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Friday, March 18, 2016

The rise of Channel Alt Right

First, the Kickstarter for Silenced is winding down. You only have four more hours to back it. Back Silenced here. I did. And I suspect that you're going to want to be able to say you did too.

Second,  Mike Cernovich explains why the media is losing its undeclared, but vicious war on the Alt Right:
Why has the mainstream media and especially conservative pundits projected their rage onto Donald Trump and his supporters? Pundits are fighting hard because there’s a war going on. No one saw this war. Well, almost no one…

This election has been about more than Trump.
This is a war over the future of the media.

Pundits are poor in money and rich and status. Most of them live off of sugar daddies to pay their bills, and money does not drive pundits.

Pundits are status obsessed. Being seen as the right kind of person is their only goal in life. They live and die on shame…the feeling that they do or do not belong to the proper social class.

Supposed journalists and pundits have accumulated considerable social status and power. With the power of an article, journalists have forced the most powerful politicians and richest chief executives to quit their jobs.

One does not lose power without a fight.
Third, on the basis of the new polls that show Trump +52 in New York, +12 in Arizona, and +16 in California (the latter is less credible since Rubio is included, but he's only got 10 points), it is safe to conclude that Donald Trump has effectively won the Republican nomination.

He's still got to close it out, but at this point, it would be a major surprise if he didn't. He's clearly increasing his lead over Cruz at this point.

UPDATE: Holy cats, nice work, everyone. It was at 58K when I last noticed. It finished with 838 backers pledging $71,060 to bring SILENCED to life. Well done.

I've spoken to Mike about this, and I don't think he'd mind me telling you that the seeds being planted here are going to result in a lot more than just a single documentary film. The man has a vision and it is one worth supporting.

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156 Comments:

Blogger Jon M March 18, 2016 4:25 PM  

Fellow backer here. Wasn't much, but I have had enough of sitting on the sidelines.

Blogger VD March 18, 2016 4:29 PM  

Wasn't much, but I have had enough of sitting on the sidelines.

Doesn't matter. The point is, you're on the battlefield, sending the message with all of us.

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 4:30 PM  

The closer v.s. the hoser (see "Strange Brew").
Meanwhile, there's several people creating blacklists of bad people - like Phyllis Schaffly - because they support Trump, so aren't "Conservative".
Beyond entertaining. The meltdown is fun to watch. Even better, with threats, those who oppose Trump are on the side of the violent left.

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 4:34 PM  

And I disagree that One does not lose power without a fight. - The GOP has no power, only position where they can and do rubber-stamp everything the Democrats want. I can't think of one thing the Conservative Industrial Complex has fought for other than cheating Ron Paul in Florida in 2012, at least since Reagan left office.
They have continually moved the bar - No, we need 2/3 of the senate and house and the white house and then we might think about winning again, otherwise it is just too hard.

Blogger christopher.gage March 18, 2016 4:40 PM  

Do not fail to realize this as virtue-signaling of the Alt-Right:

"And I suspect that you're going to want to be able to say you did too."

Having said that... it convinced me to bump my backing for Silenced to $100.

#Firestarters

Blogger Fatherless March 18, 2016 4:40 PM  

Backed. Thanks for the reminder.

Blogger 1337kestrel March 18, 2016 4:44 PM  

They have continually moved the bar - No, we need 2/3 of the senate and house and the white house

That's because they're not right-wing, they're conservative. Progressives rarely had a big majority, and rarely won any battles. They simply fought yard by yard toward a goal line.

Conservatives are the defensive line of civilization. Barring the occasional interception, they don't score points and they can't win games. You put them on the field, give them the ball, and they just dive on it for 4 plays.

The problem is they prevented the offense from taking the field for 30 years.

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 4:55 PM  

You also know they are getting desperate but are still clueless when Mitch McConnell invites Ted Cruz to meet with him so McConnell can forgive him. Turns out Cruz is a vertebrate. Now if he would just channel some of the sigma stealth tactics to do bold things, he could gain traction. But he won't.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 4:56 PM  

Ok ok I'm in. Is the sparse number of backers from EU countries revealing their ambivalence towards true free speech? Or more that Europeans don't do crowdfunding?

Blogger SciVo March 18, 2016 4:57 PM  

I'm honestly surprised at the blacklist thing. I know they keep on demonstrating idiocy, but wow. A list of pro-Americans? How do I get on it?

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 4:58 PM  

@7 - good point. The Alt-right is going mainstream.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling March 18, 2016 5:01 PM  

@3 tz:

Meanwhile, there's several people creating blacklists of bad people....

Here's Breitbart.com on this: "Blacklisted: Drudge, Coulter, Hannity, Carson, Breitbart, O’Reilly, Christie Make GOP Smart Set’s List of ‘Ideological Hustlers’", it's being done out in the open, which says a lot.

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 5:02 PM  

@10 - I don't know yet, but I suspect one will be stupid enough to solicit samples and create something where we can all enter our names.

Sort of like Randi Harper's block list - I'm so disappointed she didn't accept my pull request.

But they will probably double down ten times for a 1024x amplification by Monday. Then realize the black list has more names than the black-listers.

Blogger VD March 18, 2016 5:06 PM  

Do not fail to realize this as virtue-signaling of the Alt-Right:

It's not virtue-signaling. It's putting on the damn jersey.

Anonymous Snick March 18, 2016 5:07 PM  

@12,

Levin is going total loon on this now. Conservative Review is his day job now. Mercer must just be sneezing nails at being accused of being a Trump supporter, especially after last week's uproar.

Also from Breitbart, San Fransicko has BANNED Milo! His event got cancelled and he has protesters.

Between Milo and the current cycle, the entertainment gold has been awesome.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 18, 2016 5:10 PM  

Pony up cheapskates. I did.

Blogger Sir Thermite March 18, 2016 5:12 PM  

Just donated too, thanks for the reminder

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 5:14 PM  

@12 - I didn't have time to link the article.
They are so stupid and have so much pride that they aren't even trying to be stealthy or subtle.
Flying down to a meeting with the heads of Apple and Google.
The Showtime dinner meeting.
I forget who said the Delegates select the nominee, not the voters.
Various pundits, contributors, insiders, politicians proclaiming #NeverTrump even when they demanded the loyalty pledge.
Talk about changing the rules or forming a 3rd party (oh, please, please - Trump and his slate of Congressmen and Senators will win in a landslide and the GOP will be Whigs 2.0).

