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Monday, April 04, 2016

Cruz snaking Trump delegates

Keep this in mind when you hear Republicans pontificate about democracy and the will of the people:
Sen. Ted Cruz is out-hustling Donald Trump and looks set to ensure many Arizona delegates will defect to him in a convention floor fight. The Texas senator, who ever since Iowa has played a stealthy ground game in contrast to Trump's chaotic populism, is taking steps to snatch the Republican presidential nomination from The Donald at the convention in July.

The New York businessman easily won last month's Arizona primary taking 47 percent to Cruz's 25 percent, scooping up all 58 of the state's delegates. That's nearly 5 percent of the 1,237 Trump needs for the nomination, and they're tied are to him on the first ballot.

But Cruz, exploiting deep opposition to Trump among grassroots Republicans, has been far more active in Arizona than Trump, insiders say. He's recruiting candidates for the available 55 delegate slots, that along with the other three delegate positions filled by party leaders, would be allowed to vote for him in a multi-ballot contested convention.

"Cruz, out of all the campaigns, has the most folks on the ground and has been the most organized," Michael Noble, a Republican consultant in Arizona who is neutral, told the Washington Examiner on Friday. "Trump has no real organization in Arizona," added GOP strategist Sean Noble (no relation) in an email exchange. "Cruz will get most/all Arizona delegates on second ballot."
This is all according to the rules. The problem is that it is indicative of structural and institutional corruption, not that this comes as any surprise. Legality is not morality. Of course, if the Republican establishment doesn't like the Trump wind, they really won't enjoy reaping the nationalist whirlwind that is beginning to swirl even now.

What is alarming about this to me is the way it reveals the elite political establishment to be extraordinarily short-sighted. No wonder the Republicans have conserved nothing. Unlike the die-hard Left, they have no long-term strategy, only short-term tactics.

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Blogger Ruffin Stirling April 04, 2016 11:06 AM  

Being a Cruz supporter, I find this palatable, though I certainly understand the appeal of Trump. If I could know that Trump means what he says (or says most of the time)... I could go for a Trump/Cruz ticket, if that would ever happen.

Anonymous Faceless April 04, 2016 11:07 AM  

It's like that thing that lit up Twitter over the weekend:

Lowry speaking to the GOPe and donor class about how, regardless of what happens, we must ram through amnesty, now, in the Obama lame duck session, so that "nativists" are never allowed a voice again in American politics.

What exactly does he think La Raza Cosmica is going to do when their neo-nativism in America starts to coalesce as a result of this? Keep him as a house pet?

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 11:07 AM  

Here in PA it seems that conservative leaning working folks for the most part are ready to abandon the republicans if they do pull an attempt to substitute a wanker for the reform candidate (assuming Trump wins a plurality of the votes).

So one expects the result will be a new nationalist party, that kind of transcends the old republican-democrat divisions.

That said it all seems to late. We are blessed to live in interesting times.

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw April 04, 2016 11:09 AM  

"exploiting deep opposition to Trump among grassroots Republicans"

I hadn't realized that grassroots actually meant "cuckservative". I'll add it to my vocabulary.

Anonymous Faceless April 04, 2016 11:11 AM  

Ruffin Stirling wrote:Being a Cruz supporter, I find this palatable, though I certainly understand the appeal of Trump. If I could know that Trump means what he says (or says most of the time)... I could go for a Trump/Cruz ticket, if that would ever happen.

That ticket is basically an impossibility at this point unless Michael Savage can put it together in the back room of a nice restaurant.

Trump supporters similarly do not believe Sen. Cruz can be relied on to mean what he says. The soccer balls, the teddy bears, the support of massive H1-B increases -- all in his solitary term as US Senator - are too recent reminders of the malleability of Ted's beliefs.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer April 04, 2016 11:11 AM  

As near as I can figure, the GOPe strategy seems to be Hosea 8:7.

They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. The stalk has no head; it will produce no flour. Were it to yield grain, foreigners would swallow it up.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados April 04, 2016 11:12 AM  

Trump isn't dumb, he's accounted for this when he got into the election. He clearly knows about the splitter strategy. Cruz has revealed himself as a fraud, and Trump has single-handedly revealed most of the "conservative" media to be frauds as well.

The two biggest things about Cruz--his marital infidelity and how that ties into illegal campaign donations--are already out there. Of course there's also the legality of his running, but it's very transparent now that Cruz was always a RINO and controlled opposition. His shifty tactics in Iowa blew up in his face with South Carolina where he got stomped. The RNC thinks it can steal the election from the electorate, but I have a feeling that something is going to broadside them that's going to completely destroy their last chance to screw the American public out of their preferred candidate.

Anonymous ticticboom April 04, 2016 11:12 AM  

They really haven't thought through what will happen when enough people realize how rigged the game is.

No doubt the fools will be surprised when people start polling from the rooftops.

Anonymous Broken Arrow April 04, 2016 11:13 AM  

Faceless wrote:
What exactly does he think La Raza Cosmica is going to do when their neo-nativism in America starts to coalesce as a result of this? Keep him as a house pet?


From what I can tell the elites envision a world in which the top 1% fly private jets from well guarded compounds to well guarded compounds while the great unwashed continue to go unwashed. It's an insane idea historically because eventually the peasants really do storm the castle and are willing to take horrific losses in the process.



Blogger Nate April 04, 2016 11:17 AM  

Tactically and Strategically... Ted is running a fantastic campaign

Blogger RC April 04, 2016 11:19 AM  

I had occasion this past weekend to interact with several people who'd be rightfully considered rednecks. I was utterly astonished at their grasp of realpolitik, their fairly accurate view of a number of economic issues, their grounded view of the political landscape, their anger at being sold out by the power brokers, and their deep-seated nationalism. I left the conversation enthused.

Blogger allyn71 April 04, 2016 11:19 AM  

More faster please. I am not getting any younger and the system is irredeemable. Burn Motherf*%$er, Burn.

Blogger Drew Ogle April 04, 2016 11:19 AM  

Nate, fantastic in what sense, an entire fantasy?

So you don't believe Vox's axiom on the ultra-nationalists?

Blogger Unknown April 04, 2016 11:20 AM  

The "great unwashed" will make their _own_ castles, and lock the gates in the face of the self-appointed 1% when the dundu-nuffins the 1% lead around by the nose come to hang them from the lamp posts.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 04, 2016 11:21 AM  

I didn't realize that the delegates aren't really bound by the will of the people except for the first ballot. And the delegates can be appointed by the establishment, at least in some states.

But no worries. The Donald's gonna win this before the convention.

Blogger Alexander April 04, 2016 11:21 AM  

This all rests on the assumption that people will be all "aww shucks, well them's the [archaic, inside-baseball] rules, so I guess you win! Now, where do we sign up to make sure we hit the R button for MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVER."

They can do what they want. But if the Republicans think that a win on a technicality earns them goodwill and legitimacy, they've got another think coming.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 04, 2016 11:21 AM  

How in heaven's name do you expect to win the general, even against Hillary, after a second vote delegate steal?

Blogger Jourdan April 04, 2016 11:23 AM  

I agree, Nate: FANTASTIC campaign. It's fantastic that my people are discovering the hard way that electoral politics are a fool's game at this point--we don't have the numbers to prevail--and that there is no legal way for them to express their discontent.

Gracias, Rafael! Gracias!

Anonymous VFM #6036 April 04, 2016 11:26 AM  

Ya snooze, ya Cruz. I wouldn't mind foreign rule if Cruz simply acted more like a Canadian than a Cuban.

Blogger Alexander April 04, 2016 11:27 AM  

"Sir, I have some bad news, the provinces are in rebellion!"

"It will die down soon enough," Caesar placated, "for there is no procedure for the Britons or Gauls to claim independence from Rome."

"But your highness, the peasants are revolting!"

"Toot true," King George III merely chuckled. "But tell me," he sneered, "where in the book of laws does it say they may do this?"

"It doesn't," the functionary replied.

"Precisely," Louis XVI replied. "And therefore, it will not happen."

The functionary nodded. "I suppose that makes sense."

Comrade Gorbachev nodded. "Once the masses realize that venting their frustrations is not the proper order, they will cease doing so."

The functionary nodded once more.

"Now, go and get me those Arizona delegates. What's the worst that could happen?"

Blogger CarpeOro April 04, 2016 11:28 AM  

Perhaps my memory fails me, but I vaguely remember Ron Paul supporters being vilified (by the establishment/elite) for doing something similar?

Blogger Gaiseric April 04, 2016 11:33 AM  

Ruffin Stirling wrote:Being a Cruz supporter, I find this palatable, though I certainly understand the appeal of Trump. If I could know that Trump means what he says (or says most of the time)... I could go for a Trump/Cruz ticket, if that would ever happen.
Palatable? It's palatable for Cruz to do something that is legal yet sure to offend the electorate? Because you like him better than Trump?

That's exactly the short-sightedness the OP is referring to, you realize? That can get you the nomination, maybe, but what then?

Blogger Sam Lively April 04, 2016 11:35 AM  

Cruz pissing off everyone to hog the spotlight before going down in flames would be classic Cruz.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 11:37 AM  

Nate,

What is the strategic brilliance of Cruz's campaign? Here in PA he seems to be a very damaged candidate. If he does manage to get the nomination, without the most primary votes, I fear his victory will have been a pyrrhic one, as it seems a lot of the dem-leaning voters who came in for trump and republican voters have been turned off by Cruz.

At least that is how it appears in Yankee land. Might be different in the rest of the nation. please do elaborate, as in do not assume that something that seems obvious where you live applies. I could well be wrong, but would like to understand how.

Thanks in advance.

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 04, 2016 11:39 AM  

"exploiting deep opposition to Trump among grassroots Republicans" = Lügenpresse newspeak.

