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Sunday, May 22, 2016

The Internet isn't fair

Neither is life. So what? Git hahd. Git gud. The New Femininity writes an essay on How to Defend Yourself From the SJW Mob:
Never assume anyone is going to be fair to you

No one is going to be fair to you and no one is going to sympathize with you. No one is going to give you the benefit of the doubt and no one is going to defend you because their default thought process is that you shouldn’t have touched the flaming hot stove if you didn’t expect to get burned.

My own husband didn’t have a lick of sympathy for me. He told me I was completely on my own. In fact, the only time he showed me any sort of empathy was months after when I told him I pressed full charges on my stalker against her professional license. He knew she went too far, and he fully supported my decision.

Bottom line is, people are not going to be partial to your sense of political justice in saying controversial things on the internet–because they themselves don’t want the trouble or expense of caring about something they believe you brought squarely upon yourself. It isn’t right and it isn’t wrong–it just is. People have jobs, their own lives, and their own multitude of problems. Don’t expect them to be fair, supportive or understanding in your willful decision to engage in your own personal crusade of online martyrdom–it’s your problem and they are under no obligation or duty to make it theirs.
On the flip side, when you find that rare individual who is willing to stand with you, who is willing to damn the torpedoes and defend you, you'd better appreciate what a gift you've been given.

That's why so many people fear the VFM and the Dread Ilk. They know none of their tactics are going to work. They see the mutual loyalty that is the chief characteristic of the relationship and it scares them to death because they don't know anything like it.

That's also why it is useless to attempt to separate me from my social media allies. I'm not blind to their various idiosyncracies, (nor, to be fair, are they blind to mine) I simply don't care because I know that I can count on them. Every single one of them has, at one point or another, put himself in the line of fire on my behalf when he did not have to do so.

This may be one more thing that separates the #AltRight from the movement conservatives. They are constantly jockeying for position and status and air time. We are far more concerned with mutual defense against the media and SJW mobs, and we genuinely celebrate each others' scalps and successes. Take on one of us, and you can be pretty sure that at the very least, the others will at least fire a symbolic round or two in your direction.

How do you develop strong alliances? Mike Cernovich has already answered that. Look for those who need help and deserve it. Help them. Then repeat.

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92 Comments:

Blogger ray May 22, 2016 5:00 PM  

Got the King on one side and his priest on the other. Until proven otherwise, everybody else is the enemy.

Anonymous mature-Craig May 22, 2016 5:06 PM  

I thought it was great when the internet uncovered that terrible lie Dan Rather was telling about Bush and the National Guard. That fake letter that he was using. I am certain that was an enormous embarrassment for CBS and the American News media in general,

Blogger Earl May 22, 2016 5:07 PM  

Who is that author? Mary?

Blogger Vis De Loupen VFM #8689 May 22, 2016 5:07 PM  

You order. We follow.

Blogger Lazarus May 22, 2016 5:12 PM  

Speaking of internet wars:

BlackLiesMatter - Activist Group Leader Arrested For Sex Trafficking, Blames "Conservative Trolls" - ZH

Anonymous LastRedoubt May 22, 2016 5:13 PM  

@mature-Craig

Even funnier - not only was it obviously NOT typewritten, but due to quirks in text/font rendering differences between Mac and Windows versions of MS Office at the time, you could also be fairly certain it was written on a Mac.

Blogger Groot May 22, 2016 5:31 PM  

I agree with and applaud your appreciation of loyalty and your appreciation of its rarity. I have literally had guys give me the shirt off their back, and I have been snitched on by people I had thought friendly. You just don't forget those moments.

I have weird talents that are fun as hell, and I enjoy your magical super-powers, for they also are fun as hell. The Trump love has pissed me off, not least because it has attracted Australopithecines like jOHN MOSBY to the blog, but I would never think of doing anything other than defending you in any conversation.

Blog on!

Anonymous mature-Craig May 22, 2016 5:36 PM  

re 2: scratch that last part: there are a lot of good people in the American news media, it was an isolated incident that hopefully people learned from

Blogger Sam vfm #111 May 22, 2016 5:42 PM  

@8 there are a lot of good people in the American news media

Name one.

