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Saturday, May 07, 2016

The case for separation

Fred Reed asks Black Lives Matter if they prefer integration and being subject to the white man's laws or separation and freedom to live as they see fit?
In reading the endless complaints by blacks about shootings by the police, I usually find it hard to know what really happened. As far as I am aware, the media never allow an unedited interview, or any interview, with the police charged with the shootings but allow endless commentary by people who weren’t there.

I am also often puzzled by the motivation of the cops. Do they confer in the morning and say, “Hey, let’s shoot some totally innocent black guy in front of witnesses who probably have cell phones?” And why are cops not brutalizing Latinos, only blacks, especially in LA, which provides a target-rich environment?

If I could, I would speak to BLM as follows:

I cannot determine what you want. There seems to be a great deal of anger but little clarity. Discussion usually wanders off into demands for justice, but without specifics.

Since I am looking for practical recommendations, let us begin by acknowledging the circumstances we face. You say that white cops mistreat blacks, sometimes brutally. This is true. I have seen some of it, and know of more. White cops seldom like blacks, nor blacks, white cops. The cultures are irreconcilably different. On the other hand, beatings of whites, Latinos, and Asians by gangs of blacks are far outnumber beatings of blacks by white cops. In sum, no love is lost and I do not see a lot of moral high ground. So:

Do you want white policemen excluded from black neighborhoods?

The available answers are “yes,” and “no.” I do not mean to be abrupt about this, but vague considerations of abstract justice, alleged discrimination, and racism do not provide usable answers. So, do you want white cops pulled from black neighborhoods, or not? It’s one or the other.

Personally I think it wiser not to have whites policing blacks. I don’t want to see white cops raped in media circuses. Nor do I want blacks to be mistreated by white cops. It seems to me that BLM should support segregation of police as it would eliminate any possibility of racist behavior.
Speaking as a historically aware Red Segregationist, the eventual and ultimate solution will be segregation, war, and ethnic cleansing. The homogenous nations have always come out of heterogeneous nations, they are not the result of geography. The great sin of apartheid was not that it separated South Africa's blacks and whites, but rather, that it kept them together in an immoral manner that permitted South Africa's whites to economically prey upon South Africa's blacks.

And if you say that you oppose segregation, then I ask you this: do you seriously support stealing more American Indian land by eliminating our reservations? Or is it merely a matter of moral posturing rather than principle?

DNA is destiny. Even those of us who are of mixed race are ultimately forced by everyone else into one tribe or another; look at those who deny science, heritage, and family alike by declaring that I am, regardless of my self-identification, a "white" - whatever that might be; precisely what nation is that? - by virtue of nothing more than my physical appearance.

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Anonymous Eric the Red May 07, 2016 8:25 AM  

It is but to laugh...
The ultimate result of the Civil Rights movement will be totally segregated safe spaces for blacks, where they no longer have to put up with YT, but they can still appropriate his cultural goodies and get freebies from the State.

I'll suggest it again: an Executive Order that blacks with federal jobs and blacks getting various forms of federal welfare should all move to one state (e.g. Michigan) if they want to keep their jobs or their freebies (same thing). Give them one year to make the transition, and supply moving companies with federal money.

BLM is more like Black Shakedowns Forever, and I'm sick of it and them and their excuses and blaming YT for their own failures and low IQ and high crime rates and all the damn rest of it.

Blogger JDC May 07, 2016 8:31 AM  

Michigan declined your request and graciously offers Alabama or New Jersey as suitable replacements.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 May 07, 2016 8:33 AM  

HEY! I know....Liberia!
Yeah! THAT'S the ticket!
CaptDMO

Anonymous Drose May 07, 2016 8:36 AM  

Michigan! With access to 4 of 5 Great Lakes? OH HELL NO! They can have Illinois- the land of their Lord and Savior Abe Lincoln!

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 May 07, 2016 8:36 AM  

Wait. How far is Liberia from Israel?
CaptDMO

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 07, 2016 8:42 AM  

Fred just outdated decades of conservative "thought."

Good

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 07, 2016 8:48 AM  

In Game terms this could be called a huge shit test.

I like to flip the script and ask such non-conservative questions, "What have you done for me?"

Anonymous Barnabas May 07, 2016 8:51 AM  

"The great sin of apartheid was not that it separated South Africa's blacks and whites, but rather, that it kept them together in an immoral manner that permitted South Africa's whites to economically prey upon South Africa's blacks."
Why would they travel into white cities to be preyed upon? People who seek out jobs in white societies over subsistence farming or whatever employment their own primitive economies allow are not being preyed upon. This is the same logic that designates migrant to the US as victims on arrival.

Blogger praetorian May 07, 2016 8:52 AM  

South Africa's whites to economically prey upon South Africa's blacks.

Can you expand on that? My understanding (admittedly with little reading on the matter) is that the relationship was one of exclusion rather than exploitation. White labor forcing white capital to hire whites.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Apartheid.html

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean May 07, 2016 9:00 AM  

Segregation is good.

Blogger Nick S May 07, 2016 9:05 AM  

Would never work because seperate but equal cake eater's lawn envy.

Anonymous SingSling May 07, 2016 9:11 AM  

@VD. You hit this one out of the park. Powerful words

Blogger Orville May 07, 2016 9:12 AM  

Sadly, I see no non-violent solution. Glad I'm not tied down by a mortgage.

Blogger VD May 07, 2016 9:23 AM  

My understanding (admittedly with little reading on the matter) is that the relationship was one of exclusion rather than exploitation.

You're completely wrong.

Anonymous Steveaz May 07, 2016 9:25 AM  

Praetorian,folks are unaware that SA's "apartheid" was the result of two human tendencies. One was migration as millions of blacks migrated to participate in SA's 1970 economic boom. The other was self segregation as humans naturally prefer to live amongst others who look like them. The legal framework reached as the state reacted to the mass migration to S.A. is derided as "apartheid."

BTW migration in America's southwest is similarly driven by economics and its enablers hope to capitalize on it politically just as the ANC and others did.

Blogger dienw May 07, 2016 9:37 AM  

And if you say that you oppose segregation, then I ask you this: do you seriously support stealing more American Indian land by eliminating our reservations? Or is it merely a matter of moral posturing rather than principle?


My understanding from reading about the Lavoy Finnicum murder was that he was trying to prevent the theft of the uranium under the Paiute tribal land. He was also, IIRC, trying to have stolen artifacts returned to them. My source was Lame Cherry on this.

Blogger tz May 07, 2016 9:38 AM  

There are very few police here and their job is mostly boring. If they disappeared tomorrow we'd have to make our own reports for accidents. It was the main reason I moved here.

Reading Fred, I see by the very questions the culture shock.

Cargo culture shock. They want the cargo only produced by high-trust, long time preference, but not change their culture or virtue. DNA might deal them a bad hand, but human beings can bluff. Simply think a moment. So they build totem towers.

Both liberals and libertarians don't realize the experiments in law will fail. The 55 page iPhone ToS isn't read, and at some point Tim will be Cooked because law and force are the opposite of trust. The libertarians too design elaborate replacements - DROs, arbitration, etc. not realizing in a trust/posterity/K society they aren't needed, and in a suspicion/me-now/r society they won't work.

Fred has this right for the BLM bunnies, the r-rabbits.

The more interesting thing is the K-selected Bundy Ranchers and their supporters are asking the exact same questions about policing (the other BLM) and ownership.

Blogger dienw May 07, 2016 9:40 AM  

JDC wrote:Michigan declined your request and graciously offers Alabama or New Jersey as suitable replacements.

