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Thursday, April 28, 2016

What in the actual....

Cruz/Carly 2016: What's the point, exactly?
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz, in a last-ditch bid to slow front-runner Donald Trump's momentum, named former business executive Carly Fiorina on Wednesday as his vice presidential running mate should he win the nomination.

After crushing losses to Trump in five nominating contests in the Northeast on Tuesday, Cruz praised Fiorina, a former presidential rival, as a principled fighter for conservative values who would be a valuable ally on the campaign trail.

"Carly is a vice presidential nominee who I think is superbly skilled, superbly gifted at helping unite this party," the U.S. senator from Texas told a rally in Indianapolis, the capital of Indiana.

The Midwestern state is the next battleground for selecting the Republican and Democratic presidential candidates for the Nov. 8 presidential election and is shaping up to be Cruz’s best - and perhaps last - chance to block Trump’s march to the nomination.

Cruz acknowledged it was unusual to choose a running mate so early in the race. Traditionally, the winners of the Republican and Democratic nominating races announce their running mates in the period between clinching the nomination and summer's national conventions.
I didn't take seriously the claims that Ted Cruz might be autistic until now. Seriously, on what planet is anyone going to support HP-killer Fiorina, particularly in California? I have no idea what he's trying to accomplish with this except perhaps to submarine his campaign without actually shutting it down.

They certainly make a fascinating pair from a visual perspective. Both their faces look about 15 percent melted.

As I said previously, it's over. Like it or not, Donald Trump is the Republican Party nominee.

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Anonymous Soga April 28, 2016 8:05 AM  

Maybe it's just an excuse for him to get alone in a room with Fiorina?

Blogger Joshua_D April 28, 2016 8:08 AM  

#WINNING

Blogger Fred April 28, 2016 8:09 AM  

what about that $500k from Cruz Pac to Fiorina campaign? Very fishy. Sounds like blackmail. How about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DUdn1-NUVI...convincing evidence Teddy is not natural born and therefore ineligible for Prez/VP.

Blogger SteelPalm April 28, 2016 8:11 AM  

As a longtime Cruz supporter who switched his allegiance to Trump about 48 hours ago, there is no way to defend this. It's easily his blackest mark yet.

What I find especially hilarious is that for many months now Cruz and the "Never Trump" contingent among his supporters have been bellowing from the rooftops that Trump is a leftist and no conservative. (Correct on the latter and partially correct on the former)

It was valid criticism, too.

But after all that, Cruz nominates Fiorina, who is FAR more left-wing, and was a Democrat more recently than Trump. She agrees with feminism, affirmative action, has abundantly praised Hillary Clinton as a "champion of women", AND has kowtowed to the excellence of the Death Cult, noting how much the Western society owes to it.

Take every single negative about Trump's positions, multiply it by 10, add several other huge negatives (the feminism, affirmative action, and love of the Death Cult), with none of Trump's positives, and you have Fiorina.

Predictably, many of Cruz's remaining supporters cheer wildly at this blatant hypocrisy. The same blatant hypocrisy they claim to abhor in Trump.

Oh well, the more perceptive Cruz fans will switch allegiance to Trump.

Anonymous Albert April 28, 2016 8:21 AM  

I rather suspect that Ted is tilting.

Blogger seeingsights April 28, 2016 8:22 AM  

I consider what Cruz did like a Hail Mary pass in football. Cruz thinks that by picking Fiorina, he might get more votes in the primaries, and thus increase the chances of a brokered convention. Cruz is in effect saying that with a female running mate, he will have more mainstream appeal in the general election. However, I give only about 20 percent chance of a brokered convention.

Reagan, in his incredible challenge to incumbent Gerald Ford in the 1976 primaries, named Schweiker, who had a moderate voting record in the Senate, as his candidate for Vice President to balance the ticket. This was regarded as a somewhat unusual move, as Reagan had not yet won the nomination.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 28, 2016 8:23 AM  

Vox, you called it from the beginning.

Congrats.

Blogger Nate April 28, 2016 8:25 AM  

Carly... Holy shit what an amazing fuck up this is. As I have said... to me this is the best evidence yet that Ted really was banging her campaign girl.

Blogger Josh April 28, 2016 8:26 AM  

Ted Cruz is a complete fucking retard

Blogger Josh April 28, 2016 8:26 AM  

#NeverCruz

Blogger Nate April 28, 2016 8:26 AM  

"Oh well, the more perceptive Cruz fans will switch allegiance to Trump"

maybe eventually. I think for now they'll throw up their hands in disgust and disappointment and just walk away. They'll probably come back at some point during the general election just to spite Hillary... but for now... I expect frustration and exasperation from them.

Blogger Josh April 28, 2016 8:28 AM  

Carly was the biggest super hawk on the debate stage in the fall.

Blogger Joshua_D April 28, 2016 8:33 AM  

Josh April 28, 2016 8:28 AM

Carly was the biggest super hawk on the debate stage in the fall.


Right?

Cruz basically just told everyone, "When I'm president, we're going to stir more shit up in the Middle East and hopefully go to war with Russia!"

Maybe Cruz will name Jeb! as a his Secretary of State.

Blogger Josh April 28, 2016 8:35 AM  

Maybe Cruz will name Jeb! as a his Secretary of State.

Please clap?

Blogger tz April 28, 2016 8:37 AM  

Maybe have Carly try to play the "Trump is a sexist" card.

Anonymous DJJ April 28, 2016 8:38 AM  

After what she did to Lucent, there's no love lost for her in New Jewrsey also.

Blogger James Dixon April 28, 2016 8:38 AM  

> Maybe Cruz will name Jeb! as a his Secretary of State.

I expect Rubio to be stepping down as Senator and that Jeb will named to replace him.

Blogger Nick S April 28, 2016 8:38 AM  

The only reasonable thing left to do is join the Trumpsperiment and hope for the best. I'll try to contain my exuberance.

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 28, 2016 8:40 AM  

It is very, very simple:

Cruz failed his masters. He was offered the choice of "live boy or dead girl?"

He picked the dead girl.

Blogger Keyser Soze April 28, 2016 8:43 AM  

Maybe fiorina is The party choice if trump doesn't make 1237?? Now that she is in the running!?!?!?

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 8:43 AM  

Perhaps Ted has a cunning plan.

And perhaps it involves a giant turnip.

Anonymous Bobby Farr April 28, 2016 8:46 AM  

Genius move. Cruz managed to shred whatever remaining right wing credibility he may have had by choosing a leftist VP, demonstrates his complete adoption of the GOPe cuck mindset by thinking an affirmative action VP will equal votes and ensures his fishy $500K payment to Carly's campaign will be carefully scrutinized for another two months.

Anonymous Punisher April 28, 2016 8:53 AM  

The Cruzbots are out in force in the Fox News comment section defending his decision. The death convulsions are getting more violent for his fan club.

Blogger ZhukovG April 28, 2016 8:54 AM  

@20

Perhaps the turnip is humorously shaped. Has anyone seen Rowan Atkinson around the Cruz camp?

Blogger J A Baker April 28, 2016 8:54 AM  

Carly seems to be just as delusional as Cruz is with this latest stunt. The only explanation I can come up with to explain this would be that Cruz is running low on funds and needs to combine resources with Carly to make it through May.

Blogger Gaiseric April 28, 2016 8:56 AM  

@24: What funds does Carly have?

Blogger Elocutioner April 28, 2016 8:57 AM  

Now we have "former Vice Presidential candidate Carly Fiorina" which looks good. On paper. That's a nice vanity consolation prize. Unsure yet if this is a result of the infidelity/hush money issue or an insider maneuver to position her for a future campaign.

Also, Cruz gets splattered in Indiana next week leaving Kasich as the last standing opponent for the pipe dream of a brokered convention.

Blogger CarpeOro April 28, 2016 8:58 AM  

kfg wrote:Perhaps Ted has a cunning plan.

And perhaps it involves a giant turnip.


More like a giant wooden rabbit.

Just took the annual "Die-versity and Inlusion" cbt at work. They did have one correct line - a good working environment requires high trust levels. They just missed the point that most of what they preach is in direct opposition to it. More and more I wish I had become an electrician instead of going into IT.

Blogger Cecil Henry April 28, 2016 9:00 AM  

AS Bill STill demonstrates, Cruz is not even a natural born American.

So its all a moot point.

