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Friday, March 18, 2016

The art of virtue-signaling

She is furious, just FURIOUS, about her work appearing on the Sad Puppies IV list. Please to vote for her anyway:
Catherynne Valente ‏@catvalente
For the record, I was not asked and I do not consent to be on the Sad Puppies List. I am furious.

Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
Given their reputation, you'd probably have a pretty good legal case against the organisers for defamation of character.

VFM_5411
‏I get it @damiengwalter - if @catvalente doesn't disavow #sadpuppies then people might think she's one of THOSE people. As bad as @voxday.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
No one is as bad as Vox Day. That's sort of the point of being Supreme Dark Lord.
It's kind of impressive, in a way. Damien is even worse at lawyering than he is at writing. And he is a very bad writer.

I will be posting the Rabid Puppies 2016 list on Monday. Both Catherynne Valente and Damien Walter can relax. I don't recommend any of their works, because neither of them have written anything as as well-written or entertaining, or even as science fictional as "Space Raptor Butt Invasion".

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70 Comments:

Blogger S1AL March 18, 2016 2:33 PM  

I understand that the British have some very strange laws, but defamation of character? Even for a maladroit prat like Damien, that's a whole new level of stupidity.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 18, 2016 2:34 PM  

If Mz Valente is a "protected class" person I'm not even sure you can even disagree with her.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 18, 2016 2:35 PM  

It's kind of impressive, in a way. Damien is even worse at lawyering than he is at writing. And he is a very bad writer.

Is he a bad writer?

Do we know for sure yet?

Has his book (paid for by a grant by HRM's government and you'd think she had better taste than that) actually, finally and at long fucking last, really and truly been published?

Blogger exfarmkid March 18, 2016 2:39 PM  

"defamation of character"...because someone they don't like happens to like their work? Does Damien Walter have any sense of self-awareness at all?

Anonymous WinstonWebb March 18, 2016 2:42 PM  

Cataline SergiusMarch 18, 2016 2:35 PM
Has his book...actually, finally and at long fucking last, really and truly been published?


Careful. That's kind of a touchy subject for our esteemed host at yhr moment...

Anonymous Cadwallander J March 18, 2016 2:45 PM  

I sincerely hope that after this year's Hugo's are mercifully done, you would be willing to do a post-mortem on your grand strategery. It's probably due to the fact that I haven't read all of the works, but it appears to be part trolling, part serious submissions, and part WTF.

Whatever the goal may be, may success come with a gross of SJW scalps.

Anonymous WaterBoy March 18, 2016 2:46 PM  

@WinstonWebb

Damn, that's cold, bro.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 2:48 PM  

Oh the horror...she was secretly hoping for a mention by the Rabid Puppies.

Anonymous WaterBoy March 18, 2016 2:49 PM  

"Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
Given their reputation, you'd probably have a pretty good legal case against the organisers for defamation of character.
"


Then by the same token, so is this.

Reflective he is not.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 18, 2016 2:50 PM  

"Space Raptor Butt Invasion"

Still not as gay as "If you were a Dinosaur my Love"

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 2:55 PM  

WinstonWebb wrote:Cataline SergiusMarch 18, 2016 2:35 PM

Has his book...actually, finally and at long fucking last, really and truly been published?


Careful. That's kind of a touchy subject for our esteemed host at yhr moment...



Vox got a advance from the British gov't to write a book?

Anonymous DinoMember March 18, 2016 2:55 PM  

"Space Raptor Butt Invasion" should win, its got all the stuff SJWs crave like Gayness, forbidden love, and a non-judgemental take on interspecies love.

Blogger Chrom March 18, 2016 2:57 PM  

"Please tell the court, in your own words, exactly what was done to you."

"(Sniff) Well, your honor, they. . .(sob) they . . . NOMINATED me, for an AWARD! (Sobsobsob! Boo-hoo!)"

