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Saturday, April 30, 2016

An actual conversation

Other Guy: I don't really know anything about this Rabid Puppies thing. What's up with that?

Vox Day: Oh, it's just related to this science fiction award. Last year we took a bunch of nominations, so they made a big deal about it and vowed it would never happen again. Then this year, we took a few more.

OG: So that's why they're pissed.

VD: Yeah, pretty much. But also because we got things like "Space Raptor Butt Invasion" nominated.

OG: What?

VD: There's this guy, Chuck Tingle, he's a complete lunatic and he writes these crazy gay dinosaur erotica stories.

OG: Doesn't he have a book about boyfriend who is a plane or something too?

VD: There's one called "My Gay Billionaire Plane Boyfriend", something like that, anyway.

OG: Yeah, I read it! It was pretty good.

VD: I'm a little alarmed to hear you've actually read that.

OG: Yeah, well, you're the one who knows the guy's name.

VD: Touche'.

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50 Comments:

Blogger Salt April 30, 2016 10:59 AM  

Starting to think SRBI might win.

Blogger Peter April 30, 2016 11:10 AM  

Well, someone has to say it . . . :

"Butt... butt... NO!"

:-)

Blogger Michael Maier April 30, 2016 11:14 AM  

No, he's way creepier by far.

Blogger Nate April 30, 2016 11:15 AM  

I'm surprised that My Little Pony hasn't gotten more outrage yet. I'm betting they still haven't watched the episode and therefore have no idea what we've actually done.

They think we are just trying to embarrass them by associating them with My Little Pony. Its so nice to be so consistently under-estimated.

Blogger Sun Xhu April 30, 2016 11:23 AM  

@4 Nate... they just can't get past seeing ponies and emitting a "Squeeeee!".

At that point all of their residual cognitive functions shut down for the duration of the episode.

Blogger JACIII April 30, 2016 11:28 AM  

They don't know whether to shit or go blind and that is a beautiful thing. A rabbit simply cannot wrap it's head around a wolf.

Blogger tridekka April 30, 2016 11:31 AM  

Buckle up, buckaroos!

Blogger John Williams April 30, 2016 11:33 AM  

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Anonymous Difster April 30, 2016 11:36 AM  

Next year's slate: Puppies in the Butt.

Blogger Nick S April 30, 2016 11:37 AM  

He's a complete lunatic?

Blogger Nate April 30, 2016 11:39 AM  

"He's a complete lunatic?"

Without question. Consider:

1) its all a performance... in which case... he's a complete lunatic.

2) its not an a role he's playing and its all sincere.... in which case... he's a complete lunatic.

Blogger Nate April 30, 2016 11:42 AM  

Though it pains me to admit it... i do believe next year its time to rebrand the RabidPuppies. Shouldn't be difficult. We are after all the Evil Legion of Evil.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 30, 2016 11:42 AM  

JACIII wrote:They don't know whether to shit or go blind and that is a beautiful thing.
So far, they've been reliably doing both, in that order.

Blogger Harsh April 30, 2016 11:47 AM  

Ted Cobbler does not approve this message...

Blogger Alexander April 30, 2016 11:57 AM  

Id say they didn't want to risk bringing the bronies into it... But we all know they aren't that self-aware.

So yeah, they don't know.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 30, 2016 11:58 AM  

@11 Chuck Tingler might be related to Penelope Ashe in a distant way.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 30, 2016 11:58 AM  

OT: This Penny Arcade comic describes the process of destruction of safe spaces in a nutshell.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 30, 2016 12:01 PM  

Id say they didn't want to risk bringing the bronies into it... But we all know they aren't that self-aware.


Perhaps the SJW’s are still stuck in the “Observation” part of OODA - staring incredulously at MLP as a nomination but not sure how to Orient themselves yet. As we saw last year, their OODA loop runs rather slowly.

Blogger GK Chesterton April 30, 2016 12:19 PM  

That sir is a disturbing but hilarious conversation. My thanks to you, from a strong supporter but not VFM, for making this so fun.

Anonymous DavidKathome April 30, 2016 12:20 PM  

To quote someone who isn't a Rabid Puppies fan...

"Man, Chuck Tingle actually made the final nominations? That's ... impressive in a way."

Anonymous Stephen J. April 30, 2016 12:21 PM  

@11: "1) its all a performance... in which case... he's a complete lunatic."