Blogger Ron April 28, 2016 9:05 AM  

Mike Cernovich made the point that a lot of the pundits dont actually sell books, they make their money regurgitating the crap that, as he put it, "their billionaire sugar daddies want them to say"

Similarly Daniel Greenfield pointed out that Bernie Sanders intends to keep campaigning till the bitter end because as long as he is campaogning, the gravy train keeps going.

Aside from the paycheck, there is an additional reason. Showing that you can make a ruckuss by having a large number of people follow you is a demonstration of power.

Think of this campaign as an extended job interview, not just for president but political office in general. "But im not falling for that!" Yiu exclaim, "only a total idiot would believe that guy is fit for office!"

Yes. But even aside from that, its a display of his ability to organize, coordinate, work within the halls of power, and most importantly, the tenacity to fight. These are all virtuous qualities and he is making the most of it.

Also, there is no such thing as "bad press", if your name is out there, it is out there, and Cruz is making sure that his name gets out there.

Blogger David-093 April 28, 2016 9:06 AM  

Cruz is an extremely intelligent guy and I was actually hoping he had an epic almost super villain-like plan for this campaign, but this honestly just looks like a case of major blackmail being called in by Fiorina.

"I know all about your affairs."
"You don't know any of the girls names though."
"I'm not talking about the girls."
"It is with great pleasure that I announce Carly Fiorina as my Vice Presidential candidate."

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 28, 2016 9:08 AM  

"I'm not talking about the girls."

Would not be surprising.

Anonymous Broken Arrow April 28, 2016 9:12 AM  

There's definitely something we aren't seeing here.

Blogger Ron April 28, 2016 9:13 AM  

Also, its obvious hes going to lose, so no one of principle os going to sign on, because while its OK to be the guy that finished second, it is not OK to sign on as the minister of the guy who finished second.

Fiorino is his admission that it is over, but hes going to keep fighting. We all know she actually deserves to have all her savings liquidated and handed over to the people whose lives she ruined with her incompetant leadership. But to beuracrats, shes a minor hero precisely because she deserves to be a nobody due to her utter lack of vision and talent, yet shes still managed TO GAME THE SYSTEM.

So this appointment is also a nod to all the hacks out there.

Blogger Nate April 28, 2016 9:13 AM  

The only benefit I can see to have Carly is to sick her on Hillary. and even that is a wash... its just two useless incompetent harpies hissing at each other.

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 9:14 AM  

"Showing that you can make a ruckuss by having a large number of people follow you is a demonstration of power."

Bernie has never had power. In fact, he's made his lack of power his schtick and, as I've pointed out before, it's why Vermonters keep electing him.

So most people outside of Vermont had never heard of him before this election cycle. There is a smack of getting his name out there on the national scene about the whole thing.

The question is, for what?

Blogger Nate April 28, 2016 9:16 AM  

""I know all about your affairs."
"You don't know any of the girls names though."
"I'm not talking about the girls."
"It is with great pleasure that I announce Carly Fiorina as my Vice Presidential candidate."

Its more like this:

"Hey remember that 500k you gave me to keep quiet about the affair you had with my campaign manager? I haven't been in the news much lately... and there are two obvious ways to change that."

Blogger praetorian April 28, 2016 9:16 AM  

Blown strategy as strategy.

Brilliant.

Anonymous Steve April 28, 2016 9:16 AM  

I didn't take seriously the claims that Ted Cruz might be autistic until now.

Ahtodaso.

In sarcastic news, Carly "America's Sweetheart" Fiorina will make voters fall in love... with Ted Cruz!

While at HP the popular CEO, who reminds many people of a C.S. Lewis character, earned the affectionate nickname "Waxface: Destroyer of Jobs".

Blogger Student in Blue April 28, 2016 9:17 AM  

Posting in this thread since it's more pertinent here:
@Nate
I mean holy shit is that a terrible pick. Completely indefensible. In fact... the only reason I can think of that Cruz would pick her is if he really was banging her campaign chairgirl.

But apologies Student in Blue.

This isn't a meltdown. At least it isn't yet. This is definitely a collapse though. After this I bet he loses Indiana by 20 points.


It's fine, and I agree it's not a meltdown. However it's certainly indicative of the pressure he's putting himself under and his mental health if he considers this his best move.

He's got that classic case of 'calculating thinker' who relies almost completely on his thinking, who doesn't have things work out to his calculations. It really REALLY gnaws at him and eventually his emotions which he isn't used to using will burst the dam.

I'm guessing after Indiana is when he'll just come off the hinges. It's up in the air whether or not it'll happen publically (i.e. meltdown) or if it'll happen when cameras aren't filming.

Anonymous BGKB April 28, 2016 9:18 AM  

Maybe fiorina is The party choice if trump doesn't make 1237?? Now that she is in the running!?!?!?

They might put up Prescott Bush.

More and more I wish I had become an electrician instead of going into IT.

At least their incompetent people can kill themselves.

Showing that you can make a ruckuss by having a large number of people follow you is a demonstration of power.

He should have been done when the 2 black girls knocked him off the podium in front of ""10,000"" supporters.

Also, there is no such thing as "bad press", if your name is out there,

"Teddy slept with 100+ hookers" wouldn't work out as well as it did for Bill C.

Anonymous Leonidas April 28, 2016 9:19 AM  

I didn't take seriously the claims that Ted Cruz might be autistic until now. Seriously, on what planet is anyone going to support HP-killer Fiorina, particularly in California? I have no idea what he's trying to accomplish with this except perhaps to submarine his campaign without actually shutting it down.

Remember, high functioning autism doesn't mean you can't learn social skills and how people function - it means you have to learn them, because you don't understand them instinctively. Ted Cruz is also very smart however. What he's doing is trying to copy Donald Trump's campaign techniques. Specifically, in this case, he's trying to copy the "assume the sale" technique. Also, as an Aspie, he has no understanding of Game - so he thinks in the blue pill world that Fiorina is a great pick to counter Hillary because she's female.

The blue pill part he's unlikely to learn better on, unless someone puts a bunch of manosphere text in front of his face. The technique of assuming the sale, however... he failed so spectacularly on the first try because of the Aspergers. Give him four years, though, and he'll have the technique down pretty well.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 28, 2016 9:20 AM  

The Fiorina pick REEKED of desperation. It's a gimmick that failed when Reagan tried it in 1976, and it still won't work.

I honestly think the allegations of the Cruz-Kasich deal against Trump did Cruz's campaign in. Gaming the system to win delegates is one thing, but conniving with rivals to shut someone out is precisely the sort of business that has voters enraged.

Damn it, Ted, at least go down with some dignity - it'll stand you in much better stead further down the road.

Blogger Phillip George April 28, 2016 9:20 AM  

Nate, it's totally bizarre. If this were all about stick it to Hillary there are more than enough black disabled Islamic lesbians who would have been perfectly competent VP's and not have to check their White privilege. As Vox says, what was he thinking?

Your average college feminist should be utterly appalled at this invasion. It's like he's burned crosses in their dorm.

Blogger Sean Carnegie April 28, 2016 9:22 AM  

Like it or not, Donald Trump is the 45th President of the United States of America .

There, FIFY.

Blogger Shimshon April 28, 2016 9:23 AM  

While women as a general rule vote for Team Women, there's one thing that (ahem) reliably trumps that, and that is the Alpha man. I predict women will break for Trump in much higher numbers than any of the political class expects (feminists excepted of course).

Blogger J A Baker April 28, 2016 9:24 AM  

I don't know what funds Carly has, perhaps she still has some of that $500,000 that Cruz's campaign gave to her.

But here is another take along the same lines. After Tuesday nights losses Cruz's campaign mau be dead or near to it.

Now in when asked about Cruz's decision to pick a VP so soon, Trump in an interview on Fox news said that Cruz is running a psychological campaign.

So perhaps Cruz's campaign is dead. But Cruz knows he's not going to win on the first ballot anyway, so now he has to stay relevant and in the news cycle until the convention, so pulling stunts like joining forces with Kasich and picking a VP are helping him stay in the news cycle which gives the false appearance that his campaign is still alive and well.

It's all about survive until the convention, and it's just like Carly said herself, Cruz will do and say anything to get elected.

Blogger Sean Carnegie April 28, 2016 9:26 AM  

What could Carly possibly have that'd put her ahead of Shrillary in anybody's mind?

"At least I still sleep with my husband?"

