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Monday, March 14, 2016

The Littlest Chickenhawk melts down

Ben Shapiro white-knights himself into unemployment:
Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields and editor-at-large Ben Shapiro are resigning from the company over the site’s handling of Donald Trump’s campaign manager’s alleged assault on Fields, BuzzFeed News has learned.

Fields and Shapiro informed Breitbart News chairman Steve Bannon of their decision Sunday night.

“Today I informed the management at Breitbart News of my immediate resignation,” Fields said in a statement sent to BuzzFeed News. “I do not believe Breitbart News has adequately stood by me during the events of the past week and because of that I believe it is now best for us to part ways.”

In his own statement, Shapiro said the episode was emblematic of how he believes the site’s management had sold out the legacy of its founder and namesake, the late Andrew Breitbart.

“Andrew’s life mission has been betrayed,” Shapiro wrote. “Indeed, Breitbart News, under the chairmanship of Steve Bannon, has put a stake through the heart of Andrew’s legacy. In my opinion, Steve Bannon is a bully, and has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda, to the extent that he abandoned and undercut his own reporter, Breitbart News’ Michelle Fields, in order to protect Trump’s bully campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, who allegedly assaulted Michelle.”
I look forward to the inevitable charges that Breitbart is not only the personal Pravda of the God-Emperor Trump, but anti-semitic, mysogynistic, and mean.

And yes, I did laugh when I heard about it. I told you all years ago that Shapiro isn't particularly intelligent. People really need to learn to stop confusing verbal facility with intelligence. The former is a subset of the latter, not a synonym. Some of the smartest people I've known can barely form a coherent sentence in a reasonable period of time, because, I suspect, they struggle to translate their stream of consciousness into something their intellectual inferiors will be able to follow.

UPDATE: This brutal dismissal of Shapiro by William Bigelow at Breitbart borders on sadism, but it is more than a little amusing. Breitbart certainly doesn't appear to be shedding any tears.

Ben Shapiro Betrays Loyal Breitbart Readers in Pursuit of Fox News Contributorship.

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164 Comments:

Blogger SteelPalm March 14, 2016 6:08 AM  

Yeah, I can't defend this. Ben Shapiro has totally lost the plot.

His initial reaction was hilariously overblown to an incident that, even if true, was minor and significant. And this? He has gone insane. I have no clue what he is trying to do.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2016 6:12 AM  

NBC's piece on this this morning is laughable, there is even a picture of the bruise. Honestly if this is what the geniuses at Sea Island have come up with the American Empire is short lived.

Anonymous blackbolt2099 March 14, 2016 6:15 AM  

"Unemployment" is probably overstating it a bit, as I think his position at Breitbart was largely ceremonial at this point. He's been editor-in-chief and author of what seems like 80 articles a day at Daily Wire for a while now.

I know the "white-knighting" angle seems like an easy one, but I wonder how much that really plays into it. His desire to stick a knife in the Trump campaign was so great at this point, I think he would have taken any opportunity that presented itself, and the "damsel in distress" narrative just made it easier to sell. He went all-in on it way too soon, and there was no going back.

Blogger SteelPalm March 14, 2016 6:15 AM  

@1 Meant to write insignificant, not "significant".

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2016 March 14, 2016 6:18 AM  

I've sat chatting to a land mines clearance expert who did a secondment tour for the UN in Mozambique. He describes village kids with multiple limb amputations, blind or with half their face missing, who can't be reached because it's unsafe to get to them. People allowed to bleed to death rather than risk other loss of life.

I think Michelle is describing the same thing. Except it's not.

Blogger Marc DuQuesne March 14, 2016 6:21 AM  

I had some sympathy for the guy from the time he got AMOGed by a tranny, but when he doubled down after the conclusive video surfaced, it was clear he was just another cuckservative. Breitbart needs to put Milo in charge of HR so he can clear out the entryists.

Blogger SteelPalm March 14, 2016 6:26 AM  

@6 Problem is, Shapiro isn't an entryist. He isn't even a cuckservative. He has legitimately done a lot of good things for the right wing in the past, alt right wing included.

Shapiro is just being astoundingly stupid and counterproductive here, firing at his own side. Like a moderate. Even on a tactical level, this is suicidal and indefensible.

Blogger FALPhil March 14, 2016 6:29 AM  

No big loss on either account, but it is obvious that the talking points memo has been distributed.

CNN is looking like a bunch of idiots this morning, talking about Trump inciting violence when the only people inciting violence is the anti-Trump crowd. Of course, the Oprah-watching crowd will lap it up.

Blogger tz March 14, 2016 6:32 AM  

Maybe National Review has room for him before it collapses.
The latest video shows the incident is a hoax - but Michelle called the police. SJWsADD.

Blogger Gaiseric March 14, 2016 6:38 AM  

I love how he uses the word bully three times in a one paragraph post. The tell of a perpetually victimized beta male loser.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2016 6:39 AM  

Could be Ben is just trolling the usual anti-semetic types who will make him out to be a genius amongst retards. It's a proven tactic it works, no need to reinvent the wheel.

But will Ben now go full Tim Wise on us?

Anonymous I'll be here all the week. Try the veal. March 14, 2016 6:46 AM  

“Andrew’s life mission has been betrayed,” Shapiro wrote. “Indeed, Breitbart News, under the chairmanship of Steve Bannon, has put a stake through the heart of Andrew’s legacy.

Kinda like how the CIA put a heart attack gun through his...ah...too soon?

...I'll see myself out...

Anonymous DT March 14, 2016 6:54 AM  

So a video comes out that shows she was not assaulted and rather than retract Ben Shapiro...quits his job???

I just lost so much respect for him.

Blogger J March 14, 2016 7:00 AM  

Oh dear. He's probably in some stage of getting into Fields' pants, or at least has some major crush on the girl. Actions make little sense otherwise.

Blogger Alexander Thompson March 14, 2016 7:01 AM  

With all due respect, Andrew Breitbart would have reveled in the Trumpening. What has Trump done that Mr Breitbart wouldn't approve? Challenging the media was Breitbart's favorite pastime.

Blogger Escoffier March 14, 2016 7:01 AM  


SteelPalmMarch 14, 2016 6:26 AM
@6 Problem is, Shapiro isn't an entryist. He isn't even a cuckservative. He has legitimately done a lot of good things for the right wing in the past, alt right wing included.

Shapiro is just being astoundingly stupid and counterproductive here, firing at his own side. Like a moderate. Even on a tactical level, this is suicidal and indefensible.


And now he's telling you exactly who he is and had always been. Will you listen?

Blogger Escoffier March 14, 2016 7:03 AM  

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Anonymous Steve March 14, 2016 7:10 AM  

Shapiro's OK on the small stuff. His Twitter trolling of SJWs is amusing. I liked his work on campus lefties.

