party.”

“A more realistic foreign policy would recognize that there are evil people and tyrannical regimes in this world, but also that America cannot police or solve every problem across the globe,” Paul wrote. “Only after recognizing the practical limits of our foreign policy can we pursue policies that are in the best interest of the U.S.”

Blogger Nick S March 06, 2016 11:27 AM  

Otto Lamp wrote:One of those "mountains" is government.

It's a start.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:29 AM  

>Everyone here knows why you refuse to answer. Because if you say Cruz is establishment. It would contradict what your idol Nate believes about him.

So once again, you are a hypocrite with respects to your views on Trump... and you have no standards.

"Cruz is more establishment than Ron or Rand Paul but less establishment than Trump."

When you grow a pair and can answer the yes or no question. Let me know.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 06, 2016 11:30 AM  

@Til
Shut up

@Josh, sorry for that. Sometimes they get out of the isolation ward.

On a more reality-oriented level, I'm pretty sure Trump doesn't have anything directly to do with hiring wait staff and maids at his properties. Or construction laborers for that matter. That happens at least 6 levels below him, if companies I work for are any guide.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:30 AM  

And as Steve Benen points out, this is a complete flip from what Rand Paul was saying just last week about America’s role and responsibility in confronting ISIS:

No, you moron, it's not.

Rand didn't think we should go to war with ISIS.

He also didn't think that Obama had any authorization to go to war.

So, he said that if Obama wanted to go to war with ISIS, he needed to go before congress and make the case for war.

Now, you might be too stupid to actually understand that, compounded by your devotion to progressive SJW news sites like Salon, but I hope others can understand what I just typed above.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:33 AM  

When you grow a pair and can answer the yes or no question. Let me know.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

I have already answered your question.

Blogger SciVo March 06, 2016 11:36 AM  

Mike wrote:In fact, what makes no sense about how well Trump did in Virginia is that if they were running for governor, Cruz would have monkey stomped Trump in popularity because his views on issues like government power, gun control and stuff like that are perfectly in line with mainstream Virginia voters.

That implies that the determining factor was foreign relations.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:39 AM  

"compounded by your devotion to progressive SJW news sites like Salon"

I've pointed out the bad of Salon here before in great detail. But it doesn't change that fact that your boy flipped his views on war. Salon is spot on with this.

http://www.nationalinterest.org/feature/unleashed-the-gop-vs-the-world-12694

http://fpif.org/rand-pauls-foreign-policy-flip-flop-not-likely-to-win-him-many-friends/

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/meet-the-press-24-7/rand-paul-has-his-own-history-flip-flops-n337326

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-pauls-defense-of-his-iran-flip-flop-doesnt-hold-water/article/2562790

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:42 AM  

"I have already answered your question."

No you didn't. There were only two answers, yes or no. And you offered neither of them.

Blogger Verne March 06, 2016 11:42 AM  

If one more ignorant fool tries to act like they know what the legal definition of natural born citizen is. As they try to say a man born a legal citizen of the USA isn't one. I just might personally "bitch slap da bitch".
with that out of the way, While Cruz is personally less respected ( liked) by the repulican party learders, with his, I will not negotiate style. I believe the anybody but Trump campaign they have created. It has boxed them in as Cruz supporters, after the fall of Rubio. This election has proved that the leaders of the Republican Party are incredibly inept campaign strategists

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:43 AM  

I agree that Rand has flip flopped on Iran. I don't agree with his rejection of the nuclear deal.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 11:44 AM  

No you didn't. There were only two answers, yes or no. And you offered neither of them.

Only a binary thinker thinks there are only two answers.

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 11:49 AM  

"I agree that Rand has flip flopped on Iran."

So we have now established that everyone flips their opinions. Which makes you a hypocrite with no standards with respects to your Trump criticisms, as previously stated. Good to have that cleared up.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/31/ron-paul-s-passive-aggressive-campaign-against-rand-paul.html

Blogger S1AL March 06, 2016 12:04 PM  

@sigbouncer - False Dilemma Fallacy already? It's not even noon.

Blogger James Dixon March 06, 2016 12:07 PM  

> And truly, what does it matter if Trump is willing to change the laws now and have his businesses adhere to them?

If he is willing to and succeeds in doing so, not much. If...

> So you acknowledge that Cruz is with the establishment then?

