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Thursday, April 21, 2016

Minnesota mourns

The artist known as Prince has died. He was 57.

Prince's body was discovered at his Paisley Park compound in Minnesota early Thursday morning.

Multiple sources connected to the singer confirmed he had passed.

I'm very sorry to hear this. Like many who grew up in Minnesota, his music was the soundtrack to my youth. Playing on stage at First Avenue was surreal, because it was the stage he had owned. Playing on stage at his own club, Glam Slam, was an incredible experience. I met him several times, usually at The Perimeter, and he was unfailingly civil. For a world-famous pop superstar, he was astonishingly approachable, and I never heard anything negative about him from my many friends and acquaintances who encountered him everywhere from the nightclubs and recording studios to the car wash.

There are some people who seem larger than life, and it seems impossible that they can die. Prince Rogers Nelson was a unique musical talent who had a special relationship with his hometown. His music will live on. Here is hoping that his huge collection of unreleased recordings will one day be released to the world.

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178 Comments:

Anonymous Icicle April 21, 2016 1:03 PM  

The artist formerly known as alive.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 21, 2016 1:07 PM  

He had some kind of medical emergency on a private aircraft in the last week, there was an unscheduled landing in Illinois.

People do die of the flu, influenza. Friend of my father years ago caught flu, stayed home a day and a half, went back to work and collapsed later that day, dying by nightfall. It’s a real strain on the system.

RIP.

Blogger kurt9 April 21, 2016 1:08 PM  

Although I never cared much for his music, he seemed to have a good head on his shoulders compared to most celebrities. I thought he took good care of himself. I'm surprised he's dead.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab April 21, 2016 1:09 PM  

You just liked him because he was only an inch or two taller than you.

Blogger lowercaseb April 21, 2016 1:11 PM  

57 is waaaay too young.

Blogger Sagramore Was Here April 21, 2016 1:12 PM  

He used to live in North York and I would often go by his house near Glendon College on my commute. Still in shock.

Blogger Alexander April 21, 2016 1:13 PM  

The artist known as Prince is formerly.

Anonymous CruzCrew7 April 21, 2016 1:15 PM  

More like Vox Gay

Blogger YIH April 21, 2016 1:17 PM  

He was one of the few blacks that could truly be called a great guitarist. He was also quite adept at other instuments, as well as a good singer and a very good producer.
Even though he was known for being more than a bit eccentric such as that symbol which forced the media to dub him ''The artist formerly known as Prince'', from everything I've heard, he actually was clean-living and a devout Christian.
He will be missed.

Blogger Krul April 21, 2016 1:18 PM  

Good night, sweet Prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest

Blogger James Dixon April 21, 2016 1:22 PM  

> ...such as that symbol which forced the media to dub him ''The artist formerly known as Prince'',

I understand that was necessary to break an existing record contract.

Anonymous JN April 21, 2016 1:30 PM  

And Chyna died as well.

Blogger Sagramore Was Here April 21, 2016 1:30 PM  

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Blogger lowercaseb April 21, 2016 1:31 PM  

YIH wrote: He was also quite adept at other instuments, as well as a good singer and a very good producer.

This fellow could play anything you put in front of him. I wouldn't be surprised if he could pick up a Hurdy Gurdy and make the thing sound funky and sexy.

...and he was a phenomenal songwriter.

that symbol

That symbol and how he used it to get around the contract with Warner Brothers shows what a sharp mind he had.

YIH wrote:He will be missed.

Amen to that.

Blogger Sagramore Was Here April 21, 2016 1:31 PM  

@1 @7 The symbol thing was a beautiful hack. He seemed to know a lot about the admiralty law matrix most are still living in.

Blogger John Williams April 21, 2016 1:35 PM  

I grew up in a location, at a time, and had team mates who brought Prince into my event horizon, so yea, I've seen Purple Rain more than once. One of my teammates was a total Alpha Stud. He was dating a Playmate and she dumped* him for Prince. Win or lose, the fact that he was competing with Prince for women added to his reputation.

*In my best Clinton voice* "Once in college I watched Purple Rain, but I never bought his music."

*Playmates will tell you they like kittens, puppies, and walks on the beach, but they're as hypergamous as the next girl.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 21, 2016 1:42 PM  

Why do celerities all have compounds?

Anonymous patrick kelly April 21, 2016 1:45 PM  

I thought his super bowl performance was among the best, and until then I had no idea he had legit guitar skillz. Still have memories of Red Corvette and 1999 blasting at the roller rinks in the 80's.

Purple Rain is among many tunes I appreciate hearing the original artist on the radio, but hated performing with any cover band.

Anonymous Michael Maier April 21, 2016 1:45 PM  

I love it when women say they love Prince. I tell them "Purple Rain really showed me how to treat women. They buy you a guitar, you slap them around and it all ends up fine in the end!"

Blogger dh April 21, 2016 1:46 PM  

Very many rumors about him having HIV for the last 20 or so years. A little sad.

A lot of people who once believe themselves to be invincible are coming to the realization, in 2016, that it might not be quite true.

Anonymous DE-173/Code 19/Vox Nox April 21, 2016 1:47 PM  

"And Chyna died as well"

The pro wrestling death machine claims another one.

Anonymous kfg April 21, 2016 1:50 PM  

"Why do celerities all have compounds?"

Because they are celebrities.

Anonymous Flip April 21, 2016 1:51 PM  

http://blindgossip.com/?p=77843

It was AIDS...

"The celebrity] believed that he was cured, and he had some crazy [religious] people who told him that God cured him. So he stopped taking his medication and the sickness came back. Now doctors say he’s dying, and there is nothing anyone can do about it."

Blogger lowercaseb April 21, 2016 1:52 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Why do celebrities all have compounds?

A part of me hopes that one of the secrets that leaks out about Prince is that he was a hardcore prepper and was stockpiling ammo and guitar strings in his luxury fallout shelter.


Blogger Jourdan April 21, 2016 1:56 PM  

I met Prince as a young man, when I was working with some local bands,including The Bangles, who formed a collaborative atrangement with him and transformed from hard rockin bar band to top ten.