This only fans the flame (anti-fragile?). They only induce more anger because they are saying they are going to cheat, backstab, and betray the base again, and the base - revitalized with the return of the Reagan Democrats - is saying "we don't need you and don't want you, so go away".

They also don't realize Trump tends to remember who his enemies are and this "OK, your party won, but we'll all just get along not that it is over" stuff that has happened for decades won't happen this time. You don't have to be his friend but you don't want to be his enemy.

Trump is actually playing a small part but one only he could play. He is standing on the shoulder of a very angry giant that has been asleep for a while. Think Trump the Lilliputian making a deal with Gulliver who asks, "should I stomp on them? I want to stomp on them".

Anonymous 5343 March 18, 2016 5:18 PM  

It's not virtue-signaling. It's putting on the damn jersey.

What a great line. Just kicked in. Thanks for the reminder, Vox.

Cernovich's interview on the Rubin Report is well worth the time too.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/17/donald-trump-and-politically-correct-culture/

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 5:20 PM  

See what I mean?

Breaking: Mitt Romney will Caucus for Ted Cruz.

This week, in the Utah nominating caucus, I will vote for Senator Ted Cruz.

Today, there is a contest between Trumpism and Republicanism. Through the calculated statements of its leader, Trumpism has become associated with racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia, vulgarity and, most recently, threats and violence. I am repulsed by each and every one of these.

The only path that remains to nominate a Republican rather than Mr. Trump is to have an open convention. At this stage, the only way we can reach an open convention is for Senator Cruz to be successful in as many of the remaining nominating elections as possible.

I like Governor John Kasich. I have campaigned with him. He has a solid record as governor. I would have voted for him in Ohio. But a vote for Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that Trumpism would prevail.

I will vote for Senator Cruz and I encourage others to do so as well, so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.

Blogger JCclimber March 18, 2016 5:28 PM  

thanks for the reminder.
Times ARE tough since some A*hole broke into our house last month and stole a very large amount of *ahem*. But free speech is worth supporting.

Blogger Sam Lively March 18, 2016 5:29 PM  

@20

Remember the theory that Trump was a stalking horse for Hillary?

Now I'm starting to wonder if all of the people Trump paid over the years are stalking horses for his own run.

That's really the only way to explain Mitt's behavior. He can't be this dumb.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 5:30 PM  

WHAT? Trump +52 in NY unbelievable!

Still, the Guardian has Shillary right now 56-36 over Trump in NY. What an epic battle that will be.

Anonymous Bob March 18, 2016 5:35 PM  

VD thank you for presenting the opportunity for someone like me to "put on the jersey" in a fashion I can be comfortable with.

And thank you minions, ilk and assorted creatures of the night for a comment section that never fails to inspire, entertain, motivate and give me some hope.

Just one question, the tag goes on the inside, right?

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 5:35 PM  

Silenced has hit +$60k with 105 minutes to go. Let's finish strong.

Blogger SciVo March 18, 2016 5:36 PM  

I actually feel sorry for Ted Cruz. How dare Mitt Romney inflict his endorsement on the poor guy?! That's just rude.

Blogger VFM 0433 March 18, 2016 5:38 PM  

Backed for $25, lets make this great!

Anonymous John Kasich, the Man Who Cares March 18, 2016 5:39 PM  

My father the mail carrier would often have me ride along in the back of the mail truck, as we drove around small town America.

So many interesting packages went through there.

It was our special time.

Anonymous Wyrd March 18, 2016 5:39 PM  

Why not? Just pledged.

Blogger JDC March 18, 2016 5:46 PM  

It's not virtue-signaling. It's putting on the damn jersey.

Okay guys...show us what ya got



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJkHm2WtSsk

Blogger VD March 18, 2016 5:47 PM  

Today, there is a contest between Trumpism and Republicanism. Through the calculated statements of its leader, Trumpism has become associated with racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia, vulgarity and, most recently, threats and violence. I am repulsed by each and every one of these.

Translation: I'm a cuckservative and I want to flood the USA with New Americans. Please to have my wife and daughters.

Blogger Alexander March 18, 2016 5:52 PM  

Pledged!

Blogger #7139 March 18, 2016 5:53 PM  

Pledged last night.

Blogger Sam Lively March 18, 2016 5:54 PM  

@31

As soon as conservatives conceded the moral high ground to the left, the only way they could retain their self-righteousness was to attack those on the right. Attacking the left would be immoral!

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 18, 2016 5:57 PM  

I'm in for $50. Money's tight.

Kickstarter says 737 on people are looking. That's not many of us, and he's way past the goal. Pledges are averaging a little over $100.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 6:02 PM  

Please to have my wife and daughters.

Please send me their resumes for my binders full of women.

Anonymous Mr Hyde March 18, 2016 6:06 PM  

Unemployed, still backed for $10, no longer wish to be an observer of events

Blogger Escoffier March 18, 2016 6:08 PM  

Pledged

Blogger Salt March 18, 2016 6:08 PM  

I'm in.

Blogger Beau March 18, 2016 6:11 PM  

In for $100, well spent dollars won by the sweat of my brow. Freedom to proclaim and listen to the gospel openly is a treasure beyond worth.

Blogger Unknown March 18, 2016 6:14 PM  

This comment has been removed by the author.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 6:14 PM  

Silenced over +$67k with 64 minutes to go. Keep it up.

Blogger Timothy MEEHAN March 18, 2016 6:16 PM  

Going to donate now. We are on the cusp of something new.

Anonymous FitzRobert March 18, 2016 6:25 PM  

Backed.

Blogger Random March 18, 2016 6:25 PM  

Pledged.

Anonymous FitzRobert March 18, 2016 6:28 PM  

Average pledge is $87. That's impressive.

Anonymous Dave Gerrold's Cabana Boy March 18, 2016 6:29 PM  

Pledged. Thanks for the Heads up, Vox.

Jersey to go with the Jolly Rodger...

Anonymous Watchu talkin bout Willis March 18, 2016 6:41 PM  

I'm on board. Can I donate ammo too?

Blogger dienw March 18, 2016 6:41 PM  

O.T. but relevant to the Trump Campaign
What are trained Assassins doing at Remove Trump meetings?
The GOPe elite appears to have the capacity to have elite assassins act as security for their Remove Trump meetings; if they are able to command these assassins, then they can have these murderers carry our the assassination of Trump.

