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Sunday, May 15, 2016

How to guarantee failure

It's both amusing and a little annoying to see various AltRight figures freaking out about Heat Street running articles by me. Apparently the fear is that because it is a Dow Jones-owned outlet, it will somehow magically "coopt" the AltRight and make it disappear. Can you even imagine how terrible it would be if the New York Times gave me an op/ed column or if CNN gave Mike Cernovich a TV show?

This cooption concept is a fascinatingly stupid theory, in light of how the editor of Heat Street, Louise Mensch, has openly attacked the AltRight and is a card-carrying member of #NeverTrump. Heat Street is simply one of many media outlets, it isn't the Tea Party 2.0. Unlike Dana Loesch, Dick Armey, and other conservatives who leaped to march in front of the Tea Party parade and were accepted as its public faces, literally no one, including Louise herself, is putting her or her site forward as an opinion leader of the Alt Right.

Here is the core problem with this cowardly paranoia: either the AltRight ideas can survive exposure to the mainstream or they cannot. There is only one way to find out, and that is to expose them to the mainstream. Therefore, those of us who are seen as "Alt Right figureheads" or influences of some kind should welcome every single outlet willing to consider them, whether it is friendly or hostile.

This really isn't that difficult.

It is ironic that the Alt Right scolds worry rightly about SJW entryism while simultaneously refusing to dirty their delicate white hands by ever preaching to anyone who is not part of the choir, much less engaging in any entryism of their own. Apparently they prefer a purely defensive approach, which as every student of strategy or military history knows, virtually guarantees failure. This is also remarkably stupid, given that the Alt Right has seen how the determination of conservatives to remain solely on the defensive is one of the primary reasons for the catastrophic failure of conservatism.

It is a matter of public record that my articles and my interviews have appeared in everything from Pravda to the Guardian, from WorldNetDaily to the Wall Street Journal. Jews and SJWs condemn me for giving credibility to The Daily Shoah and Counter Currents. Alt Righters and white nationalists condemn me for giving credibility to Heat Street. Meanwhile, I have been reliably informed for 15 years now that I have no credibility of my own.

In case my position is not clear, let me state it outright: I reject the concept of credibility by association.

I am not a moderate, I am outlet-agnostic. No one owns me and no one dictates what I can and what I cannot say. And the Alt Right would do very well to learn from #GamerGate and stop trying to play tone-police or outlet-police.

Ideas stand alone, not on the basis of author, outlet, or association.


UPDATE: Some of these guys clearly don't know me very well. I'm entirely happy to, as they suggest, GTFO of whatever they think their little movement happens to be. I'm not a joiner anyhow. Attempt to police me and I won't hesitate to mute and ignore you.

And if you tell me I should not be contributing anywhere, then you will not be commenting here. Live by your professed principles, gentlemen. We wouldn't want you being coopted by me, after all, and I can't risk being coopted by you.

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154 Comments:

Anonymous 5343 May 15, 2016 6:50 AM  

Amen.

Anonymous Anonymous May 15, 2016 6:52 AM  

Vox, you do realize that the #GamerGate consumer revolt was expressly against varying outlets?

Anonymous Eric May 15, 2016 6:55 AM  

Vox, you do realize the GamerGate consumer revolt was against various outlets with the expressed aim of getting rid of or reforming them?

Anonymous Steveo May 15, 2016 7:09 AM  

I second the Amen.

Blogger SteelPalm May 15, 2016 7:10 AM  

Are you really surprised by this, Vox? I thought it was a very predictable reaction, although a foolish one, for all the reasons you elucidated above.

Incidentally, I think the interview you did with Louise Mensch was one of your finest.

Having someone that disagreed with most of your views, while still being respectful and giving you a space to voice them, brought out the best in you. You explained yourself convincingly and at length.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 7:16 AM  

Vox, you do realize the GamerGate consumer revolt was against various outlets with the expressed aim of getting rid of or reforming them?

I was part of GG before it was called GG. I know what it was about. At no point did anyone in GG condemn a gamedev for talking to Kotaku, Polygon, or any other avowed media enemies. And Heat Street is considerably less hostile to the Alt Right than Kotaku was to #GamerGate.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 7:16 AM  

Are you really surprised by this, Vox? I thought it was a very predictable reaction, although a foolish one, for all the reasons you elucidated above.

Yes. Every now and then I forget MPAI.

Anonymous Eric May 15, 2016 7:23 AM  

>At no point did anyone in GG condemn a gamedev for talking to Kotaku, Polygon, or any other avowed media enemies.

Assuming the assertion true, that was a mistake on their part. Accepting an interview from an outlet gives the outlet original content to capitalize on which is economically lucrative. But this is besides the point.

As a self identified member of GamerGate, stated "I am not a moderate, I am outlet-agnostic.". This is an inherent contradiction. If you are going to call yourself a GamerGater, claiming neutrality on media is nonsensical.

OpenID archerfisher21 May 15, 2016 7:25 AM  

People need to hear the good message, whether they find it here, or on dalrock, or in the Washington Post or even the Huffington Post. That's just reality.

I used to think that it was nonsense to actually care about SJW's in scifi... some liberals messing with some geeky nerd stuff. Then "Legends of Tomorrow" proved an example of what they want to do with entertainment. It looked campy but entertaining at first, a time traveling type show. Theeennn the episode where they're in the 50's or something came on, which featured two black/white romances and a lesbian romance. Talk about feeling repulsed. These people don't want entertainment. They want to take their beloved causes, put a tiny gilding of a plot line around it, and present it was a movie or TV show you should love. Like a gay obese democrat version of a pastor giving a "prayer" before a dinner. It's just an excuse to deliver another sermon...

Blogger Phillip George May 15, 2016 7:25 AM  

success is a snare however. So remember you are mortal.

Happy Pentecost BTW. May the birthday of the Church, Europe and Western Civilization be remembered at least on one blog, in one short entry, with a few words....

That's funny in a shriekingly mad sort of way. The elephant in everybody's lounge rooms is now wall paperblended into obscurity. Except when the walls are gone.

Blogger JC May 15, 2016 7:34 AM  

@Eric

The closest thing I can remember to Kotaku/Polygon actually engaging with GG was when TotalBiscuit and Stephen Totilo of Kotaku had a podcast discussion. I can't remember any complaints about that. Most of GG seemed positive about it. Totilo was evasive with every question so it only helped us.

The difference between HeatStreet and Kotaku/Polygon etc. is that the latter sites actively and deliberately refused to even consider the other side.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 7:39 AM  

Assuming the assertion true, that was a mistake on their part. Accepting an interview from an outlet gives the outlet original content to capitalize on which is economically lucrative. But this is besides the point.

