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Wednesday, May 18, 2016

How to save science fiction

Brad Torgersen explains how the Tor Cabal is going to save science fiction from the badthinkers:
GRUMPY OLD FAT RICH FAMOUS AUTHOR: Back when I didn’t have two nickels to rub together, the Hugos represented something special in this field. They were the yearly culmination of the collective Fannish spirit. Our communal celebration of what is best in this genre. We did this together — the many, come to unite as one.

AUDIENCE: (tepid applause, some straining forward in their seats, not quite sure where this is going)

GRUMPY OLD FAT RICH FAMOUS AUTHOR: Now, it’s all well and good to get rid of the Bad People™ because Lord knows I’m as sick of them as you all are.

AUDIENCE: (a spontaneous roar of agreement)

GRUMPY OLD FAT RICH FAMOUS AUTHOR: Our genre has never, ever been about Bad People™ nor should we ever be forced to tolerate the intolerant, who of course were never real Fans in the true meaning of Fannishness anyway, because we say so.

AUDIENCE: (collective orgasm of hearty ascent)

GRUMPY OLD FAT RICH FAMOUS AUTHOR: But this has to be done very politic-like. Why do you think all the great Socialist reformers of the past hundred years, have always staged elections? It didn’t matter if they were at the pinnacle of a one-party system, and gave themselves titles like “President.” What mattered is that their subjects — excuse me, citizens — were able to vote. That is the basis of the Republic — allowing people to pretend that there is actual democracy happening.

AUDIENCE: (murmurs, a few shouts, some scattered golf claps)

MODERATOR: (coughs nervously) But, sir, how are we to preserve and protect our glorious accolades?

SHRIMPY FAMOUS-ON-THE-INTERNET AUTHOR: I know nobody included me in this conversation, but I am going to include myself anyway, because everybody knows it’s all about me, in the end — me, me, and me. In fact, the only reason the Bad People™ exist at all, is because they are out to get me. That’s why there’s trouble in the Peoples Republic of Science Fiction. There are individuals who don’t like me, and have decided to get militant about it.

MODERATOR: (fawning over Shrimpy Famous-On-The-Internet Author) Well, please, by all means, have my chair! We would love to hear more.

AUDIENCE: (cheers, laughter)

SHRIMPY FAMOUS-ON-THE-INTERNET AUTHOR: I agree one hundred percent with my lovely and esteemed colleague, who is wealthier and more famous than me, so I will suck up to him at every opportunity — just like I do with that rock star Sandman guy. We of the pure and true fold, don’t need to tolerate the intolerant. Diversity means ensuring that a rainbow spectrum of ethnicities, genders, and sexualities — who all vote the same in national politics, have the same ideas on economics, and also literary taste — are afforded the opportunity to come celebrate with us, this most wonderful thing we call Science Fiction and Fantasy.

AUDIENCE: (massive, outlandish, squeeing approval)

SHRIMPY FAMOUS-ON-THE-INTERNET AUTHOR: But we have to be careful about how we go about ensuring that the Baen people, the FOX News viewers, the homophobes — did I tell you this hour how much I love and adore all gay people, for all time, everywhere? Because I, like, totally do! — and the transphobes, islamophobes, and other assorted Heinlein devotees, are kept out of the awards process. Do it too bluntly, and we risk sacrificing the public face of the field. We have to be sure we can say to the world — with straight faces — that Science Fiction and Fantasy is still a field that celebrates all ideas. Even though we want to make damned sure that SF/F’s power people and core literary prizes remain firmly on the side of the right ideas. Progressive ideas. For all definitions of Progressive which include, “Whatever Jon Stewart is being cute about this week.”

AUDIENCE: (murmuring wonderment at the great man’s epic intellect)

MODERATOR: (crying) My God, that was so beautiful . . . (reaches for tissue)

GRUMPY OLD FAT RICH FAMOUS AUTHOR: (steeples fingers) We’re kind of stating the obvious at this point. So, since we agree that we can’t be direct in addressing the problem of Bad People™ meddling in our business, what’s your proposal?

EDITOR TO THE SHRIMPY FAMOUS-ON-THE-INTERNET AUTHOR: (clears throat) Actually, it’s not his proposal, it’s mine. Because when it comes right down to it, we all know you writers would sell your souls for the right offer; from my house specifically. I can make or break any of you, any time I want. Same goes for people like that chump moderator over there, licking the hand of the caterer who’s putting out the lavish spread of food and treats — a spread my company is of course paying for, because the best way to win the hearts and minds of Fandom, is to give them free shit. Anyway, you all will rubber stamp whatever I want, in the end — just like when we split the editor category — so I’ll have my wife draft something on our blog later in the week. We can assume it will pass with flying colors at the business meeting, right?
It's funny because it's true. A lot of people don't realize that EPH is a mandate straight out of the Nielsen Hayden family blog, previously known for creating the Best Editor Long Form award so I could be nominated every year Patrick Nielsen Hayden would finally get a few Hugos and stop crying about always losing out to Gardner Dozois.

Meanwhile, the second stage of my master plan is rapidly coming to fruition.
To the CEOs of Penguin Random House, Macmillan, HarperCollins, Hachette and Simon & Schuster

We, the undersigned, are writing on behalf of the Black community, which has long supported the publishing industry despite being shut out of it. College-educated Black women are the group most likely to read books in the U.S., and Black people read more of every type of book. People of color make up 37% of the US population. The publishing industry cannot continue to shut out and ignore the literary interests of communities of color.

Black authors, reviewers, and editors are being shut out of the publishing industry. Despite pledges and commitments from the most influential institutions to rectify this imbalance, little progress has been made. The 2015 Diversity Baseline Survey, conducted by Lee & Low books, shows just how racially homogeneous the publishing industry is. 79% of publishing and review journal staffers are white. A full 86% of executives are white. The dearth of racial inclusion within the publishing industry is reflected in the books that are accepted, produced, and sold. Only 10% of children’s books published since 1994 have been by, or about, people of color.