Blogger VD March 18, 2016 2:59 PM  

I sincerely hope that after this year's Hugo's are mercifully done, you would be willing to do a post-mortem on your grand strategery.

I am not in the habit of explaining myself where SJWs can hear. I find it much more amusing to listen to their explanations for my actions.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 18, 2016 3:03 PM  

Somebody you don't approve of likes your work. And you are furious. Idiocy mixed with narcissism.

This is not someone with good interpersonal skills.

Blogger Chrom March 18, 2016 3:06 PM  

"And now, please point to the spot on this Little Lotta doll where this nomination touched you."

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 18, 2016 3:07 PM  

The easiest way to be perceived as likable is to invite your interlocutor to talk about themselves. That is, ask questions about them, their likes, dislikes, hobbies, relatives. People like to talk about themselves and like people who encourage them to do so.

Something tells me Catherynne Valente is not aware of this conversational technique since everything is all about her.

Anonymous Big Bill March 18, 2016 3:11 PM  

She's happy at being picked by Sad Puppies. She must attack them, however, to signal her loyalties to SJW orthodoxy.

It does raise a host of tough moral issues, though.

How do vegetarians manage to sleep at night knowing Hitler was a vegetarian?

How do Jews drive to Miami knowing Hitler loved Interstate highways?

Perhaps worst of all, how can SJWs let their children play soccer knowing it is the favorite outdoor sport of the Supreme Dark Lord?

Anonymous Rantor March 18, 2016 3:11 PM  

I received my Hugo Voting email today... I await final guidance.

OpenID denektenorsk March 18, 2016 3:17 PM  

SPACE RAPTOR BUTT INVASION! Finally something all VFM can get 'behind' for the Hugos.

"Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
Given their reputation, you'd probably have a pretty good legal case against the organisers for defamation of character."


Seriously though, the mind boogles. Someone likes your work. DEFAMATION! I am reliably informed these people are our peers but I refuse to believe it.

Blogger Salt March 18, 2016 3:17 PM  

"I was immediately attacked on Twitter for this anger and confusion–aren’t I an ungrateful, horrible person for not being happy and honored that people liked my work? Aren’t I insulting my readers? Aren’t I trying to exclude certain opinions because I don’t agree with them politically? Aren’t the Puppies showing good faith by including such obviously SJW authors as myself, John Scalzi, Alyssa Wong, Nnedi Okorafor, and Ann Leckie? Shouldn’t I just sit down and shut up? Aren’t I actually the worst?"

Yes to all, you precious virtue-signaling snowflake.

Blogger YIH March 18, 2016 3:18 PM  

Space Raptor Butt Invasion. Too bad it can't be nominated, it deserves a Hugo for the name alone!
Or as Dave Barry might say; ''which would be a good name for a rock band''.
Oh, and one for ''Best cover illustration'' as well ;)
Speaking of names, guess who's now on the ''The Washington Redskins need to change their name!'' bandwagon?
(((Bernie Sanders))).
You know what? They should change the name, I suggest The Washington Grabblers!
After all, doesn't DC like to grab tax money?
*grins evilly*

Blogger Gaiseric March 18, 2016 3:20 PM  

@22: Of course it can be nominated.

Blogger Gaiseric March 18, 2016 3:25 PM  

Well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD2NJ88D7nA

OpenID denektenorsk March 18, 2016 3:25 PM  

From the link Salt provided:

So what do I do? Honestly, I still don’t know. My stomach hurts.

Oh, the poor dear. So triggerable. Please be voting for her our sad brethren.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 18, 2016 3:30 PM  

@16

DAMN IT!


I was about to do that joke.

Blogger Rabbi B March 18, 2016 3:30 PM  

Catherynne Valente ‏@catvalente

For the record, I was not asked and I do not consent to be on the Sad Puppies List. I am furious.


Feigned disgust. She's dying to be on the list. These people are horrible liars.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 3:32 PM  

Related: SP4 has "Safe Space and Rape Room" by "Daniel".

Is Daniel going with the single word name?