You're totally wrong. The only time to turn down a media outlet is if they will edit or otherwise present your views dishonestly or unfairly. You are strategically inept.

As a self identified member of GamerGate, stated "I am not a moderate, I am outlet-agnostic.". This is an inherent contradiction. If you are going to call yourself a GamerGater, claiming neutrality on media is nonsensical.

You are not only strategically inept, you can't read either. I am not at all neutral with regards to the media. I know who are my enemies, who are my opponents, who are my allies, and who are my friends. But I am agnostic about permitting any and all of them to present my ideas, so long as they do so accurately.

I didn't see you complaining about me granting interviews to Wired or the Guardian, both of whom are very hostile to #GamerGate, as Heat Street is not.

Blogger Shimshon May 15, 2016 7:41 AM  

If the outlet publishes the unfiltered thoughts of someone like Vox without engaging in manipulative shenanigans a la John Stewart, then it's a plus. I'm not a fan of Louise's seemingly constant interruptions of Vox (he is not guilty of doing the same to her), and I hope she stops (who does she think she is, Bill O'Reilly?), but how is it not good to get alt-right views exposed to vastly more people?

Blogger Jack Hanson May 15, 2016 7:47 AM  

There's a lot of people who do the kind of fainting you're describing, and it boils down to them being upset the AR is getting bigger.

A lot of the people kvetching liked the AR when it was a bunch of philosophy students jerking off with other philosophy students trying to one up each other with obscure dead Germans.

Now that AR is getting out there and people are presenting ideas, they want to LARP as internet aristocrats and act like they're the gate keepers. IDGI but there it is.

Blogger Krul May 15, 2016 7:47 AM  

Is the smug "You DO know that [assertion], right?" tic a Gamma tell?

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 7:51 AM  

Is the smug "You DO know that [assertion], right?" tic a Gamma tell?

It can be, but not always. Sometimes it is polite restraint; that's what the Noble Sir is trying to imitate. In general, the more senseless the application - such as the implication that a well-known LEADER OF #GAMERGATE and the author of one of the most widely read accounts doesn't know something obvious about it - the more reliable it is.

Blogger Alexandros May 15, 2016 7:58 AM  

Ohhhhh, I see now! It's like they're telling Vox to not do what SJW's do! They're advising him against SJW-like entryism in outlets dominated by other groups for fear that this somehow corrupts the alt-right when it's the complete opposite. It's entryism by us; wow.

I didn't understand that aspect of things at all.

Anonymous Steve May 15, 2016 8:02 AM  

Can you even imagine how terrible it would be if the New York Times gave me an op/ed column

Printed in gunpowder-laced blood or no sale.

And it should be titled: GOOD DAY, SIR!

is a card-carrying member of #NeverTrump.

I think I've seen those cards.

Blogger totenhenchen May 15, 2016 8:11 AM  

"All a prevent defense does is prevent you from winning." - John Madden

Blogger totenhenchen May 15, 2016 8:19 AM  

And subtitled: I SAID GOOD DAY!

Blogger Avraham May 15, 2016 8:19 AM  

I agree with the AR about most issues. I am sure a lot of other Jews also do. Most of the AR can be defined as anti socialism. And that is an authentic Torah approach.Respect for private property and family values are Torah values.

Blogger totenhenchen May 15, 2016 8:19 AM  

And subtitled: I SAID GOOD DAY!

Blogger totenhenchen May 15, 2016 8:19 AM  

"All a prevent defense does is prevent you from winning." - John Madden

Blogger Patrick May 15, 2016 8:22 AM  

Heat Street has a no comment policy or do they just turn it off for certain articles?

Anonymous dr kill May 15, 2016 8:23 AM  

Exactly correct, and this is why there never can be compromise. Reasonable compromise, empathetic compromise, a single humanitarian exception; all leading to where the West finds itself today. Government policy at all levels must be extremist. Leave the mopping up to charities.

Blogger Dirtnapninja May 15, 2016 8:26 AM  

In any insurgency you use the weapons of the enemy against them. That means you use their media to promote your message.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 8:27 AM  

Media earns revenue by getting the story out first; the quality is irrelevant as people will read it regardless. If the end goal is to damage these outlets as much as possible, how is providing them a scoop not counter-productive?

It's not a scoop. It doesn't exist. I said NOTHING in that interview I haven't repeatedly said, in much more detail, on this blog and elsewhere. And the goal is not to damage a place like Heat Street. They are opposition, not the enemy. Louise is rock-solid on #Brexit, for example, which is more important than the US election.

But if you give an outlet you are railing against a means of revenue you are taking actions which go against your own stated goals. This is obvious to anyone who understands how money is made on the internet.

Very well, I'll apply your own principles to you. You are now banned from commenting here. Don't come back.

Blogger Earl May 15, 2016 8:28 AM  

Use your enemies to increase your power, until you are strong, and then crush them.

Blogger Josh May 15, 2016 8:28 AM  

If the alt right believes its ideas are good, wouldn't they want those ideas distributed as widely as possible?

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 8:28 AM  

Heat Street has a no comment policy or do they just turn it off for certain articles?

They don't do comments.

Anonymous Instasetting May 15, 2016 8:36 AM  

If the Alt Right learns lessons from Conservatism, those who have fought the good fight before them, the one lesson they should NOT learn is to be solely defensive.

The proper response to SSM is to Inchon the Left, and attack No Fault Divorce, not to huddle with guns out looking for attacking hordes, or even worse, prepare for an armed retreat. The RINOS are the ones stealing cars and running away as fast as they can.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume May 15, 2016 8:36 AM  

Eric,

You sound like that outlier so many cucks worry about: someone who adopts the opposing party's tactics and risks becoming the opposing party. Instead of taking what works from SJW tactics, you took their rabbit mindset.

All I see when I read Eric's words are SJW platforming/no platforming and association neuroses.

Blogger Todd Miller May 15, 2016 8:41 AM  

What is the purpose of "AltRight"? Why not just be pro-White? Why put some ideology first?

Anonymous Instasetting May 15, 2016 8:45 AM  

#32 Because Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was a white guy.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 8:47 AM  

What is the purpose of "AltRight"?

To support and defend Western Civilization.

Why not just be pro-White?

First, because it is a means, not an end. Second, because I am an American Indian.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 15, 2016 8:53 AM  

A sell out consists of the usual desire for "Smart Badges" from the Left.

A few years ago before 99% of the people here had even heard of the alt-right it was common for the proto-alt-righter writers to work towards getting a smart badge as if they were going to be the next "real" George Will of the Right.

Thank god that tendency was policed out and that is the only issue that needs policing on the alt-right.

Blogger Avraham May 15, 2016 8:58 AM  

As far as I can tell the Alt Right simply stands for the way the USA used to be before socialism took hold. I think it is commendable.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 15, 2016 8:58 AM  

Todd do you usually look gift horses in the mouth?