"Grassroots repukes" to the scribblers of the Lügenpresse translates as hedge-fund crooks whose favorite stuffed toy is pedo-bear. Such folks are the reason why a Vlad Tepes is really needed more than a Trump. They and their mouthpieces like Lowry need to be transfigured into lawn art.

Anonymous DE-173/Code19/Vox Nox April 04, 2016 11:45 AM  

"Legality is not morality."

So true. Should be enscribed in the SCOTUS building, or displayed above the bench.

Blogger pyrrhus April 04, 2016 11:46 AM  

"Tactically and Strategically... Ted is running a fantastic campaign."

Yep, Ted's only problem is that everyone thinks he's a dishonest creep, and everyone knows he's a Goldman puppet.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 04, 2016 11:46 AM  

For all of you wondering how the GOP leadership expect to win in the general against Hillary after an epic shafting of the base, it's very simple. They don't.

They have their orders. What do you think Cruz and Heinz Kissinger talked about a couple years ago? Do you remember Cruz' caption? What it said?

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook April 04, 2016 11:47 AM  

Is anyone really surprised that an adulterous establishment politician went behind the voters backs?

Anonymous Athor Pel April 04, 2016 11:47 AM  

Not only does Nate need to put a photo of him wearing an OSU cap on his blog but he's been earning the king-of-all-trolls cap in almost every Republican primary comment thread.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 04, 2016 11:49 AM  

This is why adultery is a crime in the military.

Blogger S1AL April 04, 2016 11:51 AM  

@Sam - Cruz is playing to his strengths brilliantly. He's working the system, handling the media attacks by redirecting them, and continues to challenge Trump to a 1v1 debate. That last one is probably the best - Cruz has the debate chops to win if he can force Trump to move away from rhetoric, and if Trump continues to refuse it makes him look scared.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 04, 2016 11:52 AM  

So many schemes from the elites to keep Donald Trump from building a wall on the Mexican border.

So many heads that will end up on pikes should they succeed.

Blogger Timmy3 April 04, 2016 11:53 AM  

"This is all according to the rules." Yes, these are the rules so why isn't Trump running a grassroot campaign. While Trump is willing at the grassroots level, they is failing at the ground game from running a national campaign. He isn't doing the due diligence of winning at the convention. This may still be irrelevant if Trump wins a majority of the delegates, but there is no assurance this will happen. The fact that Cruz can win loyal delegates shows Cruz's popularity of regular conservatives who are unpersuaded by Trump's libertarian and liberal leanings. You can't blame this on the Republican establishment who hasn't supported Cruz yet. Let's be clear, there's no guarantee this will work. Clinton's locked up delegates are showing some disloyalty. Sanders is showing some spine in breaking up Clinton's advantage. Trump may yet prevail, but he needs to spend some money and time playing the game. He needs to also figure out how abortion policy works. (Clinton has that same problem recently.)

Blogger Mark April 04, 2016 11:58 AM  

I thought Trump uses rules like bankruptcy to his advantage and that's a strength for him? He whines until he gets what he wants and screws everyone else wherever he can to get ahead.

If this is according to the rules, and is advantageous for Cruz, how does this not strengthen Cruz in the eyes of Trump supporters?

Blogger tz April 04, 2016 11:58 AM  

Cruz is so popular he needs to do these underhanded things that everyone considers part of the corruption problem to insure his nomination.

Anonymous Ain April 04, 2016 12:01 PM  

Trump's "chaotic" populism? Oh right, all the provocateurs sent to disrupt his rallies are all his fault. He's supposed to quit.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 04, 2016 12:04 PM  

What else would we expect from The Anointed King of America, Felito the Looter I?

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 April 04, 2016 12:04 PM  

@7 I doubt Trump anticipated this. Which expert on GOP Convention politics did he hire prior to his run? While I don't agree with the hit job that Trump wanted a respectable second, I don't think he expected to go as far as he has.

I mean 538 had a take down in IL where in one district 2 of his delegates had double non-anglo names and they had thousands less votes cast for them than his anglo named delegate. They claimed it cost him 4 delegates in IL, I scrubbed through the data and can say it probably did cost him 2 delegates in IL.

It is clear zero thought was put into his delegate selection and he was just using some of the usual suspects many of whom are just machine republicans like the Norwood Park Township supervisor or the IL general assemblyman. I don't know when he needed to have his delegates selected by but how hard would it have been to dig up some qualified registered republicans that have donated $250+ to his campaign?

Personally I don't have a problem with the way Cruz is trying to play this, but he is a day late and a dollar short. While he is busy poaching Trump's guys for a second ballot vote, the GOPe has already gotten 300+ of his guys to defect for Kasich or to broker Rubio back in. Rubio incidentally has not endorsed any candidate so his guys are clearly working towards the brokered convention.

Anonymous Bondage, Junk Bondage April 04, 2016 12:07 PM  

@2 Faceless

Do you have a link, perchance? Would be interesting to have a look at that.

Blogger Teri April 04, 2016 12:10 PM  

@32,

No one cares if Cruz can out debate Trump. We are not trying to hire a debating champion. We want someone that can lead the country. All Cruz does is talk and lecture. He has an actual record as a Senator. Tell me what you think he's actually DONE during his time there.

The only people that seem to be hard core Cruz are folks that somehow think he is a "principled conservative". Somehow they are able to overlook that he is totally an establishment insider.

Anonymous VFM #7916 April 04, 2016 12:11 PM  

Game assumptions:

1. Trump is not a fool.
2. Trump has excellent advisors working for him, who are aware of these machinations.
3. Trump has identified the establishment elite within the party as the true opponent.
4. In its current form, the establishment cannot be destroyed as of yet, so they must be dissuaded from fighting.
5. As internal tactics and strategies of the establishment become clear and immortalized on the internet the greater the disillusionment becomes within the parties.
6. Dissuasion from conflict can come by the certainty of MAD.
7. Trump can initiate MAD, and his supporters have the will to fight.
8. If he's crony'd out of the nomination, I think Trump will initiate MAD.
9. After MAD, then 3rd party, in congressional and then 2020.
10. Because why not? Lion looks way better than elephant or donkey.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados April 04, 2016 12:16 PM  

@39

He most certainly went into this planned and expecting to do well. It's clear with Christie defecting to his side (or was he always on Trump's side) that he was aware of the splitter strategy (which the GOPe has now had to openly admit is their strategy) and has for the most part successfully turned it against the GOPe.

Cruz is only still in the game because Jeb's (and others) campaign backers are now backing him...even though he still sends out emails about how he won't take lobbyist money and only donations from average voters. Clearly, that isn't panning out for him because othewise his campaign would already be broke. And because Rubio collapsed, they are desperate to use Cruz, the problem is that it's incredibly transparent now.

Trump has exposed the fraudulence in our political and media system. That's perhaps his biggest victory in all of this. Everyone has had to take off their masks and show where their loyalty really lies. Paul Ryan now has a primary challenger for later this year. That can't be a coincidence. Ryan may lose his job to a grassroots guy similar to Trump.

The establishment is desperate. It's old and weak, and obsolete. We don't need or want them anymore. They can do what we elected them to do, or, to quote Trump, there's going to be riots in the streets if he don't get the nomination....

Blogger Zen Trader April 04, 2016 12:18 PM  

Ruffin Stirling wrote:Being a Cruz supporter, I find this palatable, though I certainly understand the appeal of Trump. If I could know that Trump means what he says (or says most of the time)... I could go for a Trump/Cruz ticket, if that would ever happen.

Cruz doesn't have broad enough appeal to win the general election. Plus, if Trump gets robbed of the nomination, a large portion of his supporters will walk.

It appears handing the Presidency and at least two SCOTUS seats to the Democrats is what passes for strategy in the RNC. As much as this pains me to say, the Democrats are smarter than we are! They actually have a long term strategy, and they don't bother listening to enemy propaganda. They don't just up and decide to trust the other side like Reagan did Tip O'Neill on immigration.

The fact is that they have a philosophy that has been proven NOT to work in the real world, and they're still winning the game. What we're seeing now are "the people" stopping and asking themselves why.

-Infiltration of opinion influencing industries (education, media, entertainment)

-Demographic gerrymandering

-Compromise as many groups as possible with government money, creating too many dependents who will fight spending cuts, even when sorely needed

Easy, really. Now, what do we do about all this? I have some ideas, but it seems like we're coming into the game in the 4th quarter down 35 points. Trump is like our Favre - wild, but crazy talented and tough as nails.

Blogger 1337kestrel April 04, 2016 12:20 PM  

Ya know... among the other reasons Vox has given for preferring Trump over Nixonian hustler Cruz, I think being in Italy is a big factor.

Cruz supporters have a much bigger offline community, which someone outside the country would have no exposure to. Where do you think all these grassroots operatives come from? They are people working the streets just like Trumpkins are working the internet.

Blogger 1337kestrel April 04, 2016 12:21 PM  

Trump is like our Favre

Are you trying to jinx him?

Blogger Mark April 04, 2016 12:22 PM  

@44 "Cruz doesn't have broad enough appeal to win the general election. Plus, if Trump gets robbed of the nomination, a large portion of his supporters will walk."

Trump is getting stomped vs. Hillary in National and state polls. You simply cannot criticize Cruz on polls and excuse Trump if you want to stick to facts.

Blogger horsewithnonick April 04, 2016 12:23 PM  

Oh, it isn't the campaign strategy that is lacking, it's a plan for the point that a significant number of people are no longer mollified by the appearance of representative government, and form the Torches And Pitchforks Party.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 12:24 PM  

S1AL and Mark

From where I sit it seems to me that the time for debate is past. The folks that have decided for Trump are decided, the folks that have decided for Cruz have decided. I believe both are sincere in their beliefs why their pick is the best reform candidate.

That said Cruz has done and is doing something's that do not really allow from Trump supporters to come over to him if he manages to get the nomination without getting more actual primary voters than trump. As he is 2 million behind at this point, it does not look like he can pull ahead in actual votes.