Major publishers have been historically averse to publishing books by or about Black individuals, averaging fewer than four African-American biographies a year. Journalism outlets like the New York Times and NPR regularly publish reading lists comprised almost exclusively of white authors. In majority non-white cities like New York, more than 60% of the cultural sector, which includes museums, theaters and other organizations, are white. And lack of editorial insight into sensitive historical and cultural issues can lead to harmful, ignorant books by white authors being published despite protest from Black communities.

The reality is that people of color often come from low-income backgrounds and have less access to professional opportunities or mentorship networks within the publishing industry. Unless the publishing industry makes a concerted, well-resourced effort to lower barriers that keep out minorities, the status quo will never change. Participating in voluntary diversity surveys or pledging to pay more attention to racial demographics is only an acknowledgement of the diversity crisis. Large publishing institutions should fund initiatives that foster inclusion and create opportunities for authors, reviewers, and editors of color to thrive within the industry.

There have been myriad discussions on the necessity of diversity, on the importance of inclusion, on the value of equitable racial representation in not just publishing, but every industry. But we have come to a point where those words and sentiments must be matched with actions. When presidential candidates feel comfortable spewing hateful rhetoric to their supporters, it is a sign that all of us must do more to fight back against ideas and beliefs that divide or endanger people of color. Books shape our perceptions, give us insights into different experiences, and teach us lessons that we carry our entire lives.

Will you support a future that recognizes and values the literary voices and talents of Black people and people of color?
Yes, yes, absolutely yes! I could not agree more and I signed the petition. I absolutely support it, in fact, I will go one step further and demand that the CEOs of Penguin, Random House, Macmillan, HarperCollins, Hachette, and Simon & Schuster publish ONLY black WOMEN and women of color and/or diverse sexual orientations and identities. After all, "black people read more of every type of book."

You can't argue with that.

This year's Nebula Awards, where 24 out of the 34 works nominated for the award were written by women from multiple racial and cultural backgrounds and a spectrum of sexual orientations, and only 5 works were written by straight white men, is a step in the right direction. But we're not there yet! Not yet!

We must not stop until Pink SF is 100 percent SJW-converged, and 100 percent of the authors, editors, and awards are black women and women of color!

UPDATE: And you thought I was kidding.
Dear Vox,

Thank you for taking action and adding your voice to the demand that the "Big Five" publishing houses create internships specifically for Black people and people of color. With your help we can ensure that diversity is more than just a buzzword used by companies. We can ensure that racial inclusion and equity become a reality, and that we are included in the portrayal of our stories.

Sincerely,

Brandi, Rashad, Arisha, Bernard, Brittaney, Evan, and the rest of the ColorOfChange team 

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169 Comments:

Blogger Sherwood family May 18, 2016 8:35 AM  

VD, if you could achieve that breakthrough of diversity...then Castalia House would indeed reign supreme because...geez...the thought of trying to find a decent book at a fully converged publishing house sounds like an exercise in futility.

Anonymous WinstonWebb May 18, 2016 8:37 AM  

Weaponized argumentum ad absurdum?

What's not to love?

Anonymous Steve May 18, 2016 8:39 AM  

Also, Hugo Gernsback was a racist.

SFF cannot be inclusive and socially just so long as it continues to honour this dead white racist who proposed that black people be literally erased through genetic science, when he wasn't publishing his rape culture manual SEXOLOGY.

The Hugo awards should be renamed the Fat Black Womyn of Colour awards, or the "Bradfords" for short.

The historic racial injustice of the Hugos being dominated by beneficiaries of white supremacy - like Connie Willis - needs to be addressed. Connie Willis and others must apologise to all Fat Black Womyn of Colour for their role in perpetuating this shameful system of oppression.

Blogger Gaiseric May 18, 2016 8:40 AM  

Why stop there? How many of those CEOs and other important corporate executives are white? THEY should be replaced by people of color!

Blogger VD May 18, 2016 8:45 AM  

Why stop there? How many of those CEOs and other important corporate executives are white? THEY should be replaced by people of color!

SHHHHHHHH!

Blogger Salt May 18, 2016 8:50 AM  

Give these people what they want. Yes.

Blogger SteelPalm May 18, 2016 8:53 AM  

Beautiful writing, Vox.

I too was touched by the horrible plight of people of color, specifically those college-educated black women who read more of every type of book out there than anyone else. (Including, I'm sure, works on differential geometry, functional analysis, and optics)

This gross injustice must be corrected, and I can think of no better solution than forcing all of the big publishers to only hire black women.

Anonymous Strange Aeons May 18, 2016 8:55 AM  

I look forward to such creative and diverse titles as:

- Treyvon and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day
- Where the Nubian Things Are
- Green Eggs and Chitlins
- The Chronicles of AfriNarnia
- The Wheel of Time that We Created, Not Whitey
- The Hitchikers Guide to Detroit
- I, Rapperbot
- A Clockwork Black
- Attractive and Successful Stranger in a Strange Land
- Farrakhan 451
- Pimp My Stainless Steel Rat


Blogger SteelPalm May 18, 2016 9:06 AM  

@8 "Pimp My Stainless Steel Rat"

I like the cut of your jib. Let's not forget other future classics such as

Dunetroit
A Crackpipe for LeiBronda
The Man is a Harsh Bitch

Blogger Alexander Thompson May 18, 2016 9:11 AM  

Most paperbacks don't bother with a photo on the back. I know authors don't want to hear it.

But the story is what readers care about. Not the author.

Blogger Krul May 18, 2016 9:14 AM  

The Big Five are racist and Facebook is sexist.

Good. The greatest real positive contribution the SJWs can make is to devour their own.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 18, 2016 9:14 AM  

Nothing better than two or more groups of lefty voters fighting to the death, and death it is I hope.

Blogger Dave May 18, 2016 9:15 AM  

How many of those CEOs and other important corporate executives are white? THEY should be replaced by people of color!


The people of color chosen to replace the white executives will not fully be able to perform their duties if their housing situation is not befitting of their executive status. Therefore I propose we move the new executive people of color into the posh mansions and estates of the deposed white executives.

Of course the deposed white executives will be allows 2 weeks to GTFO.

