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Saturday, May 07, 2016

And still they doubt me

I find it fascinating that every single step along the way, SF-SJWs are always convinced that this time, surely this one more time, they will be able to stop me from pursuing my objectives. The Reverend 3.0 considers the growing movement to permaban the Puppies from participation in the Hugo Awards.
In a way, the Puppy Revolt could end up making things easier on the Controllers, because it gives them an excuse to seize control under the cover of protecting everyone from the Puppies. Not that this will stop the slow death of traditional publishing, but whatever.

Now, Vox wants us to believe he can use the proposed PermaBan rule against the Kickers. That remains to be seen, but the man has an excellent track record on these things.

I'm torn on whether or not Vox can pull that off. My gut tells me that this is at least partially a bluff, but I have no evidence and it runs counter to Vox's pattern of saying what he will do and then doing it. But the gut will say what it says, regardless of reason.

Predictions Time:

-The Powers That Be will move forward with PermaBanning, and will implement it if they think they can get away with it.

-If PermaBanning is implemented, the Hugo base will go along with it.

-If Vox can flip PermaBanning on the PTB, I will give my gut a very stern talking-to.
These people must spend all their time posing, posturing, and bluffing, because every time I do what I tell them I am going to do, they're astonished. Although it is amusing that they're already abandoning hope in EPH, which they were certain was the answer last year.

Of course, I told them as much, in fact, I made it clear that I welcome the passage of EPH, as its implementation will mark the start of the second stage of the Pink SF-Blue SF cultural war. But an open ban would take us to the third stage even faster.

That being said, one has to credit Rev 3.0 for being correct in the essentials:
First, we can all appreciate how much of a brilliant predictor I am. Second, we can examine that perennial question: is Vox Day a legitimate threat or a paper tiger? I have said (over and over again) that he is a legitimate threat. The Establishment has said (over and over again) that he is a "toddler." You be the judge.
Betting against the SJW Narrative is usually the safe bet. And then, of course, there is this:

If the 2016 Hugos are the Year of the Gay Space Raptor (ie, the biggest talking point and what people remember it for), Vox knows what he's doing.

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Man of the Atom May 07, 2016 6:45 PM  

The Hugo Award diminishes in stature with every move the Puppy Kickers take, and they are too wrapped up in their Social Justice madness to see it.

Didn't they see the nuclear blast picture you posted and get the clue? Most entertaining, Dark Lord!

Blogger Doutor Machista May 07, 2016 6:46 PM  

The Narrative is all they have.

Anonymous BGKB May 07, 2016 6:46 PM  

-If Vox can flip PermaBanning on the PTB, I will give my gut a very stern talking-to.

There are only 2 natural openings for the gut, which one will he be talking out of? Don't sperg about the sphincter of odi.

Blogger Doutor Machista May 07, 2016 6:46 PM  

The Narrative is all they have.

Blogger Phelps May 07, 2016 6:52 PM  

The funny thing is, being a gamer and wargamer, I think I've figured out the real shiv this year (it occurred to me as I was noting the notable lacuna in the slating) and if it goes the way I would do it, it's going to be delicious.

Give them what they want -- good and hard. (and what I'm thinking of has nothing to do with banning -- just voting strategically.)

Blogger Dave May 07, 2016 7:06 PM  

The Donald Trump of Science Fiction sees your bet and raises it 10 fold.

Blogger JACIII May 07, 2016 7:12 PM  

Every Hugo we Rabids have gained more ground. We took some of their morale this year. Their confidence is shaken. Their spirit is broken. They don't know whether to shit or go blind.

SF-SJWs aren't even linear thinkers. They aren't thinkers at all. They feel they are spellcasters struggling to squint hard enough to perceive a desire into reality.

They're done. They can either flee the battlefield or lie prostrate awaiting our scalp taking.