I agree completely with Vox. There was something special about Prince and his music. And he was, as Vox says, a cimplete gentleman in person, unlike many of his colleagues.

Anonymous DDT April 21, 2016 2:01 PM  

I met him several times, and he was unfailingly civil.

Did you play basketball against him?

Blogger Ingot9455 April 21, 2016 2:04 PM  

Silent Bob tells a story about maybe going to do a project with Prince, but getting no-callbacked from him for his mild level of curse words during the discussion.

Actual morality with talent and dedication together, very hard to find.

Blogger Krul April 21, 2016 2:08 PM  

OT: Harriet Tubman to replace Jackson on $20 bill

Blogger VFM #7634 April 21, 2016 2:13 PM  

I always thought of Prince as a somewhat less weird Michael Jackson myself.

Blogger Salt April 21, 2016 2:13 PM  

Flip wrote:he had some crazy [religious] people who told him that God cured him.

Jehovah's Witnesses.

Blogger John Williams April 21, 2016 2:16 PM  

Why do celerities all have compounds?
Same reason a dog licks it's balls, because he can.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. April 21, 2016 2:19 PM  

Wow, we never know when we are going on passon, just a few days ago I was jamming to raspberry beret.

Anonymous mature-Craig April 21, 2016 2:30 PM  

I always found Prince to very intriguing , my prayers and sincere best wishes to him and his family and friends and fans

Anonymous CS April 21, 2016 2:31 PM  

Purple Rain was the first record I ever bought with my own money. I was 11 years old. I bought it along with the Eddie and The Cruisers soundtrack. It was at a little record store called Sam's Jams.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 21, 2016 2:45 PM  

Very depressing. I knew intellectually the 1980s were over but now I know in bones that that age is in the winds of eternity.

Prince was the real deal and he was the real deal with ridiculous amounts of flash and style.

I was always kind of surprised that he stayed put in Minnesota. Usually if someone hit's it big they move somewhere more celebrity lifestyle supportive.


Blogger Cataline Sergius April 21, 2016 2:47 PM  

He also had a real eye for talent. Not all that many stars have the eye but he could find the diamond in the rough.

Blogger Mike Wallens April 21, 2016 2:48 PM  

Let's get real. His music sucked. I suppose if you have some kind regional pride for Minnesota then you might like the junk he sang but there was nothing he put out that I could tolerate for more than 5 seconds.

Anonymous tublecane April 21, 2016 2:51 PM  

His music was omnipresent in my youth. I always wondered if that was because I live in Minnesota, or if it was that way everywhere. The "When Doves Cry" video and the museum scene from the 1989 Batman stand out in my memory.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 21, 2016 2:59 PM  

And pancakes

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 21, 2016 3:07 PM  

Troll alert.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 21, 2016 3:09 PM  

Batman soundtrack was an amazing club album...strangely in tune with the stupid movie, but with way more armosphere and motion. The big problem was that no one cool wanted to dance in public to a kid's cartoon.

DJs remix it now all the time and it is always great.

Blogger CarpeOro April 21, 2016 3:10 PM  

CS wrote:Purple Rain was the first record I ever bought with my own money. I was 11 years old. I bought it along with the Eddie and The Cruisers soundtrack. It was at a little record store called Sam's Jams.

On Woodward?

I remember a guy back in 1984 telling me that Prince was an awesome guitarist. My response was what was the difference if he didn't put it on his albums? Occasionally heard stuff I liked from him, not enough to buy his music (got one of his albums for free, did like Musicology cut).

Blogger Gaiseric April 21, 2016 3:19 PM  

Seen just now on Alex Jones: Merle Haggard and Prince; did they die from chemtrail flu?

Sigh. @38: I think it was Minnesota. Growing up in Texas, it's hardly like I missed some of his big hits like 1999, Little Red Corvette, Doves Cry, Let's Go Crazy and Kiss, but in that, he was no different than many other guys who had a string of hits in the 80s, like Hall & Oates or Huey Lewis. I was honestly surprised years later to hear people talking about him as if he were anything other than just another 80s artist who was still around and kicking for the concert tour money, or that there were people who considered his work somehow more artistically important than, say Duran Duran.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 3:22 PM  

Game. Blouses.

Anonymous Senghendrake April 21, 2016 3:24 PM  

Really, North York? I had no idea, I'm from around there and know the Glendon area reasonably well. Pretty posh.

Anonymous HalibetLector April 21, 2016 3:26 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Why do celerities all have compounds?

Because they can't go out in public without creating a disturbance. I imagine the space helps from getting too stir crazy.

Anonymous CruzCrew7 April 21, 2016 3:28 PM  

"Game. Blouses."

Agreed. Trannie Trump and now this...

Vox GAY

Blogger Eric April 21, 2016 3:30 PM  

Playmates will tell you they like kittens, puppies, and walks on the beach, but they're as hypergamous as the next girl.

Women who take their clothes off for money tend toward the mercenary? Color me surprised.

Anonymous BGKB April 21, 2016 3:31 PM  

Why do celerities all have compounds?

To keep the paparazzi at bay. If you could afford it wouldn't you want to have a courtyard you could walk around naked in?

hopes that one of the secrets that leaks out about Prince is that he was a hardcore prepper and was stockpiling ammo and guitar strings

With a solar powered aquaponic pool/greenhouse.

Blogger Eric April 21, 2016 3:32 PM  

I met him several times, and he was unfailingly civil.

Did you play basketball against him?


That skit is the funniest six minutes that ever hit the small screen.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 3:34 PM  

"Agreed. Trannie Trump and now this...

Vox GAY"

Dude.

Shut up.

That skit was hilarious. if all Prince ever did in his whole life was inspire that skit... then he lived a greater life than 99% of the world's population.

Blogger Eric April 21, 2016 3:44 PM  

Why do celerities all have compounds?

Because they can afford it and the rest of us can't. If I had that kind of money I'd have a giant compound guarded by leather clad hot female ninjas.

Blogger frenchy April 21, 2016 3:46 PM  

@12,

Add one more celebrity and we can claim the Illuminati did this. :) Those guys like numbers.