AS a migrant from New Jersey to North Carolina, let me say that NJ is making excellent progress in creating a safe habitat for illegal aliens (Mexicans) and Moslems; Blacks are not needed -- neither are Whites.

Blogger tz May 07, 2016 9:42 AM  

Reservations? No, each should declare a small section to be a Galt's gulch, invite men of mind into these brainistans and declare independence from more than just gaming laws.

Blogger praetorian May 07, 2016 9:48 AM  

You're completely wrong

Yes, I see that as a likely possibility. Can you expand on how so or point me to a good source to get started on?

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2016 9:52 AM  

It's obvious to anyone that looks that the pressure towards re-segregation is growing exponentially. This seems to be especially among the current crop of college students, who will be the ones influencing public policy in another 30 years.

And as for moving folks, the obviously place is New York City.

Blogger VD May 07, 2016 9:52 AM  

Yes, I see that as a likely possibility. Can you expand on how so or point me to a good source to get started on?

Read Ilana Mercer. Read books by white South Africans who lived under apartheid. It was a remarkably stupid system in which whites tried to have it both ways, neither fish nor fowl.

Blogger tz May 07, 2016 9:57 AM  

The summary question is an old one, do they want to be judged on the content of their character? DNA doesn't explain evil. The devil lacks DNA. Christ's blood - with DNA? (adds new force to Transubstantiation) saves.

But unless we are atheists, we should stop talking as if there is no soul or spirit. DNA contributes to destiny, but one has to form their conscience. It doesn't take high intelligence to choose the good, it takes willpower. And that can be trained, exercised. Especially when the examples around provide the models of virtue instead of vice.

Blogger Salt May 07, 2016 10:01 AM  

praetorian wrote:My understanding (admittedly with little reading on the matter) is that the relationship was one of exclusion rather than exploitation.

The Romans exploited the Britons. That's a cost of, would it be fair to say, Vox, the road to civilization? With exclusion the Britons would not have gotten the benefit that exploitation provided. Brings us to SA. How have the blacks done since taking over? There are indications many of them were admittedly better off being exploited.

Blogger Rusty Fife May 07, 2016 10:04 AM  

tz wrote:It doesn't take high intelligence to choose the good, it takes willpower.

Wrong. We are all depraved; just in different ways. Viva La Differance!

The ways we are bent are largely to somewhat determined by genetics.

Why do you hate black people so much that you want them to act white? Isn't that their main complaint, even against each other?

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 10:18 AM  

Make Illinois the Black Homeland in North America? I suppose..., walls would only be necessary for half the border once you drop the bridges over the major rivers.

It would finally give me the impetus to leave this shithole, run-by-Chicago cesspool.

Anonymous Hoyos May 07, 2016 10:23 AM  

Huge numbers of African blacks immigrated to South Africa to be "exploited". I do take the point though, and I'm not defending apartheid.

In my opinion, the biggest crime of Apartheid is that it made no distinction between a European language speaking, educated, law abiding, possibly Christian even Calvinist, gentleman of African descent and a Muti worshipping, Marxist guerrilla, low IQ barbarian. It's like seeing no distinction between a German monk working as a scholar and a rape and pillage Viking.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 07, 2016 10:29 AM  

A Christian would be strongly supported by scripture in saying you have it the wrong way round;

People lose intelligence because they do evil, not people do evil because they're low intelligence.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 10:31 AM  

1. Black cops would resign en masses if forced to take duty exclusively in predominantly black areas. Duh!

2. This modern era's fabulous wealth is an exclusive product of Western Civilization, itself a product EXCLUSIVELY of people whose ancestors came from Europe & the UK (inside the Hajnal Line.)

Everyone else wants the goodies but no one else has ever, in thousands of years, produced anything remotely similar.

DNA is cultural & civilizational destiny, too. BLM and all other movements are nothing but con jobs meant to brainwash the Golden Geese into handing their eggs to the crows, the buzzards and the rats.

The current trajectory goes too far even for the parasites. They threaten to destroy the very makers of the gibsmedats on which they thrive.

Post-Apartheid SA can't even keep the lights on.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 10:36 AM  

So babies born with the MAO-A gene sequence (5% of black males, 0.1% of whites in America) must have more Original Sin, huh? Given that this gene sequence expresses as high violence, high impulsiveness that correlate extremely well with violent criminality.

DNA is hardware code for humans. People are born as they are, and have but a narrow spectrum of choice in their lives.

Blogger VD May 07, 2016 10:40 AM  

In my opinion, the biggest crime of Apartheid is that it made no distinction between a European language speaking, educated, law abiding, possibly Christian even Calvinist, gentleman of African descent and a Muti worshipping, Marxist guerrilla, low IQ barbarian.

You're wrong. That idiocy is pure cuckservatism. The former is often the father of the latter.

The crime was greed. The problem is that the South African whites were too greedy to follow through on full separation, they wanted the cheap black labor, and they lost the moral high ground as a result.

It's the same problem that the USA faces, and that Germany faces. Pick your own damn cotton, clean up your own damn streets, and work your own damn mines. Or, eventually, you'll lose your nation.

Blogger Rusty Fife May 07, 2016 10:45 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:1. Black cops would resign en masses if forced to take duty exclusively in predominantly black areas.

The hiring standards would change so that they could find enough applicants. Given the overly high incarceration rate under white rules; they would probably have to allow ex-convicts to serve.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 10:51 AM  

Three roads ahead:
1. Separate & let each population go its own way, accepting that low IQ, low civilization people will revert to limits defined by Malthus.

2. Do the same as #1, but whites step in, prevent mass starvation but do so like zookeepers, managing reproduction too.

3. Separate or don't, reproductive realites manifest and eventually a war of all against all emerges, sending mankind into decivilization for a thousand years.

Some humans are succeeding far better than others. This is an unstable condition that will be resolved one way or another, and pretending it doesn't matter requires belief in Fukayama's end of history idiocy.

Tens of thousands of years ago there were several distinct populations of Man in Europe. One appears to have won out, and the others leave but a few snippets of their DNA in our genome.

Nothing living (or made of living things) is static.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 07, 2016 10:52 AM  

I oppose segregation on the grounds that I just can't quit you, Vox. Besides, I need you to make me the epic fantasy novels that are beneath my station to write on my own.

My dirt may not be magic, but I've got enough of it that it just might accommodate one good Indian. What could possibly go wrong?

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 10:54 AM  

@ Rusty, yes, they'd get cops. Policing would look identical to that in Jamaica, which has about the highest murder rate in the world.

But we all know this is where they're headed in black-run enclaves.

Anonymous VFM #7916 May 07, 2016 10:58 AM  

@27

That is not in any way a christian idea. I'd classify it as Churchian, thus not worth repeating.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 10:58 AM  

It's the same problem that the USA faces, and that Germany faces. Pick your own damn cotton, clean up your own damn streets, and work your own damn mines. Or, eventually, you'll lose your nation.

True, but the concentrated benefit / diffuse costs of modern "politicians-for-sale" democracy insures that those who profit greatly from importing the Wogs will get their way until it may already b

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 11:01 AM  

...be too late.

Opposition to the US Chamber of Commerce's love of open immigration only now is coalescing around Trump, 50 years and 50,000,000 Wogs too late. It's going to be hell to turn the tide.

Anonymous Eric the Red May 07, 2016 11:01 AM  

It doesn't matter whether they were born here or not, blacks treat Western Civilization like some foreign country. They appropriate the goodies, but refuse to learn the language or the culture. The result is inevitably failure, at which point blacks turn around and blame the locals instead.

Anonymous Gen. Kong May 07, 2016 11:06 AM  

praetorian:
Can you expand on that? My understanding (admittedly with little reading on the matter) is that the relationship was one of exclusion rather than exploitation. White labor forcing white capital to hire whites.