Allow me to phrase that question a different way. Can a sitting senator be considered anything other than part of the establishment?

Now, whether he's liked or supported by the rest of the establishment is another question entirely.

> There were only two answers, yes or no. And you offered neither of them.

The rule is answer the question, not answer it in the way you want. Vox is the only one here who can demand a yes/no answer.

> As they try to say a man born a legal citizen of the USA isn't one.

If the Constitution had meant born a legal citizen, it would have said so. "Natural born" and "born a legal" aren't the same thing.

But of course no one knows the currently accepted legal definition. Our betters haven't told us what it is yet.

> I just might personally "bitch slap da bitch".

You're welcome to try.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 12:14 PM  

Allow me to phrase that question a different way. Can a sitting senator be considered anything other than part of the establishment?

Could a sitting US representative?

Anonymous BGKB March 06, 2016 12:15 PM  

GOPe = homely girl who thinks she can pick and choose her boyfriend

GOPe= Homely granddaughter of George Soros, used to having her pick of boyfriends.

Trump tells Bibi live on the air that he accepts his 1997 offer (given before Congress) of ending the practice of receiving billions in annual aid

He needs to grant Warren Buffets wish of paying as much in taxes as his secretary, but if he actually wanted that he wouldn't spend millions every year fighting the IRS.

I still suspect the Party is still angling for the 'brokered' convention

I am afraid by hooker and by crook Jeb will win a brokered convention.

More moderate, pragmatic evangelicals vote Trump, those looking for Armageddon vote Cruz.

I thought Bernie was the Armageddon candidate, Satanists endorsed him Bern Like Hell

"There really should be only one question for the GOP. Who has the best chance of beating Hillary? "

Who will ((((diebold))) hold the vote button down for?

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 12:17 PM  

"The rule is answer the question, not answer it in the way you want. Vox is the only one here who can demand a yes/no answer."

Fair enough. Thanks for that clarification, James. Duly noted for next time.

The point I was driving towards still stands. One cannot accept or allow for one to flip his opinion/view. And not allow another to flip their opinion/view. Without being a hypocrite with no standards.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 12:18 PM  

The point I was driving towards still stands. One cannot accept or allow for one to flip his opinion/view. And not allow another to flip their opinion/view. Without being a hypocrite with no standards.

Your syntax is verging close to thordaddy's.

Blogger Escoffier March 06, 2016 12:21 PM  

Josh wrote:Obviously those Polish workers were born American at heart, because we all know that family values don't stop at the Oder.

If only they were Portugese, sigh...

Blogger James Dixon March 06, 2016 12:23 PM  

> Could a sitting US representative?

I'm not sure. Given the history of the House and the great diversity of the districts out there, I think a case could be made that one could (I'd have a hard time arguing Ron Paul was establishment when he as in the House for instance). I think we can all agree that the odds are against it.

Blogger Michael Maier March 06, 2016 12:23 PM  

Chaotic-Americans... good one. Don't think I'd seen that before.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 12:25 PM  

(I'd have a hard time arguing Ron Paul was establishment when he as in the House for instance). I think we can all agree that the odds are against it.

I agree with both points.

Anonymous 11B March 06, 2016 12:25 PM  

Attacking Donald for Polish workers is straight out of the left's playbook.

It is a cowardly attack. They attack Polish workers because they fear attacking Mexicans. Though Mexicans are the driving force behind the immigration wave, attacking them might lead to charges of racism. So they stick to attacking the Poles where the threat of the racist charge is non-existent, even though the number of Polish immigrants is very small.

This is similar to the UK. Clearly the problem is with muslim immigration, i.e. Pakistanis. But the only group that seems to get criticized in the British press are Polish immigrants.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 12:27 PM  

It is a cowardly attack. They attack Polish workers because they fear attacking Mexicans. Though Mexicans are the driving force behind the immigration wave, attacking them might lead to charges of racism. So they stick to attacking the Poles where the threat of the racist charge is non-existent, even though the number of Polish immigrants is very small.

Are you talking about people on this blog, or people elsewhere?