Blogger Zorro April 21, 2016 3:50 PM  

CUSTOMERS WHO BOUGHT THIS ALSO BOUGHT...

http://www.amazon.com/Space-Raptor-Invasion-Chuck-Tingle-ebook/dp/B00S4B95RQ?ie=UTF8&keywords=space%20raptor%20butt%20invasion&qid=1461267967&ref_=sr_1_1&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

Not trying to be nasty, but seriously. If you bought Cuckservative, would you also buy THIS title??!!

The cognitive dissonance is mind-blowing!

Anonymous A Visitor April 21, 2016 3:51 PM  

@1 LOL

@5 I sell life insurance. I had a client who died recently who was roughly the same age.

@8 I thought he converted to Islam at some point. Regardless, he did a have a way with the guitar.

@12 As did the mom from Everybody Loves Raymond.

@24 It could happen.

@25 You worked with The Bangles? I know he wrote "Manic Monday". The Bangles, damn they were cute!

@26 Did you play basketball against him?

I knew of Prince before "Chapelle's Show". I even had heard "Purple Rain". However, for my generation, the indelible memory of Prince will always be when Charlie Murphy recounted playing basketball against him.

@44 YES!!!!

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz April 21, 2016 4:24 PM  

Hrrrm, Vanity died in February, now Prince is dead.

Blogger BassmanCO April 21, 2016 4:26 PM  

We don't care, jerkoff.

Blogger BassmanCO April 21, 2016 4:28 PM  

Shoot the j. Shoot it!

Blogger BassmanCO April 21, 2016 4:29 PM  

Shoot the j. Shoot it!

Blogger BassmanCO April 21, 2016 4:29 PM  

We don't care, jerkoff.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 4:35 PM  

"Because they can afford it and the rest of us can't. "

Speak for yourself. I have a compound.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab April 21, 2016 4:39 PM  

Nate wrote:"Because they can afford it and the rest of us can't. "

Speak for yourself. I have a compound.


Is it named "Tara"?

Blogger James Dixon April 21, 2016 4:50 PM  

> Speak for yourself. I have a compound.

I just have to settle for 45 acres of land. :(

Blogger Teri April 21, 2016 4:53 PM  

People do die of the flu. My late husband died from pneumonia, brought on by what seemed to be a nasty case of the flu. He was 59.

Blogger Stephen T. McCarthy April 21, 2016 5:02 PM  

I apologize for this being so off-topic, but there being no 'General Purpose' blog bit I'm aware of, I figured I'd post on the most recent for quickest results.

I'm new to this blog and have only commented a few times. I found it while examining pro-Trump websites.

In a comment section on one of my own blogs, I recently referred to myself as an "OMEGA". I based that upon the definitions I found on the following webpage:

http://tinyurl.com/kakb9xs

Admittedly, other than "Alpha", these terms are fairly new to me.

Today, I received an Email from a good friend who wrote, in part:

>>... I went to check out more about the omega male after you posted that... and was surprised to find that the definition you found is not the one that comes up in all other sites, and I'm not sure why.

So I was curious how you found that link. And I was curious what you thought about THESE links. These are the first ones you get when you search Google for 'omega male', and long story short, the omega is portrayed as the worst of the worst, even worse than a beta. Pretty much a complete lazy creep who's borderline functionally retarded that no woman finds attractive.

Anyways, the links.

http://tinyurl.com/n5keg9r

http://tinyurl.com/zpu7k4l

http://tinyurl.com/jmxf3gz

So... WTF? I truly can't find any other links than the one you posted that give what I feel is the correct definition. Because honestly, I think your explanation sounds way more accurate.

What these people describe is just an extreme beta, but what about the rest of us? Those who aren't beta, are attractive to women, can approach them and talk to them without problems, can be social and charming, but aren't alpha because we don't want to run the whole world? We just want to do our own thing and don't care what others think of it? I would think that's its own category, and I would think that omega would fit that just perfectly. It's on the opposite side of the spectrum not because we're 'last', but because we're lone wolves and don't want to be surrounded by the others. It's a choice, not a result of being a socially retarded outcast.

Like Bobby Darin says, we both just happen to be going the same way, and everyone else can get outta the way!


I'm hoping someone here can give me, or point me in the right direction of, what would be generally considered a close to ultimate definition of these various terms, and particularly that of the "OMEGA".

Thanks in advance for whatever feedback y'all can submit.

~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'

Blogger Al From Bay Shore April 21, 2016 5:05 PM  

There's this rumor about Prince. He did a performance of only Jimi Hendrix covers and it was recorded.

Anonymous Southron April 21, 2016 5:11 PM  

@64 It'd be more on topic at Alpha Game. Start with the link to The Hierarchy under Foundations on the right-hand side.

Blogger YIH April 21, 2016 5:13 PM  

Stephen T. McCarthy:
Try Alpha Game, Vox has explained the Greek alphabet there a few times.

Anonymous WaterBoy April 21, 2016 5:28 PM  

Ingot9455: "Silent Bob tells a story about maybe going to do a project with Prince, but getting no-callbacked from him for his mild level of curse words during the discussion."

According to Kevin's own account, he not only got a callback (eventually), but ended up spending a week with Prince taping the documentary.

Vox: "Here is hoping that his huge collection of unreleased recordings will one day be released to the world. "

Same link above, @ 28:00 mark, Kevin relates a conversation with Prince's producer, indicating a hefty trove of stuff in his vault.

Will be interesting to see who ends up with it all...

Anonymous tublecane April 21, 2016 5:34 PM  

@37-I find much of his music unlistenable, but I definitely wouldn't say it sucked. There are some unpleasant associations from my youth, including the vague memory of him being taken from behind by a man while performing "Get Off" on MTV. But I could listen to the songs he wrote for a mass audience all day. I wonder how many more hits he would've had if he hadn't intentionally sabotaged his career over disputes with his record label. That explains alot of the unlistenableness, I think.

The sex stuff always turned me off, especially considering every other pop song is about it. I'd rather be utterly mystified as to what a song's about, as with "7," for instance, and feel the sex in the groove or hear it in his voice.