Blogger David of One March 18, 2016 3:32 PM  

How "novel" ... indignation at not being "butt hurt", feigning to be "butt hurt" and "offended" at being recognized as being a very good writer ... and worse yet ... having no control who can read, appreciate and express that appreciation without your hineyness permission!

Oh my! One should not really accept accolades, recognition and horror of horrors the royalties from their purchases ...

A token demonstration of resolve is required! Take $50 of the ill-gotten proceeds and donate it to the Invaded Butts of Space Raptor Bunny Repair Society of Gaia!

Anonymous Coal fired brisket March 18, 2016 3:34 PM  

I'm just waiting for this chick to threaten to not sleep with Hoyt.

Blogger Nick S March 18, 2016 3:41 PM  

2016 is shaping up to be a banner year for butt-hurt.

Anonymous DarthWheatley #2415 March 18, 2016 3:46 PM  

"Love is all that matters, in the end."

Struggling to control my gag reflex here....

If love is all that matters, why are they always so damn angry??

Blogger YIH March 18, 2016 3:46 PM  

Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
Given their reputation, you'd probably have a pretty good legal case against the organisers for defamation of character.

I'd love to see them try to file that suit:
Hizzoner: According to the complaint, you are seeking redress for being promoted for an author's award
Attorney: Yes, your honor.
Hizzoner: *cough* *cough* Bwahahahahaha! *cough* *cough* g'wan get outta here! Bar opens at 5. Case dismissed.
Damien, what a creepy name, shouldn't he be writing horror?

Blogger Lovekraft March 18, 2016 3:47 PM  

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/18/sweden-earth-hour-blackout-cancelled-because-of-migrant-rape/

Sorry, had to put this here.

Gives strength to the claim that western civilization is the truth - that when socialist nuts import violent jihadists, the only way to keep them from murdering you is to keep the lights on.

And who invented electricity and built the power stations? White western men.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 18, 2016 3:48 PM  

If love is all that matters, why are they always so damn angry??

Cause their assholes. And prigs.

Blogger Ahazuerus March 18, 2016 3:50 PM  

@31

an epic year. A red day, a raw day ... ere the sun rises!

.

[Yes, I know. Call it poetic license.]

Blogger Salt March 18, 2016 3:51 PM  

@34 That's covered in Vox's previous post.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab March 18, 2016 3:54 PM  

Hell no need to cut off the power. Just turn it off at the station and none of them will know what to do.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 3:56 PM  

Catherynne Valente ‏@catvalente
For the record, I was not asked and I do not consent to be on the Sad Puppies List. I am furious.

For the record, I was not asked and I do not consent to be on the Sexiest Women in SFF List. I am furious.

Anonymous Jill March 18, 2016 3:59 PM  

There are some artists inspired by muses that cause them to need to feel victimized and walk on a moral high ground, even if it's over something very small. At least, that's what I noticed when I made it through a handful of creative writing classes. Oh, well, the cover of her book is attractive. I wonder if it's any good.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 3:59 PM  

@34 That's awkward. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/03/terminal-convergence.html

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 4:08 PM  

35. Ron Winkleheimer March 18, 2016 3:48 PM
Cause their assholes.



hi, nate juniorheimer.


39. Jill March 18, 2016 3:59 PM
even if it's over something very small.



i was going to be polite and offer to teabag her ... but now you're making it look too much like i'd be setting myself up.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 18, 2016 4:11 PM  

Have the My Little Ponies people complained yet?

Just wondering here.