Blogger James March 06, 2016 12:32 PM  

I prefer Ted Cruz to Adolf Trump because Ted Cruz knows more about how to operate the controls of the government, and I think that Ted Cruz is sufficiently nationalistic and constitutional to make him acceptable. Adolf Trumpler is my second choice. Everyone else is unworthy of my vote as far as I can tell. So if Cruz wins or Trump wins I'm jiggy widdit. I do admit, though, that my sentimental favorite is leaning towards Adolf Trumpler, just because he so inflames the people I hate so much. Cruz is my number one because I think there is some truth in the saying, they hate Adolf Trumpler but they fear Ted Cruz. If only a mad scientist could combine the 2 men into one massively scary monster.

Blogger S1AL March 06, 2016 12:35 PM  

I'd kinda love to see Cruz as AG, with license to slaughter every sacred cows he can find.

Blogger Josh March 06, 2016 12:37 PM  

I'd kinda love to see Cruz as AG, with license to slaughter every sacred cows he can find.

He'd be much better on SCOTUS.

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Anonymous BGKB March 06, 2016 12:47 PM  

(((Josh))), this isn't all as simple as 'Poland for Poles, America for Americans'...Actually, it is.

Josh fill in the blank: White Homelands for _______


I thought the whole appeal of Trump was putting American workers first...America for the Americans, Poland for the Poles.

That's far better than what we have been getting in Bath House Barry Obama cut the # of diseases travel banned from the US in half. http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/doctors-rip-obama-for-opening-border-to-exotic-stds/

I mean there can't possibly be any unemployed people he could bus in from nearby inner cities

Trump was looking for people to actually do honest work. When I heard about a rapper Soulja boy buying a $55million dollar jet, I said it was stupid because you cant land a 55 million jet at small airports, only to find out it is a $20million jet with 35mill worth of bling. I joked that the gold plated diamond studded stripper pole would be stolen each flight, & that he wouldn't even give $5 to a charity that frees black slaves in Africa.

"Did you order the code red?" No the chicken cordon bleu

Blogger James Dixon March 06, 2016 1:07 PM  

> Trump was looking for people to actually do honest work.

You left out the second half of my sentence, BGKB.

Anonymous Wyrd March 06, 2016 1:10 PM  

@praetorian

OT, but not really: Chaotic-Americans shut down a mall in what used to be the wealthiest city in america over some shoes:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/03/05/chaotic-crowd-looking-to-buy-new-air-jordan-shoes-forces-eastland-mall-to-close/

Chaotic Lives Matter.


Blood and soles for my homie Arioch

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 1:15 PM  

@30 Nate
But I still believe the main core of the GOPe... McCain... Payl Ryan... Mitch McConnell... they hate Cruz.
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But surely you are not saying they love Trump. The fact these Cuckservatives are wanting to "cut a deal" with Cruz is telling. Linda Graham is a big part of the Cucksters, and he's already been jabbering about supporting Cruz a few days after wanting to murder him.

Anonymous VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go ‘Hmm’” March 06, 2016 1:16 PM  

It’s a fact that Cruz voted for Fast Track before he voted against it, but Cruz wrote an editorial for Breitbart that said he changed because the bill was substantially changed in the House before it came back to the Senate. Plausible explanation that he’s not a flip-flopper, given that there were indeed changes made re: Export-Import Bank and immigration crap was stuffed in there by House leadership. HOWEVER, IF THAT STUFF HAD BEEN LEFT OUT HE WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR FREE TRADE AND FAST-TRACK AUTHORITY. Thus none of the arguments you guys are having about whether he’s a flip-flopper acknowledges the fact that Cruz and Paul Ryan argued for more jobs overseas versus in America:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/putting-congress-in-charge-on-trade-1429659409

Step 1: We (Cruz & Ryan) strongly urge that Congress pass this bill for Fast-Track authority.
Step 2: ___
Step 3: Profit (for CEOs paying lower labor costs)!

------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/23/exclusive-ted-cruz-obamatrade-enmeshed-in-corrupt-backroom-dealings/

“Taking McConnell at his word that there was no deal on Ex-Im, I voted yes on TPA because I believe the U.S. generally benefits from free trade, and without TPA historically there have been no free-trade agreements.”—DIRECT QUOTE FROM TED CRUZ AUTHORED EDITORIAL

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 1:23 PM  

@42 Steve

Wasn't Cruz down at the border not long ago, handing out goodie bags to invaders with Glenn Beck?