Anonymous 5343 May 18, 2016 9:15 AM  

I find this nonsense about being "shut out" asinine. What's to stop blacks from starting up their own Castalia House equivalents to promote black SF, just as CH promotes blue? For that matter, what's to stop blacks starting up their own publishers in every genre?

Oh. Wait. You mean then they'd have to put their money where their mouths are, demonstrating that there actually ISN'T a market-of-color for this stuff, instead of guilting Whitey into doing it for them for free?

Well, that makes perfect sense then. Never mind.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 18, 2016 9:15 AM  

I briefly considered fisking that petition, but why bother?

They may as well be demanding more access to the exciting new "punch-card machine" industry.

May favorite line:

And lack of editorial insight into sensitive historical and cultural issues can lead to harmful, ignorant books by white authors being published despite protest from Black communities.

The stupidity! It. Really. Does. Burn.

Blogger Salt May 18, 2016 9:15 AM  

@update... Awesome!

Blogger ZhukovG May 18, 2016 9:18 AM  

"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."

Paul Atreides

Anonymous Instasetting May 18, 2016 9:19 AM  

And here is the Alt-Right's recent fears incarnated. Vox has sold his soul for a kind word from ColorsofChange. We all knew this had to happen as soon as he started going on Heat Street.

Truly sad.

Blogger Paul Lutgen May 18, 2016 9:20 AM  

Vox, is this parody? It sounds serious. Aren't you making the same demands for diversity that an SJW would be making. It sounds like you are serious and the other commenters aren't. If it is serious than it appears even the publishing houses recognize the grim reality about having diversity "will it make money".

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 18, 2016 9:24 AM  

@14

Its straight out extortion al la Jesse Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 18, 2016 9:27 AM  

I too signed that petition.

Anonymous Apollo May 18, 2016 9:28 AM  

Facepalm. Sigh.

Look up "black knighting."

Blogger Student in Blue May 18, 2016 9:36 AM  

We all knew this had to happen as soon as he started going on Heat Street.

Truly sad.


It's anotha shoah!

Anonymous ColorofChange May 18, 2016 9:40 AM  

Thank you Vox for acknowledging our thank you note. Unfortunately sone people of color were offended that they were not named; so here they are: Latifah; Shaniqua; Latoya; Laquisha; La'Tanya; Rohandra; Bon'Quisha; Sha'Tanya; Toprameneesha; Bonifa; Shataniana; Levondia; Bufanaquishria; La'Quishraniqua; Barbeesha; Mo'Nique; Abduiniana; Fo'Landra.

Blogger VD May 18, 2016 9:40 AM  

Vox, is this parody? It sounds serious. Aren't you making the same demands for diversity that an SJW would be making.

I am stone cold serious. I absolutely support the petition's goals and more. I can't think of anything that would be better for Castalia House than a true commitment to diversity on the part of the Big Five.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 18, 2016 9:40 AM  

Puppies for the gals of CoC, take that Torlings and take it hard, real hard, hurtful hard.

Anonymous Shaniqua Jackson May 18, 2016 9:41 AM  

Shaniqua Jackson just signed the petition.

Anonymous Tingles don't project! May 18, 2016 9:45 AM  

This is just as good as lawfare...

Anonymous 5343 May 18, 2016 9:46 AM  

ColorofChange wrote:... Barbeesha; Mo'Nique; Abduiniana; Fo'Landra.



I'm guessing "Fo'Landra" is male, and has at least 10 kids by eight different mothers ...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 18, 2016 9:46 AM  

Has Scalzi signed it yet? Fat Bastard Rapeman? The senior butt plugs at Tor?

Virtue signaling shall come at a cost.

Blogger JDC May 18, 2016 9:49 AM  

Vox, is this parody? It sounds serious. Aren't you making the same demands for diversity that an SJW would be making.

Don't interrupt, but encourage the enemy when they proceed to destroy themselves.

Blogger Ron May 18, 2016 9:51 AM  

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Blogger Student in Blue May 18, 2016 9:51 AM  

@24. ColorofChange

You forgot Harlemeesha, Grapedrankisha, Ta'nay'nay, and Obamanique

Blogger YIH May 18, 2016 9:51 AM  

College-educated Black women are the group most likely to read books in the U.S., and Black people read more of every type of book.
Yeah, right. Pull my other leg. Detroit's illiteracy rate is about 50% (or so says HuffPo)
It wouldn't surprise me if Africans IN America as a whole top 30% illiteracy.
I've mentioned in the past there were NFL players who couldn't deal with The Cat in The Hat.
People of color make up 37% of the US population.
Nice expansion of definition there, Jose at the Home Depot and Apu at the Kwicky Mart have nothing to do (and generally want nothing to do) with Shaniqua and her does.

Blogger The Other Robot May 18, 2016 9:53 AM  

will go one step further and demand that the CEOs of Penguin, Random House, Macmillan, HarperCollins, Hachette, and Simon & Schuster publish ONLY black WOMEN and women of color and/or diverse sexual orientations and identities.

And I will go one step further and demand that the CEOs of Penguin, Random House, Macmillan, HarperCollins, Hachette, and Simon & Schuster resign and replace themselves with Women of Color.

Anonymous Comptonia May 18, 2016 9:53 AM  

Shaniqua Jackson just signed the petition.

Shaniqua! where you been girl? I been trying to get yor sister's #s how come she don't call me?

Anonymous La'Ree Niven May 18, 2016 9:58 AM  

Ayo... hol up... hol up!
So you be saying is...
WE WUZ KZINTI an sheet?

Blogger #7139 May 18, 2016 10:00 AM  

It is done, Supreme Dark Lord.

Blogger James Dixon May 18, 2016 10:01 AM  

> Just make sure to get that business meeting packed with our guys. Shouldn’t be hard. Nobody but Trufans gives a crap about the business meeting anyway. There won’t be enough Bad People™ there to override or overrule whatever we decide to adopt..

They do seem very certain of that, don't they. I wonder what it would take to convince them otherwise.

Blogger Jack Ward May 18, 2016 10:04 AM  

I cannot decide if this posting and the 'movement' that prompted it could be any more choice. Answer is that, knowing this Dark Lord, probably.