The illusion that the military will protect Americans from American tyrants is dispelled; only a fool would now trust the military, let alone the police.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 18, 2016 6:43 PM  

Not much here either (tough times), but....gotta do it. Actually the first time I've done so.

Anonymous kfg March 18, 2016 6:43 PM  

"WHAT? Trump +52 in NY unbelievable!"

Believe it. Most of the state, by geography, is filled up with gun toting rednecks who are starting to wonder what all these Somalis are suddenly doing out in the woods.

" . . the Guardian has Shillary right now 56-36 over Trump in NY."

Because, Hillary will be pulling numbers on the order of 70% in NYC/The Island, Albany, Syracuse and Buffalo.

Nearly the entire rest of the state will be going Trump, but not by enough to not get swamped by the cities.

We just went through that with almost the entire state voting single issue, second amendment, but the cities gave us Andy "SAFE Act" Cuomo for another term.

Wall off the cities. Turn the lights out. Let the games begin.

Anonymous BGKB March 18, 2016 6:46 PM  

Progressives rarely had a big majority, and rarely won any battles.

They win by using judges as Priest-kings

San Fransicko has BANNED Milo! His event got cancelled and he has protesters.

Those are just his exes, and I thought mine hated me.

John Kasich, My father the mail carrier would often have me ride along and really hated the milkman.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 18, 2016 6:47 PM  

Pledged, not much, (times are tough) first time with a kickstarter.

Blogger Eric Hanson March 18, 2016 6:48 PM  

A pleasure to back this worthy adventure. The only other Kickstarter I donated to was my son's self-produced album. That was good but seeing the cucks and the SJW's do belly flops in an empty pool is well worth the investment.

Blogger YIH March 18, 2016 6:54 PM  

Pledged $14.88

Blogger Spencer Rathbun March 18, 2016 6:57 PM  

I pledged a day or two ago. I wanted my name on the list.

Blogger SciVo March 18, 2016 7:05 PM  

Just crossed $70k with 13 minutes to go. Awesome.

Blogger Michael Maier March 18, 2016 7:05 PM  

There better be nudity on my DVD.

AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN "MALE NUDITY", GORAMMIT!

Blogger #7139 March 18, 2016 7:05 PM  

70 grand pledged

Blogger Franz March 18, 2016 7:05 PM  

Thanks for the reminder Vox. Just in time, I liked your original post but then day to day life stuff got in the way. Now finally backed this with $250. It's the least an evil London investment banker can do. (Laugh)

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 7:06 PM  

VD
Third, on the basis of the new polls that show Trump +52 in New York, +12 in Arizona, and +16 in California (the latter is less credible since Rubio is included, but he's only got 10 points), it is safe to conclude that Donald Trump has effectively won the Republican nomination.



you know what you need to break 'hard ceilings'?

Yuge hands.

Blogger Franz March 18, 2016 7:11 PM  

@58

Really? Lol, that was serendipitous timing then. Just nudged it over $70k with 15 minutes to spare.

So 7 times over subscribed. Good.

Anonymous TheSmokingMan#3424 March 18, 2016 7:14 PM  

with 5 minutes left, backed.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 18, 2016 7:18 PM  

I hope he has Subtitles, that would be nice.

Anonymous bob March 18, 2016 7:18 PM  

Sofa King close to 71K!

Blogger #7139 March 18, 2016 7:19 PM  

An excellent finish.

Anonymous Bob March 18, 2016 7:20 PM  

And nails it!

Blogger Keith Glass March 18, 2016 7:20 PM  

Got in with 4 minutes to spare. . .

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 7:20 PM  

Just cleared $71k with seconds to go. Impressive exceeded original goal by 700%.

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 7:20 PM  

In case anyone missed Romney's announcement, you can't find it anywhere he says Cruz should be the nominee, only that he wants an "open", i.e. brokered convention.

Too many cucks spoil the brothel.

Note that Cruz thanked Romney for the endorsement, I don't think he read it close enough. Basically if Ted gets close enough by pulling from Trump to get the nomination (won't happen), Mitt will switch to Kasich.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 7:34 PM  

At some point, Trump and Trumpsters are going to have to decide if they are interested in winning the nomination and the general election. If Trump falls short of an outright majority of delegates, he's going to have to appeal to the supporters of others to put him over the top at the convention. Demonizing the supporters of other candidates, and treating them with contempt is not a likely path to the nomination. And the bitter reality is that even if Trump arrives with a clear plurality of delegates, if there are more delegates against him than for him, he will lose the nomination. Trumpsters can promise to take their ball and go home if Trump doesn't win, but that is a knife that cuts both ways. Non-Trumpsters can promise and do the same thing.

Which brings me to my second point. According to polls, about 1/3rd of Republicans say they will not vote for Trump under any circumstances. Of course, as Trumpsters, you can promise an even greater percentage refusing to vote for anyone other than Trump. But even if (as I think is likely) Trump arrives at the convention with an outright majority of delegates, he still has to win the general election.

Both McCain and Romney lost because many Republicans stayed home. Many are promising to stay home because of Trump's offensiveness, and his demonization of other candidates and their supporters. Trump's negatives are off the charts bad.

That's not to say that Hillary's polls are much better. But if Trump and Trumpsters want to win, continuing to declare that Cruz is not a "native born" citizen, or belittling supporters of Cruz is not likely to win any support for Trump. Trump will need all the support he can muster to overcome the bias of the national media.

Trump has already begun trying to reach out to others, and call for party unity. Will his supporters also do this?

The big question is are you actually interested in winning the election? Or is destroying the Republican party with scorched earth tactics the main goal? Many, if not most, of those I've conversed with online see destroying the Republican party as a net positive, and will be happy to see their anger vented in such a way. That's fine to some extent, but what comes after that? What do you gain if the only viable party left is the Left-wing democrats?

I expect Trump to win the nomination. If you actually want to win in November, you are going to need the support of people like me, who support a different candidate right now, but am sympathetic to supporters of Trump - even if I'm less sympathetic to Trump himself. Will you be inviting, or respond with the usual vitriolic bile of which I've seen so often?

It costs me nothing for you to send hatred my way. But it potentially costs you a lot. Your choice.