Blogger Elocutioner April 28, 2016 9:28 AM  

In case anyone is still under under the illusion that Snarly is anything but a sleazy DC insider here's some more background info on her. She was there to counter the "War on Women" crap that Trump has already deftly nuked.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/04/27/tripwire-alert-a-desperate-ted-cruz-announces-carly-fiorina-as-running-mate/

Blogger Salt April 28, 2016 9:29 AM  

Hey, come on now! Cruz chose Carly because, being former CEO HP, she hopefully has enough knowledge to understand the need to secure private servers.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 9:31 AM  

@SteelPalm
I wonder if Cruz bought his own B.S. about Trump being liberal, so decided to pick a liberal running mate.

I suspect the factor Nate brought up is also figuring into this. I mean, you'd think nobody would be making him break tradition about his running mate... but OTOH, women tend to push for breaking traditions.

@Josh @Joshua_D

Dirty little secret: female heads of state are more likely to start wars.

I didn't take seriously the claims that Ted Cruz might be autistic until now. Seriously, on what planet is anyone going to support HP-killer Fiorina, particularly in California? I have no idea what he's trying to accomplish with this except perhaps to submarine his campaign without actually shutting it down.

Maybe the word in his campaign is that Indiana is far friendlier to Trump than Wisconsin was (especially with Trump's assist from Coach Bobby Knight) and that he's screwed, but his ego is keeping him from bowing out until it's very very obvious.

Before all this, I was expecting Indiana to be close like Missouri. Now I expect Trump to win comfortably.

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 9:35 AM  

Thank you, Lord, for making our enemies ridiculous.

Maybe Ted saw the Ilk commenter who called his people 'Cruzlims' and thought a woman VP was a good way to show that this was not true.

Either way, the (Trump) train is fine.

Blogger Student in Blue April 28, 2016 9:37 AM  

In a previous thread, I called that Kasich would place ahead of Cruz in Indiana.

This might very well be the case, just not in the fashion that I expected.

Anonymous karsten April 28, 2016 9:39 AM  

Maybe have Carly try to play the "Trump is a sexist" card.

That's what this is all about. Cruz heard CNN harping about how Christie's shrew wife rolled her eyes when Trump said that Hillary would be at 5% if she were a man, and thought:

"That's how I'll beat Trump in Indiana: I'll pick a [purportedly] female running mate and thus win Indiana by getting all the stupid female voters to support my ticket, because Trump is a 'sexist,' whereas I've got a 'successful woman' [I know -- the irony] on my team."

It's an obvious ploy for the female GOP vote.

And if it works to put Cruz over the top in Indiana, then it's case #562540 about why women should not be allowed to vote. Ever.

Blogger James Higham April 28, 2016 9:40 AM  

So enjoying this whole show. America's far more entertaining in its politics than we are.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 28, 2016 9:42 AM  

You can't blame Cruz for trying to keep his head above water. If Trump doesn't win on the first ballot, I'd give him less than a 50% chance of winning the nomination at all.

On the other hand, Cruz has been imploding over the last week. Kasich has been moving into second place...and if asked to pick between Trump and Kasich, I'll pick Trump by a country mile. Kasich is Paul Ryan 25 years older...precisely the "go along to get along" sort that people are furious about.

What has me worried is the GOPe trying to knife Trump in the back. Not support him, let him lose, then use the Tea Party voters as a scapegoat.

Something I don't recollect Vox mentioning is that Trump has strong links to Newt Gingrich...and the GOPe hates Gingrich with a passion, because he's not just a revolutionary, he's a revolutionary who understands the system. If Trump listens to him, it's a very good sign.

I figure that for Trump, the primaries are effectively over after Indiana. There are more states, but the outcomes are pretty well known. Trump will either come very close on the first ballot, or win.

What the anti-Trump forces need to be thinking of is a None Of The Above dark horse for the second ballot. Someone not on the 2016 or 2012 list. General Mattis would do. Governor Scott. Hell, I'll take the job.

As for Trump, he needs to move...not to the center, but to the serious. He's got to get up to speed on the issues, put together a really solid cadre of advisors. His vulnerability is a lack of experience in Federal government - it's NOT a business. Trump needs to have a shadow Cabinet roughed out, preferably before he gets to the convention.

He's shown the showman, it's time to trot out the businessman.

Blogger JCclimber April 28, 2016 9:45 AM  

Heh, most of you must be reading on Zerohedge, but I can tell you that most Kalifornia voters are idiots. Look who our two senators have been for 16+ years!
Most people here frankly do not realize that Fiorina wrecked HP. Because HP is still in business and that is all they know.

You see, Carly has the magic vagina, and is a former CEO, and go-girl! She would make a great virtue-signal. Voters really are that dumb around here.

But this move reeks so badly of desperation, and Trump is alpha enough, that it is going to backfire even in Kalifornia.

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 9:48 AM  

JCclimber, I get that...

But surely most Kalifornians are voting left of the ticket, anyway.

Are republican-primary voters going to be in any way impressed?

Blogger Blackburn #0040 April 28, 2016 9:48 AM  

They certainly make a fascinating pair from a visual perspective. Both their faces look about 15 percent melted.

Anybody see The Astronaut's Wife? Just sayin'

I, for one, welcome our new autistic cuckservative/lefty human-alien hybrid overlords.

OpenID frankluke.com April 28, 2016 9:52 AM  

I caucused for Cruz in Iowa. In primary seasons in the past, my guy has not won the nomination (I think that might even be the majority of my primary votes), but I've never regretted my vote afterwards. As Cruz has gone off the rails, I've been saddened. It wasn't long after Iowa that I Strangeloved this election cycle; I learned to stop worrying and embrace the Trumpening. Still, I didn't regret my ballot for Cruz.

As of yesterday, I regret it.

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 9:57 AM  

As I've been saying every since the threat of a brokered convention began to unfold:

It's not the Trump supporters you have to worry about, it's the Cruz supporters who wake up to find they were secretly voting for Paul Ryan.

Now granted, this is slightly different, but the big picture hasn't changed: there is going to be a surge of anti GOPe sentiment as we head into the summer, fueled by jilted Cruz supporters.

Top. Men. Top. Kek.

Blogger Lobo Util April 28, 2016 9:57 AM  

You have failed to explore what Carly gets out of it.

1. A chance to cover the campaign debts that are still outstanding: monetary, political, and personal.

2. The chance to divvy up contributions through her favorite consultants,

3. One last chance to spit in Trump's face for saying no one wants to look at her face.

4. A chance to build up IOU's with the establishment folks who are trying to get Cruz to force a second ballot convention so she can be Secretary of Commerce, thus returning to her first job out of college and being a secretary again. It's a circle of life thing!

What other reasons?

OpenID denektenorsk April 28, 2016 9:58 AM  

My take is Cruz is trying to distinguish himself from Trump subconsciously. You'll see her standing off to his side with every speech/rally from here on out. The message (IMO) is: "I play nice with powerful women vs Donald Trump who is a sexist that calls women mean names."

Expect Fiorina to throw a few 'Donald Trump is a horrible, sexist pig' barbs from here until atleast that interview.

It's a desperate attempt to get out in front of Donalds interview with Meagan Kelly on May 17th. That's a key part of the campaign becoming more "presidential" and him fixing his perceived problem with Vaginaed Americans.

On a related note the alliance with Kasich is pure insanity. Kasich is irrelevant... where else will he possibly do well? This only hurts Cruz. The principled outsider bit is an even harder sell when he employs collusion and dirty tricks (such as throwing primary states races) for political gains.

Until a few months many people could have taken either Trump or Cruz. Trump figured out early on to not initiate attacks on Cruz (at the time a fellow outsider) as it it hurt Trumps polling numbers, not Cruz. Then Cruz imploded earlier this year, started attacking Trump and people who were sympathetic to both moved to the Trump camp. Put simply, if I like both A and B and B needlessly attacks A, I tend to like A more.

Anonymous VFM #6036 April 28, 2016 10:02 AM  

The 15% Meltface Party is a 3rd Party I could get behind. Cause I sure don't want to see them coming from the front.

Blogger CarpeOro April 28, 2016 10:04 AM  

On reflection, maybe this was the final action to buy his way into the GOPe. His wife was a good start, but this proves his bonafides. Maybe promises of a 2020 or 2024 run if he proved his fealty to them (they'll try to turn over the presidency to the other wing of the bi-factional party for this election).

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz April 28, 2016 10:07 AM  

The Cruz Train is fine!

