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Tuesday, April 19, 2016

The Last Days of Cuckservatism

The New American reviews Cuckservative:
Cuckservative is co-written by Vox Day and John Red Eagle. Vox Day is the pseu­donym of a video game designer who has amassed quite a following in the online world with his often-controversial views. Day’s high IQ and technical approach to problem solving is felt throughout Cuckservative. Much effort is given to making the book’s main argument that immigration is the most important issue of our day and that “cuckservatives” are on the wrong side. “Thanks to their cuckservative ideology, America’s self-styled conservatives have literally betrayed the entire purpose of the Constitution of the United States, and in doing so, they have put the very survival of the nation at risk,” the authors charge.

Reading the book, one might easily feel reminded of two earlier books by Pat Buchanan: Where the Right Went Wrong: How Neoconservatives Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Hijacked the Bush Presidency, and State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America. The first book detailed the neoconservative infiltration of the conservative movement, and the latter detailed the demographic destruction caused by our immigration policy. Day, much like Buchanan before him, takes the GOP and the conservative establishment to task, but Day comes at it with an almost scientific approach. Cuckservative recounts how, almost from the beginning, the conservative movement was all too willing to purge elements that it feared might hurt its respectability in the eyes of its opponents. These “purges,” which have continued throughout all of the conservative movement’s history even to this day, “indicated a cowardly and submissive willingness to surrender when faced with public criticism.”

The vast majority of the book makes arguments against open immigration and goes into detail on the errors of the pro-immigration arguments espoused by the cuckservatives in the conservative movement. As the book explains, open immigration has been and will continue to be disastrous for anyone looking to secure political victories for the Right. The cuckservatives fail to realize this and routinely label any opponents of open borders and amnesty as “racist” or “xenophobes.” As a matter of fact, the book explains, “Today’s cuckservatives appear to be in a competition with the left to see who can open the borders wider, provide amnesty for more aliens, and add greater incentives for immigrants to retain their own culture in the place of American traditions and values.”

The cuckservative view on immigration is dismantled across multiple chapters. The “Melting Pot” is exposed as a myth. The idea that immigrants from nations with historically leftist governments will somehow miraculously become limited-government Republicans is ridiculed as the “Magic Dirt Theory.” Cuckservative explains that the “extremely high preference for expansive government among Hispanic immigrants is consistent with traditions of government in Latin America since the days of the Spanish Empire.”

These concerns are not just limited to the political realm for, as Cuckservative explains, “import people and you import their culture.” The discussions in the book are especially timely considering the refugee crisis currently unfolding in Europe.
Reading the comments of some of the commenters over there, I can't help but think some of them don't so much need to read Cuckservative as they desperately need to read SJWAL.

If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.

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56 Comments:

Blogger Alexander Thompson April 19, 2016 12:56 PM  

I can't stand the atheist youtubers turned GamerGate ecelebs that show up in my feed lately. They spend twenty minutes articalting against nonsense that can be dismissed in a minute. They have this insane idea that the other side might listen to rational debate.

Blogger CM April 19, 2016 1:01 PM  

If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.

All the wishing and hoping that things were not this way don't make it so.

My more mannerly sensibilities keep me from using the term "cuckservative", but holy crap do they make it difficult. The word WORKS on more than just a rhetorical level.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 19, 2016 1:07 PM  

Manners were murdered at Haymarket Square, CM. I say stop playing the zombie. Cuckservative hurts because it works.

Blogger Student in Blue April 19, 2016 1:13 PM  

If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.

Missing a verb. Perhaps "If you still think that a civil debate is possible where [...]"?

Anonymous BGKB April 19, 2016 1:18 PM  

Cuckservative hurts because it works.

People actually had to explain RHINO was a bad thing to call people, anyone who has read Shakespeare or Chaucer knows a cuck is a bad thing. Leftists actually defend cucks because leftists have 5' stacks of cuck porn.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy April 19, 2016 1:20 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Cuckservative hurts because it works.

… because the truth hurts.

Blogger James Higham April 19, 2016 1:26 PM  

The educational process proceeds.

Blogger RobertT April 19, 2016 1:27 PM  

Not unlike political discourse. I think I read long a held belief here recently, that IQ is sinking precipitously.