Scott6584

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 7:39 PM  

@70 Scott6584

Demonizing the supporters of other candidates, and treating them with contempt is not a likely path to the nomination.
---

/facepalm

The Trump supporters have been hounded and harassed at every turn by you Cruzers. If the shoe fits, wear it.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 18, 2016 7:39 PM  

@Scott6584

We have to have direct democracy. Numbered ballot slips on paper with an easy access web site to allow you to match up your number with the ballot you casted. Actually, a paper copy of your ballot+number is best. Too much dead bodies, marcosoft and diebold voting going on.

Anonymous Dave March 18, 2016 7:39 PM  

Silenced backers from available data:
157 @ $10 = $1,570
315 @ $25 = $7,875
106 @ $50 = $5,300
164 @ $100 = $16,400
16 @ $250 = $4,000
14 @ $500 = $7,000
2 @ $1k = $2,000
5 @ $5k = $25,000

A number of heavy hitters but over 740 backers pledged $100 and under.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 7:44 PM  

"I actually feel sorry for Ted Cruz. How dare Mitt Romney inflict his endorsement on the poor guy?! That's just rude."

Actually, Romney did NOT endorse Cruz. He endorsed a contested convention, and said the only way to get there was to vote for Cruz. He specifically did NOT say that he would support Cruz at the convention. Who knows who he wants to support at the convention? My guess is he'll want to support someone who didn't run - like himself.

The reality is that Cruz and Trump together control 75-80% of the delegates, and can band together to win. The Establishment is still trying to find a way to steal it from both of them. But Trump supporters demonizing Cruz, or Cruz supporters demonizing Trump doesn't help bring the two factions together. The fact remains that those two factions have more in common with each other than they do with the voters backing the Establishment.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner March 18, 2016 7:44 PM  

@70 DT gives leftists and cucks the DTs

Delirium Tremens

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 7:45 PM  

@70 Scott6584

Demonizing the supporters of other candidates, and treating them with contempt is not a likely path to the nomination.
---

/facepalm

"The Trump supporters have been hounded and harassed at every turn by you Cruzers. If the shoe fits, wear it."

Face-palm all you want. It doesn't change the fact that if/when you win, it is YOU who will have to win the support of Cruz backers, not the other way around. You need to get used to that idea.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 7:47 PM  

Scott6584
continuing to declare that Cruz is not a "native born" citizen



the day that you start whining about me wanting to follow the Constitution is the day you can stop asking me to be on your side.

hell, even Bill Whittle admits that Cruz doesn't qualify to the Constitutional requirements.

he just wants to grandfather Cruz in under the Obama exemption to the Constitution.



Scott6584
Will you be inviting, or respond with the usual vitriolic bile of which I've seen so often?



speaking of vitriolic bile, scott's side is making an enemies list:
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/blackballing-those-who-endorse-trump



in other hilarious news, Terry Bollea goes all Hulkmania on Gawker:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/115-million-verdict-in-hulk-hogan-sex-tape-lawsuit-could-wipe-out-gawker/


i think that's a piledriver from off of the top rope, boys.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 7:55 PM  

@Bob Mando

It is the responsibility of the victor to be magnanimous and woo supporters from other camps. Making excuses that others treated Trump may be true, but it won't expand your base of supporters. If you don't want support from Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich backers, that's fine. But if you don't unify the party behind Trump, you have no chance of winning in November.

If you want to trash talk the other Republicans, that's your choice. It's not likely to be well received. If you don't care, that's also your choice.

You can regurgitate every unfair attack on Trump and Trumpsters. It won't win you support if you respond by attacking back. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying it doesn't matter that you are right. You still have to get the backers of other candidates on your side.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Blogger Doseux March 18, 2016 8:14 PM  

I am proud to be a part if this project. Godspeed, Mike, Vox.

Anonymous AmStrat March 18, 2016 8:17 PM  

What exactly are you asking for, though, Scott? Civility from Trump? Trump tends to keep it civil until he's attacked, then retaliates at 2x the power with guaranteed accuracy and a crit modifier of +30% over normal.

Civility from Trump supporters? I've seen more than a few here in the "Trump first, but could vote Cruz". Granted I also see plenty of people convinced he's establishment. I think he's just accepting any help he can get to win, but what the what to his involvement with the bushes... not a good idea...

Or maybe you can tell us what you believe is at stake? Cruz supporters are not fungible. What % are "never trumps"? What ‰ are "Cruz preferred, but could vote Trump"? Lastly, do you see any Trumpers leaving if the Trump/Cruz truce... hereafter the Truz truce happens?

Anonymous Type 5 March 18, 2016 8:17 PM  

"Demonizing the supporters of other candidates, and treating them with contempt is not a likely path to the nomination."

It's not like I read the transcripts of Trump's speeches, but I've never heard of him attacking the other candidates supporters, just the candidates.

"If you actually want to win in November, you are going to need the support of people like me."

"I AM NOT IRRELEVANT!"

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:19 PM  

I'll put in another way. In 1980, the Establishment was dead set against Reagan. But Reagan had the charm and likeability to overcome that in the general election and pull in all the Republicans in addition to pulling support away from the Democrats. Also, Reagan supporters didn't rub the noses of those who supported the losers in the mud.

Does Trump have that same ability, and are Trump supporters willing to be as generous as Reagan supporters were.

Full Disclosure. My parents supported Reagan in 1976 and 1980. My first vote for President was Reagan in 1984.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 8:21 PM  

Ok guys, I hope this isn't completely OT, but Hogan whipped GAWKER in court:

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/18/jury-sides-with-hulk-hogan-in-his-sex-tape-lawsuit-against-gawker-and-awards-him-115-million/

Blogger BunE22 March 18, 2016 8:23 PM  

Look Scott, vote to save the country, or don't. If you expect people to kiss your ass for your vote you're going to be disappointed.

Blogger James Dixon March 18, 2016 8:24 PM  

> Many are promising to stay home because of Trump's offensiveness, and his demonization of other candidates and their supporters. Trump's negatives are off the charts bad.

How many people did you hear promising they would stay home if Romney were the nominee? Not many that I can recall. Yet stay home they did, and it cost Romney the election. The people you hear talking now you're hearing because they all have media connections. They're a tiny sliver of the voting population. If they stay home, no one will even notice.

> The big question is are you actually interested in winning the election? Or is destroying the Republican party with scorched earth tactics the main goal.