Anonymous DDT April 28, 2016 10:07 AM  

I think the reason he's choosing Fiorina is straightforward: he's trying to provoke Trump into a well-timed gaffe.

Remember that Fiorina is someone Trump had to suck up to a bit during the campaign, since he knocked her on her looks. She is, from what I recall, the only person who managed to get him to ease up and play nice. ('She is a lovely woman' or whatever it was.) And when Trump went after Cruz's wife, he had one of the worst moments of his entire campaign.

People were wondering why Cruz was acting like a tremendous cocksucker during his Colorado shenanigans ('The rules are the rules, Donald.', 'Stop whining, Donald.') since it made Cruz himself look unlikeable. It was for that reason. Cruz has deduced that Trump has a bad temper when provoked, so the goal is to provoke him.

Fiorina isn't there to boost Cruz in California. She's there to act as a land mine, with the goal being to get Trump to step on it at all costs, and soon too. If Trump doesn't go for the bait or self-destruct in some way, it's pointless.

And I think Trump realizes that, which is why he's not knocking Carly, but treating the whole thing as a non-event.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 28, 2016 10:09 AM  

The Butterface Party.

Blogger Rusty Fife April 28, 2016 10:10 AM  

frankluke.com wrote:

As of yesterday, I regret it


You should have no regrets. This is why a nice long combative selection process works.

Say what you will, Obama is probably a better President than Clinton would have been. She would have sold Alaska back to the Russians.

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 10:11 AM  

@63

Trump's already killed that though. If you hate Trump, you already do, and nobody who is on-the-fence between the two is thinking THAT SEXIST TRUMP.

And frankly, when I read "Donald Trump who is a sexist that calls women mean names," my brain auto completes the sentence with "only Rosie O'donnell".

Which makes me chuckle and award Trump another +1 approval point.

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 10:14 AM  

"I think the reason he's choosing Fiorina is straightforward: he's trying to provoke Trump into a well-timed gaffe."

Which Trump could trump by simply announcing a solid VP pick that everyone can get behind, making what's left of the Cruz campaign look like an even smaller clown car.

Mining your own field only works if you can get the enemy to come to you.

Blogger J A Baker April 28, 2016 10:20 AM  

Carson was interviewed on Fox and asked who he thought would be on Trump's short list for VP, and Carson said something along the lines that it would be someone who had that understood the countries financial and security needs. The interviewer, (Laura Ingram I think) said that the someone financial was a good hint as if she had someone in mind. I wonder who. Any thoughts?

Blogger YIH April 28, 2016 10:21 AM  

As I said last night, Cruz obliterated any credibility he had left. Ruin of multiple companies, H1b supporter, unpleasant, and a epic fail in both Senate and Prez races.
It seems they came together over a nice game of chess.
And on islam? Totally wrong:
As we work together, let us remember the example of Muhammad. When the Prophet Muhammad was still a young man, a stone fell from the Ka'ba. In response, the tribes of Mecca quarreled over which one would have the honor of returning it to its place. Rather than choosing one tribe over another, the young Muhammad solved the problem by placing the stone on a cloth so each tribe could hold a corner of the cloth, and all the tribes could lift it together.
May the wisdom of the Prophet Muhammad inspire us this week, and may his wisdom guide the Arab world as it works together to write a new story of the ages for our time.

That's worse than Shrub or even 0bama.

Blogger J A Baker April 28, 2016 10:24 AM  

Good analysis. Hadn't thought of the whole baiting thing.

Anonymous DDT April 28, 2016 10:25 AM  

Mining your own field only works if you can get the enemy to come to you.

I agree. I don't think it will work. But Cruz/the GOPe is desperate at this point. So far, the only thing that has worked against Trump is when he's fucked up on his own. The goal is to provoke, and crucially, to do it before he has time to recover from it for a major primary.

If they can't do that, they're sunk.

Anonymous BGKB April 28, 2016 10:29 AM  

And frankly, when I read "Donald Trump who is a sexist that calls women mean names,"

Peirce Morgan proving even a broke clock can be right twice a year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3562002/PIERS-MORGAN-comes-women-s-card-Donald-holds-Trumps-knows-Women-Want-isn-t-Hillary.html

Blogger Alex April 28, 2016 10:31 AM  

As an aside, sharing this blog post to Google Plus has shown that Google now seems to be shadow banning links. I've tried to post twice to my circles, and both times it disappears shortly after posting. Another user tried, and the same thing happened.

Anonymous mature craig April 28, 2016 10:31 AM  

I heard rumors of Trump Cruz ticket I believe in Ann Coulter column. I have this feeling that Cruz is not going to go away maybe I am wrong

Blogger bob k. mando April 28, 2016 10:32 AM  

55. James Higham April 28, 2016 9:40 AM
So enjoying this whole show. America's far more entertaining in its politics than we are.



just wait until Trump reprises his 'shaving Vince McMahon' skit, shaves Hillary's ass and makes her walk backwards.

Blogger J A Baker April 28, 2016 10:35 AM  

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Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 10:39 AM  

kfg,

Trump won't name a VP - he isn't going to be seen following Cruz's lead and he's certainly not going to prematurely throw away a political carrot because of him, either.

OpenID denektenorsk April 28, 2016 10:45 AM  

And frankly, when I read "Donald Trump who is a sexist that calls women mean names," my brain auto completes the sentence with "only Rosie O'donnell".

An observation, not what I believe. Did you see this?

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/04/26/trump-on-threats-of-rosie-odonnell-lena-dunham-moving-to-canada-if-he-is-elected-a-great-thing-for-our-country/

I LOLed. BTW, I'm Canadian - we don't want them either.

Anonymous mature craig April 28, 2016 10:50 AM  

@10:07 DDT. I see it pretty much that way as well. Nice post

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 10:51 AM  

Ha!

First thing Canada will do in a Trump presidency, build a wall!

What I like best about the threat though is that to show their virtue of being against Trumpenfuhrer building a wall and evicting the latin squatters, the progs will show solidarity by leaving in the opposite direction!

Anonymous Gecko April 28, 2016 10:53 AM  

John Boehner Calls Ted Cruz "A Miserable Son Of A Bitch, Lucifer In The Flesh"

A move that might stand a snowball's chance of boosting Cruz's numbers, but too little too late. It's pathetic that they're just now starting to figure out how this game is played.

Anonymous rubberducky April 28, 2016 10:53 AM  

Close observers should be well disabused now of this notion that there was ever anything of substance to Ted Cruz, despite all the ballyhooing that there was.

Cruz had 11 debates to uncork that supposed well of profundity that he is said to posses. He never did despite ample opportunity. Particularly after the airport bombing in Brussels, we saw the jig was up on that. Here we had a high tragedy, a action of pure evil upon the land and against the people. Everybody was talking about ISIS, Islamic terror, the ongoing migration-invasion, etc. And where was Cruz? Running up the closest microphone in order to lecture us on how this all proves Trump wrong on NATO. Really?

Sorry, Cruz-Davidians, your boy is not concerned so much with substance than with craven opportunism and narrative bending.

This latest stunt with Fiorina is more proof of that.

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 10:58 AM  

"Trump won't name a VP . . ."

He doesn't have to. He only has to give the public the impression that he will do damned sight better with his pick than Cruz did.

But if he did, I don't think the public would interpret it so much as following Cruz's lead as crushing him like a bug.

" . . . he's certainly not going to prematurely throw away a political carrot because of him, either."

No, he's certainly not, although I won't be surprised at all if all gets out of the "deal" is a solid looking ticket anyway.

I expect most of the power brokering will go on over cabinet posts and court appointees.

Anonymous mature craig April 28, 2016 11:11 AM  

Craven oppotunism and narrative bending. That's just fantastic use of the English Language. If in in a kind mood I would leave out craven.

Blogger YIH April 28, 2016 11:12 AM  

I'll just leave this here:
https://store.tedcruz.org/product/make-pc-great-again-hat/

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 28, 2016 11:12 AM  

Albert:
I rather suspect that Ted is tilting.

Tilting? Or is the mask melting half away. revealing the Pedo-Bear within? It stinks of a third-party run to me with some payola added in. It's not as if Cruzman-Sachs hasn't access to the Uncle Bankfein's magic money machine.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 28, 2016 11:13 AM  

You know the political situation is in an inverted, flat spin when the best option provided is termed, "Trumpsperiment." (H/t to Nate.)

Blogger dc.sunsets April 28, 2016 11:18 AM  

Anyone who thinks Cruz's citizenship status matters may also think HillBilly will be indicted for the obvious, black-letter-law crimes she committed.