Blogger RobertT April 19, 2016 1:33 PM  

4. Student in blue.

No he's not. Well phrased compound sentence. An introductory phrase is not a complete sentence. The three verbs are enough: are, aren't & aren't.

Anonymous BGKB April 19, 2016 1:39 PM  

OT: Next stage of Tranny Tyranny. RuPaul tossed in front of buss for committing hate crime
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/gay-pride-event-bans-drag-queen-outfits-because-it-offends-the-transgendered/

"An LGBT pride march in Scotland has banned “cis” drag queens from marching out of the fear that it could offend transgender people.

Free Pride Glasgow is scheduled to take place in August, and bills itself as an alternative to the city’s main Pride event, which has allegedly become too commercialized.

“It was felt by the group within the Trans/Non Binary Caucus that some drag performance, particularly cis drag, hinges on the social view of gender and making it into a joke, however transgender individuals do not feel as though their gender identity is a joke,”

Blogger dc.sunsets April 19, 2016 1:42 PM  

Heavens. How long has the Internet been around? And people STILL think reasoned discourse, facts and debate works?

Hit 'em in their emotional testes. If that fails, rip the ligaments out of their emotional legs. These are people whose thoughts never rise above the level of emotion. They never leave their impulsive mind.

You're more likely to teach a pig to sing than you are to persuade a Blue Piller with RealTalk.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett April 19, 2016 1:46 PM  

@9

Yeah, he is. And no, they aren't.

Blogger jay c April 19, 2016 1:48 PM  

The discussions in the book are especially timely considering the refugee crisis currently unfolding in Europe.

Only missing the point by...uh...how wide is the Atlantic Ocean again?

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 19, 2016 1:51 PM  

Reasoned discourse works perfectly...with people capable of reason. For the others, a whiff of grapeshot makes an excellent argument.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 19, 2016 2:00 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:Reasoned discourse works perfectly...with people capable of reason. For the others, a whiff of grapeshot makes an excellent argument.
Grape is only useful if you want to keep the prize. The institutions of the both the Left and the Right are so corrupted that I believe it's time for chain.

Anonymous Copperhead April 19, 2016 2:04 PM  

#9 RobertT
Wrong. Student in Blue is correct.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 19, 2016 2:34 PM  

I've had commenters like Thomas Eddlem drop by my (largely unread) blog from time to time when I'm being beastly to one SJW or another.

Invariably it's the same thing. "You should only attack the ideas and not the people!"

We tried your tactics guys. They don't work. I understand that not everyone is up for a ride on the Amazing Rocket Crazy Train. I get that, I really do.

But if you think laying down on the tracks in front us is going to get us to lay on the brakes...prepare yourself for a sudden shock.

Blogger synp April 19, 2016 2:35 PM  

"If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times."

"a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled" is what?

Anonymous LastRedoubt April 19, 2016 2:40 PM  

Love this comment:

Its called going on "Offense".....the Republican establishment's idea of playing organized sports is to sit on one end of the basketball court to stop the opposing team from making baskets.... However, they DO have an elite group of offensive players...those are the "Cuckservatives"...they are the Tanya Harding's of the establishment who crowbar any conservative coming off the bench who is determined to score a basket before they hit the floor, then they either sit back down on the bench or run in to make a basket for or help with an assist for the opposing side. They are really good at that.....the establishment more than deserves what they are getting now


Especially the Tanya Harding bit

Blogger rumpole5 April 19, 2016 3:00 PM  

Why 2400 years? Birth of Aristotle? Execution of Socrates?

Anonymous Fran April 19, 2016 3:20 PM  

I wondered the same thing, rumpole. I think it has something to do with the age of the Greek philosophers too but can't see how.

Blogger James Dixon April 19, 2016 3:23 PM  

> Why 2400 years? Birth of Aristotle? Execution of Socrates?

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/rhetoric.html

Anonymous Random American April 19, 2016 3:23 PM  

Dang, it's gotten so bad that civil debate can't even!