The main goal is to "Make America great again." Just as it was with Reagan. Destroying the existing Republican party is simply a nice side benefit. They're not contradictory goals. In fact, I suspect the latter is a requirement for the former to occur.\

If you actually want to win in November, you are going to need the support of people like me,

I don't need anything Scott. The country does. If you want to deny the country your vote, that's up to you, not us.

> ... or respond with the usual vitriolic bile of which I've seen so often?

You seem to be mistaking the comments directed at Matt for those directed at you. Read rule number 1. As far as I can tell you've been treated no worse here than you've treated others.

> It costs me nothing for you to send hatred my way.

Hatred? Because you support Cruz?? Cruz is the primary choice for many here, and the second or third for most others. The only reason I don't support him in the primary is because he's not a natural born citizen.

> It is the responsibility of the victor to be magnanimous and woo supporters from other camps.

Yeah, because that's been followed so well in the recent past. We remember how Romney treated his opponents, Scott.

> But if you don't unify the party behind Trump, you have no chance of winning in November.

Trump isn't doing anything thousands of other candidates haven't done before him. Many of them were supported by their previous opponents and won.

It's up to the non-Trump supporters to make their decisions, not us to make them for them. They can either vote for Trump when he wins (assuming he does, Cruz can still pull it out, though it's a long shot), they can stay home, or they can vote for anther candidate (whether Hillary or third party). I'm not going to try to tell them how to vote. That's entirely up to them. They should vote their conscience and live with the results.

> f you don't care, that's also your choice.

We don't. We've been lied to too long by too many.

> I'm saying it doesn't matter that you are right. You still have to get the backers of other candidates on your side.

Again with the you have. We don't have to do anything. Many of us think it's far to late for even Trump to fix things.

> What's so hard to understand about that?

Why we should believe it's so important now when it's never been important before. Where was the conciliation from Dole, from Bush, from McCain, or from Romney?

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:26 PM  

@Amstrat

I just don't want Hillary to win because Trump and his supporters pissed off too many Republicans. That's all.

I don't personally like Trump, but I'll back him over Kasich who makes my skin crawl, and over any Establishment candidate. I'm not going to change my mind that Cruz is a better choice. But Cruz wasn't my first, or even second choice. I'm willing to move off of Cruz, but not willing to admit I was wrong about him.

I now support Cruz, but STILL BELIEVE that Scott Walker was the best candidate available. He was also the first to withdraw when he couldn't get a word in edgewise in Iowa.

Are Trump supporters willing to allow others to retain the belief they were right, but lost. Or do Trump supporters DEMAND we bow and worship at the altar of the "Emperor-God" Trump. Because I will NEVER do the latter. I'll die first.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 8:29 PM  

@76 Scott6584

Face-palm all you want. It doesn't change the fact that if/when you win, it is YOU who will have to win the support of Cruz backers, not the other way around. You need to get used to that idea.
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I'd certainly be willing to forgive and forget if Teddy shoves Blubberin' Beck, Levin, Guttfeld, and Small Mittens under the bus :P

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 8:31 PM  

@77 bob k. mando

i think that's a piledriver from off of the top rope, boys.
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More in Hulks style, it was an Eye Rake, a Punch to the Bread Basket, and a Hollywood Leg Drop

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 8:34 PM  

@82 Scott6584

My first vote for President was Reagan in 1984.
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Same here

Blogger Rantor March 18, 2016 8:35 PM  

I joined in on Cernovich's project. Would love to have had $5K... in a few years perhaps. i am sure you and he will provide more projects in the future.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 8:36 PM  

78. Scott6584 March 18, 2016 7:55 PM
What's so hard to understand about that?



a - we're out here with pitch forks and torches screaming about burning this shit sandwich to the ground and you're complaining that we aren't asking to kiss your booboo and make it all better?

dude, your type are the Frankenstein's monster that voted for McCain and Romney.

you need to work on mastering social cues. chances of booboo kisses == 0

now if you heave some shipping containers of boob freedom out ... that i might kiss.


b - i'm not Trump. Trump ain't me.

IF *Trump* wants your vote
THEN it's up to Trump to campaign for your vote.

if i want to put your head on a pike and mount it ( so to speak ) on the city walls
then it's stupid to hold that against Trump.

you might, however, wish to consider repenting of what it was you did to piss me off so much.



c - your passive aggressive whining and dominance play is really stupid.

Trump said mean things about Chris Christie and his supporters. then Fatman dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump. now Trump says lots of nice things about Chris.

Trump said mean things about Yeb! Bush and his supporters. then Yeb! dropped out of the race, now Trump ignores him.

Trump said mean things about Dr. Carson and his supporters. then Ben dropped out of the race and endorsed him, now Trump says nice things about him.


ARE YOU SEEING A PATTERN HERE?

WHEN Trump secures the nomination
THEN he will start ignoring Cruz.

WHEN Cruz drops his campaign
THEN Trump will start playing kissy face with you.

wait your turn boy, Trump will give no booboo kisses before their proper time.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:38 PM  

One the main reasons I have voted Republican all my life is I refuse to give Fealty to the government. They owe fealty to me, not vice versa. And I don't intend to give Trump my fealty either.

His comments about expanding the definitions of slander to shield himself from criticism are very alarming. I swore the day that McCain-Feingold passed that McCain would NEVER get my vote. A law denying the right of the people to criticize the President or Congress, or judges is something I'll take up arms to overthrow. If Trump also goes down that path toward tyranny, I will oppose him as strongly as I opposed McCain.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 8:38 PM  

tz wrote:I can't think of one thing the Conservative Industrial Complex has fought for other than cheating Ron Paul in Florida in 2012, at least since Reagan left office.

They fight for position. That's whats important to them.
Haven't you noticed most of the really angry #NeverTrumpers are GenX New Media movement conservatives? They fought hard to turn their Mommyblog into a gig at TheBlaze or SalemMedia. Don't you dare threaten that!

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 8:40 PM  

@86 Scott6584

Are Trump supporters willing to allow others to retain the belief they were right, but lost. Or do Trump supporters DEMAND we bow and worship at the altar of the "Emperor-God" Trump. Because I will NEVER do the latter. I'll die first.
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O_O - please don't have a melt down - no one is forcing you to do anything :P

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:44 PM  

@Bob K. Mando

You answered my question, boyo. You are more interested in "burning this shit sandwich to the ground" than you are winning.

Noted.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 8:44 PM  

92. Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:38 PM
A law denying the right of the people


sanity check:
how does the US President write law?