But on the big issues, the problem is he's a neocon. And, for some reason, the neocons have decided that Trump is Hitlevoldemort.

I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because Trump expresses scepticism about foreign wars. Maybe it's because he doesn't pledge fealty to AIPAC or take money from guys like Haim Saban.

Whatever the reason, they've whipped themselves into a frenzy of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Michelle Fields is a serial drama queen, the sort of toxic employee who has HR on speed dial. White knighting for mentally hilarious women never ends well.

Anonymous old man in a villa March 14, 2016 7:16 AM  

Isn't that precious, honor among thieves.

Anonymous One Man's Chorus March 14, 2016 7:25 AM  

Something doesn't add up. Why would Shapiro care whether Fields got tugged by Lewandowski? At worst, Lewandowski is guilty for misdemeanor battery for "touching" her. She was not seriously injured.

Either he is having an affair with Fields or he is too prideful to admit that he was wrong.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2016 March 14, 2016 7:26 AM  

Talking heart attack guns, stage assailants, and SeaIsland private jet soirees tomorrow is the Ides of March and someone has calculated exactly 153 pyramid power days to the T'sha B'AV. Perhaps he should stay home.

If this is an Andrew Breitbart memorial page, maybe Donald should just ride the wave into town from here on in. The SeaIsland crowd seem seriously bad. Ferguson bussed in bad.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 14, 2016 7:34 AM  

Somewhat off topic. Go to Jimstone dot is (is=icelandic server IIRC) the dude who attacked Trump had some sort of sharp object, cut up a SS agent's hand.

Yes, they want Trump dead, contrary to Henry Makow, he isn't controlled opposition, or if he was, it was at a much lower level and he turned his back on it. My prayers to Trump and his family. I think this game is now ramping up big time.

Blogger VD March 14, 2016 7:40 AM  

And now he's telling you exactly who he is and had always been. Will you listen?

Exactly. I'm not down on people who are nominally on the right for no reason. The mere fact that someone is attacking your enemy does not mean he is on your side. He may well have a very different agenda. And he's only an ally if he refrains from attacking you and your allies.

Either he is having an affair with Fields or he is too prideful to admit that he was wrong.

No, he's petulantly overreacting because he has discovered he is less important at Breitbart than he thought he was.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 14, 2016 7:43 AM  

@20 One Man's Chorus:

Something doesn't add up. Why would Shapiro care whether Fields got tugged by Lewandowski?

Because he hates Trump and was looking for any excuse to take him down. And a lot of people suspect White Knighting.

Otherwise, one would expect a slight bit of hesitation at taking the word of a Washington Post reporter that it was a Trump staffer instead of the more likely, after looking at videos and pictures, the Secret Service guy who was actually close to Fields.

And I'll note that many in the MSM have what we think is better video in the can of what happened and haven't published it.

Blogger Gaiseric March 14, 2016 7:48 AM  

Steve wrote:But on the big issues, the problem is he's a neocon. And, for some reason, the neocons have decided that Trump is Hitlevoldemort.

I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because Trump expresses scepticism about foreign wars. Maybe it's because he doesn't pledge fealty to AIPAC or take money from guys like Haim Saban.

I suspect because many of them—Shapiro, Ericson, Beck, Matt Walsh, etc.—it's as simple as the fact that they're gammas. Not only that, but Gammas who've managed to make their Secret King fantasy come true, after a manner of speaking. And so Trump shows up, who's the biggest AMOG you'll ever meet, and he threatens to not take them seriously, to not take their advice, and to basically make them feel like insecure little High School losers again, who aren't nearly as important as they've built themselves up to be.

Anonymous Ain March 14, 2016 7:53 AM  

Sometimes you need to purge SJWs. But sometimes they fly into the flame all on their own.

Anonymous Diznave March 14, 2016 7:55 AM  

Great story on this at Breitbart here The link URL indicates 'futures market' but the headline is "Ben Shapiro Betrays Loyal Breitbart Readers in Pursuit of Fox News Contributorship"

Anonymous 5954 March 14, 2016 8:01 AM  

I admit to sending a couple of protest e-mails to Breitbart after seeing the videos and watching the shameful manner in which Breitbart reporter Howard Cowley was fired for essentially saying "Whoa, hold on, this doesn't make sense, let's wait for clearer evidence." And more than a few other people probably did as well. Whether or not that mattered, who knows, but I have to say this meltdown pleases me. Greatly.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 8:07 AM  

" they struggle to translate their stream of consciousness into something their intellectual inferiors will be able to follow"

Wasn't it a 2SD delta that represents as large a communication issue as a language barrior?

I tend to think that's a broad rule of thumb.. but I definately understand the effects.

Blogger lowercaseb March 14, 2016 8:07 AM  

Oh this was worth getting up early for!

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis March 14, 2016 8:09 AM  

This is the best election EVER! All I ever asked for was to be entertained. Mr. Trump has delivered this and more, with the added bonus of watching the moderate weasels commit seppuku.

Anonymous First Order March 14, 2016 8:16 AM  

I look forward to the inevitable charges that Breitbart is not only the personal Pravda of the God-Emperor Trump, but anti-semitic, mysogynistic, and mean.


Crazy, crying, Glenn Glenn Beck, has already called Bannon, Joseph Goebbels.

The resignation of Shapiro should be known as, Crystal Knight.

Blogger dienw March 14, 2016 8:16 AM  

O.T. with apologies. Seems Lame Cherry is reinforcing your contempt for Matt Walsh, but describing him - with evidence: see picture - as a tattooed fake Christian hired by Glenn Beck.

Anonymous Crude March 14, 2016 8:31 AM  

On the one hand, I wish Ben Shapiro could be on the same side as Trump. What he did with his recent university speech was fantastic, and the sort of thing we need more of. Unfortunate, but that's life.

On the other hand, that Breitbart response really is a fantastic read.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 14, 2016 8:35 AM  

@ FALPhil All people ascribe to their own version of reality. What we're watching is a widening & deepening chasm between two dominant views, and no facts are large enough to form a bridge.

Only missiles can span the gulf, rhetorical today, physical soon.

Anonymous Real Human Being March 14, 2016 8:45 AM  

Who could ever take a grown man complaining about being bullied seriously?

Blogger Melampus the Seer March 14, 2016 8:45 AM  

William Bigelow Article gives a 404 error. Link is broken or they took the article down.

Blogger Gaiseric March 14, 2016 8:51 AM  

Looks like it came down. You can still find a link to it with the search function, but when you click on it, it's gone.