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 19, 2016 3:24 PM  

The term is certainly useful but I think it's a mistake to use it to describe someone like Ben Shapiro. Shapiro is not the one being cucked, but one aiding and assisting the cucking of many others - particularly the Christian segment who tunes into the "conservative" division of the Lügenpresse like Fox News, Limbaugh, et al. Shapiro is a bull-blown SJW, as are his fellow 'opinion-shapers' and the Repuke establishment.

They've spent the last 70 years or thereabouts talking about opposing the program to turn the country into a slave camp as they make nice with the enemy and use Tonya Harding methods on anyone who wants to actually oppose the transformation. The R-jerseys and their Lügenpresse counterparts at NRO, etc. are conservative only in the sense that they seek to conserve the gains made by their D-jersey comrades in the long march to the shiny utopian future. I used the USSA example but exactly the same principle applies in every country which the oligarchs plan to genocide.

The true cucks are the rank and file who give to churches who are busy re-settling Somalian Musloids in places like small-town Minnesota, who line up to serve in the Banana-Empire's military adventures to enrich the ruling class thinking it's patriotism and the Darren Wilsons who think they're there to serve and protect - until they suddenly find that's not the real purpose of their employment. Cucks are folks on their way to being zeks, unless they take the red pill.

Anonymous Random American April 19, 2016 3:29 PM  

Civil debate CAN still work, IMO, but it's always been limited to a minority in special places and times, and is more limited every day.

It requires two or more people who are honest and actually looking to align themselves with reality, and actually looking for good, workable solutions to problems.

So of course, the more fragmented a society becomes, because of immigration, institutional mis-education, and constant propaganda (and we have all three in the US) the less likely this will happen.

But it was the realization of how dishonest some people were in their beliefs and debates that eventually led me away from the false promises of progressives and into a greater alignment with reality...even the shadowy mountains of lies can serve a purpose for those who are willing to climb to the light.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 19, 2016 3:33 PM  

BGKB
OT: Next stage of Tranny Tyranny. RuPaul tossed in front of buss for committing hate crime

Nah, that's on topic. The Revo always eats its own. Always. Ever since the days of Robspierre and the Directory, sooner or later the avant garde' becomes the enemy of the mob.

It's fascinating how the Bolsheviks spent so much effort on how to avoid the Thermidorian Reaction, i.e. a Napoleon, only to wind up with Stalin, who was worse by far. Once Napoleon put down the mob with cannon, it was possible to get along by shutting up and keeping one's head down, but Stalin created a machine that ground up Old Bolsheviks and anyone else that got in the way, no matter how hard they tried to appease him.

Fortunately for all of us, the modern SJW's don't have the intelligence of the Bolsheviks. Unfortunately for us, the surveillance state capabilities are far beyond anything Stalin or Mao could have dreamed of.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 19, 2016 3:35 PM  

It requires two or more people who are honest and actually looking to align themselves with reality

And who have not already figured things out for themselves. A small group, indeed, akin to finding a vegetarian among cannibals when it's you in the pot.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 19, 2016 3:36 PM  

Gen. Kong
Cucks are folks on their way to being zeks, unless they take the red pill.

+1

Blogger dc.sunsets April 19, 2016 3:36 PM  

It's fascinating how the Bolsheviks spent so much effort on how to avoid the Thermidorian Reaction

So the David Ruenzel Prize was around long before he was born. (head-slap)

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 19, 2016 4:02 PM  

@9 If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled [some verb, like "is", some object for the veb, like "possible"] you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.

I agree with SIB, that sentence is short at least one verb.

Anonymous coyote April 19, 2016 4:10 PM  

"the surveillance state capabilities"... lack sufficient manpower and intelligence to glean anything worthwhile from their techno-miraculous shit in time to do anything to save their pasty asses. the mad max is coming. thank God.

Anonymous DE-173/Code 19/Vox Nox April 19, 2016 5:03 PM  

Remember when you were a grade school kid and they told you that the beauty of democracy was that, if dissatisfied with the elected, the people could change them?

They never told you what happens when the elected erect a massive administrative superstate to vest power in unelected offices, nurture an enormous reserve army of the dependent to ensure fealty to the state, so long as it promises them bright shiny baubles, and finally open the gates to people who are already tolerant of corruption, enculturated to dependency and utterly unacquaintainted with limited government.