Blogger Blue88 April 21, 2016 5:34 PM  

I remember watching him on Don Kirchner's Rock Concert or whatever it was called, late one Friday or Saturday night. He looked about sixteen years old and was dressed all in ladies scarves, if I remember correctly and I probably don't remember correctly. I do remember being blown away by his guitar work. Soon after, came all his hits.

We all die. All of us. Death is the great equalizer.

Anonymous Clay The Swamp Spartan April 21, 2016 5:48 PM  

Lord only knows. I'm simply devastated. Or, mebbe just dehydrated.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 5:52 PM  

"Is it named "Tara"?"

no.

Its named Jericho.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 5:53 PM  

"I just have to settle for 45 acres of land. :("

that's enough to build a compound on.

Blogger Nick S April 21, 2016 5:56 PM  

Dude was gifted.

Anonymous Luke April 21, 2016 5:57 PM  

A past acquaintance of mine from my years living in Minnesota claimed to have gone to the same high school as Prince (the dog) Rogers Nelson. Told me that clown was a wimpy, whiny little fag who constantly got his ass kicked. His music was also a bad influence on a long-ago ex-GF. Good riddance.

Anonymous JSavio April 21, 2016 6:16 PM  

At least one more SJW is gone.

Blogger JN April 21, 2016 6:22 PM  

Looks like Drudge is all purple in his honor.

Anonymous johnc April 21, 2016 6:40 PM  

Who?

Anonymous WaterBoy April 21, 2016 6:43 PM  

JN: "Looks like Drudge is all purple in his honor."

Looks like VP is, too.

Anonymous WaterBoy April 21, 2016 6:44 PM  

JSavio: "At least one more SJW is gone."

And a Boomer, too. It's a two-fer.

Blogger lowercaseb April 21, 2016 6:46 PM  

Bravo VP! Bravo...

Blogger VFM #7634 April 21, 2016 6:48 PM  

@65 Stephen T. McCarthy

See here.

Also, you can try this quiz that I just made a few days ago. (In fact there are two such quizzes on that site, mine is a bit more in-depth, the other is several years old.)

Blogger SS April 21, 2016 7:09 PM  

ok this color scheme is just horrible

Anonymous Prince April 21, 2016 7:17 PM  

I'll show you who's a wimpy, whiny little fag. Wait, where are my legs? Dammit Chyna, get off me, I can't find my legs.

Blogger Salt April 21, 2016 7:26 PM  

Nate wrote:Speak for yourself. I have a compound.

“Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man.” - Patton

Mine is mobile, unlimited range, with cannon.

Blogger MATT April 21, 2016 7:27 PM  

Borders should be hot pink.
Though my computer's blue..

Blogger YIH April 21, 2016 7:45 PM  

Nice touch Vox.
Those settings will come in handy come football season as well.

Blogger pdwalker April 21, 2016 7:46 PM  

One of the many things I enjoyed about Prince was his incredible vocal range. Very few singers could match him. And yes, he was a very talented musician.

So what if he was flamboyant? He was an Artiste in the true sense of the word.

RIP Sweet Prince.

Anonymous Ecthelion April 21, 2016 7:55 PM  

Nice tribute; RIP Prince.

Anonymous RedJack April 21, 2016 7:56 PM  

Over the weekend it came out that he landed at a local air port to be treated for "flu like symptoms".

While I don't have the emotional connection to Prince that you do, I will always remember "Red Beret" and a wonderful summer when I was 16.

Blogger lannes April 21, 2016 7:56 PM  

His "compound" ?

Anonymous Karen April 21, 2016 8:03 PM  

Like what you did with the place Vox...RIP Prince Rogers Nelson

Blogger Stephen T. McCarthy April 21, 2016 8:06 PM  

Southron, YIH, and VFM ~
Thanks! Well, by THAT definitions list, I fall under "Sigma". Certainly not "Omega".

Peculiar, the vast differences in terms from one source to another.

Guess I'll just go back to labeling myself as "me". Ha!

I appreciate the info!

~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'

Blogger Matt April 21, 2016 8:06 PM  

# 9. YIH
>He was one of the few blacks that could truly be called a great guitarist.
Absurd statement. Especially when there are clearly more than a few: Here's a dozen. Heard of them? Or of the Blues? Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Chuck Berry, Howlin’ Wolf, John Lee Hooker, Buddy Guy, Curtis Mayfield, R.L. Burnside, Robert Cray, Albert Collins

#37. Mike Wallens
Have you heard every Prince album or just two hits? Then you can't really judge his music.

#66. Al From Bay Shore
Hendrix. Could be true. Have you seen the video he did of When My Guitar Gently Weeps at the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame? He shreds for a good 2 minutes and steals the show.

#76 Luke
So because a girl broke up with you, you hate Prince? Get over it.

Blogger Timothy MEEHAN April 21, 2016 8:06 PM  

@23 So when will the Laytonesque "KS on the chart means Kansas, privacy please" campaign start? That was some heavy duty Rule 2 action among Canadian socialists in the summer of 2011.

Jack liked his marching powder too.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 8:11 PM  

"Thanks! Well, by THAT definitions list, I fall under "Sigma". Certainly not "Omega"."


***chuckle***

Funny how its always sigma

Blogger Stephen T. McCarthy April 21, 2016 8:20 PM  

>>... Funny how its always sigma

Funny how... even with just the small amount of time I've spent browsing this website I knew it would be YOU.

~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'

Blogger Rusty Fife April 21, 2016 8:22 PM  

Salt wrote:Nate wrote:Speak for yourself. I have a compound.

“Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man.” - Patton

Mine is mobile, unlimited range, with cannon.


That was the most disappointing part of filling out my cruising permit; putting '0' in the box for 'number of cannon'.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 21, 2016 8:23 PM  

WaterBoy wrote:JN: "Looks like Drudge is all purple in his honor."

Looks like VP is, too.


I was wondering why it felt so vibrant around here all of a sudden.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 21, 2016 8:46 PM  

Solipsistically Suggestible should be one of the ranks:

"Better-looking than you give yourself credit for, women always seem interested in you at inconvenient times, such as when you are purchasing groceries from them. Your mother thinks you are a "great catch" and a "very nice boy." You feel you may be destined for greatness."