FTR I am pro-white and my most fervent prayers to the gods are that Rockwell's script for the America of 1960 is put into its grave, let the crooks at the ADL and the SLPC go man whore for their dollars.

Blogger Ceasar May 15, 2016 9:02 AM  

I can see why people on the alt right would be a bit hesitant about dealing with many of these liberal rags. The track record of being misrepresented by them or being co-opted is bad. However, if there is any person out there that I believe is more than up to the task of pushing through these liberals and cucks to get a clear, intelligent and thoughtful message sent it would be Vox Day. I think some in the alt right need to put down the coffee and chill. You can't win if you don't engage, no matter how dangerous you think it will be.

Anonymous DissidentRight May 15, 2016 9:03 AM  

Pretty sure that the guys who whine about this kind of thing are Gammas or ex-Gammas showing their roots.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 15, 2016 9:09 AM  

It is really not that difficult people, you go on the usual lefty outlet and you direct people to your blog or website and drive up traffic. Let them pull their crap in the dinosaur media, big deal.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 9:10 AM  

I can see why people on the alt right would be a bit hesitant about dealing with many of these liberal rags. The track record of being misrepresented by them or being co-opted is bad

Certainly. I have publicly warned the Alt Right not to do certain types of interviews for that very reason.

I think some in the alt right need to put down the coffee and chill.

They also need to stop trying to police and control their best talent. It's a bit ironic, they profess to be concerned about cooption and credibility while attempting to play gatekeeper and policeman.

The fact that I won't accept that sort of thing from them should be sufficient to allay any fears that I'll submit to it from anyone else.

Blogger James Dixon May 15, 2016 9:19 AM  

> Ideas stand alone, not on the basis of author, outlet, or association.

Exactly. And if you limit yourself to a carefully vetted list of "approved" outlets, the majority of people will never see your ideas.

> Yes. Every now and then I forget MPAI.

When you're surrounded by people who normally aren't, it's easy to forget. But then I invariably wind up reminding myself when I do something stupid.

> This is obvious to anyone who understands how money is made on the internet.

The majority of Internet sites lose money.

Blogger Student in Blue May 15, 2016 9:21 AM  

@VD
They also need to stop trying to police and control their best talent. It's a bit ironic, they profess to be concerned about cooption and credibility while attempting to play gatekeeper and policeman.

For clarification's sake of the uninitiated, how is this different than policing your own organization from SJW behavior?

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 9:30 AM  

For clarification's sake of the uninitiated, how is this different than policing your own organization from SJW behavior?

1. I'm not part of their organization.
2. It's not based on first- or even second-order priorities. They have no complaints about my views. They aren't even making any about hers. They are complaining about her BACKERS. It's not even a genetic fallacy.

Blogger Sillon Bono May 15, 2016 9:32 AM  

The best defence is a well timed attack

And the attack that works the best should be used repeatedly until unconditional surrendering.

And once you win remove the enemy's HQ and everyone in it with a swift stroke.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes May 15, 2016 9:39 AM  

The demand for ideological purity among the Alt-right is tedious and self-defeating. It reminds me of how the Libertarians have always behaved. If you disagree with them on one plank out of 20 you are disqualified as not being A True Libertarian (TM). That's why they lose every battle. They create a tiny little little clique they can feel smugly superior within. Over at The Right Stuff they've disavowed Milo on the grounds that he likes to date black men. Instead of building a big tent coalition among those that can move the political needle in the right direction, they behave just like Cucks. It's a very strange sort of inverse Cuckoldry that allow them to virtue signal while accomplishing nothing more than bitching about the state of affairs.

Blogger Nick S May 15, 2016 9:53 AM  

Vox's standard position of rational common sense should be called AltCenter from which various degrees of crazy diverge.

Blogger Lovekraft May 15, 2016 10:23 AM  

If it's one thing consistent in our 'movement', it is resilience and long-term strategy, not reacting emotionally like a bunch of sjw freaks.

Vox is declaring the strategy and it's up to us to follow or break away. Knowing the hatred the msm has for us, they are going to try to divide us. And for a VFM to get butthurt because of some interview is ridiculous.

Now, if Vox says something that appears to water down or contradict our core principles, we should debate this here.

No. My money is on Vox, Molyneux, Sargon, Thunderf00t and company.

Blogger JC May 15, 2016 10:26 AM  

"The demand for ideological purity among the Alt-right is tedious and self-defeating."

Most of the police/gatekeepers on Twitter are anonymous and generally the Gas the Jews/Nazi types. I at first thought they were being edgelords but some truly seem to be serious. I'd be more inclined to purge anon profiles acting exactly like leftist caricatures over an outwardly harmless publication like Heat Street.

Blogger Lovekraft May 15, 2016 10:29 AM  

Most of us have been subject to standard sjw attacks. I could go through them, but you likely know that there is little consistency or logic in them, just pure 'they're the devil, burn them!'' arguments.

We on the alt-right are able to see through these worthless attacks and point them out to each other.

Blogger Rollo the Cat May 15, 2016 10:31 AM  

I never cared for the alt-righters because I always sensed they were weird in the way fringe figures often are. They seemed happy with their second class status. All that worshipping of obscure, steely Germanic types, Arno Brecker statues, death heads and other latent homosexual stuff was too strong too ignore.

Now that the light is shining on them, their rodent qualities are more obvious.

Blogger tz May 15, 2016 10:45 AM  

Western Civilization or Christendom?

Yet this is an example of the "good Germans" tearing down anyone who wants to lead. I also know Burns OR and Aamon Bundy isn't working out, but they did something. My response to a lot of the nattering nabobs was to ask what alternative form of action they would recommend.

I expect the alt-right will have its reversals too, but at this point it is shocking people that some would defy the PC thought police.

Puddleglum has extinguished the witch's fire, though it does burn.

Blogger rekrapt May 15, 2016 10:46 AM  

Preaching to the choir pretty much sums it up. What good is the message if you don't bring it to the unwashed? Not everyone can handle the pressure of being a minister of truth without being corrupted. But, Vox isn't everyone. All hail the Supreme Dark Lord! Take their lunch money and make them cry, Vox!

Anonymous Philipp May 15, 2016 11:00 AM  

Vox, my issue regarding with your discussions with Louise Mensch is not that they take place or that she publishes them on her website.