Anonymous jSinSaTx March 14, 2016 8:57 AM  

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nsEFWOjEqOAJ:www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/futures-markets-wrap-dow-continues-uncertain-climb/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That got me to it.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 14, 2016 9:01 AM  

One of the most important effects of Trump's campaign is to rip the Suit-and-Tie PR mask off the Establishment's many-headed hydra. It's quite valuable to know on whom you can safely turn your back.

In this regard Trump is to a degree like Odysseus, vexing his adversaries with both guile and power.

Campaign 2016 is shaping up to be as interesting as an Epic Poem.

Blogger Ron March 14, 2016 9:09 AM  

@jsinsatx

Wow, thanks for that. The picture of the baby snake emrging from its shell was both cute and scary at the same time.

As for Mr Shapiro, Ive been really betrayed in the past, ans so I appreciate a situation where I can learn the full extent of someones character before I end up relying on him.

Anonymous Thersites March 14, 2016 9:10 AM  

Here the Google cache of the Breitbart article that was taken down:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nsEFWOjEqOAJ:www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/futures-markets-wrap-dow-continues-uncertain-climb/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera

Anonymous Andrew E. March 14, 2016 9:11 AM  

Still waiting for Scott and the other Cruzers to show here and explain to us all that Cruz didn't actually side with the Communist left against the First Amendment following Chicago.

Trump is outing the traitors and the squishes left and right.

Anonymous 5954 March 14, 2016 9:18 AM  

Here's another archive link, just in case:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160314104325/http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/futures-markets-wrap-dow-continues-uncertain-climb/

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 14, 2016 9:18 AM  

Between the incorrect "Futures Market..." URL and the style and tone of the article it didn't "smell" entirely legitimate, but it did get top billing on the front page for at least several hours. I suspect there's some score settling going on while the adults try to steer the Breitbart.com back to respectability.

Blogger lowercaseb March 14, 2016 9:21 AM  

I'm still laughing of that final toss-away sentence.

"Alleged Fox News contributor Michelle Fields also resigned."

I can understand why they took it down but for those who haven't seen it, it's worth clicking on the google cache above while it remains. This was a journalistic curb stomping of epic proportions.

Blogger Student in Blue March 14, 2016 9:33 AM  

Speaking of low information voters... my co-worker is nominally a Republican who would generally agree with what Trump says, but Keeps. Listening. To. The. Media.

It's like ffs guy, you're showing me a video from The Young Turks as some sort of refutation, and then run away from any polite disagreement. I've already chatted amicably with a Sanders voter and a Cruz voter, but oh no this guy with a wide gamma streak just can't handle disagreement.

If there's anyone who's a low info voter, it's the shmucks who listen blindly to the talking heads and they definitely ain't for Trump.

Blogger Escoffier March 14, 2016 9:36 AM  

I've been wondering if a part of the unbridled rage against Trump is for the simple expedient that he is breaking the first rule of so-called conservatism: Lose with dignity

It's been painful to watch Ace lose his fricken mind on this subject and his animus toward Trump is truly something to behold. Is the "Conservative" hatred toward Trump based on nothing more than he seems to effortlessly tear through the gauzy shackles the Left had heaped on the right? That he casually dismisses the sacred cows both left and right?

I'm honestly not in love with the guy but like Scott Adams I have watched his campaign with awe. One of the big knocks on him from the right is that he is the second coming of Obama but where Obama was the end of an arc Trump is the beginning of a new curve. Which has a trajectory I certainly cannot predict.

I imagine Nate can but I'm not in his league!

Blogger Shimshon March 14, 2016 9:38 AM  

If you listen carefully you can hear it, just above a whisper...

The train is fine.

OpenID denektenorsk March 14, 2016 9:39 AM  

I tired of Shapiro's hysterics pretty quickly (as a relatively new follower I knew nothing of the SDL's long running distaste for him until recently).

He handled the Trap (The T in LGBTQ) Zhur well enough but his hysterics over Trump were inane. He constantly said Trump had no platform and he was a meanie, just aweful, mean bully.

Trump has plenty of ideas and a platform - however distasteful Shapiro may find them. For example The Donald has ideas on comprehensive income tax reform posted last June. I see no one mentioning them. That's why he's become so bombastic IMO - to get attention you have to grab it.

Boring positions on policy reform (however desperately required) do not invoke an emotional response. Most people vote based on emotion, not policy. For example, witness the ABC campaign in Canada (Anything But Conservative) because Harper is a mean poopie head. Ask them anything about the NDP or Liberal platform and they give you a blank stare.

I also know people who vote based upon the personal appearance of the candidates. These same people are supposedly my "peers".

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 9:42 AM  

I can't tell if Bigelow's piece is cruelty artistry or Gallagher verses a cantaloupe.

Blogger Student in Blue March 14, 2016 9:45 AM  

These kinds of reactions (Shapiro included) may just simply be Gamma tendencies spilling out.

There's certainly a personal element wrapped up in a lot of it.

Blogger Escoffier March 14, 2016 9:47 AM  

denektenorsk wrote:
I also know people who vote based upon the personal appearance of the candidates. These same people are supposedly my "peers".


Just once I'd like to hear a man say "I'm so voting for her she has a great rack!"

Anonymous rubberducky March 14, 2016 9:56 AM  

He's using the Fields thing as an excuse. That's pathetic BTW, but he is. This has been a long time coming. He's a Cruzbot, hard. Very out of place at Breitbart, the readership has been hating on him for a while. Pathetic and dishonest to use the Fields thing like this. Better and more honest to have just said we have a parting of ways.

Blogger Derek Kite March 14, 2016 10:02 AM  

I heard Shapiro on a podcast a few years ago and studiously ignored him since. He was unhinged then, and obviously hasn't changed.

Breitbart was having the time of his life poking at whatever needed poking. So is Trump by the way. I suspect he is more surprised by all this than anyone else. Shapiro came across as a humorless and very shallow sort looking for a place to be important.

Sometimes you just aren't.

Anonymous VFM#666 March 14, 2016 10:14 AM  

So you're absolutely sure you're not just jealous of Ben because he, you know, is more famous and popular than you are? He gets all kinds of speaking engagements, talk shows, tv appearances while you're essentially vanity publishing your stuff?

Blogger Josh March 14, 2016 10:15 AM  

Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that a guy named Pollack is running breitbart?

Blogger Josh March 14, 2016 10:18 AM  

In a statement, Breitbart News Editor-at-Large and In-House Counsel Joel B. Pollak said the article was written in jest.
"The article was written by me as part of an effort to make light of a significant company event, and was published as a result of a misunderstanding without going through the normal editorial channels," Pollak said. "I apologize to Michelle Fields, my friend Ben Shapiro, and to everyone concerned."

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 March 14, 2016 10:20 AM  

On the one hand if they had waited to be fired they would have gotten severance. On the other, if they quit on principle they can go find jobs at sympathetic news organization.