Anonymous Jack Amok April 21, 2016 8:49 PM  

...a unique musical talent who had a special relationship with his hometown...

I really admired that in him. He seemed like someone who was comfortable with where he came from. He wasn't trying to run away from it, and didn't use it as a marketing gimmick like that guy from New Jersey.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 8:49 PM  

"Funny how... even with just the small amount of time I've spent browsing this website I knew it would be YOU."

oh... I assure you... it isn't just me.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 21, 2016 9:00 PM  

I figured out my social rank the first time I tried to get a woman baptized in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.

Let's just say it was somewhere in the range of "less than Prince."

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 9:02 PM  

"Peculiar, the vast differences in terms from one source to another."

also... Vox created this list. so if you see discrepancies from another source... they are wrong.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir April 21, 2016 9:14 PM  

We're glorifying a narcissistic drug addict? Oh, I forgot. His incomparable contribution to our "culture." Maybe a $3 bill with Prince's mug on it.

Blogger ray April 21, 2016 9:18 PM  

Little Red Corvette was a decent song. But that's a pretty pretentious thing to name oneself. It'd be a lot to live up to, and this guy didn't.

Then starts calling himself Artist Formerly Known As . . . worse, mebbe. I guess he had many other names, too. Don't recall him extolling Christ much.

He seemed pretty representative of the narcissism and megalomania of these times. Perhaps he was an artist, in that sense.

Blogger Atomic Agent 13 April 21, 2016 9:18 PM  

I had Purple Rain on vinyl and it was one of the first albums I ever owned. Appreciation only grew as I grew older. The world lost a great artist today.

Blogger ray April 21, 2016 9:25 PM  

''The artist formerly known as Prince'', from everything I've heard, he actually was clean-living and a devout Christian."


Now that WOULD be good news for him.

Blogger Gaiseric April 21, 2016 9:28 PM  

In other sad music news today... Kanye West was found alive in his apartment thus afternoon.

Blogger Gaiseric April 21, 2016 9:28 PM  

In other sad music news today... Kanye West was found alive in his apartment thus afternoon.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 9:39 PM  

"In other sad music news today... Kanye West was found alive in his apartment thus afternoon."

stevie ray vaughn is dead... and we cannot GET nickleback into a helicopter...

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 9:41 PM  

"We're glorifying a narcissistic drug addict? Oh, I forgot. His incomparable contribution to our "culture." Maybe a $3 bill with Prince's mug on it."

Shut up.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 21, 2016 9:46 PM  

I haven't heard any of his music, but it sounds like he was a devout Jehovah's Witness. Presumably a believer, which is good to hear.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 21, 2016 9:53 PM  

Thanks! Well, by THAT definitions list, I fall under "Sigma". Certainly not "Omega".

@94 Stephen T. McCarthy
Something tells me you probably aren't sigma. People mistake themselves for sigma all the time. Take my quiz.

Blogger weka April 21, 2016 9:57 PM  

The page comes up purple: appropriate.

Blogger YIH April 21, 2016 9:58 PM  

and we cannot GET nickleback into a helicopter...
Listen to that Nickelback - every time I do it makes me gack

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 21, 2016 10:03 PM  

Vanity died on Valentine's Day this year, also.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir April 21, 2016 10:05 PM  

Hey Nate,
I'll say what I damn well please. He was a talentless jerk IMHO.

Blogger Nate April 21, 2016 10:12 PM  

"I'll say what I damn well please. He was a talentless jerk IMHO. "

hey. moron. This isn't your blog. You're a guest. Go say whatever you damn well please on your own blog.. or on twitter.

This is Vox's blog and you're pissing on the rug.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 21, 2016 10:24 PM  

VFM #7634, there is something messed up on the quiz. I tested it out and turned up Sigma, and I assure you I am not even close...more like Delta by way of Omega. I think the extramarital sin answer is going to send some Deltas in the wrong direction.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir April 21, 2016 10:28 PM  

@113
"Shut up."
@120
"hey. moron..."

You're an unspeakably crass, puerile person, Nate, like a little kid who doesn't have the ammo for an adult conversation. I believe it's past your bedtime, young man.

Anonymous RJ April 21, 2016 10:37 PM  

115. VFM #7634 April 21, 2016 9:53 PM

Something tells me you probably aren't sigma. People mistake themselves for sigma all the time. Take my quiz.


Sigma...

Blogger praetorian April 21, 2016 10:38 PM  

What's wrong with Nickelback?

Anonymous rubberducky April 21, 2016 10:46 PM  

Prince brought tremendous creative energy to the table. He was a welcome iconoclast, too. I'm sad to see him go. I've never heard anybody who knew him say a bad word about him.

It's looking more and more like drug problems did him in. What a scourge upon the land, this demonic and seductive sea of pharmaceuticals.

Anonymous LastRedoubt April 21, 2016 10:50 PM  

Damn. Not the biggest fan, but some damn good music nonetheless, and his impact was felt far and wide.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 21, 2016 10:55 PM  

VFM #7634, there is something messed up on the quiz. I tested it out and turned up Sigma, and I assure you I am not even close...more like Delta by way of Omega. I think the extramarital sin answer is going to send some Deltas in the wrong direction.

VFM #6306
Hmm... answering that you abstain from sex for religious reasons shouldn't have been what gave you sigma. It would have essentially given you close to a null answer on that question with a slight score addition toward the lower ranks, not the higher.

It looks like I'll have to edit and test it some more.

Thanks.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab April 21, 2016 11:07 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:VFM #7634, there is something messed up on the quiz. I tested it out and turned up Sigma, and I assure you I am not even close...more like Delta by way of Omega. I think the extramarital sin answer is going to send some Deltas in the wrong direction.

VFM #6306

Hmm... answering that you abstain from sex for religious reasons shouldn't have been what gave you sigma. It would have essentially given you close to a null answer on that question with a slight score addition toward the lower ranks, not the higher.

It looks like I'll have to edit and test it some more.