My issue is that you do not seem to be at the top of your game as usual. You let her get away with saying things that are wrong without a counterargument. For example when you talk about the first Fascist Manifesto and its very strong feminist position, she counters that that Mussolini was "Hitler's lap dog". Well the Fascist Manifesto was published in 1919. Back then Mussolini most likely did not even know Hitler. Mussolini came to power in 1922 and was for a decade the leading voice of Fascism before Hitler came to power in 1933. Even after that there were differences between their respective movements and ideologies (for example antisemitism played only a minor role in Italian Fascism). So Louise's argument was not correct. You are far too knowledgable, Vox, not to know that. Why didn't you point it out in the debate? Didn't you have enough time to think about it?

In your first debate, she left the impression that not being sexist and racist is the main principle of Conservatism. Not it is not. That are ideas from the left. You let her get away with that too.

So, what is going on? Is it a tactical approach?

I would appreciate an explanation.


Anonymous Jill May 15, 2016 11:04 AM  

"I am not a moderate, I am outlet-agnostic. No one owns me and no one dictates what I can and what I cannot say. And the Alt Right would do very well to learn from #GamerGate and stop trying to play tone-police or outlet-police."
Thank you.

OpenID simplytimothy May 15, 2016 11:13 AM  

I am new to the altright writings; I am thrilled by them. The experience is similar to a time in my twenties when I took note of every author that Rand had mentioned and set about reading them. The altright feels like Tolstoy and Dostoevsky in depth and intensity.

Ideas should be considered and weighed. A fatal mistake of the Buckley right was to banish ideas by banning their authors.

I believe I remember correctly that Bloom stated that a quality of the American Mind was its ability and desire to look at any idea and consider it. In The Closing of the American Mind, he was witnessing the death of that desire in academia.

The altright/NRx are the green shoots from the seeds that "somebody" decided to kill. Who, seeing them sprout anew cannot feel hope? A sense of purpose? I am especially proud of my Christian brethren in the realm. They are brave, full of integrity.

As for the writing itself, the quality often surpasses the work of the establishment right. The variety of topics absolutely surpasses the work of the establishment right. The tension between this..

I would like to see the transition from representative democracy to a techno direct democracy simply because it’s possible now.

vs

the Throne and Altar guys ...

is interesting.


My only disappointments with the interview were the lack of the update on the train's condition when discussing Zuck's autistic tendencies and the tediousness of Vox's feminist opponent.
















Blogger VD May 15, 2016 11:16 AM  

My issue is that you do not seem to be at the top of your game as usual. You let her get away with saying things that are wrong without a counterargument.

What does that have to do with being at the top of my game? Don't ever make the mistake that you understand what my game is at any given time.

What do you think my objective is in a casual debate with someone like Louise Mensch? Do you seriously think that it is exactly the same when I am debating an SJW, or an economist?

For example when you talk about the first Fascist Manifesto and its very strong feminist position, she counters that that Mussolini was "Hitler's lap dog". Well the Fascist Manifesto was published in 1919. Back then Mussolini most likely did not even know Hitler. Mussolini came to power in 1922 and was for a decade the leading voice of Fascism before Hitler came to power in 1933.

You are seriously going to explain to someone who literally translated the Manifesto of the Fascist Struggle, and has analyzed, in detail, the National Socialists' 1920 Munich Manifesto, that 1919 comes before 1933?

The goal of a debate is not always to destroy and disprove the other side. Sometimes the comparative presentation of one's own case is a sufficient objective.

Anonymous mature-Craig May 15, 2016 11:19 AM  

do what you want to do Vox. I think you would be great on TV or anywhere

Anonymous damntull May 15, 2016 11:20 AM  

Has anyone else considered that Vox may be setting Mensch up for a smackdown in later exchanges? He's been pretty tame in the first couple of exchanges, and hasn't exploited various weaknesses in her positions.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 11:25 AM  

Has anyone else considered that Vox may be setting Mensch up for a smackdown in later exchanges?

I'm not. Why would I want to do that? I'm a guest in her house.

If I can beat both Chicago-school and Austrian economists on free trade, I expect it will be generally understood that I am capable of smacking down just about anyone on pretty much anything. But I don't treat friends, allies, and fellow travelers doing friendly debates the way I treat those who rudely challenge me.

Anonymous damntull May 15, 2016 11:26 AM  

Smackdown was too harsh a word. Didn't mean to imply you were trying to destroy her.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 11:28 AM  

I think you would be great on TV or anywhere

I really wouldn't. My cycle hesitations and convoluted syntax are problems. And I don't have good hair. I know I'm at my best in a written format and I'm fine with that.

Blogger tz May 15, 2016 11:33 AM  

Milo wig.

Anonymous TS May 15, 2016 11:36 AM  

Vox you are a great spokesman for the Alt Right. Do your thing. When can we expect to see you on CNN?

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes May 15, 2016 11:39 AM  

"And I don't have good hair"

And here I thought Trump might win...

Blogger Nick S May 15, 2016 11:40 AM  

My cycle hesitations and convoluted syntax are problems. And I don't have good hair.

Not to mention your attire...

Blogger Josh May 15, 2016 11:45 AM  

Over at The Right Stuff they've disavowed Milo on the grounds that he likes to date black men.

Bahahahahaha

Blogger praetorian May 15, 2016 11:53 AM  

How did the left manage to stick together long enough to push the dildo in past the point of no return?

My impression is that they were very disciplined about not attacking anyone on the left publicly, but I'd be interested to hear other ideas.

Anonymous Philipp May 15, 2016 11:54 AM  

"The goal of a debate is not always to destroy and disprove the other side. Sometimes the comparative presentation of one's own case is a sufficient objective."

Point taken.

Blogger Caedryn Stonelaw May 15, 2016 11:57 AM  

Nick S wrote:My cycle hesitations and convoluted syntax are problems. And I don't have good hair.

Not to mention your attire...

I think he personally offsets that with a sweet throne, but the other option would be to call Milo for a fashion emergency. Which, one of them would love...

Blogger Nick S May 15, 2016 12:03 PM  

I think he personally offsets that with a sweet throne

Equipped with a booster seat of skulls?

Blogger Josh May 15, 2016 12:08 PM  

How did the left manage to stick together long enough to push the dildo in past the point of no return?

Relentless focus on their common enemy, the evil white heterosexual Christian man.

Blogger The Other Robot May 15, 2016 12:14 PM  

In other news, Netanyahu needs to be told that the Holocaust bogeyman no longer works.

Anonymous Not So Great Books for Men lolollllolzlozz May 15, 2016 12:16 PM  

Considering Roosh has (rightly) outed Heat Street as being a controlled opposition website funded by Wall Street, are you sure it's you who are using them versus they who are using you?

Legit question. On board with your goal, questioning this specific tactical choice.

Blogger Josh May 15, 2016 12:22 PM  

Considering Roosh has (rightly) outed Heat Street as being a controlled opposition website funded by Wall Street, are you sure it's you who are using them versus they who are using you?