Blogger James Dixon March 18, 2016 8:45 PM  

> His comments about expanding the definitions of slander to shield himself from criticism are very alarming.

You mean like the folks calling him Hitler. Somehow I don't find that anywhere near as alarming as continuing to allow millions of illegal immigrants in a year or continuing to allow the government to fully control health care; just to name two.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 8:48 PM  

95. Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:44 PM
You answered my question, boyo.



*shrugs*


you're the one who doesn't know that the President doesn't write any laws at all.

which is not surprising, given that you're also the one demanding that i ignore Constitutional restrictions on who may run for office.

repent of your lawlessness or don't, ain't no skin off my back.

just don't act surprised when i'd just as soon not have you around while you insist on reveling in your destruction of the Constitution.

Blogger James Dixon March 18, 2016 8:51 PM  

> ... how does the US President write law?

Apparently simply by executive action ordering the appropriate agency either not to enforce or to break existing laws (INS and BATF), by non-disclosed and non-documented meetings with agency head to give them their illegal marching orders (the IRS), or by simply reinterpreting existing law to suit ones self (Obamacare, EPA). At least, that's how it's seemed to work for the last 7+ years.

Blogger Rantor March 18, 2016 8:53 PM  

I did not vote for NE Liberal Mitt Romney, never will. Plus I disagree with his religion... he is inconsistent on life with no idea other than to follow the neocons on foreign policy.

I will vote for Trump. The wall is needed, if he does that and says Merry Christmas loudly, that will have to be enough. Two reasonable Supreme Court Justices would be a bonus.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:55 PM  

I want a Revolution. But I want an American Revolution, not a French Revolution. The French just wanted to burn it all down; the Americans wanted to build something better.

Who won the American revolution? Americans

Who won the French revolution? Napoleon

I'm not interested in empowering a new Napoleon. The result of "burning this shit sandwich to the ground" is that 5 years after it ended, the French got a dictator. I want the power returned to the people, not consolidated even more than it already is.

Anonymous Andrew E. March 18, 2016 8:58 PM  

I want Cruz to unseal his birth records. Be straight up with the people. Apologize for throwing in with the Communist left after Chicago. Then I'll think about softening up on Cruz.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 9:02 PM  

Cruz's birth records are not sealed. His mother was an American of several generations, of Anglo heritage who was born and raised in Delaware. His father was Cuban.

According to the law, a child born of an American parent in a foreign land is a natural born American. End of argument.

You have a MUCH better case to say Rubio is not a natural born citizen because neither of his parents were Americans when he was born. They were both citizens-in-exile of Cuba. Hence, Rubio is a Cuban.

But the American maternal parentage of Cruz is not disputed.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 9:02 PM  

tz wrote:I will vote for Senator Cruz and I encourage others to do so as well, so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.
That is the weakest candidate endorsement ever. "I will elect the open-heart surgery rather than instant death."

Anonymous Andrew E. March 18, 2016 9:07 PM  

I want to see Cruz's CRBA. And, like VD, I don't agree with the emanations and penumbras that you say you can be born abroad to one citizen parent and qualify as natural born citizen. But I'm willing to forgive his attempted end-run around the Constitution if he coughs up the papers and stays off the ticket.

Oh, and he needs to acknowledge error and apologize for the terrible mistake of siding with the Communist left after Chicago to advance his Presidential ambitions.

Anonymous kfg March 18, 2016 9:11 PM  

"Who won the American revolution?"

In military terms, the French.

And Lafayette, I don't know how much longer we will be here.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 9:11 PM  

99. James Dixon March 18, 2016 8:51 PM
At least, that's how it's seemed to work for the last 7+ years.



all of which is completely different than the President changing existing law such that he could have a chance to win a libel / slander suit in a civil case, before a jury.


also hilarious, in that a President Trump is going to have to be the Wheeler Dealer of the millennium in order to get both houses of Congress to pass bills that are to his liking.

because, for some strange reason, i just don't foresee Bitch Mcucknell having a problem stalling funding when President Trump tries to do something Bitch doesn't like.


101. Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:55 PM
But I want an American Revolution, not a French Revolution.



you are such a crybaby.

Blogger SciVo March 18, 2016 9:16 PM  

Scott, no one in the real world cares about our intramural slapfight. Which is why Trump and Cruz delegates are coordinating in Tennessee.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 9:20 PM  

@108. SciVo

That's all I'm advocating for, coordination between Cruz and Trump camps - something which apparently has gone right over the heads of some people who'd rather call people names and trash talk than discuss how to win in November.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 9:21 PM  

@Bob.

At some point, you have to declare victory and stop fighting...

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 9:22 PM  

Scott is posturing and that's all he's doing.

notice:
he started by arguing that he was 'afraid' that Trump would NOT be elected, giving the presidency to Hitlery.

then he progressed to being 'afraid' that Trump would be elected.

now he's 'afraid' of us and our French Revolutionary ways.

this has never been about Trump.

this is completely about Scott trying to browbeat *us* into kissing his ass and excusing all the dumb shit he's said over the previous month.

without, you know, ever apologizing for having been wrong in the first place.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 9:26 PM  

Bullshit!

I never said I was afraid that Trump would be elected. In fact, I'm not afraid of Hillary being elected. I just would rather it be Trump over Hillary.

And it's not about kissing my ass. It's about acknowledging you are going to have to work WITH others to get elected in November. I don't expect Trump supporters to declare fealty to me, any more than I'm willing to declare fealty to them.

What I am advocating for is an ALLIANCE, not a surrender. But you seem determined to poison that possibility.

Anonymous Takin' a Look March 18, 2016 9:34 PM  

So where is Matt Edwards? Is he asleep on the sunny beaches of Tel Aviv?

Blogger James Dixon March 18, 2016 9:35 PM  

> The result of "burning this shit sandwich to the ground" is that 5 years after it ended, the French got a dictator.

And the result of the American revolution was that less than 80 years later, Americans got a dictator. Which lead directly to what we have now.

> According to the law, a child born of an American parent in a foreign land is a natural born American. End of argument.

Reasonable people can, and do, disagree.

> all of which is completely different than the President changing existing law such that he could have a chance to win a libel / slander suit in a civil case, before a jury.

Agreed. I was merely pointing out to Scott that that horse has already left the barn and the barn itself is in ashes.