Blogger weka May 07, 2016 7:31 PM  

Well, it is just going up a level.
Watching them play rule changes with gamers amuses even this retrogrouch.
My money is on the gamers. For they will go for the win, caring not for the status.

Blogger bob k. mando May 07, 2016 7:49 PM  

in memory of the Hard Buds who don't kiss the sky with us any more ...

the Denker who Vryes
Q is the Public John?
the inactive Watcher who Observes

and who could forget
Mann Organ and her Based7 IQ

Anonymous Big Bill May 07, 2016 7:50 PM  

Why do I get the feeling that they treat you like they treat Trump?

"Hey's crazy! No right-thinking person could EVER support this fool!"

And then they start losing ... and lose some more! And then the tone changes.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr May 07, 2016 8:01 PM  

Fools! Vox has already got the SFWA's death warrant signed...and they don't seem to realize what's about to happen.

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2016 8:07 PM  

So...shall we open the forums as to what authors will trigger a permaban once we take over the Hugos?

I'd say GURM, but let be honest. Does anyone really think he is going to finish another book before heart disease takes him?

If he'd only kept in shape we could have gotten 3-4 more books of rape out him...

but I will give credit where credit is due. No one can write a food descriptions like him.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 07, 2016 8:11 PM  

So...they want to give us the power to banish the pedophiles and Tor Books forever? That sounds counterproductive, but oh well!

Anonymous Obvious May 07, 2016 8:12 PM  

Hahaha. Apparently the blog owner's commenter don't understand the difference between SFWA and the WSFS.

Not surprising when their leader doesn't understand what boycott means.

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2016 8:15 PM  

>No one can write a food descriptions like him.

As soon as the last character of that sentence was typed, my grammar school teacher's rotting corpse tore himself out of his mausoleum, reached for his ruler of knuckle-smashing that was buried with him and started the long shambling journey to my apartment.

Anonymous Man of the Atom May 07, 2016 8:23 PM  

Whatever scripting magic Matthew has wrought here is outstanding, and not at all ... obvious.

Blogger Michael Maier May 07, 2016 8:29 PM  

I hate not being able to see our destination from here...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 07, 2016 8:35 PM  

So let me get this straight. The organization is literally run by the votes of whoever shows up, usually less then 50 people. And they're going to use rule changes to fight against an organization that can probably field twice that.

Proposed rule change:
Video games are eligible under Dramatic Presentation, long or short form.

How many gamers show up?

Blogger Pseudotsuga May 07, 2016 8:43 PM  

They just can't quit you, Vox. It's pathetic...

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 8:47 PM  

> And they're going to use rule changes to fight against an organization that can probably field twice that.

Twice? More like 5 times. Possibly 10. And that's just with the Ilk and the VFM's.

Blogger Thucydides May 07, 2016 8:48 PM  

So how about those Dragoncon nominations? Might as well start thinking about the real awards as well as entertain yourselves watching the SJWs at the Hugos twist and turn with the hook in their mouths......

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 07, 2016 8:51 PM  

"I find it fascinating that every single step along the way, SF-SJWs are always convinced that this time, surely this one more time, they will be able to stop me from pursuing my objectives."
You gotta love the futile effort they toss out.
Fuck em. When ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.

Blogger doug whiddon May 07, 2016 9:07 PM  

i know that EPH us E Plurubus Hugo, but i dont actually know what that is. Coulf someone explain?

Blogger bob k. mando May 07, 2016 9:16 PM  

London has elected it's first Muslim mayor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpVi8TJ2RGw

i'm rather amazed that Stefan seems to be calling for the initiation of force ...

Anonymous Evan May 07, 2016 9:18 PM  

Pseudotsuga: "they just can't quit you, Vox. It's pathetic..."

Wait, who can't quit who? Anyone want to bet when the next mention of John Scalzi will be at vox's BlogSpot?

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 07, 2016 9:23 PM  

EPH is just a rule that gives voters one slot to nominate in instead of five. It is to our advantage. Gives us way more cover and several strategic options. They are just now realizing this, so are also considering consolidating the voting structure to permanently reject members suspected of "griefing."