I think Vox basically got it here, though Steveaz brought up a good point as well. The problem is indeed greed on the part of SA whites - even today. Boers are being systematically exterminated by negroes - who are both 'Christian' and Marxist - and have been for two decades now. Even so, most continue to hire negro farm workers (who inevitably kill them and their families in the most brutal methods imaginable) in preference to the many unemployed whites because it's cheaper. They're not even forced to hire blacks by law.

It's the Boers who are the Calvinists, by and large. Their own churches are so thoroughly SJW-converged that there's been no outcry about the genocide - much less any call for armed resistance to the ANC regime even in the face of open calls for their extermination and actions to carry it out. SA whites are accepting their train ride to eternity with even greater docility than the Jews of Poland did - at least they were able to pull off a Warsaw ghetto uprising. They continue to serve as police-goondas and paid mercenaries for the ANC extermination regime - which is really owned by folks who aren't negroes living in places like London.

Blogger YIH May 07, 2016 11:11 AM  

tz:
The summary question is an old one, do they want to be judged on the content of their character?
MLK's paradox. You can't judge them by the content of their character, because if you do, other than to praise them ('racist' non-Africans) ''are judging them by the color of their skin''.
See all the ''Travon was hunted down and murdered'' crap from the cuckservatives and SJWs.
As Detroit has amply proven, when a 'blacks only' region is created, it will become just like Haiti or any sub-Saharan African country - even with the White admixture. And of course coalburners will have to be exiled to Dinduland as well. Granted, they won't last too long there, but their fates will serve as a warning to other potential mudsharks: ''Once you go black, we don't you back''.

Blogger Ahazuerus May 07, 2016 11:26 AM  

dc.sunsets

There's a number of axioms we don't share so disparate conclusions are inevitable.

Whichever it is, though, we agree that mixing cultures is destructive of one or both the ingredients.

Or, as a wiser man than I once said:

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

Just an older way of saying; There will be war.

Blogger Nick S May 07, 2016 11:27 AM  

Everybody wants to be able to discriminate. Not everybody wants the other guys to have the same ability. This is the cake eater's paradox leftists are unable to wriggle out of. You can't cry race and gender are just social constructs then complain about straight white males ruining everything.

Blogger Sherwood family May 07, 2016 11:28 AM  

It is interesting that it is greed that you blame, VD. It reminds me of the view of General Grant who believed that the Civil War was a divine punishment for the wickedness of fighting to annex parts of Mexico in the 1840s for the sake of territory.

Anonymous vfm #0202 May 07, 2016 11:35 AM  

"My dirt may not be magic, but I've got enough of it that it just might accommodate one good Indian. What could possibly go wrong?"

But what if our Supreme Dark Lordc is motivated not by implausibly saintly concern for our posterity but rather by simple genocidal revenge? Best served cold...

We've all been played at least once. We didn't notice the first time, either. Muahahaha!

Anonymous Clay May 07, 2016 11:48 AM  

Well. This turned out to be a rather "odd" comment thread.

But, yes. We should have picked our own damn cotton, and quit buying slaves from the Yankees.

Blogger Timmy3 May 07, 2016 11:54 AM  

And harvest our own farms in California. Bring in foreign workers while also exporting factories is madness.

Blogger Verne May 07, 2016 12:12 PM  

As the old saying goes. If we had known then what we know now. We would have picked our own damn cotton.

But we have learned almost nothing since then. We still want a good cheap poverty level working class to do our hard work. We still want a slave class, but now we do not even want to treat them like valuable property. The cheap workers hate us, as much as the slaves did. They will replace us with our help. Greed is the root of all evil

Anonymous Marty May 07, 2016 12:15 PM  

And the answer is - blacks want it both ways at once. You can try this for yourself. Tell a black person that they scare you. The response will be a punch, which shows you were wrong, see?

Blogger praetorian May 07, 2016 12:21 PM  

Maybe part of the confusion is in lumping all the whites in SA together as a single class, when there were the largely boer laborers/farmers and the (largely anglo?) capitalists? Vox has talked before about how the term "white" is meaningless, from an identity standpoint. But then people mention Boer farmers hiring blacks as cheap labor too. Mmm.

Perhaps when I point a finger at Le Tribe for selling our civilization out for a buck, I should regard the other four fingers pointing back at me (one of which is jewish.)

At least we make our own memes.

Anonymous TLM May 07, 2016 12:24 PM  

As evidenced in Flint, MI with the whole dirty water situation, black society would/will collapse as they are completely dependent upon the white knowledge/skill of maintaining a functional physical infrastructure. As much as BLM, and other anti-white groups, hate us, they need us more than we'll ever need anything from them.

Anonymous Godfrey May 07, 2016 12:31 PM  

"Black Lives Matter" isn't even real. It wouldn't even exist if it wasn't funded by Soros. It's a Soros funded divide and rule psyop. So expect to see plenty of Soros funded violence at Trump events this summer.

Always remember you have nothing to lose. You lost your healthcare. You lost your ability to accumulate capital. You lost a return on your capital. You lost your retirement. You can't even have a little bit of peace relieving yourself in a public bathroom.

Face it, you're backed into a corner. So fight.

Blogger Natalie May 07, 2016 12:34 PM  

As for Alabama - you really want to turn good fertile land with a large port over to the Dindus? Not going to happen. Why should I give up my family land for them? Pack them off to SJW land, and let them deal.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 12:35 PM  

@ TLM, dependency stokes resentment as much as does mismatch. The Khmer Rouge slaughtered every educated, capable fellow citizen they could find.

We (capable, productive) in the USA face a threat no less existential. Wait until the military and police tear apart along racial fault lines.

We Are The World ended 16 years ago. All we await is for the overloaded Poseidon to capsize.

Blogger Lovekraft May 07, 2016 12:36 PM  

I would love to see Trump say that speech in front of national television.

OpenID paworldandtimes May 07, 2016 12:37 PM  

So long as we're thought-experimenting with New Dinduland, I have two words for you people: natural borders.

That makes Florida (minus the panhandle) the optimal choice.

PA

Anonymous Godfrey May 07, 2016 12:38 PM  

Joe "six pack" has to compete with 65 million immigrants for a job.

While the wealthy elites get multi-trillion $$$ bailouts.

The truth is the elites are in the process of flushing the blacks down the toilet. Blacks are being replaced by Mexicans as the elite's new weapon of choice against the middleclass.

Anonymous #8601 Jean Valjean May 07, 2016 12:40 PM  

Black Lives Matter

Blogger pyrrhus May 07, 2016 12:42 PM  

@53 Florida would be perfect, but you're going to need another wall....

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 12:43 PM  

The logistics of moving 40000000 people to West Africa do look daunting. Long before relocation is considered, that number is apt to be much smaller.

What, it's 330 million total now? Add in a collapse of the welfare state, self-deportation of 30 million Mestizos and a 50% attrition in urban enclaves due to famine, disease & tribal warfare and the numbers become a lot more reasonable.

Natural selection isn't only about birthrates.

Blogger rcocean May 07, 2016 12:44 PM  

Fred is 30 years out of date. He keeps thinking Cops = automatically white. Most of the Cops in Baltimore Freddy Grey death were black. Zimmerman was Hispanic. A black cop was in charge during the death of the obese NYC Cigarette seller. And plenty of black crooks get killed by black cops.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 07, 2016 12:44 PM  

Florida? Naw, just go straight through to Haiti.