Ben is smart enough to know that he is going to end up like Mary Mapes/Dan Rather if he doesn't exit on his own. I am sure his natural home at the NRO will be a better fit for him anyway. Hopefully Breitbart can put that hire behind them.

Will Best

Blogger tz March 14, 2016 10:31 AM  

@29 2SD or roughly 20-30 IQ points.

A secondary problem is a stream of whiskey tends to interfere in two ways. The number of syllables and obscure references increases in proportion and at some point the obscured becomes slurred.

Blogger Lobo Util March 14, 2016 10:33 AM  

In the anti-Trump lynch mob there has already been a successful murder of a black Trump supporter. Of course potential black on black violence against a Trump supporter is not news. http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/breaking-black-trump-supporter-shot-and-killed-by-chicago-protesters/

Blogger Elocutioner March 14, 2016 10:34 AM  

The Bigelow response article was even better than you thought.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/03/breitbart-mocking-ben-shapiro-220712

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/709373884596822017

This slap fight is amusing. So Littlest White(ish) Knight calls for racists to be doxed then claims that he was doxed. Because they linked to his CA Bar profile. Which can easily be found by anyone.

https://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/site.aspx?q=benjamin+aaron+shapiro&go_search.x=0&go_search.y=0

The meltdowns this year are getting awesome. The field is being cleared of cucks.

Blogger Elocutioner March 14, 2016 10:36 AM  

@59 Will Best - He's already the face of the Daily Wire, funded by another deep pockets sugar daddy. Could explain why he went completely off the rails recently.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 10:36 AM  

"A secondary problem is a stream of whiskey tends to interfere in two ways. The number of syllables and obscure references increases in proportion and at some point the obscured becomes slurred."

indeed sir.

Blogger praetorian March 14, 2016 10:37 AM  

I imagine Nate can but I'm not in his league!

At this point Nate and Josh are reacting emotionally, not intellectually. Trump has objectively done more to advance the causes of the alt/old right than any presidential candidate in the modern era, including the Pauls. But he's a Yank, so muh dixie.

Blogger The Other Robot March 14, 2016 10:40 AM  

This is likely what they don't want known:

$2T Public Sector Pension Shortfall

Blogger VD March 14, 2016 10:41 AM  

So you're absolutely sure you're not just jealous of Ben because he, you know, is more famous and popular than you are? He gets all kinds of speaking engagements, talk shows, tv appearances while you're essentially vanity publishing your stuff?

I thought I was jealous of John Scalzi? Did you not realize that I have repeatedly turned down speaking engagements, talk shows, and TV appearances for over a decade?

I'm a game designer, I'm not a media whore.

Blogger VD March 14, 2016 10:42 AM  

"I apologize to Michelle Fields, my friend Ben Shapiro, and to everyone concerned."

Someone didn't read SJWAL.

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 March 14, 2016 10:43 AM  

He actually doxxed himself by admitting that was his home address rather than his law office. Wait he doesn't have a law office because he doesn't practice law, he just likes to claim he is a lawyer. Price of vanity is apparently not enough to buy a PO Box.

Anonymous WinstonWebb March 14, 2016 10:44 AM  

praetorianMarch 14, 2016 10:37 AM
I imagine Nate can but I'm not in his league!

At this point Nate and Josh are reacting emotionally, not intellectually. Trump has objectively done more to advance the causes of the alt/old right than any presidential candidate in the modern era, including the Pauls. But he's a Yank, so muh dixie.


Nate and Josh are 2 of my top 5 favorite posters on this board.
And I'm a Texan.
But, damnation, THAT was funny!

Blogger dc.sunsets March 14, 2016 10:47 AM  

Trump is The Right (albeit a relatively small twist in that direction.) Cthulhu has only turned left for 600 years.

Why is anyone surprised at the level of apoplexy? Why is anyone surprised that there is a massive, untapped reservoir of Rightist energy bottled up and ready to burst?

This is but the snowflake at the beginning of the blizzard, which will lead to the avalanche.

Anonymous Philalethes March 14, 2016 10:48 AM  

@27 et al: I wondered why the OP had a link to a page at archive.org for something published today (unusual, is my impression); so I went to it, copied the url at the head, and tried that, finding that the "futures-markets-wrap-dow-continues-uncertain-climb" address now shows an article headed "Statement from Breitbart News Editor-at-Large and In-House Counsel Joel B. Pollak". The text can be seen @58 above.

Looks like Breitbart is in some turmoil over how to handle this – as they have been all along. Hope they get it straightened out; their all-too-public confusion is not doing their credibility any good at all. Maybe they should hire Mike Cernovich, who seems to have done the real due diligence here. Or at least pay him a finder's fee.

Blogger Josh March 14, 2016 10:48 AM  

Nate and Josh are 2 of my top 5 favorite posters on this board.

#winning

Blogger totenhenchen March 14, 2016 10:50 AM  

As I recall, Andrew Breitbart's infamous mantra regarding the Left was "Fuck you! WAR!"

A lot of people who claim to be concerned about his legacy seem to have forgotten that.

Blogger tz March 14, 2016 10:52 AM  

Chickenhawk + White Knight = Sir Robin who bravely ran away, away.

Anonymous #NeverTrump March 14, 2016 10:59 AM  

"Nate and Josh are 2 of my top 5 favorite posters on this board."

Agreed. And all of us will have a good laugh when Trump is destroyed and Vox Day is humiliated again.

Anonymous MendoScot March 14, 2016 11:02 AM  

a broad rule of thumb..

I definately see what you did there..

Anonymous The other robot March 14, 2016 11:03 AM  

I'm a game designer, I'm not a media whore.

Does your contract for that book on Media Whores allow you to publish with someone else?

Anonymous BGKB March 14, 2016 11:03 AM  

Breitbart news editor-in-chief Alex Marlow was stupefied: “My friend Ben Shapiro broke the news on a website that asks its staff to drink their own urine?

I thought only Bear Gylls was into that.

Breitbart needs to put Milo in charge of HR so he can clear out the entryists.

Bad idea, he will bring his casting couch.

Kinda like how the CIA put a heart attack gun through his...ah...too soon?

No there was a poem that combined composting and the Wise Latrina right after Scalia found dead with pillow over his head.

He handled the Trap (The T in LGBTQ) Zhur A gorilla in a dress is not a trap.

Blogger Young Heaving Shipping Containers of Liberty March 14, 2016 11:03 AM  

Nate wrote:Wasn't it a 2SD delta that represents as large a communication issue as a language barrior?

Yes, but it's not only that. It's initially the problem of distilling complicated ideas that are conceived non-verbally into a linear sequence of words. Having accomplished that, then you have to figure out what manner of discourse your interlocutor can understand.

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz March 14, 2016 11:04 AM  

67. VD March 14, 2016 10:41 AM

I'm a game designer, I'm not a media whore.