Anonymous Respectabiggle March 18, 2016 4:16 PM  

Disavowing Puppies is today's version of Vaclav Havel's Greengrocer:

I think it can safely be assumed that the overwhelming majority of shopkeepers never think about the slogans they put in their windows, nor do they use them to express their real opinions. That poster was delivered to our greengrocer from the enterprise headquarters along with the onions and carrots. He put them all into the window simply because it has been done that way for years, because everyone does it, and because that is the way it has to be. If he were to refuse, there could be trouble. He could be reproached for not having the proper decoration in his window; someone might even accuse him of disloyalty. He does it because these things must be done if one is to get along in life. It is one of the thousands of details that guarantee him a relatively tranquil life "in harmony with society," as they say.

http://vaclavhavel.cz/showtrans.php?cat=eseje&val=2_aj_eseje.html&typ=HTM

Blogger weka March 18, 2016 4:17 PM  

Gives strength to the claim that western civilization is the truth - that when socialist nuts import violent jihadists, the only way to keep them from murdering you is to keep the lights on.

Night vision googles. LTC Kratman can suggest the correct model. And cold Steel. Ditto, or Mad Mike if you want something more outre.

Anonymous Quartermaster March 18, 2016 4:20 PM  

@32
A good steak, lovingly grilled, matters a lot. If you are of that bent, a good Bourbon as well.

There are many things on that list they ignored. We already know they are of small mind, and that's, most likely, the main problem.

Blogger YIH March 18, 2016 4:22 PM  

Jill:
Oh, well, the cover of her book is attractive. I wonder if it's any good.
True, and they also scream ''young readers''. Preteen was a long time ago for me.
They look like books for those who ain't ready for the deep, deep literature of the Harry Potter series.

Anonymous Jill March 18, 2016 4:27 PM  

Bob K Mando, thanks a lot. I had no idea what teabagging someone meant. Well, now I know. It gives new meaning to my mantra, a good day is a day when I learn something new.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 4:27 PM  

Hawai'i upsets Cal. Just the way Zero predicted. He didn't?

Anonymous Cloudswrest March 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

Given their reputation, you'd probably have a pretty good legal case against the organisers for defamation of character.

Interesting legal theory. I wouldn't put it past SJWs to, in the future, try to make endorsement of a "respectable person" by a "hater" a hate crime.

Anonymous Jill March 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

YIH, I was only talking about the Speakeasy cover, as it has a 1920s art nouveau feel.

Blogger Jon M March 18, 2016 4:33 PM  

To SJW's you can always be convicted on the grounds of guilt by association. If bad people like you, you must be a bad person. See Trump's refusal to virtue signal with respect to Duke for a classic example. If the Supreme Dark Lord likes your work, that requires a long period of deep reflection and self flagellation to expunge youself of the taint of crimethink lest your friends treat you as shabbily as you treat the rest of the world.

That lifestyle just sounds utterly exhausting.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 18, 2016 4:35 PM  

Wait a minute, she didn't even make our list.

Damn it.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 4:36 PM  

Wow Jill, so you missed the whole Tea Party-Teabagger brouhaha? Even Zero got in on the action.

Anonymous Jill March 18, 2016 4:49 PM  

Dave, I'm a workaholic. I miss a lot of brouhahas.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 5:30 PM  

47. Jill March 18, 2016 4:27 PM
Bob K Mando, thanks a lot.



*tips fedora*

you're welcome, milady.

it's actually important information that you need to know. this is what the news media were doing when the Tea Party first hit the scene; refering to them sneeringly as "teabaggers".

that's how unbiased the news is, they've been doing this as a joke to us for practically all of Obama's tenure.

Blogger Timothy MEEHAN March 18, 2016 6:20 PM  

It's embarrassing to think I was once like that.

Blogger Timothy MEEHAN March 18, 2016 6:22 PM  

@1 Sullivan or Hustler? Because this case ain't getting past first instance.

Anonymous GreyS March 18, 2016 6:46 PM  

"Puppies are so inconsequential that we barely acknowledge they exist let alone worry about them."

or

"Puppies are so powerful and their influence is so widespread that inclusion of a name on the list is an actionable offense."

Anonymous GreyS March 18, 2016 6:58 PM  

Poor Damien still a "writer" "writing", huh?

Anonymous Steve March 18, 2016 7:01 PM  

Damien Walter's "novel" is called FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LOVE.