Blogger Lazarus May 07, 2016 9:25 PM  

How I wish
Ass Goblins of Auschwitz had been eligible. Whole other level of butthurt.

Blogger bob k. mando May 07, 2016 9:27 PM  

25. Evan May 07, 2016 9:18 PM
Wait, who can't quit who? Anyone want to bet when the next mention of John Scalzi will be at vox's BlogSpot?


by Vox? i don't think he mentions Scalzi much at all anymore. once a month, maybe?

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 9:38 PM  

So how do folks think this permaban would be implemented anyway? Obviously if you voted a complete Rabid Puppy recommended list it would be easy to implement. But would they try to argue for banning anyone who voted for any book recommended by Vox? I don't think even they could justify going that far.

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 9:41 PM  

> Anyone want to bet when the next mention of John Scalzi will be at vox's BlogSpot?

I'm pretty sure there's a standing entry for Scalzi on the Tor authors page.

Blogger S1AL May 07, 2016 9:41 PM  

@James Dixon - Yeah, that wouldn't backfire at all. Most likely it's the typical fluff that will allow TPTB to ban at will... or, at least, it will look that way. If they think that will actually work, they should really consider Vox's yama hunt, and how that ended.

But that last line... do you think any of them have figured it out?

Anonymous SDH May 07, 2016 9:47 PM  

doug whiddon wrote:i know that EPH us E Plurubus Hugo, but i dont actually know what that is. Coulf someone explain?

Dude. Google it.

Blogger SciVo May 07, 2016 9:55 PM  

Michael Maier wrote:I hate not being able to see our destination from here...

It isn't clear yet which win condition we will end up at. Law #2 would have them go all the way to where the Hugos (and possibly also WorldCon) have been replaced with a smoking crater. But weak amygdalas could have them collapse at any time. The stopping point may depend on their antidepressant supplies.

Wait. Aren't there difficulties with taking prescriptions internationally? Okay, I'm predicting that our opposition will collapse in Helsinki 2017 at the latest.

Anonymous Bobby Farr May 07, 2016 10:01 PM  

Interesting post by Cernovich about facilitators and apologists for pedophilia in the GOPe cuck community. Perhaps #NeverTrump and SF-SJW can be linked to further their mutual annoyance and facilitate broad and indiscriminate use of the pedo smear, as the left used charges of racism for decades.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/05/05/ben-sasse-and-nevertrumps-pedophile-problem/

Blogger Harsh May 07, 2016 10:05 PM  

Funny how the SJWs are so convinced that they're the smart ones and yet Vox outsmarts them at every turn... Must be luck or something...

Anonymous Phil Mann May 07, 2016 10:10 PM  

Serious question for those of us who dropped $40 last year, voted then, nominated now, but have not yet re-upped for this year's fun and games.

The money is not the issue (definitely among the best forty bucks I've spent), it's a tactical thing. Better to pay and vote this year for whatever effect that will have? Or deny them the $50 since the vote won't matter anyway?

I assume the supreme dark lord will provide a recommendation in due course.

Staying tuned.

Blogger Lazarus May 07, 2016 10:16 PM  

SciVo wrote:t isn't clear yet which win condition we will end up at. Law #2 would have them go all the way to where the Hugos (and possibly also WorldCon) have been replaced with a smoking crater.

Rats desert sinking ships, if they can. There are other free meals and places to drop feces. That is what vermin do.

Blogger JACIII May 07, 2016 10:20 PM  

Evan wrote:Pseudotsuga: "they just can't quit you, Vox. It's pathetic..."

Wait, who can't quit who? Anyone want to bet when the next mention of John Scalzi will be at vox's BlogSpot?



Because when the target pops up you shoot it. You think that's ever gonna get old?

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 10:22 PM  

> But that last line... do you think any of them have figured it out?