Speak of, is there any chance of publishing the book you were writing?

Anonymous 5954 March 14, 2016 11:09 AM  

lol - the Breitbart page "Statement from Breitbart News Editor-at-Large and In-House Counsel Joel B. Pollak" apologizing for the article still shows the title "Ben Shapiro Betrays Loyal Readers, Listicles - Breitbart" at the top of the browser.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 11:10 AM  

"At this point Nate and Josh are reacting emotionally, not intellectually. "

yes... because pointing out that Trump is sucking up to activist globalists is totally an emotional argument.

Anonymous BGKB March 14, 2016 11:12 AM  

I'm not a media whore.Does your contract for that book on Media Whores allow you to publish with someone else?

He should finish up his throne of bone series first, cough GRRM cough.

Anonymous WinstonWebb March 14, 2016 11:14 AM  

He should finish up his throne of bone series first, cough GRRM cough.

A Throne of Boners?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2016 11:17 AM  

Pointing out that one of Trump’s advisors is Richard Haass is the kind of thing that is dismissed in the height of the zeitgeist of a popular movement but in hindsight will explain everything.

Blogger Young Heaving Shipping Containers of Liberty March 14, 2016 11:17 AM  

Jerome Horowitz wrote:Speak of, is there any chance of publishing the book you were writing?

He has previously replied strongly in the negative.

Blogger Scott6584 March 14, 2016 11:18 AM  

The big-Media are all wrong about Trump. He's NOT Hitler. Not even close.

Trump is Chamberlain. He's willing to make a deal with anyone. Trump will bring "peace in our time."

God forfend.

Blogger Dexter March 14, 2016 11:20 AM  

Trump is Chamberlain. He's willing to make a deal with anyone. Trump will bring "peace in our time."

Nah. That's what the cucks have been doing for 30 years. Appease, appease, appease. And they never figure out this just makes the Left want more, more, more.

Blogger totenhenchen March 14, 2016 11:26 AM  

I've been wondering if a part of the unbridled rage against Trump is for the simple expedient that he is breaking the first rule of so-called conservatism: Lose with dignity.

When there's a war going on always count on conservatives to pontificate on how to comport oneself while engaged in fisticuffs.

Anonymous Clay March 14, 2016 11:26 AM  

I can remember that movie, that Shapiro, (who I am grossly reminded of), is the guy who had his panties pulled over his head.

But, my memory of who that guy really was, confounds me at the moment.

Help, if you might.

Blogger totenhenchen March 14, 2016 11:27 AM  

I've been wondering if a part of the unbridled rage against Trump is for the simple expedient that he is breaking the first rule of so-called conservatism: Lose with dignity.

When there's a war going on always count on conservatives to pontificate on how to comport oneself while engaged in fisticuffs.

Blogger totenhenchen March 14, 2016 11:27 AM  

As I recall, Andrew Breitbart's infamous mantra regarding the Left was "Fuck you! WAR!"

A lot of people who claim to be concerned about his legacy seem to have forgotten that.

Blogger Gaiseric March 14, 2016 11:27 AM  

After literally watching the Republicans appease over and over again, including watching Ted Cruz do it just this weekend, we're supposed to believe that the only one who's shown any fight at the national level in decades is Neville Chamberlain?

He may disappoint, certainly, but there's NOTHING to suggest that Donald Trump is Neville Chamberlain right now. And calling him that with the field that he's in, is just bizarre.

Blogger Escoffier March 14, 2016 11:30 AM  

Nate wrote:"At this point Nate and Josh are reacting emotionally, not intellectually. "

yes... because pointing out that Trump is sucking up to activist globalists is totally an emotional argument.



No, continuing to point it out as though people are disagreeing with you seems a little aspie to me, I could be wrong.

Blogger Giraffe March 14, 2016 11:37 AM  

The hysterical reaction by antitrumpsters is embarrassing. Break out the smelling salts, Ben has fainted away.

Anonymous Full-Fledged Fiasco March 14, 2016 11:43 AM  

"Nate and Josh are 2 of my top 5 favorite posters on this board."

facepalm

Blogger Sam Lively March 14, 2016 11:49 AM  

Interesting that the high profile conservative pundits who aren't self-immolating over Trump are the Catholics (Buchanan of course but also Hannity and Ingraham) and the Northeastern WASPs (Coulter, Steyn). The Jews (Shapiro, Levin) and the Midwestern Evangelicals (Erickson, Walsh) have totally lost their minds.

As a Southwestern Evangelical, I am ashamed of my fellows. Linking arms with the nationalists is a win-win - we get the energy, enthusiasm, strength and crossover appeal we've always lacked in general elections plus we get leverage on the social issues that a lot of the nationalists are ambivalent about. It's the same kind of partnership that has worked so masterfully for the Democrats (goodies + affirmative action for the minority blocs in exchange for Leftist control of social issues).

Instead tools like Shapiro want to go with the lose-lose option. Machine gun the nationalists to take out the left's biggest enemy and lose all leverage over the issues conservatives hold dear.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 11:49 AM  

"No, continuing to point it out as though people are disagreeing with you seems a little aspie to me, I could be wrong."

wierd... I made the point last night... and its the first time I've made it. And to be honest I haven't been to that thread since.

So I have no idea if anyone is disagreeing or not. Though granted I assume they are... since generally speaking most trump people are simply incapable of accepting the fact that their God Emperor is anything but a perfect reflection of the american nationalist.

OpenID denektenorsk March 14, 2016 11:54 AM  

If anyone hasn't see it yet, here is a video clip of Fields being violently thrown to the ground by a jack booted thug:

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/13/michelle-fields-corey-lewandowski-trump-hoax/

Blogger Noah B March 14, 2016 11:55 AM  

Nate, there's some insane rhetoric flying around, but no one with an ounce of sense actually sees Trump as this flawless nationalist. They just know that he's mostly saying the right things for once, they see how much the establishment hates him and how much Trump hates them back, and they love it.

Anonymous WinstonWebb March 14, 2016 11:58 AM  

generally speaking most trump people are simply incapable of accepting the fact that their God Emperor is anything but a perfect reflection of the american nationalist.
I haven't seen that characterization of Trump given in even a *specific* instance, much less a *general* one.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 11:59 AM  

"Pointing out that one of Trump’s advisors is Richard Haass is the kind of thing that is dismissed in the height of the zeitgeist of a popular movement but in hindsight will explain everything. "

this.

and I know its a big downer for everyone that is hoping for a real change for once. never-the-less facts are facts.

Blogger exfarmkid March 14, 2016 11:59 AM  

If Richard Haass is an official advisor to Donald Trump, that is ..... disturbing. Nate, if you could pass on some useful links on this topic I would be most grateful.