Blogger Derek Kite May 22, 2016 5:43 PM  

It is worse than not bothering to help. It is actively abandoning people once it gets hot. There is some weird notion among Conservatives that if they just lay low they will eventually get their way. Bah.

Blogger VD May 22, 2016 5:56 PM  

there are a lot of good people in the American news media

No, there aren't. Craig, just stop with the incessant and idiotic assertions. Your musings on Sean Hannity's hair back in the day were more credible.

Blogger J Van Stry May 22, 2016 5:59 PM  

So many people just don't understand this. Nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes, we all have our little foibles.
The left has always been able to look past not even minor problems, but even huge major ones! While so many people on the right these days will abandon someone at the drop of a hat for the smallest of reasons.

And this is why they always lose. If you can't stand up to the minor crap of day to day life, how in the world will you ever stand up for ANYTHING that matters?

It's called 'growing a spine.'

Blogger Austin Ballast May 22, 2016 6:13 PM  

Need more direction on how to find these allies. I am more than happy to help others, but really hard to find the proper people to do that in today's society.

Perhaps it is easy for some, but others of us struggle at it.

Anonymous 5343 May 22, 2016 6:19 PM  

That there was my feel-good read of the week, Vox. Carry on, Supreme Dark Lord!

Anonymous Susan May 22, 2016 6:22 PM  

@7 Groot

Be aware that John Mosby has been a reader commenter on this blog for a very long time. It is just that he has only started back up commenting again that you as a newbie are noticing him.

Anonymous mature-Craig May 22, 2016 6:45 PM  

musings back in the day: I am very embarrassed about 90% of what I said here back then.
told some lies. very annoying little gamma I was.

Blogger Salt May 22, 2016 6:51 PM  

Press on, Supreme Dark Lord. More skulls await.

Anonymous Sprinter May 22, 2016 6:54 PM  

You can no longer count on Larry or Brad. Discuss...

Anonymous Cheddarman May 22, 2016 7:08 PM  

Mosby is a bit of a rascal at times but I would bet a large sum of cash that he is extremely loyal to friends and family.

Anonymous Cheddarman May 22, 2016 7:10 PM  

My Leige it is an honor to serve you.

Blogger VD May 22, 2016 7:16 PM  

You can no longer count on Larry or Brad. Discuss...

Brad and Larry are not, and never were, social media allies. I respect both of them and have no problem with either of them; both of them had every opportunity to throw me under the bus and repeatedly refused to do so.

That takes courage, particularly on behalf of someone with whom you disagree. I have no criticism for either man.

Blogger KC9ZNR May 22, 2016 7:29 PM  

Sprinter @18,
Why do you think Larry or Brad are either reliable or unreliable? I'm curious because I suck at interpreting actions and intentions - it's a learning exercise for me to understand how my own observations are coloured.

Craig @16, very annoying little gamma I was There is yet hope for us! I wish I could take back some of the stupid s**t I've posted... I very much appreciate what I learn here and have great respect for the Ilk and all who sincerely contribute to the discussion.

Blogger Gaiseric May 22, 2016 7:36 PM  

@Susan. Yes, thank you. We all missed that, somehow. As nearas I can tell the debris oeuvre of Mosby's posts are telling everyone about how he's an old timer who used to post here years ago.

It would be nice if he had something else to offer other than being entitled to be treated like the returning prodigal.

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 22, 2016 7:44 PM  

Still not loving Roosh's Anti Alt-right screed where he suggested that we are worse than feminidts when it comes to wanting to control the sexual behavior of men. He can't decide whether he wants to be a PUA or actually put action to his patriarchal tunes.

Anonymous mature-Craig May 22, 2016 7:50 PM  

alt-right, that term wasn't around 10 years ago, im still not used to a bunch of new terms here

Anonymous Quartermaster May 22, 2016 7:55 PM  

@2
That was fake but accurate, donchaknow.

Don't worry, tho. CBS felt no shame over it, so they weren't the slightest bit traumatized.