Where I live the average Trump supporter has a very dim view of Cruz. No doubt Cruz fights hard and would be a formidable candidate against Hillary, but in his scorched earth tactics he has alienated the other population of non-establishment voters.

At this point if Trump does not get the nomination the republicans are better off running a third candidate, who incorporates Trumps plank (jobs come back, pro-nationalist, deport the illegals, stay pout of wars, fiscal conservative) rather than Cruz. Cruz has simply damaged his own brand too much to even do as well as Romney in the next election, at least here in the Northeast part of the country.

Unless Cruz can get more popular votes (not delegates) by the convention. I think if he can somehow swing that (unlikely) he would be accepted by the Trump primary voters. Any other way and he will lead the republicans to a massive defeat.

In any case because of this, I do not see him as brilliant, but short sighted and some what off balance. Not a good candidate 9nto that we have any)

Blogger CM April 04, 2016 12:29 PM  

@6

That verse is incredibly apropos as Hosea was the ultimate, God-ordained Cuck to illustrate Jerusalem's whoredom.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 12:31 PM  

One last comment to post 49: none of this is an endorsement of Trump, just an observation that Cruz is very damaged. I well understand how a lot of folks distrust Trump and could be for Cruz.

Blogger YIH April 04, 2016 12:32 PM  

TheLiberatorOfBados:
Cruz has revealed himself as a fraud, and Trump has single-handedly revealed most of the "conservative" media to be frauds as well.
Nearly all of talk radio has openly been taking sides - most of them for Cruz.
Rush has been alternately been accused of both being pro-Cruz and pro-Trump.
I've heard Hannity, he's stated it on his radio show that he is officially neutral on the GOP race - and I believe him, his (radio and TV) show is guest-driven, if he picks a side, he gets hung up on by potential guests.
I've said all along I suspect the GOPe will do whatever it takes to steal the nomination away from Trump and stack the deck to ensure the primaries become window dressing only. As in adopting the ''Super delegate'' format that will likely coronate The Lizard Queen regardless of what (((Bernie Sanders))) does...
Short of literal back-stabbing, of course.

Blogger Steve Moss April 04, 2016 12:34 PM  

Trump wins no matter what happens.

If he becomes the Republican nominee, he wins.

If he gets the most votes, but isn't the Republican nominee, then the GOPe will be crushed in the general election. In the minds of the Republican rank and file, they'll rue the fact that Trump was not the nominee. And he'll be perceived as the winner that the party elite stabbed in the back.

I think Trump knows this. The Trump name will be viewed as a winner, regardless of the end result this election cycle.

Blogger Mark April 04, 2016 12:36 PM  

@49 Uh, Cruz has taken a better position than Trump on immigration. Trump is talking about deporting all illegals and then bringing back the "good ones". Cruz isn't talking about bringing anyone back.

Blogger dienw April 04, 2016 12:38 PM  

The GOPelites have - not are - destroyed any semblance of honest elections or even the value of voting: the two party system is dead; the concept that the people can vote for the candidate of their choice is dead; we the people - if we ever were the "People" - are irrelevant in deciding our leadership: the leadership of this nation is therefor illegitimate.

The smoke filled backroom never went away; it was simply hidden by a smokescreen; now we see the reality.

Blogger Teri April 04, 2016 12:40 PM  

Cruz handed out teddy bears and soccer balls to illegals. He has about the same immigration policy that Kasich does. Look at how he votes, not what he says.

Anonymous TLM April 04, 2016 12:40 PM  

I just can't understand the appeal of Cruz. He literally sounds like he has a dick wedged up each nostril.

Anonymous a_peraspera April 04, 2016 12:40 PM  

But we know that Cruz doesn't mean it and doesn't actually intend to deport anyone.

Blogger dienw April 04, 2016 12:42 PM  

The two biggest things about Cruz--his marital infidelity and how that ties into illegal campaign donations--are already out there.

The reprobates pushing Cruz know this. They don't care. They have been given over to a great delusion.

OpenID paworldandtimes April 04, 2016 12:42 PM  

My fictional scenario of Trump getting cheated out of the election and the epic events that follow is HERE.

Warning: it's long.

PA

Anonymous Karl Rove's Left Buttock April 04, 2016 12:45 PM  

No wonder the Republicans have conserved nothing

What do you mean? We've conserved a lot of fine jobs in the Acela corridor. Why, I've conserved quite a lot of money all by myself.

Blogger praetorian April 04, 2016 12:47 PM  

But Cruz, exploiting deep opposition to Trump among grassroots Republicans

AHAHAHAHAHAAHA.

If so, burn it to the ground. Also, if not so. Whatever.

Blogger CM April 04, 2016 12:48 PM  

@54
In 2013, Sen. Cruz proposed amendments to the “Gang of 8” bill that would strengthen border security, expand green card opportunities, increase high-skilled “H1B” visas, prevent illegal aliens from receiving welfare benefits, and enforce the rule of law.

From Ted Cruz's website

While Trump says he'll let them back in LEGALLY, he also says he's going to make it harder to get back in legally.

Blogger Old Ez April 04, 2016 12:53 PM  

The LT strategy of conservatives is concession.

Anonymous Be Not Afraid April 04, 2016 12:54 PM  

>Cruz pissing off everyone to hog the spotlight before going down in flames would be classic Cruz.

I have this image of Denethor's leap off the tower from Jackson's RotK.

In the end, the GOPe is finished. If Trump wins out, the GOPe will either be broken immediately, or broken later when the GOP-led Congress stops any Trump legislation. If Trump wins the nomination and loses the general, the GOPe will be blamed for crippling him. If Trump has the nomination stolen from him, there will be massive defections and the GOP may lose not only the White House, but the House of Representatives and maybe even the Senate. Could be a Dem sweep. But Lowry will still get to sip his daiquiris at All the Right Social Events.

Interesting times, interesting times. But as the priest said in church yesterday, how it all ends is already written.

Anonymous Steve April 04, 2016 12:54 PM  

Ted Cruz's thinking that people are desperate to see yet another tedious debate between him and Trump is revealing.

Do Americans want a talker, or a doer?

My guess is the latter, so I suspect Ted's on a hiding to nothing with this line of attack.

Even if he gets his debate, the best outcome he can reasonably expect is to score a few points over Trump in that long-winded lawyerly way Cruz has. And then what? Does Ted really think lots of voters are likely to change their minds at this point based on MOAR TALK?

"Debate me like a man", said no red-blooded normal American ever.

Anonymous BGKB April 04, 2016 12:55 PM  

Trump seems more determined to highlight crony whorism in politics than to win. Even his abortion blunder caused the mask to slip on supposed pro lifers. His ugly truth mirror strategy, could include winning the votes but having the cuckGOPe delegates he won vote against him. If he doesn't win he will take every false pretense down with him.

What exactly does he think La Raza Cosmica is going to do when their neo-nativism in America starts to coalesce as a result of this?

Vicente Fox's aide said that republicans wanted open borders so they could get the client-patron form of govt, to ennoble politicians that the Hamilton/Jacksonian straightjacket the founders created prevents. After all white hidalgos rule over brown peasants in Mexico.

Trump is talking about deporting all illegals and then bringing back the "good ones". Cruz isn't talking about bringing anyone back

The reason Fred Reed couldn't pick up 12yo Mexican girls in his van was Cruz was handing out better gift baskets to illegals.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/04/02/palin-turns-heads-with-cruzbeck-dig-about-seducing-illegals-with-gift-baskets-324158

Burn Motherf*%$er, Burn. I thought the campaign slogan was Bern Motherf*%$er, Bern.

The fact that Cruz can win loyal delegates shows Cruz's popularity of On the take, pay for play establishment shills.

Cruz supporters have a much bigger offline community, which someone outside the country would have no exposure to

True no gay would invite both Vox and Cruz out to dinner. If you want dinner with Milo you have to pay http://time.com/3838133/gay-rights-ted-cruz-dinner-ian-reisner-mati-weiderpass/

They are people working the streets just like Trumpkins are working the internet.

White guy paid $3500 for one day protesting Trump, while Jeb! only paid $25 to attend JEB! rallies.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis April 04, 2016 12:55 PM  

This is GOPs last chance in regards for keeping me in the fold. After 2012 I went and voted libertarian for the presidential but continued to vote for the republican in local elections. I am getting ready to officially change my voter status and send in a letter to the GOP leader of my state (not that it will do any good). I sincerely hope that, if the GOP is so stupid as to steal the nomination from Trump, that he runs as an independent with his own party.

The death of the Whigs brought about the Republicans and so, perhaps, the death of the Republicans will bring about a real patriot political party.

Blogger praetorian April 04, 2016 12:55 PM  

Nate, fantastic in what sense, an entire fantasy?

Nate is commenting on the political competence of Cruz, not his chances for winning (he's already said Trump will win) It's hard to disagree: Cruz is very technically competent at the process of electioneering.

How else could a cubanuck who looks like a sketch of the platonic ideal of a used car salesman be the only semi-viable competition to The Master Persuader?

So you don't believe Vox's axiom on the ultra-nationalists?

I would bet that he is counting on it.

Blogger kurt9 April 04, 2016 12:58 PM  

I do not know if the GOP establishment is deluded enough to believe they can carry on as status quo or if they simply do not give a rat's ass what the rank and file and normal people think about things. Either way it is not good for the party. I think any shenanigans on the part of the GOP establishment to eliminate Trump will have nasty repercussions for the GOP (like bringing about an end to the party).

Blogger Sean April 04, 2016 12:59 PM  

I have a hard time imagining the same thing being said of Trump if the roles were reversed. If it was Trump working the back end of the situation and using the preestablished rules to gain victory it would be headlined that Trump is proving his wily business smarts to cuck the establishment.

