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Wednesday, May 04, 2016

Sexism at the Locus Awards

The SF SJWS are up in arms about sexism at the Locus Awards:
Renay, The Cabal ‎@renay
Surprise, welcome to Systemic Sexism, Locus Awards edition!!

Stephanie A. Allen ‏@stephandrea_
I guess I didn't get the memo that female YA writers don't write SFF

Martha Brockenbrough ‎@mbrockenbrough
Hey, if you read LOCUS, don't worry: women do actually write fantasy and science fiction, even if they didn't make any awards lists.

Martha Brockenbrough ‏@mbrockenbrough
To clarify my earlier tweet about LOCUS's finalists. No books by women made the list in the YA category. This defies belief.
 No wonder they're upset:

FANTASY NOVEL

    Karen Memory, Elizabeth Bear (Tor)
    The House of Shattered Wings, Aliette de Bodard (Roc; Gollancz)
    Wylding Hall, Elizabeth Hand (PS; Open Road)
    The Fifth Season, N.K. Jemisin (Orbit US; Orbit UK)
    Uprooted, Naomi Novik (Del Rey)

Wait, what? Oh, sorry, apparently this is the problem.

YOUNG ADULT BOOK

    Half a War, Joe Abercrombie (Del Rey; Harper Voyager UK)
    Half the World, Joe Abercrombie (Del Rey)
    Harrison Squared, Daryl Gregory (Tor)
    Shadowshaper, Daniel José Older (Levine)
    The Shepherd’s Crown, Terry Pratchett (Harper; Doubleday UK)

For feminists, "sexism" means that somewhere, somehow, a man still has something that a woman thinks she should have.
Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
 You're obviously forgetting that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman now. So much hate! You should be ashamed!

Martha Brockenbrough ‏@mbrockenbrough
Is this a joke? Because I am not getting it.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
I just think you're being very insensitive and hateful to Ms Abercrombie. Not all women have vaginas, you know.

Martha Brockenbrough ‏@mbrockenbrough
First I have heard that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman. If she does, that changes things. 
And to think they say SJWs are no fun!

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73 Comments:

Anonymous Spinrad's Agent May 04, 2016 7:55 AM  

Didn't these three harridans get the white privilage memo? They should have waited for Nora Jemisin to launch the attack.

Blogger Nate May 04, 2016 7:59 AM  

whores.

Blogger doug whiddon May 04, 2016 8:21 AM  

This is just Stupid. I read the list, there are female nominees in every single other category.

Blogger J A Baker May 04, 2016 8:22 AM  

Hey, if you read LOCUS, don't worry: transpecies do actually write fantasy and science fiction, even if they didn't make any awards lists.

Anonymous Determinator May 04, 2016 8:23 AM  

There must be multiple cabals within Del Rey fighting for supremacy. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Blogger Zaklog the Great May 04, 2016 8:35 AM  

If you take feminist rhetoric and switch out "women" and "men" for "Aryan" and "Jew", it is indistinguishable from Nazi propaganda.

Anonymous Huh May 04, 2016 8:36 AM  

Abercrombie writes YA fic? What I've read of him is mist unsuitable for YA. Last thing YAs need is amoral nihilism...

Anonymous Leonidas May 04, 2016 9:03 AM  

For feminists, "sexism" means that somewhere, somehow, a man still has something that a woman thinks she should have.

Which in this case simply means "something that a woman wants." Because for feminists, if a woman wants it she should have it QED.

Blogger Alexander May 04, 2016 9:09 AM  

This is just Stupid.

Yes, but that hasn't prevented western civilization from accepting it as true and critically injuring itself in the process.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 May 04, 2016 9:23 AM  

"...somewhere, somehow, a man still has something that a woman thinks she should have."
Freud said something about that!
Wasn't it the Fisherman's wife that "felt" SHE was entitled to the three wishes bestowed upon the fisherman for "catch and release" of the "magic" fish? THAT was in Aesop's day.
What is that term in Latin for "The more things change...."
What is that phrase in the original Latin for "If momma ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy!"
CaptDMO


Anonymous Magic Time Machine May 04, 2016 9:35 AM  

YOUNG ADULT CAVE PAINTINGS
Speared Buffalo, Ug Mog
Sabretooth and Hunter, Grag Bigtooth
Mammoth, Um Muk


Ooga Booga @kinkykavegurl ~30k years ago
Spent all day cave painting but you wouldn't know it by the awards ceremony.