We are way past the point where written laws govern any member of the ruling cabal (in good standing.)

Blogger Nate April 28, 2016 11:20 AM  

"It's fine, and I agree it's not a meltdown. However it's certainly indicative of the pressure he's putting himself under and his mental health if he considers this his best move."

Not a golfer... but students of the game will tell you that under pressure... its the decision making that goes first.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 28, 2016 11:21 AM  

"Showing that you can make a ruckuss by having a large number of people follow you is a demonstration of power."

Exactly. This is how men or women buy in to the Great Game and remain both relevant & (more importantly) untouchable. Some animals are more equal than others.

Anonymous DNW April 28, 2016 11:21 AM  


It will be interesting, assuming that Trump actually is the Republican candidate, to see just how many of his cross-over, often-don't-vote, survey poll supporters will rouse themselves from their bitch-session damn-them-all stupors and to get to the polls. Or to actually mail in a ballot.

If his primary voters do likewise, who knows, he may lose in somewhat less than epic fashion.

Blogger Sevron April 28, 2016 11:22 AM  

Make PCGreat Again? What the hell?

Blogger Sevron April 28, 2016 11:23 AM  

I voted in the only primary of my life to get Cruz to the Senate. I greatly enjoyed his senatorial hijinks, but this election has soured me on him for good. Can't believe he's such a shit weasel.

Blogger Timmy3 April 28, 2016 11:27 AM  

I expect Trump to win the nomination, but I don't expect Cruz voters to abandon him right now. As a Cruz supporter, I will vote for him in California. Regardless, this means Cruz's campaign will continue and he won't concede until absolutely necessary. People will obviously say what's the point? Well if Kasich can remain in the race with only one state win, why should Cruz bow-out before Kasich?

Blogger YIH April 28, 2016 11:31 AM  

Sevron:
I think he meant it as a dig at Trump.
But it comes off as the old ''We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you!''

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 28, 2016 11:32 AM  

As for the “why”, doesn’t Cruz have the benefit of former advisors to ¡Jeb! right about now?

"Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Carly Fiorina! Please clap."

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 28, 2016 11:34 AM  

As for the “why”, doesn’t Cruz have the benefit of former advisors to ¡Jeb! right about now?

"Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Carly Fiorina! Please clap."

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 28, 2016 11:37 AM  

@98 Timmy3, Steve Deace is laying the rhetorical groundwork to justify a 3rd Party - basically a "Revolutionary, 1st Principles Conservative Party" that is dedicated to exporting war and virtue signalling on abortion while scoffing at the content of Trump's epic speech on America for Americans.

If you want a useless, globalist 3rd Party that tries to hand the reigns to Hillary, stick with your plan.

OpenID aegis-1080 April 28, 2016 11:38 AM  

"Well if Kasich can remain in the race with only one state win, why should Cruz bow-out before Kasich?"

Because all your "we must unite the party" whining looks massively hypocritical? This goes for everybody on the GOPe, don't worry.

Trump is the nominee and people are already sick of this primary. Those are the facts. Deal with it.

Blogger clk April 28, 2016 11:41 AM  

Actually .. except here in VD land (where there's a lot of tech savvy people who hold Carly as the person responsible for the destruction of what was the world best tech company in the world) ..its not a bad idea.

The argument in round two (once Trump doesn't get the magic number) is going to be who can run against Hillary... Cruz would argue that as the 2nd highest vote winner he is the choice and the addition of Carly (whom I despise for what she did to HP) moves the ticket towards the middle and provides some vaccination to Hillary's women factor.

There will be some Trump supporters that will not vote if he doesn't get the nomination but a strong case will be made that a Democrat is an evil that needs to be avoided so some of his voters will vote republican. Hillary has the African American vote locked in so whats another potential big block -- 52% of the population are women - Carly can help split that block.. then Cruz can stitch together a majority using evangelicals/religious folks, former trump supporters and existing right-middle republicans. This plays to weakness of Hillary vs Sanders... I think there are a few Trump supports that if they don't get Trump, would have supported Sanders but never would support Hillary...

I would not be surprised if Trump pulls out a woman or a minority (black or Hispanic) as his VP pick...

It does has a aspect of a hail mary play but what are his choices ? -- its probably one of the few plays Cruz has left to play...

Anonymous Laybay April 28, 2016 11:46 AM  

"Well if Kasich can remain in the race with only one state win, why should Cruz bow-out before Kasich?"

It would be a sign a maturity for one. The ability to lose with grace and composure, not grasping at the last tattered shreds of hope.

"...to accept our failures, as well as our successes, with quiet dignity and grace." ~Dr. Frankenstein

Blogger Timmy3 April 28, 2016 11:50 AM  

"Because all your "we must unite the party" whining looks massively hypocritical? This goes for everybody on the GOPe, don't worry."

You don't have to unite the party before the convention. Why jump the gun? The remaining primaries remain to be fought. Certainly it might seem hopeless for Cruz, but heck.

Don't worry. I'll vote for Trump when he becomes the nominee AT THE CONVENTION.

Blogger FALPhil April 28, 2016 11:59 AM  

@84 Alexander wrote:
First thing Canada will do in a Trump presidency, build a wall!

Funniest post of the thread. And they will do it with all those 3rd world immigrants who showed up in Canada for the welfare.

Blogger S1AL April 28, 2016 12:02 PM  

I had the same thought this morning re: throwing the contest. The question is if Cruz can find a way to benefit from picking Fiorina, specifically, while tossing his own campaign.

There is the possibility that he knows he can't win a brokered convention, and he's alienated the establishment, so he's handing the nomination to Trump while proving his equalitarian bona fides and removing Fiorina from consideration.

Either that or he just screwed up horrifically.

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 12:04 PM  

Making Fiorina grate, again.

Blogger FALPhil April 28, 2016 12:06 PM  

@104 clk
Actually .. except here in VD land (where there's a lot of tech savvy people who hold Carly as the person responsible for the destruction of what was the world best tech company in the world) ..its not a bad idea.

Fiorina never worked at Sony.

Anonymous mature craig April 28, 2016 12:10 PM  

this reminds me of the redskins Bill's super bowl (Trump as redskins. Cruz as Bills) where the Redskins were up 37-10 and they won 37-24

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 28, 2016 12:12 PM  

If Trump panders to women and/or minorities for his VP pick, it will be very disappointing, and will likely back fire.

Blogger Cinco April 28, 2016 12:15 PM  

Trump should totally pick Fiorina for VP, watch how fast she dumps Cruz for the Alpha.

Blogger James Dixon April 28, 2016 12:18 PM  

> Funniest post of the thread. And they will do it with all those 3rd world immigrants who showed up in Canada for the welfare.

But will they make the US pay for it?

Blogger Doom April 28, 2016 12:19 PM  

If you are nose-diving into a train wreck, might as well go whole hog? Carly may not be as big as a pig, Cruz has that part. But she is dog, an old, ugly, corrupt one at that. All I'm saying there.

Maybe Trump has no interest in him, and this is a way to slide money around until it finds a stinky ho... a place to be sha... a way to get into accounts or off-shore accounts, and be split out. Can I say "split out"?

Blogger John M April 28, 2016 12:20 PM  

Spoilers: Trump will pick Chris Christie as his VP. He will be like most of us here and value loyalty over anything else. I guess a lot of people will be disappointed by that choice but all signs are that he already sees Chris Christie as his right hand man.

Anonymous DT April 28, 2016 12:22 PM  

Did anyone else see Carly sing during the VP announcement?

Did it send shivers of fear running down your spine as well?

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 28, 2016 12:22 PM  

(Jebbusheron cronies):
"Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Carly Fiorina! Please clap."

Don't ever be the first to stop applauding, either comrade..

Anonymous DT April 28, 2016 12:23 PM  

@116 - that actually really worries me because I do not want "war with Russia" Christie any where near the white house.

Blogger Sam Lively April 28, 2016 12:24 PM  

@102

Deace is such a disappointment. Just plugging his ears and shrieking at this point.

Blogger vfm4258 April 28, 2016 12:26 PM  

Trump/Sanders 2016. Bumper stickers are already in design phase.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 28, 2016 12:29 PM  

They certainly make a fascinating pair from a visual perspective. Both their faces look about 15 percent melted.

Yeah, they look like they both had incomplete recoveries from Bell's Palsy. I don't think I can recall a recent pair of Presidential running mates more visually off-putting.