Anyone that served in the military at the time Bush was in the ANG, saw right off that the letter was fake. There was no ball for the early 70s Selectric that produced that letter.

Blogger JWM May 22, 2016 8:00 PM  

How ironic that it was Charles (LGF) Johnson who uncovered the Dan Rather hoax. Johnson started out as an ally. He went full SJW within a year or so. I used to be on that site every day until I ended up like hundreds of others who got banned on LGF. Hard to believe that was over ten years back.

JWM

Anonymous BGKB May 22, 2016 8:06 PM  

there are a lot of good people in the American news media NAANMALT

Shape up - your purpose is to bring Light, not piss around fellating yourself.

That's hard on your back also.

Blogger S1AL May 22, 2016 8:18 PM  

"Hello there little ones. You're very cute and furry."

Who are you supposed to be, the creepy cousin of the bronies?

Blogger Jon M May 22, 2016 8:37 PM  

The dearth of purity tests and purges on the alt-right is a huge selling point. I've yet to see an attack by a righty tbat wasn't actually a *counter*-attack. Other than that it's all a lot of, "Yeah those guys have some odd ideas about sex/whitey/handgun-choice, but they're good on the important stuff. Great to have them aboard."

Contrast with a decade's experience. With the libertarians spending more time analyzing which Scotsman are True and its no wonder the altright has done more to change the conversation in a year than the libertarians in a decade.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 22, 2016 8:44 PM  

This may be one more thing that separates the #AltRight from the movement conservatives. They are constantly jockeying for position and status and air time.

Amen.

That has always been the problem with right-wing media. And it's nothing new. That one goes back to Bill Buckley. The deal he had with the media was a sweet one. They allowed him to be the One Allowable Right-Wing Voice and in exchange he read anyone out of the conservative movement whom THEY disproved of.


And there you have the problem for Zuckerberg. The guy who won the biggest business lottery jackpot since Bill Gates is ultimately powerless to select his own opponents. Everyone who lined up on their knees in front of the Facebook gloryhole is now discredited.

Blogger Lovekraft May 22, 2016 8:45 PM  

Sargon recently did a survey of his subscribers and found that a massive majority of atheists and 20-year olds. FWIW.

Here, I see a more mature collective. Return of Kings seems like for those in their 30s.



Blogger Lovekraft May 22, 2016 8:51 PM  

Nemesis:

I have one question. Your focus is obviously strong so I want to know, sincerely, to who else you have directed your criticism?

Are you trying to gain some cred or is there something the rest of us need to be aware of?

If I didn't know what Vox has done to help stem the tide of raging sjw, I would look pretty stupid coming onto the blog and waving my arms.

Anonymous Zero one data one two one two May 22, 2016 8:51 PM  

No, there aren't. Craig, just stop with the incessant and idiotic assertions. Your musings on Sean Hannity's hair back in the day were more credible.

Florian saucer attack, it’s over
Zero one data one two one two
Calculated dreams graphs and numbers
Zero one data one two one two

Anonymous ZFG May 22, 2016 8:53 PM  

Can't decide if this Nemesis troll is drunk or off his meds.

Perhaps both...

Anonymous Tyrion May 22, 2016 8:58 PM  

Perhaps both...

I am a person who drinks.

Blogger Harsh May 22, 2016 9:01 PM  

ZFG wrote:Can't decide if this Nemesis troll is drunk or off his meds.

Perhaps both...



He's just another Internet tough guy trying to stroke his own ego. That's never worked here before and it won't work now.

Blogger Sir Thermite May 22, 2016 9:06 PM  

Can't decide if this Nemesis troll is drunk or off his meds

He's wily enough to wait until it's almost almost 2am in Italy to make his first threat. For those unaware of that, it will look like our host is avoiding him, rather that likely being asleep in bed.

Blogger Groot May 22, 2016 9:12 PM  

@15. Susan:

Hi, Susan! Yeah, I got the Australopethicine angle. I like your grammatical response, and how you're not calling Josh a fag on the eve of his first child's birth.