Anonymous ColorofChange May 18, 2016 10:05 AM  

@SiB Thank you we tried to get Grapedrankisha to sign up but she was all messed up on grape drank you know how she is

Anonymous Longtime Lurker May 18, 2016 10:07 AM  

"People's Republic of Science Fiction." This concept has potential. To wit, in the PRSF, Tor would be the Department of Narrative Enforcement. And Tor editors would be the functional equivalent of Narrative Control Agents. Kudos to Torgerson.

Blogger The Kurgan May 18, 2016 10:10 AM  

Judging from the sudden drop in average IQ at the comments on this blog it seems Vox has truly embraced multiculturalism at home first.
Finally, alone no more, my mestizo friend!

Blogger The Other Robot May 18, 2016 10:14 AM  

No doubt those immigrants to the world of reading will double someone's investment in no time.

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 10:15 AM  

"And here is the Alt-Right's recent fears incarnated. Vox has sold his soul for a kind word from ColorsofChange. We all knew this had to happen as soon as he started going on Heat Street."

In the immortal words of Pepe' Le Pew....

/leFacepalm

Anonymous Alsos May 18, 2016 10:16 AM  

"Diversity means ensuring that a rainbow spectrum of ethnicities, genders, and sexualities — who all vote the same in national politics, have the same ideas on economics, and also literary taste..."

In other words, they don't want the whole rainbow just a narrow sector of one.

Blogger The Other Robot May 18, 2016 10:19 AM  

In other news, Europe's lack of people of color caused it to fail ... err, oh.

Blogger Dexter May 18, 2016 10:20 AM  

La'Ree Niven

Ayo... hol up... hol up!
So you be saying is...
WE WUZ KZINTI an sheet?


Get back to work on Space Feline Butt Invasion!

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 10:23 AM  

"Get back to work on Space Feline Butt Invasion!"

Two Man-Kzin references in one thread.

Perhaps all is not lost.

Blogger Gaiseric May 18, 2016 10:24 AM  

Nate wrote:"And here is the Alt-Right's recent fears incarnated. Vox has sold his soul for a kind word from ColorsofChange. We all knew this had to happen as soon as he started going on Heat Street."

In the immortal words of Pepe' Le Pew....

/leFacepalm

To paraphrase Ben Kenobi: Who's worse? The "sarcastist" who is inadvertently taken seriously by the obtuse, or the "sarcastist" who follows him who is inadvertently taken seriously by the obtuse?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 18, 2016 10:24 AM  

At Drudge left hand column, the New Racial Theorists are after CBS. It seems the NRTs have done a phenotypical survey and discovered that non-protected class race and gender types take up too much air time according to the NRTs

Anonymous Instasetting May 18, 2016 10:25 AM  

Nate,
Can you comment on the rumor that you're selling all your guns, and buying Glocks in their place?

Blogger ZhukovG May 18, 2016 10:26 AM  

I would further recommend that Samuel R. Delany be hence forth granted the opportunity to speak at all Hugo award ceremonies. Either as opening, closing or keynote speaker. His fearless writing style has contributed so much to ‘legitimate’ SF/F that I feel this is his due. Further, I believe his unique perspective on human relations will lend the appropriate gravitas to these proceedings that they richly deserve.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis May 18, 2016 10:28 AM  

I have always found it amusing that Vox never fails to state his goals thereby giving his enemies the chance to not make a move that is advantageous to him and yet they proceed to do so any ways.

Anonymous Michael Maier May 18, 2016 10:29 AM  

.......... No words.

AWCA indeed.

Blogger Dave May 18, 2016 10:31 AM  

@The Other Robot: to be fair, the American tank crews are still adjusting to the hi heel red pumps

Blogger praetorian May 18, 2016 10:39 AM  

Just...

Blogger Timmy3 May 18, 2016 10:46 AM  

Blacks are 13% of the population. Maybe they are seeing a trend. The black and Hispanic populations increased while the white population decreased to 73%. They are still jumping the gun. We shouldn't be so racist to cater to how a story should be told.

Anonymous ColorofChange May 18, 2016 10:54 AM  

@Timmy3

Why you be so parochial, man? These publishers are global. We ain't talking your rascist numbers, man, we talking worldwide.

Blogger Gaiseric May 18, 2016 10:55 AM  

Timmy3 wrote:Blacks are 13% of the population. Maybe they are seeing a trend. The black and Hispanic populations increased while the white population decreased to 73%. They are still jumping the gun. We shouldn't be so racist to cater to how a story should be told.
Black =/= People of color.

Blogger D347|-| May 18, 2016 11:02 AM  

I believe the link below is where they get their figures from.

http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/01/16/a-snapshot-of-reading-in-america-in-2013/

Blogger Jimmy The Freak May 18, 2016 11:02 AM  

Instasetting wrote:Nate,

Can you comment on the rumor that you're selling all your guns, and buying Glocks in their place?


I heard he was only buying one Glock 9mm. "Because it is the only gun I'll ever need."

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 11:02 AM  

"Can you comment on the rumor that you're selling all your guns, and buying Glocks in their place?"

I have many 1911s... including one I built and hand fitted my self. Do they call me Nate the 1911 guy? My favorite carry weapon is a Steyr M40a1... an usual and distinctive weapon... Do they call me the Steyr guy? I have rugers and Smith and wessons and walthers and CZs and Springfields. I have Taurus weapons... and several beretta weapons. Do they call me Nate the Gun Whore? No.

But I buy one Glock...

Blogger Student in Blue May 18, 2016 11:04 AM  

Correction Nate, one Glock while having trashed Glock several times.

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 11:07 AM  

"Correction Nate, one Glock while having trashed Glock several times."

Which is also odd... because I have always owned Glocks. That's how I know they are pieces of shit.

Anonymous kfg May 18, 2016 11:08 AM  

"Two Man-Kzin references in one thread."

We're gonna need more Kzin chow.

Blogger Student in Blue May 18, 2016 11:09 AM  

Fair enough.