Probably not. But they always try to hide what they're doing under plausible deniability (SJW's Always Lie, remember), so I can't see any way they can justify it. I'm probably overlooking something though.

> I assume the supreme dark lord will provide a recommendation in due course.

I think that's a safe assumption, yes.

Blogger Harsh May 07, 2016 10:32 PM  

But would they try to argue for banning anyone who voted for any book recommended by Vox?

Which would result in the only situation where Vox nominates a Scalzi book...

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 10:39 PM  

> Which would result in the only situation where Vox nominates a Scalzi book...

Harsh, shush. I was carefully trying not to explain that to them.

Anonymous VFM#1819 May 07, 2016 10:51 PM  

OT but I thought this was interesting. Beginning to wonder if Trump is not only a reader of Vox...but possibly a VFM?

From NBC:

He (Trump) also said he was the "last person she wants to run against…because my attitude is, I don't care."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-slams-hillary-clinton-nasty-mean-enabler-husband-s-affairs-n569791

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 10:53 PM  

> Beginning to wonder if Trump is not only a reader of Vox...but possibly a VFM?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone on his staff is a reader here. Trump himself, probably not. And there's no way he'd accept being a VFM.

Anonymous MidWestCon member May 07, 2016 11:01 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Twice? More like 5 times. Possibly 10. And that's just with the Ilk and the VFM's.
You need people who buy attending memberships and actually go to the business meeting.  How many ilk and VFMs are doing that?  (I count myself as neither.)

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 11:19 PM  

> You need people who buy attending memberships and actually go to the business meeting. How many ilk and VFMs are doing that?

Currently, probably not many. But almost all of us could afford to do so, and if Vox says to...

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. May 07, 2016 11:27 PM  

Required viewing, serious alert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25VVmCviVao

SF SJW's do not understand V's super intel, high IQ, or different manners of operation and they completely do not understand the quality of AWCAristry in action here.

Also they do not start businesses, they do not produce anything, they do not have goals as professional vamperv victims dont do goals or production or anything of serious values.

Our host is also leaving these morons utterly shocked, bereft wondering if they can ever outsmart VFM, Vox and Dread Ilk.

I'm no Beck but Vox resides within his faith unlike these terrible abusive puppy kickers, the Lord will help and always win out.

SJW/MPAI dont and will never understand God or Vox or the VFM.

Didn't we read Vox's excellent maxim or, whats the term for something to live by, "I dont expect you to understand or even agree." That utterly applies here.

Blogger JACIII May 07, 2016 11:28 PM  

MidWestCon member wrote:James Dixon wrote:Twice? More like 5 times. Possibly 10. And that's just with the Ilk and the VFM's.

You need people who buy attending memberships and actually go to the business meeting.  How many ilk and VFMs are doing that?  (I count myself as neither.)


Looks like a potential IlkMoot. I know WE would have a good time.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 07, 2016 11:30 PM  

MidWestCon member wrote:You need people who buy attending memberships and actually go to the business meeting.  How many ilk and VFMs are doing that?  (I count myself as neither.)
Right now, what's the point? To go hang with TrueFen? What rational person would choose that for entertainment?

To show up with 100 others for a tactical objective, on the other hand, that would bring the lols and the salt and the quaking fear and the calls to police and the drama unbounded.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. May 07, 2016 11:36 PM  

I'm planing upon attending and re-loading skype soon, its been a complex matter that is against the rules of the blog to dicuss, point being, I will pay for brainstorm. I will pay for meetings, although I'm on mute and quiet, I will support that which equates or defines my own worldviews and support my gen xers whom are rational, normal, love God and whom are working their asses off for a future that we are required to show up for!

Blogger Nick S May 08, 2016 12:45 AM  

The Phoenix rises from the cold dead ashes not the slightly charred remnants.

Blogger James Dixon May 08, 2016 12:52 AM  

> Looks like a potential IlkMoot. I know WE would have a good time.