Counterpoint: Roosh is a Muslim rapefugee

Anonymous mature-Craig May 15, 2016 12:23 PM  

re 11:28: some arguments in favor of Vox on TV

- midwest point of view is under-represented
- The discussion on TV is too dumb and it makes the country dumber
-SJW types get away with too much and they would be less effective

Anonymous LurkingPuppy May 15, 2016 12:24 PM  

praetorian wrote:My impression is that they were very disciplined about not attacking anyone on the left publicly, but I'd be interested to hear other ideas.

Because if they did attack someone on the Left, the Soviet Union would have pulled their funding, and possibly had their agents in the relevant government prosecute them to create a martyrdom story to advance the Soviet cause.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 12:30 PM  

Considering Roosh has (rightly) outed Heat Street as being a controlled opposition website funded by Wall Street, are you sure it's you who are using them versus they who are using you?

He's outed them? I know who owns them. Roosh is understandably more cautious about the mainstream media considering that he was more unfairly vilified than anyone I have ever seen since the Atlanta Olympic bombing suspect.

Considering that I was previously syndicated nationally by both Chronicle Features and Universal Press Syndicate, I find these supposed concerns about my being used by the mainstream media to be comically belated and borderline retarded. If you want to call me a sellout for it, go ahead, you're about 20 years late.

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence May 15, 2016 12:34 PM  

I've unfollowed a lot of anime nazi alt right twitter because they are retarded as hell. If you're attacking weev, Roosh, Milo, and Cernovich, you have no goals you want to reach except for purging people. You sure as hell do not care about advancing anything in this war for the civilization. You all can stay in your spergy debate club with all the cucks clutching the constitution and their "principles."

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence May 15, 2016 12:35 PM  

I've unfollowed a lot of anime nazi alt right twitter because they are retarded as hell. If you're attacking weev, Roosh, Milo, and Cernovich, you have no goals you want to reach except for purging people. You sure as hell do not care about advancing anything in this war for the civilization. You all can stay in your spergy debate club with all the cucks clutching the constitution and their "principles."

Anonymous GreyS May 15, 2016 12:36 PM  

The only time to turn down a media outlet is if they will edit or otherwise present your views dishonestly or unfairly.

This is really just about the only deciding thing. It's why not to do the Daily Show etc and to do lots of other places.

Generally speaking-- if you have a chance to place a (mind)bomb in enemy territory, you do it. If someone is using you and editing your message for propaganda, you don't.

What's the goal? Like it or not we need converts. Think of it as sales. VD will have x% conversion.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2016 12:43 PM  

If the Alt-Right does not want the Dread Ilk... so be it.

We will be the Hard Right. The Hammer to their anvil.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 15, 2016 12:49 PM  

Lügenpresse needs to be destroyed and those who speak for it hanged, burned or beheaded. Ditto for its owners. All are completely irredeemable. Maybe not all who follow it are however. Hence isn't necessarily wrong for VD or any other Alt-right person is wrong to speak with them insofar as they don't end up like the Tea-Party (I seriously doubt VD would morph into Dick Armey in any case). Never forget they are the enemy - not even for a nanosecond. It really is a matter of who is playing whom, so most alt-righters would be better off not speaking with Lügenpresse under any circumstances. There is a reason for the term Lügenpresse after all, though I still like Orwell's Ministry of Truth to describe them.

Blogger Jon M May 15, 2016 12:57 PM  

"How did the left manage to stick together long enough to push the dildo in past the point of no return?"

Entryism requires tolerating people with views you don't like until you take over the joint. Maybe they stick together because they are all waiting for the moment they have enough power to take charge?

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 15, 2016 1:08 PM  

Almost has a ring of concern trolling, trying to get us to self isolate.

On the entryist angle, I am observing a widening purge on the Left over at DailyKos. The Narrative is settling in on Hillary and everyone not climbing on board is finding out what it feels like to have the minute of hate directed at them.

How can people dominated by feelings and cults of greater victimhood ever maintain cohesion? A house divided cannot stand.

Blogger Elder Son May 15, 2016 1:18 PM  

Well, I for one, am glad that the disciples went out amongst the heathen.

And at least Paul gave the Greek's something else to tingle their ears and talk about.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 15, 2016 1:35 PM  

Well, I for one, am glad that the disciples went out amongst the heathen.

Fair point. Too many forget the admonition to be as wise as serpents, though. The more I think about it, the more the Tea-Party comparison fails to hold up. TP was taken over by the enemy very early on. It was a classic case of SJW entryism and takeover. (Keep in mind that I consider folks like Armey and Juan McAmnesty to be SJWs in drag - cucks are the hapless folks who fell for the scam, the rank and file of the TP who believed the lies about opposing Housenigga Hussein.) Only two options for a cuck at the end of the day: take the red pill and see the hideous face of reality or end up as a zek or a corpse in a ditch. That's not what was going on with this interview.

Blogger Shimshon May 15, 2016 1:37 PM  

All this concern trolling and gnashing of teeth doesn't suit the...are these people even Ilk?

The David Pakman interview was a drive-by (unlike this) and Vox still held his own, and brought more readers to VP. I think the exposure is great. I understand some of the specific issues mentioned above (like not calling Louise on the obvious falsehoods regarding Mussolini and Hitler), but to think Vox missed them is laughable.

My own beef is Louise's habit of interrupting Vox. But if he, the Supreme Dark Lord, doesn't call her on it, that's his choice.

In any case, are there further topics of debate planned at Heat Street?

Blogger Josh May 15, 2016 1:38 PM  

All this concern trolling and gnashing of teeth doesn't suit the...are these people even Ilk?

I don't think so

Anonymous mature-Craig May 15, 2016 1:39 PM  

IF I had the following of Vox, I would be really egotistical about it, I would say does this media outlet deserve to be rewarded with my presence, that's how I would decide where to go

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 1:42 PM  

In any case, are there further topics of debate planned at Heat Street?

Yes, although I don't know yet what they will be.

Anonymous Not So Great Books for Men lolollllolzlozz May 15, 2016 1:49 PM  

It's retarded to be concerned about the motives of mainstream media outlets? Yeah? Really? So glad your ego lets you know you're constantly doing the correct move in contrast to special education types like me who might be a bit concerned about a stroll through the viper pit.

Um, no. I wasn't accusing you of selling-out. Not sure where you got that. Maybe you missed that part where I said I agree with your entryist motive in general. Does that towering intellect of yours turn every question that's non-fawning into an attack?

@Josh Piss off. Roosh is not a moslem nor a rapist. He's also helped thousands of white men better themselves. Many of those men are likely to have gone on to produce white children with the white women they've attracted from following his advice. He's encouraged European nationalisms. He's also taken on the SPLC and won. Can your alt right/WN heroes say the same? At least the ones who aren't openly homosexual or autistic?