For that matter, Trump really is the last decent-looking candidate left from either party. You have to discount for age for all of these, but Hillary hit the wall harder than most, Sanders looks like he should be a character actor cast as "kooky old man" (maybe he is), and then we have the Butterface2016 duo.

Certainly a change from previous years - the candidates this time are far, far less slick and packaged than we've gotten used to. Even the establishment candidates are, well, barrel scrapings sounds about right. I think a cycle is ending, a machine is winding down.

Blogger Sam Lively April 28, 2016 12:33 PM  

@117

I think it's evidence of how insular the Cruz campaign has become. It's taken on the worst aspects of American homeschool culture - a child-centric worldview so extreme that the adults shelter and infantilize themselves. Fiorina was playing to the crowd.

I had high hopes for the American homeschool movement, but its fruits have been awfully disappointing.

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 12:43 PM  

"But will they make the US pay for it?"

No. Iceland.

Anonymous mature craig April 28, 2016 12:46 PM  

I think Christie would be a good VP I hope Joe Black man and Joe Southern man is cool with that

Blogger Student in Blue April 28, 2016 12:47 PM  

At this point wouldn't Trump/Carson be most likely?

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 12:47 PM  

" - a child-centric worldview so extreme that the adults shelter and infantilize themselves."

It's funny, but after I went home schooled my parents hardly ever saw me any more.

I went outside to play with the grown ups.

Anonymous SevenCrimes April 28, 2016 12:48 PM  

I didn't take seriously the claims that Ted Cruz might be autistic until now.

Oh ye of little faith.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 12:49 PM  

Yeah, they look like they both had incomplete recoveries from Bell's Palsy. I don't think I can recall a recent pair of Presidential running mates more visually off-putting.

Think about that image being in thousands of Hoosiers' hindbrains.

Anonymous mature craig April 28, 2016 12:50 PM  

And I hope Joe Jewish man is cool with that too

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 12:50 PM  

If you are nose-diving into a train wreck, might as well go whole hog? Carly may not be as big as a pig, Cruz has that part. But she is dog, an old, ugly, corrupt one at that. All I'm saying there.

No, she is a nag, not a hog. As in an old horse.

Blogger Teri April 28, 2016 12:54 PM  

And here's the speech Carly gave TWO weeks after 9/11:

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.html

I'm sure this would go over big in a general election.

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 12:55 PM  

Trump/Tingle 2016.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 28, 2016 12:56 PM  

Thoughts on a Trump VP pick...

You normally make a VP pick to unify the party, and to plug any gaps. What does Trump need?
1. Government experience.
2. National security policy credentials.
3. Not from the Northeast.
4. Conservative.
5. "Diverse". (and stop vomiting).
6. Delivers a key state.

He can't get ALL of these from one person. I think the Federal Government Experience ticket-punch will be top priority, followed by Not A DamnYankee.

Cruz meets these criteria. So do Rubio and Jeb Bush (and stop vomiting again).

But I think this is going to come down to two people - Kasich and Newt Gingrich. Kasich should be able to deliver Ohio, which Trump MUST win. And between them, a Trump-Kasich ticket has a fighting chance in Pennsylvania - and a win there breaks the back of the Democrat ticket.

On the other hand, Kasich is the embodiment of the GOPe. Paul Ryan, but 20 years older. Gingrich is the true ideological heir of Reagan. A formidable intellect, both thoroughly familiar with the Federal bureaucracy, and loathing the system without hating the workforce. Ideologically, he's a great match.

I've no idea which way Trump will jump.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 12:58 PM  

At this point wouldn't Trump/Carson be most likely?

No. No quota hires in the VP slot. Carson may be a good man in many ways, but he is absolutely not presidential material.

Did anyone else see Carly sing during the VP announcement?

Did it send shivers of fear running down your spine as well?


I did notice how she sounds a lot like Hillary.

But yeah, old bitches trying to be sweet and matronly are indeed very off-putting.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 1:01 PM  

Napoleon, the absolute worst thing for Trump to do would be to pick Jeb or any other GOPe stooge as his VP. Or a quota hire.

That said, Newt Gingrich actually wouldn't be too bad, although I don't know his positions on immigration, free trade, and foreign policy, or if he has come around to Trump's views.

Blogger Teri April 28, 2016 1:01 PM  

Trump has said that his VP will be someone that can deal with Congress. I think it will be someone totally off the radar. I expect Christie to be AG. And I hope he finds a place for Steven Miller, the guy doing the warm up speech. He's really good.

Blogger Teri April 28, 2016 1:01 PM  

Trump has said that his VP will be someone that can deal with Congress. I think it will be someone totally off the radar. I expect Christie to be AG. And I hope he finds a place for Steven Miller, the guy doing the warm up speech. He's really good.

Blogger Joshua_D April 28, 2016 1:03 PM  

I made this for y'all, to remember Carly by.

https://imgflip.com/i/139kon

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 1:05 PM  

1. Government experience.
Most likely.

2. National security policy credentials.
Useful

3. Not from the Northeast.
Usually

4. Conservative.
Yes, but by who's definition?


5. "Diverse". (and stop vomiting).
No.

6. Delivers a key state.
This is the perfect example of something everyone knows being bullshit. Like healthy crust.

Did the Romney/Ryan ticket deliver MA, MI, or WI?

Was there any risk whatsoever of Republicans in '08 losing AZ or AK? Was Biden necessary to shore up DE?

Al Gore couldn't carry TN.

The last time a ticket took states based on being the local boy was probably Clinton. Unless there's a magic republican who is going to carry the black vote in Philadelphia, this ought to carry no weight in VP selection.

Blogger Gaiseric April 28, 2016 1:07 PM  

Kasich is not nearly as popular in Ohio as people outside Ohio assume that he is. The notion that he'll deliver Ohio and maybe Pennsylvannia, especially after his shenanigans the last couple of months, strikes me as naive.

Blogger Sam Lively April 28, 2016 1:08 PM  

@134

I think you have to reverse your priority list. Key state and diversity are the big ticket items for Trump because his challenges are primarily electoral college math and image.

That's why I think O'Reilly's suggestion of NM gov Susana Martinez makes the most sense by far. She could be worth a 10 EV swing with NM, while undercutting the inevitable media attacks (He's afraid of strong women! He hates Mexicans!).

Newt is an operator, not a ticket mover. Kasich is a deadbeat with no value added other than maybe Ohio.

Blogger Gaiseric April 28, 2016 1:10 PM  

Teri wrote:And I hope he finds a place for Steven Miller, the guy doing the warm up speech. He's really good.
Maybe he can sing "Jungle Love" or "Abracadabra" at the inauguration ceremony...

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 1:13 PM  

Kasich is not nearly as popular in Ohio as people outside Ohio assume that he is.

Kasich is:

Bad on immigration

Bad on trade

Bad on foreign policy.

That's all we need to know. No Kasich.

She could be worth a 10 EV swing with NM, while undercutting the inevitable media attacks (He's afraid of strong women! He hates Mexicans!).

It would also be playing directly into their frame. Something that I hope would be against Trump's entire character.

Blogger clk April 28, 2016 1:18 PM  

..."Fiorina never worked at Sony."

Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard... they started the whole silicon valley thing and the best damn engineering calculators ever - RPN or go home.. :)

Blogger Rick Atlas April 28, 2016 1:22 PM  

I wonder if lying Ted is aiming for a pied piper strategy at the convention. Lose, rage, then walk out with the Bushes, Carl Rove, Fiorina and the most corrupt people of the republican establishment. They would then run him as the autistic third party independent true conservative candidate. And give Hillary the Whitehouse.

Blogger LES April 28, 2016 1:29 PM  

Somebody send Rush "On The Question Of Free Trade."

Anonymous Gecko April 28, 2016 1:32 PM  

Trump will pick Chris Christie as his VP.

I've wondered about this since the Rubot incident. That moment was pivotal to getting Trump a secure nomination.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 28, 2016 1:35 PM  

clk: Totally agree on reverse Polish notation. Beats the living tar out of algebraic notation for complex equations.

Blogger LES April 28, 2016 1:35 PM  

Pat Buchanan for Trump's VP. Knowledgable, White House experience and fearless.