Anonymous Brandon April 19, 2016 5:23 PM  

Paperback copy of Cuckservative, please. It's such a great book it deserves it.

Blogger Rantor April 19, 2016 5:43 PM  

@10 so the truly psychotic, who seek surgery to change their God-assigned gender are upset with the mildly neurotic that want to play dress up outside of their God-assigned gender. But many of these neurotic cross dressers are also homosexuals or bisexuals... so I thought that they are not cisgendered.

So the liberal community is left once again with the most extreme members, if not most insane members, setting the rules which others must follow.

This is dyscivic.

Anonymous BGKB April 19, 2016 6:46 PM  

But many of these neurotic cross dressers are also homosexuals or bisexuals... so I thought that they are not cisgendered

I am actually not sure what a cis tranny is but I am sure that the RuPaul I knew back when I was in San Antonio didn't either. The definition will likely change in a few weeks anyway.

Whole Foods isn't even safe from hate hoaxes to bake a cake in Austin TX for queers without saving the workplace video from the baking to the sale. http://www.gaypatriot.net/2016/04/19/its-always-cakes-with-you-people/ I have an especially disingenuous ex in Austin.

Anonymous Quartermaster April 19, 2016 7:11 PM  

@17
Thomas Eddlem is trying to convince everyone over at new American that FedGov has no authority to deal with immigration or control the border. Most of the commenters over there are OK, but Eddlem is an idiot.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 19, 2016 7:38 PM  

@1 Alexander Thompson

They have this insane idea that the other side might listen to rational debate.
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Why waste your time with them when you know they won't or can't deal with an actual debate? Some of those guys like to hear the sound of their own voices, I think.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 19, 2016 7:42 PM  

@2 CM


My more mannerly sensibilities keep me from using the term "cuckservative", but holy crap do they make it difficult. The word WORKS on more than just a rhetorical level.
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You don't even have to use the term, if you don't want to. I've used the story of the Cuckoo bird in there to get the idea across and it's worked several times, even with elderly people.

Everybody understands on a certain level that you've been tricked into raising other peoples kids.

Another great point in the book is the part about the Preamble to the Constitution.

Anonymous Mr. Rational April 19, 2016 7:45 PM  

If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.
Point of grammar:  either "that" was intended to be "that's" or "it's", or there's an object clause missing (I think).  Regardless, I couldn't parse the section up to "dismantled".

Blogger tz April 19, 2016 8:11 PM  

If you still think that a civil debate where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.

Native American Vox, calls out paleo-faces.

Including paleo-cucks.

Blogger tz April 19, 2016 8:17 PM  

One can have a very civil debate with a lynch mob. However they will lynch you even if you win the debate.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. April 19, 2016 8:19 PM  

1. I noted that as well when I was looking up vidoes and trailers for console games. I think or hope Chateau Heastite will add a link to another link he has (awesome reading!) "things cucks say", it appears at the top of his blog. We also need a list of "things millennials say."

The economics angle Vox and Red covered is also seriously required reading meaning I have to read cuckservatism page to page.

On another note, wow I am stupid. I thought NY voting would be totally free from drama and go 70 to 80% for Trump, Drudge reports voter mess/problems, etc.

Anonymous Cassie April 19, 2016 9:46 PM  

Can't... resist... grammar... debate... augh!

I'm with @30, needs an "is effective" or something similar, like so -

If you still think that a civil debate (where the facts are thoughtfully articulated and the other side's arguments are humbly but keenly dismantled) is persuasive, you're not only wrong, you're 2,400 years behind the times.

Otherwise the sentence is missing the answer to the question "Think what about the civil debate?" Just read the sentence as if the "where" description inside parenthesis isn't there.

I didn't see it at first myself, because of course we all know what the Supreme Dark Lord of the ELOE means. Daring to correct his grammar may get us all sent to Malwyn for punishment, however.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy April 19, 2016 9:55 PM  

Mr. Rational wrote:Point of grammar:  either "that" was intended to be "that's" or "it's", or there's an object clause missing (I think).

The 'subordinate clause' (thingie introduced by "that") is missing its predicate (thingie that consists of a verb and maybe its object).