Blogger Scott6584 March 14, 2016 12:00 PM  

Dexter wrote:Trump is Chamberlain. He's willing to make a deal with anyone. Trump will bring "peace in our time."

Nah. That's what the cucks have been doing for 30 years. Appease, appease, appease. And they never figure out this just makes the Left want more, more, more.


And Trump will be making deals with those self-same cucks just as soon as he takes office. But hey, don't believe me. Instead, let's check out what Bob Dole has to say:

Bob Dole, the former Kansas senator and 1996 Republican presidential nominee, has never been fond of Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. But in an interview Wednesday, Mr. Dole said that the party would suffer “cataclysmic” and “wholesale losses” if Mr. Cruz were the nominee, and that Donald J. Trump would fare better.

“I question his allegiance to the party,” Mr. Dole said of Mr. Cruz. “I don’t know how often you’ve heard him say the word ‘Republican’ — not very often.” Instead, Mr. Cruz uses the word “conservative,” Mr. Dole said, before offering up a different word for Mr. Cruz: “extremist.”

Dole added that while “nobody likes” Cruz, Trump could “probably work with Congress, because he’s, you know, he’s got the right personality and he’s kind of a deal-maker.”


Straight from the mouth of the Republican Establishment.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2016 12:00 PM  

"Nate, there's some insane rhetoric flying around, but no one with an ounce of sense actually sees Trump as this flawless nationalist."

obviously you've never read SigBouncer's comments.

Anonymous drnick March 14, 2016 12:02 PM  

I've always thought Ben Shapiro was a ridiculous clown who would lose a bar fight against a twelve-year old girl, so this is obviously great news for me. But guys, if you are also committed to total contempt of Ben Shapiro, you NEED to read this article for maximum lulz:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/03/breitbart-mocking-ben-shapiro-220712

Yes, I know it's Politico, but the sheer hilarity of finding out who Ben Shapiro's father is will make your day!

Anonymous kfg March 14, 2016 12:03 PM  

@96:

I am obligated to hold a soft spot for Nate, as after my delurking he was one of the first to respond to one of my comments and the very first to do so positively. And I'm a Yank.

Draw any conclusions you like about how that reflects on me. I'm a big boy. I can take it.

Blogger Noah B March 14, 2016 12:04 PM  

I find where Trump had a meeting with Richard Haass, but I don't find anything suggesting that Haass is actively advising Trump. The fact that they've had one or even a few infrequent meetings does not make Haass an "advisor."

Blogger Noah B March 14, 2016 12:05 PM  

obviously you've never read SigBouncer's comments.

Notice I qualified my statement with, "...no one with an ounce of sense..."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2016 12:06 PM  

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/03/donald-trump-held-briefing-with-richard-haass-head-of-council-on-foreign-relations/?_r=0

Anonymous Gen. Kong March 14, 2016 12:07 PM  

Does anyone remember the post from yesterday about the 'Trump causes violence' meme ginned up at the Sea-Island summit? The antics of Littlest Chickenhawk and SJW-bimbo were likely part of the plan and are already being used by Lügenpresse to futher lies according to above agenda of Soros, Zuckerberg, Google, Cruzman-Sachs, et al. As for absurd charge of his supporters worshipping of the 'God-Emperor' Trump, it would be preferable (even if actually true, which it's not) to worshipping the Golden Dindu who Cuckstianity worships.

Trump could still be Perot version 2016, but as someone above has already noted, it's been the most entertaining erection ever.

Anonymous kfg March 14, 2016 12:11 PM  

"Ben Shapiro was a ridiculous clown who would lose a bar fight against a twelve-year old girl . . ."

And in this corner, John Scalzi.

Blogger exfarmkid March 14, 2016 12:12 PM  

Link from Reuters, Trump likes and trusts Haass, Keane and Jacobs on foreign policy. That is an eclectic group, representing foggy bottom, neo-cons, and get-us-the-fuck-out-the-middle-east.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-advisers-idUSMTZSAPEC34JEYL7J

So, all viewpoints have a seat at the Trump table? Make of it what you will.

Blogger skiballa March 14, 2016 12:17 PM  

Scott6584, the main thing I take away from that is that Cruz isn't trustworthy. I guess we can ask though, what is he conserving?

The GOPe seems pretty divided over the issue of Trump, I still don't care what they have to say.

The only thing I'd ask Bob Dole is if I could borrow his pen, I know he keeps one handy.

Anonymous Crude March 14, 2016 12:19 PM  

I throw my support behind Trump because I think he is the best gamble, by far, among those running. Accent on 'gamble'. I know better than to expect that his victory would guarantee anything I care about. He's just the best option out there, and it so happens that he's also the most entertaining one.

Anonymous VD McCoy March 14, 2016 12:22 PM  

Dammit Jim, I'm a game designer, not a media whore.

Blogger Dexter March 14, 2016 12:23 PM  

Trump will be making deals with those self-same cucks just as soon as he takes office.

Maybe.

You make different kinds of deals if you want to win than you do if you are intentionally losing.

We already know the establicucks will make bad deals because they want to lose.

We have nothing to lose by backing Trump, who from all appearances, likes to win.

Anonymous drnick March 14, 2016 12:25 PM  

None of you read the Politico link? Understandable, but the reason it's so important is that William Bigelow is actually a pseudonym for DAN SHAPIRO, Ben's father.

That's some high quality lulz from Joel Pollak. No wonder he took the post down, though.

Blogger Noah B March 14, 2016 12:25 PM  

It does bother me that Trump said he likes and trust Haass, but at the same time, some amount of political gamesmanship is necessary to rise to the top.

Blogger praetorian March 14, 2016 12:25 PM  

He's just the best option out there, and it so happens that he's also the most entertaining one.

But did you know that the train is fine?

THE MASK IS OFF NOW, DUPE!

Anonymous Seek immediate medical attention if yourerection last longer than 4 hours March 14, 2016 12:29 PM  

Trump could still be Perot version 2016, but as someone above has already noted, it's been the most entertaining erection ever.

Trump could still be Perot version 2016, but as someone above has already noted, it's been the most entertaining erection ever.

Ummm...That's what she said?!

Anonymous Clay March 14, 2016 12:29 PM  

Uh, oh. You just got yourself into one of those "lesser evil" melees.

Good luck.

Anonymous drnick March 14, 2016 12:32 PM  

Jesus. David Shapiro, sorry. Of course, it made front page, so now everyone knows. Or will.

Blogger Nick S March 14, 2016 12:32 PM  

Pointing out that one of Trump’s advisors is Richard Haass is the kind of thing that is dismissed in the height of the zeitgeist of a popular movement but in hindsight will explain everything.

One would think it would explain everything in foresight, but since Trump is the total number one best of greaty-great-greatness, according to all the polls, you'll probably have to dumb it down for the masses.