I think this further sheds light on my opinion that the Trump campaign can win the media battle but is going to lose the election war to the opposition because his campaign does not have the ground game to even compete against the lefts machine.

OpenID denektenorsk April 04, 2016 1:01 PM  

Wait, wait, wait! I thought Ted Cruz was the *principled* constitutional conservative.

Far be it from me to disparage a fellow Canadian but over the past few months I get the 'used car salesman' vibe off him.

Seriously though, all is fair in love and war (and politics). It behoves him to prepare for a possible outcome (e.g. Trump doesn't get the 1237).

Blogger Sam Lively April 04, 2016 1:05 PM  

BGKB wrote:Trump seems more determined to highlight crony whorism in politics than to win. Even his abortion blunder caused the mask to slip on supposed pro lifers. His ugly truth mirror strategy, could include winning the votes but having the cuckGOPe delegates he won vote against him. If he doesn't win he will take every false pretense down with him.

I've been calling him Samson from the beginning. I want him to make it all the way to the White House, but if the ultimate betrayal ends up coming from the GOP, bringing down that establishment is service enough.

OpenID denektenorsk April 04, 2016 1:06 PM  

White guy paid $3500 for one day protesting Trump, while Jeb! only paid $25 to attend JEB! rallies.

The $3500 guy proved to be satire. His name was Paul Horner, which is a wink the author throws in everytime he writes a piece. If you see Paul Horner, you are reading satire.

There were people who were paid $15/hour to protest Trump however. $15/hour is the magic # this year.

Blogger Nate April 04, 2016 1:08 PM  

"Nate, fantastic in what sense, an entire fantasy?

So you don't believe Vox's axiom on the ultra-nationalists?"

I mean Cruz is playing the game at an extremely high level. He's killing Trump with a thousand papercuts that most people don't even see happening.

For example.. Trump won lousianna.. but it was close so both he and cruz were supposed to get the same number of delegates. Except Cruz went behind Trump and outflanked him. Cruz ended up getting more delegates than Trump.. and almost all of the voting positions on the rules committee for that state.

Trump simply has no idea how this game works. Ted... quite clearly does.

As for the ultranationsl Vox is warning about.. I'm afraid he's seeing america through european glasses.

Trump's appeal in america is actually not immigration. Its the perception that he's standing up to the PC bullies.

America has changed on immigration. No question. But not to the degree that Vox thinks. I should think that the fact that Cuckservative didn't make nearly the splash everyone thought it would should suffice to prove that.

The ultra nationalists aren't coming. They aren't next. Screwing over Trump would definitely be then end of the GOP... but it has nothing to do with ultra-nationalist looking to take over. And the people who took the place left by the GOP wouldn't be ultra nationalists. They would be mere nationalists. we're a few cycles away from the ultranationalists yet. We'll have to see a nationalist party form first. That hasn't even happened yet. this is just stage one... where the nationalist tries to work within the standard party system. Step 2 is a nationalist party. the ultra-nationals only show up with the nationalist party of step 2 has failed.

Blogger 1337kestrel April 04, 2016 1:15 PM  

I just had an epiphany... Cruz wants to be President, sure. But his more attainable fallback position is to take over the GOPe.

Blogger Felix Bellator April 04, 2016 1:17 PM  

To summarize Be Not Afraid, Trump = Xanatos Candidate.

Is it time for #NeverCruz? I agree he is running a good campaign given what he has. I was a supporter before Trump started shaking things up and before it started to slip what an Establishment sellout that Cruz really is. Cruz equals status quo, Trump equals X, and who know what X will really be. But it leans X != status quo.

Blogger Nate April 04, 2016 1:26 PM  

"Cruz equals status quo, Trump equals X, and who know what X will really be"

the trouble cruz isn't that he equals the status quo. The trouble with Cruz is no one has any idea WHAT is equals. The fact is Cruz could end up being better than Trump... or... he could end up being a complete disaster... depending on what his motivations truely are.

And as always the trouble with sigmas is we simply do not know what Cruz' intentions and motivations are.

Blogger Teri April 04, 2016 1:27 PM  

And this brings us back to the question: do we want only professional politicians to be able to attain office? The system wasn't set up that way. Obviously the professionals learn how to game the system.

Lost in last week was Trump hiring Paul Manafort. Notice that his partner Charlie Black, was hired by Kasich. Both men have experience in brokered conventions.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/04/01/delegate_hunter_manafort_brings_savvy_to_trump_camp_130167.html

Blogger Nate April 04, 2016 1:31 PM  

"But his more attainable fallback position is to take over the GOPe."

as Cruz' strategy becomes clearer... it becomes more and more obvious that he has more of a chance than he's being given credit for.

For example... remember Trump saying 1237 was "just some arbitrary number"? Well what happens if Trump gets that number.. but due to Cruz's behind the scenes work.. the rules committee (which is going to be controlled by Cruz delegates) raises that number to a super majority of say 1400?

and if you think something like that is over-the-line for a guy like Cruz... I would suggest that you should re-evaluate the man.

Best I can tell... the man is a cold-calculating pit fighter that is absolutely hell bent on beating Trump.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 1:34 PM  

Nice Explanation Nate,

I see your point as regards technical or tactical thinking.

But as regards strategically, Cruz lost the opportunity to make peace with Trump and be VP, which would have been a strong unifying ticket. Trump will be 70 this year, 74 after one term. Cruz would have had his chance in 4 years.


Now Cruz either wins or he is a pariah, there really is no other outlook for him. By win I mean not only the nomination, but the office of President. Very foolish of him, he was not looking long term. Needs to read his Sun-Tzu.


Mark,

While Cruz may have said some things that are strongly anti illegal, his actions in the 2013 amnesty bill sort of negate that. In any case the folks I know who are anti-immigration seem to be most strongly aligned with Trump at this point so even if ultimately Cruz has a stronger position. Not sure why but my best guess is as follows: While it is true trump was similar back then, it was trump this season that blazed the trail on immigration, Cruz seemed to follow in his wake once it was clear that was a popular position.

Blogger Lew Rand April 04, 2016 1:40 PM  

Well I hope the names of all the delegates and their votes become public record. For posterity sake of course.

On a side note, I don't care what I'm threatened with, I will never vote for Cruz. A man who can unabashedly blame Trump for the Brussels attack by implying it occurred because he questioned the need for NATO is too much of a slime for me.

Blogger Gaiseric April 04, 2016 1:44 PM  

Steve wrote:"Debate me like a man", said no red-blooded normal American ever.
Says the transAmerican.

Blogger Gaiseric April 04, 2016 1:46 PM  

Cogitans Iuvenis wrote:The death of the Whigs brought about the Republicans and so, perhaps, the death of the Republicans will bring about a real patriot political party.
The death of the Whigs is over-stated. Due to the fact that the South obviously didn't vote during Lincoln's War, Lincoln was able to enact all of the Whigs platform—as a Republican—that they hadn't had the political clout to do as Whigs in the years prior. The early Republican party was more Whig-like than the Whigs themselves had been, at least in practice.

Blogger Scott April 04, 2016 1:47 PM  

Best I can tell... the man is a cold-calculating pit fighter that is absolutely hell bent on beating Trump.

At best Cruz is a proxy for a Paul Ryan coup d'état. It is only mathematically possible for Cruz to pull enough delegates. This will become clearer after the eastern state primaries pile heavy into Trumps corner.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 04, 2016 1:48 PM  

Assuming Trump has, say, 1199 votes going into the convention, how many votes do you think he'll get on the second ballot? If it's less than 1199, that just seems weird.

Blogger Sam Lively April 04, 2016 1:49 PM  

@80 Nate

Does Cruz have the backroom muscle to take over the rules committee? I'd think the Ryan-bots that screwed over Ron Paul in 2012 would still exert disproportionate influence.

I know the people who are the Cruz army on the ground here in Cali. They are the same conservatives who have been getting screwed over by the establishment for ages - the people who went McClintock over Schwarzenegger, Alan Keyes over Bush in 2000 and Huckabee/Santorum in the last 2 rounds.

I've never known them to be capable of pulling off a coup in smoke-filled rooms.

All that to say, I doubt the loyalty of the more cutthroat operators currently helping Cruz at the party level.

Blogger Gaiseric April 04, 2016 1:51 PM  

Cogitans Iuvenis wrote:The death of the Whigs brought about the Republicans and so, perhaps, the death of the Republicans will bring about a real patriot political party.
The death of the Whigs is over-stated. Due to the fact that the South obviously didn't vote during Lincoln's War, Lincoln was able to enact all of the Whigs platform—as a Republican—that they hadn't had the political clout to do as Whigs in the years prior. The early Republican party was more Whig-like than the Whigs themselves had been, at least in practice.

Blogger praetorian April 04, 2016 1:52 PM  

The ultra nationalists aren't coming.

Welp, lost that bet...

Blogger Lew Rand April 04, 2016 1:53 PM  

@47 We could bring up Reagan at this point, but lets try this exercise.

Name a single state that Romney lost in 2012 that Cruz can win. His appeal outside the midwest seems lukewarm at best, with all his victories in non open primaries / caucuses.

Cruz (or whoever other than Trump) is already set up to be the noble loser to Clinton.

Anonymous gxg April 04, 2016 1:55 PM  

Even the Tea Party is going cuckservative.

Because I've donated to Tea Party organizations and candidates, I'm on several national mailing lists. From the Tea Party Patriots Citizen Fund, I'm getting pro-Cruz emails trashing Trump.

I unsubscribed and emailed them, calling them traitors for not only trashing Trump, but for directing so much fire at our own side, rather than at the real enemy, liberal Democrats.

This is part of what's so maddening. Even our own organizations betray us. And consider how stupid this is. Where will individual Tea Party folks go when they're betrayed? Well, one place is the alt-right. And people wonder why the alt-right is gaining steam? Sometimes, it's quite simply the fact that there's nowhere else to go, not if you want to ensure that your children and grandchildren don't grow up in a third-world hellhole.