Thanks.


I've been married to the same woman for over thirty five years we were high school sweethearts before that.

I don't think your quiz was meant for guys like me.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 21, 2016 11:19 PM  

VFM #6306
I suspect I made the questions that test your game too strong, so you racked up a lot of high-rank points by answering them correctly. They're now much weaker and more slanted toward Delta. Try it now.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. April 21, 2016 11:20 PM  

"Diamonds and Pearls" along with opal, gold and silver, rest in peace gentle soul.

Blogger Stephen T. McCarthy April 21, 2016 11:52 PM  

>>... oh... I assure you... it isn't just me.

Oh, but NATE, it IS!
Take it from a person who is a total stranger to you, an objective outsider who's never interacted with you before.

I'm just a person who has casually browsed some of these blog bit comment sections over the last few weeks and noticed that YOU, sir, stand out. With your bitter, poisonous personality, YOU stand out in the comment sections.

There was no positive, meaningful reason for you to address me here at all. But you couldn't resist taking a moment to post a gratuitously snide, demeaning remark directed at a complete stranger. It's because there's something unhappy in you that naturally leaks out all over these comment sections.

Don't be a bully, Nate. Bullies always eventually pick on the wrong person.

>>... also... Vox created this list. so if you see discrepancies from another source... they are wrong.

It would also appear that, unlike you, I don't necessarily think of Vox as an infallible god.

Why, oftentimes I don't accept or even grudgingly acknowledge the social dominance of Alphas.

Hmmm...
Where have I heard that before?
Oh, yeah... I found it HERE, under the heading of "Sigma".

On the other hand, you, it seems, are up for anything your alpha wants to do. I guess that would be Vox, to you. And I found THAT under "Beta".

To paraphrase Otis Redding: Try A Little Kindness sometime, Nate. No need to get up in a friendly stranger's face.

I have nothing else to say to ya, man. Go ahead and get the last word (which is something else about you that stands out in these comment sections).

~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'

Blogger Lazarus April 22, 2016 12:06 AM  

Old people keep track of celebrity deaths.
"Oh look, dear, XXX has died."
" Oh my. There goes another one"
And then when celebrities start dying that they never heard of and they are still kickin', they know it won't be long.

Blogger AdognamedOp April 22, 2016 12:14 AM  

Nice tribute. Prince was a great musician. Anyone who was into the music scene in the 80's knows this.

Anonymous Commenter formerly known as 7734886 April 22, 2016 12:15 AM  

And though you were only four feet eleven
There's no height restrictions on the gates of heaven
You're no longer around, you're in the ground
We're all the same height when we're lying down.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 22, 2016 12:17 AM  

O'Duibhir, just between you and me...

...you're a real asshole.

Blogger Caedryn MoonJump April 22, 2016 12:35 AM  

Stephen T. McCarthy wrote:>>... oh... I assure you... it isn't just me.

Oh, but NATE, it IS!

Take it from a person who is a total stranger to you, an objective outsider who's never interacted with you before.

I'm just a person who has casually browsed some of these blog bit comment sections over the last few weeks and noticed that YOU, sir, stand out. With your bitter, poisonous personality, YOU stand out in the comment sections.

There was no positive, meaningful reason for you to address me here at all. But you couldn't resist taking a moment to post a gratuitously snide, demeaning remark directed at a complete stranger. It's because there's something unhappy in you that naturally leaks out all over these comment sections.

Don't be a bully, Nate. Bullies always eventually pick on the wrong person.

It would also appear that, unlike you, I don't necessarily think of Vox as an infallible god.

Why, oftentimes I don't accept or even grudgingly acknowledge the social dominance of Alphas.

Hmmm...

Where have I heard that before?

Oh, yeah... I found it HERE, under the heading of "Sigma".



~ D-FensDogG

'Loyal American Underground'

I'm going to say this as a kindness so that you may choose to fix yourself: You're a gamma.
Your first post proves it pretty easily, but there are other factors. Not realizing that Nate is an alpha and maintaining the culture of his group proves that. Not accepting that the progenitor of the ranking system you asked about is the only one justified to define its terms proves that. The long winded post with shaming language proves that. Your blog proves that. You act like a secret king, but that doesn't make you a sigma. Examine yourself, you can be better.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY April 22, 2016 12:46 AM  

"To paraphrase Otis Redding: Try A Little Kindness"
It's "try a little Tenderness, fag.
And your prolly a Yankee on top of that, which makes you fag squared.

Blogger Ahazuerus April 22, 2016 12:52 AM  

I'm not a fag! I'm NOT!

And you'll all be sorry when I'm gone!

[flounces]

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY April 22, 2016 12:52 AM  

"You're an unspeakably crass, puerile person, Nate, like a little kid who doesn't have the ammo for an adult conversation."
You are waaay too short for this ride,sonny.

Blogger Bosefus April 22, 2016 12:57 AM  

Holy smokes, lots of comments... I suggest Vox is gay also. Look at those shoes he wears... not to mention the haircut.

Blogger Bosefus April 22, 2016 1:01 AM  

This reminds of me my teen years... acid rock vs detroit soul... I know soul when I see it and want no part of it!!!

Blogger Akulkis April 22, 2016 1:02 AM  

@9

"Even though he was known for being more than a bit eccentric such as that symbol which forced the media to dub him ''The artist formerly known as Prince''"


Let's, for the sake of argument, say that your given birth name is Fred Smith. And for your entire life, you have been performing under then name "Fred". Then, you and your record company part ways, and they file a federal injunction PROHIBITING YOU from performing under the name "Fred." Tell us, oh great and magnificently wise sage..... what in the hell would YOU do?

Prince did EXACTLY the right thing -- he made a mockery of one of the many the shenanigans that the big record companies pull on the musicians who are the lifeblood of their revenue streams.

Douglas Adams was right... record company executives are some of the slimiest, immoral people on the planet.

Blogger Elder Son April 22, 2016 1:14 AM  

And then the kittens come out fanging too. Amusing.