It would probably have to be this year though. The trip to Europe would be difficult for many, and I think most Ilk/VFM are in the US.

Blogger J Van Stry May 08, 2016 1:02 AM  

If there is one thing I have learned in life, it's not to go up against people who are master game players and who design game strategies.

Especially if they have learned how to apply those skills to real life.

Having seen Vox's track record over the last several years, it is very clear to me that he has a plan, and he is sticking to it.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 08, 2016 1:14 AM  

"If there is one thing I have learned in life, it's not to go up against people who are master game players and who design game strategies."
Good Lord, man. How are you gonna beat them at they game if you don't try ?

Blogger Bosefus May 08, 2016 1:14 AM  

Uh... the SJW's in general... they be thunder struck!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM

VD shoots to kill... what a thrill!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQnJyP77tY

Go get em' boss!

Blogger El Borak May 08, 2016 1:18 AM  

You need people who buy attending memberships and actually go to the business meeting. How many ilk and VFMs are doing that?

I will be there, FWIW.

Blogger Bosefus May 08, 2016 1:36 AM  

Vox was made part Aztec and Comanche... so what do you expect!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRuOasgHTcY

Kicker of asses... probably even Lord of some of the Rings.

Blogger Bosefus May 08, 2016 1:45 AM  

Together they cry... you the man Vox!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKOc2S1AkjE

Blogger Bosefus May 08, 2016 2:15 AM  

They'll be crying like girls...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QNlebUDb8U

Blogger Sir Thermite May 08, 2016 2:56 AM  

Did I see an obsessive midwit troll imply for the umpteenth time that Vox is envious of McRapey? It is to laugh. Let's look at the current Amazon rankings of the last books they released, both in late 2015:

The End of All Things
#384 in Books > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Science Fiction > Colonization
#463 in Books > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Science Fiction > Military > Space Marine
#1707 in Books > Literature & Fiction > Action & Adventure > Science Fiction

Cuckservative
#6 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Nonfiction > Politics & Social Sciences > Philosophy > Political
#6 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > Ideologies & Doctrines > Nationalism
#23 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Philosophy > Political

Can't even imagine how much more pathetic McRapey's relative ranking would be if he'd attempted to write a non-fiction book limited by the constraints of reality.

Blogger Sir Thermite May 08, 2016 3:12 AM  

Oops..looks like the obsessive midwit troll's comment has been rightfully deleted. I trust that he can still read mine though, and that the salt flows down to the stagnant Dead Sea depression of his soul.

Blogger SciVo May 08, 2016 4:13 AM  

jOHN MOSBY wrote:"If there is one thing I have learned in life, it's not to go up against people who are master game players and who design game strategies."

Good Lord, man. How are you gonna beat them at they game if you don't try ?


[facepalm] You're not wrong. But it was rhetoric for discouraging the puppykickers.

Blogger SciVo May 08, 2016 4:16 AM  

Because we assume they read here.

Blogger Shimshon May 08, 2016 4:31 AM  

It seems to me that it's really irrelevant whether or not Vox can game such a system to turn around the ability to purge undesirables. Once they do so, and act on it, they render the Hugos irrelevant, regardless. And their gnashing of teeth over Vox will only increase. It's a thing of beauty. I'm in the $50 if or when the Supreme Dark Lord continues with the Hugo Games.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 08, 2016 8:05 AM  

"If the 2016 Hugos are the Year of the Gay Space Raptor..."

That's SOO raciss!

Any Chinese person could tell him it's the Year of the Gay Space Raptor Monkey.

Anonymous Eduardo May 08, 2016 8:20 AM  

Man that guy that sent that love letter to Vox telling to F himself, must have already comitted suicide. Just write... I think F you Vox on the search bar to get a ride on memory lane.