Besides, neither Trump nor Cruz wants a brokered convention, and they'll soon have enough delegates together to ensure it doesn't happen. The vast majority of the party will unify around the candidate with the most delegates to oppose Hillary. Some may chose not to do so. To those, well, Samuel Adams said it well.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 9:37 PM  

One last comment, then I'll climb down off my soap box.

The desire to "destroy" the GOP is a pipe dream. The GOP is more than just the Establishment in Washington. It is the governorships of 30 states, the control of legislatures all over the country, and in Texas, that extends to local elections also. I'm all for ripping control of the national apparatus away from arrogant power brokers, and the donor class in Washington. But the GOP will more than survive that. It has to broad of a legitimate base at the state and local levels to be wiped out by a Trump candidacy, a Trump loss, or a Trump Presidency.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 9:37 PM  

@Scott,
Kiss my hairy blue-white Franco-Irish ass. Because I'm sure as hell not kissing yours.

Vote, or don't, or cut the soles off your shoes, live in a tree and learn to play the flute.
WE DON'T CARE
What part of that is confusing you.

Just, whatever you do, when the shooting starts, stay the hell out of the field of fire. No-one here is going to worry for a second if you decide to get in the way.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 9:38 PM  

Scott6584 wrote:The desire to "destroy" the GOP is a pipe dream.
Deliberate misunderstanding much, cuck?

Blogger James Dixon March 18, 2016 9:42 PM  

> ...something which apparently has gone right over the heads of some people who'd rather call people names and trash talk than discuss how to win in November.

I told you how to win in November. Vote your conscience. If you do that, you've won, no matter who wins the election. Your vote isn't going to determine who wins. Teh votes of everyone here isn't going to determine who wins. In spite of the best efforts of everyone, Hillary may win (they've been importing voters for over 50 years after all). It won't be the end of the world, though it probably will be the end of the United States as we know it.

Blogger bob k. mando March 18, 2016 9:52 PM  

you all can make up your own minds about whether or not Scott is 'afraid' of Trump. keeping in mind that Trump has ALREADY asserted that he'd like to expand eminent domain and libel.


92. Scott6584 March 18, 2016 8:38 PM
His comments about expanding the definitions of slander to shield himself from criticism are very alarming. I swore the day that McCain-Feingold passed that McCain would NEVER get my vote. A law denying the right of the people to criticize the President or Congress, or judges is something I'll take up arms to overthrow. If Trump also goes down that path toward tyranny, I will oppose him as strongly as I opposed McCain.



112. Scott6584 March 18, 2016 9:26 PM
Bullshit!
I never said I was afraid that Trump would be elected.




but you're going to "oppose him as strongly as I opposed McCain".

oh, right, conditionals. which he has already met. according to you.

well, i opposed McCain by voting Constitution Party that election.

if you aren't voting Trump anyways ( not that there's anything wrong with that ), then we have no discussion.

and heck, i'm pretty sure i'm not voting Trump. i expect he has a 'hard ceiling' in Indiana of something like 65% when it comes time for the general.

wouldn't be much point in another 'Yea' vote.

Anonymous patrick kelly March 18, 2016 10:00 PM  

@Scott6584

You seem like a decent guy but my reaction to the words you post here are:

This Is War
You are not on our side
We are not coming over to yours
I will vote for Nazis and let it all burn to the ground before I will ever vote for Republicans as they exist today again if Trump is not elected.
The Republicans are responsible for f****** up this country as any Democrat.

It's not personal
Enjoy the blog

Blogger VD March 18, 2016 10:11 PM  

What I am advocating for is an ALLIANCE, not a surrender. But you seem determined to poison that possibility.

No. Surrender. You lost. The time for an alliance is BEFORE YOU LOSE.

Anonymous Bob March 18, 2016 10:26 PM  

Or if you like, BEFORE YOU STAB YOUR ALLY OF CONVENIENCE IN THE BACK.

Who's the Nazi imitator here?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY March 18, 2016 10:51 PM  

" No. Surrender. You lost. The time for an alliance is BEFORE YOU LOSE. "
That's it. Scott, you "concern" type silliness wont be heard here, because WE. DONT. CARE.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 11:01 PM  

Ok, Somehow I missed this. But John Rocker endorsed Donald Trump. Truly we are in bizzaro world times !

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/john-rocker-im-absolutely-supporting-donald-trump-for-president/

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 11:04 PM  

No, wishing to blow up the Republican party is not a pipe dream but pipe bomb, that is, an improvised explosive device.
And Trump is good at improvisation.

Captain Under-ruse is totally outclassed.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 11:05 PM  

@113 Takin' a Look
So where is Matt Edwards? Is he asleep on the sunny beaches of Tel Aviv?
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Maybe he got deported back to Canada.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 11:08 PM  

@115 Scott6584
But the GOP will more than survive that.
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Ever heard of the whigs?

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 11:09 PM  

@118 James Dixon

It won't be the end of the world, though it probably will be the end of the United States as we know it.
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Seems the US as I knew it already died

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 11:10 PM  

@93 Good analysis. Like the latest Star Wars, the Millenial Falcon has been replaced with the Millenial Vulture. Carrion and keep vomiting.

Blogger tz March 18, 2016 11:18 PM  

@115 - There's the GOP, then there's the GOPe, Conservatism Inc. the Conservative Industrial Complex, with National Review with their horrible hateful cover article in the most recent issue. There will be a divide, and Trump will be on one side and the establishment on the other, and everyone will have to choose sides.

Many are creating a blacklist of Trump supporters, and they will be on the wrong side.

I don't know which side will still be called Republicans, I only know I will be on whichever side Trump ends up on.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 11:19 PM  

I can't believe the crap spewing out of Supreme Cuckster Ericksons mouth.

"The former governor may not know this, but I’m a voter. And my decision is to oppose Donald Trump. So he can suck it up and accept it. This “will of the people” stuff does nothing for me as the will of the people is the very mob rule our founders worked hard to constrain."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/18/mike-huckabee-on-erick-ericksons-push-to-steal-nomination-from-donald-trump-the-soviet-way/

Blogger Were-Puppy March 18, 2016 11:26 PM  

I listened to that Cuckster for several years on the radio in Atlanta. He sounded drunk most nights. But anyway, he used to go on and on about being raised in dubai or some muslim place. He probably gets a big fat check from a Saudi prince.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 11:32 PM  

Cut a cuck and an SJW bleeds.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster March 18, 2016 11:44 PM  

"One the main reasons I have voted Republican all my life is I refuse to give Fealty to the government."