Gruga @FireFeminist ~30k years ago
Hello! It's the Paleolithic Age. So disappointing.

Anonymous Eduardo just woke up May 04, 2016 9:48 AM  

Ohhhh these feminazi full-savages are so entertaining.

Wow can you imagine how weird that somebody would disqualify you or your work because dick! Way to go "ladies"...
Have the Awards started to virtue signal? Will the writers have to change sex?
Good thing that Miss fifty shades of asshole is nominated, goood! Maybe she will reveal her asshole flavor discovering techniques... Insane minds are inquiring.

Blogger Giraffe May 04, 2016 10:14 AM  

If those men would identify as women for the purposes of these awards the problem is solved.

Blogger JCclimber May 04, 2016 10:25 AM  

I bet $50 that every single of one of them is completely oblivious to the fact that all nominees for Fantasy are women and that this is extremely sexist exclusion of some great male fantasy writers.

Blogger tweell May 04, 2016 11:04 AM  

We need Dr. Chuck Tingle to apply some HARD LOVE to the Locus awards!

Anonymous BGKB May 04, 2016 11:19 AM  

Has the YA novels where a young girls biggest choice in life is bestiality or necrophilia finally played out?

For feminists, "sexism" means that somewhere, somehow, a man still has something that a woman thinks she should have

Is there anyway we can trick them into thinking responsibility they should possess?

Blogger Giraffe May 04, 2016 11:24 AM  

@voxday First I have heard that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman. If she does, that changes things. I'm getting a whiff of troll.

Ah, the sweet scent of confusion.

Blogger maniacprovost May 04, 2016 11:32 AM  

Has the YA novels where a young girls biggest choice in life is bestiality or necrophilia finally played out?

Never.

YOUNG ADULT BOOK

Half a War, Joe Abercrombie (Del Rey; Harper Voyager UK)
Half the World, Joe Abercrombie (Del Rey)
Harrison Squared, Daryl Gregory (Tor)
Shadowshaper, Daniel José Older (Levine)
The Shepherd’s Crown, Terry Pratchett (Harper; Doubleday UK)


Crazy. I wonder how that happened?

Anonymous Jack Amok May 04, 2016 11:32 AM  

If she does, that changes things.

I think Martha just blue-screened.

Blogger Krul May 04, 2016 11:44 AM  

"Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
You're obviously forgetting that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman now."


Can't decide whether to lol or bravo

Anonymous basementhomebrewer May 04, 2016 11:46 AM  

Perfect example of demonstrating absurdity by being absurd.

Blogger The Other Robot May 04, 2016 11:51 AM  

So, all any male author needs to say is:

When I write a book I identify as a woman

Anonymous rubberducky May 04, 2016 11:55 AM  

"That changes things." HAHAHA. Busted raw.

Blogger Arcane Rhino May 04, 2016 12:02 PM  

"First I have heard that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman. If she does, that changes things. "

Oh, baby. This thread is a keeper. Game. Set. Match.

Anonymous Fran May 04, 2016 12:08 PM  

How do they not see the irony?

Anonymous Michael Maier May 04, 2016 12:10 PM  

I can't keep up. DOES Abercrombie ID as a broad now?

I am so hoping Vox made that up but you never know in this post-parody world.

Blogger The Other Robot May 04, 2016 12:16 PM  

From the Wiki entry for Joe Abercrombie:

In 2011, Abercrombie signed a deal with Gollancz for 4 more books set in the First Law world.[4] In 2013, HarperCollins' fantasy and children's imprints announced that they had acquired the rights to three books by Abercrombie, aimed at younger readers. The three standalone but interconnected novels form a "classic coming-of-age tale", with the first volume, Half a King, published in summer 2014 (The Shattered Sea Trilogy).[5]

In 2013, Joe declared that he has always felt like a woman.


(I might have modified that a bit.)

Blogger Tom K. May 04, 2016 12:19 PM  

"Not all women have vaginas!"

My newest meme!

Blogger Tom K. May 04, 2016 12:22 PM  

"Not all women have vaginas!"

My newest meme!

Blogger SouthRon May 04, 2016 12:35 PM  

Accompanied by:

Not all vaginas are women.

Blogger SouthRon May 04, 2016 12:36 PM  

Accompanied by:

Not all vaginas are women.