Blogger praetorian May 15, 2016 1:57 PM  

Relentless focus on their common enemy, the evil white heterosexual Christian man.

Do we have an enemy we can relentlessly focus on?

Blogger Noah B May 15, 2016 2:01 PM  

The threat of rising AltRight stars being coopted by media is real, as long as the media has more money and fame to offer them than the AltRight does. I do not doubt that there are many who would soften their views to appease major media outlets, when presented with the prospect of even relatively modest financial rewards.

But the detractors here are probably not aware that Vox has already had such opportunities and rejected them. I don't see him turning into a mouthpiece for the leftist media.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster May 15, 2016 2:02 PM  

"Maybe they stick together because they are all waiting for the moment they have enough power to take charge?"

Everyone on the left who isn't a useful idiot regards the rest of the left as useful idiots to be used until they have power, then sent behind the chemical sheds to be shot. There can only be one Great Leader, after all, and the last people he wants hanging around are the ones who successfully destroyed the previous society.

The great thing about Obama's election was that the left suddenly decided they'd won, and started fighting each other to be in charge. Now we're seeing those lovely, caring lefties red in tooth and claw, and most of the population don't much like what they see.

Anonymous rubberducky May 15, 2016 2:05 PM  

Look at Donald Trump. If anybody offers him airtime, he'll take it. CNN, Fox, MSNBC, you name it. All comers, he's in. All of the other candidates were notoriously hard to book. Jeb Bush in particular, was very hard to book.

What they did instead, was act like cucks. They sat around complaining that Trump got all this free media. Well, duh. They wanted to shut him down, not to jump in with him.

And Trump smoked them.

Blogger VD May 15, 2016 2:16 PM  

It's retarded to be concerned about the motives of mainstream media outlets? Yeah? Really?

I was with Universal Press Syndicate, which put me in the Boston Globe, the Atlanta Journal/Constitution and the Dallas Morning News, among others, every week. And you're acting as if there is a risk that a few irregular appearances on an Internet site that doesn't have much more traffic than this blog - and certainly has less traffic than I turned down at WND - is irresistible corruption?

Yes. That is absolutely retarded.

Anonymous FP May 15, 2016 2:18 PM  

I expected this after the first article.

Who is using whom folks? Somehow I don't see Vox going the route of littlest chickenhawk.

Blogger Josh May 15, 2016 2:25 PM  

Can your alt right/WN heroes say the same?

I'm not alt right or wn. You must be new here.

Anonymous Jill May 15, 2016 2:43 PM  

It is possible for a friendly debate to be an opportunity to present one's viewpoint to a receptive audience. It doesn't have to be fraught with ulterior motives.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 15, 2016 2:46 PM  

@ Noah B

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Part of the Alt-right's problem in the main is letting go of the 70 year "noble failure" defense tactic. We need to adopt the SJW tactics. Did the Leftoids get "corrupted" by conservatives or traditionalists during their Long March thru the Institutions? So why are we worried about Alt-right rising stars? Perfect is the enemy of the good.

Blogger Timmy3 May 15, 2016 2:51 PM  

The Right should own it's media platforms. Otherwise, the left has a monopoly. I agree with Glenn Reynolds. I hate these new designations. Hard to figure out which one applies to me, but the Tea Party moved to the mainstream and is compromised. The alt right seems no better than the libertarians. I'm an independent conservative.

Anonymous Man of the Atom May 15, 2016 2:57 PM  

Why do elements of the Alt-Right insist on becoming William F. Buckley? Santayana anyone?

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence May 15, 2016 3:08 PM  

"Can your alt right/WN heroes say the same? At least the ones who aren't openly homosexual or autistic?"

Unfair there aren't any WN heroes that aren't autistic. I've checked.

Anonymous johnc May 15, 2016 3:47 PM  

I hate these new designations. Hard to figure out which one applies to me, but the Tea Party moved to the mainstream and is compromised. The alt right seems no better than the libertarians. I'm an independent conservative.

I've decided to self-identify as Christian.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 15, 2016 4:15 PM  

And if you tell me I should not be contributing anywhere, then you will not be commenting here. Live by your professed principles, gentlemen. We wouldn't want you being coopted by me, after all, and I can't risk being coopted by you.

How charitable of you, to aid them in living by their principles. It's the golden rule in action.

Blogger The Other Robot May 15, 2016 4:19 PM  

Charlie Stross has a piece on how to destroy a competitor ...

I don't think anyone has made the obvious suggestion in the comments yet: Diversity.

Blogger Noah B May 15, 2016 4:30 PM  

@other robot
Inflicting diversity on a competitor is the ultimate black knighting move.

Anonymous J. J. May 15, 2016 4:32 PM  

I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh for 15 years, but I remember back in the 90's when listeners challenged him on why he would do an interview with Playboy, he simply asked, "Would the Savior do an interview with Playboy?". The implication being that course he would. THAT's who needs to hear his message. Jesus didn't limit himself to talking to those on the "approved list".

Anonymous J. J. May 15, 2016 4:37 PM  

Sorry, meant that as a new thread and not a direct reply to johnc... but I'm with you... that's the only safe self-identification.

Anonymous Daniel H May 15, 2016 5:28 PM  

No such thing as bad publicity.

Blogger RobertT May 15, 2016 6:09 PM  

I admire your attitude. There come times in every principled person's life when they have to stand alone, when everyone is calling them arrogant or foolhardy and when they look behind them, there's no one standing there. But that's when the measure of a person shines through.

Honestly if I worry about anything with Trump it's this right here. I don't think I have to be concerned, but the way he palsies up to Ryan makes me nervous. I'd prefer he kicks him to the corner.

Blogger vtah May 15, 2016 6:14 PM  

it is so refreshing to see someone defend their position and not give a F. courage is contagious so thank you.

Blogger Doom May 15, 2016 6:22 PM  

I can't say that doesn't have merit. I can't even say you didn't catch me out. I can say, that being caught out, in this manner, was somewhat expected. It's just voicing the obvious. Not so much of a trick as the young and naive might think, if fair enough if just. Still, do what you gotta do. If the message is on par, on course, I'm not too upset about you putting it out. I might claim to be a shepherd of sorts, but not for this group. If this is your group, go for it. I'll keep my lily whites lily white until or unless my turn arrives. You are most likely wasting your time, though I may, someday, waste my time as well.

Blogger vtah May 15, 2016 6:26 PM  

i am so sick of everyone else's damn rules. i read the interviews vox did with mensch and found them cutting edge and insightful because he talks openly about things you're not even allowed to think. defending and explaining your position when opposed requires many skills and being completely transparent and putting your ideas in the open arena for all to see is a good thing.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 15, 2016 6:36 PM  

Slight OT, but it would appear that Barnhardt has finally come to realize something about the USSA. How many years has Vox been repeating statements about the need for anyone with half a grain of sense to remove their kids for public edumacayshun now??