Blogger RobertT May 18, 2016 11:09 AM  

They'll have to build more walls if they expect to keep you out.

Anonymous MendoScot May 18, 2016 11:11 AM  

Nate wrote:In the immortal words of Pepe' Le Pew....

/leFacepalm


Truly, one of the Western Canon’s underrated philosophers.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 18, 2016 11:11 AM  

"can lead to harmful, ignorant books by white authors"

I loved this line. I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

Nor have I met a book that knew anything about anything, so in fact ALL books are ignorant (being inanimate kind of rules anything else out entirely, much like the person who "authored" the phrase in question).

I would dearly like to beat this person with a heavy thesaurus, though; just to make the point.

AFTER the Convergence, naturally. I would never interrupt the Dark Lord's enemies while they're busy ceding the field to him entire. That would be so ... ungrateful.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 18, 2016 11:11 AM  

Fabulous Nate, the Flaming Glocksucker.

One is all it takes...

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 11:13 AM  

"One is all it takes..."

to paraphrase some advice I once gave...

"Son... you cannot un-buy that Glock."

Blogger Josh May 18, 2016 11:14 AM  

Judging from the sudden drop in average IQ at the comments on this blog it seems Vox has truly embraced multiculturalism at home first.
Finally, alone no more, my mestizo friend!


#AllCommentsMatter

Blogger Josh May 18, 2016 11:16 AM  

I loved this line. I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

There are lots of harmful books.

The Communist Manifesto
Eat Pray Love
Microsoft PowerPoint For Dummies

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 11:18 AM  

also... I'm not sure Meztizo is the correct nomenclature. I believe Mutt is more accurate.

Anonymous Steve May 18, 2016 11:19 AM  

I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

My mother smacked me around the head with a Bible.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 18, 2016 11:20 AM  

Scalzi and PNH are understandable. They are the biggest fish in a very small pond. Scalzi's deal with Tor is certainly nice, even though it apparently set him off in such a panic that he couldn't deliver his latest pastiche.

On the other hand it's hardly in the same league as James Patterson's deal with Hachette. (Which I somehow suspect will not be changed despite this heart rending appeal).

But is Martin such an instinctive loser he doesn't know when he's won? He's actually in the big time. His books are in the front of the book store or they would be if he could ever get them written.

Bottomline he's supposed to be too big to worry himself over this piddling little award. Yet his world clearly still revolves around it.

Blogger Nate May 18, 2016 11:20 AM  

"Communist Manifesto
Eat Pray Love
Microsoft PowerPoint For "

Look up the amazon reviews of a book called Boundaries. Its got a trail of destroyed families a mile wide.

Anonymous WinstonWebb May 18, 2016 11:21 AM  

also... I'm not sure Meztizo is the correct nomenclature. I believe Mutt is more accurate

Messican and Injun, eh?
Vox "Chavez y Chavez" Day

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 18, 2016 11:24 AM  

As commendable as the petition by ChangeOfColor is, it does not go far enough. There are many people, some of color, who cannot read at all and who would buy books if they were properly represented in the publication process. It is obvious rank bigotry to exclude the illiterate from the publication world

In addition to demanding that all the top CEO's of publication houses be black, we should demand that an appropriate percentage of editors be illiterate. How else can the illitero-American population be properly served?


Illitero-Americans, if you can't read this, you are being repressed!

Anonymous Orville May 18, 2016 11:26 AM  

Glorious! The Dark Lord has launched their own nukes on their headquarters and will soon be ruler of the Publishing world. Nuffin can stop him, not even the dreaded Dindu.

Blogger Krul May 18, 2016 11:27 AM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Illitero-Americans, if you can't read this, you are being repressed!

Write for free help

Blogger Shell May 18, 2016 11:29 AM  

Big Biggsby supports Black people in the Big 5.

Anonymous kfg May 18, 2016 11:36 AM  

"In addition to demanding that all the top CEO's of publication houses be black, we should demand that an appropriate percentage of editors be illiterate."

I'll let someone else take this one. I like my straight lines with a bit of a challenge to them.

Anonymous Mr. Rational May 18, 2016 11:37 AM  

Laughing so hard... especially at those who do not recall Napoleon's dictum "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."

Now to dig into the math I need to finish chapter 3.

Blogger Clint May 18, 2016 11:38 AM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:As commendable as the petition by ChangeOfColor is, it does not go far enough. There are many people, some of color, who cannot read at all and who would buy books if they were properly represented in the publication process. It is obvious rank bigotry to exclude the illiterate from the publication world

In addition to demanding that all the top CEO's of publication houses be black, we should demand that an appropriate percentage of editors be illiterate. How else can the illitero-American population be properly served?

Illitero-Americans, if you can't read this, you are being repressed!


No, they have their illitero-books already. You missed these.

Blogger Guitar Man May 18, 2016 11:39 AM  

My SIL is a huge advocate of that Boundaries book. I never read it nor investigated it to see what it was about. Her two year marriage ended in divorce after she heeded the advice of some "Christian" women to proceed. Sure, her husband fell back into his drug addiction prior to their divorce, but I'm sure he wasn't the only person to blame for that failed marriage.

Blogger VD May 18, 2016 11:45 AM  

I'm not sure Meztizo is the correct nomenclature. I believe Mutt is more accurate.

I prefer "La Raza Cosmica". My pronouns are The Shadow that Descends and Yes, I Will Cut Your Heart Out.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 18, 2016 11:47 AM  

Josh wrote:I loved this line. I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

There are lots of harmful books.

The Communist Manifesto

Eat Pray Love

Microsoft PowerPoint For Dummies


Only if you're stupid enough to believe them.

Steve wrote:I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

My mother smacked me around the head with a Bible.


She plainly hit you too hard.

But you were harmed by her, not the book.

A question of agency.

Blogger borderwalker May 18, 2016 11:47 AM  

@63: Please tell us more about the Steyr (or point to where you've written about it elsewhere).

I've heard good things from one other person whose opinion I trust. I'm interested in yours.

Thanks!