Anonymous Pax_Romana May 04, 2016 12:36 PM  

@28 Aye, but should the meme include a picture of Joe Abercrombie, or Scalzi...Decisions, decisions.

Blogger tublecane May 04, 2016 12:43 PM  

@28-That's not new. I'm not sure if this was the first instance, but a couple years ago there was a hilarious and nonsensical kerfuffle over an abortion fundraiser titled "A Night of a Thousand Vaginas." Feminists got a taste of their own medicine when the trannies went after them for "cissexism" and "bioessentialism." They were castigated for reducing femininity to genitalia, and reminded that not all women have vaginas.

The controversy seemed misplaced to me, considering so far as I know "female" transsexuals can't have abortions. But there I go, with biology and logic. It was a womany thing, and from now on man-women must be included at all costs.

Blogger tublecane May 04, 2016 12:45 PM  

If there is "systemic sexism" does that mean different categories are part of different systems? Or do they use that term like I hiccup?

Blogger ray May 04, 2016 12:50 PM  

"First I have heard that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman. If she does, that changes things."


... because in that case, you see, she's become part of The Team. And will be expected thenceforth to support The Team.

It hasn't been about who's the best writer for forty years. It's all about . . . Identity, that beloved and sanctified ruling Goddess of the Age.

No awards for female writers. No publishing of female writers. Female writer submissions not accepted. Submissions from male writers identifying as females, not accepted with extreme prejudice.

Why? See Martha Logic, supra. There are a zillion Martha clonelings and they will co-opt and destroy anything and everything good, if allowed. They'll co-opt and destroy you even faster if you fete and fund them! Suit yourselves.

Blogger Loyd Jenkins May 04, 2016 12:59 PM  

"I am a wanna-be trouble maker. Her me shriek."

Blogger Calvin Dodge May 04, 2016 1:13 PM  

And every Locus fantasy nominee is female. Waiting for the outrage ...

Blogger Were-Puppy May 04, 2016 1:21 PM  

Making Locus Great Again would entail changing the award into the form of an HP Lovecraft bust.

Blogger Krul May 04, 2016 1:24 PM  

"The Locus Awards are an annual set of literary awards by the science fiction and fantasy magazine Locus, a monthly based in Oakland, California. The award winners are selected by poll of magazine readers."

I guess the readers of Locus are sexist.

Blogger CM May 04, 2016 1:29 PM  

The controversy seemed misplaced to me, considering so far as I know "female" transsexuals can't have abortions. But there I go, with biology and logic. It was a womany thing, and from now on man-women must be included at all costs.

How long before Tampax buys out the transpon and starts marketing to The Its?

That feminist speaker that was banned with Milo... I really want to hear her take on the appropriation of female culture by males caricaturing women.

Blogger Chris Lopes May 04, 2016 1:43 PM  

This is just too perfect for words. For the perpetually angry, there is no such thing as enough.

Anonymous Nathan May 04, 2016 1:52 PM  

So, what was the Puppy score on Locus? 33-50%?

OpenID denektenorsk May 04, 2016 2:36 PM  

These midwits substitutes equality of outcome for equal opportunity. They are the type of people that think what Justin Trudeau did with the Canadian Federal Cabinet is a good thing, because current year. It has been quickly demonstrated that his pick for Labour Minister is a CLUELESS IDIOT. She has the right plumbing however, so there's that.

Since 50% of the population is men and 50% is women everything must be 50%. That category has no women, therefore horrible sexism.

They don't delve any deeper. Are ScFi writers equally split by sex or are there more men? I expect that there are more men given general interest and therefore proportionally there should be more men winning awards. Sexism.

Where are the gay writers, the lesbian writers, the Muslim writers, the Atheist writers, the Trap writers, the Vegan writers? They are all a part of US society, why are they not being nominated? Sexism/bigotry.

They don't care to judge work on merit. They also can't take into account that if you don't have a Female Black Trap Gay Vegan writing then can't get an award, now can they?

Blogger maniacprovost May 04, 2016 2:45 PM  

So, what was the Puppy score on Locus?

I don't recall the Puppies becoming publicly involved in the Locus awards, but I may be mistaken.

Anonymous ftumch May 04, 2016 3:14 PM  

Krul wrote:"The Locus Awards are an annual set of literary awards by the science fiction and fantasy magazine Locus, a monthly based in Oakland, California. The award winners are selected by poll of magazine readers."