Anonymous Rud April 22, 2016 1:25 AM  

Don't know if you changed the sidebar colors in honor of Prince, but as a former programmer who used to have to look at screens of code all day 5 days a week, I spent a good long while one day messing with the background and character colors and settled on this exact purple you came up with. It is the absolute easiest on the eyes for looking at code all day.

Blogger Tupla-J April 22, 2016 1:34 AM  

This tribute color is really garish.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2016 1:42 AM  

I liked his music but I didn't know much about him. Seeing the reaction to his death it seems he was way more popular and influential than I would have guessed. David Bowie died not all that long ago too, and the reaction didn't seem nearly this intense.

Blogger Scott C April 22, 2016 1:48 AM  

What did you talk to Prince about?

He was an amazing musical talent and entertainer.

Blogger Akulkis April 22, 2016 1:50 AM  

@107

"t that's a pretty pretentious thing to name oneself. It'd be a lot to live up to, and this guy didn't."

In the 80's, I used to think that... then I got the facts.

Since when is using the NAME ON YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE a pretentious activity....

Blogger Krul April 22, 2016 1:53 AM  

Akulkis wrote:Douglas Adams was right... record company executives are some of the slimiest, immoral people on the planet.

Indeed. There's a good reason that managers and other behind the scenes operators of the music industry are still called by the evocative name Svengali.

Blogger Ahazuerus April 22, 2016 1:56 AM  

As a late teen / early 20s male when he came to prominence, the music of Prince forms part of the background themes to some seriously educational escapades.

But I never met the man so I have nothing to say other than that, if you can't recognize or acknowledge talent just because it isn't being applied to your personal preferences, then you're a fucking idiot.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 22, 2016 2:05 AM  

VFM #7634, I tried it again. Still Sigma. Maybe a few more known Deltas could try it out, or the fact that I'm not a "natural" Delta...or something means the test is okay, but I'm just in an insignificant odd class of Delta... or another possibility is that I am ranking the women I've been into a single point higher than objective observation would dictate, but I really don't think that is the case.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 22, 2016 2:07 AM  

The purple theme is excellent. Prince, Vikings, Jesus. Unusually harmonic.

Blogger Akulkis April 22, 2016 2:15 AM  

@142

"David Bowie died not all that long ago too, and the reaction didn't seem nearly this intense."

David Bowie was an over-hyped pervert with mediocre talent, who was celebrated and pushed on us by the media insiders primarily because he was a pervert, and willing to push the aesthetic boundaries to get the public more and more willing to accept perversion.

In contrast, even though I was never a really big fan of Prince, his talent and utter genius as a musician is utterly undeniable.

That's the difference.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 22, 2016 2:35 AM  

Prince could rip a guitar apart, put it back together like a surgeon, then belt the hell out of two octaves in succession. And you could dance to it.

Bowie? None of that.

Also, Prince loved where he came from. 90% of big musicians were motivated by getting away from where they came from.

Finally, Purple Rain is a way better movie than the Man Who Fell to Earth. The latter was about a pretentious alien who learns to be gay. The former was about a screwed up kid who learns to be a man.

Blogger Sir Thermite April 22, 2016 3:07 AM  

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Blogger Sir Thermite April 22, 2016 3:08 AM  

Back when I read WND, before becoming a regular lurker on VP and Alpha Game (haters gonna hate) a co-worker's recommendation of Neil Strauss was my first introduction me to the concept of Game. Notwithstanding Vox's fitting tribute and personal perspective here, I had no idea until today that so many other people cared so much about Prince. Some of these other's sentiment is no doubt legit, but for the rest (including the millennial who played five of his songs at the bar tonight) I'm reminded of Strauss's later book about musicians- "Everyone Loves You When You're Dead."

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2016 3:21 AM  

David Bowie was an over-hyped pervert with mediocre talent, who was celebrated and pushed on us by the media insiders primarily because he was a pervert, and willing to push the aesthetic boundaries to get the public more and more willing to accept perversion.

Figures. I've never been more than a casual fan of most of the music I listen to, not usually caring to learn the details of artists' lives, but record labels promoting perverts does fit a certain pattern of certain persons promoting the destruction of Western Civilization.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 22, 2016 6:03 AM  

Krul wrote:Akulkis wrote:Douglas Adams was right... record company executives are some of the slimiest, immoral people on the planet.

Indeed. There's a good reason that managers and other behind the scenes operators of the music industry are still called by the evocative name Svengali.


No shit? That puts a little more oomph behind Lauren Faust's character "Svengallop" in My Little Pony, a (gay) music producer.

Anonymous Steed April 22, 2016 6:07 AM  

Given that Prince was in a rush to write his autobio, I would say that he was likely dying. Also given the death of an older sis via methadone, I`ld say his death was accidental as well. Though I suspect he had his body placed on the elevator. An artist indeed.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 22, 2016 6:08 AM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Thanks! Well, by THAT definitions list, I fall under "Sigma". Certainly not "Omega".

@94 Stephen T. McCarthy

Something tells me you probably aren't sigma. People mistake themselves for sigma all the time. Take my quiz.


Many of the questions on the quiz don't have valid answers for an Omega. Attractiveness of previous love interests? Not applicable. Still a pretty good test though, just offering help here.

Blogger Joe Keenan April 22, 2016 6:11 AM  

@149 Good call on Bowie, I never really though he was a great singer/songwriter/performer, to me he was all about fashion. He was a model who affected an avant garde attitude and people confused that with musical talent. Prince by any measure was much more accomplished than Bowie, he even did the fashion thing better than Bowie. RIP Prince

Blogger SteelPalm April 22, 2016 7:46 AM  

@150

Yes, maybe so. But is "Purple Rain" better than "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence"? At least Bowie had that going for him, even if the film's quality is mostly thanks to Nagisa Oshima and Takeshi Kitano.

Blogger Gaiseric April 22, 2016 8:03 AM  

Noah B wrote:Figures. I've never been more than a casual fan of most of the music I listen to, not usually caring to learn the details of artists' lives, but record labels promoting perverts does fit a certain pattern of certain persons promoting the destruction of Western Civilization.
Makes more sense if you write it as (((record labels))).