Blogger Rusty Fife May 18, 2016 11:54 AM  

VD,

I can't thank you enough for pointing out this amazing campaign to help the disadvantaged. I am truly warmed by all the joy the VFM have brought to the world by embracing this fight for diversity.

How can anyone accuse the Ilk of racism after this act of bravery? By publicly declaring their support for this inclsion, I'm certain The Real Racist Right will ban us from their midst and say mean things about us.

Fortunately, we don't care.

Blogger Bullitt315 May 18, 2016 11:59 AM  

Sorry to be dense but what's EPH stand for?

Anonymous Emperor of Icecream May 18, 2016 12:00 PM  

No book justice, no publishing peace!

Anonymous Laz May 18, 2016 12:08 PM  

37% of the US population!? How did we all of a sudden go from 40-ish million to triple that in one year?

Blogger dc.sunsets May 18, 2016 12:11 PM  

Blacks can be forgiven for believing they are taking over North America and believing they are always the wisest, most capable people in every mixed-race group.

After all, this is the image carried on the Tee Vee every second of every day (both programming and commercials.)

For the same reason that many Americans now think queers are 33% of the population and a TN school official was recently quoted that 3% of students were trans, blacks surely can believe they are 75% of America.

Blogger James Dixon May 18, 2016 12:13 PM  

> Sorry to be dense but what's EPH stand for?

http://midamericon2.org/business-passed-on/

Scroll down to entry A.7. The other major change is A.6.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 18, 2016 12:13 PM  

Bullitt315 wrote:Sorry to be dense but what's EPH stand for?

E Pluribus Hugo - an attempt by SJWs to "fix" the Hugo awards so as to exclude people like us from their open inclusive community.

Naturally, it won't work, but instead will embed us permanently in their side.

Hence, the self-styled expert's EPH+ and threats of EPH++.

(Sure that last one will be Double Plus Good!)

Blogger Bullitt315 May 18, 2016 12:22 PM  

@96&97

Thanks

Blogger borderwalker May 18, 2016 12:22 PM  

@61: Color me a little skeptical of the Pew poll.

They claim that their survey (n=1005) has a 95% confidence interval with an error margin of +/-3.5%.

This doesn't track with the endlessly repeated assertions that reading is in decline, or that half of the population does not read another book in their life after leaving high school. (Of course, those are educrats - or their enablers - making the case that we don't spend enough money on schools, so those numbers are probably self-serving.)

Anecdotal: I helped two college-educated millenial neighbors move yesterday. I saw not one book in their house, either before they packed or in their effects as I helped them load the truck. (They have phones, but I've never once seen them do anything but surf and text with them...)

Surely the survey respondents must be exaggerating the number of books they read (because reading is a good thing, most people want to be thought of as smart/educated, and most people - subconsciously - want to please the survey-taker.)

Anonymous Jack Amok May 18, 2016 12:22 PM  

But the story is what readers care about. Not the author.

Readers? Who cares what they want. These are fans we're talking about!

I prefer "La Raza Cosmica". My pronouns are The Shadow that Descends and Yes, I Will Cut Your Heart Out.

Must be an awesome casino. Do the VFM get free VIP cards?

Anonymous Jack Amok May 18, 2016 12:25 PM  

Blacks can be forgiven for believing they are taking over North America and believing they are always the wisest, most capable people in every mixed-race group.

After all, this is the image carried on the Tee Vee every second of every day


Seems like we should see some protests about this, akin to fat girls complaining that all the models they see on TV are too skinny and not realistic and it hurts their self esteem and creates unrealistic expectations...

Anonymous Northwest Watching Thing May 18, 2016 12:28 PM  

@14
Two words. Systemic racism. Your argument is invalid.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett May 18, 2016 12:29 PM  

@78 Hilarious, Nate! I didn't find more than a handful of broken marriages, but my Lord, all those atheists publicly admitting they're too stupid to choose a self-help book was well worth the time.e I spent looking.

Wonder how many of them are trufen?

Blogger Desillusionerad May 18, 2016 12:29 PM  

Anyone else caught this 'slight' tweaking of reality?
(The) Black community, ... People of color make up 37% of the US population.
The black community is not the same thing as the PoC community - The black community only 12%.
But you know, facts and figures, Why bother?

"And lack of editorial insight into sensitive historical and cultural issues can lead to harmful, ignorant books by white authors being published despite protest from Black communities."
Because black people, as a group, have this 'sameness' - But that is not at all saying all black people are the same...
It always makes my brain hurt with how fucking racist these people's 'logic' is.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast May 18, 2016 12:29 PM  

Signed with a comment calling for "full social justice" which includes "at least 60% of all authors, executives, and editors" to be respected people of color.

Anonymous Northwest Watching Thing May 18, 2016 12:30 PM  

Also, I thought scalzi was doughy, not scrawny. Or do I have the wrong overrated author?

Blogger Student in Blue May 18, 2016 12:40 PM  

Also, I thought scalzi was doughy, not scrawny. Or do I have the wrong overrated author?

Your reading comprehension is poor.

There's no "scrawny" anywhere on this page.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast May 18, 2016 12:42 PM  

Signed, with a note about "full social justice" will only occur when "at least 60% of all editors, executives, and authors" are "respected people of color." Screw 'em.

Blogger Gaiseric May 18, 2016 12:43 PM  

VD wrote:I prefer "La Raza Cosmica".
Phhthp!! You don't even pronounce it correctly; you pronounce like an Italian with a [ts] for the z!

Blogger Josh May 18, 2016 12:45 PM  

I prefer "La Raza Cosmica". My pronouns are The Shadow that Descends and Yes, I Will Cut Your Heart Out.

So brave! Thanks for this, (hugs)

Blogger tweell May 18, 2016 12:46 PM  

Signed, oh master of black knighting! Why are SJW controlled institutions such dens of racism and misogyny? Make them follow their own rules!

Anonymous 5343 May 18, 2016 12:49 PM  

Steve wrote:I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

My mother smacked me around the head with a Bible.


Were you showing her pictures of fat liberals with blue hair at the time?

Anonymous omar's running shoes May 18, 2016 12:54 PM  

That was one of the best posts on the Internet, ever.