I guess the readers of Locus are sexist.



From the wiki page:
"The awards were inaugurated in 1971 for publication year 1970 and the original purpose was to influence the Hugo Awards.[1]"

The cited page gives a 404. From the archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120424042305/http://www.locusmag.com/SFAwards/Db/Locus.html

"The Locus Awards are presented to winners of Locus Magazine's annual readers' poll, which was established in the early '70s specifically to provide recommendations and suggestions to Hugo Awards voters."

Anonymous ftumch May 04, 2016 3:16 PM  

Apologies, meant to add:

It's ok when they do it.

Blogger bob k. mando May 04, 2016 3:40 PM  

new Star Wars book, written by a woman, is GREAT! because, as reviewed by a woman ... it seems to be all about gossip ( scandalous! ) and romance.

http://www.starwars.com/news/8-reasons-star-wars-bloodline-will-be-essential-reading


women. ruin. everything.

Blogger Owen May 04, 2016 3:56 PM  

Hilarious Vox!

Anonymous Smile Of The Shadow May 04, 2016 4:29 PM  

The media class still doesn't get it, still act dumbfounded, still smirk in tone at the "stupid" voters.

Crooked Hillary hasn't got a chance.

Anonymous BGKB May 04, 2016 5:21 PM  

"Not all women have vaginas!" My newest meme!

If a women gets a hysterectomy while in the military(many do for fibroids) they will get 50% service connected disability. A man losing both his testes will only get 10%, for 50% he would have to lose his non dominant arm or bilateral below the knee amputation.

Brown vaginas are 75% off if you pick up down by the home depot.

Anonymous BGKB May 04, 2016 5:29 PM  

"Not all women have vaginas!" My newest meme!

Does anyone know if Planned Parenthood was selling baby vaginas like they did with bags of dicks?

Blogger J Van Stry May 04, 2016 5:58 PM  

Thank you Vox for making me laugh out loud.
I needed that.

Blogger doug whiddon May 04, 2016 6:43 PM  

tublecane,

A recent production of The Vagina Monologues was recently canceled as not inclusive of women who don't have vaginas.

Blogger The Other Robot May 04, 2016 6:44 PM  

I was alerted to the fact that Chuck Tingle is now a Sex Advice columnist for Death and Taxes, which some would call some sort of trashy on-line magazine, but this interview with Chuck.

Blogger ray May 04, 2016 6:46 PM  

"Does anyone know if Planned Parenthood was selling baby vaginas like they did with bags of dicks?"


Dunno. I know that Oprah and her Emily's List pals were buying and selling severed infant foreskins. To rub on themselves to re-capture their 'youth'. So, you know, they will appear more attractive.

Either they rule you, or you rule them. Ain't no in-between, ain't no compromise, and there sure ain't no Equality.

Blogger The Other Robot May 04, 2016 8:11 PM  

Hey, I just found the Tingle Title Generator

Anonymous Shut up rabbit May 04, 2016 8:32 PM  

Where are the ... [m]uslim writers,

he he, a literate muslim. Top kek, as they say.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx May 04, 2016 9:22 PM  

Chris Lopes wrote:This is just too perfect for words.


Yeah. So are the Hugos. And Trump. And Tingle. And other stuff too. It's like the pointers on some sort of invisible Antikythera ratchet-gear thing have clicked over to an unknown constellation called Tyger.

Blogger 1337kestrel May 04, 2016 9:59 PM  

unknown constellation called Tyger

Could it be... is this the Year of the Puppy?

Blogger L. Jagi Lamplighter Wright May 04, 2016 11:43 PM  

It is so sad what has happened to women.

We used to be womb-men...the subset of mankind that had a womb and could bear future generations.

But nobody cares about the womb anymore. All they want to talk about is the passage leading to the womb that provides a sense of titillation.

And this is an important distinction, because...currently at least...surgery and hormones might be able to grant you the second one, but it still can't give you the first.

Blogger CM May 05, 2016 12:37 AM  

I agree, Jagi!

Blogger bob k. mando May 05, 2016 1:19 AM  

60. L. Jagi Lamplighter Wright May 04, 2016 11:43 PM
We used to be womb-men...the subset of mankind that had a womb



sorry, no.

it's a nice story ... with the fatal flaw of not being true.

the truth is that in Old English, the term "man" truly was gender neutral.

male men were designated by the prefix "were-" ( derived from Latin "vir-" ) .... that's why we call werewolves werewolves instead of manwolves.

the "wo-" prefix is derived from OE "wif-", the source of wife.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/woman?s=t


yes, it's true. if Feminists had any functioning brain cells OR historical knowledge, they would be demanding the rehabilitation of the "were-" prefix and the return of "man" to it's originally sex neutral status.