Blogger Mark April 04, 2016 1:59 PM  

@63 @54
In 2013, Sen. Cruz proposed amendments to the “Gang of 8” bill that would strengthen border security, expand green card opportunities, increase high-skilled “H1B” visas, prevent illegal aliens from receiving welfare benefits, and enforce the rule of law.

Yep. While Trump was excoriating Romney for being too harsh on illegals for saying they'd self-deport, Cruz was agreeing with full deportation but making the legal process simpler, and increasing legal immigration. I don't know where he currently stands on the number of legal immigrants, but neither do I for Trump.

The only thing Trump has an edge on this for me is the halt on immigration from Muslim countries, but I don't really expect him to hold to that since he's been so "flexible" already.


While Trump says he'll let them back in LEGALLY, he also says he's going to make it harder to get back in legally.

Point me to the quote, I'd be happy to look at it.

Anonymous Snick April 04, 2016 2:04 PM  

Trump recently added the same delegate manager who successfully headed off the nearly identical attempts to deny both Ford and Reagan the nomination. This garbage has been going on for a LONG time.
Cruz also has the help of one of the worst of the corrupt, Mitch McConnell to help with the thievery of delegates. The GOPE is not going to go quietly, that is for certain.

Anonymous Snick April 04, 2016 2:05 PM  

I would not consider Trump down for the count. He is the Grand Master at deal making, and it would not surprise me if he has a whole bunch of options still up his sleeve. The media is not interested in covering Trump, or Cruz's own attempts to steal this.

Anonymous Anonymous April 04, 2016 2:06 PM  

That was the origin of rule 40 and the date when i quit giving the RNC money.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 04, 2016 2:15 PM  

@54 Mark
@49 Uh, Cruz has taken a better position than Trump on immigration.
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More Cruz bullshit. Handing out teddy bears and soccer balls at the border was his original position.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 04, 2016 2:18 PM  

Seems like Trump should have hired Paul Manafort in December or earlier.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 04, 2016 2:18 PM  

@66 Steve
Ted Cruz's thinking that people are desperate to see yet another tedious debate between him and Trump is revealing.
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There's already been 12 or so debates. Not sure. I got to where i watched ever other one the last 4. Another debate is *yawn*

Anonymous Rolf April 04, 2016 2:28 PM  

The short-sightedness of people in general, and politicians in particular, is something I point out to my classes from time to time when it's appropriate to the lesson. I always get a lot more attention we venture a little of the dry-as-dust academic track and dip out toes in other areas. If we are talking decimals and fractions and how to simplify, once they are mostly getting it why not use some big numbers... like national debt and population? Or when talking percents and ratios distribution curves, look at election numbers. I'm always careful to be politically neutral in terms of "I'd vote for X" or "I'd never for Y," but I can point out obvious effects of the policy the top three or four puts forth, and asking rhetorically "does that make sense to you?" When I point out a problem that one party has, I point out a similar flaw in the other party, and similarly why they might push one particular policy or another (that is, who benefits).

I've run simple experiments in class - tell everyone I'm going to be checking HW the next day, and sending emails home to the parents of anyone that doesn't have it. Homework completion rates go way up. Tell them I won't be checking, then check it anyway, completion rats fall significantly. Point out they are directly responding to known incentives, and other people -like politicians - do the same, and suddenly it doesn't sound so cynical. They are young. Plant the seeds for them to think for themselves and watch carefully now, and there is hope for the future.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 04, 2016 2:29 PM  

@91 gxg
Even the Tea Party is going cuckservative.

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The Tea Party people who got in all turn out bad. Rinubio is the glaring example.

I gave up on them a while back when I realized how ineffective they have become.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 04, 2016 2:31 PM  

@93 Snick

Cruz also has the help of one of the worst of the corrupt, Mitch McConnell to help with the thievery of delegates.
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The Turtle McCuckle is helping Tundra Ted? Will wonders never cease?

Anonymous cincinnatus April 04, 2016 2:31 PM  

From Alpha Game a month ago:

So, who wins between Sigma and Alpha? It depends. If the contest comes down to general popularity and enthusiasm, the Alpha will win. If it goes down to game-playing, intrigue, and thinking outside the box, the Sigma will win.

To review, Trump is the Alpha, and Cruz is the Sigma.

Cruz, whom the Conservativetreehouse blogger suspects is trying to kiss up to the GOPe for being a backstabber in the past, is assembling a coalition of willing women (Amanda Carpenter, Carly, Miss GrabGate, etc.). Following the women are a coterie of GOPe Gammas and white-knights.

Trump is relying on Beta and Delta males and wiser, less-damaged women. And unfortunately, there appear to be significantly fewer less-damaged women than Beta and Delta men in this country.

So the contest in fact is not unlike the classic view of liberals vs. conservatives, with Cruz and the cucks in place of the liberals and Trump in place of the conservatives.

Ironically enough, I'd imagine that Sigma Republicans would tend to be Trump supporters. Not sure how much that would help matters vs Cruz.

Blogger YIH April 04, 2016 2:32 PM  

It seems Kasich is the replacement for Little Marco in more ways than one...

Blogger Gaiseric April 04, 2016 2:32 PM  

Mark wrote:Point me to the quote, I'd be happy to look at it.
Do your own research. It's not hard to find Trump's actual immigration position on his own website, or the many, many, many articles that were written about since he unveiled it... y'know, months ago.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 04, 2016 2:35 PM  

Well, he is the Son of a Mailman.

Anonymous Steve April 04, 2016 2:47 PM  

Says the transAmerican.

As we Americans say: "G'day mate!"

Another debate is *yawn*

B-but... the ishoos!

Blogger Jourdan April 04, 2016 3:03 PM  

Let Cruz the attorney out-lawyer Trump and win a contested convention.

ANYTHING that kills the Republican Party is a-okay with me!

Blogger JWM in SD April 04, 2016 3:17 PM  

paworldandtimes wrote:My fictional scenario of Trump getting cheated out of the election and the epic events that follow is HERE.

Warning: it's long.

PA


That's entertaining PA but I strongly suspect that a false flag will be used to diffuse the situation long before it gets to the point of TX refusing to accept immigrants.

Blogger Worlds Edge April 04, 2016 3:36 PM  

Go easy on Ted. Today being World Rat Day and all.

http://imgur.com/gallery/1ChdB

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner April 04, 2016 3:45 PM  

My fictional scenario of Trump getting cheated out of the election and the epic events that follow is HERE. PA

Even I don't think HilLIARy would openly offer 2 white wives to every nigger that fought for her. I also don’t even see the convoy making it to Austin, one Texas ranger tosses out spike strips and all the Humvees have flat tires. How would the troops get supplied for a week? With all the affirmative action and black troops on one side, you would be lucky if you could kill as many of their soldiers as the black doctors/nurses/medics would.

Blogger James Dixon April 04, 2016 3:52 PM  

> Because I've donated to Tea Party organizations and candidates, I'm on several national mailing lists. From the Tea Party Patriots Citizen Fund, I'm getting pro-Cruz emails trashing Trump.

Yeah, been there, done that. They dropped me from their lists when I got a Hannity/Gingrich call for money and I told the caller that Hannity and Gingrich were part of the problem, not part of the solution and they would never see a dime from me.

But that's not really the tea party. That's Cruz using the various mailing lists he's assembled over the years, many of who are tea party linked.

Blogger Miguel D'Anconia April 04, 2016 3:57 PM  

This coming from the "evangelical Christian" Cruz. This guy is the republican establishments stealth candidate or more likely the spoiler so they can install their hack in a contested convention. It looks like Cruz is of this world instead of merely in this world.
Christians like this guy make me shake my head (and I consider myself a follower of Christ).

Blogger SciVo April 04, 2016 3:59 PM  

I agree with Nate that from a purely "win the game" point of view, a Trump/Cruz ticket would be the best.

Right now, Trump is like a star quarterback who brought his team to the semifinals with his amazing arm, and also a great defensive line that sacks the other teams' quarterbacks all the time; but he doesn't have any ground game. He's only made it this far because of his good offensive line, because he's getting blitzed all the time, but so far it's been hard for anyone to touch the Teflon Don.

But both of the teams on the other side have tremendous defensive lines, great running games, and own the air. (Literally.) Whichever one he faces in the finals, he needs an offensive coordinator that already has a good ground game ready to go, and that's Cruz.

Blogger Elocutioner April 04, 2016 4:02 PM  

What'll be interesting is what Ted does once he's mathematically eliminated.

He claims to be an outsider and went to DC to take on the cabal. If he stays in to deny Trump on the first ballot then he's working for a brokered convention and the establishment over the last outsider.

Nobody honestly believes Ted will be the nominee from a brokered convention but that's the line we'll be fed.

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 04, 2016 4:06 PM  

Nate's explanation is pretty good. Cruzman-Sachs is a GOP insider and knows how the game is played in a way Trump simply does not. As for Trump, I still have to wonder if he's really the oligarchy's 2016 edition of Ross Perot. One is not allowed to become a billionaire in the Zombie-Banana Empire unless the Banksters allow it. The notion of a "free-market" is every bit as utopian in nature as equality is. Markets, even those that are based on real economics as opposed to debt-racketeering, are all rigged to one degree or another. The best any government could do is to minimize the rigging by ensuring 'fair weights and measures'. The so-called "free-market" of the Zombie-Banana Empire has been thoroughly rigged since at least 1914, if not since 1865.

By 2010, even the land-title system in place since colonial times has been rendered meaningless. They can take real property owned outright on the basis of false records and claims and the victim has no recourse. Between Kelo and the legal acceptance of fraudulent loans and claims, property rights have been effectively nullified. The first amendment is on its last legs and the second will be going down as soon as the worthless party of cucks, epitomized by the likes of Cruzman-Sachs and led by the Kentucky Undertaker, votes to approve Housenigga Hussein's Communist appointee to the court.