Blogger rcocean May 07, 2016 12:47 PM  

"The logistics of moving 40000000 people to West Africa do look daunting"

Not really. Give priority to those under 35 with Kids. They go first. After they're all gone, move out the over 35's. Tell the over 50s they can stay or leave. Problem will solve itself in 10 years.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner May 07, 2016 12:50 PM  

I should point out that it was white gays that dated blacks who took credit for starting to erode the civilization. In fact Apple CEO Timmy Cook said he yelled at S Africa and it broke up.

Personally I think it wiser not to have whites policing blacks

Ferguson was a Whitopia until 2 section 8 housing complexes opened a decade ago. Both the cops and homeowners would no doubt preferred the black crime not be imported. I doubt any whites from Ferguson that believed in equality before continue to do so.

permitted South Africa's whites to economically prey upon South Africa's blacks.

The original indigenous people of South Africa's land where brown Hottontots. They got genocided by others that wanted to be near the castoffs of white civilization. The fact that illegal immigration was a big problem for South Africa shows the truth of apartheid.

Michigan! With access to 4 of 5 Great Lakes? OH HELL NO! They can have Illinois

Since NATE said the blacks in his area are better than blacks elsewhere we should send them there to se if the dirt is magic.

Would never work because seperate but equal cake eater's lawn envy.

At least there wouldn't be any Whole Foods KKcaKe hoaxes.

And as for moving folks, the obviously place is New York City.

NYC is one of the most segregated cities in the world. I heard about jewish landlords offering blacks tens of thousands in cash just to move out.

no distinction between a European language speaking, educated, law abiding, possibly Christian even Calvinist, gentleman of African descent and a Muti worshipping, Marxist guerrilla, low IQ barbarian.

Anonymous Hank Johnson May 07, 2016 12:51 PM  

Sending them to Haiti?

My goodness. Haiti would flip-over & sink. ZZZZZZ

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Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2016 12:56 PM  

WWALD

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Anonymous BGKB May 07, 2016 12:58 PM  

no distinction between...gentleman of African descent and a Muti worshipping, Marxist guerrilla, low IQ barbarian

http://southafricatoday.net/south-africa-news/think-again-before-you-call-yourself-a-supporter-of-the-new-south-africa/
In 1988, a German book published how the White giant of Africa actually was. Below are some of the facts referencing 1988 unless otherwise indicated:

In 1972, SA blacks owned 360,000 vehicles. (More than all the black African states together)

The monthly income of blacks per capita in 1988 was R352 per month in South Africa – Malawi and Mozambique less than R20 per month.

In 1988 black people could undergo a complicated heart valve surgery for just more than $ 1 while black Americans had to pay $ 15,000. In a Pretoria hospital between 2000 and 3000 of these surgeries were done per year...
Between 1962 and 1972 the UN paid $ 298 million to underdeveloped countries compared to South Africa that spent $ 558 million on the development of its black areas...
At least 12 countries of Africa, according to the “Argus African News Service” were so dependent on SA grain that a total ban on imports and exports would have destroyed them economically.

About half of Lesotho’s male population worked in South Africa, about 146,000 in 1983, and earned R280,6 million which was about half of Lesotho’s treasury...

In SA 1.4 officers for every 1,000 people while the world is as follows: UK 2.2, Israel 3.5, New York 4.3, and Moscow 10 per 1000. In South Africa there were 16,292 white policemen versus 19 177 non-white.

Anonymous JTR May 07, 2016 1:08 PM  

This is almost terrifying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1CWG-2GLU4

The U.S. isn't as far down the path as Europe, but...

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2016 1:18 PM  

@58 rcocean

Zimmerman was White Hispanic.

Fixed.

And remember, even if there were no white people at all, they would still be hatin' on the mulattos because their skin is lighter.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab May 07, 2016 1:41 PM  

If you removed the support from every reservation (beyond what is required by treaty) you would shortly have a swiftly decaying infrastructure with most places falling down.

Every single fund would be empty in a year not only due to mismanagement but outright fraud and theft. I have never seen more dysfunctional people or governments than the rez's I've lived and worked on. Even my family's is only well run where they allow whites in.

Cheating and fraud beyond anything but third world standards is common.

I have nothing against the reservations, how could I? I just have no illusions about what would happen if the feds left them on their own (beyond what treaty demands of course). Hell expand the rez's to their original size, there's plenty of state and federal land left fallow.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 1:43 PM  

Why Vox, you're a liberal-tarian. I should have suspected from that complaint you made earlier about how America installed the Shah to steal Iran's oil. Yeah, I'm sure that Medieval Kingdom needed that benzene to grease their goats.
Amazing what a few drops of non-White blood will do to one's Psyche. But I'll play along. We should prevent any further "exploitation" of blechs by sending them all to darkest Africa where they can keep it real.
They should not be oppressed by the White man's food, medicine and clean water. Only the disease, starvation, and genocidal tribal warfare truly represent the non-White "culture". We must quickly remedy the oppression they face from our civilized ways and bring them back to the Stone Age savagery that is their birthright.

Anonymous Ken May 07, 2016 2:03 PM  

Every time we separate from the black menace, they follow us in an orgy of crime, rape, murder and stealing. Brass tacks: we're going to have to kill off the blacks. Just a little bit more resource restriction while the takers continue on with their ways, and it begins.

Anonymous gxg May 07, 2016 2:17 PM  

We should send them to Cuba.

Castro did this to us when he opened his prisons and let the dregs of his country invade ours. Even now, plenty of Cubans are still invading the USA.

For years, we've been absorbing the dregs of other societies. It's time to return the favor. See how other countries like a butt-load of criminals showing up uninvited

Anonymous gxg May 07, 2016 2:20 PM  

...Oh, and when other countries object to the hordes of low-IQ violent types showing up uninvited, we will point and shriek "raaaacist!" at them.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 2:48 PM  

Well the Cuba thing was a whole different deal... Look at the map and check with a ruler how close you people are! Is like a stride away man XD.

Second Cuba would just do some bullet redistribution with the arrivals.

Looks like the only way out of this is to create a legal or illegal segregation using private lands. Like buying an entire State and dictating the rules you desire using the private property as protection from the babarian land army. And guns... Lots of guns. Since the left greatest tactic is to do minority rule based on insanity principle, you can't expect to maintain society with today's federal rules without war.

I am all for segregation that is not imposed, if a particular group that owns a particular land doesn't want anybody there except them, well that is their prerrogative. But with demoshitocracy ... Well you are f'ed. When was the last time you feared that the dictator that controls the bar with Iron rule would change services alllll of a sudden and start selling cakes!? Exactly... You didn't.

Because the bar owner is not insane and you can always take your drunk ass somewhere else! With the Liberals and Insane-Minded politicians that value small groups over big groups, is like having to go into a bar where there is a mandatory drinking rule, whatever the owner gives you, you must drink with a smile in your face.

Don't like seeig your city going Detroit? MOVE! What? You have no money? Well capitalism is your problem then, if this was Soviet Amerika you would be already in perfect equality...the graveyard.

The king and the pawn goes into the same box...

Blogger The Kurgan May 07, 2016 2:59 PM  

Don't worry Vox, you're always going to be a stateless half-breed to me. It would be rude to forget it!

Blogger #6277 Hammer May 07, 2016 3:00 PM  

"The great sin of apartheid was not that it separated South Africa's blacks and whites, but rather, that it kept them together in an immoral manner that permitted South Africa's whites to economically prey upon South Africa's blacks."

As BGKB pointed out, South African blacks were better off than those in other African countries. Many of those "preyed upon" blacks moved to racist SA from other African countries exactly because of that reason. So yes, they were exploited, and they were also better off than where they came from.