On the other hand, he must be making some money from this. Probably more than most would expect. So if the fellow is crazy, it might well be in the vulpine mode.

Blogger Nick S April 30, 2016 12:22 PM  

1) its all a performance... in which case... he's a complete lunatic.

Because nobody's that smart.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 30, 2016 12:22 PM  

No way I can get to the Con this year, if I could I would be sure to have a T-shirt made with a large asterisk dead center and the words “Kiss My Asterisk”. Mandatory to wear to the awards ceremony.

Anonymous Weak April 30, 2016 12:50 PM  

I have little girls who watch My Little Pony. That episode is surprisingly quite good. Don't hate on it just because it's My Little Pony.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 30, 2016 1:03 PM  

I eagerly await the unleashing of the Were-Bronies when My Little Pony gets No Awarded.

Anonymous Wyrd April 30, 2016 1:04 PM  

Pounded In The Butt By The Other Guy

Blogger Harsh April 30, 2016 1:05 PM  

Don't hate on it just because it's My Little Pony.

Heh, that's funny...

Blogger D. G. D. Davidson April 30, 2016 1:31 PM  

Tsk. The title is "I'm Gay for my Living Billionaire Jet Plane." Let's show the Tingle some respect here.

Whatever Tingle is, he's not crazy, and he probably is making a decent wad of cash off this. Last I looked, "Slammed in the Butt by my Hugo Award Nomination" was an Amazon bestseller. He also probably knows, regardless of his actual opinion of the controversy, that he doesn't dare break character now that so many eyes are on him. He has no choice but to play along.

I think, from watching him, that he is on neither side. Tingle is on Tingle's own side, and he's cashing in on it. Both his recent works are satires of the Puppy/CHORF conflict, but they seem to be presented in such a way as to allow more than one interpretation.

@15 Id say they didn't want to risk bringing the bronies into it...

Most of the Bronies I've known would side with the SJWs. Is the My Little Pony episode really supposed to be a troll? It was also on the Sad Puppies list, and that list was crowdsourced. I assumed it was sincere. My Little Pony G4 has really had some good stuff in it. I haven't seen the episode in question because I finally got over my pony addiction about a year and a half back, but it doesn't seem at all strange to me that it might deserve a Hugo.

Blogger FALPhil April 30, 2016 1:34 PM  

That conversation was freakin' hilarious. Just goes to prove that fact is funnier than fiction.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 30, 2016 1:51 PM  

D. G. D. Davidson :
The episode in question is all about standing up to SJW bullies, rejecting groupthink, and breaking out of the warren.

Anti-puppies have the options of endorsing it despite the message and the provenance, or rejecting it and risking both defections and the wrath of the bronies.

I'm betting on their missing the point, again, and trying to Noah Ward it. Which will be epic.

Anonymous Noah Ward April 30, 2016 1:59 PM  

Wonder if the Hugo SJW’s will hand out asterisks this year?

What if they gave one to Tingle?

Anonymous Determinator April 30, 2016 2:01 PM  

@21 And anyone who isn't aware, the MLP episode isn't a troll. It is actually that good. This isn't the same MLP we grew up with in the 80's, MLP:FIM is a decent show in itself, but that episode is excellent; like a cross between Wrinkle in Time and 1984.

OpenID cirsova April 30, 2016 2:04 PM  

Like I said on my site: "it’s strange seeing the folks wailing about My Little Pony getting a nod, considering short form is almost always full of comic book shows and Dr. Who. Because god knows that a cartoon is going to taint the prestige of something frequently given to a reboot of a crusty old children show from 50 years ago."

Anonymous Noah Ward April 30, 2016 2:10 PM  

Wonder if the Hugo SJW’s will hand out asterisks this year?

What if they gave one to Chuck Tingle? That would have to be good for at least one new title. “Slammed in the Butt by my Asterisk”, maybe.

Anonymous Boogeyman April 30, 2016 2:17 PM  

Tingle should be Trump's poet laureate.

Blogger SciVo April 30, 2016 2:22 PM  

OT: Trump Derangement Syndrome has Mexicans openly admitting their hostility to America.

Anonymous Smile Of The Shadow April 30, 2016 3:00 PM  

Hilarious. Another thing that differentiates humans from SJWs: the ability to laugh at oneself.

Blogger Krul April 30, 2016 3:03 PM  

"VD: I'm a little alarmed to hear you've actually read that.

OG: Yeah, well, you're the one who knows the guy's name.