Nate's also correct about the ultra-nationalists: There's not nearly enough around who've taken the full iron pill yet - least of all Christians - most of whom continue to attend and donate to fully-converged churches who regularly engage in activities like settling Somali Musloids into the small-town upper Mid-West. Few even know how converged even the "conservative" churches are. There might be more ultras in the EUSSR, but I've yet to see anyone there gun down members of the Lügenpresse or the polizei-goondas there protecting the invaders - who absolutely deserve anything that happens to them, no matter how horrible.

Anonymous DissidentRight April 04, 2016 4:13 PM  

@75. The ultra nationalists aren't coming. They aren't next. Screwing over Trump would definitely be then end of the GOP... but it has nothing to do with ultra-nationalist looking to take over.

This.

We have reports in Europe of natives actually committing 'hate crimes'. The only hate crimes being committed in America are false flags. Europeans actually have genuine nationalist parties. We don't. A Trump loss just gets the ball rolling.

Anonymous BGKB April 04, 2016 4:17 PM  

Nate's also correct about the ultra-nationalists: There's not nearly enough around who've taken the full iron pill yet

In the war against the British it only took 3% of the colonists fighting them. If you look at Chris Dorner it took weeks of every asset CA could get ahold of to track down one black guy. The PA white guy that killed a cop that screwed his sister over had a county locked down for a month. Just think of how hard it would be for affirmative action govt workers to deal with more than one guy that understands Bracken.

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 04, 2016 4:18 PM  

gxg:
This is part of what's so maddening. Even our own organizations betray us. And consider how stupid this is. Where will individual Tea Party folks go when they're betrayed?

Entryism is a huge problem. The TP is thoroughly cucked, the rank and file are the very definition of cucks - who've been betrayed over and over. They voted the R-jerseys into control of Congress and what did they get? A Congress that was if anything even more obedient than the D-jersey dominated one run by Reid and Pelosi. Pedo-Bear laughs.

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 04, 2016 4:22 PM  

@116 BGKB.
That's a fair point and one which needs to be remembered at all times. They aren't superhuman and they aren't invincible. I doubt we're to the 3% yet, but there do seem to be more awakening than ever before.

Blogger pyrrhus April 04, 2016 4:25 PM  

I think Trump will be forced to offer Cruz the VP spot if he doesn't get enough delegates...

Blogger SciVo April 04, 2016 4:26 PM  

Elocutioner wrote:What'll be interesting is what Ted does once he's mathematically eliminated.

He claims to be an outsider and went to DC to take on the cabal. If he stays in to deny Trump on the first ballot then he's working for a brokered convention and the establishment over the last outsider.

Nobody honestly believes Ted will be the nominee from a brokered convention but that's the line we'll be fed.


He might stay in as far as the last primary, maybe even as far as the convention, but he won't let it go to a second ballot. Maybe not even a first. He'll work out some kind of deal with Trump, and since his supporters aren't sigmas themselves, they'll get whiplash from how quickly he pivots.

Remember back in 2008, Rodham prevented a protracted battle on the floor by moving for Obama to be declared the nominee by acclaim. I expect something like that.

Anonymous Fran April 04, 2016 4:27 PM  

No way...there are other candidates for that VP position...why not Christy before someone who has singled you out and sided with the establishment(Cruz).

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 04, 2016 4:37 PM  

RC wrote:I had occasion this past weekend to interact with several people who'd be rightfully considered rednecks. I was utterly astonished at their grasp of...

It's always so surprising when one of the better people comes out and almost admits we're not only people, we're surprising smart! Some will even admit that some few of us are smarter on average than other disadvantaged minorities, and we actually know we're being screwed by the current political alignment.

Keep visiting, eventually we may admit you into our primitive and suspicious yet surprisingly genial society.

Blogger Elocutioner April 04, 2016 4:38 PM  

@120 I'm not sure that Cruz would have any say on how they vote on the first ballot (that would differ state by state though.) First ballot is all that matters for the base picking the nominee. It's why Kasich isn't dropping - his 66 Ohio votes would go to Trump.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 4:39 PM  

Still reading the comments. Still pulling for a Ted Cruz win. Still believe he is the best choice for all Americans, including those who feverishly engage in every crazy conspiracy theory that comes down the pike.

Cruz is not hard to understand. He's not as outcome driven from a policy perspective as many believe. He is motivated by the actual implementation of limited government, which includes allowing people at the state government level to do things he personally disapproves. He wants to restore Constitutional Democracy as conceived in the original document.

And whining about him using the rules of the Party to try to win is a little rich coming from Trump and Trumpkins. The bully posture won't work with Cruz or his supporters.

You don't win until you get a majority of the delegates. If you didn't show up to be a delegate, then you can just stuff your complaints. Drive-by voters are fickle and their loyalty is transitory. If Trump runs a 3rd party campaign, he will just prove himself to be the liar we all expect him to be, and believed him to be all along.

Trump is a Democrat Trojan Horse, and a bunch of Democrats who crossed the lines to vote for him don't have a chance of bringing down the GOP.

The GOP is more than just a Presidential Candidate. And once Hillary gets indicted, Cruz will have a clear path the White House.

Buckle up homies: this race is just getting started. YIPEE-KAY-YAY MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 4:54 PM  

Scott6584

I truly hope you are right and that Cruz is all these good things you say he is.

Problem is his approach, lying (or misstating his opponents positions if you prefer), seeming lust for power at any expense and personal attributes have convinced most of the folks I know who would be likely to support him to view him with distaste. He is not trusted expect by a small group of very loyal supporters, who for the most part do not seem to be able to get others on the fence to see it the way they do.

Not sure why trump has not also gotten this disapproval here in PA, he is certainly a flawed candidate and folks are investing him with lots of hopes that do not necessarily come out of the positions he holds, but it is what it is.

In any case I expect if he gets nominated he will get very little support, unless he has skills that have not yet been seen. PA is right now very pro Trump, a lot of Dem folks are crossing over, trump has broken the old democratic/republican issue lines. I doubt it will be Pro Cruz even on just the republican side unless he can get a majority of the primary voters. His appeal to the Dem voters that he needs is very slight, I think PA will nto be in paly with Cruz.

Sorry to say that, but that is how I see it.

Anonymous AmStrat April 04, 2016 4:56 PM  

Scott two weeks ago: "Hey guys, you better not shit on Cruz."

Scott today: *shits over Trump and Trump supporters*

Well, so much for that.

Blogger Matamoros April 04, 2016 4:56 PM  

@124 Cruz is the official establishment opposition. The establishment always sets up its preferred candidate and the opposition - who is claimed to be an outsider maverick.

Cruz is that man. He is wholly owned by the power brokers, and is only being kept in the race to try to stop Trump from saving America, and getting the required delegates.

Then they will discard Cruz like one of Cruz's dirty rubbers.

Btw, how do you like the continuing sex scandals with the girls and boys?

Or Kasich's homo scandal as well. These are the type people the power brokers want to run America - like Bathhouse Barry.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:00 PM  

Note to Trumpkins: Declaring victory 5 miles into a marathon doesn't make it true. If Cruz beats you to the finish line, it will be because he kept running, while you stopped to congratulate yourselves on your big lead.

I'm loving it. Punching back at the bully was never the most satisfying part of winning the fight. It was seeing the supposed tough guy run home crying for his Mommy or Big Brother.

Trump running to Reince Prue bus to complain about Cruz being mean, and Kasich staying in the race is just too delicious.

SURPRISE!!! Shutting on Republicans and the Republican Party doesn't make them like you more, and want to support you when other people start Punching back.

Poor wittle ole Twump. There are no more Jebs, or Rubios to beat up on, and the sycophantic Carsons and Christies can't help him anymore.

What? You mean I actually have to win the loyalty of Republican delegates? Nobody told me that. Waaaaaaaaaaah! Mommmmmmmmmy! Cruz is being mean to me...

Blogger Nick S April 04, 2016 5:02 PM  

The number of otherwise smart people who have swallowed the Trump BS hook, line and sinker then washed it down with a super sized portion of his special blend Kool-Aid never ceases to amaze me.

One would think a smart person with the resources of the PhenomeDon would have formed an exploratory committee that would have mapped all this crap out prior to throwing their hat in the ring. It's not as if there wasn't a plethora of information available for the asking. I guess he's a special kind of genius.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:08 PM  

@Amstrat

Two weeks ago, when Trump retweeted the picture of his and Cruz's wife, he lost me forever. I made a simple comment in one of the threads: "A bridge too far."

From that point on, Trump and his supporters and apologists can just go fuck themselves as far as I am concerned. I forgave a lot. But Trump finally pushed me beyond my limit.

Now, I just don't fucking care anymore. Trump can go straight to hell, and take all of you with him.

Anonymous AmStrat April 04, 2016 5:13 PM  

@Scott

Ah, so it's like that. Very well, do what you gotta, but make sure it's over a tarp.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:16 PM  

You know. I was actually trying, really trying, not just faking it, to reconcile myself to a Trump Presidency. I was willing to be on your side.

But you've lost me forever now. Congratulations!!!

Good luck trying to win the Republican Party nomination without any Republicans...

Fucking idiots...

Blogger Sam Lively April 04, 2016 5:17 PM  

@129

Being an outsider comes with real disadvantages. But it also exposes the corruption of the system to the average voters who are also outsiders.

Blogger Sam Lively April 04, 2016 5:19 PM  

@130

Why are you taking this so personally? Trump isn't pushing you.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 04, 2016 5:21 PM  

Scott6584 wrote:Two weeks ago, when Trump retweeted the picture of his and Cruz's wife, he lost me forever. I made a simple comment in one of the threads: "A bridge too far."