South African blacks then were mostly better off then than they are today.
Eg employment rates were higher.
http://businesstech.co.za/news/government/95983/south-africa-unemployment-is-worse-now-than-at-the-end-of-apartheid/

But keeping up that standard of living for the large majority of blacks meant treating them like children/inferior beings (no voting rights, none allowed to be in white areas after a certain time at night, separate residential areas). So a sin it was, they should just have been kept out of SA completely

Blogger Achilles May 07, 2016 3:09 PM  

I only oppose segregation because I prefer repatriation. I hear many arguments as to why mass deportation isn't feasible. Certainly it would result in armed revolt by the deportees. So war then.

I do not want war, but if a race war is inevitable doesn't it behoove us to start it now so our children and grandchildren don't have to fight in our stead. We might be vastly outnumbered if we wait for moral authority or the will of the masses. Better to be the villains who saved America than the heroes who went down with the ship.

Blogger VD May 07, 2016 3:11 PM  

As BGKB pointed out, South African blacks were better off than those in other African countries. Many of those "preyed upon" blacks moved to racist SA from other African countries exactly because of that reason. So yes, they were exploited, and they were also better off than where they came from.

Being better off doesn't justify the exploitation. That's always the argument and it always fails. The moral sense of both blacks and whites was affronted. Remember: out of sight, out of mind works both ways.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 3:16 PM  

The socialists have gone full circle on the inferior races. When they felt assured that White proles would rise up to their cause these dark things were seen rightly as failed races that needed to be exterminated to free up land and resources for technological and societal progress.
Socialists were all for race realism and those like Margaret Sanger of planned Parenthood fame famously devised aborticide and sterilization programs to facilitate the quick and effective extinction of inferior races such as the black Africans.
Only with thei infiltration of the inferior jews who were obviously inferior in physical and mental faculties did these socialist movements tunr into the Vile Anti-White Genocidal Judaic Marxism we all hate and despise Today.
Make no mistake, the abolition of Psychometry and Biological Evolution is ENTIRELY DUE TO THE INFERIORITY of the jews and the so-called "disadvantaged" dark races are just a smokescreen used to cover the Real Reason these Sciences have been de-funded and discouraged.
That oft repeated 115 median IQ, is what is called lying by omission. There are three parts to the Terman Test that number comes from and 115 is the verbal score. You are supposed to add all three parts: verbal, spatial, and numeric and then divide by three. Doing so, you shall get a number like 86. Hardly impressive.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 3:21 PM  

Achilles

With the idea of patriot/nation so dumbed down, how you gonna convince a obviously Mexican born in America to go to Mexico?

Or Chris Rock to go to Cameroon, where I think he descented from?

Repatriation would be meaningless to most people exept for those who are doing the repatriation. So war it is mate.

Blogger Eric Slate May 07, 2016 3:26 PM  

During my stint as a mobile seed inventory clerk, making the rounds on Long Island, something occurred to me. The private security force employed white officers in the stores frequented by blacks and latinos, and black security officers in stores frequented by whites and asians. The other thing I noticed is that they all seemed more courteous than the average New Yorker.

My guess is that they saw value in having people of different cultures, backgrounds, or walks of life police each other.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 07, 2016 3:33 PM  

OT- Gary Welsh, the lawyer who blogged the Senior Cruz/Lee Harvey Oswald connection and Foam Boy pictures is dead. Killed himself in a stairwell with two shots to the head.

Obituary

Video

Blogger Achilles May 07, 2016 3:33 PM  

@Eduardo

Agreed. War it is.

Blogger #6277 Hammer May 07, 2016 3:34 PM  

"Being better off doesn't justify the exploitation. That's always the argument and it always fails."

True

"The moral sense of both blacks and whites was affronted."

But to what extent was the affront based on facts, and to what extent based on media lies?

Is there some kind of general rule that man would rather be king of a shit-heap than being a slave in heaven?

Anonymous gxg May 07, 2016 3:35 PM  

The private security force employed white officers in the stores frequented by blacks and latinos, and black security officers in stores frequented by whites and asians. ...My guess is that they saw value in having people of different cultures, backgrounds, or walks of life police each other.

That's one theory. Another might be that it's easier to police white populations, and thus, "diverse" security personnel were given those easier jobs. Meanwhile, white security officers were given the more difficult task of handling security in minority locations.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 3:35 PM  

It is the same principle used in Afghanistan by the Soviets. You can kill other races more easily.

If the security can't empathize with the attacker he will be more effective...

Blogger sconzey May 07, 2016 3:55 PM  

Do you want white policemen excluded from black neighborhoods?
I understand that many police forces already try to give black officers beats in black neighbourhoods and white officers in white neighbourhoods, but struggle because of a dearth of black officers.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 4:00 PM  

Achilles

U____U wow that was pretty quick XD. Not even gonna give a second try at segregation? You know like a willingly segregated population?

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2016 4:02 PM  

@84 Takin' a Look

Killed himself in a stairwell with two shots to the head.
---

How do you shoot yourself in the head twice?

OpenID drew8ear May 07, 2016 4:13 PM  

I think it is a power and control issue. If you help, as a white, in a black community, then you're gentrifying or making them "white" and you're racist. If you don't help their community, then you don't care about black people and you're racist. It seems black activists want the power to define, control and apply resources and solutions to US society in general the way they believe whites have been doing or they are enjoying messing with society on a collective scale to let out passive aggressive hate on everyone who is not black, especially whites. They only places that I've usually witnessed good relations between whites and blacks are in sports and in the military where meritocracy rules. I don't have much hope for relations in a free society, and I'm definitely worried about where this conflict is headed, especially if the economy drops.

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 4:19 PM  

I'm stealing that! That's a GREAT question. I would add, ". . .done for me lately. . .or ever?

I'm feeling MEME-i-FIED!

Blogger Achilles May 07, 2016 4:21 PM  

@90

If segregation worked we would still have it. It's too easy for the Left to paint as evil. Even if willingly segregated future generations will be agitated and used as pawns. Coexistence is not an option. Not on any large scale. And while regrettable, if war is necessary I'm not one to dilly-dally.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 4:21 PM  

That different people policing only works in Empires where they are great distances and leagues away from home. In America, its the quota program where no Whites is diverse and most Whites is not diverse at all. White security is probably necessary in black areas, cause black security won't care if blacks steal and loot the store.
In a riot, blacks will kill anything with a badge. Homie don't wear a badge to them. If you black and badged you a dead Uncle Tom to them. That's why this whole BLM mess blew up in their face. They wanted Whites off the force, but these niggas shoot anything with a badge. Even Meter maids ain't safe around these retards.

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 4:26 PM  

You make a great point. Unfortunately we know next to nothing about life under apartheid. The reasoning behind the laws,their enforcement, etc.

It may have simply been the best that could be given the raw material they were working with.

Much like the StrongMan Ruler in Muslim countries. Without a strong secular leader they degenerate into Islamic hellholes of brutality and zoophilia. With a StrongMan you have relative stability with Muslim radicals getting their genitals crushed for bad behavior. So it's a trade off.

Knowing the situation and their enemy much better than we do, our forefathers decided to go with the the strongMan. And it worked until Jimmy Carter took sides against America and the West in the name of Social Justice!

Was Carter the first SJW?

Anonymous Jill May 07, 2016 4:27 PM  

I think they want white police officers to be held accountable for crimes they commit against black people. That is what they mean by justice. However, as with most mobs, they've already determined that the defendant was guilty, even before a trial or investigation, and even without all the information.

Anonymous Clay May 07, 2016 4:28 PM  

Segregation vs. Integration:

I will be 57 this May.