And how's that working out for ya?

If Republicans would rather Hillary win than Trump because badfeelz... what good are they? Trump would do much better courting Sanders supporters than Republicans who will elect the Lizard Queen out of spite.

Blogger Scott6584 March 18, 2016 11:47 PM  

VD wrote:What I am advocating for is an ALLIANCE, not a surrender. But you seem determined to poison that possibility.

No. Surrender. You lost. The time for an alliance is BEFORE YOU LOSE.


No. Cruz is behind, but it is only the 3rd lap of the race. The lead is far from insurmountable, even if the lead seems commanding at this point in time. And the fact remains that there is a 3rd party who wishes to steal the victory from both camps.

I have not conceded defeat, but I'd rather lose the race fairly to someone who completes all 4 laps than have someone who has completed but one lap of the race come in and steal the blue ribbon. I am not suggesting that either Cruz or Trump stop running to win. I'm merely suggesting we agree that no one else should be allowed to step in to steal the glory of those who deserve acclamation.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 18, 2016 11:59 PM  

Scott6584 wrote:I have not conceded defeat,
because you're irrational at this point.
There's the tree, here's you flute, cuck.

Anonymous Bob March 19, 2016 12:02 AM  

Fuck Cruz and Trump

Tonight was Mike's night.

Anonymous Cartman4Cruz March 19, 2016 12:55 AM  

Hey, you guys! Vote Cruz or there will be blood on our hands! Seriously!

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/18/glenn-beck-failure-to-elect-ted-cruz-will-leave-us-will-blood-on-our-hands-see-more-at-httpwww-rightwingwatch-orgcontentglenn-beck-failure-elect-ted-cruz-will-leave-us-will-blood-our-handsst/

Blogger 1337kestrel March 19, 2016 1:24 AM  

If you're 100% sure Trump will win, then you shouldn't care at what point the losers concede.

On the other hand, randos in a comment thread "Advocating for an alliance" serve no purpose. A brokered convention resulting in anyone other than Trump, Cruz, or Rubio will be met with literal blood in the streets. No one needs to coordinate that. It will happen.

*If it's Rubio there may not be literal blood.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 1:52 AM  

@Cartman
The words "Beck" and "serious" do not belong together in any sentence that doesn't also include "mental health issues"

Anonymous Cartman4Cruz March 19, 2016 2:13 AM  

Screw you Trump supporters! I'm going home! Unless you kiss my black ass!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 2:54 AM  

@Cartman
you misspelled Jewish

Blogger bob k. mando March 19, 2016 2:55 AM  

because electing Obama hasn't put any blood on our hands.

oh, hey, lookie there! all Christians in the Near East are murdered or fled!

and we sell our own vivisected baby parts!

that's modern "clean hands" America for ya.

Blogger Scott6584 March 19, 2016 8:33 AM  

Trump is still 559 delegates away from winning. Cruz needs more, but can still get there by winning 78% of the remaining delegates. I will concede when Trump actually secures the victory, and not a moment before.

Having a commanding lead is not the same as having already won. I will acknowledge that it will be very difficult to overcome Trumps lead, but until Cruz is eliminated from competition, don't expect me or other Cruz supporters to stand down.

Blogger Scott6584 March 19, 2016 8:43 AM  

Trump is still 559 delegates away from winning. Cruz needs more, but can still get there by winning 78% of the remaining delegates. I will concede when Trump actually secures the victory, and not a moment before.

Having a commanding lead is not the same as having already won. I will acknowledge that it will be very difficult to overcome Trumps lead, but until Cruz is eliminated from competition, don't expect me or other Cruz supporters to stand down.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 19, 2016 10:21 AM  

Scott6584 wrote:Having a commanding lead is not the same as having already won. I will acknowledge that it will be very difficult to overcome Trumps lead, but until Cruz is eliminated from competition, don't expect me or other Cruz supporters to stand down.

You can keep your giant foam Cruz finger until we take it from your cold dead hands. Let the Trumpsters do the same.

No body starts shaking hands and saying "good game" until the final whistle.

Man up and quit whining about the trash talk. Are you some sort of Tea Sipper?

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2016 11:03 AM  

> i will acknowledge that it will be very difficult to overcome Trumps lead, but until Cruz is eliminated from competition, don't expect me or other Cruz supporters to stand down.

But Trump supporters should, huh? Do as I say, not as I do. Why am I not surprised?

Blogger Scott6584 March 19, 2016 11:18 AM  

James, how can I be more clear?

I am not attacking Trump supporters and calling them stupid. I am not asking for you to change your preference or your vote. I am merely saying that Trump and Cruz supporters have a common enemy, and that we will need each other to fight that common enemy at some point in the near future.

Demonizing one another for short term gain doesn't make sense. Let's battle. But keep in mind the more important fight that is coming.

Blogger Scott6584 March 19, 2016 11:19 AM  

James, how can I be more clear?

I am not attacking Trump supporters and calling them stupid. I am not asking for you to change your preference or your vote. I am merely saying that Trump and Cruz supporters have a common enemy, and that we will need each other to fight that common enemy at some point in the near future.

Demonizing one another for short term gain doesn't make sense. Let's battle. But keep in mind the more important fight that is coming.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 19, 2016 11:32 AM  

@149 Scott6584

Answer the question; are you a tea sipper?

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2016 12:18 PM  

> I am merely saying that Trump and Cruz supporters have a common enemy, and that we will need each other to fight that common enemy at some point in the near future.

What makes you think we don't understand that? There will be time for that once the nomination is settled.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 19, 2016 12:58 PM  

James Dixon wrote:There will be time for that once the nomination is settled.

You misspelled "once Cruz is crushed utterly and his fleeing acolytes pledge to vote for Trump in return for a quick death."

Blogger Were-Puppy March 19, 2016 1:10 PM  

@141 Cartman4Cruz
Screw you Trump supporters! I'm going home! Unless you kiss my black ass!
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As we used to say, your ass is grass

Blogger Were-Puppy March 19, 2016 1:12 PM  

@144 Scott6584
but until Cruz is eliminated from competition, don't expect me or other Cruz supporters to stand down.
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Then why this entire conversation? You're obviously trolling now.

Blogger Rusty Fife March 19, 2016 4:52 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Then why this entire conversation? You're obviously trolling now.

...and the there was radio silence...

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