I would ask someone, anyone to tell me this was a parody, but Scott's posted here before. Dishonest, stupid and pathetic ain't no way to go through life, son

So, send out a nude of Trump's wife to 2 million Utah voters was just great, but posting a comparison shot of his wife vs Heidi Cruz is a bridge too far.
Right.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:21 PM  

You know Amstrat. You can't win without people like me who were willing to be persuaded. The fact that you cannot see that is really amazing.

But maybe you supporters are really like Trump after all. You never really wanted to win. You just wanted everyone to pay attention to your juvenile temper tantrum.

In that case, you've already won. We have been paying attention. Now go sit in the corner and sick your thumb while the adults clean up your mess.

Blogger Mark April 04, 2016 5:23 PM  

@95 Yah, handing out soccer balls and medicine to sick kids whose criminal parents brought them there. Oh, with money raised through private donations instead of government money.

While saying we had to send them back.

This while Trump was on the DREAMer train. Who knows where he is on that one now.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:29 PM  

I find the sniveling cowardous of Trump to be highly offensive.

Lyin' Ted, my ass. More like Lyin' Trump. The man is all show and no substance. He is gold plate on the outside, and rusted away metal on the inside. He's $4000 spinners on a 1982 Datsun. He all Alpha-man externally, but little crying butch when you scratch the surface.

There is no there there. He's a figment of your conspiracy minded feverish imaginations.

Anonymous TS April 04, 2016 5:32 PM  

"There is no there there. He's a figment of your conspiracy minded feverish imaginations."

Well you've proven Scarborough right you globalist serf.

Scarborough: Anti-Trump conservatives 'as arrogant and unmoored' as MSNBC liberals - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/scarborough-anti-trump-conservatives-as-arrogant-and-unmoored-as-msnbc-liberals/article/2587544

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:33 PM  

This while Trump was on the DREAMer train. Who knows where he is on that one now.

Is the #TrumpTrain fine?

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:33 PM  

There is no bankruptcy court to save your ass this time, Donnie-boy. This time, you have to pay the bill your mouth charged up.

Inherited wealth and 4 bankruptcies = business genius and deal-maker extraordinaire. In a pigs ass, it does. Your boy has been exposed. Good luck trying to put lipstick on now...

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:35 PM  

Hah!

Globalist Serf. Hah!

I'm for an independent Texas. Try again, bitch-boy.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:37 PM  

LOL. Quoting Scarborough, the guy who competes with McCain for the ttile of Democrat's favorite "conservative." Right up there with David Brooks.

Whew! You really stung me that time.

Blogger David-093 April 04, 2016 5:40 PM  

Scott's off his meds again.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:40 PM  

Go back to MSNBC, Mr. TS. We ain't takin marchin orders frim lefties cheering for Trump to win.

Anonymous TS April 04, 2016 5:41 PM  

"I'm for an independent Texas."

Lol. You're a globalist tool who's so crossed eye he can't see because of all the bankster/globalist c*ock in his mouth

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:43 PM  

Lol. You're a globalist tool who's so crossed eye he can't see because of all the bankster/globalist c*ock in his mouth

Based on what evidence?

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:43 PM  

Well, you have to be high on Oxy or Crystal Meth to support Trump. I suggest the rest of you get off your "meds" too.

(It also helps you keep you teeth.)

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:44 PM  

Well, you have to be high on Oxy or Crystal Meth to support Trump.

Or just high on MURICA FUCK YEAH

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 04, 2016 5:47 PM  

Josh wrote:Is the #TrumpTrain fine?
The Trump Train is excellent! World Class!
Except the brakes don't seem to work. But we don't have any use for those anyway.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:48 PM  

You know, this is kind of fun. I didn't realize how enjoyable it is to simply insult everyone who slightly disagrees with you instead of actually talking about substantive things.

Oh, I'm sorry. Is the word substantive too big for you. I mean "shot that actually matters. "

But who want to get mired in logic when we can just all be rhetorical all the time, and shit.

Can't say I learned nothing from you boys and girls.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY April 04, 2016 5:49 PM  

Scotty ,I's real fun to watch you actin' a total fool. But you ain't actin' you just are.
Carry on, hapless fuckwit.

Anonymous TS April 04, 2016 5:49 PM  

"Or just high on MURICA FUCK YEAH"

Are you a leftist? I guess I'll have to tell you the same thing I tell them. His connections with globalists are out there so look it up yourself you lazy fu*k. Dumbass libtard Texans.

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:50 PM  

Are you a leftist?

No.

You must be new here.

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:51 PM  

Except the brakes don't seem to work. But we don't have any use for those anyway.

But without brakes what if the train runs into the wall?

Blogger Rusty Fife April 04, 2016 5:51 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:I think Trump will be forced to offer Cruz the VP spot if he doesn't get enough delegates...

Who says 'forced'? What if this is just good-cop, bad-cop at the establishments expense?

Anonymous TS April 04, 2016 5:53 PM  

"Can't say I learned nothing from you boys and girls."

You wouldn't receive it anyway you disingenuous libtard. Just like the globalists you worship you're liar. Yeah those globalists are going to let Texas become independent. Dumbfucks.

Anonymous Cheddarman April 04, 2016 5:54 PM  

All I can say is that I should have invested in pop corn futures

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:55 PM  

One would think a smart person with the resources of the PhenomeDon would have formed an exploratory committee that would have mapped all this crap out prior to throwing their hat in the ring. It's not as if there wasn't a plethora of information available for the asking. I guess he's a special kind of genius.

If this campaign is any indication of his management style...

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 5:56 PM  

Don't lecture me about MURICA. my family has been here since 1630, and there are 6 Presidents in my family tree.

Trump is just a 2nd Generation ex-Nazi married to an East European whore. He doesn't love America. He just wants to suckle on her teet.

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 5:57 PM  

my family has been here since 1630, and there are 6 Presidents in my family tree.

SEE I KNEW YOU WERE PART OF THE GLOBALIST ESTABLISHMENT!!!

Blogger Mark April 04, 2016 5:58 PM  

@103 Do your own research. It's not hard to find Trump's actual immigration position on his own website

Yah, but even he doesn't read his website. He contradicts what's on there frequently, and contradicts himself daily (or hourly).

If you claim Trump is better on the issue, you're going to have to point out a reason for actually believing it, what he's actually said, etc. because on a daily basis Trump himself doesn't know where he is on the issue.

Anonymous Andrew E. April 04, 2016 5:58 PM  

Trump re-tweeting Heidi was one of my favorite moves from Trump thus far. Cruz-friendly pac sends out an ad making Melania out to be a tart, and Cruz certainly knew about it, and Trump went nuclear on Lyin' Ted. Good for Trump, nobody gets away with that even if it costs some votes and cucks like Scott.

Anonymous Sam the man April 04, 2016 5:59 PM  

Scott 6584

The fact that the issue that was your bridge too far is a re-tweet of not so flattering picture of Ted Cruz's wife? Is that not a wee bit........white knight like?

Not saying you cannot be anti-Trump, I see that, he is a very flawed candidate. Totally get it. But if the thing that made your irreconcilable with Trump as the nominee is the picture thing, well it seems like something a unmarried girl/women would say. Are you a women(Your other posts seem male enough) Could you elaborate why that was so offensive?

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand why that Tweet was so bad.

Thanks in advance

Anonymous BGKB April 04, 2016 6:02 PM  

Trump can go straight to hell, and take all of you with him.

I thought it was Bern in hell.

But you've lost me forever now. Congratulations!!!

Doesn't stay lost he came back for at least 9 more posts.

Why are you taking this so personally? Trump isn't pushing you.

I am glad TRUMP is STR8 so I don't have to worry about being cucked.

There is no bankruptcy court to save your ass this time, Donnie-boy. This time, you have to pay the bill your mouth charged up.

He has had hundreds of businesses, 4 went bankrupt. He is playing the real estate game against (((jews))) that do far worst than use loss limiting legal maneuvers. We might need someone experienced in bankruptcy after he AUDITS the FED. He worked laying concrete during high school summers, that's more work than Bush family did if you don't count blowing Saudis for oil money. The only business success GWB had was buying a baseball team & buying good players for it, he couldn't even find oil in TX. What other candidate is better at business?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY April 04, 2016 6:03 PM  

"I'm for an independent Texas."
Good luck with that, you supporting a Cubano Canuck and all that comes with him.
You are proud to be an ignoramus , Scotty.
But, that's just you being you, nothing new under the sun.

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 6:04 PM  

What other candidate is better at business?

Now or in the past?

Anonymous TS April 04, 2016 6:04 PM  

TED CRUZ, KASICH, BUSH AND GEORGE SOROS - PARTNERS IN GLOBALISM http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh291.htm

Lazy ass cuck RINO's libtards

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 6:07 PM  

Cuck, cuck, cuck, cuck, cuck.

You don't even know what it means. You just indiscriminately use it on anyone who disagrees. Hence, the word has ceased to have any meaning.

There are more than two colors on the rainbow. Insisting that everything that isn't red is therfore blue doesn't make it true. It just means you don't know the difference between blue, green, purple, orange and yellow.

Failing to support Trump doesn't make someone a Cuck. It just means they have intelligence.

Anonymous BGKB April 04, 2016 6:08 PM  

What other candidate is better at business? Now or in the past?

Either. I would have voted for Carly Fiorina if she promised to do to the federal govt. what she did to the workforces she CEOed for. You already know my thoughts on the equivalent of 3 whipples done on octogenarians by the same team over 26 hours.

Blogger Josh April 04, 2016 6:12 PM  

You don't even know what it means. You just indiscriminately use it on anyone who disagrees. Hence, the word has ceased to have any meaning.

Cuck has evolved to mean anti trump

Anonymous TS April 04, 2016 6:12 PM  

"Failing to support Trump doesn't make someone a Cuck. It just means they have intelligence."

No, it just means you're self deluded.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 04, 2016 6:13 PM  

Scott 6584

Not to be a dick, but hopefully you will respond to the rules of the blog. If called out one is supposed to respond.