I saw it all. The violence, black teachers with Master's Degrees who, couldn't write, much less spell, English, (I remember, that's when they started grading "on the curve"....without that, most every black kid would have failed. Unacceptable!) I could slide through with straight A's, and never even take a book home. The decline in education, black folks slicing each other with straight-razors in the middle of school...and God...the putrid stink. No air-condition back then.

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 4:29 PM  

Could you elaborate? Give a reference to learn more?

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 4:32 PM  

Interesting. And where are you?

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 4:34 PM  

Yeah, but Jill, the crime those niggas be talking about is enforcing the law. The blacks believe rules are made to be broken and small things like murder and rapine just isn't a good enough reason to arrest a brother just trying to earn a living by killin YT.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 4:38 PM  

Segregation won't work anymore. The magic dirt theory is why integration or better said invasion of White spaces is REQUIRED BY LAW. Left on their own its Africa. Whether its Detroit (once called the Paris of the West), or Haiti (once the richest French colony in the World), or just plain brown African savannah. Without Whites, the schools fail, the electricity dies, the law becomes the Law of the Jungle and all that poverty (by White standards anyway).

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 4:50 PM  

And Oh! The Justice these black cops would deliver to their "Brothers!"

My family lived on the island of Okinawa in the 60s and 70s, before and after the reversion of the island government to Japan. Leading up to this the Okinawans used to hold regular "protests" against American rule. Usually they were peaceful but occasionally became violent. One AP lost an eye to a punji stick.

No matter what the protestors did the Air Police were not allowed to aggress!

One day, during the transition but before the reversion, as protesters got out of hand, for the first time they brought in Japanese riot police and the APs got to sit back and laugh as their "brother" Japanese (who HATE the racially impure Okinawans as much as they hate Koreans) BEAT THE LIVING SHIT out of the Okinawan protesters!

The celebrating of the Americans was so conspicuous it made the nightly, usually heavily censored, news! Their commanding officer had to issue a public apology for their "insensitive" behavior!

Now mind you, this was 1972!!! Early PC.

SO LET THE VIBRANCY FLOW!

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 4:54 PM  

Yeah, but when blacks kill each other its no big deal. A hundred or less and it won't make the news. Anything near a million and someone might make a movie.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 07, 2016 4:55 PM  

"The private security force employed white officers in the stores frequented by blacks and latinos, and black security officers in stores frequented by whites and asians. The other thing I noticed is that they all seemed more courteous than the average New Yorker.

My guess is that they saw value in having people of different cultures, backgrounds, or walks of life police each other."


Blacks for the most part still have a fear of a serious white man. Urban whites are fearful of large black guys. It is much more likely the security companies/stores are trying to use fear to short circuit trouble than it is that they want diversity.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 4:55 PM  

You people are dream shatters folks! U___U geee ...

Gonna find... A... Way to show that segregation works u___u illegally maybe but hey, if living in a good place is illegal... Therefore guns.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 4:59 PM  

Werepuppy

You are soo green dude! And furry... The dude obviously double-tapped.

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 5:04 PM  

And don't forget the incompetent black cop his black commander KNEW was a danger to the public who shot 12 year old Tamir Rice DEAD less than ten seconds on the scene!

They showed a video to his parents just hours after his death and the. Parents agreed their son was correctly perceived as a threat.

It took them a few days to realize they'd been conned and to hire a lawyer. But there were no riots because. . .black people kill black people.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 5:04 PM  

Are you a serious White man? Any White guy manhandles a black and its the end of his life and career. You can get sued for shooting them in your house raping your wife. This is way past serious man.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 5:06 PM  

Well you got me there Joshua... Shiiit.

Errr... Well guess in black gangs dominated areas they dont care that much about race while the security guard is ask to use Force, lethal or not to maintain order, so it is a whole different challenge.

Well......... Hmmm.... Well maybe the idea of intimidation might be more accurate, I mean you see Mike Tyson standing on the corner with shades a tight shirt and a north korea made glock replica...

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 5:06 PM  

The idea of black policing is all bad. They rape women who call 911. They steal stuff and expect to get away with it because of their badge. The black cop is a counterproductive waste of time and resources.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 5:09 PM  

I'll tell you this. The black will stay away from Hispanic neighborhoods. Its death by a thousand guns and knives waiting there. Its common knowledge that Guidos are immune to stereotype threat or wacism charges. Its not just The Godfather they're afraid of in the hood. Italians like me, we stick together. We a race that don't care about wacism dude. Its our people, you be respectful, or you be sorry.

Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 5:18 PM  

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Blogger Tom K. May 07, 2016 5:19 PM  

You're right, man!

Jews are mental defectives.

That's how come they run EVERYTHING!

Ignorant Asshat.

Blogger VD May 07, 2016 5:24 PM  

But to what extent was the affront based on facts, and to what extent based on media lies?

It was based 100 percent on facts. Seriously, you guys desperately need to stop trying to blame the liberal media for all the evil in the world. They can only fan existing flames.

Yes, the media is evil, and stupid, and dishonest. But they're not the problem. They're merely a symptom.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 5:28 PM  

You say Guidos and my brain goes straight to the Jersey Shore.

Actually this whole, we take care of our own, idea might be why certain areas in cities are un-accessible to stupid behavior. Well sort of.

Blogger Rusty Fife May 07, 2016 5:45 PM  

TLM wrote:As evidenced in Flint, MI with the whole dirty water situation, black society would/will collapse as they are completely dependent upon the white knowledge/skill of maintaining a functional physical infrastructure. As much as BLM, and other anti-white groups, hate us, they need us more than we'll ever need anything from them.

I looked. All the people that are prosecuting are white. I was even suspecting there would be an arab. Nope all nice German names. The only obvious failure mode was the lady in charge.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 5:54 PM  

Yeah sure Tom, and its going so well isn't it? I'm sure everyone here is aware of the rampant nepotism and ethnocentrism involved. As well as those legalised counterfeiting rings laughingly called Central Banks they use to buy everything. If not for the ruins and bankruptcies, you might be able to get away with that claim. And no, I'm not buying the its all a brilliant plan thing.
Why bankrupt what you already own? What sort of plan is that?

Anonymous Daniel H May 07, 2016 6:00 PM  

>>The great sin of apartheid was not that it separated South Africa's blacks and whites, but rather, that it kept them together in an immoral manner that permitted South Africa's whites to economically prey upon South Africa's blacks.

Perfect summation. And the just solution in 1992 was partition. Whites take 30% of the land mass, with the expulsion of blacks from their white portion, except for a small number of Blacks who understand that they have no political rights and no expectation of ever gaining political rights, and live in the White land strictly on the sufferance of whites who can revoke their tolerance at any time, and the expulsion of whites from the other 70% of the Black territory, also with the understanding that those who are allowed to remain have no political rights and no expectation of gaining any. But white shortsighted greed undermined any hope for this solution. Too many whites could not imagine a world without servile black labor. So now South African whites have no country, no political power, no security and no future unless some leader arises who will force the separation that should have happened in 1992. And this yet may come to pass.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 07, 2016 6:02 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Zimmerman was White Hispanic.

(((Zimmerman))) was not half-white.

#6277 Hammer wrote:But to what extent was the affront based on facts, and to what extent based on media lies?

To what extent is any popular movement based on facts rather than feelings?

Anonymous Ad Victoriam May 07, 2016 6:04 PM  

@117 While those being prosecuted are European, I'll wait until I hear the full story before passing judgement. No senior manager, no matter how persuasive or brilliant, can lead a team of imbeciles and incompetents to mission success in science or engineering enterprise. SOMEBODY at the worker bee level has to be there to carry the weight. If these guys were shortsighted enough to stay in billets when they knew they didn't have competent workers to accomplish their objectives, but stayed in for the money hoping it wouldn't blow up on their watch (the entire Washington DC story) then screw'em.