VD: Touche'."


Was expecting OG to say "Yeah, well you're the one who nominated him for a Hugo award."

Blogger Nick S April 30, 2016 3:05 PM  

Maybe BGKBS, Milo and others can breath a new kind of life into a Je suis Charlie campaign. It has multiple triggering potentials.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 30, 2016 3:13 PM  

D. G. D. Davidson wrote:Most of the Bronies I've known would side with the SJWs.

Bronydom is a blue pill community. However...it is not converged, and I believe they could be turned.

Disclaimer: I like the show but my knowledge of brony culture is secondhand because I can't stand fan cultures.

Anonymous Very Simple April 30, 2016 3:16 PM  

The Globalist Elite are Pedophiles or use such.
Very Simple.
You know...for those who cannot spiritually follow along.

Blogger Dave April 30, 2016 3:56 PM  

Damn, Chuck Tingle just unfollowed his one and only Twitter follow "taylor swifts" and is now following...







"KATYS PERRY"

Anonymous Leonidas April 30, 2016 4:01 PM  

@4:

I'm betting they still haven't watched the episode and therefore have no idea what we've actually done.

More likely they're just so delusional that they can't understand that the episode could possibly be about them.

Anonymous FitzRobert April 30, 2016 4:57 PM  

@Dave

Yes, CT just trolled the hell out of Twitter. Started tweeting last night about "withdrawing" and built up his big announcement. Genius.

Not that I could ever consider getting on board with Katy Perry over Taylor Swift...

Blogger JDC April 30, 2016 5:09 PM  

i do believe next year its time to rebrand the RabidPuppies.

No way Jose. The first one hurt like a bear.

Anonymous Man of the Atom April 30, 2016 5:22 PM  

FitzRobert wrote:@Dave

Yes, CT just trolled the hell out of Twitter. Started tweeting last night about "withdrawing" and built up his big announcement. Genius.

Not that I could ever consider getting on board with Katy Perry over Taylor Swift...


I wouldn't want to be N.K. Jemisin's cardiologist. With these ups and downs Chuck must be creating for her, she'll be tapped to play the Redd Foxx role in the all-woman reprise of "Sanford & Son", but with a real heart condition.

"Elizabeth! I'm comin' to join ya, with a raptor slammin' my butt!"

Anonymous Mr. Rational April 30, 2016 5:30 PM  

They could write Jemisin's demise as a variation in the script of every show, and when it happens they could actually run it.  Such a pity that John Ritter didn't have such an opportunity.

Blogger pbuxton April 30, 2016 9:20 PM  

Go to Derpiboo.ru, the image posting board just for MLP (and specifically explicit-friendly, though they do block non-Safe images until you log in or click on those images) and look through the tags: "adventure in the comments", "drama in the comments", "social justice warrior", "feminism" or "feminist".

Bronies are not converged. SJWs are a loud minority, but, as often noted in those comments, "brony" was coined on 4chan and they have much of the resistance one might expect of /b/ and anonymous.

Bronies seem egalitarian-oriented. Actual misogyny is not upvoted, unless it is an integrated part of a larger dramatic or comedic story. (Under the rule: it's easier to enjoy Darth Vader's general badassness when you know the bad guys are gonna lose.) Misandric pictures get voted down. It's acceptable to upload images involved in a controversy from off-site (and almost all pics originate off-site) but just creating anti-feminist/SJW/MRA pics and uploading them is frowned upon and will be downvoted.

There is even one comic entire devoted to mocking SJWs and feminazis, Ask Fury Belle:

(sfw) https://derpiboo.ru/566409

Blogger pbuxton April 30, 2016 11:05 PM  

If you'd like to see what the Earth version of Fred Saberhagen's "goodlife" looks like, try the Ted Anderson tag:

https://derpiboo.ru/tags/ted+anderson

example: https://derpiboo.ru/729980

Anderson wrote for the IDW My Little Pony comics, until his misandric self-hatred lulled him into stepping on a fandom land mine. But it seems he's writing for them again. His latest effort, which touches on teenage single motherhood (in effect, Twilight and Spike) is critiqued here.

Anonymous Ahmad ibn Fadlan May 01, 2016 10:11 PM  

@48 @49 - pbuxton, Interesting site but confusing. How do you follow a comic?

And I couldn't find any Hugo discussion. How do you think some friendly, low-key outreach would go over there?

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