Anonymous BGKB March 18, 2016 7:06 PM  

If love is all that matters, why are they always so damn angry??

Because they have to pay for love.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion March 18, 2016 7:47 PM  

Damien might actually have a point.

Considering the utter excrement that has won Hugos lately, I can see a nomination as being an insult.

There might also be a claim for 'mental suffering' when forced to defend publicly, why any of her work would be more award-worthy than Space Raptor Butt Invasion.

Blogger James Dixon March 18, 2016 8:38 PM  

> Speaking of names, guess who's now on the ''The Washington Redskins need to change their name!'' bandwagon?
(((Bernie Sanders))).

As Rush has said, just change the official logo to a redskin potato. Problem solved.

Blogger The Other Robot March 18, 2016 10:59 PM  

I was checking out Space Raptor Butt Invasion and Amazon advertised the following:

The Haunted Vagina

I can't even!

Blogger The Other Robot March 18, 2016 11:03 PM  

Buz reads "Space Raptor Butt Invasion"

Blogger Harsh March 18, 2016 11:06 PM  

Would someone get poor Catherynne a fainting couch before she succumbs to the vapors...

Blogger Feather Blade March 18, 2016 11:54 PM  

@47 True, and they also scream ''young readers''.

To be fair, if you want a good story without necrophilia or were-bestiality thrown in, middle grade is usually your best bet.

Blogger Baloo March 20, 2016 4:41 PM  

FWIW, I was pleased to see my favorite blog in the genre listed,
http://nukemars.com
If anybody doesn't know about it, I urge them to take a look.

Blogger George Phillies March 22, 2016 10:50 PM  

There are alternatives to the Hugo.

Neffys
National Fantasy Fan Federation Speculative Fiction Awards
N3F.org

The Neffy Award (National Fantasy Fan Federation Speculative Fiction Award) was first given in 1949 to Ray Bradbury. Since then it has occasionally been given (including continuously since 2005) for outstanding contributions to the Science Fiction field.

The 2015 Neffy Award for
Best Editor
was won by
Toni Weisskopf, Baen Books.

The ballot resolution read: Mindful that editors are judged on their extended record, not a single work in a single year, and that other editors may in future years be honored for their work in the same time period, the award for 2015 for Best Editor is to Toni Weisskopf, Baen Books

It is noteworthy that Toni Weisskopf is a former Neffer.

The 2015 Neffy Award, a
Heroic Commendation,
Was Won by
All of Hugo Fandom
for reviving the most ancient and honorable of all fannish customs, the all-hobby fan feud.

The ballot resolution read: To all of Hugo Fandom, for they are all fen: A Heroic Commendation for reviving the most ancient and honorable of all fannish customs, the all-hobby fan feud.

2016 Nominations are currently open to N3F voting members.

The Neffie categories for this year are listed below. All N3F members are invited to nominate. Categories that do not receive at least two nominations will be dropped.
"Paper" publication is a book from a traditional publishing house. "Electronic" publishing is modern self-publishing via SmashWords, Amazon Kindle, etc. but includes “Print on Demand”, e.g., Third Millennium. The length divisions for written works are based on the published recommendations of Eric Flint on his blog. Series novels must have had at least one novel published in 2015.

Best Paper Novel (> 100,000 words)
Best Paper Short Work (< 100,000 words)
Best Electronic Novel (>100,000 words)
Best Electronic Short Work (< 100,000 words)
Best Paper Series Novel (> 3 volumes)
Best Electronic Series Novel (> 3 Volumes)
Best Fan Author
Best Fan Artist
Best Fan Editor
Best Fanzine
Best Fan Web Site
Fan of the year
Best Pro Author
Best Pro Artist
Best Pro Editor
Best Live Film
Best Animated Film
Best Video (includes TV series)
Best Comic Series
Best Comic Single Issue
Best Paper Game
Best Electronic Game
Heroic Achievement





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