Anonymous YearsBeforePresence May 07, 2016 6:09 PM  

@2 I suggest Florida, below the panhandle. Southern Florida isn't American anymore anyway and losing middle Florida would be a small price to pay. The southern boundary of the panhandle would make a great location for another wall, too. This one doesn't need a gate.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2016 6:12 PM  

In light of all these comments, I find the concept of Rachel Dolezol and Sean King even more hilarious

Blogger Cecil Henry May 07, 2016 6:19 PM  

Here is the real news of the weekend, and what they won't tell you:

Sadiq Khan becomes London's first elected Muslim mayor

http://mashable.com/2016/05/06/sadiq-khan-labour-mayor-london-elections/#InZzIg7a.GqY

Newly elected Mayor of London Sadiq Khan

LONDON — Labour candidate Sadiq Khan has been elected Mayor of London, beating his Conservative opponent Zac Goldsmith. (Jewish)

Khan, 45, replaces flamboyant Conservative Boris Johnson after a race characterised by allegations of extremism and racism.

'Anti-racist Hitler' was really about how to attack a people with 'love' and 'diversity' !

This is what you are seeing in London--- White Genocide. Watch these videos, they address the real ISSUES!!:

Watch these videos, they address the real ISSUES!!:

White Genocide in motion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02FE0j0RSCQ

Blogger Rusty Fife May 07, 2016 6:19 PM  

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Anonymous Your sister's new squeeze May 07, 2016 6:25 PM  

OT- Gary Welsh, the lawyer......
********************************
Dude was an attorney. I fail to see the problem with his being shuffled off from his mortal coil.

The old joke about dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean being a good start apply here as well.

Shakespeare was right.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 6:35 PM  

Londonistan hasn't been White territory since the Tudors. Baron Rothschild has made it his Whorehouse for over a Century. I wouldn't touch the "Royal Family" now. It and the nobility have been defiled by lower races for far too long. Poor Princess Diana, a waste of such beauty on such debased material.
This new Moor might liven up the fall. I imagine any deals he made with our enemies will quickly dissipate once he assumes control.

Anonymous BGKB May 07, 2016 6:36 PM  

It doesn't matter now because the Chinese will exploit Africa even shooting workers that strike. One of the most annoying things about leftists is that if something helps all students they will hate it. The free salad bar story I linked months ago about how everyone was utilizing the salad bar more than blacks was insane. If a liberal had a choice of genie wishes of:
1) Every school age student within 100 miles would gain the equivalent of 20 IQ points
or
2) Every Asian and white student in their school district would lose 1 IQ point,
leftists would chose #2 every time.

I just have no illusions about what would happen if the feds left them on their own (beyond what treaty demands of course).

Couldn't they thrive just from selling tax free cigs ect.. to people like Eric Garner? I have never been to a reservation but all the Native Americans I have meet seemed fine. I went to pow wows with one ex, I am more familiar with the east of the Mississippi Indians. I was not avoiding the reservations when I took travel jobs it was just that I only went to places that had nearby bars/clubs listed in a guidebook.

Killed himself in a stairwell with two shots to the head.---How do you shoot yourself in the head twice?

Almost makes you want to put in your will that you wouldn't kill yourself as long as a list of people was still alive. "Shit to cover this up we have to get the supremes "Wise Latrina" on a small plane with 50 women raped by Bill C".

think it is a power and control issue. If you help, as a white, in a black community, then you're gentrifying or making them "white"

I searched for a bit but couldn't find an article about a charity that grew free food in unused lots in either Detroit or Chicago with the natives being mad about white people coming and cleaning up their streets & growing free vegetables for them. If you can't even pick up trash without resentment??

that I've usually witnessed good relations between whites and blacks are in sports and in the military where meritocracy rules.

Ask Col. Kratman who would be more likely to be promoted a STR8 qualified white man with no negative info, or a wife beating DUI _________. Actually I would like to know if lesbian wife beaters would still get the extra credit.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 07, 2016 6:39 PM  

"Are you a serious White man? Any White guy manhandles a black and its the end of his life and career. You can get sued for shooting them in your house raping your wife. This is way past serious man."

You need to quit watching Worldstar. But then I see you are Italian, so you are not really white anyway. I would not expect you to understand what a serious white man is.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 07, 2016 6:48 PM  

We're not all dagos you racist. My ancestors are the blonds from North where the Germanics settled after Rome went South.

Anonymous Clay May 07, 2016 6:58 PM  

Joshua, bother, you are pushing this shit to the point of obnoxiousness, I fear.

Some things you say are well & good.

BUT. You're saying TOO DAMN MUCH.

God Bless, and good nite.

Anonymous Eduardo May 07, 2016 8:05 PM  

Come on Clay! He is just like Pesci: He is short, ugly, angry, has a horrible fashion sense but.... He got Sharon Stone and rode with Murtaugh and Riggs and beat the crap out with a base all bat, buried alive and shot in the face!!! And he is still alive and kicking, our Italian Badass.

So he can get to talk about everything Joshua cuz it is all too awesome... Unlike you Clay who os obviously a construction material.

Alright alright, and better than me because I am only 90% white and the hispanic name

Yours truely, Teddy.

Blogger CM May 07, 2016 8:33 PM  

I suggest Florida, below the panhandle. Southern Florida isn't American anymore anyway and losing middle Florida would be a small price to pay. The southern boundary of the panhandle would make a great location for another wall, too. This one doesn't need a gate.

And lose St Augustine and the springs???

No... at least draw the line s of ocala.

Anonymous mature craig May 07, 2016 8:35 PM  

I drove a cab for 6 years 2009-2015 in Copiague Ny and I had nothing but great positive experiences from all my African American passengers always very polite and nice to me. It was a pleasure to be in their presence.

Anonymous Clay May 07, 2016 8:54 PM  

Good. Drive those nice folks back home.

Hope they tip well.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 07, 2016 11:39 PM  

Brother Clay,
Craig p means well, but I need to un-yankeefy him , and that is a tall order.
Pray for me , brother, this ain't an easy task.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 07, 2016 11:44 PM  

"We're not all dagos you racist."
You sound like a dago to me.
Enough with the pissin' and moqanin' already.

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin May 08, 2016 12:32 AM  

Lower class blacks, even the peaceful ones, are largely resigned to criminal behavior. Like the weather, it’s widely seen as a simple fact of life. Being a victim may be inconvenient, traumatic, or even fatal, but if the alternative is aggressive law enforcement most will take their chances.
Of course the only real solution is “an end to racism,” whatever that might entail, but until then, the race of the officers is largely irrelevant. What they want is lax enforcement.

Blogger EscapeVelocity May 08, 2016 2:08 AM  

Basically this boils down to Apartheid. It was an attempt to give black South Africans a measure of self rule within their "homelands."

Anonymous Northwest Watching THing May 08, 2016 2:46 AM  

@72 "But I'll play along."
Whites always give NAMs an inch, and they will always take a mile. This is inevitable in a democracy, especially with universal suffrage "shudders" where politicians will gladly cede to these parasites.

"it kept them together in an immoral manner"
This here is perfect rhetoric. Any talk of pragmatism, and it easily becomes "5% foreigner labor is good($), so 10% must be better", becomes 35%, becomes civil war and now you're fighting off the barbarians hordes. By framing it as moral/immoral, 1% is too much, 5% is right out. There is no slippery slope to worry about, and your national identity is maintained without bloodshed.

Blogger Gordon May 08, 2016 8:10 AM  

BGKB: "Couldn't they thrive just from selling tax free cigs ect.. to people like Eric Garner? I have never been to a reservation but all the Native Americans I have meet seemed fine."