Blogger D. G. D. Davidson May 05, 2016 1:27 AM  

Apparently, Vox Day has been incorporated into the Tingle mythos as the nefarious Voxman, creator of The Matrix and collaborator in the devilman agenda: https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/727969988745666560

Blogger Shimshon May 05, 2016 1:29 AM  

Vox, masterful rhetoric. In two statements and not many more words, you completely mock and demolish Martha.

Blogger Korodzik May 05, 2016 4:09 AM  

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Blogger Basta Con La Droga May 05, 2016 4:27 AM  

"Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
You're obviously forgetting that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman now. So much hate! You should be ashamed!

Martha Brockenbrough ‏@mbrockenbrough
Is this a joke? Because I am not getting it.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
I just think you're being very insensitive and hateful to Ms Abercrombie. Not all women have vaginas, you know.

Martha Brockenbrough ‏@mbrockenbrough
First I have heard that Joe Abercrombie identifies as a woman. If she does, that changes things."

Fucking priceless.

Anonymous JudgeDeadd May 05, 2016 4:30 AM  

Fun fact: out of the 35 works nominated, 21 (60%) in total were written by women. Holy shit, they're REALLY reaching to find something, ANYTHING, to get offended by.

By the way -- the idea that a male-to-female transsexual (guys who think they're girls) is considered by certain 'progressive' feminists a "woman" is something absolutely, utterly nonsensical. I'm not sure how people who -- presumably -- are capable of breathing without cue cards, can even entertain the idea. What the hell does a mustachioed, neckbearded guy with a pot-belly have to do with feminism's goals? He's not oppressed, he's not a target of sexism, because he LOOKS like a guy, and unless the evil sexist company managers and policemen have a magical gender identity sight, he's not at all subject to the (real or imaginary) harships that actual, real women experience. He doesn't have a womb or any female physiology at all, so issues such as maternity leaves, abortion, etc. don't apply to him at all.

A man in a leadership position is offensive to them... until one day he says "Hey, I just realized I'm a girl." THEN instantly he becomes an inspiring, wonderful example of what generations of suffragettes and feminists have achieved for women. (Until one day he says that he actually feels more like a guy, at which point he's back to being The Evil.) I just can't comprehend how can ANYONE smarter than a retarded amoeba think like this.

Sorry for being rambling, I'm in a bit of a hurry.

Blogger The Kurgan May 05, 2016 4:31 AM  

Nate,
Please stop offending all the whores by comparing SJW landwhales with whores. Whores have a million times more human dignity, savoir faire, femininity, and capacity for being good housewife material than SJWs

Blogger Ron May 05, 2016 10:18 AM  

@The Kurgan

Disagree, their effectiveness as housewives is irrelevent. Anyone can play baseball, but if you dont practice and invest time into learning you wont be much good at it. Both a whore and feminist landwhale invest their time in things other than being a mans wife, hence it stands to reason that they both probably suck equally ar it.

What is accurate is to say that whores can command a high price for sex, while landwhales have to pay.

Blogger Ron May 05, 2016 10:25 AM  

@Judgedredd

They are only happy when a high value male does this. Thats because he is effectively saying at he is on Team Woman. Its like signing on a popular artist to a shitty label.

It raises the status of the label.

However if some random loser tries that then I expect he'll be tolerated provoded he toes the line and gets out of the way. He does have a penis and can make good cannon fodder so that is something, and might be useful as virtue signalling, but past that unless he has some sociopathic quakities which can be leverraged into the never ending Game of Pecking Order that women have going, then hes nothing but a nuisance.

Anonymous Fran May 05, 2016 4:59 PM  

@69
That may be true but at least the whore will give you better sex.

Blogger L. Jagi Lamplighter Wright May 05, 2016 6:57 PM  

62. Bob

Lol sorry...I was being poetic. I didn't mean linguistical

Anonymous Sagramore May 06, 2016 2:44 PM  

@43 If you think cabinet and not Mark Carney and other City types are in charge you're kidding yourself. Canada is a company like The Bay or Tim Hortons.

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