It's also cute how one oldbie is standing up for another (no irony). My mother-in-law is sweet: she cried when Obama received the Nobel Prize, because it was so unfair. Some people age gracefully, with wisdom and decency. Then there's jOHN MOSBY (don't clean it up, he'll keep soiling those Depends). I'll bet you're the graceful, decent type.

Anonymous Sprinter May 22, 2016 9:15 PM  

both of them had every opportunity to throw me under the bus and repeatedly refused to do so.

Both of them have done so, repeatedly.

Blogger Harsh May 22, 2016 9:24 PM  

I AM WHAT I AM wrote:Oh, and VD.
And, no - little men. Not a "tough guy". It's more like a winged one paying attention to a cry of Faith, then finding... you're not actually Christians.


Oh no, we're not Real Christians(tm). Haven't heard that one before.

I have a pretty good idea I know who Nemesis is. That last post gave it away.

Anonymous Man of the Atom May 22, 2016 9:39 PM  

I AM WHAT I AM wrote:

. . .

We Love You All.

But you can be so much better.


Drunk and arrogant it seems. Should be amusing to watch this unfold.

Blogger pdwalker May 22, 2016 9:44 PM  

Sprinter,

cite or retract.

Anonymous Chico and the Man May 22, 2016 9:47 PM  

Vox is right about the cucks. Take Matty Walsh's break with the republican party. Or Ben Sasse who views his political party not as an association of people but as a tool to be used just as long as useful. Link.

Sasse and Walsh are disloyal.

Anonymous Sperg123456789 May 22, 2016 9:50 PM  

Did The Perfect Gentleman Elliot Rogers return from the dead to spam posts? Go haunt a toilet.

Blogger Earl May 22, 2016 9:52 PM  

Fact: God Hates Fags

Anonymous Sperg123456789 May 22, 2016 9:57 PM  

You sound autistic

Blogger Earl May 22, 2016 10:01 PM  

This comment comes to you after years of tribulation. I have been persecuted, arrested, SJWs have taken my life from me. There is no privacy. After Snowden we all know this. I have to say this even though I know the NSA will be monitoring this blog now that I have commented. Russia will form an alliance with the new Confederacy. Secede now. Vox you know who I am. Say my name and I will spare you from gulag.

Blogger Harsh May 22, 2016 10:02 PM  

Man, they're coming out of the woodwork tonight...

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra May 22, 2016 10:04 PM  

VFM, Dread Ilk have my support.

Encourage, support, promote, show gratitude, rinse and repeat.

Let us stand, pray for the best options seeking the best higher thinking to solve problems.

Life is never ever fair, its cruel, we are called or I am called to endure, pray, work thru it and progress on.

Blogger S1AL May 22, 2016 10:17 PM  

I'm leaning towards Spooner on this one. Or maybe Wheeler finally went off the deep end. Then again, it also seems like cribbing from Supernatural, and I think the latter is too old for TV.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 22, 2016 10:21 PM  

Indeed

Blogger LurkingPuppy May 22, 2016 10:21 PM  

Harsh wrote:Man, they're coming out of the woodwork tonight...

It's one guy who uses multiple names. VD and Heaving Bosoms of Spam Disposal have dealt with him before. Just ignore him; they'll clean up the mess (along with everyone who replies to it) when they come online.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 22, 2016 10:24 PM  

@61 S1AL

It's not Spooner or Wheeler. Don't worry about him. The blog admins will clean this up later.

Trust me, this is just sad and you don't want to bother with it.

Blogger Automatthew of Clan Heaving Bosoms May 22, 2016 10:44 PM  

Why do you think it's not Spooner, Cataline Sergius?

Blogger Elder Son May 22, 2016 10:52 PM  

That was like something crawling out of the sewer pit under the Vatican.

Blogger Heaving Bosoms of Liberty May 22, 2016 10:52 PM  

Dear Nemesis,

You're not wanted here. Please go work out your fear and trembling in some other venue. I hear Indonesia's nice this time of year.

Blogger LP9 Solidified in Gold! Rin Integra May 22, 2016 11:02 PM  

This comment has been removed by the author.

Blogger S1AL May 22, 2016 11:05 PM  

@Cataline

Haaaaaaaaa! I was only poking fun at Wheeler's "throne and altar" stuff... I mean, how can you not?