Blogger LES April 28, 2016 1:40 PM  

The Tariff Act of 1789, was the first major Act passed in the United States under its present Constitution of 1789 and had two purposes as stated in Section I of the Act which reads as follows;
"Whereas it is necessary for that support of government, for the discharge of the debts of the United States, and the encouragement and protection of manufactures, that duties be laid on goods, wares and merchandise:"

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 1:40 PM  

@134: "He can't get ALL of these from one person."

Right. So he's not even going to try. He's going to fill the cabinet with people who are all those things where it's relevant to the position.

For VP, watch for someone like a Joe Arpaio (shame he isn't 20 years younger) to come "out of nowhere."

Anonymous Fran April 28, 2016 1:47 PM  

@150
I like it!

Blogger Alexamenos April 28, 2016 1:57 PM  

Best of the internets:

"Cruz must've picked Fiorina as VP because he's preparing to lay off his entire campaign staff."

Anonymous Mature-Craig April 28, 2016 1:59 PM  

Carson may be a good man in many ways, but he is absolutely not presidential material

He seems to have good chemistry with Trump in my view

Blogger Student in Blue April 28, 2016 2:02 PM  

@John M

Christie's been a friend of Trump for a while now so of course he sees him in a good light, but I don't think Trump likes Christie's speechgiving technique. After a while of letting Christie give speeches during Trump rallies after Christie dropped out and supported Trump, he just... stopped doing it.

It's not completely ruled out, but I don't think Christie is Trump's first choice, just a plan C.

Anonymous VFM #7916 April 28, 2016 2:16 PM  

@154

"Cruz must've picked Fiorina as VP because he's preparing to lay his entire campaign staff."

FTFY

Also, TRIGGER WARNING

Blogger Alexander April 28, 2016 2:20 PM  

However it falls, who would have thought after hurricane sandy obamahugs that Donald Trump would rehabilitate Crispy with the GOP electorate.

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 2:21 PM  

"He seems to have good chemistry with Trump in my view"

And Trump is going to need a Surgeon General.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean April 28, 2016 2:26 PM  

Unfortunately, Pat Buchanan will be 78 yrs old in November.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 2:32 PM  

@67 DDT

Remember that Fiorina is someone Trump had to suck up to a bit during the campaign, since he knocked her on her looks. She is, from what I recall, the only person who managed to get him to ease up and play nice. ('She is a lovely woman' or whatever it was.)
---

As I recall, it was in the 2nd debate when Trump told her "THAT GREAT BIG BEAUTIFUL FACE" or somesuch, which had me laughing so hard I almost cried muhahahahahahaaaa

Blogger Matt April 28, 2016 2:37 PM  

Cruz and Fiorina are too conservative. Trump is a moderate. Might even be a bit liberal. The Republican party moves left. Good to see it.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 28, 2016 2:39 PM  

Trump overperformed in the five northeastern states.

That means he exceeds 1237 with room to spare if he just meets expectations in California. California can be goofy because who knows what the polls mean for a place whose Republican Primary hasn't mattered since 1964 and heaven only knows what the Republican party establishment is doing there, but right now Trump is exceeding California expectations in the polls.

So Cruz is desperate to do anything to give himself a chance in California. So he picked the only person with California name recognition. Even if in some places it's bad name recognition, it's the only thing he's got. He is in the land of the Hail Mary pass.

As people have been pointing out, Reagan tried this Hail Mary pass against Ford in 1976 and it didn't work for him. But Reagan!

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 2:41 PM  

@85 Gecko

John Boehner Calls Ted Cruz "A Miserable Son Of A Bitch, Lucifer In The Flesh"

A move that might stand a snowball's chance of boosting Cruz's numbers, but too little too late. It's pathetic that they're just now starting to figure out how this game is played.
---

Teddy needs to hide the weeping boner in public

Anonymous BGKB April 28, 2016 2:42 PM  

Lose, rage, then walk out with the Bushes, Carl Rove, Fiorina and the most corrupt people of the republican establishment

Is there any way we can get them all on a plane with women raped by Bill C?

Make PC Great Again? What the hell?

Either someone on Cruz's team is trying to destroy him or he is trying to go down in flames. I don't even think nagging scolds would wear one. "Looks at Fiorina's pic"

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 2:44 PM  

@86 rubberducky

Close observers should be well disabused now of this notion that there was ever anything of substance to Ted Cruz, despite all the ballyhooing that there was.
---

With some good research you could see the huge warning signs about this guy way back in the beginning of the race.

But if you dared bring it up, you were a Trumpkin or get gang jumped by proto-Cruzlims, which was hilarious as well :P

The Cruzlims are still happily excited over at Teh Right Poop, from what I can see

Anonymous mature-Craig April 28, 2016 2:53 PM  

Carson has no more or less presidential experience than Trump, if Trump is presidential material, Carson is presidential material in my view

Anonymous Broken Arrow April 28, 2016 2:54 PM  

Gecko wrote:Trump will pick Chris Christie as his VP.

I've wondered about this since the Rubot incident. That moment was pivotal to getting Trump a secure nomination.


Attorney General.

Blogger Chiva April 28, 2016 2:54 PM  

California can be goofy because who knows what the polls mean for a place whose Republican Primary hasn't mattered since 1964

You mean my vote may actually count? Perish the thought!

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 2:58 PM  

@125 mature craig

I think Christie would be a good VP I hope Joe Black man and Joe Southern man is cool with that
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Not me. Trump has already pulled a miracle and got the south behind a Yankee. But I wouldn't push the luck by picking a 2nd one as his running mate.

Beside, where has all the talk about Kris Krispy being the AG gone?

Anonymous kfg April 28, 2016 2:59 PM  

@167:

1.Snakes are long and skinny
2.Sticks are long and skinny
3.Ergo, sticks are snakes

Anonymous mature-Craig April 28, 2016 3:00 PM  

bally-hoo


noun, plural ballyhoos.


1.a clamorous and vigorous attempt to win customers or advance any cause; blatant advertising or publicity.


2.clamor or outcry.

verb (used with or without object), ballyhooed, ballyhooing.

4.to advertise or push by ballyhoo.

usage: The ballyhoo advertisers have shouted the public deaf.

Anonymous redsash April 28, 2016 3:02 PM  

And the "natural born citizen" raises its ugly head once again when Cruz calls a basketball hoop a ring, and right before a battle in Knight's Indiana.

What phonies! Prediction - Both Cruz and Rubio's wives file for divorce within one year.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. April 28, 2016 3:04 PM  

Cruz doesn't want to win, Carly does not want to win either but I'm sure she is excited. if Trump is not the good guy one tends to believe he is, Hill and the henhouse re-enter office.

Anyone seriously believe Carly and Hillary are going to debate? Never going to happen in a era when anything can happen. Irritant: If a brokered or jacked GOP convention is pulled, voters will be even more willing to denouce partyworship no matter the outcome. It is not about idiocracy so critics chill out.

I've heard the phony trojan horse talk about Trump and I have zero interest in entertaining it. I also reject the right and left or bi factional morons talking up a revolution.

Take your revolutionary talk and war porn to hell.

Stop spending the blood of Gen X and some mil'len's you vampervs in office.

As I have said, dont believe Ohio, ignore Bonhener on Cruzz. Carly was a terrible choice, Palin was too. Women do not belong in the office. Also! insane; "excluding women from the draft is sexist" entered the current events this week.

Irrational policy, women do not need to serve when the wars about raping white women, leave us the fuck alone.

Women do not belong in the military at all. Never. Let the men be medics to the men, killing off women didn't bode well for China, did it? You sick twisted social engineering feminists just want to get women killed, we all know women cannot serve.

This is political/policy anarchy.

One final irritant, upon a drive to see ailing Father at another vampire establishment bleeding us and financially raping us were Safe Place signs all over the place at stores, churches, etc. I dont know but I guess is where all this safe space talk started - I had no idea such signs existed.

Lunatic signs, safe place for more perverts.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 3:05 PM  

@143 Gaiseric
Maybe he can sing "Jungle Love" or "Abracadabra" at the inauguration ceremony...
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Or if he supports Tundra Ted, how about "C'mon take the money and run Hoot hoo hoo "

Blogger Sam Lively April 28, 2016 3:10 PM  

How about Rand Paul as VP?

No diversity or key state, but I can't think of a better guy to go after Hillary's weaknesses on FP and cronyism. Conservatives generally like him too.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 3:12 PM  

@167 mature-Craig

Carson has no more or less presidential experience than Trump, if Trump is presidential material, Carson is presidential material in my view
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I like him a lot, but he doesn't seem to have that killer instinct you want in a president. That's why, if I was to pick a great black candidate, I would want to go with Cain. Not that he would do it.