Reservations are strange places, to people who didn't grow up in a tribal society. And if you didn't grow up on a particular reservation, one cannot tell the players and relationships without a scorecard.

But I have been on many reservations. If the tribe owns a casino, or resort, it will be run by whites and be maintained and nice. If not, it goes to hell very quickly. Tribe-owned business are simply ways for the chairman's relatives to loot.

Tribal facilities quickly go to seed because the chairman's idiot nephew is put in charge of maintenance and he sells the supplies and equipment off to buy liquor or drugs. This is nearly universal in the upper midwest.

You know how Chicago was corrupt, but it "worked?" Well, tribal government is corrupt and it's incompetent. Bad on bad.

These are my relatives, but honestly, they can't have anything nice. One on one, some of the best folks you can know. Bring in the booze or the meth, ah shit get me out of here.

Want to visit a reservation? Go to Nebraska. US 20 east from Chadron to Rushville. Go north on NE 87 to Whiteclay, and cross the border to Pine Ridge. Granted...that's probably the most shocking place in the US. But millions have been spent to try to change it, and they may as well have pissed on all the money. Go ahead, use Google Street View to get a good look at Whiteclay, where they sell booze. Pine Ridge reservation is dry, heh.

Blogger Gordon May 08, 2016 8:12 AM  

BGKB: "Couldn't they thrive just from selling tax free cigs ect.. to people like Eric Garner? I have never been to a reservation but all the Native Americans I have meet seemed fine."

Reservations are strange places, to people who didn't grow up in a tribal society. And if you didn't grow up on a particular reservation, one cannot tell the players and relationships without a scorecard.

But I have been on many reservations. If the tribe owns a casino, or resort, it will be run by whites and be maintained and nice. If not, it goes to hell very quickly. Tribe-owned business are simply ways for the chairman's relatives to loot.

Tribal facilities quickly go to seed because the chairman's idiot nephew is put in charge of maintenance and he sells the supplies and equipment off to buy liquor or drugs. This is nearly universal in the upper midwest.

You know how Chicago was corrupt, but it "worked?" Well, tribal government is corrupt and it's incompetent. Bad on bad.

These are my relatives, but honestly, they can't have anything nice. One on one, some of the best folks you can know. Bring in the booze or the meth, ah shit get me out of here.

Want to visit a reservation? Go to Nebraska. US 20 east from Chadron to Rushville. Go north on NE 87 to Whiteclay, and cross the border to Pine Ridge. Granted...that's probably the most shocking place in the US. But millions have been spent to try to change it, and they may as well have pissed on all the money. Go ahead, use Google Street View to get a good look at Whiteclay, where they sell booze. Pine Ridge reservation is dry, heh.

Anonymous Hrw-500 May 08, 2016 9:21 AM  

If Dr. Vervoerd, who was prime minister of South Africa, wasn't assassinated in 1966. I wonder how South Africa would had been today? I saw this blog post from Mike Smith's political commentary blog about him. (Here the archived copy in case if it'll be deleted)

Blogger FrankNorman May 08, 2016 6:11 PM  

Speaking as a white South African, who grew up during the Apartheid era (I was 20 when Mandela was let out of prison), I feel I know a thing or two about my country.

First, Vox is correct to a degree about it being a case of "wanting things both ways" - but it was not that simple. It was more a case of trying to make a system that let two different groups of people both have what they wanted.

On the one hand, the Afrikaner Nationalists, who wanted a country for their people, not one ruled by others. A land where they could live and prosper.

On the other hand, the Big Money globalists, who wanted a supply of cheap wage-labour for the mines. South Africa has around 50% of the world's mine-able gold deposits, 80% of the diamonds, 30% of the Platinum, 100% of the Chromium...

When this mineral wealth was discovered, the British Empire went to war for it - conquering the Boer Republics, and putting their people in concentration camps. Then they conquered the Bantu, and imposed taxation on them, forcing them to become wage-earners in the mines.

When the National Party came to power in the late 1940's, they implemented their racial segregation policies not out of any hatred for blacks, but to benefit whites - and the Afrikaner people in particular, many of whom were in great poverty. Job reservation laws were passed, so that working-class Whites would not be out-competed by blacks who'd work for less. They also expanded the Civil Service and the Railways, so that no Afrikaner need be without employment.

In principle, yes, they should have sent all the Natives back the Reservations, built a wall, and made South Africa great again. But... but... who would work the mines then? Who would mop the floors? Who would do all the work that blacks had been going so cheaply?
The White Nationalist answer to that would be "White people! And you'll have to pay them well for it!" - which didn't sound so good to the economic Powers That Be.

So they settled for half-measures. Yes, they wanted to give the blacks their own nations, and make them all move there, but they were fighting against the dead hand of Cecil John Rhodes.

America has the same problem - I think in South African terms you're still in the Smuts era, more or less. The Republicans love that cheap Mexican labour, but want to keep them in legal limbo. The Democrats want to give them the vote. If Trump is serious about sending them all back, things will get interesting. Big Business will not like it. Prepare to pay more to get things done - but you'll be paying fellow White people to do those things.

Anonymous SteelPalm May 09, 2016 3:48 AM  

@106

Appreciate the advice, but I have plenty of redneck friends. Admittedly, none in Mississippi (it's a small state), but a number in Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, and the rural parts of Florida. But a stated enemy is an enemy. Doesn't matter whether he is a fellow Russian Jew, a redneck, or a transexual Hottentot.

And thanks for the offer of disarmament, but I have a few AR-15s and keep track of my surroundings.

As for the rest, (and this goes for several other replies) realize the way SOME white nationalists talk about Jews is the way MOST Muslim/black/Hispanic/Asian nationalists talk about whites.

You think we control much of society. You're giving us too much credit, unfortunately. Non-white nationalists talk about white supremacy and how the evil white man is keeping them down. They're giving you too much credit, also unfortunately.

White nationalists think Jews are united. We're not. There are right-wing nationalists and left-wing traitors. Non-white nationalists think there is a mass conspiracy of white people all working together. There isn't. You have some right-wing nationalists and a multitude of traitors.

In the first half of the 20th century, non-white nationalists didn't matter outside of Imperial Japan, since any Western nation could crush them easily. Now, they're vast, formidable, and powerful, and you're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise.

The Death Cult, for instance, is 1.5 billion strong, highly united, with many brave members and a few who are excellent tacticians. Defeating them is no mean feat.

Which is why I find the continued fixation on the Jews simultaneously hilarious and discouraging. Discouraging since it reduces your chances of survival against the groups posing the genuine existential threat.

And make no mistake, I'm rooting for the white nationalists to win in Europe and elsewhere, regardless of what they think of Jews. But this prospect is uncertain to begin with, and becomes less so when chasing shadows. (There are roughly 1 million Jews in all of Europe combined)

Anonymous Anonymous May 09, 2016 7:15 AM  

I can tell you exactly what blm wants. MONEY.

Anonymous Mr. Rational May 09, 2016 9:38 AM  

SteelPalm wrote:I find the continued fixation on the Jews simultaneously hilarious and discouraging. Discouraging since it reduces your chances of survival against the groups posing the genuine existential threat.
Excuse me, but who was it who managed to achieve the immigration changes which led to there being any significant butt-raiser population in the USA to begin with?  It wasn't the butt-raisers; the act had the name of someone named Emmanuel on it.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit May 09, 2016 11:03 PM  

You all need to read the Marquis de Custine. Explains the rez and the ghettos and Dalrymple's Life at the Bottom.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit May 09, 2016 11:03 PM  

You all need to read the Marquis de Custine. Explains the rez and the ghettos and Dalrymple's Life at the Bottom.

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