Anonymous Cheddarman May 15, 2016 6:48 PM  

SLAMMED IN THE BUTT BY THE HARD RIGHT

Blogger Escoffier May 15, 2016 7:02 PM  

praetorian wrote:How did the left manage to stick together long enough to push the dildo in past the point of no return?

In point of fact, though it may seem that the dildo is in past the point of no return, we do not know that to be true and scripture tells us that there is always a remnant.

I have hope that not all is lost.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau May 15, 2016 7:13 PM  

The Leftist dildo is so far in the gerbils grabbed it and won't let go.

Anonymous Eric the Red May 15, 2016 7:23 PM  

The alt-right must now agree upon and implement a cohesive strategy. The left has been devising detailed strategies since the '60's, and if we are really in a war we must do the same.

My suggestions:
1) segregation based on political positions... the left should be made to segregate to different universities, and ultimately different states.
2) segregation based on economic welfarism; for blacks on welfare, move to a different state.
3) self-deportation; for all illegals, just enforce existing laws, and build a wall to keep the crime out that has permeated Mexico from top to bottom;
4) stop Mohammedan immigration as per Trump;

Then commit to tactics that fulfill the above strategic goals, e.g., demonstrations etc.

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Anonymous johnc May 15, 2016 7:27 PM  

Slight OT, but it would appear that Barnhardt has finally come to realize something about the USSA. How many years has Vox been repeating statements about the need for anyone with half a grain of sense to remove their kids for public edumacayshun now??

She's also right about the US being a thing of the past. It's all about trying to find a path of transition from where we are now to something completely new and different (and, obviously, Christocentric).

This is one of the reasons I get impatient with people (on our side) who keep making appeals to the US Constitution. What does it take to get people to realize the obvious -- that the whole US is done and it's time to start over?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 15, 2016 7:35 PM  

Man of the Atom

Why do elements of the Alt-Right insist on becoming William F. Buckley?

Lemme answer this several different ways:

Because that model is perceived as successful. Never mind that it clearly has failed, it's perceived as a winner because he had a TV show in the 70's and a magazine until he died. Maybe a confusion of dialectic with rhetoric?

Or perhaps it's the desire for one, glorious, top-down Correct Solution, when the reality is we need 10,000 incorrect bottom-up solutions; if 9999 fail we still have a winner.

IOW - Better the half assed plan here and now than the ideal plan somewhere, sometime in the future.

IOW - Too many alt-right people are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Blogger kudzu bob May 15, 2016 7:36 PM  

@107 You're confusing Limbaugh with Buckley.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 15, 2016 7:40 PM  

This is one of the reasons I get impatient with people (on our side) who keep making appeals to the US Constitution.

I used to be one of those people. So I'm not being snarky when I write this:

Constitutionalist appeals are a modern form of the Ghost Dance.

Blogger praetorian May 15, 2016 8:01 PM  

I have hope that not all is lost.

Amen.

But the unnecessary D&C (and responding to D&C) on the right is depressing.

Everybody calm down, have some swastika snickerdoodles, and start firing left....

Wait, how do I know YOU guys aren't shills...

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 15, 2016 8:57 PM  

@123.
Constitutionalist appeals are a modern form of the Ghost Dance.

That's really quite apt. It's something that should even appeal to our Supreme Dark Indian Lord. Yes, the ghost dance. How'd that work out for them injuns?? Mr. Maxim's machines had greater magic than the ghosts. They even made more ghosts in the process.

Blogger Sheila4g May 15, 2016 9:04 PM  

@123 Well said. There've been a number of well-written pieces about the limitations and problems with the US Constitution at various Alt-Right sites. I've found myself using their thinking and arguments a lot lately.

@114 Gen Kong: I hadn't read Barnhardt for quite a while. She's a bit excessively Catholic for my taste (pace to other Catholics here), but she's never lacked for courage or passion. It's both sad and vindicating to see her realize there's nothing left of the notion of "The United States" worth fighting for, other than an increasingly small remnant of people.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 15, 2016 9:09 PM  

It is a matter of public record that my articles and my interviews have appeared in everything from Pravda to the Guardian, from WorldNetDaily to the Wall Street Journal. Jews and SJWs condemn me for giving credibility to The Daily Shoah and Counter Currents.
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VD, You've got the trifecta again :P

WSJ
SJW
JWS

Blogger Were-Puppy May 15, 2016 9:13 PM  

@8 archerfisher21

Then "Legends of Tomorrow" proved an example of what they want to do with entertainment. It looked campy but entertaining at first, a time traveling type show. Theeennn the episode where they're in the 50's or something came on, which featured two black/white romances and a lesbian romance. Talk about feeling repulsed. These people don't want entertainment. They want to take their beloved causes, put a tiny gilding of a plot line around it, and present it was a movie or TV show you should love. Like a gay obese democrat version of a pastor giving a "prayer" before a dinner. It's just an excuse to deliver another sermon...
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You made it way further into that episode than I did. I got to the part where they were in the 50's diner and they were setting up a mob of white guys to be the bad guys. Then the snarky lefty sermon delivered by Sara was so heavy handed, I turned it off and haven't watched a bit of it since.

It had a lot of potential, but obviously wasted. Who has time to watch that virtue signaling crap?

Blogger Were-Puppy May 15, 2016 9:35 PM  

@78 VD

He's outed them? I know who owns them. Roosh is understandably more cautious about the mainstream media considering that he was more unfairly vilified than anyone I have ever seen since the Atlanta Olympic bombing suspect.
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Richard Jewel!
I love this blog :P

Blogger Were-Puppy May 15, 2016 10:18 PM  

@123 A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty

Constitutionalist appeals are a modern form of the Ghost Dance.
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Ouch

Anonymous Longtime Lurker May 15, 2016 10:26 PM  

The Heat Street discussions between Vox and Mensch are outstanding. And I am assuming that their discussions are being presented in full, that nothing Vox said got left on the cyber equivalent of the cutting room floor.

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 16, 2016 12:33 AM  

Humility is still a Christian virtue.

Remember, you are only a man.

And, Herod the Great.

Anonymous A Basic Summary May 16, 2016 3:32 AM  

Christian-Zionist, Libertarian with latter life caveats, Proud Native American Indian, Mestizo descendent of a Mexican revolutionary, outspoken fervent friend to loud-and-proud homosexual who lauds his arse gaping by black men, resolute ally to persian who espouses the rape of White women, derides Catholic West whilst lauding Protestant America all from 20 years of sacnctuary in Italy; the Alt-Right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpkADOTWSNg

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 16, 2016 4:33 AM  

@ A Basic Summary

And he eats live kittens for breakfast! And flash-cooks baby sloths like lobsters for lunch, the agonized shrieks indicate the adrenaline is sufficient to flavor the meat!