Blogger Gaiseric April 22, 2016 8:08 AM  

Michael O'Duibhir wrote:Hey Nate,

I'll say what I damn well please. He was a talentless jerk IMHO.

#3: SJWs always project.

Blogger JCclimber April 22, 2016 10:31 AM  

Blatant gamma behavior display up above.

Funny that the gamma didn't self-label as an alpha, however.

Blogger Nate April 22, 2016 11:08 AM  

"Funny that the gamma didn't self-label as an alpha, however."

they always pick sigma... because they think it makes them even cooler than the alphas they so loathe.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 22, 2016 11:09 AM  


Let's, for the sake of argument, say that your given birth name is Fred Smith. And for your entire life, you have been performing under then name "Fred". Then, you and your record company part ways, and they file a federal injunction PROHIBITING YOU from performing under the name "Fred." Tell us, oh great and magnificently wise sage..... what in the hell would YOU do?


@140 Akulkis
Oh, is that what that was about? Never knew that.

Many of the questions on the quiz don't have valid answers for an Omega. Attractiveness of previous love interests? Not applicable. Still a pretty good test though, just offering help here.

@158 Aeoli Pera
Thanks. I just added Omega answers to the other questions asking about recent girlfriends.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 22, 2016 12:02 PM  

Prince: the Purple Knight before Black Knights were cool.

Blogger ray April 22, 2016 12:58 PM  

"Figures. I've never been more than a casual fan of most of the music I listen to, not usually caring to learn the details of artists' lives, but record labels promoting perverts does fit a certain pattern of certain persons promoting the destruction of Western Civilization."


Bowie was a better songwriter than Prince, but we didn't like either guy because both projected the homo/fagboi/effete artiste image. Not saying Prince was homo, as I do not know that. Just talking about the image they projected.

We were working-class guys from a shipyard town, and Prince prancing around onstage, flouncing in scarves etc -- not our thang. We couldn't verbalize it then, but we were (as it turned out, correctly) wary of the burgeoning alliance between white women and the homos/LGBTQZ etc. contingents. Rightly or wrongly, we saw Bowie and Prince as emblematic of these cultural betrayals. Plus, Prince was the kind of guy that would not have made it thru our high school. You didn't have to be a badass (I sure wasn't) but you did have to behave like a man, or you would get your butt kicked pretty much every day.

That's not a knock on Prince's discography, which I don't know well enough to evaluate. But it explains why the white WC guys I knew back then didn't like Prince, or disco, or the club scene, or 'theatrical' rock, or etc.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. April 22, 2016 2:44 PM  

OT Coast to Coast - I am concerned for PM DAWN:


Thursday's show, on the evening of Prince's death, rock historian R. Gary Patterson talked about the lore, mysteries, and conspiracies surrounding rock star deaths. The passing of music icon Prince "is a terribly sad story," that along with the deaths of a number of generation-spanning artists is making 2016 an especially tragic year, he commented. Curiously, Prince had recently decided to write his autobiography and felt under a rush to do it, Patterson noted. Prince's ex-girlfriend and musical protege, Vanity, had just died two months ago, at the same age as Prince, 57. Read more here at C2C

Anonymous Joseph April 22, 2016 2:52 PM  

Nice tribute.

RIP, Prince. :(

Blogger Tiny Tim April 22, 2016 2:58 PM  

Prince was a musical genius. That cannot be denied. I am sorry he is gone.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2016 3:13 PM  

"This is Vox's blog and you're pissing on the rug."

That rug really tied the room together.

Blogger Nate April 22, 2016 3:39 PM  

"That rug really tied the room together."

did it not?

Anonymous kjj April 22, 2016 10:42 PM  

Lots of people have basketball stories about Prince. I remember hearing several in the late 90s, some from bands that met him when they were playing at First Ave, and some from people that met him around town or worked on his house (compound), including a chimney cleaner. He was apparently very approachable and hospitable.

Of course after that skit, everyone thinks the stories are made up...

Blogger Hobgoblin1975 April 22, 2016 11:49 PM  

They became trendy to hate after they made a music video where people had timers counting down to their death hovering over their heads that only 1 guy could see. The video showed a pregnant woman an above her belly there was a timer for her baby. This infuriated leftist shit bags as it implies that a baby in the womb is a human and they have never been able to effectively reckon with their cognitive dissonance regarding child murder/abortion, so it became the goal to destroy Nicklebacks popularity

Blogger Stephen T. McCarthy April 25, 2016 7:50 AM  

>>... 136. I'm going to say this as a kindness so that you may choose to fix yourself: ... Examine yourself, you can be better

Been too busy to reply sooner.

1: Frankly, I was merely mildly interested in examining the various definitions for these terms. And I am not intensely interested in attempting to categorize myself. I'm original enough not to care a great deal about labels.

2: I care EVEN LESS how a fourth-rate pseudo-psychologist like you would categorize me.

3: After 56 years of being me, I'm damn sure I know myself a helluva lot better'n you know me.

>>... "You act like a secret king..."

4: Whatever the fuck a "secret king" is. Clear writing is a mark of intelligence. Practice it.

5: You can take your "kindness" and Goliath's sword and shove 'em both up your arse.

~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'

Blogger Stephen T. McCarthy April 25, 2016 7:54 AM  

I was too busy to get back here sooner.

>>... 137. "To paraphrase Otis Redding: Try A Little Kindness"
It's "try a little Tenderness, fag.


Well, that comment was certainly of standard YouTube quality.

I thought this was a blog for higher intellects. So, how the fuck did a low-IQer like you sneak in here? I guess someone forgot to lock the alley door.

Yes, I know Redding said "Tenderness", not "Kindness". And that's why I said I was paraphrasing him, NOT QUOTING HIM. I specifically changed the wording because, indeed, "Tenderness" in that context would have sounded gay, you illiterate boob!

>>... "And your prolly a Yankee on top of that, which makes you fag squared."

I'm not a "Yankee", and it should have been "you're", you illiterate boob!

>>... "fag"

Project much, little queenie?

Well, I've seen quite enough. Wonderful Christian charity in these parts. Love your work; gotta lose ya. Sign me Out!

~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'

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