Tells you all you need to know.
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A Tundra Teddy classic, co-starring Blubberin' Beck:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/18/mike-lee-sends-regrets-ted-cruz-signs-up-for-glenn-beck-soccer-balls-teddy-bears/

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 1:27 PM  

@51 Escoffier
Sad to say but a Blue Dog Democrat would be infinitely superior to the GOPe.
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Last one I remember was Zell Miller, and he's probably 80ish now.

Blogger Sean March 06, 2016 1:29 PM  

I was wondering if Trump is truly an alpha, or another rank who adopted alpha characteristics. The reason I ask is he clearly has an obsession over the size of his hands and all that entails. To me that means he has deep seeded insecurities. Do alphas have that trait?

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 1:31 PM  

Paul Ryan can get along fine with Tundra Teddy

http://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398270

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 06, 2016 1:36 PM  

@ Dr. Φ


One more thing: it is manifest that the GOPe's (e.g., Mitt's) attacks on Trump as "racist" are counterproductive[...]I would encourage the commenters here to not make the same mistake with respect to Cruz's supporters. Trump currently has only 1/3 of the evangelical vote. I believe another 1/3 to be persuadable, but they won't be persuaded by insults like "churchian". They will be persuaded when Trump stops reminding them of his vulgarity and starts reminding them that the consequences of not stopping the immigration means that They. Lose. Everything. Forever.


Will all due respect; we know most evangelicals are totally cucked. They take their twisted version of "Be in the world, not of the world" to a satanic extreme. They will sell out their own children just to save as many Somalian souls as possible by bringing them over here (make some money doing it too) just so they can fly up and meet Jeeeezus in the clouds on the day of the rapture.

Jesus, the Son of God made flesh; who admonished us not to take the bread of our children to give to the dogs: wept.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 1:38 PM  

@65 Steve
It'd be cuckicide.
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That is what I meant by
TRUMPAGEDDON: Twilight of the Cucks
Even though Nate will yell at me about it :P

These Cucks have exposed themselves like never before, and pretty much everyone can see it clearly now. Who knows how many more layers of the onion will be peeled back before this is over.

So even if Trump loses, he's proven valuable on shining a big light on some of the corruption.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 06, 2016 1:44 PM  

@ Dr. Φ


One more thing: it is manifest that the GOPe's (e.g., Mitt's) attacks on Trump as "racist" are counterproductive[...]I would encourage the commenters here to not make the same mistake with respect to Cruz's supporters. Trump currently has only 1/3 of the evangelical vote. I believe another 1/3 to be persuadable, but they won't be persuaded by insults like "churchian". They will be persuaded when Trump stops reminding them of his vulgarity and starts reminding them that the consequences of not stopping the immigration means that They. Lose. Everything. Forever.


Will all due respect; we know most evangelicals are totally cucked. They take their twisted version of "Be in the world, not of the world" to a satanic extreme. They will sell out their own children just to save as many Somalian souls as possible by bringing them over here (make some money doing it too) just so they can fly up and meet Jeeeezus in the clouds on the day of the rapture.

Jesus, the Son of God made flesh; who admonished us not to take the bread of our children to give to the dogs: wept.

Anonymous redsash March 06, 2016 1:51 PM  

I have this against thee Ted Cruz. You turned your back on Palestinian Christians who balked at supporting all the goals and plans of a secular Israel.

Anonymous Jim Scrummy March 06, 2016 1:55 PM  

Anyone thinking that Cruz is going to win Virginia is nuts. The govies and their govie contractors remember what Cruz did to them with the gubmint shut down in the Fall of 2013, in Northern VA. The govies got repaid, but the contractors who were furloughed, didn't in most cases. Long memories. Cruz is not coming anywhere close to even tying in Northern VA if he is the nominee. If he can't be close to tying in Northern VA, he ain't winnning, no matter how well he does in the rest of the VA.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:01 PM  

@107 praetorian
OT, but not really: Chaotic-Americans shut down a mall in what used to be the wealthiest city in america over some shoes:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/03/05/chaotic-crowd-looking-to-buy-new-air-jordan-shoes-forces-eastland-mall-to-close/

Chaotic Lives Matter.
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Those shoes are like Gold Bars to a certain segment of the community

Blogger Ingot9455 March 06, 2016 2:07 PM  

On the 'move the US Embassy to Jerusalem' bit:

Most every Presidential candidate promises it and they never do it, because it is dumb.