Please explain why the re-tweet of an unflattering picture of Cruz's wife is so offensive. I promise not to make fun of you or use the answer against you, I just want to understand why it is (objectively). Trying to understand that way of looking at things.

I do understand that it has some emotional effect on unmarried women, which I assume has to do with some kind of perceived issue with looks. So if you are a girl I get it, though it seems kind of silly to a guy.

But if you area guy, please explain why that is a "bridge too far" so to speak.

thanks once again.

Anonymous Craig April 04, 2016 6:14 PM  

this damn presidential election is capturing my attention... I might as well exercise my right of free speech, I imagine in some countries they WISH they had free speech,

Anonymous Andrew E. April 04, 2016 6:15 PM  

Scott ignoring the substance as usual. Like before when Cruz joined in with the Communist left against the 1st Amendment after Chicago and when Cruz sided with ISIS against Trump after Brussels. And WifeGate -- started by Cruz and finished by Trump. Cruz can't do anything unless he thinks it advances his political ambitions, country be damned.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 6:15 PM  

Nice try BGKB. But this isn't about GWB, or the Saudis, or the globalist cucks. This about Cruz vs. Trump, straight up.

And your little bully bitch boy Trump is whining like a stuck pig, after spending months on the attack. Go crying to Mommy Priebus because people are being mean, and actually PLAYING BY THE RULES.

Oh, please bring me the fainting couch, and fetch my tampons. Cruz is actually fighting to win. Perish the thought. I need smelling salts.

Man up bitches. The fight is coming to you. If you can't handle playing in the major leagues (USFL??), then don't expect me to wipe your assistance when you shit all over yourself.

Anonymous AmStrat April 04, 2016 6:16 PM  

@Josh

"Cuck has evolved to mean anti trump"

Halfway right. For the other half it's strangely been antiTrumps becoming cucks.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY April 04, 2016 6:19 PM  

"Failing to support Trump does make someone a Cuck. It means oafish Cruzers like myself have no intelligance at all."
Now that's more like it Scotty !

Anonymous Craig April 04, 2016 6:19 PM  

...nationalist whirlwind that is beginning to swirl ... that's awesome

Anonymous Craig April 04, 2016 6:21 PM  

swirling whirlwinds I think are really cool

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 6:30 PM  

Sam, I already explained it. It was a cowardly move, and I hate cowards.

Melania VOLUNTARILY allowed herself to be photographed nude. In times past, marrying such a woman automatically disqualified someone from running for office. Trump can't revel in his wife's publicized notariety, and then complain when an independent group of Mormons finds it offensive, and runs an ad against him in freaking Utah, of all places.

It was a punk move to blame it on Cruz, but that's just politics. When he personally went after Cruz's family, he lost any chance of my vote.

Don't try to play me with "Cruz was behind the Melania ad" BS. Trump made his own enemies, and he's trying to hide behind Cruz.

It's a bitch move. Lost all respect for the man. I grew up fighting bullies who pulled bitch moves whenever you finally cornered them, or tried to divert blame for the consequences of their own actions.

Cruz's wife is the child of missionary parents who has always conducted herself with modesty and a demure attitude.

Trump chose to marry a harlot. I was willing to overlook that. But trying to paint Heidi Cruz with the same Harlots brush as his wife, and implying she's more valuable simply because she has a gold-plated pussy was too much for me.

A bridge too far. Melania Trump posed nude. It is a fact. Own it. Don't try to blame Cruz because you chose to marry a slut.

Clear enough for you?

Anonymous Craig April 04, 2016 6:31 PM  

Trump-Cruz I doubt that, it seems that Trump has developed serious contempt for Cruz, If Trump picks Carson then their problem would be no experience, but maybe they would have like a ridiculoulsy competent cabinet to make up for it,

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw April 04, 2016 6:36 PM  

@181

Except that GQ confirmed that Ted Cruz's campaign manager bought publishing rights for that photo. That seems to implicate his campaign directly in the affairs of a super PAC, which is illegal, from what i understand. If the information is accurate, which is confirmed from the source, then Ted Cruz's campaign is directly responsible for that ad, meaning he swung first. And i would say the tactic was effective, judging from your response.

Blogger Tim April 04, 2016 6:37 PM  

So.....If South Carolina awards 50 Trump delegates to Rubio since Trump violated his pledge to support the eventual nominee.....what is the road to 1237 on the first ballot?

Blogger Teri April 04, 2016 6:39 PM  

Let me get this straight: a model posing nude makes one a whore. We can ignore the 10 years of marriage and the fact she could certainly get a chunk of change for leaving.

But tweeting an unflattering picture of Heidi Cruz is a bridge too far? Seriously? Maybe Cruz should have spent more time coaching her, like he did in those campaign video outakes CNN released this weekend.

Heidi Cruz is Hillary Clinton all over again. I doubt she gives a damn about your concerns. Unlike Cruz, Trump has said it was a mistake to do that. But seriously, if unflattering pictures of Heidi hurt your heart, I don't think you are tough enough for this election.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY April 04, 2016 6:42 PM  

Scotty is most definetely a woman .
This emo basketcase twat's rants are amusing to say the least.

Anonymous Andrew E. April 04, 2016 6:42 PM  

Scott still doesn't get it. He thinks that if Trump's political opponents publicly call his wife a harlot, Trump has to accept it because it is somehow true. Sorry, doesn't work that way. You call Trump's wife a harlot, even if it is true, there is hell to pay and Trump made sure of that. The actions of a red-blooded American male. Not those of, say, a cuck.

Anonymous Steve April 04, 2016 6:42 PM  

Having a good old fashioned LOL at Scott white knighting for Ted Cruz's wife.

Prithee Milady! Thine honour shall be restored through mine mighty keyboard. Squire - fetch me mine internet!

I grew up fighting bullies who pulled bitch moves whenever you finally cornered them

I bet they still rue the day they messed with you!

Anonymous Craig April 04, 2016 6:45 PM  

Trump isn't dumb, snl portrayed him with a dumb accent and like a dim-ness, which really pissed me off... not that it matters but I think one day me and snl are somehow gonna have a like a huge bloody fight, I don't know how its gonna go down but there is serious contempt on both sides and something has to give

Blogger 744 Bosoms of Liberty April 04, 2016 6:46 PM  

Prediction: Scott is going to get banned as a result of a direct conflict with Vox where Scott ends up calling Vox a liar.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 04, 2016 6:52 PM  

@132 Scott "But you've lost me forever now."

Did something make you think someone cares?

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 6:56 PM  

I had the same negative reaction to those who went after Palin's kids 8 years ago.

And frankly, I don't care if you want to call it white knighting. I know me.

My reaction was to Trump, and that was just the final straw, not the totality of why I don't like or trust Trump.

I have explained in numerous comments in previous threads why I think Trump is a fraud.

But his constant barrage of uncouth behavior reached a tipping point with that tweet.

And yes. Voluntarily posing for nude photographs that will be published all over the world makes you a tramp. There. I said it. I'm sure that Trump is just as big of a man-tramp as the woman he married. I have was willing to overlook it.

But tramps are not on the same level as people who conduct their lives with morals. It is one thing to forgive someone's immorality. It is quite another to say that immorality is no worse than morality.

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 6:56 PM  

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Anonymous Steve April 04, 2016 7:02 PM  

But his constant barrage of uncouth behavior

There. I said it.

Trump is just as big of a man-tramp

You're killing me.

Anonymous johnc April 04, 2016 7:07 PM  

Cruz and Trump are a pair of turds. Arguing over which turd is better may make for good sport, but don't anybody get too emotionally invested in either turd.

Anonymous Godfrey April 04, 2016 7:08 PM  

Just noticed the topic. Curious, how big has the "Cruz Cult" been here today?

Cruz scares me as much as Hitlery. He seems to have a large following among the Christian Zionist crowd. You know... the "start WWIII and Jesus will show up" crowd.

Blogger Teri April 04, 2016 7:08 PM  

Heidi Cruz voluntarily works 80 hours a week and has nannies care for her kids. Melania Cruz stopped modeling after she married and gave up her business to stay home with her son.

And there's this. I get that Cruz is too pure to utter the words "ratfu**r". But why is it that he had to say rodent copulation? Who talks like that?

Blogger Scott6584 April 04, 2016 7:18 PM  

Andrew,

Funny how that "hell to pay" has hurt Trump, not Cruz. Cruz has publicly repudiated the Melania ad multiple times. Trump keeps doubling and quadrupling down on "Cruz started it first", which makes him look childish and weak - perhaps because he is childish and weak.

There are a whole lot of husbands out there who are highly offended by what Trump did, not just women. It hit people at a gut level, and apparently Trumpkins simply don't understand how much damage Trump did to himself with that tweet.

I get the whole "never apologize" to SJW's thing. But even Vox Day says that when you are genuinely wrong, own it and apologize. This is not a SJW thing. It hit people in how they live and relate to one another in private, personal relationships. It was an instinctive negative reaction that immediately triggered the protective instinct in men. It's not logical, it is more primal.

And Trump violated people in a primal way. Until that moment, I honestly thought he had the nomination sewed up. But he hurt himself badly. Real badly.

Those who seek and gain fame based on flaunting their bodies don't get the same consideration. Kim Kardashian gets no one's sympathy if someone uses the numerous nude photos she has published. Same for Melania Trump.

But most women don't seek fame through exposing themselves, and most men don't want to be attached to a known slut. That's just the truth.

Put in game terms, virgins are more valuable than women with high N-counts. Attacking a virgin will ALWAYS earn you more anger than attacking a slut. Always. Basic rule of nature.

Anonymous Craig April 04, 2016 7:19 PM  

I really really should leave snl alone though, its gonna come back to bite me one day, plus they are kind of funny sometimes, I reluctantly have to give them that

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