Blogger LP9 Forever Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra S.I.G. May 08, 2016 8:23 AM  

There is no real communicating with SJW's beyond twitter, tweets seem to be the extend of their skills, Vox offered to debate which is really just a friendly talk for all of us to listen via skype but they run away, disappear, etc. Reinforcing the views of many online that Vox is superior to them.

56 SF SJW dont understand game designers but they call themselves gamers. They dont understand Vox has a history in a variety of industries, knows econ and can use the same format or change the format and the move on to the designing.

SJW's are jealous Vox and other professionals here also Mike C, Milo, the countless Game Theory/MRA writers utilize Amazon, Twitter, kindle, etc. and win in the arena of ideas not feelings.

Also Vox and his professionals made their own/his own outfit that wasn't a size 16 dress like McRapeRape, its called Castalia House.

Real men win by creating their own businesses, their own deals, SJW's are sidelining low vibrational people.

Blogger VD May 08, 2016 12:13 PM  

Did I see an obsessive midwit troll imply for the umpteenth time that Vox is envious of McRapey?

It's all they have. "You're X" is the sum total of their ability to argue. It can be "envious", it can be "angry", it can be "bitter", but the tactic is always they same. All they're trying to do is spark a reaction, preferably emotional, because that is how they keep score.

Which is why "you're fat, poor, and ugly" is a perfectly rational response in their language. It doesn't actually have any informational content; he would be claiming I was envious of Scalzi if Scalzi was dead and rotting in a gutter.

Remember, they used to claim I was envious of Scalzi due to his Internet traffic. Now mine is 3-4 times larger than his, so they've moved on to other excuses.

Blogger Nate May 08, 2016 6:21 PM  

I like the Rev. There is a fundamental intellectual honesty about how he runs his blog.

OpenID denektenorsk May 08, 2016 8:37 PM  

People never accept things at face value. For example, take Mein Kampf... people were actually surprised when Jews were rounded up and they went off in search of Lebensraum. It's not like he wrote down what he wanted to do or anything.

Or perhaps a modern day example - terrorists. They routinely say they are doing it for their religion, their version of god or the honour of their prophet. People then jump through mental gymnastics to prove it was something else, be that poverty, racism (because Islam is a race of course), or my new favourite: climate change.

I'm just waiting for the new western ultra-nationalist that everyone can be called. I tired of hearing Hitler this, Hitler that.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 08, 2016 9:34 PM  

Of course they doubt you. The Hugo Progs have no idea how badly things are going for them.

As I wrote in the Rev, the Prog Hugo people are trapped and have only one slight chance at victory.

Basically any action the Hugo people makes is a win for Vox and the Puppies.

They can either kick out "bad-think" and fully converge the Hugo's losing all pretense of legitimacy.

They can do nothing and lose power.

Or they can let other non Prog forms of SF get the nod in which case Vox wins

The closest to a winning move would be to get a In order for them to "win" they have to get a lot of Progs to read SF, understand it and vote the Prog line.

I don't think they have the discipline to do this. If they do as they usually do just vote swarm, the lose legitimacy.

Now mind you its not ever yet but still frankly I've rarely seen a more masterful ass kicking by Vox, the puppies and VFM's.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 09, 2016 1:36 AM  

They could easily win by...
Acting like adults, reading the nominees honestly, and voting for the one they like best.

That would instantly derail and demoralize the rabid puppies. I mean, where are the lulz for me in that? Why would I bother? I might nominate, I might vote, but what's the fucking point? What would there be to prove?

The sad puppies would overnight become just what they want it to be, a recommendation list. Rabid puppies would declare victory and go home.

The long nightmare would be over.

Unfortunately, the plan includes "acting like an adult", so it's never gonna happen.

Blogger SciVo May 13, 2016 5:11 AM  

denektenorsk wrote:I'm just waiting for the new western ultra-nationalist that everyone can be called. I tired of hearing Hitler this, Hitler that.

Anders Breivik, of course. I love that Free Me And I Will Free You meme.

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