Blogger SS May 22, 2016 11:14 PM  

Automatthew of Clan Heaving Bosoms wrote:Why do you think it's not Spooner, Cataline Sergius?

I forgot Andrew's MO. Went back and read some of his old stuff and it does look very familiar.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 12:14 AM  

7. Groot
You got some branches in that top of yours need need thinnin' out.
15. Susan
Thanks for the kind words, ma'am.
23. Gaiseric
I don't feel entitled to any thing here, sonny.
They got this thing called a scroll, if you don't want to read my posts, use it.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 12:28 AM  

19. Cheddarman May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
"Mosby is a bit of a rascal at times but I would bet a large sum of cash that he is extremely loyal to friends and family."
And you are correct, sir.
Hope you and yours are doing well.

Blogger weka May 23, 2016 12:56 AM  

Well, some of us are Calvinists. Some are Lutherans. Some are Catholic, some pagans, and some vorship der Volk, or chase pussy, or offend BGKB.

Meh. If you seek truth, you get support. If you bitch and posture and subvert, you get mp support.

Just because y'all don't agree with Earl or our host or me matters not a jot. The rulers of the Social Juice Minions have our names and want to purge us. They will come for the Catholics and Calvinists and Orthodox and Libertarians and then anyone who has the gall to be a patriarch.

If they win, that is.

So we have to win. So our children are protected. And if that means I'm allied with Roosh and Cernovich and Milo, not a great deal. I'd shout any of them a beer.

Blogger bob k. mando May 23, 2016 1:29 AM  

7. Groot May 22,
not least because it has attracted Australopithecines like jOHN MOSBY to the blog


unless you had a handle previous to Groot, MOSBY long predates you at this blog.

also, we don't rise to your high standards and expectations?

don't care.

Blogger lowercaseb May 23, 2016 1:53 AM  

I hate you all...but I still have your back.

Blogger vtah May 23, 2016 1:56 AM  

this post really speaks to me. I've been on the receiving end by defending someone else. sucks but i had to toughen up. it's a lot better when people have your back so that you're encouraged to speak up. can't do it at work so got to be able to do it online.

the more you speak your mind, the easier it becomes. liberals have always had this privilege and it's about time we take some of this freedom to speak for ourselves. why do we have to self sensor perfectly acceptable thoughts while they run their idiotic mouths!?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 2:00 AM  

I think the lad was deprived of something as a child , bob k.

Blogger Sir Thermite May 23, 2016 2:05 AM  

@Bob K. Mando

So criticizing a person who's been behaving like crotchety mid-witted belligerent here lately, whom Matthew and Vox have called-out themselves several times for his behavior during the last week, is somehow suddenly an attack on you because you both share tenure? That's ridiculous, and out-of-place with the intellectual rigor that has made this blog and its commentary popular. If you want to paint me with the same brushstroke go ahead- I've only been here 4 or 5 years, previously under a different handle, and before that only knew Vox from WND. Hell, back then Vox was still a member of the SFWA and I don't think anyone had heard of Milo or Mike Cernovich and few knew of John C. Wright. Your attack on an ally because he's newer here does you discredit.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 2:24 AM  

68. Sir Thermite,
Lookie here sir, believe you me I know I can be an ass at times, and yes I have been rightly called on the carpet for it lately. To Vox and Matthew I sincerely apologize. As I said, you don't like my posts, scroll past'em. You bawlin', pissing and moaning about it wont stop me from saying what I want to say, Nor would I want to stop you from doing the same.
I have a welding job in the morning, so good night to all.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 2:29 AM  

65. lowercaseb May 23, 2016 1:53 AM
I hate you all...but I still have your back.
God bless you, sir.

Blogger freddy May 23, 2016 2:40 AM  

Suck ups, everyone. Hannity and Beck prove the point. I know what's coming. A Vox blaze burning against every disgusting autonomous Establishment paradigm.

Blogger Groot May 23, 2016 3:37 AM  

My wife, Mrs. Groot, always says my personality is that of a Golden Retriever, perpetually happy. Bark on, little dogs. Ha!