But I really hope there is something that Doc Carson can do in a Trump admin. He's really too good at a lot of things to not have him do something.

Anonymous bgkb April 28, 2016 3:14 PM  

On the topic of douchebag CEOs, Timmy Cook isn't having a good day no wonder he wants to serve pizza at weddings.

http://etfdailynews.com/2016/04/27/apple-inc-aapl-shocks-the-financial-world/

Nor is Targets CEO http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/04/25/conservative-christian-group-boycotting-target-transgender-bathroom-policy/83491396/
"More than 700,000 pledge to boycott Target over transgender bathroom policy"

The only gays that would shop at target are the ones that would be caught dead arguing with a black cashier at a dollar store over gay rights.
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/local/gay-woman-videos-discrimination-at-new-orleans-family-dollar-store/152695050

Beside, where has all the talk about Kris Krispy being the AG gone?

Keep that Cuck far away from gun rights. Put him in charge of Transportation or Agriculture.

Blogger Gaiseric April 28, 2016 3:23 PM  

http://www.infowars.com/97-chance-trump-wins-nomination-before-convention-statisticians-reveal/

Blogger JaimeInTexas April 28, 2016 3:23 PM  

My first reaction re. Cruz's picking Fiorina as VP was, virtue signalling for women votes. Then I remembered the whole money transfer investigation. It may have been a Cruz-Fiorina all along, not either/or.
My guess is that Trump's VP will be be named as one of 3 or 5 names that will be floated by "unnamed sources close to the Trump campaign." Then, the VP pick will be named and he may not even be one of the names floated.

Blogger JaimeInTexas April 28, 2016 3:28 PM  

Christie will be named for an appointed office or in the cabinet. No way for VP.
The VP will be someone that will add a region to Trump in the general election, with foreign policy experience.

Blogger JaimeInTexas April 28, 2016 3:32 PM  

Carson is a nice guy but he is no POTUS nor VPOTUS material. And I hope he will not be nominated for Surgeon General. Carson will get an ambassadorship ... somewhere.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 3:37 PM  

Ok, going back to the "Why" did Tundra Ted pick Fiorina?

If you are conspiratory minded, then it might have something to do with that sex scandal business that the media sat on and they hope memory holed.

When this came out it was interesting because one of the obvious tagged in the NE was that feisty woman who supports Trump all over TV. And another who supports Cruz all over TV. And then there is the information about the $500K going to Fiorinas campaign, because her campaign mgr is also one of those indicated. This guy does a good job running through it when it first came out.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/24/the-national-enquirer-runs-story-of-multiple-ted-cruz-affairs/

A couple more running through it
http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/94574273-8-things-you-need-to-know-about-ted-cruzs-sex-scandal

The media wanted to bury the hell out of this story
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-supporter-derails-cnn-segment-by-accusing-fellow-guest-of-having-an-affair-with-ted-cruz/

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/24/ted-cruz-sex-scandal-thoughts/

Teddy claimed it was started by Trump, but actually it was Anonymous (of all things) and Lil Foamer :

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/breaking-anonymous-claims-proof-cruz-affairs-rumors-not-start-donald-trump/

I know people hate the whole wives thing that boiled up. But notice something very interesting. The one who started it with the Melania photo has the same address as Fiorinas campaign:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/26/exclusive-liz-mairs-anti-trump-super-pac-has-same-p-o-box-as-carly-fiorinas-campaign/

Someone once said, "Follow the money". That $500K went to Fiorina from Cruz. Something is going on there, and maybe picking Fiorina is another part of a payoff to keep something hidden.


Blogger Doom April 28, 2016 3:48 PM  

#122 Jack Amok,

"Certainly a change from previous years - the candidates this time are far, far less slick and packaged than we've gotten used to. Even the establishment candidates are, well, barrel scrapings sounds about right. I think a cycle is ending, a machine is winding down."

You hit something, you just missed it. With television dying, people aren't actually watching anymore. Those who have interest might listen while searching the internet for porn or whatever (in my case, more likely a cooking, baking, outdoor, travel, or crafting how-to, mind you). With eyes elsewhere, the picture perfect just doesn't sell these days. The closer television gets to death, the uglier they will get, up to a point. All good, though I can't guarantee it will matter.

Anonymous mature-Craig April 28, 2016 3:53 PM  

I would like to see Trump's defeat of Cruz usher in a new Era where the American people don't tolerate lying any more, and that lying is frowned upon, and that liars are made to feel shame.

Anonymous AmStrat April 28, 2016 3:56 PM  

@mature-craig

And that people realize lying is bad. And that people stop lying.

When people don't tell the truth the are lying with distruth which are lies.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar April 28, 2016 4:00 PM  

Canada's cut rate Grandpa Dracula is just doing Stupid Party 101. Pander, pander and then grovel. Fiorina is the Granny Goodness of the GOPe dopes. She's another Hillary, so that will pander it all up like they are wont to do.
Colonel Sanders is in deep shit. All the heavy hitters of the Party Insiders stepped back to let Hillary have her coronation, and old man Sanders was supposed to be an easy KO to make her look good, but this dumb fucker has all the loons from the Looniversities voting for him. He better quit and take the VP spot or he's gonna end up dead in the park like Vince Foster.

Anonymous mature-Craig April 28, 2016 4:08 PM  

im gonna have to take a break from this, I get too into this stuff, peace out everyone

Anonymous DC (#sqrt(-1)) April 28, 2016 4:08 PM  

@145..
RPN or go home..

Right on, brother! Preach it!

CRUZ FIORINA + ---> NaN

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 28, 2016 4:09 PM  

Kasich Alliance for what little it was ever worth is now dead.

Kasich was way too flighty to keep up his end of the bargain.

Cruz has called that one as being overwith now. " You can't trust the son of a federally-employed mailman to deliver anything."

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 4:17 PM  

Canada's cut rate Grandpa Dracula is just doing Stupid Party 101. Pander, pander and then grovel.

But muh conservative principles. Cruz is keepin' it real.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 28, 2016 4:29 PM  

Also, has anyone noticed what Carly's maiden name is? I'll admit its a bit juvenile what with the "Drumpf" business, but believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. (heh.)

Anonymous Takin' a Look April 28, 2016 4:42 PM  

@ Doom

Yes, (((Talmudvision))) is dying very rapidly around the world as well as the USA as billions live-stream off wi-fi and get VERY picky about their media sources.

It's making both the square and compass [cable] and (((cable))) tear their hair out. People more and more want SPECIFIC media.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper April 28, 2016 5:04 PM  

There is a German expression that sums up the selection of Fiorina , quotenfrau.

However I am not at all surprised by this, with Hillary in the race I had a hunch she'd be back as somebodies V.P.


Blogger Were-Puppy April 28, 2016 5:14 PM  

@187 Joshua Sinistar

He better quit and take the VP spot or he's gonna end up dead in the park like Vince Foster.
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You know the hildebeast has a place for the body picked out months ago

Anonymous LastRedoubt April 28, 2016 5:30 PM  

While I'm used to people in Google+ who go "yayyy Cruz, booo Trump" today it reached a fever pitch.

Especially notable was one shrew screeching about how during Cruz's announcement, Drudge had no headlines related to it, but had major ones re: Trump, and was a yuuuuge Trump supporter, and if anyone got their conservative news from Drudge, they needed to find another source because Drudge was no longer a reliable source.

Anonymous cheddarman April 28, 2016 5:45 PM  

Joshua Sinistar, I hope colonel sanders stays in it until the end. He might just push the hildabeast over the edge to a mental breakdown.

Blogger tz April 28, 2016 6:20 PM  

OK, Carly is officially more creepy than Burger King (ad/mascot).

Blogger tz April 28, 2016 6:25 PM  

Oops H/T Jason Stapleton start at 18:30.

Green witch from "The Silver Chair"...

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. April 28, 2016 6:38 PM  

The point is clear: neither boomers or many gen xers (genx is afraidy to disagree with neoconned paxilneeders and cucks) fail to understand this matter of math and stats.

I listened/read things over for 4 months and the refusal of math, stats, econ and banking is political anarchy. What utter nullsense to ignore delegate counts, meaning like, you know, math.

I fully request either Donald's daughter or one of the sons is drafted as VP, its time to bring back the patriarchy, sanity and from there we'll see.

And its time for greeting cards via drone to begin, anything can e-happen.

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