Real Jerusalem is kind of small and old and doesn't have really good high-tech infrastructure like you would want at a serious embassy where you do work. Traffic is a problem. Parking is a problem. Not even getting into any political problems with building.

Jerusalem population - 800,000, a little bigger than current Detroit.
Greater Tel Aviv Metropolitan Area population - 3,700,000. 42% of Israel's population lives in the greater metro area surrounding Tel Aviv. (400,000 in Tel Aviv itself.)

The main embassy, where you service passports and do visa stampings and all of the everyday work where people stream in and out of the doors with papers, has to be in Tel Aviv so people can get to it. For more official government communication work, all the people that an Ambassador would want to talk to are in Tel Aviv too.

The US has a small satellite embassy office in Jerusalem for normal work.

And every Presidential candidate gets into office, learns this, and lets it drop.
Sure, it would be nice to have a big embassy in Jerusalem so it could get accidentally bombed and allow the US to counteratttack the Palestinians, but really, like that's going to happen.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:07 PM  

@125 Bobby Farr

Indeed.

Current Anchor Baby and Foreign Usurper list:
Tundra Teddy
Narco Lubio
Burnout Sanders

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:14 PM  

@130 Otto Lamp

Do some research on:

New Apostolic Reformation (commonly referred to as NAR)
Seven Mountains Dominionism
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Now you're bringing up some fun stuff :P

Here's a couple links about Nutter Rafael Cruz and this crazy religion.

They have anointed Teddy King of America, Felito I the Looter

http://www.alternet.org/speakeasy/brucewilson/ted-cruzs-father-suggested-his-son-anointed-bring-about-end-time-transfer

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh263.htm


Bonus: Dad was a Commie Fighting With Castro

http://nomoremister.blogspot.ae/2013/06/ted-cruzs-father-fought-with-fidel.html

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:20 PM  

@137 Josh
So, he said that if Obama wanted to go to war with ISIS, he needed to go before congress and make the case for war.
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Obamis knew Congress wouldn't side with him joining ISIS

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:23 PM  

@142 Verne

If one more ignorant fool tries to act like they know what the legal definition of natural born citizen is. As they try to say a man born a legal citizen of the USA isn't one. I just might personally "bitch slap da bitch".
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Look, it's another ranting Globalist with a Foreign name yelling at us actual Natural Born Citizens again.

Bring it, don't sing it

Blogger Matt Edwards March 06, 2016 2:25 PM  

12. Millenium
The problem with you working yourself into such an ideological lather is that if Trump loses, you'll have to move to a shack in Montana. Maybe you should consider the possibility that other candidates have legitimate differences with you.

Blogger Matt Edwards March 06, 2016 2:28 PM  

14. Mr.MantraMan March 06, 2016 8:00 AM
I don't want school boy Cruz coming back to his little gang and telling us of how he snookered the authority I want an Alpha coming back with the former authority's head.

This is the kind of childishness that irks me from Trump supporters.
Neither you nor any other person on this site, nor all of you put together has the power to make the establishment disappear. They might be out of power for a while, but they won't just evaporate.
Lack of power sharing is what got the establishment into this mess. Don't make the same mistake.
It's fine if the new management is 70/30 to your advantage, but if you think it's going to be 100/0, you are mistaken.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:29 PM  

@154 Michael Maier

Chaotic-Americans... good one. Don't think I'd seen that before.
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Believe it or not, our pal Senor Jebster was tossing around a similar term not long ago:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-republican-debate-jeb-bush-and-donald-trump-argue-about-muslim-ban/

Blogger Matt Edwards March 06, 2016 2:34 PM  

17. Fred March 06, 2016 8:13 AM
..and here I thought Repubs in KS/ME were just plain stoopid. Cruz has zero chance in the general. All Cruz did was move Repubs closer to a contested convention which insures a third party run which guarantees a Clinton victory.

From the very beginning, we told you that Trump's negatives were higher than any other candidate's but somehow you think it is Cruz who's unelectable in the general.
Here's another idea: maybe you were wrong.

Blogger Matt Edwards March 06, 2016 2:36 PM  

22. dienw March 06, 2016 8:26 AM
For those who think Cruz is rightfully winning: the evidence is that the primaries are being stolen. The elite insiders are doing all they can to maintain control.