You don't want to know what he fries for dinner....

Anonymous A Basic Summary May 16, 2016 4:53 AM  

Well, mine was just an observation based on facts. But, happy to hear your own summaries.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 16, 2016 5:28 AM  

@ A Basic Summary

You can't POSSIBLY know the horrors the Dark Lord is capable of....he eats the Flesh and Drinks the Blood of a God....

That vile Red Savage.... and he is savage, subtle, but savage to his enemies. Run, flee in terror! It is too late for me, I am enthralled!!! He has taken my mind and molded it according to his Dark Pleasures. But once-happy rose-glasses and utopian amygdala still remains to say...RUN!!!!

The Persian no doubt influenced "50 shades of Grey" to make that a best-seller with his PUA magic arcane formulas.

It isn't so much that helpless white women are raped as seduced into giving up their holy, virginal flowers in a passionate, atavistic writhing of sinful shame and primeval lust for hedonistic swarthy males who take what they want.

Anonymous A Basic Summary May 16, 2016 5:34 AM  

He also reckons he's the voice of God.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 16, 2016 6:07 AM  

@ A Basic Summary

A clever play on wording to be sure, but he is no Metatron. Hie and flee this accursed place! For such mere trifling, gaily bouncing lamb such as you will be torn apart by his ravening murders of crows and unkindness of ravens!

Anonymous A Basic Summary May 16, 2016 6:10 AM  

Did I mention he is a Christian-Zionist?

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 16, 2016 7:28 AM  

@ A Basic Summary

Yes!!! And this is what is so dastardly evil of the man. He doesn't say "Gas the kikes, race war now!!!" He wishes Diaspora Jews to peacefully make Aliyah to Israel, hunker down and stay out of global affairs except for basic trade.

He doesn't fool me, his laissez-faire voluntary neo-Haavara urgings to the Dear Little Persecuted Ones are just to satisfy some deep, dark, twisted desire...I'm sure of it!!! He is not Hitler (that's Drumpf) perhaps he is Goebbels reborn, with a macauhuitl.

Anonymous A Basic Summary May 16, 2016 7:50 AM  

Alt Right figurehead.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 16, 2016 8:15 AM  

@ A Basic Summary

I KNOW....he is even admired, given kudos as a based by....Andrew Anglin and the gay,racist body-builders of My Posting Career!!!

It clearly is too late for you young lamb....you've been drawn in to the Darkness...May Kek be merciful.

Anonymous A Basic Summary May 16, 2016 8:17 AM  

And Greg Johnson.

Blogger Patrikbc May 16, 2016 8:28 AM  

I find it deliciously ironic that you ended that bromantic spergfest, by pointing and crying homosexual autism.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 16, 2016 8:28 AM  

@ A Basic Summary

Vox eats Alysa Rosenbaum devotees like him for midnight snacks dressed in SJW tears and Chicago Boys flayed and baked skins crumbled into fine rinds topped with shallots and a good wine for accompaniment.....

....Well, what is left of them after Malwyn and Spacebunny are through partaking of their unspeakable vices upon these poor souls....

Blogger SciVo May 16, 2016 11:49 AM  

praetorian wrote:Relentless focus on their common enemy, the evil white heterosexual Christian man.

Do we have an enemy we can relentlessly focus on?


The thought police and the cucks who fear them. The only way to stop our words from winning is by preventing them from being spoken.

Blogger Jimmy The Freak May 16, 2016 2:26 PM  

praetorian wrote:How did the left manage to stick together long enough to push the dildo in past the point of no return?

My impression is that they were very disciplined about not attacking anyone on the left publicly, but I'd be interested to hear other ideas.


The Carnival Barker media wasn't out the playing "Let's you and him fight!"

Blogger SciVo May 17, 2016 2:20 AM  

A Basic Summary wrote:He also reckons he's the voice of God.

A man named Theodore used a multilingual pun meaning Theo's Voice.

People like you spazzed out.

I shook my head.

~Fin~

Anonymous Some Guy May 18, 2016 7:55 PM  

Hello Vox, I rarely comment on blogs, but I read you often. I agree with what you are saying - to a certain extent. Exposure is great. Cannot agree more. I feel that this article ignores historical lessons though. If you or cernovich got a talk show, or a column at this point you would be enriching the very enemies we are all fighting. You would also be setting yourself up as Buchanon 2.0, constantly at risk of a purge and more than likely you would be asked to moderate your message. We all have seen that before. Now I am not against entryism. Not at all. However the left goes after the levers of power within an institution, they don't necessarily go after the show gigs. I would love to see Cernovich or you on CNN, but I guarantee it wouldn't be the same Mike or Vox we see on twitter.

Heat Street is an especially curious example as the altright actually has the ideas, they don't. They are just a paint job on a dying media. They have a glorified word press blog. The altright is far better off developing our own media(and we are), with the NYT being a rare exception just because of their history. All that being said, if they publish you without asking you to moderate your message, more power to both you and them.

Last but not least, the altright is not simply about 'ideas' for many of us, and it certainly isn't just some anti-SJW movement. Comparing altrighters to SJWs is a laughable tactic, as many in this comment section have done. SJWs actually win, and if I have to emulate some of their tactics I will do so. A lot of it is about identity. I will never be able to come and go from the altright as you do because as an white guy I am simply not accepted any where else in society from a political perspective. I know you don't share this characteristic. I respect the fact that while you could easily go to the democratic party and be a pandered to minority you have chosen to stand with people like me manning the walls of American Nationalism. While I also respect you withholding the option of leaving the altright at a moments notice it simply doesn't effect me because I have no other choice. In fact it is a little disappointing to be honest. It is like giving someone the option of surrendering to be beheaded, or to fight to the death. In the end we both have to live in this country. There is no Western expansion anyone can run off to anymore like there was in the heyday of rugged individualism.

Anyways, I enjoy your articles, even if you disavow me.

Anonymous Ultimate Shitlord May 18, 2016 8:35 PM  

I think the fear may be that you'll tone it down or do some weird form of misrepresenting like Milo and Breitbart did with their alt-right article--"Teehee they aren't really serious about naming the jew or any of this race realism stuff! They're just edgy teenagers looking to get a rise!", or that any money involvement will mean subservience to Shlomo or some such thing.

I don't see anything wrong if you're able to get the arguments out there unadulterated.

Blogger jonypolo May 19, 2016 7:05 AM  

Who among the alt-right has been complaining about your work with Heat Street? I would like to contact them directly to tell them to stop.

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