It was like watching an obnoxious asshole finally get his lights punched out in front of a crowd by the littlest guy in the room.

Classic, really.

Anonymous Northwest Watching Thing May 18, 2016 12:55 PM  

@106 you are correct, shrimpy is what I saw, scrawny it's what my tired eyes reinterpreted it to. I suppose he can be doughy and shrimpy.

Anonymous old man in a villa May 18, 2016 12:57 PM  

"Treyvon and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day"

If you don't find that outrageously funny, you don't have a sense of humor.

Golf claps.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 18, 2016 1:04 PM  

If they really want a lot of votes, they need to find the Octomom

Blogger Salt May 18, 2016 1:05 PM  

Steve wrote:I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

My mother smacked me around the head with a Bible.



My sister once stuck a book down the back of her panties in middle school. She was in for a spanking and when he smacked her he hurt his hand.

Anonymous Chad May 18, 2016 1:08 PM  

Slightly OT, Ghostbusters released another trailer. It appears they're really trying to set a record for most money lost on a single film. Maybe they should've had a woman of color direct it.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 18, 2016 1:20 PM  

This reminds me of that time they put a homeless woman from Atlanta in charge of Marta

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 18, 2016 1:23 PM  

Wasn't Brad supposed to be our nice guy?

Blogger Were-Puppy May 18, 2016 1:23 PM  

@92 Bullitt315
Sorry to be dense but what's EPH stand for?
---
E. Plebnista Hugos

Anonymous Zion's Paladin May 18, 2016 1:37 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:Wasn't Brad supposed to be our nice guy?

There's a reason his rank in the ELoE is the Carebear with the Flamethrower.

Blogger Banjo May 18, 2016 1:43 PM  

Yoo-hoo (@WinstonWeb), I'll make you famous.

Two highly underrated movies, IMNSHO

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx May 18, 2016 2:05 PM  

UPDATE: And you thought I was kidding.

Dear Vox,

Thank you for taking action and adding your voice to the demand ... and the rest of the ColorOfChange team





Wow.



Blogger James Dixon May 18, 2016 2:23 PM  

> Surely the survey respondents must be exaggerating the number of books they read

I consider it unlikely, but one possible explanation is that the survey was actually about physical books and not ebooks.

Blogger Stilicho May 18, 2016 2:25 PM  

@ 72. Beat me to it, dammit. Folks, Nate has been buy-Glocktual for some time.

EPH = Estrogenated Patricia Haydenitis: a degenerative disease that causes the gonads to shrink, appearance of man-boobs, and, in extreme cases, psuedo-lactation. It is commonly associated with scalzification although the order of causation is uncertain and may be independent.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 18, 2016 2:26 PM  

Its even funnier since Vox actually is a person of color . And yeah Young Guns. You have good taste Banjo,

Blogger Ahazuerus May 18, 2016 2:31 PM  

"he hurt his hand"

You guys are making this too easy.

Anonymous Minion #0172 May 18, 2016 2:36 PM  

"You are correct, shrimpy is what I saw, scrawny it's what my tired eyes reinterpreted it to. I suppose he can be doughy and shrimpy"

Unfortunately, there is no single word to describe Scalzi as what he is, a weird combination of buffoon and worm.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 18, 2016 2:38 PM  

"With your help we can ensure that diversity is more than just a buzzword used by companies."

Can we?

Yes, we can!

We're going to carve it on your headstone...

Blogger JohnR219 May 18, 2016 2:49 PM  

Vox: You magnificent bastard....

Blogger Noah B May 18, 2016 3:04 PM  

Black people read more of every type of book.

Makes sense if you think about. Most of our inventions and technological marvels did come from white appropriation of black technology.

This is why Harvard needs to commit to being all-black by 2030.

Blogger James Dixon May 18, 2016 3:06 PM  

> Vox: You magnificent bastard....

Well, yes. But did you read his book(s)?

Blogger Salt May 18, 2016 3:09 PM  

Noah B wrote:Most of our inventions and technological marvels did come from white appropriation of black technology.

Yup.

Blogger Dave May 18, 2016 3:26 PM  

Wasn't Brad supposed to be our nice guy?


Brad might have turned over a new leaf: http://www.amazon.com/Redneck-Eldritch-Brad-R-Torgersen/dp/0692692916

Blogger wrf3 May 18, 2016 3:28 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:E. Plebnista Hugos

Thank you, Cloud William. Such remembrance!

Blogger Lovekraft May 18, 2016 3:36 PM  

Extortion racket. Is this what society has come down to? Who intimidates the best?

Blogger bob k. mando May 18, 2016 3:44 PM  

63. Nate May 18, 2016 11:02 AM
But I buy one Glock...



no, no.

it's, "you suck one Glock and they never let you live it down".

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean May 18, 2016 4:04 PM  

I'm not sure Meztizo is the correct nomenclature

This aggression will not stand, man.

Anonymous WinstonWebb May 18, 2016 4:05 PM  

Wasn't Brad supposed to be our nice guy?

Oh, but he is.
And that's what makes the enemy tremble so.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker May 18, 2016 4:17 PM  

@31: "Don't interrupt, but encourage the enemy when they proceed to destroy themselves."

Yup. Second Rule of Holes dictates that if you happen to see your enemy standing in a hole, give him a bigger shovel. Or an industrial-sized excavator, as the case may be.

Blogger Gaiseric May 18, 2016 4:23 PM  

OT, but I can't resist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilQ_31WquQ

Blogger James Dixon May 18, 2016 4:39 PM  

> Wasn't Brad supposed to be our nice guy?

From an early post by Vox (https://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/01/burning-down-house.html):

CORREIA: Dammit, Brad, put down-

TORGERSEN: AH HA HA HA HA HA!

CORREIA: The flamethrower....

Anonymous Athor Pel May 18, 2016 4:40 PM  

"63. Nate May 18, 2016 11:02 AM
...
But I buy one Glock..."



We are known by what we hate as much as by what we love.

Blogger John Wright May 18, 2016 4:58 PM  

@70
""can lead to harmful, ignorant books by white authors"

I loved this line. I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed."