Anonymous Clay March 14, 2016 12:33 PM  

Oh. Bunches of you boys bit the piranha.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2016 12:42 PM  

Nick S,

The Council on Foreign Relations, along with its sister organization the Trilateral Commission, were founded to destroy the United States. It is the prime mover towards the New World Order/World Government. The membership of the CFR and TC are a who's who of this country's leadership in government, media, military, academia, corporations, etc. You can find CFR/TC members in every presidential administration since FDR. And they are the majority of the cabinet level officials.

So what I mean by my comment is Trump was paid a visit. Or received a phone call at 0200.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 14, 2016 12:44 PM  

Yes, but it's not only that. It's initially the problem of distilling complicated ideas that are conceived non-verbally into a linear sequence of words. Having accomplished that, then you have to figure out what manner of discourse your interlocutor can understand.

Plus, often the idea itself is built on recognizing connections between three or four areas the average midwit has no idea are related at all, and quite likely doesn't want to believe are related. Weaving a compelling tapestry of rhetoric and dialectic is a tall order no matter how smart you are.

Anonymous FP March 14, 2016 12:52 PM  

Heh, from the politico article:

"The unusual piece, which can be read in full here, was even more shocking for Shapiro because it was posted under the pseudonym his father used while writing for the site — William Bigelow.

Shapiro's father, the writer David Shapiro, also resigned from Breitbart on Sunday evening.

According to the younger Shapiro, his father was hired under the pseudonym to protect his safety since the younger Shapiro said he received so many death threats for his writings."

Anonymous Andrew E. March 14, 2016 1:01 PM  

I see the Cruzers are here, doing their best to keep the focus on the other guy. Excuse me, but no explanation as to Cruz locking elbows all weekend with the Communist left against the First Amendment and private property rights? Coulter is right, Cruz outed himself as a traitor. Just own it.

If Trump does the same we'll discuss it then, but as of now, he's the only good guy left running.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 14, 2016 1:02 PM  

generally speaking most trump people are simply incapable of accepting the fact that their God Emperor is anything but a perfect reflection of the american nationalist.

But that's the whole point of Trump. It's not what he actually is or will actually do (you and I both know the American train is already off the tracks and it's just a matter of how big a gorge it plunges into - there are too many ratchets still in place that have to be broken). It's what people want him to be. What people will support.

Cruz may or may not be "Establishment." Trump may or may not be too. But Cruz looks establishment and Trump doesn't. Trying to pick who is going to have the best policies is dialectic, but we need rhetoric to break those ratchets.

Until we're willing to elect someone who campaigns like Trump, we'll never be able to elect someone who can do what we want.

Anonymous Bah March 14, 2016 1:05 PM  

If you can't explain yourself clearly and effectively to stupid people, then you're not as smart as you think you are.

Blogger Nick S March 14, 2016 1:15 PM  

So what I mean by my comment is Trump was paid a visit. Or received a phone call at 0200.

Yes. I remember when the very existence of the CFR and TC was relgated to the realm of conspiracy nut's over-active imaginations by the leftists and leveraged to create derisive epithets in order to dissuade potential truth seekers...then the internet let the cat out of the bag. Now it's portrayed as Cinton-esque "old news"; irrelevant and undeserving of anyone's attention.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2016 1:18 PM  

Convenient for the CFR/TC, eh?

Anonymous Clay March 14, 2016 1:20 PM  

Lord. We've had some dumb fucking Presidents for about 250 years.

Blogger Sam Lively March 14, 2016 1:23 PM  

Somewhat OT, but Carly Fiorina just came on a Florida station to stump for Cruz and the host (Joyce Kaufman) ambushed her with an in studio Ann Coulter.

Just exploded her talking point re Trump as evil oligarch who is just business as usual (never mind the all-out war being waged against him by the other oligarchs).

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2016 1:24 PM  

Coulter v Fiorina

Wow that's not a fair fight.

Blogger Sam Lively March 14, 2016 1:27 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Coulter v Fiorina

Wow that's not a fair fight.


It was not. Fiorina went about two rounds and then started complaining passive-aggressively about wanting to talk about Cruz, not debate Coulter about Trump.

Blogger tublecane March 14, 2016 1:36 PM  

@79-It shouldn't be that much of a problem. Even idiots are intellectually superior to the children and nevertheless can communicate things to them. These aren't necessarily complicated things, but they are to the children. Often, of course, there is no explanation and it just comes down to "because I said so." Smarty pantses have to learn how to say "because I said so."

Conversation is a lost art all around, even among the verbally gifted. People talking to smarty pantses have to learn how to listen. Both are skills one has to hone, talking and listening.

Blogger tublecane March 14, 2016 1:39 PM  

@79-It shouldn't be that much of a problem. Even idiots are intellectually superior to the children and nevertheless can communicate things to them. These aren't necessarily complicated things, but they are to the children. Often, of course, there is no explanation and it just comes down to "because I said so." Smarty pantses have to learn how to say "because I said so."

Conversation is a lost art all around, even among the verbally gifted. People talking to smarty pantses have to learn how to listen. Both are skills one has to hone, talking and listening.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 1:43 PM  

@28 5954

I admit to sending a couple of protest e-mails to Breitbart after seeing the videos and watching the shameful manner in which Breitbart reporter Howard Cowley was fired for essentially saying "Whoa, hold on, this doesn't make sense, let's wait for clearer evidence."
---

My question about that is, who suspended the guy?
Was it Shapiro?

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 1:53 PM  

@58 Josh

In a statement, Breitbart News Editor-at-Large and In-House Counsel Joel B. Pollak said the article was written in jest.
"The article was written by me as part of an effort to make light of a significant company event, and was published as a result of a misunderstanding without going through the normal editorial channels," Pollak said. "I apologize to Michelle Fields, my friend Ben Shapiro, and to everyone concerned."
---

That has the smell of an HR forced retraction all over it :P

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 1:59 PM  

@60 tz
A secondary problem is a stream of whiskey tends to interfere in two ways.
---

Ok, now you've triggered me into remembering an old Southern Rock tune

whisky talking

Blogger praetorian March 14, 2016 1:59 PM  

People talking to smarty pantses have to learn how to listen. Both are skills one has to hone, talking and listening.

100% agreement. I'm very much guilty of not listening (or reading) at times.

Anonymous kfg March 14, 2016 2:04 PM  

re whiskey talking:

Used to was the highest compliment you could pay a man around the New England fishing ports was:

He will do sober what he promised drunk.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 2:05 PM  

@84 WinstonWebb
A Throne of Boners?
---

A Throne of Trump HateBoners

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 2:13 PM  

@107 kfg

I am obligated to hold a soft spot for Nate, as after my delurking he was one of the first to respond to one of my comments and the very first to do so positively. And I'm a Yank.
---

WHAT?! Nate is being advised by a Yank??!