Conspiracy theories from the kook fringe.

Anonymous FrankNorman March 06, 2016 2:39 PM  

A question here - when a comment says "This comment has been removed by the author" does that mean by the person who made the comment, or the blog owner?

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:39 PM  

Hi Matt, now that you are here Josh can take a break :P

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:40 PM  

@186 FrankNorman

A question here - when a comment says "This comment has been removed by the author" does that mean by the person who made the comment, or the blog owner?
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The person who made the comment. Vox will usually give a warning before doing something like removing a comment.

Blogger S1AL March 06, 2016 2:46 PM  

Yeah, there's an issue where certain browsers will resend a post if you hit the back button, especially on mobile devices. I think I deleted one too many comments.

I had meant to say that Cruz is way too young for a SCOTUS spot. That's a career-capper.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 06, 2016 2:48 PM  

Is it too early to bring up Hitler?

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/06/glenn-beck-on-donald-trump/

OpenID sigbouncer March 06, 2016 3:05 PM  

"but somehow you think it is Cruz who's unelectable in the general."

The Democrat ads against Cruz would go something like this:

"Ted Cruz ambulance chaser turned politician.
Cruz will steal everything you own and even eat your boogers."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BNtP7tN8I

Paid for by the Committee to Elect Hillary Clinton for President.

Blogger RobertT March 06, 2016 3:20 PM  

191 comments.

Good job.
The analysis was spot on.

"Now, don't get me wrong, it was a great night for Cruz, but it was a great night because it showed he is the only alternative to Trump"

I don't know how much you remember about American politics, or if you were ever involved at the down and dirty caucus level, but something that hasn't been made a big deal of is rather critical ... and that's this ... caucuses tend to be dominated by the local establishment, who live to lick the boots of the state establishment, who live to lick the boots of the national establishment. You go to one of their meetings and that' all they talk about. "Senator yahoo called me last week." "The Congressman wanted my advice on..."

Trump will never do well in caucus states. Kentucky may have been the only caucus state he's won. I don't really know, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Another thing I've noticed, he tends to do better in larger states than smaller states. Which bodes well for him in your analysis above.

There's a pretty good article on the alt right here ...
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/03/06/big-tentism/
Sorry I don't have time to embed it.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 06, 2016 3:25 PM  

@ Matt Edwards

"Kooky conspiracy theories"


It's like "racist,sexist,homophobic"

We.Don't.Care. now run along and scold someone else

Btw, ive got a response to Dr. Q in spam hell?

Blogger Ingot9455 March 06, 2016 4:25 PM  

Trump also does better in crossover states where registered Reagan democrats can vote for him. The majority of the remaining olaces are closed, except I think, The big boy California.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 06, 2016 4:26 PM  

Trump also does better in crossover states where registered Reagan democrats can vote for him. The majority of the remaining olaces are closed, except I think, The big boy California.

Blogger Halifax Donair March 06, 2016 4:40 PM  

@7 the slick bible thumping lawyer (hey, if he leaves the senate he can be a televangelist) beats the vulgar blue-collar billionaire

When I drive, I keep my eyes on the road and pay attention. So often what I thought was a GOP debate turned out to be the Joel Osteen channel. I wish I was joking.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar March 06, 2016 5:14 PM  

Cruz is a slimeball. He's a fake Churchian pretend Christian if I've ever seen one. He's so sleazy even the other political whores don't like him. He's a camera hog and doesn't share the spotlight with the other whores.
Little Ricky Rubio is a towelboy who blew enough donors to make a place for himself. He's obviously dumb as a post and coached with buzzwords he repeats endlessly. He might as well be an animatronic dummy at Disney World. He'd probably come off better that way. He's way too kissass to be taken seriously by voters, but that brown nose of his can butter those donors til they tingle enough to make him a Senator.
The Stupid Party will find a way to screw Trump. Reagan was a fluke. After two Bushes, these bozos and their circus tentpole party of Lincoln foolishly believe they can keep screwing voters and get away with it because there are only two parties.
These fuckers live in a bubble. Its an echo chamber of broken records playing the same old song every day. Its a fantasy land that hasn't seen the Depression due to all the money they stole, and dese nuts believe they are insulated by the cheap gates in their gated community from angry voters and hostile aliens.
The Tree of Liberty is getting thirsty boys...

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