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 4:18 AM  

No, Groot, you are a tree. Dogs piss on ya, that is your purpose in the grand scheme of things. Good doggies.

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Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 4:34 AM  

Thank you Vanessa, will support your cause, and will spread the word so others to do so.
Bless you and the good work you are doing.

Blogger VD May 23, 2016 4:37 AM  

I have a pretty good idea I know who Nemesis is. That last post gave it away.

It's Andrew Spooner again. I recently muted him on Twitter.

Blogger Rusty Fife May 23, 2016 4:41 AM  

Groot wrote:My wife, Mrs. Groot, always says my personality is that of a Golden Retriever, perpetually happy.

That's not a compliment when it's coming from your woman.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 4:45 AM  

Vox, I owe you a big time apology.
My folks raised me better than to go into someone's house and show your ass.
I mean this sincerely, sir.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 5:03 AM  

"That's not a compliment when it's coming from your woman."
Shhh. Let it think that , Rusty.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 5:07 AM  

"It's Andrew Spooner again."
Obviously he did not get the memo , amirite ?

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 23, 2016 6:40 AM  

@55. Automatthew of Clan Heaving Bosoms

In answer to your question, I was pretty sure it was Spooner.

He seemed to be revving down for the night and if everyone started making Spooner jokes he was going to start screaming again.

Blogger VD May 23, 2016 8:11 AM  

My folks raised me better than to go into someone's house and show your ass.
I mean this sincerely, sir.


It happens. As a general rule, if you've commented more than five times on a single post, there is a good chance you should rethink what you're doing.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 23, 2016 8:36 AM  

I thank you for being most gracious with me, sir.
I will do my best to behave, It is kinda hard sometimes.
May God bless you and yours, Vox.

Anonymous Eduardo May 23, 2016 9:05 AM  

Your husband sucks...

Absolutely agree that people have no physical obligation to be nice to you, it is one of those tough things in life when you are not the most amazing person in the world

But her husband sucks u____u what a coward... He should have defended her honor with a duel in Tetris...

Blogger Were-Puppy May 23, 2016 10:38 AM  

@63 weka

So we have to win. So our children are protected. And if that means I'm allied with Roosh and Cernovich and Milo, not a great deal. I'd shout any of them a beer.
---

That's a good point we sometimes forget.

Blogger Lovekraft May 23, 2016 10:48 AM  

Spooner aka Nemesis was good for a laugh. Here the trolls become converts, or walk away with their tails between their legs.

We are of much stouter stuff than to be disconcerted by minor insults. The prize is the big show.

Blogger clk May 23, 2016 11:46 AM  

Vd says "Take on one of us, and you can be pretty sure that at the very least, the others will at least fire a symbolic round or two in your direction."

I think there's a balance here to be appreciated between support and simply a love for any opportunity fire a few rounds at what might be deserving targets .. the ilk are a contentious bunch and it takes little prodding to get them to jump in fire a few rounds...

In the end.. if you want to shoot pheasant, you have to go to the right field and sometimes you need a dog to flush them up. I don't mean to imply you are a bird dog -- although you seem very happy flushing out game :)

Anonymous Eduardo May 23, 2016 12:00 PM  

I knew that hunter classic game in Nintendo was Vox. He even had a dog ;-) and a zapper, we all know Vox hunts things with laser.... Or light detecting apparatuses.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2016 3:27 PM  

@8

"there are a lot of good people in the American news media, it was an isolated incident that hopefully people learned from"

Craig....You're posting while drunk again.

Blogger Groot May 23, 2016 5:06 PM  

@73. jOHN MOSBY:
"No, Groot, you are a tree. Dogs piss on ya, that is your purpose in the grand scheme of things. Good doggies."

I tried doing a riff on this a while back, but no one got it. So you, jM, surprisingly, get a point for having a couple of neurons firing.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 24, 2016 2:37 PM  

i dunno about you boys but im gonna git hahd.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY May 25, 2016 1:51 AM  

90. Groot
Thanks, you help to keep me on my toes, and I like that.
See, we can get along .

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