Hmmm... let me see...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-7oSaqretg&

Anonymous JN May 18, 2016 5:10 PM  

@144 Don't click that link. It's a trick...

Blogger Alfred Genesson May 18, 2016 5:49 PM  

Signed. After all, how can we deny their stated need for diversity in SFF?

Blogger Herr Doktor Heaving Bosoms May 18, 2016 6:40 PM  

They don't reject @mailinator.com addresses.

Hint, hint.

Blogger Harsh May 18, 2016 6:47 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:Correction Nate, one Glock while having trashed Glock several times.

Wait, what? Nate doesn't like Glocks?

Blogger Harsh May 18, 2016 6:48 PM  

Bullitt315 wrote:Sorry to be dense but what's EPH stand for?

Eel Patrick Harris

Anonymous BGKB May 18, 2016 7:07 PM  

Ok I cant tell if any of this is serious or sarcasm.

did I tell you this hour how much I love and adore all gay people, for all time, everywhere? Because I, like, totally

Except for Milo, BigGayKoranBurner, and the members of Pink Pistols that can outbenchpress me.

College-educated Black women are the group most likely to read books in the U.S., and Black people read more of every type of book

This can't be real.

Nate, Can you comment on the rumor that you're selling all your guns, and buying Glocks in their place?

Obviously he wont sell his "wife's" glock for $200 more than he bought it for unless its to buy 2 glocks.

I loved this line. I've never been harmed by a book, nor ever known or known of anyone so harmed.

I tripped over one in the dark once.

For the same reason that many Americans now think queers are 33% of the population

Most live in gay ghettos within walking distance to gay bars/clubs & don't think anything exists between NYC and San Fran.

37% of the US population!? How did we all of a sudden go from 40-ish million to triple that in one year?

Latrina can squat out 21 crack babies on your tab.

it's, "you suck one Glock and they never let you live it down".

You can get courts to force bakers to make you a cake.

Anonymous Malwyn's appreciate May 18, 2016 7:56 PM  

SHRIMPY FAMOUS-ON-THE-INTERNET AUTHOR: ... Diversity means ensuring that a rainbow spectrum of ethnicities, genders, and sexualities

SRBI for the win!

Regarding CoC, three things come to mind.
1. Given how many black kids are killed for "acting white" (eg, studying), high literacy or preference for reading doesn't immediately come to mind.

2. Call me old-fashioned, but I always thought the quality of the story was more important than the color/ethnicity/sexuality of the writer. (Why is it that only whites took MLK's speech seriously?)

3. Any reason why black writers, who appear to be locked out of the publishing industry, can't self-publish these wonderful and deeply moving works of literature?

Maybe I'll sign the survey to help things along --- not sure when I'll be able to support such a worthy cause again ...

Blogger Dire Badger May 18, 2016 8:23 PM  

Isn't sabotage illegal?

Blogger weka May 18, 2016 8:41 PM  

Black Knight masterclass in session

Blogger weka May 18, 2016 8:43 PM  

Does mandingo dream of an electric goat

Blogger weka May 18, 2016 8:45 PM  

If your enemy makes an error help him. Besides, all the good stuff is at Bawn or Castalia or is independent.

Blogger weka May 18, 2016 8:50 PM  

PowerPoint for dummies did the most damage.

Blogger weka May 18, 2016 8:51 PM  

The English are glorious, piratical mutts. Which is why we got an empire.

Blogger SciVo May 18, 2016 9:54 PM  

@ Nate:

"I Kissed Dating Goodbye" prevented as many families from ever being formed.

Blogger SciVo May 18, 2016 10:06 PM  

@ borderwalker: Color me a little skeptical of the Pew poll.

The respondents may have been including BW/WM erotica ebooks of novelette length.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 18, 2016 10:28 PM  

Everybody knows Glocks are like potato chips.
Nobody can buy just one

Anonymous brentg May 18, 2016 11:02 PM  

POUNDED IN THE BUTT BY NATE'S 9MM GLOCK

Anonymous Jack Amok May 18, 2016 11:40 PM  

Why is it that only whites took MLK's speech seriously?

Because whites were the target audience.

The English are glorious, piratical mutts. Which is why we got an empire.

That and flags. Yes, yes, I know, but when even your cross-dressing freakshows are capable of this level of humor, you're onto something.

Blogger SciVo May 19, 2016 12:38 AM  

Incidentally, I just read the first four of the "Twenty-Sided Sorceress" series by Annie Bellet, which isn't as much as it sounds. I think novellas.

And the presumably-sympathetic POV character is a total psychopath. And her presumably-exciting boyfriend is a total sociopath.

The authoress seems to finally catch on in Book 3. (Yes, it was played straight in the first two.) But I'm not too worried about her mental health, even though "spot the personality disorder tell" is a fun game to play in her books.

Good authors can write bad characters. It's best if the character is aware of it, like John Ringo's "Paladin of Shadows" series, whose protagonist has the whole Dark Triad of pathologies and knows it.

But in Annie Bellet's case, I think it's just because she was writing as a gamer. Her protagonist is even a DM, a synonym for "player character" is "murder hobo." The morality of actually playing D&D is weird.

And I can respect how when she apparently realized what she'd done, she just ran with it. Her characters are nuts and she doesn't care.

Here's to you, Annie Bellet. May you never give any fucks.

Blogger EscapeVelocity May 19, 2016 3:38 AM  

Im with Nate. Not a big fan of Glocks.

Blogger EscapeVelocity May 19, 2016 3:39 AM  

Im with Nate. Not a big fan of Glocks.

Anonymous Spinrad's Agent May 19, 2016 4:23 AM  

Black Writers Matter.

Blogger Culture War Draftee May 19, 2016 3:51 PM  

Serious question for the cognoscenti, how do SIG-Sauers compare with Glocks? I'm not terribly concerned about price, except as it applies to life-cycle cost. Given the .40 S&W models, which weapon is best for accuracy, dependability, etc?

Blogger Tex May 23, 2016 8:53 AM  

SIGNED.

Tex
(because diversity and, like, stuff)

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