*Suspicions arise*

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 2:16 PM  

@108 Noah B

I find where Trump had a meeting with Richard Haass, but I don't find anything suggesting that Haass is actively advising Trump. The fact that they've had one or even a few infrequent meetings does not make Haass an "advisor."
---

That's my opinion of the moment, until more comes out about it.

The part I find hilarious is all this about Trump met with Haas, and yet Tundra Ted is married to a CFR Wife who help write the textbook for the North American Community or w/e the hell they call it now adays. And yet nobody talks about this much bigger connection to CFR.

I give this criticism 2 Vicentes out of 5.

Anonymous kfg March 14, 2016 2:25 PM  

"WHAT?! Nate is being advised by a Yank??!"

Now wait a minute, let's not all start going crazy here. I did not in any way influence his opinion, he merely seconded mine.

Green Mountain Boys and Southrons may have many differences of opinion, but we tend to come together on the subject of arming yourself, and why.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2016 2:27 PM  

Were-baby,

I've been screaming about this for years. I attended a Cruz campaign event when he was running for senator. It was days after he characterized the CFR as being a nest of traitors. I asked him why his wife was a member of the CFR and helped write "Towards a North American Community" with Robert Pastor. He shrugged his shoulders and said he couldn't control what his wife did.

Blogger praetorian March 14, 2016 2:31 PM  

I am obligated to hold a soft spot for Nate

We all are, and Josh too.

But they are being unreasonable about Trump. They are making the perfect the enemy of the kek, and assuming that, because we are not, that we are somehow expecting the God-Emperor to fix everything, or even anything.

Maybe it's a humor miscommunication thing, and they don't get Yankee LARP-casm.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 14, 2016 2:31 PM  

Oh I believe you. I meant that more for the Cruzers who think they've got a new knife to use.

I'll try and find it again, but sometime in the last couple weeks I saw a video that had all the candidates speaking at a CFR event, except for Fiorina, Carson, Trump and I believe Bernie wasn't in it either.

Blogger Josh March 14, 2016 2:43 PM  

But they are being unreasonable about Trump. They are making the perfect the enemy of the kek, and assuming that, because we are not, that we are somehow expecting the God-Emperor to fix everything, or even anything.

I can't speak for Nate or anyone but myself, but I would estimate that at least a third of my Trump related comments are quoting Trump himself, usually when he's contradicting one of his own positions.

Blogger Josh March 14, 2016 2:51 PM  

I found this amusing:

https://popehat.com/2016/03/14/statement-of-dear-leader-and-in-house-counsel-joel-pollak-denouncing-criminal-acts-of-traitor-fields-shapiro-gang/

Word of the infamous and unnameable deeds of the assassins Fields and Shapiro was released by Dear Leader Joel Pollak, Breitbart News Editor At Large and In-House Counsel, who said thusly: "For months the lies and villainies of the lawless Fields-Shapiro Gang have festered beneath the skin of Breitbart News, before erupting forth like the oozing pus of a treacherous pimple into the sunlight of truth. It was only due to the heroic work of the Special Organs and Great Leader Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski that these treasons against all humanity, and the Populist Nationalist Idea of Great Leader Donald Trump, were dragged forth into the public view, to be spat upon as such slanders deserve."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2016 3:48 PM  

Escoffier wrote:Is the "Conservative" hatred toward Trump based on nothing more than he seems to effortlessly tear through the gauzy shackles the Left had heaped on the right? That he casually dismisses the sacred cows both left and right?

I think it's mostly snobbery. Trump was born rich, and has made himself richer, but he comes across as working class. Mostly it's the Queens accent, but even his excesses of wealth comes across as "What I'd do if I had that kind of money" to a great many people. It's hard to tell if it's a deliberate character he protrays, or it's it's just who he is.
For a lot of people, that's a selling point. For a certain type of intellectual who came from the working class, and joined the GOP as a rejection of his roots, that's just intolerable. Think Matt Walsh or Kevin Williamson. The hatred towards ordinary working class White Americans drips from their writing.
Snobbery.

Anonymous drnick March 14, 2016 4:06 PM  

before erupting forth like the oozing pus of a treacherous pimple into the sunlight of truth

Uh, Josh... Ben Shapiro's father wrote about him without the high journalistic standards you might see at the National Enquirer. Sarcastic hyperbole would work if the harsh sunlight of truth wasn't making the Shapiro clan into a mockery.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 14, 2016 4:48 PM  

Stupid, or even just average, people are easier to explain things to than midwits, because midwits think they're smart enough they don't have to listen.

Anonymous Jeremy March 14, 2016 5:01 PM  

Josh and Nate seem interesting fellows.

I wonder if there is anything Trump could do to change their minds on him?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2016 5:08 PM  

Jeremy wrote:osh and Nate seem interesting fellows.
I wonder if there is anything Trump could do to change their minds on him?

Not before he's elected, no.
I like them both. I enjoy a finely tuned cynicism, seasoned with bitterness and slow-roasted with high intelligence. They're wrong from time to time, but it's still enjoyable.
Compared to them, most of their rhetorical opponents here are store-brand frozen burritos.

Blogger tz March 14, 2016 8:11 PM  

@142 - sometimes the stream of consciousness is from a fire-hose or pressure washer. It causes some to come clean. Coincidentally, today's first reading at mass was the story of Susannah. (see a Catholic Bible).

Blogger Desiderius March 14, 2016 9:23 PM  

"I can't speak for Nate or anyone but myself, but I would estimate that at least a third of my Trump related comments are quoting Trump himself, usually when he's contradicting one of his own positions."

Ace makes the case here:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/362081.php

In my mind, anyone claiming not to understand either the appeal of Trump (see Scott Adams, for one, or Roissy/Heartiste) or the reasons to be against Trump is either being disingenuous or intellectually lazy.

It's not complicated.

Our leadership class (sic) has been so thoroughly castrated that even a two-bit grifter looks good in comparison if he brings some manliness to the table.

Anonymous Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk March 15, 2016 12:31 AM  

Lord have mercy. Will some of you folks just go ahead (no pun intended) and get the Nate Blowing over with?? This is damn near embarrassing. So many posters here think they need to lick your balls, so as to be "accepted". And yes, you regale in the homo eroticism.

Good God Almighty.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 15, 2016 2:48 AM  

Nyuk Nyuk,

Go easy on the Josh and Nate fellators. It IS Steak and BJ day after all.

Blogger jmarinara March 15, 2016 5:01 PM  

Probably the funniest part of this post is VD failing to realize that William Bigelow is the pen name Ben gave his father who worked as a copy editor at Breitbart.

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