And Vox's ankles are yummy and fun to bite.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 19, 2016 10:05 PM  

Reading the comments of some of the commenters over there, I can't help but think some of them don't so much need to read Cuckservative as they desperately need to read SJWAL.

Everyone needs to read SJWAL, even SJWs (especially SJWs).

Anonymous Mr. Rational April 20, 2016 12:03 AM  

LurkingPuppy wrote:And Vox's ankles are yummy and fun to bite.
Or maybe a bunch of us would just like to know what he was trying to say there.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 20, 2016 12:25 AM  

Scott6584 wrote:Kind of Hilarious that Trump is wining in every county - except Manhattan. LOL
Isn't that where NRO has their very very very expensive brothel?
Most of the GOP voters in Manhattan are people who work for media companies. We know they all hate Trump.

Blogger peter blandings April 20, 2016 12:47 AM  

it should be noted that illegal aliens from mexico and central america have killed more americans in the last year, 2015, than the soviet union did during the entire 70 year period of the cold war. we were willing to spend and did in fact spend over 8 trillion dollars to defend america against the ussr. anyone who says we do not have the resources to deport every illegal alien now residing in the u.s. is an imbecile and a traitor.

another point needs to be made; ronald reagan is considered a conservative icon. he is a false icon. he granted amnesty to 15 MILLION illegal aliens in 1986, and having done so makes him every bit as much of a traitor as george w. bush, who unconstitutionally sent u.s. troops to invade iraq which resulted in the deaths of more than 6000 american soldiers and the maiming of an additional 70,000 for life. the entire u.s. congress was and is complicit in this treason for not holding either man accountable.

and one more, presidents are not above the law. for reagan and now obama, if they are allowed to pick and choose which laws they will enforce, then under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment, every u.s. citizen is allowed to do the same, and hence there is no law in the united states. any defendant can simply choose to reject the enforcement of any law he may have theoretically broken, citing reagan and obama as precedent, and no court can say him nay. THAT'S how fucking important this issue is.

Blogger Timothy MEEHAN April 20, 2016 1:02 AM  

@1 Hey, Jesus knows I tried in good faith. Now I can fire at will in good conscience.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy April 20, 2016 1:10 AM  

Mr. Rational wrote:Or maybe a bunch of us would just like to know what he was trying to say there.

Ah. Based on the beliefs he has espoused, I'm pretty sure he meant, between “dismantled” and the comma following it, one or more of the following: “is needed”, “can convince anyone”, or “is useful in any way whatsoever”. But yes, we shouldn't have to guess.


peter blandings wrote:it should be noted that illegal aliens from mexico and central america have killed more americans in the last year, 2015, than the soviet union did during the entire 70 year period of the cold war.

What sources (and/or definitions) are you using for those numbers?

Blogger Timothy MEEHAN April 20, 2016 1:26 AM  

@32
Remember when you were a grade school kid and they told you that the beauty of democracy was that, if dissatisfied with the elected, the people could change them?

Yes, and I also remember that voting lists were stapled to telephone poles on every street so you could check if you were on the list and call the DRO if you weren't or if someone died. (This was east end Montreal in the 70s.) If SJWs think a phone book is doxing, this would be statistical gang rape.

Blogger peter blandings April 20, 2016 1:57 AM  

@49
publicly reported crimes. all you need is the young woman who was walking on a pier in san francisco with her father last year. she was shot in the back and killed by an illegal alien. her name was Kathryn Steinle, 32. there are literally thousands more. not a single american operative nor civilian was killed by a soviet, and the converse was also true during the cold war period. even gary powers, a captured and confirmed u.s. spy, was returned to the u.s. unharmed.

Blogger peter blandings April 20, 2016 2:04 AM  

http://abc7news.com/news/family-of-sf-shooting-victim-wants-to-focus-on-her-life-legacy/830648/

Blogger Patriotic Canadian April 20, 2016 11:39 AM  

Lol more like a sudden squish. I agree also with the whiff of grapeshot being necessary at times

Blogger Patriotic Canadian April 20, 2016 11:39 AM  

Lol more like a sudden squish. I agree also with the whiff of grapeshot being necessary at times

Anonymous Simon April 20, 2016 12:16 PM  

Comments look pretty good over there to be honest, if you sort by Best.

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